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- 0:00Speaker 1: The Talk Station. 7.30 on a Tuesday. It's that time
- 0:03Speaker 1: of the week. We get to talk with Tom Zawistowski.
- 0:06Speaker 2: You can find his webpage easily, and I recommend that
- 0:08Speaker 2: you do that and then hit that bookmark.
- 0:10Speaker 1: And there's a donate button, too.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Help Tom Zawistowski at wethepeopleconvention.org spread the message. As he
- 0:15Speaker 2: points out in the podcast this week, liberty requires citizens
- 0:18Speaker 2: who are informed and engaged. Sadly, we don't have enough informed,
- 0:21Speaker 2: engaged people, Tom Zawistowski, if they're going to vote against
- 0:24Speaker 2: their best interests just because they have disdain for evil
- 0:27Speaker 2: orange man.
- 0:28Speaker 1: This is the only thing I can come up with, Tom.
- 0:30Speaker 1: You know, go ahead.
- 0:31Speaker 2: Say you're going to give Medicare to all.
- 0:33Speaker 1: We don't have the money for that.
- 0:34Speaker 2: I mean, as much as our national debt has accumulated,
- 0:37Speaker 2: it would cost them 10 years for Medicare for all.
- 0:39Speaker 3: It's just not going to work.
- 0:40Speaker 1: People are deluded. Tom, welcome back.
- 0:44Speaker 3: They are deluded. And it's a plan and it's propaganda. And,
- 0:49Speaker 3: you know, they never explain, you know, they just say it, right?
- 0:52Speaker 3: The Democrats always say it's Medicare or Bernie Sanders. It's
- 0:55Speaker 3: Medicare for all. Never talks about how they're going to
- 0:58Speaker 3: fund it. Never talks about, how about this one, Brian?
- 1:01Speaker 3: We always talk about this with communism and same thing
- 1:03Speaker 3: with Medicare for all. Show me an example where it worked.
- 1:07Speaker 3: Go to England, go to Canada, go anywhere and show
- 1:10Speaker 3: how government medicine has been a good thing. It's horrible.
- 1:15Speaker 3: Matter of fact, in Canada, they're offering to just have
- 1:18Speaker 3: you die because they can't afford to take.
- 1:21Speaker 1: Care of you.
- 1:21Speaker 3: So, you know, these people are insane and, but unfortunately
- 1:25Speaker 3: in our world today brian people don't dig deep enough
- 1:30Speaker 3: uh maybe they don't even have access to information that
- 1:33Speaker 3: helps them see it in a deeper context and it's
- 1:36Speaker 3: it's that it really is a detriment to our whole
- 1:39Speaker 3: republic and to our it's particularly our voting system because
- 1:43Speaker 3: you're voting for things you don't even understand.
- 1:45Speaker 2: Isn't that the truth and that's how they get the
- 1:48Speaker 2: socialists come communists get away with it because they sell
- 1:51Speaker 2: a bill of goods it sounds so you know, lofty
- 1:53Speaker 2: and noble and, oh, my God, it's from each according
- 1:56Speaker 2: to his ability, each according to his needs, so everybody
- 1:58Speaker 2: gets to participate to the extent they can, just ignoring
- 2:01Speaker 2: human nature. You know, that's the part that fails with
- 2:04Speaker 2: socialism and communism every single time. You know, when you're
- 2:07Speaker 2: finally told that you're not going to be able to
- 2:09Speaker 2: get more because you work harder or you create something
- 2:12Speaker 2: that's valuable that people want, you don't do it anymore.
- 2:16Speaker 2: Like so many people, Jay called earlier, reminding us of
- 2:20Speaker 2: the labor participation rate. There are a whole lot of
- 2:24Speaker 2: able-bodied adults living in our country that are on the
- 2:27Speaker 2: social welfare safety net. Able-bodied, meaning if they could, they should.
- 2:32Speaker 2: Are they going to suddenly magically in a world of
- 2:34Speaker 2: communism or socialism start working, Tom, because they have ability
- 2:39Speaker 2: to offer into the societal nirvana they promise?
