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Huge Trades Happening Early | 584 · The 3-0 Take

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Go back and look at how Red Sox fans felt about Nomar Garcia
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Para walking out the door in 2004, and then look at how 2004
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ended. Sometimes you just have to make
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moves that make other things, other facets of your lineup, of
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your roster work better, even though maybe sending a single
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guy out on paper doesn't seem like the right move.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the three OT where we talk all
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things Major League Baseball. Here's Kyle Corwin and Nader
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Reyes. It all starts.
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Right now. Welcome back to the Three Take
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presented by Chinook Cedry. This is episode 584.
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I'll be your host, Kyle Cord. I'm here with my Co host Nate
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Reyes. What are you doing, Casey?
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How are we? OK, I'm good.
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I'm good. I was about to flip it to Josh.
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I was I. Mean you always hit with the the
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Nate. I was waiting.
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For Nate, you didn't hit it. So honestly, did I not?
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You didn't. Oh, that's all me.
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Oh my gosh, 45 seconds and like that's all for you to drop that
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thing. I'll be your host, Kyle Cord.
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I'm here with my Co host Nate Reyes.
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Nate. Casey, how are we?
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Sip some tea, man. Let's get some reset.
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We got some. What do we got in there?
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That's all me we're fighting. Got some chamomile?
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Little little immune boost trying to make it the holidays,
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man. Yeah, that's well, aren't we
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all? Aren't we all?
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You wanted to talk holiday. You wanted to talk Thanksgiving
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here real quick. You something about egg noodles
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and and Turkey. Yeah, I mean, look, let's just
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let's just address the the giant gorilla in the room here.
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Josh, what are we talking? About Josh in the corner.
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He he addressed this before we got on, saying that he just
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became aware that not all, not all households make noodles for
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Thanksgiving. Thought it was a thought it was
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a Thanksgiving staple. It's honestly kind of wild to
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assume that everybody has noodles for Thanksgiving to
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begin with, much less homemade noodles.
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So everybody where I grew up with did.
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Right, hence the wild to think that everyone else has noodles.
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Majority of your. So also recently found.
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Ideas with your circles, so I'm not surprised by this.
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I did clear up, it was like 10 years ago when I found that out,
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but. That's still.
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That's a still a long a large portion of my life that I just
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assumed that everybody ate the same thing on Thanksgiving.
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Not true. What's not served?
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So like if, because, if egg noodles are getting made, we got
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to, let's face it, something's going to the by the wayside
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here. So what?
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Well, I don't know what you have, so take us through your.
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Take us through your. Well, I mean.
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If we're going to, we're going to go through like a standard,
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you know, run-of-the-mill everyday American Thanksgiving
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meal. We, you know, you got your
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Turkey, you got your mashed potatoes, you got your stuffing,
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by the way, it's stuffing. I don't.
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Yeah, my in laws call it dressing crazy.
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That doesn't make any sense. That goes on salad.
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Yeah, yeah, dressing is for salad.
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What else we got? We we got mashed potatoes
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already. Sometimes there's the the gravy,
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which is a must for me. Sometimes there's the cranberry
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sauce. Some people.
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Oh, Cranberry, Hold on. What?
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Back up sometimes. Yeah, all.
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We're going to run through all of these carbs and not have
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gravy. I don't know, man, I don't know.
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Some people aren't gravy people, even when.
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It's there. It's on the menu though.
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I mean, are you? Is cranberry getting made?
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Yeah, yeah, cranberry sauce. I like here.
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Here's a question that can. Or is it like?
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AI don't eat it. Someone's out, out and back.
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I told you, listen, if gravy doesn't go well with it, it
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doesn't go on my Thanksgiving plate.
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There's gravy on. Everything that's now that's a
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take. I like that.
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I like that take. I'm out on that I.
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Actually think I hear. Anything that doesn't go out on
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that and once you're finished the the rolls, scoop up the rest
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of the gravy to clean plate. Bingo.
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I'm I've got two things. Number one, Mama Ray, is if I'm
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with her, Mac and cheese is going on that plate, which means
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no gravy on Mac and cheese. That's fair.
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But I, I respect technically we're making noodles, JB, look
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at that. Look at that.
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So. Well, the noodles.
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Are made. You're not making.
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You're not making the Mac and cheese and noodles you're you're
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consuming. You're taking part in the noodle
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experience. Well, I don't think he's making
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the egg noodle so so we've. Never had that's.
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What he said he he said you're making them from scratch.
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Egg. Noodles.
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My, my dad makes them, yeah. Rolls them out from scratch.
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But not everybody does that. They're still having the
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noodles, but they're not making them, right?
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Well, somebody does. Obviously you buy the Amish bag,
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you know what I mean? No, but so so we've never had
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the Mac and cheese, but I fully support Mac and cheese.
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Mac and cheese belongs with every holiday, I think.
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I think yes. I support that.
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I think if. You put the crumbs on the top or
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something to make it a little extra. 100% What's that?
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What do you do? What?
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I was like, did you put the crumbs on the top or whatever to
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make it a little? Extra She likes to bake it.
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Mama Rays likes to bake it. I'm I'm not a baked Mac and
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cheese guy. I like it creamy fresh out the
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pot. I don't need the bake.
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I don't it gets all starchy and clumpy.
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It's not for me. Where were we at the oh, the
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other thing was I had a friends giving last week and kind of a
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little potluck situation where each responsible for bringing
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something I made incredible green bean casserole.
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Like incredible. Like started like bacon.
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There's bacon chunks in there. It was unbelievable.
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Moving on. The other thing was we were in
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charge of rolls. So I'm running through the
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grocery store pages at work. I'm like, I'll find something.
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I'll find something. Where do you find rolls?
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Not near the bakery? Like all right, maybe they're
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frozen. Maybe they're like frozen rolls.
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If. You they're, they're obviously
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in the bread aisle. What?
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They weren't, they weren't, They weren't, They weren't, they
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weren't. So I'm going through the frozen
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section and you bet your bottom dollar I grabbed them Texas
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Roadhouse Rolls. OK.
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And it was the life of the party.
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Everyone was excited about it. Everyone talks about that was
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their favorite thing. My guy spent 12 hours working on
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a Turkey. I showed up with Texas Roadhouse
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Rolls and stole the trophy. That's not right.
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Yeah, that seems illegal. Yeah, it's fine.
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It's fine. So I'll say so.
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Last thing I'll say, though, there is no, how did you word
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it, the, the Great American Thanksgiving meal.
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That's what I found out in this process.
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It depends on what region you're in.
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So what's on that menu? There is not Turkey and mashed
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potatoes and stuffing. That's that's your staple.
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Everything else can be anything. That's sweet potatoes, probably
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right. They're probably in there too.
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I don't know. I think that's the biggest lie.
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Are they different from? Yams, do we know?
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I think it's the same thing. I don't eat them so I don't
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really know. No gravy on yams.
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No, I'm not. You can't.
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Can't do it. That's the biggest myth, biggest
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lie I think we're living under in America is that there's like
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this standard Thanksgiving. I I talked to 10 people.
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I'm getting 10 different plates. Yeah, it doesn't.
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It doesn't add up, doesn't compute.
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Like you all are apparently my macaroni and cheese people for
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Thanksgiving. I'm not.
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Do I wish it was there? Yes.
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But I don't. I don't necessarily.
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It's not always there. It is there many times, but is
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it there all the time? No.
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Needs. Yeah, I've, I've never had it on
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on the menu. I just support it.
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I think that would be a great. Idea.
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It's got to be like the Velveeta kind too.
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It's got to be like super unhealthy, like, you know what I
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mean, fake cheese type stuff. Yeah.
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Anyway, happy Thanksgiving folks.
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Happy Thanksgiving. Yeah, hence why we're getting an
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episode to you a day early. Give you folks some something to
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to enjoy, to consume on in your travels.
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Or maybe you're already where you're getting to and maybe
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you're just trying to get away from the in laws and need some
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downtime out on the back porch and you want to throw the pot
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on. Either way, welcome.
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If you're new here, welcome. We're going to talk some
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baseball, I think. I think that's what we'll do
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here tonight. But before we talk, before we
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talk current events, as a reminder, we're we're trying to
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incorporate some some new things, just some things to get
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the ball rolling, some more engaging content when things get
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dry as they do in the offseason. And some people's turkeys on
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Thursday. True, true.
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So we're going to we're going to read off some Facebook comments
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because what I mean, what more entertaining thing could you do?
