Latest / The Skol Hop / The Vikings are 12-2, We try FOUR different Iowa beers, Good chats with Forrest | TSH Ep. 71
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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right, Ay, Vikings fans, welcome into another episode of
- 0:02Speaker 1: the School Half.
- 0:03Speaker 2: I'm Evan and I'm Austin.
- 0:05Speaker 1: Where's a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like drinking
- 0:07Speaker 1: beer talking about the Vikings.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Yep. And you may notice, if you're watching on YouTube
- 0:12Speaker 2: or Spotify that we are graced yet again with friend
- 0:15Speaker 2: of the show, Forrest.
- 0:16Speaker 3: Thanks for coming.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Yeah, so Forrest has been pretty regular anytime the Vikings
- 0:22Speaker 1: have played the Bears. In fact, the reason that we're
- 0:25Speaker 1: kind of doing this virtually is because our normal recording
- 0:29Speaker 1: night is Monday, and the Vikings and the Bears played
- 0:31Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football, so we kind of got to
- 0:33Speaker 1: watch the second half of the game together and talk
- 0:36Speaker 1: about a whole bunch of other stuff while we were
- 0:38Speaker 1: watching it.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Yep. And some of the other stuff that we talked
- 0:42Speaker 2: about was we kind of did some recapping on all
- 0:46Speaker 2: things NFC North as of right now. So how do
- 0:49Speaker 2: things land? The Lions lost, the Packers won and put
- 0:52Speaker 2: the Vikings in. It was pretty interesting to talk about.
- 0:57Speaker 3: Yeah, And regardless of the outcome of the game, we
- 1:00Speaker 3: had three different I whip row beers that we all
- 1:04Speaker 3: tried in our different locations, so amazing regardless.
- 1:08Speaker 1: Yeah, so, no matter what you're into drinking and if
- 1:11Speaker 1: you want to find out what beers specifically, we all tried,
- 1:15Speaker 1: make sure you check out this episode, grab your favorite beverage,
- 1:18Speaker 1: and join us school school pil All right, we're gonna
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- 2:24Speaker 2: this was. Today was the first workday back since being
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- 2:40Speaker 3: Appreciate you bringing in a little bit of the.
- 2:42Speaker 2: Warmer weather, a little bit, a little bit.
- 2:44Speaker 3: Not great, better than what we had.
- 2:46Speaker 2: So yeah, it was like ice and freezing rain while
- 2:51Speaker 2: we were traveling home, but by the time we landed
- 2:53Speaker 2: it was it was all okay. But yeah, so you
- 2:55Speaker 2: may notice a couple of things here, skull hoppers. You
- 2:59Speaker 2: might notice that extra voice. It's a Vikings Bears game
- 3:03Speaker 2: actually going on right now, which is something I'll talk
- 3:06Speaker 2: about here in a minute. The Vikings Bears game. We've
- 3:08Speaker 2: got front of the show forest here. Graciously, it's turned
- 3:11Speaker 2: into every Vikings Bears game you've come on. I don't
- 3:14Speaker 2: think we've missed one yet, So thank you for coming on, Forrest.
- 3:18Speaker 2: We appreciate you being here. Even though the other thing
- 3:23Speaker 2: that I'm going to say, we are recording during the
- 3:26Speaker 2: Vikings Bears game. So you in the future listening, you
- 3:30Speaker 2: know how this game ended up right now for us.
- 3:32Speaker 2: Right now, the third quarter just started, the Vikings are
- 3:35Speaker 2: driving down and it's thirteen and nothing, and Sam Darnold
- 3:39Speaker 2: just threw an incomplete pass to make it third and fifteen.
- 3:41Speaker 2: So that's how real it is right now. But we
- 3:45Speaker 2: are all recording from our own houses right now, so
- 3:48Speaker 2: it might sound a little bit different than normal, and
- 3:52Speaker 2: if you are, of course, if you're watching the video
- 3:54Speaker 2: on YouTube or Spotify, you can see that. Or the
- 3:58Speaker 2: only one of us is in the the skull Man's Center,
- 4:02Speaker 2: the normal recording studio. That's Evan, So Forrest and I
- 4:05Speaker 2: we're both at home. Evan's at home too, but he
- 4:07Speaker 2: always is. So yeah, that's that's kind of what we're
- 4:10Speaker 2: doing right now.
- 4:11Speaker 3: I just couldn't. I couldn't take facing you too in
- 4:15Speaker 3: person tonight after a bad performance. Well that's funny, but
- 4:20Speaker 3: you're not the reason that we're recording from home. It's actually,
- 4:23Speaker 3: you know, kind of life schedules happen, and you know,
- 4:26Speaker 3: sometimes you go do things a little bit different.
- 4:28Speaker 2: So this is fun though. We get to talk about
- 4:31Speaker 2: the game as it's happening, kind of live react. But
- 4:33Speaker 2: we'll talk about other stuff too. I guess before we
- 4:37Speaker 2: get to that, well a couple of things. Because we're
- 4:41Speaker 2: recording live or during the game, we don't really know
- 4:44Speaker 2: how Purple Punishments is gonna shake out. So I think
- 4:47Speaker 2: we're still figuring out that we might do some double
- 4:50Speaker 2: spinning next episode. I'm not too sure, but Evan and
- 4:54Speaker 2: I we will we will get that figured out. And
- 4:58Speaker 2: one other thing, we got to talk about beer. We've
- 5:00Speaker 2: got three different beers on the episode. Probably I guess
- 5:03Speaker 2: I don't know what everybody else is drinking. But yeah,
- 5:05Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about what we're drinking tonight.
- 5:08Speaker 1: Do we all have Iowa beer?
- 5:10Speaker 2: I have an Iowa beer? Of course. Yeah, that's that's
- 5:14Speaker 2: the mantra of the episode. So we did tell Forrest
- 5:16Speaker 2: he's an Illinois resident. We told him that he didn't
- 5:19Speaker 2: necessarily have to hold to the school hops. I will
- 5:22Speaker 2: only beer because he's technically in Illinois right now. But yeah,
- 5:27Speaker 2: it sounds like Forrest is drinking an Iowa beer. I
- 5:30Speaker 2: may you may notice my voice cut off every once
- 5:32Speaker 2: in a while because I have a Vikings game live
- 5:34Speaker 2: in front of me, So I'm gonna get just slightly
- 5:37Speaker 2: distracted throughout this episode. But who wants to go first?
- 5:44Speaker 1: Wow? You go first?
- 5:45Speaker 2: Yeah? All right, I'm really excited about this one. I've
- 5:48Speaker 2: had a version of this before, but from single speed.
- 5:52Speaker 2: I haven't had this one yet. I'm really excited to
- 5:56Speaker 2: be drinking the mint tip the cow. I don't think
- 6:01Speaker 2: i've ever had it before. For us, you may be
- 6:03Speaker 2: able to tell me if I'm wrong, and we've had
- 6:04Speaker 2: it before together.
- 6:05Speaker 3: I don't think we've had it together.