- 2:43Speaker 1: I doubt it.
- 2:44Speaker 3: Yeah, well, go back to our founding. Go back to
- 2:46Speaker 3: the Plymouth Colony, right? What happened when the Pilgrims first
- 2:50Speaker 3: landed in the United States was And they had a
- 2:54Speaker 3: communist type system. Everyone shares in whatever we make and
- 2:59Speaker 3: everybody does their work, except some people didn't do much
- 3:02Speaker 3: work at all.
- 3:03Speaker 1: Like Bernie Sanders.
- 3:03Speaker 3: And they started, right? Yeah. And then what did they do?
- 3:07Speaker 3: They said, we got to change that. So you get
- 3:09Speaker 3: to keep whatever you grow. and they put some capitalism
- 3:13Speaker 3: in there, and they survived. Folks, it's history, and people
- 3:17Speaker 3: understand history. And so, Brian, that's why I posted on
- 3:21Speaker 3: the We the People convention website the speech by Marco
- 3:25Speaker 3: Rubio in front of the Acropolis in Athens, Greece. I
- 3:29Speaker 3: have to admit, I heard about it. I didn't really
- 3:33Speaker 3: watch it. I kind of blew it off. And then,
- 3:37Speaker 3: I don't know. Something just said, you got to go
- 3:39Speaker 3: back and look at this because I don't know who's
- 3:42Speaker 3: writing Marco Rubio's speeches, but they're amazing. And he delivers
- 3:47Speaker 3: this speech that is titled The Defense of Western Civilization
- 3:51Speaker 3: that every one of your viewers should watch.
- 3:53Speaker 1: Fantastic.
- 3:54Speaker 2: And we'll dive into some of the details and your
- 3:55Speaker 2: observations on that. We're coming up in the next segment
- 3:57Speaker 2: because we're about out of time in this segment. I
- 4:00Speaker 2: thought I'd just also interject, in addition to The idea
- 4:04Speaker 2: of going back to Medicare for all, which is one
- 4:06Speaker 2: of the leftist promises. They also want illegal immigrants to
- 4:11Speaker 2: sit at the table of Medicare for all as well.
- 4:14Speaker 2: No country in the world is doing that. And you
- 4:16Speaker 2: mentioned Canada. My understanding is if you just go to
- 4:18Speaker 2: Canada expecting to get on their their their health system,
- 4:22Speaker 2: you got to live there for like five years before
- 4:23Speaker 2: you're even eligible. which is the only way a crumbling
- 4:27Speaker 2: healthcare system like Canada has can sustain itself. If you
- 4:30Speaker 2: let every man, woman, and child who walks into Canada
- 4:32Speaker 2: hook up to it, as we weirdly do with everything
- 4:35Speaker 2: else related to the social welfare safety net, it's a
- 4:38Speaker 2: recipe for collapse.
- 4:41Speaker 3: Yeah, well, what did we learn from Obamacare, right? They
- 4:44Speaker 3: tried it. We learned it raised everyone's costs and lowered
- 4:49Speaker 3: the health care. It's that simple. It's right in front.
- 4:51Speaker 3: It's not like 100 years ago. It's 20 years ago,
- 4:55Speaker 3: and we're still paying for it. Enough already. What does
- 4:59Speaker 3: the government do well? Not much. So have them do
- 5:03Speaker 3: as little as they can, and you'll be a lot
- 5:06Speaker 3: better off.
- 5:07Speaker 2: More with Tom Z, and we'll talk about Marco Rubio's speech,
- 5:09Speaker 2: among other topics.
- 5:11Speaker 1: With WeThePeopleConvention.org. KRC, the talk station.
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- 5:21Speaker 1: WeThePeopleConvention.org.
- 5:22Speaker 2: Tom Zawistowski on the program at this time every week.