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Then read Facebook comments to the 4000 people that chimed in
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on my post yesterday of what's a baseball hill you'll die on?
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And the reason I went with the what's a what's a baseball hill
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you'll die on? It's a nice flex by the way.
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Well, it's less of a flex and more, more of a, more of a shout
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out to the people that are sharing their, their strong
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stances because there were some, I tell you what.
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But the reason I, the reason I posted that prompt was it was in
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response to Nate and I, we did our, did a little, little
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content over the weekend and we, I think I've already actually
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put the video out, but we did some blind rankings of some
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stadiums and we got to Nate was throwing some, some parks at me
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and I was having to rank them blindly, of course, as, as blind
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rankings go. And he gets to Yankee Stadium
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and he's like, well, let's watch the bias at work here.
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And I, I had to, I had to pause. I said, let's, let's call a
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spade a spade here. Yankee Stadium, as it were.
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The current day Yankee Stadium is just the ballpark.
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There's nothing special about Yankee Stadium.
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And I said that's a hill I'll die on.
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And I stand by that. This isn't Yankee Stadium of
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old. They should have renamed Yankee
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the new Yankee Stadium to something else.
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Because you know what? It's not Yankee Stadium.
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So. What's he going to?
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Call it not Yankee Stadium. Anyway, what I said or, or my,
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my thought in, in putting that prompt on Facebook because I
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wanted to get maybe some, some thoughts from the listeners, the
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followers on social about what, what's the hell they'll die on.
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So I, I got a few there's, I mean, there's a bajillion of
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them, some of them rather literal.
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There was a, a handful of folks who said they would die on
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towels hill. If you know, you know.
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If you don't, look it up. Respect.
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But there were some that I wanted to get your thoughts on
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because controversy. Why not?
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All right, Steven says the universal DH was the right
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choice. There, I said it.
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Now that we've had the universal DH for the time that we've had
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it, do we all agree, dude? I mean, can we not, can we not
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look at how the game has has evolved with the universal DH?
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And can, can we, can we just agree that nobody wanted to
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watch a a pitcher swing a wet newspaper?
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Can we all agree? Yeah, 96% agree on that.
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So you say, of course, as I'm explaining it, and.
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Good grade. I mean, I guess, but is it a
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perfect score? Is it as confident as a?
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Of course, no. What's the, what's the missing
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4%? What do you attribute that to?
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The, you know, missing element of, of double switches and
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punting because bunting is basically just disappeared in
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general. We at least we got some bunting
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back then. You know, I think I did enjoy a
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little bit of, of seeing one team be very comfortable the
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whole year doing one thing and then when they get to the World
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Series, they have to do something slightly different.
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I think there's just a little wrinkle I'm I'm the older I get,
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the more chaos I enjoy. So maybe that's maybe that's an
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aspect of it that I'm missing. That's my 4% that doesn't make
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up a ton. I'll stand on that hill, but
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right when I'm about to die I'll probably Mosey on down and find
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a good a different spot. Wesley says the plural of RBI is
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RBI. Can we let's revisit the
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conversation of RBI. What's the what's the correct?
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I mean, there's only one. What's the correct pronunciation
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of runs batted in as as an acronym?
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RBISRBIS. Because regardless how you say
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it, RBIRBIS, you're technically wrong both ways.
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That's a hill I'll die on. Why are you tracking?
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There's a way to say it and there's a way not to say it, but
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they're both wrong technically. If you want to get real
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technical, if you want to get in the weeds, which I know you love
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to get in the weeds, name technically and shout out to the
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people that that agree that that chime in with this reply.
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Colon it's. R Rs tiny S yes, it's R capital
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R lower case S A/B I Fair enough.
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Because if you say RBIs like I. I've got it, I've got it.
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That's wrong. I've got a good hill to die on
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when we're done with this. By the way, I don't think
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anyone's going to take it. Hope not. 1000 comments.
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Maybe somebody did. Maybe.
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I didn't read, maybe somebody what else we got here?
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There's another one I liked. Michael said striking out the
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side means striking out all three and only three batters in
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an inning. You cannot quote strike out the
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side while also walking two and giving up two hits and three
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runs. 100% support that. Yeah, me too.
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It has to be the entire side. Yeah, I'll be on that hill.
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I'll die. Yeah, you can't walk somebody
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and strike out three and strike out the side.
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Bury me there. We well then we have to have a
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we have to have a serious conversation because there are
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actual professional broadcasters that cover our great game that
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will take it to break saying and so and so has struck out the
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side. Meanwhile we saw 7 batters.
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How does that work? This used to be a great country.
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Bad. I agree, broadcasting degrees
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need to be a little little more minute.
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Little, little selective, more selective.
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Jay says unique field design is an underappreciated part of
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baseball's appeal. Yeah, I just think that's a
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layup. I don't think that that's you're
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screaming at too many people. I mean, I guess like, I get that
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there's like a lot of football and basketball people that are
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like, how is it that you have, you know, different dimensions
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everywhere you go? That's the beauty of it.
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That's that's why are sports better than yours, cookie
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cutter. Get out of my face.
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You said it. Yeah, you said it.
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What's your what's your hill that you're dying on?
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That it? Yeah.
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I want to hear yours. My Hill is our beautiful game is
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the only one where we can throw grammar and the English language
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out the window when someone like a broadcaster is speaking to a
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batter in a former at bat who flied out to center field.
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If I told someone I flied to Virginia for Thanksgiving, they
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would look at me very strangely. But somehow we're allowed to let
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this slide in in our game. And I'm kind of cool with it, to
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be honest with you. It's very weird.
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It's a great thing. It's not flu, it's flied.
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I flied out. I mean, I've heard both, but
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I'm. I'm with you.
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I I, yeah, I hear it's. How is it that we let that
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happen? I don't know, but I'll, I'm
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going to. I want to make sure it keeps
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making its way through. You always hear like baseball as
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a smart person sport, the reality of it is, is, yeah, like
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it, you got to be smart to get it.
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But like, we're at the end of the day, a lot of us are just
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kind of dumb and we just enjoy watching guys hit, hit balls
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with sticks, you know that. I mean, that's we're simple
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creatures, us baseball fans. Simple creatures.
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Really, truly. There's a microphone in front of
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me of all people. So that's that should tell.
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You all you need to know. By the way, I saw I saw who who,
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who TF is Nate Reyes the other day?
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And one of the comments. Love those.
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Yeah, love them. I don't know man, but my
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slogan's on a hat, so suck it. All right, man, you don't need
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to relax. You don't need to flex on them
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at hard. All right?
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All right, let's take it easy. Speaking of taking it easy, the
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Mets did not take it easy into the Thanksgiving holiday break.
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They said let's make a splash. They went out and traded Brandon
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Nimmo and the Rangers swapped Marcus Simeon.
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Let's talk about it. Kind of a is.
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Is it fair to call this a head scratcher?
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Yeah, Shocking, at the very least.
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At the very least shocking. But can we do we take a step
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further and call it a little bit of a head scratcher?
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Yes. I, I mean, if you chop it up,
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depending upon which angle you try to go into it with, I, I
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guess it makes sense like the Mets are trying to offload that
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money. Because I think you, you and I
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were both shocked when we refreshed ourselves on what's on
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what that contract was. I was shocked at the age of
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Brandon Newman. I'm shocked at the age of a lot
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of guys in baseball these days, man.
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It's it's real sad. Like Simeons?
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Guys been doing it for a decade. Simeons what, like 3535?
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He's been in the league. I think I saw today 14 years.
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13. How?
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When? 13 insane like I.
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Came up in 2013 at 22 years old. Who are we?
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What is what is time? But.
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I got to say, I mean, keeping it, keeping a big, big picture
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here off the top. I'd I like Brandon Nimmo on a
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Rangers uniform. I'm not a huge fan of that.
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You want to talk about a hill to die on?
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The one thing I cannot stand is jersey swaps before a guy has
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even touched the diamonds with the uniform.
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I can't stand it. Like, let me let me see a guy in
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the threads come opening day, OK?
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I don't. I don't want to see some shoddy
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Photoshop work of the same headshot he took a year ago with
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a new hat. And I mean it works.
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But it gives people going. It just give me something to
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look forward to. Anyway, I saw one with with
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Nimmo in the Texas threads and I got to say he he looks like he
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was meant to be a Texas Ranger. He really does.
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Wave the no trade clause for it. Yeah, what, like can we talk
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about that? Why do why do we think that was?
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Because I, I saw the, I think he was quoted saying something
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along the lines of if he feels like he could win a World Series
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with the Rangers. And I can't disagree.