- 6:07Speaker 2: But I've never had it before. I'm really excited about this.
- 6:10Speaker 1: It's a good one, nice all right, Forrest.
- 6:13Speaker 2: So you got.
- 6:15Speaker 3: I am drinking Confluence Natsy with a coffee, Hazelmut coffee.
- 6:21Speaker 2: So there you go.
- 6:22Speaker 3: Yeah, they make it once a year. It's one of
- 6:26Speaker 3: me and my wife's favorites.
- 6:27Speaker 1: So you guys are both kind of riding the coffee
- 6:30Speaker 1: vibes tonight a little bit. There you go. Well, I
- 6:34Speaker 1: have some really special beer that I'm excited not to,
- 6:38Speaker 1: you know, trump either of you guys and what you
- 6:40Speaker 1: guys brought. But I was able to visit a brewery
- 6:44Speaker 1: that Austin and I are going to go to for
- 6:46Speaker 1: a live podcast event in January, River Ridge Brewing up
- 6:51Speaker 1: in Bellevue, Iowa. So I stopped through there on my
- 6:55Speaker 1: way to just a little weekend trip last weekend, and
- 6:59Speaker 1: they great saciously hooked me up with a few different beers.
- 7:03Speaker 1: And while we were there, I got to try like
- 7:06Speaker 1: five of their beers. They gave me little samples of
- 7:09Speaker 1: stuff and I had a few full glasses of a
- 7:12Speaker 1: few things too. So I'm really excited to show you
- 7:19Speaker 1: guys these tonight. This is They're Lucky Catch Irish Red. Okay,
- 7:25Speaker 1: so of course you know, anything in that category is
- 7:29Speaker 1: my favorite, and I tried it. It was really good.
- 7:32Speaker 1: The one that I'm really excited for you to try, Austin.
- 7:36Speaker 1: I don't know what your take on porters is for
- 7:39Speaker 1: ust but you might like this too. This is their
- 7:43Speaker 1: friends Vanilla Porter. And my camera is struggling to focus
- 7:48Speaker 1: on it right now, but they gave me a sample
- 7:52Speaker 1: of this. I didn't even know that they it was
- 7:55Speaker 1: this beer. The bartender just poured me something, put it
- 7:58Speaker 1: in front of me, and I tried it, and I
- 7:59Speaker 1: was like, whoa, that is amazing. And it reminded me
- 8:03Speaker 1: of when Austin and I were in college and we
- 8:06Speaker 1: tried the snow Drift Fivanilla Porter for the first time
- 8:09Speaker 1: from Line and Google's and we both fell in love
- 8:11Speaker 1: with it, especially kind of around this time of year,
- 8:14Speaker 1: the winter months. So I think this is what I'm
- 8:17Speaker 1: going to start with. Nice, that's super good and well.
- 8:22Speaker 2: That sounds exciting. Yeah, school hoppers, keeping eyes and ears
- 8:25Speaker 2: out for that on tap event that the mainstream podcast
- 8:30Speaker 2: is putting on. We met the mainstream at the AWA
- 8:33Speaker 2: Podcast Awards. Like Kevin said, and really ever since I've
- 8:36Speaker 2: been listening to them their podcast. I hadn't heard of
- 8:39Speaker 2: them before that, just like I'm sure they hadn't heard
- 8:41Speaker 2: of us before that. But I've been listening to them.
- 8:44Speaker 2: They do a really good job. They just kind of
- 8:46Speaker 2: talk about guy stuff and it's not just like, oh,
- 8:49Speaker 2: you know, just the frat boy guy stuff. It's like,
- 8:52Speaker 2: I don't know, the main experience. They do a fun job.
- 8:55Speaker 2: They're really fun to listen to. Schoolhoppers. Definitely check them
- 8:58Speaker 2: out and if you can, head on out to that
- 9:00Speaker 2: live event in Bellevue bell is Correct on January eighteenth.
- 9:05Speaker 2: I'm really excited for that, Forrest, You're more than welcome
- 9:07Speaker 2: to join us for that. That'd be great. It should
- 9:10Speaker 2: be a good time.
- 9:11Speaker 1: Cool. Well, let's uh, let's crack these open and the
- 9:14Speaker 1: enjoy some beer.
- 9:15Speaker 2: All right, Well, I already cracked mine, but I'm ready
- 9:18Speaker 2: to scull it up to you guys.
- 9:20Speaker 1: I'm gonna pour mine quick.
- 9:21Speaker 2: Hang on, Okay, yeah you mean no glass, Austin, no glass.
- 9:27Speaker 2: I thought about it, but yeah, I just sometimes the
- 9:30Speaker 2: can you just gotta can it up? You up the beer. Breathe,
- 9:34Speaker 2: it's been breathing. I opened it for a minute.
- 9:37Speaker 1: I am sitting here in our studio where we have
- 9:41Speaker 1: glasses available always. Yoh, all right, here we go, all right,
- 9:47Speaker 1: school school, Yeah.
- 9:55Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Oh my goodness. This this is the perfect
- 10:00Speaker 2: coffee mint Noah, I love it. If you've had Tip
- 10:04Speaker 2: the Cow, you know it well. It's It's a beautiful
- 10:06Speaker 2: coffee beer. And I love a mint flavor too, so
- 10:10Speaker 2: usually my coffee flavor just has to be hot and black.
- 10:12Speaker 2: But this, man, this is delicious. I love it so much.
- 10:15Speaker 2: So what do you guys think of your beers? I mean,
- 10:19Speaker 2: had in mind before. It's always a good one. Do
- 10:21Speaker 2: you like hazelnut coffee?
- 10:24Speaker 3: Definitely gets like a Scottish red ale, so it's more
- 10:28Speaker 3: than just a stouter or just a blond, so adds
- 10:31Speaker 3: a little maltiness to it. It's fantastic, awesome, nice.
- 10:35Speaker 1: Yeah, this is really good. I really only had just
- 10:39Speaker 1: a sip of the foam on the floor there, but
- 10:43Speaker 1: I'm sure as that comes down a little bit, I'll
- 10:45Speaker 1: get more into the body of the beer. But you
- 10:48Speaker 1: can already just taste the vanilla, and that's what I
- 10:51Speaker 1: liked about it. The vanilla really kind of mellows things
- 10:53Speaker 1: out and makes it a really delightful beer. So I'm excited.
- 11:00Speaker 2: Awesome, all right, well we'll be stipping on those. We
- 11:03Speaker 2: might give more opinions here later in the episode, but yeah,
- 11:06Speaker 2: some it sounds like three solid beers so far, so
- 11:09Speaker 2: that's pretty cool. Another thing that's pretty cool is the
- 11:13Speaker 2: NFC North kind of kind of went the way of
- 11:16Speaker 2: the Vikings this weekend. Right now, the Vikings and Bears
- 11:20Speaker 2: are playing, which it's still thirteen nothing right now with
- 11:24Speaker 2: thirteen minutes left in the third quarter, and it looks
- 11:26Speaker 2: like the Bears they've just had a hold for a sack.