- 5:24Speaker 2: We have a couple of segments with him, and the
- 5:26Speaker 2: webpage is worth going to. And, of course, you've got
- 5:28Speaker 2: to listen to Tom's podcast. Some of the details we're
- 5:30Speaker 2: going to talk about right now. What impressed you so
- 5:32Speaker 2: much about Marco Rubio's words, whether or not you can
- 5:35Speaker 2: attribute it to him or a speechwriter, Tom?
- 5:38Speaker 3: Well, It was the most, I don't know, in 27 minutes,
- 5:43Speaker 3: he takes you from, you know, the Greeks and their,
- 5:47Speaker 3: you know, discussions of democracy and, you know, the principles
- 5:51Speaker 3: that much of Western civilization is built on all the
- 5:54Speaker 3: way up to today and what it means to you, literally,
- 5:59Speaker 3: to you as a voter, to the people listening to this,
- 6:02Speaker 3: you know, this station right now. he puts in perspective
- 6:06Speaker 3: that this vote you're going to cast is a vote
- 6:09Speaker 3: to defend everything that mankind has built throughout history. It
- 6:15Speaker 3: is beautifully written. It's beautiful to watch. If you don't
- 6:19Speaker 3: want to watch it, I put the transcript there so
- 6:22Speaker 3: you can read it because it's a really good read.
- 6:24Speaker 3: It's at wethepeopleconvention.org under the video section. And so I
- 6:28Speaker 3: sent it out yesterday and And just to say to people,
- 6:32Speaker 3: this is why you're voting. No one talks about why
- 6:36Speaker 3: you're voting. They tell you what to do, who to
- 6:38Speaker 3: vote for, all that stuff. But it's deeper than that.
- 6:43Speaker 3: The principles that have built... Our civilization, your way of life,
- 6:48Speaker 3: all that you have in your life that you value
- 6:52Speaker 3: started all the way back with the Greeks and the
- 6:56Speaker 3: Romans and coming through history. And as you and I
- 6:59Speaker 3: have talked many times, they sure aren't teaching our kids
- 7:02Speaker 3: any history in school. So I would guess that most
- 7:06Speaker 3: of the people watching this Rubio speech would get the
- 7:09Speaker 3: best history lesson they've probably gotten in their entire life.
- 7:13Speaker 2: Well, and the weird thing about it, and it's weird,
- 7:15Speaker 2: it's sort of a tactical decision that the left has made,
- 7:17Speaker 2: the socialists have made, that if it has connection to
- 7:22Speaker 2: our collective history, Judeo-Christian ethic perhaps, or perhaps going all
- 7:27Speaker 2: the way back to the Greek times, it's that evil
- 7:30Speaker 2: European white man stuff that we just can't have because, well,
- 7:34Speaker 2: I guess it started with evil white.
- 7:36Speaker 1: Men or something, Tom.
- 7:37Speaker 2: It just really is anything Eurocentric, bad.
- 7:41Speaker 1: Right.
- 7:42Speaker 2: Isn't that really the fault they go to? Not particularly
- 7:44Speaker 2: breaking down why it's so damn bad when everything that
- 7:48Speaker 2: is good in the world is pretty much flowed from it.
- 7:51Speaker 2: I mean, those who have not lived with the Judeo-Christian
- 7:54Speaker 2: sort of work ethic and morals and in representative democracies
- 7:58Speaker 2: like we have, the republic that we live in, they
- 8:00Speaker 2: have miserably miserable lives by comparison. It's just again, I
- 8:05Speaker 2: don't understand why people don't get.
- 8:07Speaker 1: It, Tom.
- 8:08Speaker 3: Well, see, this is why it's important for people to understand.
- 8:12Speaker 3: We are all part of something way bigger than us
- 8:15Speaker 3: and something way bigger than just the United States. It's
- 8:18Speaker 3: a civilizational conflict that's been going on for thousands of years.
- 8:23Speaker 3: And this November 3rd, the vote you're going to cast...