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I feel like even even though Texas isn't spending as much
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money as the Mets, we all know this, We know what the situation
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is like in Queens and it's not a pretty one.
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And although they've had their moments, they've had their runs,
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it's just I feel like for Brandon Nimmo, it's got to be a
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breath of fresh air to get out of there and go try try your
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luck in another market with another team.
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Yeah, I think so too. I mean, we're talking about two
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opposite ends of the spectrum as well.
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If you're talking, if you're talking Dallas, Fort Worth and
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Queens. Yeah.
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Yeah, maybe. Maybe he wants some land.
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Who knows? Yeah, I don't know, man.
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And I think it's just there's probably this level of toxicity
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that's there. Taxes, New York versus Texas.
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That's got to be a factor. Hello.
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He's got some money back there. I don't know, man.
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I kind of seems to me like the Mets are just like trying to
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really shake things up. I kept hearing about like how
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how poorly they ranked defensively last year and pretty
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much everywhere on the field minus Lindor was like, I think
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and maybe Alvarez behind the dish was like, you know, below
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average. The most Sprint speed has been
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on the decline the most. Sprint speed has been on the
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decline his his defense has been on decline.
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He's had like pretty significant weird injuries and it's not
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like, oh, you know, I've, I've pulled my hammy.
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It's been like weird neck and back stuff.
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That's like, I know what that's like.
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I get out of bed everyday and I have weird neck and back stuff
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and I know that's a struggle. I I think it's kind of just like
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this weird wash of a trade. It's rare that we see one-on-one
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for one Major League talent trades like not talent, but
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Major League players like established vets.
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I wish there was more of those to be honest with you like I do.
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I like a good fashion fantasy style.
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Trade one for one. None of this like 16 prospects
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for a Major League ready guy. Like just give me a classic one
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for 1/2 for two kind of deal. That's the to me, that's good
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old school ball. Yeah, yeah.
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Shake up. I mean, you know, they just,
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they just let Jonah Heim walk and Adolis Garcia Garcia.
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And it's like there's obviously a shake up for Texas.
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There's obviously the I think this is like the first of more
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moves to come for both teams. Like the I think the Mets are
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going to do something and it kind of brings them, I don't
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know. Does this like, open up the Kyle
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Tucker conversation more Like, it's interesting, Casey.
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Hear me out. Speaking of things, I'm a big
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fan of big fan of David's I I really wish front offices would
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would take this stance more, David Stearns was quoted as
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saying. Well, I actually don't have the
24:29
exact quote. I saw it today.
24:30
It was something to the effect of it would be foolish to run
24:34
back the same group next to try to run it back next year.
24:37
And I'm like, I wish more teams would understand that instead.
24:41
Of which more teams would just say that.
24:43
Yes, instead of taking the same like we believe in our guys and
24:47
they're like, yes, I'm all for giving your clubhouse a vote of
24:50
confidence, but like when you when it continues to prove
24:54
overtime and time again that it's just not working with that.
24:58
You can have all the talent in the world, but if it doesn't
25:00
mesh well, if it doesn't blend well, if the guys just don't
25:04
operate as a as a functioning unit, then you have to shake
25:08
things up. And like you said, like I was
25:10
saying, I just wish more teams would come out and say that and
25:14
and do what they need to do to shake things up.
25:16
And I know that that's that doesn't always sit well with fan
25:18
bases when they're like, how could you get rid of player XYZ?
25:22
Like are you seeing? Are you realizing what you're
25:24
sending out the door? It's like, sometimes that's what
25:27
you have to do. I, I use this example a lot, but
25:30
like, do you think like go back and look at how Red Sox fans
25:34
felt about no more Garcia Para walking out the door in 2004 and
25:37
then look at how 2004 ended? Sometimes you just have to make
25:41
moves that make other things, other facets of your lineup, of
25:45
your roster work better, even though maybe sending a single
25:49
guy out on paper doesn't seem like the right move.
25:52
So I'm all for, I'm all for the Mets taking that stance.
25:56
I, you know, I've, I've, I've said my piece on the Mets
25:58
before, but I, I'm a, I'm a big fan of, of that stance.
26:02
We talk about like, I, I like when teams take care of up the
26:07
middle, right? So like fluky injury from
26:10
Alvarez behind the dish last year.
26:12
Got to assume he's going to play more games and be more impactful
26:14
this year. You know, obviously Frankie
26:17
Lindor's, you know, top five shortstop, like that's taken
26:19
care of. And now you have, you know,
26:22
Marcus Simeon who plays all the time, literally every day.
26:27
I think he, you know, one, one or two IO stints last year, but
26:31
other than that, like played every day.
26:33
He just doesn't take time off. I get that he's 35.
26:36
I get that like offensively he's declined, but like if you are
26:41
going to follow up with a with a Kyle Tucker signing or maybe a
26:46
bringing Pete back or going and get other, you know, going to
26:50
get other bats. Not to mention people aren't
26:54
remembering that Juan Soto still there.
26:56
Like there's still plenty of juice in that lineup.
27:00
And like, why not try to figure out something that has been the
27:03
issue, which is defense? Like, let's just go solve that.
27:07
And I think it's more moves to come.
27:09
And for the Rangers, I it's one of those that I think could
27:21
probably look really bad by the end of it.
27:24
I like Brandon Nimmo. I like what he brings to, you
27:26
know, to the lineup now. But like, it's one of those
27:30
things. But by the end of this thing
27:31
when it's 20292030 and it's like you're playing 7080 games a year
27:39
and we're having issues and you know, it's it's below average
27:44
left field defense. It's like, you know, I don't
27:47
know, I don't know. They're like weird team.
27:50
I can't figure the Rangers out. Yeah, but if you randomly won 90
27:54
games in one World Series and then like all every other year
27:57
around that 10 year range, you've been like cheeks like I
28:01
don't. What is that?
28:03
Who are they? If you take the optimistic
28:05
route, though, it could be one of those deals that ends up on
28:08
the on the other side of it. Yeah, it even win, win maybe
28:13
sounds strong, but it's like. You could.
28:15
Win, win, win. We all win.
28:19
No, it could be one of those deals where you look at it and
28:22
go, maybe it wasn't a as as much of A slam dunk win win, but it
28:27
it worked out for both teams that like it wasn't like the
28:31
you, you weren't getting perennial All Stars on on the
28:33
back back ends of the contracts, but you got serviceable guys who
28:38
ended up posting that. Again, that's if you take the
28:40
optimistic route. If Nimmo is able to string
28:43
together couples a few seasons where he can post.
28:46
But yeah, I, like I said, kind of kind of shocked me,
28:52
especially this early, but. These are the tough thing that
28:56
like if Simeon doesn't show up and do his thing like that and
28:59
if if he has the same offensive year he had last year.
29:02
I don't think that's going to happen.
29:03
I really don't. I think to your point you're
29:06
getting, you're, you're shoring up the, the middle of the field
29:08
a little bit. And the other thing too is
29:10
you're, you're recouping some of the some of next year's payroll
29:14
to go out and, and make more moves because like you said, I
29:18
don't think either team is is necessarily done.
29:21
And the Mets I think are netting like, what are they like 20?
29:29
What are they net like 25, give or take, 'cause I think I think
29:33
I saw that the Mets shipped in like another five.
29:39
Yeah, it's about about that the. Length of the rest of the
29:43
contract or just next year I think.
29:48
In total, in total, I think in total, yeah.
29:50
Yeah, I think it knocks like a million off each one each year
29:53
because it's just five. They sent 5 million over.
29:55
So it essentially just knocks a million off, which puts Nimmo
29:58
under 20 million. Yeah, so we'll see what they I
30:03
mean the the Mets have proven they're not really all that
30:05
concerned about trying to save a penny here there as much
30:09
recently, but we'll see what happens but it.
30:12
Can't be there a move of the offseason.
30:14
That's all I'm going to. Say no and I don't think it will
30:16
be. Just for the record, on Nimmo
30:18
151 games at least the last four years.
30:21
So those injuries are kind of there's, there's some things
30:25
that that I've heard are nagging, but he's still playing.
30:28
Yeah, he plays through it, which almost makes you wonder like is
30:30
it, is that worse? Like are would I rather you take
30:33
a couple weeks off so you can get back to healthy like?
30:35
There are certain guys where. You said Sprint speed is going
30:38
down, these defenses going down like that stuff falling to me,
30:42
if that is the aspect of your game, that's scary.
30:47
I know he had like a random like 30 home run year.