- 11:29Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm trying not to pay too much
- 11:31Speaker 2: attention so that I can be an active podcaster. But
- 11:37Speaker 2: the Lions they lost. They lost for just the second
- 11:40Speaker 2: time this season to the Bills in a game that
- 11:44Speaker 2: maybe it felt like it was closer than it was
- 11:47Speaker 2: the whole time. I enjoyed watching that game. It was fun,
- 11:52Speaker 2: especially since the Bills basically had to lead the whole time.
- 11:56Speaker 2: And I loved it. I loved it so much. And
- 11:58Speaker 2: the Packers, yeah they won, which we never root for,
- 12:01Speaker 2: but mathematically because they won and beat the Seahawks. It
- 12:06Speaker 2: technically locked up that final domino for the Vikings.
- 12:09Speaker 3: You can say it, Austin, you you were a slide
- 12:13Speaker 3: a smidge rooting for the Packers for Vikings purposes.
- 12:19Speaker 2: Well kind of, because yes, the Vikings did lock up
- 12:21Speaker 2: a playoff spot. They've clinched. We don't know what seed yet.
- 12:25Speaker 2: It seems like it's either going to be the one
- 12:26Speaker 2: seed or the five seed, and those are really the
- 12:28Speaker 2: only choices right now. But yeah, the Packers winning did
- 12:32Speaker 2: lock that up for the Vikings. But I mean I
- 12:34Speaker 2: wasn't rooting for that because I knew the Vikings they
- 12:38Speaker 2: hold their own destiny. So I mean, if the Packers
- 12:42Speaker 2: didn't do it, then the Vikings winning their next game
- 12:44Speaker 2: probably would have done it. So yeah, I still always
- 12:48Speaker 2: root against the Packers, and that one wasn't too hard
- 12:50Speaker 2: because it wasn't like the Vikings needed the Packers to win.
- 12:53Speaker 2: It was their only hope. It just happened.
- 12:56Speaker 3: I mean, you're still talking. I mean potentially you don't
- 12:58Speaker 3: know how the rest of the season's and go seating
- 13:00Speaker 3: and everything. I mean, putting putting distance between you and
- 13:05Speaker 3: another teams.
- 13:06Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, I agree, although I would have I'd
- 13:09Speaker 2: argue that putting distance between the Vikings and the Packers
- 13:12Speaker 2: would be good right now, and they're what technically as
- 13:15Speaker 2: of right now just a game back though you're too.
- 13:19Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought your two games only.
- 13:22Speaker 2: Well, right now, the Packers have ten wins, the Vikings
- 13:25Speaker 2: have eleven as things sit this moment, so for the
- 13:28Speaker 2: listeners in the future, they know exactly how it sits,
- 13:31Speaker 2: but technically one game ahead. And then the Vikings beat
- 13:35Speaker 2: the Packers earlier this year, so a game and a
- 13:37Speaker 2: half as things sit this very second, eleven ones they
- 13:41Speaker 2: do right now.
- 13:42Speaker 3: Thanks, just said ten.
- 13:43Speaker 2: So I may have misspokes and I don't know there's
- 13:47Speaker 2: keep you.
- 13:48Speaker 3: I gotta keep you on on your own team here.
- 13:50Speaker 2: We're also all watching a football game right now.
- 13:53Speaker 1: So I think the I texted this to Austin yesterday.
- 13:57Speaker 1: I said, I would rather see the the Vikings clinch
- 14:03Speaker 1: on their own rather than rely on the Packers to
- 14:07Speaker 1: essentially clinch for the Vikings. And I think this Vikings
- 14:13Speaker 1: team wants to do that. They want to take what's
- 14:17Speaker 1: out there for them and not just, you know, rely
- 14:20Speaker 1: on what other teams in the league can do. So, yeah,
- 14:23Speaker 1: the Packers won, and yes, that clinched a playoff spot
- 14:26Speaker 1: for the Vikings, but that didn't I don't think that
- 14:29Speaker 1: changed anything about the game plan for tonight's game against
- 14:33Speaker 1: the Bears. I think McDonnell and the rest of the
- 14:35Speaker 1: team are still trying to win this game and win
- 14:39Speaker 1: the rest of their games because if they win the
- 14:41Speaker 1: rest of their games, they're likely the number one seed.
- 14:45Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty sure as the way things sit right now,
- 14:49Speaker 2: if the Vikings went out, they will be the number
- 14:52Speaker 2: one seed in the NFC.
- 14:54Speaker 1: I think even if the Eagles went out, the Vikings
- 14:57Speaker 1: are still the number one seed because I think they
- 14:59Speaker 1: hold the tie breaker over the Eagles. I could be wrong,
- 15:02Speaker 1: but I think that's the way I see it.
- 15:04Speaker 2: Right now, and in theory, even though the Lions and
- 15:10Speaker 2: the Vikings had the same number of wins right now,
- 15:13Speaker 2: or would they would have the same number of wins
- 15:16Speaker 2: at the Vikings beat the Bears tonight, In theory, if
- 15:20Speaker 2: the Vikings went out, that means they have beaten the
- 15:22Speaker 2: Lions in Week eighteen for the division and for the
- 15:25Speaker 2: number one seed. So as of right now, that Week
- 15:28Speaker 2: eighteen game, that Vikings Lions Week eighteen game, that's huge.
- 15:32Speaker 2: That's setting up to be the biggest game of the season,
- 15:35Speaker 2: one for all the marbles, and again, as things sit
- 15:38Speaker 2: right now, already that game doesn't matter for either the
- 15:42Speaker 2: Lions or Vikings playoff chances because they both already clinched,
- 15:45Speaker 2: which is kind of crazy to say, you know, mid December,
- 15:50Speaker 2: I wonder when the last time, maybe nine, the last
- 15:52Speaker 2: time the Vikings clinched a playoff spot by this time
- 15:55Speaker 2: of the year. It's pretty pretty fun.
- 15:58Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, and makes you know, the rest of
- 16:02Speaker 1: the game is even more interesting because now it's like, what,
- 16:06Speaker 1: what's the seeding going to be?
- 16:07Speaker 2: Like?
- 16:08Speaker 1: Where I mean, the the excitement and the drama isn't over.
- 16:12Speaker 1: It's not just you know, rest the starters and circle
- 16:16Speaker 1: up the wagons until the playoff starts. You know, it's
- 16:20Speaker 1: you gotta keep winning, and you gotta you know, keep
- 16:24Speaker 1: grinding away at things, and you got to prepare for
- 16:27Speaker 1: any situation playing wild card weekend or resting up and
- 16:31Speaker 1: playing in the divisional round. So there's there's a whole
- 16:34Speaker 1: lot of excitement left in the Viking season.
- 16:37Speaker 2: Absolutely forrest as a Bears fan and not you know,
- 16:43Speaker 2: in the trenches of rooting and super biased as a
- 16:46Speaker 2: Vikings fan. Who do you think, and be honest, at
- 16:50Speaker 2: this moment, who would you guess gets that number one
- 16:54Speaker 2: seed in the NFC, Because I mean it's really there's
- 16:57Speaker 2: a handful of teams that could make their way up
- 16:59Speaker 2: into that.