- 8:28Speaker 3: is going to have a huge effect on the future
- 8:32Speaker 3: of history. Either we're going to push back the communists,
- 8:36Speaker 3: the Marxists, the Islamists, and defend Western civilization and continue
- 8:42Speaker 3: to move forward, or we're going to give it up
- 8:46Speaker 3: and you're going to lose it. And that's why I
- 8:49Speaker 3: put this speech out there for people to watch and
- 8:51Speaker 3: to read, but because you need to understand why you're voting.
- 8:56Speaker 3: It's not just because, well, you know, my gas prices
- 8:59Speaker 3: are too high, so I'm going to vote for the
- 9:00Speaker 3: Democrats or I'm not going to vote. It's way bigger
- 9:03Speaker 3: than that. It's about your future. It's about the future
- 9:06Speaker 3: of civilization. And I just don't think most people have
- 9:11Speaker 3: any idea of that perspective. And that's why I put
- 9:14Speaker 3: that out there. And it's just another reason for everyone
- 9:17Speaker 3: to go and vote against every Democrat because they want
- 9:23Speaker 3: to end Western civilization. They literally do. I'm not making
- 9:27Speaker 3: it up.
- 9:28Speaker 1: No, you're not making it up.
- 9:30Speaker 2: I mean, it's one of the reasons for the unchecked,
- 9:32Speaker 2: unregulated immigration flowing across our border. I mean, we've talked
- 9:34Speaker 2: about this many times. It just becomes so evident. When
- 9:37Speaker 2: you start seeing, you know, like a community of former,
- 9:42Speaker 2: like Somalians, for example, set up shop and we create
- 9:44Speaker 2: their own individual society within our society. Now, people collectively,
- 9:48Speaker 2: I mean, typically live together because they're like-minded. I mean,
- 9:51Speaker 2: I grew up in a pretty much all-Catholic neighborhood, although
- 9:54Speaker 2: I wasn't Catholic. You're surrounded by Catholics on the West Side.
- 9:57Speaker 1: Well, why?
- 9:58Speaker 2: Because they're Catholic and they chose to live among each.
- 10:00Speaker 1: Other, right? That's fine.
- 10:01Speaker 2: But they don't reject American values. They're steeped in American culture.
- 10:08Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. No, it's insane. And I think it's good
- 10:14Speaker 3: that more people are calling it insane. I think that
- 10:17Speaker 3: it's good that more people are seeing it as insane, right?
- 10:20Speaker 3: You know, you talk about Ilhan Omar and, you know,
- 10:23Speaker 3: the raid on our house and stuff like that. You know,
- 10:25Speaker 3: I think that Trump is trying to make people see
- 10:29Speaker 3: what's really going on. I mean, this El-Said guy, he's
- 10:33Speaker 3: literally talking about wide open borders, more open than they
- 10:38Speaker 3: were under Biden. He's talking about every illegal immigrant has
- 10:42Speaker 3: a right to come in and take advantage of all
- 10:46Speaker 3: of our social welfare programs without explaining who the heck
- 10:49Speaker 3: pays for it. And I've talked to you about our
- 10:52Speaker 3: barn billboard program, and I'm happy to say we have
- 10:54Speaker 3: an electronic board up on 71 in Cincinnati. And it says,
- 10:59Speaker 3: free for them, taken from you. That is what socialism
- 11:04Speaker 3: and communism is, and that's what they want to bring
- 11:08Speaker 3: to you. They want you to pay for other people's
- 11:11Speaker 3: free stuff. Do you want to do that? I don't
- 11:15Speaker 3: want to do that. I don't think anybody listening to
- 11:17Speaker 3: the show wants to do that. Even if you're a Democrat,
- 11:20Speaker 3: if you're a young person. So what do you got
- 11:22Speaker 3: to do? You got to vote to stop the madness
- 11:26Speaker 3: which this year means you've got to vote against every Democrat,
- 11:30Speaker 3: which means vote for every Republican, and then we'll take
- 11:34Speaker 3: care of the Republicans later. The bottom line is, this
- 11:38Speaker 3: is a tipping point. If they take the House... I've
- 11:41Speaker 3: got a meme out that just says, why should you vote?