30:51
This is last year was the year before.
30:55
Now this last year was his top 25.
30:58
That was his career high. 25. This like this year 2025.
31:04
This isn't a slight towards Nivo, this is just a general
31:07
comment, but there are certain guys in the league.
31:10
General comment there's certain guys in the league where even
31:15
you would you would take them over anybody else, even 80% is
31:20
Brandon Nimmo the kind of guy where he's going to get moving
31:23
forward, He's going to give you the output that would still be
31:26
more serviceable than the guy behind him on the on the depth
31:30
chart. If if it means him plain like, I
31:35
mean, he's he's been he's been pretty solid for the Mets.
31:40
But if these things continue to nag, continue to linger, it's
31:45
only going to get worse. He's not getting any younger,
31:47
so. Yeah.
31:49
We shall see. We also, we also shall see what
31:56
moves the Red Sox have left in the chamber after this Sonny,
32:02
this trade for Sonny Gray. There's there's people, I'm not
32:05
going to say who there's people out there that think that he
32:09
would be fine as a #2 they may even be on this stream.
32:14
It's it's hard to say. I, I don't know, I don't like
32:16
naming names, but just know that there is someone out there or
32:20
multiple people out there that think that he would be a fun or
32:22
two. I disagree because, you know, as
32:27
much as I love a particular team in Pittsburgh Pirates, I, I
32:32
think there's different standards when it comes to a
32:36
team like the Boston Red Sox and a team like the Pirates,
32:39
Pirates. It's, you were talking about a
32:42
#2 in Boston. A #2 in Boston is a number one
32:47
in Pittsburgh. You know, forget Paul Skeens.
32:50
I'm just saying, yeah, I was just saying, come on, relax,
32:52
relax, relax. Bad example.
32:55
Relax just on paper, traditionally, I mean, but
33:00
let's, who are we kidding, Skeens?
33:02
Skeens isn't going to be there in how many years?
33:04
So this this example will hold up in like 5 years.
33:11
I, I think he is better positioned on the back half of
33:16
that rotation. I, I think optimistically, I
33:19
would like to think that the Red Sox still have a move yet to
33:21
make. There are, there are plenty or I
33:25
don't know if plenty is the right word, but there are
33:28
multiple free agent arms out there worth pursuing.
33:31
I know they, they've continued to express interest in a guy
33:34
like Joe Ryan. They were interested in that at
33:37
the deadline. Who's who's really to say what,
33:40
what that market looks like now, now that we are now that we're
33:44
in the offseason. I know I've heard Framber
33:47
Valdez's name thrown out there, which after what we learned this
33:51
year, not interested. But All in all though, I like
33:57
the move as, as rotation depth. This is a guy that can make
34:02
meaningful, impactful starts for you moving forward.
34:07
And frankly, I don't, I don't think you had to give up all
34:12
that much. And especially since the
34:13
Cardinals are kicking back. What was it 20 million to, to
34:18
really offset this? You're not bringing on the full
34:20
4040 million. So I, I like the move.
34:28
The only the only thing I will say Nate and.
34:30
What's your hesitation get get into that?
34:32
You can speak to this is what Sonny Gray can do in a in a
34:39
bigger market. That's the only thing that I'm
34:41
I'm I'm hesitant slash leery about.
34:44
Well, maybe I'll help you out a little bit because the I think
34:49
there was a philosophy issue in New York.
34:52
I know that there is obviously the added pressure of being in
34:56
that market, but like I there was also that some pictures just
35:00
don't buy into the philosophy and they have a very specific
35:04
pitching philosophy that didn't really seem to gel that well.
35:11
And he openly talked about like, I don't want to throw my change
35:14
up that often. And then you know what I mean?
35:16
Like there was, there was comments made.
35:19
So to me, I, I, I kind of, I like the move.
35:26
Like I, I'm worried about the move.
35:28
I guess that's what I should say.
35:29
Like as a Yankee fan, the move makes me worried.
35:33
Ridiculous. The move makes me worried.
35:36
Stop it, stop it. The move makes me worried.
35:40
So I But I think that should tell you all that you need to
35:45
know because the reality is like, he has kind of settled
35:49
into who he is. He's figured out who he is and
35:53
put up some good numbers. Is he a true 2?
35:57
I don't know. It's hard to say but it's a good
36:01
move. Cherry picking.
36:07
It's ridiculous. I need to figure out and make
36:09
these freaking buttons JB help me.
36:15
Kyle, can I ask you this? Do the Red Sox still have Abreu,
36:18
Duran, Anthony Rafaela, Justinson, Garcia?
36:21
I mean, there's no moves to make.
36:23
They've got 5 outfielders who could be starters in this
36:26
league. I'm hoping and praying and it's
36:29
nothing against William Brayu, but for some reason I just
36:34
haven't been able to like really get emotionally attached there.
36:37
Like I, I'm a, I've, I've really grown into becoming a, a big
36:41
Duran guy, you know, even with his, even with his on field, off
36:49
the field things that he gets into at times.
36:54
He's got edge to him. I like it.
36:55
It yeah, well, sometimes maybe some would say it goes a little
36:58
too far, but you know, All in all, he's I think he I think
37:01
he'll mature, but I, I still think even as he gets older,
37:05
assuming his his speed is going to decline, I still think his
37:09
skill set is, is of value. And I just think, like you were
37:14
saying, Nate, his the edge that he brings.
37:16
He brings a little bit of attitude which I think every
37:20
team needs. And a little.
37:23
There's a little Pedroia to him. A little bit of a little bit of
37:27
dirt dog mentality to him. Yeah, and and I always love
37:31
that, but it's that would mean if he were to stay, which he he
37:37
apparently coming into the offseason, according to this,
37:41
that and the third outlets covering the most likely trade
37:44
candidates. Duran was on just about
37:47
everybody's top ten list, which I wasn't thrilled about
37:50
considering my city connect uni that I I picked up this this
37:55
summer was in fact a 16. But because of that, it means
38:01
that will you would have to be presumably the guy to go.
38:05
Yeah, I don't know, man. You guys, you got pieces.
38:10
It's just it just as a team that just hasn't pulled trigger when
38:16
everyone thought they would. So I'm interested to see how the
38:19
rest of the offseason goes. But I mean, if you throw in a,
38:26
you know, Mitch Keller or a maybe Dylan Cease, I don't know
38:33
if that's on the table. I don't know if that's in the
38:35
rumors. But if you throw one of those
38:36
guys in as your two and then Sonny Grace slides like, I'm
38:40
sure you'd be pretty thrilled with that rotation.
38:44
Can I Would would I be judged for saying that?
38:50
Would I take Dylan sees as a #2? Absolutely.
38:54
While also saying that Dylan sees a a Dylan sees acquisition
38:59
doesn't excite me as much as maybe it did.
39:03
I just I mean I. Don't have to go.
39:05
Yeah, and JB brings up a good point because, like, I don't see
39:07
the point of spending your, you know, free agent money on
39:13
pitching when you have all the pieces to just go make a move
39:18
and they've already made a move that did nothing to the pieces.
39:22
Like, I don't even know, no disrespect, but like, I don't
39:26
think those are impact players that got moved.
39:29
Dick Fitz ain't the ain't going to be, you know, hoisting up an
39:33
MVP trophy at any point. So like, no disrespect, but
39:37
like, I think I think there's moves that could be could be
39:41
made. You're going to piss me off with
39:43
that real soon. We're three episodes in the
39:45
offseason. You better you better buckle up,
39:47
buddy. The no, I'm with you.
39:52
I I had no issue parting ways with with old, old Dickey Fitz.
40:00
But the the other the other thing to keep in mind too is
40:02
offloading Devers contracts. Plays into this like you do like
40:08
I, I understand what you're saying about having the pieces,
40:09
but you also like again, the Boston Red Sox, you have no room
40:13
to sit here and cry poor. You have no reason to sit here
40:16
and play it conservatively. Now is the time to go.
40:19
You're going to get Roman Anthony back healthy again.
40:22
You're presumably going to sign, from what I'm hearing, you're
40:25
presumably going to bring either Bregman back or you're going to
40:28
bring a guy like Pete Alonso in. So and you've got Crochet
40:33
clicking on all cylinders. As we saw, you're already adding
40:37
to the rotation. Like now is the time to go.
40:39
Now is not the time to play it safe, to play it conservatively.
40:42
So I, I think you could, I, I still think there is, there are
40:46
moves to be made in both realms, both in the spending facet of
40:50
things as well as the, the trade route.