- 17:00Speaker 3: That's a that's a it's a tough one. I think
- 17:02Speaker 3: there it's a three way race, and I'm just I mean,
- 17:06Speaker 3: I think it's the easy answers cop out. But you
- 17:10Speaker 3: got the Lions, the Vikings, and the Eagles. I think
- 17:14Speaker 3: are I mean you see it day game after game,
- 17:18Speaker 3: week after week. They're they're all playing at high levels.
- 17:23Speaker 2: I know. I mean the.
- 17:26Speaker 3: Lions lost yesterday, but I mean they they lost to
- 17:30Speaker 3: a good Bills team. Well, I mean and they Yeah,
- 17:33Speaker 3: I think the Bills were in control basically for the game,
- 17:37Speaker 3: but I mean the Lions came close. And yeah, it's
- 17:44Speaker 3: gonna it's gonna be fun. Like you said, if your
- 17:46Speaker 3: prediction comes true where the NFC North comes down to
- 17:50Speaker 3: Week eighteen, it's gonna be fun to to see how
- 17:53Speaker 3: that plays out. I could see one of the two teams,
- 17:57Speaker 3: the Vikings or Lions, playing for that number one.
- 17:59Speaker 2: See that.
- 18:00Speaker 3: I think the Eagles are good, but I could see
- 18:04Speaker 3: them losing again before so yep, Yeah.
- 18:07Speaker 2: I mean the Eagles are definitely a dominant team right now,
- 18:10Speaker 2: although I think any team has their weaknesses. I think
- 18:15Speaker 2: if someone figures out how to hold Saquon Barkley to
- 18:20Speaker 2: just normal human stats and not Superman's stats, then they
- 18:24Speaker 2: might have a chance of beating the Eagles. But I
- 18:27Speaker 2: mean you could say that about every team. If somebody
- 18:29Speaker 2: stops Justin Jefferson from catching a ball, they might be
- 18:33Speaker 2: the Vikings. You know, there's always that something, yeah, for
- 18:36Speaker 2: every team. But yeah, I.
- 18:38Speaker 3: Mean that's why they're all contenders. They have good playmakers.
- 18:42Speaker 3: They have you know, those those players that just can
- 18:47Speaker 3: go off in one second and really make a difference
- 18:50Speaker 3: for your team.
- 18:51Speaker 1: So one of those, one of those playmakers for the
- 18:54Speaker 1: Lions injured and probably won't be back this season, David
- 18:59Speaker 1: Montgomery going down or something like that.
- 19:02Speaker 3: Yeah, you got him. And then what their their lineman O'Neill.
- 19:07Speaker 1: Yeah, man, maybe not O'Neill, but i'll be McNeil.
- 19:12Speaker 3: I think I know McNeil just crazy.
- 19:17Speaker 1: I mean, are already banged up to start.
- 19:22Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see what the Lions do because
- 19:25Speaker 3: I mean, as good as Gibbs, this is running back.
- 19:28Speaker 3: He is not a thunder, you know, a pounded type
- 19:31Speaker 3: running back. And uh, it'll be interesting to see what
- 19:33Speaker 3: the Lions do for for the remainders of the season.
- 19:38Speaker 1: They're gonna rely on Jamior Gibbs a whole lot more,
- 19:40Speaker 1: I'm sure.
- 19:41Speaker 3: Well they have to, and he's a fantastic, dynamic player,
- 19:45Speaker 3: but sometimes you just need a player to run it
- 19:49Speaker 3: down the throat and you need a little more weight, power,
- 19:53Speaker 3: bruiser back to do that.
- 19:55Speaker 2: So I agree. I might be in the minority, but
- 19:59Speaker 2: I think a loss of Montgomery for the Lions, while
- 20:03Speaker 2: it's it's no small thing because Montgomery is very big
- 20:06Speaker 2: and very good. He's been a very big part of
- 20:08Speaker 2: that team. I think they're going to be able to
- 20:12Speaker 2: figure that out. The rest of the offense is pretty great.
- 20:17Speaker 2: Their their offensive coordinator is showing to be an elite
- 20:20Speaker 2: offensive mind. And I don't think I'm breaking any news
- 20:24Speaker 2: or you know, saying anything you guys can't agree with
- 20:26Speaker 2: and saying that losing one although very good player, the
- 20:32Speaker 2: rest of the Lions are good enough to overcome that.
- 20:34Speaker 2: So it's interesting to see if they do that.
- 20:36Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they'll be fine overall, but they definitely
- 20:39Speaker 3: have to change some of their schemes and play calling.
- 20:42Speaker 3: You know, they had so many play calls that were
- 20:46Speaker 3: involved with David Montgomery, So.
- 20:48Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely well. And yeah, the Lions, they've been riddled
- 20:52Speaker 2: with injury, you know, at big points throughout the season,
- 20:58Speaker 2: not the least of all. Aiden Hutchins has been out
- 21:00Speaker 2: a lot of the season and it doesn't seem to
- 21:02Speaker 2: have been you know, a season ender for the team overall.
- 21:06Speaker 2: So they're a good team. I don't think there's any
- 21:09Speaker 2: question about that. And you know, dealing with the injuries
- 21:12Speaker 2: they have, then maybe it'll be one of those where,
- 21:14Speaker 2: you know, the final straw that breaks the Camels back
- 21:18Speaker 2: ultimately hits them. But as of right now, I'm not
- 21:21Speaker 2: saying that they're done. You know, they haven't lost the
- 21:23Speaker 2: one good player they have, so it'll it'll still be
- 21:26Speaker 2: a good season. I kind of think they will win
- 21:29Speaker 2: out until that Week eighteen game. I kind of think
- 21:32Speaker 2: that about the Vikings as well. So it'll be fun
- 21:35Speaker 2: to follow these next few weeks.
- 21:37Speaker 3: Absolutely so.
- 21:42Speaker 1: Focusing in on the game that's currently happening right now.
- 21:46Speaker 1: I mean, even though by the time this is published
- 21:49Speaker 1: and people are listening to it, the game will be
- 21:52Speaker 1: old news and we'll have a clear winner and a
- 21:55Speaker 1: clear loser. Hopefully not a tie because that would be
- 21:57Speaker 1: disappointing for everybody. But there are still I think some
- 22:03Speaker 1: concerns for this Vikings team. I mean, the Vikings are
- 22:05Speaker 1: currently winning thirteen zero. Sam Donald is struggling tonight, like
- 22:11Speaker 1: he's just he's not finding the open guy. He's overthrowing
- 22:15Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson on some big plays, not just him, Jordan
- 22:19Speaker 1: Addison He's overthrown a few times. Dj Howkinson as well.