- 11:45Speaker 3: Stop the impeachment of Trump. Because I've got quotes from
- 11:49Speaker 3: up by five different Democrats saying, we've got to impeach
- 11:52Speaker 3: him in week one. In week one, they're going to
- 11:56Speaker 3: stop the entire MAGA agenda. Do you want that? Go ahead,
- 12:00Speaker 3: stay home. Vote for the Democrats because that's going to happen.
- 12:03Speaker 1: Dunk away.
- 12:03Speaker 2: We're going to have a couple more. F55 care. See
- 12:11Speaker 2: the talk station right here. The, uh, inside scoop with
- 12:14Speaker 2: Breitbart news, political editor, Bradley James, who would be speaking on, uh,
- 12:18Speaker 2: the upcoming midterms of the empower you. Someone, we learned
- 12:20Speaker 2: about that earlier from Dr. J, but Tom's out Stasky, we,
- 12:23Speaker 2: the people convention.org website. Uh, you know, you said maybe
- 12:28Speaker 2: just people don't have access to the information earlier. You know,
- 12:32Speaker 2: they're not paying attention. They don't have access to the information,
- 12:34Speaker 2: the stuff that you and I, you know, pay attention
- 12:36Speaker 2: to and realize that, yeah, you can say Medicare for all,
- 12:39Speaker 2: for example, And then if you look at the numbers,
- 12:41Speaker 2: you realize that there isn't enough money on the planet
- 12:44Speaker 2: to fund the program. That's a bit of an overstatement,
- 12:46Speaker 2: but it can't be afforded. We've got all kinds of obligations.
- 12:50Speaker 2: You can defund the military if you want. We can
- 12:52Speaker 2: go naked without an army to protect us, but there's
- 12:54Speaker 2: not enough money to run all these socialist programs. Just
- 12:57Speaker 2: the economy can't bear it. And if you do tax
- 13:00Speaker 2: people enough, Tom, and you know this, and everybody should,
- 13:03Speaker 2: if you tax people so much, like those evil billionaires,
- 13:05Speaker 2: we're going to take 70% of it. Fewer dollars end
- 13:09Speaker 2: up in the government coffers. Tax collection goes down. So
- 13:15Speaker 2: they're offering a solution, taxing the rich, to solve a
- 13:19Speaker 2: problem that they're going to create by offering public services
- 13:22Speaker 2: to literally every man, woman, and child who is here
- 13:24Speaker 2: and comes across our border with a theory that is
- 13:27Speaker 2: going to result in even less money than we're dealing
- 13:29Speaker 2: with right now. And we're spending, what, $ 2 trillion extra
- 13:32Speaker 2: a year on a regular basis because we can't afford
- 13:34Speaker 2: what we've got now, Tom.
- 13:37Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, so again, we lived through the Reagan era, right?
- 13:42Speaker 3: What was it about Reagan? Reagan cut taxes and everyone said, oh,
- 13:46Speaker 3: what a disaster. You know, the taxes will, you know,
- 13:48Speaker 3: you'll have less money for the government. And they had more. Okay.
- 13:52Speaker 3: And that's happened over Trump's doing the same thing. So
- 13:56Speaker 3: we've seen this. And again, it's so frustrating because take
- 14:01Speaker 3: an example, Fox News. What a waste of airspace. I mean,
- 14:06Speaker 3: here we have all these important things going on, and
- 14:09Speaker 3: they're spending hours yesterday talking about somebody, I don't even know,
- 14:14Speaker 3: an actress or somebody who bit somebody on an airplane
- 14:17Speaker 3: and tried to open a door. Okay. It's bread and circuses.
- 14:22Speaker 3: And it's so frustrating because, you know, like I said,
- 14:26Speaker 3: it's out there. If you look, if you go to we,
- 14:28Speaker 3: the people convention.org, you'll find news that you won't, you'll
- 14:32Speaker 3: see anywhere else. That's what we say about our podcast.
- 14:35Speaker 3: If you listen to this show, you will hear serious discussions.