40:53
Yeah, that's just me. It's another no trade clause
40:57
that was waived too. Corrects.
41:00
Yep. Yep.
41:02
Which I mean, why? I mean, why wouldn't you want to
41:04
come to Boston, honestly? I mean just a, just a great
41:07
city, a great, a great town, really great place to play.
41:13
You're going to be. Chewing this guy alive by July.
41:20
No, honestly. And I and I say that given he's
41:28
a back half of the rotation guy, if we, if we, if if by July,
41:32
that is the role that he is in and has been serving for the
41:37
previous however many months of the season, then I'll look at it
41:41
accordingly. But if, if he comes in and he is
41:44
in fact the number 2 for whatever reason, then yeah, I'm
41:46
going to have some, I'm going to have some issues.
41:48
And it's not necessarily going to be his fault either.
41:51
Over 180 innings, 2 of his last three years.
41:54
Yeah, he eats, he eats him up, he eats him up, which which I
41:58
love. Some good old fashioned innings
42:03
eater. Let's Yeah.
42:08
Any other thoughts on that before we get into?
42:10
We've got some DMS here. Got to assume the Cardinals just
42:17
keep moving people. Another big one over at 3rd
42:21
that's got to go. Sure, they're not done.
42:26
A lot of teams calling on Donovan, too.
42:29
Yeah, Brendan Donovan's a dude. Just glad to see that Heim Bloom
42:40
and and his former club are on working terms so might be more.
42:48
There might be more there, who knows?
42:51
DMS Greg wants to know. Well, he qualifies it with long
42:59
time listener. Here.
43:01
Thank you, Greg. Greg asks.
43:02
Do the Braves return to prominence next season?
43:08
I'm more in the camp that last year was a little fluky.
43:15
Lot of injuries, lot of bad luck.
43:17
I mean, saw Spencer Strider just kind of implode almost.
43:22
You got to wonder if he like fully regained his strength and
43:26
health. And so a full offseason with him
43:29
and, you know, just kind of letting some guys come back and
43:31
do his thing. There's there's pressure.
43:34
I'm going to say there's more pressure on an Austin Riley
43:38
Amatio that they need to, you know, start becoming who they
43:41
were paid and brought in to be. You've been.
43:44
Preaching that for I feel like the last two years at least like
43:48
Austin Riley, you got to. That's kind of baffling to me.
43:55
It's very odd. They got the NL rookie of the
43:57
year though, you know, so a little something there.
44:01
Maybe they move on from Ozzy Alby's curious to see what
44:05
happens, you know, if maybe filling in the DH role or do
44:09
they, you know, Azure kind of kind of just like blockades the
44:14
DH and so maybe they utilize this to allow some more
44:19
flexibility with their lineup day-to-day.
44:21
And I don't know, I I thought last year was a fluke.
44:26
I don't think they're that I'm not going to sit here and sit
44:29
here and come back and win 90 plus games.
44:32
I don't know, but I don't think they're that on the fence answer
44:41
the. Lineups.
44:41
The lineups still there though. I am still there.
44:45
You still have A and you got Sean Murphy, MVP candidate.
44:49
Yeah, I think they're, I think the Sean Murphy thing is done.
44:53
He's got to be right. Hold on, roll out of bed who?
44:56
Acuna. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
45:00
Go get a shortstop. Like, dear Lord, what?
45:04
Get that? Done.
45:05
I I still stand by. I might take class.
45:07
Offseason, the will or was it I? Time is a joke to me right now.
45:12
Was it last offseason that I made the Willy Adamas
45:15
prediction? Was this his first year in San
45:17
Fran? Yeah.
45:18
I thought that would have been a great fit.
45:20
Yeah, go get a go get a freaking shortstop.
45:22
Stop messing around. You wouldn't have had to break
45:26
the bank for that comparatively to other shortstops trying to
45:29
leak like that. I just felt that would have
45:30
been. A yeah, Anthony Volpe's up for
45:32
sale if you're interested. I'm good.
45:38
Any who's next on the next on the list?
45:40
Take these buttons away from you, do you?
45:42
Disagree. No.
45:45
Moving on. Yeah, that's what that's what I
45:50
thought. You've, I don't think you've
45:53
once defended Anthony Volpe, can't.
45:56
Good kid, good kid. Great.
45:58
Kid, I'm sure, I'm sure. Big Yankee fan grown up, in case
46:03
you didn't know. Didn't know that I.
46:05
Know that it was crazy. Nobody ever talks about it.
46:08
I wish they would, that it'd be more of a story.
46:11
You actually met Derek Jeter growing up too?
46:13
Didn't know that either. It's insane.
46:16
Italian. What a small world.
46:18
Yeah, he was actually at the World Series parade back in 09.
46:23
It's insane, you know that? Yeah, it's insane.
46:27
Anyways, Murray wants to know. On the topic of food, going back
46:32
to food, Ray Murray our guy wants to know one non home
46:38
cooked last meal, drink and dessert.
46:42
Non home cooked. Yeah, because you, you, I mean,
46:46
it's a little dark, but it's nostalgia.
46:48
Wise you're like, I want mom's this.
46:50
Or well, dad's this right, right.
46:52
And it and it's a little dark, but the the premise is always,
46:54
well, you're on death row what you're like.
46:57
Let's, let's we. Can we'll slide that to the
46:59
side, let's just say. But he's specifically saying
47:03
drink and. Dessert.
47:05
So basically the full slate your meal, your drink, your dessert.
47:12
You go. I don't know if you're probably
47:14
quicker on the draw with this. Home.
47:15
Cook. If you say cookout, I'm going to
47:18
kick you in your shin. Well, dessert is in play here.
47:24
Also. We got to go to a a different
47:26
cookout. The one I we went right, The one
47:28
I took you to barely passes. As a cookout it was OK.
47:32
It's a a Northern Virginia cookout is not a cookout.
47:37
No disrespect. All right guy, let's lock in
47:40
here full non home cooked meal, correct?
47:44
Not meal out of the house dessert, an appetizer or.
47:51
It just says meal, drink, dessert.
47:54
I mean, you can throw an app in there if you want, but it sounds
47:56
like you're already having a hard enough time with the the.
47:58
Drink. The drink is is absolutely 100%
48:02
of Doctor Pepper I that could be the last thing I ever want to
48:07
taste in general. So Doctor Pepper for sure.
48:13
Desserts. I can make a note and I'll just
48:18
pass it along to the medical staff.
48:21
Should you go before me to just hook the IV up to a what are
48:27
those called? Like the fountain machines?
48:29
Yeah, crispy. With.
48:32
With DP Crispy Dr. Pepper, Dr. Pip drink, I mean, I look, I
48:39
mean food, I don't know. But dessert, I'm going to say
48:44
probably an unpopular choice here because I've had a lot of
48:51
good desserts, but if it can't be home cooked, I'd like to have
48:58
a chip, which those are unbelievable.
49:03
Those are I got to have one a day.
49:06
I got to have a chip. Which one a day, JB, you know
49:11
what that you know what that is? They talked about that in Ohio.
49:15
Ice cream cookie sandwich. Oh.
49:18
But it's got to be the one that's rolled with all the
49:21
chocolate chips all the way around.
49:23
Don't hit me with just plain vanilla.
49:27
I need chocolate chips and every bite.
49:33
My dessert I might go. By the way, oh.
49:36
Shout them out, man. They closed, they closed doors,
49:38
but you know, hey served an important role.
49:43
So they're like. You, you told me they're like
49:45
Dun Dun Dun Dun. That's maybe maybe we, we don't
49:51
even tell them. Maybe we just bring them on as
49:53
like an like a sponsor and people like.
49:56
Try to resurgent. Yeah, that's.
49:57
Sick you're sponsored by this ice cream shop and they're like,
50:01
yeah, don't look into it though, but they're they're really
50:03
they're so solid. Four O 4.
50:06
Error thing when you look up their.
50:09
Website. No, it's like I got to have a
50:11
chip, which told you. It's just, it's unbelievable.
50:15
They're insane, They're perfect. I think my dessert would I, if
50:20
I, if I put more time into this, I'd probably come up with a
50:24
different answer. But honestly, what's coming to
50:25
mind right now And I, I could, I could have one of these just
50:30
about every day is a piece of New York style cheesecake.
50:34
I was thinking of along those realms.
50:36
Do you have a specific place? Honestly, no, I'm not a I'm not
50:41
a cheesecake snob. As long as it's not like super
50:44
hardcore ricotta. I mean, I know.