- 22:24Speaker 1: He's made some good throws tonight too, But it just
- 22:28Speaker 1: maybe it's those five touchdowns from last week against the
- 22:31Speaker 1: Falcons that kind of have him, you know, in a
- 22:35Speaker 1: quarterback hangover, so to speak.
- 22:37Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and we're sitting here with ten and a
- 22:41Speaker 2: half minutes left in the third quarter. Sam Donald's already
- 22:44Speaker 2: thrown thirty passes.
- 22:46Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's maybe his highest his highest attempt number
- 22:52Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to say.
- 22:53Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely definitely one of them, if not the highest.
- 22:56Speaker 2: So he's seventeen or thirty right now for one hundred
- 22:59Speaker 2: and fifty seven yards. It's a touchdown, and that fourth
- 23:02Speaker 2: down pretty not great interception, but one that was essentially
- 23:07Speaker 2: a punt too. But yeah, I mean the Vikings they
- 23:10Speaker 2: kind of started off with a bang. It seemed like,
- 23:13Speaker 2: oh and here's another free play for the Bears. Seemed
- 23:16Speaker 2: like the Vikings are gonna come out and just dominate
- 23:19Speaker 2: this whole game. It was ten to nothing pretty quick.
- 23:23Speaker 2: And then yeah, ever since Justin Jefferson's just weird drop
- 23:30Speaker 2: that you'll never see more than once or twice in
- 23:33Speaker 2: his career. If he wouldn't have had that huge drop,
- 23:35Speaker 2: he probably would have caught it and scored a touchdown
- 23:38Speaker 2: or maybe even dropped, you know, a yard away from
- 23:40Speaker 2: the end zone. Ever since, that dropped the Vikings offense
- 23:43Speaker 2: kind of like froze. It's kind of like they flinched
- 23:46Speaker 2: and they they've stalled really ever since then. And now
- 23:52Speaker 2: the Bears here as I'm saying this, they got a
- 23:55Speaker 2: free play, but it didn't matter because Caleb Williams threw
- 23:58Speaker 2: it for what looked like twenty thirty yards cards to Romadonza.
- 24:01Speaker 2: Now the Bears are at the uh inside the thirty
- 24:05Speaker 2: yard line of the Vikings. So this is turning.
- 24:09Speaker 3: There a few times all right to night, and with
- 24:13Speaker 3: no success.
- 24:14Speaker 2: That's true. I will say the Vikings defense has overall
- 24:16Speaker 2: looked pretty awesome this game. They they have made it
- 24:21Speaker 2: tough for Caleb Williams to look comfortable outside of one
- 24:24Speaker 2: or two or three plays here and there. Yeah, the
- 24:27Speaker 2: Vikings defense is what's keeping them in the game right now.
- 24:30Speaker 2: And there's still there's still plenty of time against the Falcons.
- 24:34Speaker 2: Last week, the Vikings didn't really explode until late in
- 24:36Speaker 2: the third quarters. So well, we'll see how this, how
- 24:39Speaker 2: this goes, Maybe the offense can get the the break
- 24:43Speaker 2: or the you know, mental clarity that they need on
- 24:46Speaker 2: the sideline really quick.
- 24:47Speaker 3: Here.
- 24:48Speaker 1: Something that I was I was pounding the table when
- 24:51Speaker 1: I was watching the first half after Jefferson dropped that
- 24:56Speaker 1: like just it was gonna be a touchdown. It looks like,
- 24:58Speaker 1: I mean, he was within the he was inside the
- 25:00Speaker 1: five yard line. He would have made a move on
- 25:03Speaker 1: the defender that was there and he would have scored easily.
- 25:08Speaker 1: I was pounding the table in that moment. Go back
- 25:11Speaker 1: to him, you know, drop the same exact play and
- 25:15Speaker 1: let it restore his confidence almost immediately. And Kevin O'Connell
- 25:20Speaker 1: has done that from time to time. I remember earlier
- 25:24Speaker 1: this season they tried that pitch play to Aaron Jones
- 25:27Speaker 1: on like one of the first plays of the game.
- 25:29Speaker 1: It was a fumble, and he went right back to it,
- 25:32Speaker 1: I think on the next offensive possession. It was successful
- 25:35Speaker 1: and the Vikings won the game. And same thing with
- 25:40Speaker 1: Aaron Jones fumbling a few weeks ago. He gave Aaron
- 25:45Speaker 1: Jones the opportunity to go out and win the game
- 25:47Speaker 1: on the last play, sealed the deal. So I was
- 25:52Speaker 1: pounding the table for that, like, go back to Justin Jefferson,
- 25:56Speaker 1: get him another touch on a similar opportunity, and and
- 25:59Speaker 1: get that, you know, kind of off of everybody's mind,
- 26:02Speaker 1: because I'm sure I'm sure everybody in that stadium was
- 26:08Speaker 1: a little aghast at the fact that Justin Jefferson dropped that.
- 26:11Speaker 3: I think Evan, I kind of agree more with you
- 26:15Speaker 3: on like, I don't understand why coaches like what was
- 26:19Speaker 3: working early on in a game and then they like
- 26:22Speaker 3: forget about the rest of the game. And I'll be
- 26:27Speaker 3: not to bring it back to the college level, and
- 26:29Speaker 3: not back to Michigan, but Michigan o house state game.
- 26:32Speaker 3: How to state Early Onwarre was just throwing easy sideline passes.
- 26:35Speaker 3: They were getting first down after first down, and then
- 26:38Speaker 3: after like the first core they stopped doing that, and
- 26:41Speaker 3: it's just like, that's how they lost the game. And
- 26:43Speaker 3: now I'm not saying the Vikings are going to lose
- 26:46Speaker 3: this game. I'm saying, why do coaches forget what was working,
- 26:51Speaker 3: you know early on in the game. Go back to it.
- 26:54Speaker 1: To your point, I watched an interesting documentary not too
- 26:59Speaker 1: long ago about it was about the signs stealing allegations
- 27:03Speaker 1: at Michigan. Yeah, and it was just interesting because you know,
- 27:09Speaker 1: I think was this the first season that college quarterbacks
- 27:12Speaker 1: had a radio in their headset up until this year?
- 27:18Speaker 1: Games games could change as soon as the opposing team
- 27:22Speaker 1: figured out the signs from the other team. And it
- 27:25Speaker 1: wasn't just Michigan, it was everybody. It was just Michigan
- 27:28Speaker 1: kind of got caught doing it, you know. And I'm
- 27:33Speaker 1: not trying to throw shade at Michigan.
- 27:36Speaker 3: You know, this is a whole different conversation. So I
- 27:40Speaker 3: don't disagree with with what you're saying, Evan. There's just
- 27:43Speaker 3: a lot to unpack, but that's for a different.
- 27:46Speaker 1: Episode, Yeah, for sure. But I just think there's a
- 27:48Speaker 1: difference between at least the college game prior to this season,
- 27:52Speaker 1: and the pro game has been for a long time.
- 27:57Speaker 1: So you know the fact that the coach can talk
- 28:00Speaker 1: directly to the quarterback on offense, and in defense, they
- 28:04Speaker 1: can talk to somebody on the defense, usually a linebacker.