- 14:39Speaker 3: The Breitbart segment every week. I, after I'm done, I
- 14:42Speaker 3: stay and listen to, because they tell you the truth
- 14:45Speaker 3: about what's going on. We are. We are in the
- 14:50Speaker 3: information age, but we have less information than ever because
- 14:54Speaker 3: there's so much noise and propaganda.
- 14:56Speaker 1: Find the truth.
- 14:59Speaker 2: I mean, you can be critical of Fox because they do, well,
- 15:02Speaker 2: report on clickbait. Fox knows the recipe for high ratings, Tom. Yeah,
- 15:08Speaker 2: they're going to give you a conservative spin that the
- 15:10Speaker 2: other networks aren't going to give because they're the only
- 15:11Speaker 2: ones out there we can comfortably rely on, at least
- 15:13Speaker 2: one of the few. And they've got a reputation for
- 15:16Speaker 2: bucking the system and bucking the trend of mainstream media's
- 15:18Speaker 2: liberal outlets. But they also realize that people really, if
- 15:24Speaker 2: they're paying attention to politics, they're not really paying much attention.
- 15:27Speaker 2: So if you can get a Fox News viewer over
- 15:29Speaker 2: there just because they're reporting on clickbait and you can
- 15:31Speaker 2: get them to hang around a while, then they might
- 15:34Speaker 2: learn something else. But that takes me back to the
- 15:35Speaker 2: access to information. The information is there for all to
- 15:41Speaker 2: read or absorb. You have to find it. You have
- 15:44Speaker 2: to take effort to pay attention to politics and economics, Tom.
- 15:49Speaker 2: People don't want to do that. Finite number of hours
- 15:52Speaker 2: in the day. You're working all day long. You want
- 15:54Speaker 2: to spend time with your friends. You want to binge
- 15:55Speaker 2: watch your favorite Netflix show. How does politics compete with
- 15:59Speaker 2: anything else that's available for us to do in our
- 16:01Speaker 2: spare time, Tom? Normally, it doesn't. That's why you and
- 16:04Speaker 2: I are looked at as weirdos because we spend so
- 16:06Speaker 2: much time paying attention to politics.
- 16:08Speaker 1: We should be the norm.
- 16:11Speaker 3: Yeah, well, common sense... versus crazy has been the theme
- 16:15Speaker 3: that you've been hearing. And so part of what you're
- 16:17Speaker 3: talking about is if you're not gonna spend that time
- 16:21Speaker 3: to do your research and figure it out, then at
- 16:24Speaker 3: least use common sense. So when someone says to you, hey,
- 16:29Speaker 3: we're gonna give free healthcare to everyone, It's not that
- 16:33Speaker 3: hard for the common American who deals with their own
- 16:37Speaker 3: budget to go, yeah, who's going to pay for that?
- 16:40Speaker 3: And what does that cost? I mean, so I do
- 16:44Speaker 3: think that that's the key to this election. Our people
- 16:48Speaker 3: aren't stupid. They're not. They may be uninformed, Brian, right?
- 16:52Speaker 3: And they may be influenced by things that they aren't
- 16:55Speaker 3: aware they're being manipulated. But they're not stupid. And I
- 16:59Speaker 3: do believe that you're seeing in the polls and things
- 17:02Speaker 3: that people are starting to figure some things out. They
- 17:06Speaker 3: don't want unlimited illegal immigration. They figured out that, geez,
- 17:10Speaker 3: that raised the rents, that raised the medical costs, that
- 17:15Speaker 3: hurt me. And so I think that's what we got
- 17:18Speaker 3: to focus on is think it through, analyze it a
- 17:21Speaker 3: little bit, and you'll know where to vote.
- 17:23Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 17:24Speaker 2: And bookmark wethepeopleconvention.org's website. There's the easy information. Tom's speaking
- 17:29Speaker 2: the truth every single day. Tom, we'll have you on
- 17:32Speaker 2: next week. We'll do this again. And I appreciate what
- 17:34Speaker 2: you do throughout the week, brother.