50:48
Like seen the way they're made, they're insane.
50:50
I don't like to ask questions. It's.
50:52
So weird it. I was, I was liquid.
50:56
I I was older than I would like to admit when I found out that
51:02
cheesecake is actually made with cheese.
51:09
Well, cream cheese, right? There's like cream cheese is in
51:12
play there. I think a little, but not.
51:15
Yeah, I just didn't want to ask questions.
51:17
I mean, it's not like sharp cheddar or anything.
51:20
No, it was like that, that Andy Dwyer was that Andy Dwyer line
51:24
where he was like, I'm at this point, I don't know and I'm too
51:27
afraid. I'm just too afraid to ask.
51:29
It's kind of how it was with cheesecake, but.
51:30
You like a? Do you like any of the the
51:33
drizzle on top? Sure, yeah, fruit, Raspberry,
51:36
strawberry, chocolate or caramel, whatever.
51:39
Is your drink just, I'm assuming, just straight up
51:42
Coca-Cola? I'd probably go yeah with the
51:46
perfect carbonation, meaning a lot of carbonation.
51:51
Need a lot. Are you a Mexican Coke?
51:53
Guy. Oh yeah.
51:55
That cane sugar is. Yeah.
51:58
Unbeatable. My in laws, they, they, I mean,
52:02
I'm sure they enjoy them for themselves, but they hook it up.
52:05
They're like, hey, we got you your glass bottles downstairs in
52:08
the fridge. That's nice.
52:10
Because I just know. Just know that.
52:14
'D probably be my beverage. Either that or Cherry Coke, but
52:17
one of the two and then entree. Wise.
52:20
I mean, I don't. I've got too many, too many
52:22
answers. I could take you through my day
52:26
like if it was my last day, how I would map it out.
52:31
We've done this before, like many, many moons ago.
52:34
I feel like I remember, I remember having this
52:36
conversation of like what, what the breakfast, lunch and dinner
52:39
would be. It's kind of a kind of a, again,
52:45
if I spent more time thinking about it, I'd probably come up
52:47
with something different. But one that comes to mind is of
52:49
of Five Guys Bacon cheeseburger. Really.
52:53
Yeah. And like people are going to,
52:55
people probably think and do this.
52:56
You're like you're dying. You're right, you do.
52:59
You exactly, But the other thing too is like people probably hear
53:02
this and go, well, wouldn't you want to go to like the most
53:04
expensive steak? It's like, no, I, I'm a I'm a
53:07
simple creature. I like.
53:09
Steak over restaurant steak most of the time.
53:12
Right. I just, I'm I'm OK with a nice
53:16
quality bacon cheeseburger. I don't need a whole bunch of
53:19
fancy stuff. In fact, I would probably prefer
53:21
a bacon cheeseburger to a lot of your all's fancy foods.
53:24
You're not a big steak guy either, so that's well
53:26
documented. I will eat steak, but it's not
53:28
the first thing I'm getting when I sit down at a restaurant.
53:32
Unless I'm at a steakhouse then. Conversation's different.
53:37
I don't know why. I don't know what the slander is
53:39
for. I I have mistakes medium well I
53:41
don't I don't know what the issue is.
53:45
Sure. Do you or do you not believe me?
53:50
Do you want me to like go and take a picture?
53:52
Where it's like it's medium well and you're like secretly hoping
53:55
it comes out more well than medium.
53:57
No, I, I In fact, I hope it comes out more pink, I think
54:02
than medium. Well, but I don't want to take
54:04
the step of actually asking for medium.
54:07
You know what I mean? Why?
54:10
It's because then you run the risk of taking it pushing the
54:14
envelope to the next stage. And I'm, I'm just, I'm
54:17
comfortable with where. Are you ordering these steaks?
54:19
Is this like a Texas Roadhouse situation or is this like a?
54:23
Oh no dude, I'm 32 and I will proudly admit that I get the
54:27
chicken critters at Texas Roadhouse so fast.
54:33
So fast. I don't hate the play.
54:35
I don't hate the play. The.
54:36
Chicken critters it. I mean the name alone is top
54:39
shelf but then you throw in the honey mustard.
54:43
I'll be 60 getting chicken critters.
54:45
For this hack that you get the, you get the like the boneless
54:48
wings there and then you, you just have the rolls.
54:52
You just cut open the rolls, pop one of those boneless wings in.
54:56
Oh yeah. I didn't know they had boneless
54:59
wings there. Are you talking about the
55:00
chicken critters? How?
55:02
How big are the critters? Are they the long ones or the?
55:05
Tenders, yeah. No, I think these are actual
55:07
like. I don't know that I.
55:10
Boneless way I knew that. Which are just just Nuggets, by
55:13
the way people tossed in sauce. That's a hill I'll die on.
55:19
I'm look, I'll just run through it real quick.
55:21
New York bagel to start my day. Joe's Pizza for lunch.
55:34
I don't know, guy, dinner's tough.
55:37
Look, I'll be honest with you, if you're going to throw out
55:39
Five Guys, I'll throw Shake Shack out there as a as a
55:42
potential for me, the burger from Shake Shack is.
55:46
Which is crazy because like the trips that we've gone on, I
55:49
don't I'm outside of you taking me when we're when we're in
55:52
Denver for the Rockies Sox game way back when we haven't made a
55:56
stop at. Shake Shack, I don't think no,
55:57
We should. We should.
55:59
We need to change things up a little.
56:02
For the record, I, I, I will, I guess I'll officially submit my
56:06
Five Guys bacon cheeseburger. But I, like I said, I, I don't,
56:10
I don't feel great about that pick.
56:12
There's probably something I'm just completely missing.
56:14
Yeah, I agree. This is on the spot question.
56:16
We'll map that out a little more.
56:19
We'll dive into that. Is that it on the DMS?
56:22
That's how we. Yeah, just a couple.
56:23
I knew we were going to go long on that, so I didn't.
56:25
I didn't work because I knew we also had trivia to wrap things
56:29
up. Josh, what do you got for us on
56:30
the trivia? Josh in the corner.
56:33
Yeah, First off. Can we get it?
56:34
I I want to get a shirt made for Josh.
56:36
Josh in the corner that can be his on his on screen.
56:40
On the offline hang up in the background, yeah.
56:43
By the way, I will go cheeseburger or steak either.
56:47
Specifically where though? Do I have to?
56:50
I mean, the burger is, I don't know, I like, I could go for
56:55
Five Guys. I could go a lot of places.
56:59
Something like that though. Like a smash burger type, you
57:03
know what I'm saying? Something like that.
57:05
Yeah, Smash Burger way overrated, by the way.
57:07
No, no. It's, I mean, OK, so.
57:09
Not the constant. When I say when I say smash
57:11
burger. Like the place?
57:13
Yeah, way overrated. Yeah, yeah.
57:14
Not. The con I'm talking about, I'm
57:16
just talking about that. Type of cold style.
57:18
Five guys, is that style too, Really.
57:20
They're a little smashy. Yeah, they're smash, but we're
57:24
not doing the onions and all that.
57:25
Like I'm just saying, I want, you know, double cheeseburger,
57:28
bacon, all that. Or an Outback steak.
57:32
I like Outback dessert, BJ's snickerdoodle, Pizookie.
57:37
Ah, Pizookie, I want my baby. Back, baby, back, baby, back.
57:41
I want my baby. Back that's.
57:43
Chili. Oh yeah, that's Chili's.
57:45
Yeah. I was thinking blooming onion.
57:47
I was thinking Bloom. Which is Outback.
57:49
We're going, we're going. BJ's.
57:51
Yeah, BJ's for the dessert. Snickerdoodle.
57:55
Only seasonal, but that's the one.
57:57
That's the one. I love me a good.
58:00
And I'll have a root beer. Look at us covering all the
58:04
actually. No, I, I can in good faith go
58:07
with New York style cheesecake. I'm going to have to go.
58:09
I, I got to go cook out shake. I mean, that's like, that's just
58:13
my eating him up. It really was.
58:15
It just didn't feel like me. I'm like New York style.
58:17
I mean, I love it, but I come on, that's not going to be my
58:21
last dessert. Who am I kidding anyways?
58:23
What are you adding in? What do you mean?
58:27
What do you choose the toppings there?
58:28
Oh. For the yeah, yeah, well, you
58:32
can, a lot of people don't know this, but you can, you can, you
58:36
can double up, triple up even I think quadruple up on toppings
58:40
there that they mix in. So I get like the one I usually
58:44
get when we go when our when, when I go to the beach with the
58:47
in laws, I usually start off each week with a Oreo M&M shake,
58:52
very solid, very solid. Oreo and M&M, Yep.