- 28:09Speaker 1: You know, it's beneficial because then there are no signs
- 28:13Speaker 1: on the sideline. It's you know, that one guy who's
- 28:17Speaker 1: on the field with everybody, directing traffic and making sure
- 28:20Speaker 1: he makes the right calls and relays the message. And
- 28:25Speaker 1: it's up to the other guys to you know, know
- 28:27Speaker 1: their coverages and know where they need to be and
- 28:30Speaker 1: know their spots all that good stuff. So but yeah,
- 28:35Speaker 1: I think, you know, gas games develop and change over time.
- 28:39Speaker 1: I think the pro game develops differently than the college game, does.
- 28:43Speaker 1: I guess the long winded point I'm trying to make.
- 28:47Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, in the last couple of minutes here the
- 28:49Speaker 2: Bears DeAndre Swift has scored a touchdown on a short
- 28:53Speaker 2: run at the goal line, but that was negated by
- 28:56Speaker 2: a weird penalty where an offensive lineman came in lined
- 28:59Speaker 2: up at hold back, but he was called I think
- 29:02Speaker 2: it was illegal procedure or whatever procedure. Yeah, he didn't
- 29:06Speaker 2: declare as a receiver, so that negated that touchdown run.
- 29:11Speaker 2: And then the Bears had a couple of plays and
- 29:14Speaker 2: they got close. They were back within you know, the
- 29:16Speaker 2: two or three yard line of the scoring a touchdown here,
- 29:20Speaker 2: and then a holding penalty on the Bears again. So
- 29:24Speaker 2: now I think it's third, third down, third goal.
- 29:28Speaker 3: But long they're on like the fifteen yard line.
- 29:31Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're just inside the fifteen yard line.
- 29:33Speaker 2: So after scoring a touchdown and two big mistakes, and
- 29:38Speaker 2: I think the only mistake for that Bear that got
- 29:40Speaker 2: called on the touchdown run was that he didn't, you know,
- 29:43Speaker 2: report as eligible. Yeah, I think other than that, he
- 29:46Speaker 2: didn't do anything wrong, which is a heartbreaker. And I
- 29:48Speaker 2: mean it's technically against the rules, but man, I'd be
- 29:52Speaker 2: I'd be really upset. And now it looks like the
- 29:55Speaker 2: Vikings just held the Bears here to a fourth and
- 29:58Speaker 2: goal killer Williams. Can't he every time he looks up,
- 30:02Speaker 2: he's got you know, face, hands in his face.
- 30:05Speaker 3: It's and I'm giving some credit to the Vikings, but man,
- 30:09Speaker 3: that bears a line just horrendous.
- 30:12Speaker 2: It's Yeah, it's been all year and how much can
- 30:16Speaker 2: you expect, truthfully, And this is I'm not trying to
- 30:18Speaker 2: you know, top crap or anything, but as far as
- 30:21Speaker 2: penalties go on, as far as like schemes go, how
- 30:24Speaker 2: much can you expect from a team who's head coach
- 30:27Speaker 2: right now was like less than their offensive coordinator just
- 30:31Speaker 2: a month or so ago. Yeah, and the Bears did
- 30:33Speaker 2: kick a field goal to make it thirteen to three.
- 30:37Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, I mean crazyess, I mean a
- 30:39Speaker 3: lot of things could have played out, but if the
- 30:41Speaker 3: Bears were elected to kick the field goal on those
- 30:43Speaker 3: other two, it could have been thirteen to nine. Just
- 30:47Speaker 3: thrown out the possible.
- 30:48Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, this is a close game. Yeah. Of course,
- 30:51Speaker 2: on that third down play that turned it into fourth down,
- 30:54Speaker 2: the TV just just played a slow mow replay a
- 30:59Speaker 2: defender swiping down. I saw that grabbing callable and space mask,
- 31:04Speaker 2: so something the Vikings have had happened to save Darnald
- 31:07Speaker 2: a couple of times this season. Now we just see
- 31:09Speaker 2: it not get called against the Vikings who were who
- 31:13Speaker 2: did that illegally as well? So I guess as long
- 31:17Speaker 2: as the refs are bad for everybody, how much can
- 31:19Speaker 2: you really complain? But yeah, I did.
- 31:23Speaker 3: Against my team, I'll complain.
- 31:25Speaker 1: I saw something and I guess I didn't really realize
- 31:29Speaker 1: this happened. They moved whatever referee it is that stands
- 31:34Speaker 1: in the backfield, they moved them to a different spot.
- 31:37Speaker 1: And that was the justification for why so many of
- 31:41Speaker 1: these penalties, Not the justification from the league or from
- 31:44Speaker 1: the officials or anything, but just somebody connected the dots,
- 31:49Speaker 1: probably out on the Twitter verse somewhere, that they moved
- 31:53Speaker 1: that official and so they're not getting the same perspective
- 31:57Speaker 1: on those types of plays as they normally got before
- 32:00Speaker 1: this season. And that makes sense to me, Like if
- 32:02Speaker 1: you move a guy into a different position and their
- 32:06Speaker 1: job is to watch something but they can't see because
- 32:09Speaker 1: you move them, well, then they're not going to see
- 32:12Speaker 1: the things that they need to see. So perhaps that's
- 32:14Speaker 1: a change that NFL officiating needs to make.
- 32:18Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's something they have done or changed.
- 32:25Speaker 2: You're feeling a tangible difference in NFL officiating overall this season.
- 32:30Speaker 2: I think everyone who has been paying attention to the NFL.
- 32:34Speaker 2: And I'm not saying, oh, the Vikings got robbed for
- 32:36Speaker 2: a couple of wins because of the refs, but I
- 32:38Speaker 2: think officiating overall in the NFL is just not great.
- 32:43Speaker 2: This year, I think every team has been blatantly robbed
- 32:47Speaker 2: on a player two or a game or two. I
- 32:50Speaker 2: think you're seeing just terrible officiating across the board. And
- 32:56Speaker 2: maybe it is one of those things where they strategically
- 32:59Speaker 2: moved around from this spot to this spot and it's
- 33:04Speaker 2: causing confusion or they're not seeing the things that they
- 33:07Speaker 2: normally see. I know they always talk about every year like, oh,
- 33:11Speaker 2: the rest are emphasizing this kind of a call this year.
- 33:15Speaker 2: So maybe it's just the fact that they're this year,
- 33:18Speaker 2: they're emphasizing, emphasizing something that they haven't really talked about,
- 33:22Speaker 2: and it's you know, coming at the cost of being
- 33:25Speaker 2: able to clearly see other plays. I don't know, but.
- 33:28Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the thing awesome. I'm I always hear
- 33:31Speaker 3: that every season they're gonna emphasize on a few calls
- 33:35Speaker 3: or plays that they're seeing, penalties that they're seeing. But
- 33:38Speaker 3: when you're emphasizing on others, what's being suffered in that
- 33:43Speaker 3: because it's it's just unfortunate. And like you said that,
- 33:47Speaker 3: we always say it's a human game, and there's always
- 33:50Speaker 3: gonna be human error. You just always hope it's not
- 33:53Speaker 3: gonna be against your team.
- 33:54Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, yep, exactly. And that's why I mean, every
- 34:01Speaker 2: time we talk about the Ress, I say, overall, I'm
- 34:03Speaker 2: usually a big fan of them. I think more often
- 34:06Speaker 2: than not, it's crazy how how many calls they get right.
- 34:09Speaker 2: Just this year, they're not getting them right, and I
- 34:11Speaker 2: think maybe they're they're advocating for more, more help from
- 34:16Speaker 2: New York and so they're blatantly just.
- 34:19Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I'm all for that, but that
- 34:21Speaker 3: at the same time, man, it if that's their their
- 34:25Speaker 3: defenses while we're just depending on New York to let's
- 34:30Speaker 3: buzz us on that, it's it's it's not the right mentality,
- 34:34Speaker 3: I don't think.
- 34:35Speaker 1: But so something I also saw is something the league
- 34:40Speaker 1: is considering is allowing an official that's not on the
- 34:44Speaker 1: field to throw a flag. What do you guys think
- 34:46Speaker 1: about that?
- 34:50Speaker 2: If a call is made correctly, I'm all for it.
- 34:54Speaker 2: If they call the game fairly, incorrectly, whatever they got
- 34:59Speaker 2: to do, then make their jobs as easily easy and
- 35:01Speaker 2: fair as possible, I'm all for it. I don't think
- 35:05Speaker 2: I think they've proven that New York can come into
- 35:07Speaker 2: a game without it being a five to ten minute
- 35:10Speaker 2: or deal, which I think nobody would like if we're
- 35:12Speaker 2: all just sitting around every two seconds for five minutes,
- 35:15Speaker 2: then we'd hate it. But New York seems to be
- 35:17Speaker 2: doing well, so yeah, I.
- 35:19Speaker 3: Mean, I think that's the big push is how can
- 35:23Speaker 3: you provide more support and make sure the call is
- 35:26Speaker 3: right without prolonging the game. I mean, no one wants
- 35:30Speaker 3: to sit around, And I think that's one thing I'd
- 35:33Speaker 3: say NFL does better than the college's college And it's
- 35:36Speaker 3: partially commercials and everything else broadcasting, but college game lasts
- 35:41Speaker 3: longer than the NFL game, and it's it's frustrating when
- 35:45Speaker 3: all you want to do is just watch a football
- 35:47Speaker 3: game in three hours and it's ends up being like
- 35:50Speaker 3: four hours, and it's it's frustrating.
- 35:54Speaker 2: Yep. I think it's it's plain to see right now
- 35:59Speaker 2: to the second half has has been a little ugly
- 36:01Speaker 2: for both teams, and the refs have been more prevalent
- 36:05Speaker 2: here so far in the last couple of minutes than
- 36:07Speaker 2: they have in the whole game. But I think both
- 36:10Speaker 2: teams which this game is not over by any stretch
- 36:12Speaker 2: of imagination. Five and a half minutes left, Vikings are
- 36:16Speaker 2: up thirteen to three. This game is not over. By
- 36:19Speaker 2: any means either team could easily win this game. And
- 36:21Speaker 2: I think if the Vikings want to win, scoring here
- 36:24Speaker 2: on this drive towards the end of the third quarter
- 36:27Speaker 2: is going to go a long ways and we're all
- 36:33Speaker 2: distracted here because we're watching.
- 36:36Speaker 3: In the field position.
- 36:38Speaker 1: So something just to tack on to that. Yeah, I
- 36:44Speaker 1: think New York has definitely played a bigger role recently
- 36:48Speaker 1: in the last several seasons, and it's been good. I think,
- 36:52Speaker 1: to have like almost completely disconnected video replay officials that
- 37:00Speaker 1: aren't even in the building and are just literally watching
- 37:04Speaker 1: TV like we are and go, oh, nope, that's a
- 37:07Speaker 1: past interference or that's his toe is on the line
- 37:11Speaker 1: or whatever. You know. I think that's good. My understanding
- 37:17Speaker 1: was that they would add like a handful of officials
- 37:23Speaker 1: in each stadium in like a video room somewhere, like,
- 37:27Speaker 1: not on the field. They've got TVs all around them
- 37:32Speaker 1: of just that game and they're you know, looking at
- 37:35Speaker 1: every single possible camera angle to make the right call.
- 37:39Speaker 2: Yeah, almost like a buffer between the field in New York,
- 37:43Speaker 2: like having a an in person New York you know, like, yeah, yeah,
- 37:47Speaker 2: that would be, that would be if.
- 37:49Speaker 1: That were the case, you know, the communication would be
- 37:52Speaker 1: even even quicker than going outside the stadium. Granted, we
- 37:56Speaker 1: live in a day and age where communication is instant,
- 37:59Speaker 1: and we're all sitting in the comfort of our own
- 38:01Speaker 1: homes and recording this podcast. That'll be you know, disseminated
- 38:07Speaker 1: in a lot of different places, and it'll be pretty
- 38:10Speaker 1: easy for us to do that. But I think it'll
- 38:13Speaker 1: just it'll speed things up just a little bit and
- 38:16Speaker 1: you'll have, you know, those officials that are if that's
- 38:19Speaker 1: the way it's going to work out. I don't know
- 38:21Speaker 1: if it will, but if that's the way it happens,
- 38:24Speaker 1: you'll have those officials like in those pregame meetings where
- 38:27Speaker 1: they talk about like, Okay, these are the things we're
- 38:29Speaker 1: on the lookout for. The Vikings are notorious for this
- 38:31Speaker 1: type of penalty, or the Bears are notorious for this
- 38:34Speaker 1: type of penalty. We're really gonna you know, hunker down
- 38:38Speaker 1: on these particular aspects of the game today. This is
- 38:43Speaker 1: what we want to be on the lookout for. You know,
- 38:46Speaker 1: we've talked with both coaches. They're aware of what we're
- 38:49Speaker 1: focusing on today.
- 38:50Speaker 2: You know, if you think about that past interference we
- 38:54Speaker 2: just saw.
- 38:56Speaker 3: It, Yeah, I don't like it, but whatever, I mean,
- 39:03Speaker 3: you're not gonna you're not gonna win. I thought it
- 39:06Speaker 3: was a good I mean yeah, maybe a little bit early.
- 39:12Speaker 2: It's hard that could have been a no call. The
- 39:17Speaker 2: Bears defender kind of pushed TJ. Hawkins.