58:57
Is it a standard M&M? Is it a mini M&M, mini?
59:01
Those hit different. I don't care if you think.
59:04
Well, it's all chopped up honestly, so it's hard to say,
59:06
but yeah, sure. I want to say they're mini but.
59:09
Sure. If if not that chocolate chip
59:13
cheesecake flavor, that's the best of both worlds actually, so
59:17
maybe that might be my move. Anyway, it's nice cheesecake.
59:20
Yeah, I could get some peanut butter situation going in my
59:24
dessert. I wouldn't eat peanut butter at
59:26
some point that day. Sorry, we don't.
59:30
We're out of time. We're out of time.
59:31
It's time for trivia. Yeah.
59:33
Yeah. So keeping it on the food thing
59:35
a little bit. I'm, I'm a little bit upset that
59:37
neither of you mentioned that the trade between the Mets and
59:42
the Rangers was Tater for Sauce. The Nimmo's nickname is Tater.
59:49
Simeon's nickname is Sauce, and it's just too good to ignore.
59:53
But it has. To be said.
59:55
It has to be said. I think there's a reason you
59:58
didn't know that Nate are are these are we missing?
1:00:01
Like are we just completely oblivious or is this just one of
1:00:04
those like nicknames that baseball reference has but
1:00:07
nobody actually calls them? Because I'm I'm seeing more and
1:00:10
more of that. Yes, they.
1:00:12
Are known, but they also are baseball reference official.
1:00:17
Kind of like the relationship status back in the day.
1:00:19
Facebook official. Right.
1:00:22
You got it on baseball reference it's going to count.
1:00:24
Simeon actually is listed Mockus sauce or semi and Nemo as nims
1:00:32
or tater. I don't get the tater thing.
1:00:36
I don't get it. Perfect example, Rafael Devers,
1:00:40
his nickname and the Giants are pushing this real hard, I think
1:00:43
because they just wanted to stick stick out from like what
1:00:45
the Red Sox went with. But they're they his nickname on
1:00:49
baseball reference is Karita. And I'm like nobody calls him
1:00:53
that. Nobody in Boston for the
1:00:55
entirety of his career there called him that.
1:00:57
What is that? Is that anime thing?
1:01:00
What it? No, it's AI.
1:01:02
Don't. I don't know what it means in
1:01:03
Spanish. It's like little something.
1:01:07
Little face. It's maybe like a babyface
1:01:12
thing, yeah. Spanish word for little face.
1:01:17
There you go. Yeah, mystery solved.
1:01:22
Yeah, a little baby face that. I mean, that adds up, so yeah.
1:01:25
Let's keep the let's keep it going here with the with the
1:01:27
trivia here because I I wanted to keep it on brand here.
1:01:30
You got Sonny Gray, Simeon, Brandon Nimmo, all three, all
1:01:35
three drafted in 2011. So a little draft trivia here.
1:01:40
OK. Vanderbilt for Sonny Gray.
1:01:44
Yes, you're right. Vanderbilt for sunny Gray.
1:01:47
So round one, pick 13 Mets got Brandon Nimmo out of East High
1:01:51
School Cheyenne, WY. Pick 18.
1:01:54
The A's got Sunny Gray out of Vanderbilt Round six, pick 22 O
1:01:57
one overall White Sox got sauce out of UC Berkeley from that
1:02:04
draft class. Simeon has the third highest
1:02:07
Wore 49.2. Wore Sunny Gray eighth highest
1:02:11
33.8. Brandon Nimmo rounds out the top
1:02:14
1026.1. The trivia is there are 14
1:02:17
players from that draft with over 20 career WAR, which is
1:02:20
actually kind of crazy. How many can you name?
1:02:26
And then while you're thinking and then we'll then we'll see.
1:02:29
Yes, there are 14 players with over 20 career WAR.
1:02:32
Just think of the a excuse me, the age a little bit Nimmo a
1:02:35
little bit younger because drafted out of high school.
1:02:36
There's a couple of those in there and and we'll do hints to
1:02:40
keep it moving. But while you're thinking, I had
1:02:44
to go back to 2018 to find a trade where there were two
1:02:47
players who were making over $20 million who were traded for each
1:02:51
other. December 2018, the Cleveland
1:02:56
Indians sent Yandi Diaz and Cole Sulcer to the Rays and Edwin
1:03:00
Incarnacion the the 20 million guy and a pick to the Mariners.
1:03:06
Rays sent cash to the Mariners, Jake Bowers to the Indians.
1:03:09
Mariners sent Carlos Santana, he was making 20.3 in 2019.
1:03:14
So that was like clear back there to see.
1:03:16
Now that was like a three team trade, so a little bit weird on
1:03:19
that one. The year before that was the
1:03:21
Braves and Dodgers trade where Matt Kemp was traded back to the
1:03:25
Dodgers, Adrian Gonzalez, Culberson, Casmir McCarthy.
1:03:32
And then remember, the Braves just released Adrian Gonzalez
1:03:35
and paid him $22 million to play for the Mets, actually so.
1:03:41
That's a lot of money moving. Moving back and forth too
1:03:44
typically and Kyle, you talked about this earlier where it's
1:03:48
typically it's big money for a bunch of prospects anymore.
1:03:51
It's rare to see Major League for Major League trades.
1:03:56
Hopefully that's the thing we see more of.
1:03:58
Yeah, I do like that. All right, so back to the 2011
1:04:01
draft class. I've got to guess.
1:04:03
Yeah, although 2020 WAR seems a little steep.
1:04:07
And I frankly, I've been so checked out of this individual's
1:04:11
career for years at this point. No disrespect, but maybe I
1:04:16
don't. Maybe he got it.
1:04:18
He he could be so far off. Can I throw Chris Bryant into
1:04:22
the ring? Chris.
1:04:24
Bryant that is interesting to to think.
1:04:31
Was he draft? Was he in that class?
1:04:33
So that's what a writer for there he was not in the 2011
1:04:37
class. Was he not?
1:04:38
What class was he in? Let's let's.
1:04:41
Thought I had a pretty good pull there.
1:04:43
Yeah. It's got to be.
1:04:44
Plus, it's got. To be close.
1:04:46
Like a year. 2013. Two years, you lose 2 years.
1:04:52
All right, big guy, let's let's see who you throw out.
1:04:56
Over 20 wore. I feel like we're going to think
1:05:00
it's. One of them no longer in
1:05:05
baseball. This is pre, the rest are still
1:05:08
active. Yes, although one of them you,
1:05:13
it is kind of pseudo active and you'll you'll know when we get
1:05:18
to him. You've you've had a lot of of
1:05:21
content around this guy. This is pre Harper draft by the
1:05:24
way. Harper was what, 2012?
1:05:28
Stay with that team and you'll know exactly who I just
1:05:30
referenced. Well, that I said is pseudo
1:05:34
active. Right, but Harper was 2012 draft
1:05:40
I believe or no? No, he was 2011 because he was
1:05:42
rookie year. He's not.
1:05:46
He. He was 2010.
1:05:49
He got an CED early. He's he's my age.
1:05:51
But you guys read early, yeah? 2010.
1:05:54
Ricky the year 2012, yes. Yeah, give me like a Jock
1:05:58
Peterson. I don't know if he's got 20
1:06:00
award though. Yeah, I don't see him.
1:06:08
It's not. He's not there but I'm looking
1:06:10
up to see when he was drafted 2010 as well.
1:06:14
Maybe we should revise the tribute.
1:06:15
It just be if we can name one player.
1:06:17
You can name one player drafted into a so think back at your
1:06:21
Bryce Harper take and I said same team and a guy is who is
1:06:24
who is active but not really active and think of that team.
1:06:32
We suck it. I give you these.
1:06:34
Hints and it's like AI give you these hints thinking that it's
1:06:38
going to help, but I I'm looking at the name.
1:06:41
It's way easy to to make a suggestion when you're looking
1:06:44
at the name. Sure, you know what I mean.
1:06:46
So there's a couple of these guys it in the in the really top
1:06:49
ten that either play for your guys's teams or have played for
1:06:53
your guys's teams. Our teams, Our favorite team.
1:06:56
Yes, your favorite like you 2. Specifically, we have one of the
1:07:04
posts for sale not on there. We have one of the postseason
1:07:08
heroes. I felt great about my Chris
1:07:12
Bryant. If if Chris sales 2010 again he
1:07:16
is OK. So you guys are just one year
1:07:18
off? You're one year off.
1:07:20
Oh man. Whatever you were doing in 2010,
1:07:23
just fat. Just put yourself in the next.
1:07:27
Year. Nah.
1:07:28
This degrom feels later than that.
1:07:31
Yeah. Can't name anybody Anthony
1:07:39
Rendon to. Promise 2010 There's your guy,
1:07:43
there's your pseudo active guy. Anthony Rendon University 34.2
1:07:48
WAR Good bonus points on the Rice University.
1:07:52
See I can I can name colleges. Yeah, that's the, that's the 7th
1:07:57
best. So there's a there's another guy
1:08:00
who's currently on the Red Sox, another one who used to be on
1:08:03
the Red Sox, and one who is that and the other one.
1:08:11
Trevor Story. The what?
1:08:13
There you go. There's one Trevor Story 34.9
1:08:16
he's #6 Nate one me, you and I have in common 1/1/2011 That was
1:08:24
a dead giveaway. You and I have in common.
1:08:28
My team drafted it. IKF Gary Cole.
1:08:31
Gary Cole Gerr Cole 4 on the List, 42.6.
1:08:36
Yankee legend IKF I. So we traded Gerr Cole, that
1:08:40
number one on this list was was drafted in the fifth round out
1:08:44
of high school. Kyle's team traded him away.
1:08:49
Anthony Rizzo. No, no, there's chaos going
1:08:55
outside. Like we can hear that right now.
1:08:58
There's chaos on this trivia question right now.
1:09:02
Yeah. Just won the World Series.
1:09:04
This guy who? Just won the World Series.
1:09:07
Actually, two guys on this list just won the world.
1:09:10
Series come on, get with the program can't.
1:09:14
And one of the guys, the 5th overall, just lost it.
1:09:18
Freddy Freeman. Nope, idiot.
1:09:23
But the other guy? This is Clayton Kershaw.
1:09:27
No. Why?
1:09:29
He's too old. He's too old.
1:09:33
He's older than that. I wouldn't say are we done here?
1:09:36
We're looking for. I just want to figure out these
1:09:38
World Series. Participants and then I'm OK.
1:09:41
I will say the number two guy is Francisco Lindor.
1:09:46
That was a little tricky because I wouldn't have guessed he was
1:09:48
drafted in the. Jose Ramirez.
1:09:52
No, I think he was an international.
1:09:57
Player. Oh yeah, duh.
1:10:02
World Series. Yeah, he was international.
1:10:06
Kevin Gozman. No, I mean, like way better than
1:10:10
that. Like we're talking the some.
1:10:11
We're we're talking top five in war here.
1:10:14
No, you, I'm talking about you said lost the World Series.
1:10:17
That's why he went Gozman. Oh, he.
1:10:18
Said he won the world. Series the guy No he.
1:10:20
Said the guy who? Lost the World Series was on the
1:10:22
team who Lost the World Series is number 5.
1:10:25
George. Springer So we're talking, yes.
1:10:26
George Springer, there you go. I'm doing better than you.
1:10:31
So I'll, I'll give you another one.
1:10:32
Who's in the top? Can we can.
1:10:34
We can we number crunch the numbers on Chris Bryant?
1:10:36
I'm pretty sure Chris Bryant is an answer here.
1:10:39
I looked him up. What?
1:10:40
What was it was 2013 or something like that?
1:10:43
I know, just just crunch him. Oh yeah, 27.4.
1:10:50
So he'd be, he'd be on the list. Actually just above Nimmo, exact
1:10:54
same. This is actually funny.
1:10:55
Exact same war as Chris Bryant is number 9 on the list.
1:10:59
Javi Baez. That's another one that I
1:11:01
wouldn't think would be easy because I would have just
1:11:02
thought national out of Puerto Rico, El Moco.
1:11:08
All right, let's get the Dodgers and then.
1:11:10
Yeah, we've got we've got 2 Dodgers on this list, both out
1:11:19
of high school. Max Muncie.
1:11:24
Nope. I mean, you're missing like the
1:11:29
guy. Mookie Betts.
1:11:31
There you go. Yes. 75.2 war already for that.
1:11:36
Dude put him in the hall now, geez.
1:11:39
That's 20 better than Lindor, who's number 2 on this list.
1:11:43
What AG There's a. The other one is Blake Snell.
1:11:48
Yeah, there's Blake Snow. Wow.
1:11:49
We didn't even get a chance to guess it.
1:11:51
Yeah, well, I mean, loser, I don't know how long we were
1:11:54
going to go. There's a lot of really good
1:11:56
players in that draft class, though.
1:11:58
We're this is more this is less about trivia and more of just an
1:12:02
educational opportunity for night.
1:12:03
And night like. This, which I'm totally OK with,
1:12:06
I'm totally OK with. Now we know.
1:12:07
Definitely, definitely. I will never.
1:12:09
Forget moving forward that Kris Bryant was not in the draft
1:12:12
class of 2011. Yeah, yeah, I love that.
1:12:17
Austin Hedge's 0.1 WAR out of that draft class, that is 145
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players from that draft class with at least 0.1 more.
1:12:28
Is that, is that a lot do you think?
1:12:31
That seems like a lot. A lot of major leaguers.
1:12:36
Well, just like a lot of major leaguers out of one draft class.
1:12:39
It's more war than me. Because we're, I mean, we're
1:12:41
even talking like there's several guys on this list who
1:12:45
have negative WAR too, who've made it to the major leagues.
1:12:47
But just to say like you're at least average, that's a lot of
1:12:53
guys. Youth baseball's changed man.
1:12:57
Trevor Bauer in that draft as well.
1:13:01
Awkward. Didn't I hear that the the
1:13:06
awards this year were all college players?
1:13:13
Like every award this year was a guy who went to college?
1:13:16
I think I heard that somewhere. I.
1:13:23
Don't know, I heard today that LeBron James, if he misses four
1:13:29
more games, is in danger of missing out on player awards
1:13:31
because the NBA has, I believe, what is it a 65 games played
1:13:37
minimum for awards? And then I was started thinking,
1:13:39
does do do we have something for that for baseball?
1:13:42
I mean, I know you've got, you've got like qualifying
1:13:45
thresholds and all that, but that's more for like statistical
1:13:50
categories, counting stats, things like that.
1:13:52
But do we have something? Do we have a minimum for?
1:13:55
Yeah, I would think like a batting title you would have a
1:13:57
minimum because it's because they would have to be qualified
1:14:00
so. Right.
1:14:00
But I'm I'm talking like major, like major awards.
1:14:06
I don't. I don't know that.
1:14:07
We do. It's just voting right so you
1:14:09
could vote for who you want. Yeah.
1:14:12
It's in the BBWAA scenes. Interesting.
1:14:15
As broken as our system is, it's still better than the other
1:14:18
sports. Love it so.
1:14:21
And we'll end with that good, good stuff tonight, gents.
1:14:27
This was fun, folks. Hope you have a happy
1:14:29
Thanksgiving. Hope this provides you a little
1:14:32
bit of entertainment. Honestly, we love all of you
1:14:36
guys. But I mentioned it earlier off
1:14:38
the top. This is this episode is
1:14:40
dedicated to the folks that just need to get away from the, the,
1:14:45
the chatter at the at the dinner table and just need to take a
1:14:49
breather, go Outback, cool off a little bit, enjoy a beverage and
1:14:54
maybe just throw the pot on. Because I, as an introvert
1:14:57
myself, I get it. Sometimes you just need to step
1:14:59
away. Put the pot on during
1:15:02
Thanksgiving. Honestly, yeah, honestly, if
1:15:05
you're trying to avoid the politics conversation and all
1:15:08
that, just throw the pot on the Bluetooth speaker.
1:15:11
We're here for that. And just let it, let it eat, pun
1:15:15
intended. But gents, hope you have a a
1:15:18
great Thanksgiving, our listeners.
1:15:21
Our viewers, your noodles. Yeah.
1:15:23
Absolutely crazy. Hope you all hope you all enjoy
1:15:28
it. We are thankful for you.
1:15:30
We are thankful for the listeners, the viewers and we
1:15:32
hope you have a a great, a great holiday and a great holiday
1:15:36
weekend and that'll do it for me.
1:15:40
Read the hat, check out the shop.
1:15:43
Don't go chasing Curt Balls we. Love you all, and as always,
1:15:45
looking forward to talking more baseball with you guys soon.
1:15:47
Until next time, stay filthy.