- 39:19Speaker 3: I think that I think if anything, yeah, he pushed
- 39:22Speaker 3: a smidge. But going back to your comment of and
- 39:27Speaker 3: this will never happen obviously going backwards, but like thinking
- 39:32Speaker 3: of what if they just got rid of instant replay,
- 39:35Speaker 3: like like the old days. I mean, would we be
- 39:39Speaker 3: any worse or better? I mean, because we're talking right
- 39:42Speaker 3: now that you know with instant replay, we're gonna get
- 39:45Speaker 3: the call right, and it sometimes favors your team, favors
- 39:48Speaker 3: the other team. Well, the same thing applied without instant replay,
- 39:51Speaker 3: where you got some benefit calls, sometimes you didn't get
- 39:54Speaker 3: the benefit of the call. So where from my standpoint,
- 39:58Speaker 3: where did what what efficient did we gain? Do we
- 40:01Speaker 3: honestly think we've gotten better from a I would hope
- 40:06Speaker 3: so with insto replay, But it seems like we still
- 40:08Speaker 3: get enough either enough calls wrong on his replay or
- 40:12Speaker 3: there are calls that cannot be used for instant replay.
- 40:15Speaker 3: So it's just like it went for me some games.
- 40:19Speaker 3: I'd rather just not even have any of it and
- 40:21Speaker 3: just let let bygones be bygones. I mean really, so well,
- 40:26Speaker 3: that's an interesting take, but Forrest, I disagree with you.
- 40:30Speaker 2: Evan, what were you gonna say?
- 40:31Speaker 1: I was just gonnay. I will say I've noticed, probably
- 40:35Speaker 1: in the last two seasons, and I've been watching the
- 40:37Speaker 1: NFL very regularly for fifteen to twenty years of my life,
- 40:43Speaker 1: very attentively, I should say, for quite a while now.
- 40:47Speaker 1: I've noticed the past few years the reps in the
- 40:51Speaker 1: NFL are getting better at allowing plays to just play
- 40:57Speaker 1: out and not blowing the whistle right away. As soon
- 41:00Speaker 1: as the whistle's blown, the play's dead. The play has
- 41:02Speaker 1: to stop.
- 41:03Speaker 3: M h.
- 41:04Speaker 1: And there are certain plays where like it's those questionable
- 41:08Speaker 1: ones where was the quarterback's arm moving forward or not?
- 41:12Speaker 1: And was it a fumble or an incomplete pass? They
- 41:16Speaker 1: let the play play out, you know, the defense scoops
- 41:18Speaker 1: it up, runs it back, they do their whole celebration,
- 41:21Speaker 1: and then they go back and look at it because
- 41:22Speaker 1: they didn't blow the whistle and rule that you know, Nope,
- 41:25Speaker 1: his arm wasn't moving forward and actually moving backwards. That's
- 41:29Speaker 1: a fumble, and you know they wipe the you know,
- 41:33Speaker 1: scoop and score off the scoreboard, and the defense has
- 41:36Speaker 1: to you know, swallow their pride with their wonderful celebration
- 41:39Speaker 1: that they did. And I've actually appreciated that, and it
- 41:44Speaker 1: has happened to the Vikings a few times too in
- 41:46Speaker 1: the last several years.
- 41:48Speaker 3: I would I would didn't agree and I want to
- 41:50Speaker 3: get off and I wasn't saying we should go back
- 41:53Speaker 3: to bring up the just playing Devil's Advocate. But either way,
- 41:58Speaker 3: I think my my beat with the whole industr replay
- 42:02Speaker 3: is not being able to use it for more And
- 42:07Speaker 3: it all goes back to how much do we want
- 42:09Speaker 3: to slow up the game. But you can look at
- 42:12Speaker 3: basically any play and be like, well, they got the
- 42:15Speaker 3: call wrong, so why can't we use in story play
- 42:18Speaker 3: to reverse that? It's why is it so that certain
- 42:23Speaker 3: players can use in some can't. And I know you
- 42:27Speaker 3: have to make draw a line somewhere, but I think
- 42:29Speaker 3: that's where my frustration lies is you're not getting enough
- 42:34Speaker 3: of the calls right, Let's put it that way.
- 42:36Speaker 2: So yep, I think ultimately we'll look back at this
- 42:40Speaker 2: year and probably even really the last I don't know,
- 42:43Speaker 2: five or ten years. We'll look back at this time
- 42:47Speaker 2: as like a weird limbo time where they were getting
- 42:51Speaker 2: it figured out. Between I think, you know, live on
- 42:56Speaker 2: field referees are necessary. This isn't baseball where you can
- 42:59Speaker 2: have a perfect computer looking at a strike zone and
- 43:03Speaker 2: you know, decide, you know, one hundred percent accurately. So
- 43:06Speaker 2: I think in football, live in person referees are definitely necessary.
- 43:11Speaker 2: But I also think it sounds like we all agree
- 43:14Speaker 2: that New York higher level common sense on you know videos,
- 43:20Speaker 2: that aspect is also necessary. And I just think the
- 43:23Speaker 2: last ten years and maybe the next couple of years
- 43:25Speaker 2: is going to be looked at as an era in
- 43:28Speaker 2: the NFL where they were getting it right, they were
- 43:30Speaker 2: knocking all the kinks out, and at some point we
- 43:33Speaker 2: will sit back and think, man, it's been a couple
- 43:35Speaker 2: of years since there's been an egregious call that totally
- 43:40Speaker 2: changed a game. I think we'll get to a point
- 43:44Speaker 2: where we're like between the real you know, in person
- 43:47Speaker 2: live refs AI technology and New York the people off
- 43:52Speaker 2: the field, but looking at the video, that mixture is
- 43:54Speaker 2: going to turn into a really good, accurate product as
- 43:59Speaker 2: far as you know, officiating a football game, and I
- 44:03Speaker 2: can't wait for that time.
- 44:06Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna change topics really quickly, just because
- 44:10Speaker 1: I saw they did a nice little tribute on the
- 44:12Speaker 1: broadcast there to a guy that had played a lot
- 44:18Speaker 1: of games in a Vikings uniform. Was very successful, and
- 44:22Speaker 1: I actually was the recipient of a pretty cool playing
- 44:26Speaker 1: card of this same player this week. I was gonna
- 44:29Speaker 1: show you guys this.
- 44:32Speaker 2: Oh who is it?
- 44:33Speaker 1: Of the tell those yeah, sorry listeners if you're just listening,
- 44:37Speaker 1: it's a Randy Moss card. I got it from my
- 44:40Speaker 1: brother in law. He's got quite a few sports cards
- 44:44Speaker 1: just sitting around, and he dug this one out this week.
- 44:47Speaker 1: I think this is from his second season, but it
- 44:51Speaker 1: also has his career stats on its cool. So yeah,
- 44:56Speaker 1: obviously Randy Moss going through some health struggles right now,
- 45:01Speaker 1: dealing with liver cancer. But yeah, I think there are
- 45:06Speaker 1: a lot of eighty four jerseys out there at US
- 45:09Speaker 1: Bank Stadium tonight, and Justin Jefferson gave him a little
- 45:12Speaker 1: tribute on his touchdown pass there in the first quarter,
- 45:16Speaker 1: which I thought was pretty cool too, especially for a
- 45:18Speaker 1: guy who's kind of following in Randy Moss's footsteps.
- 45:22Speaker 2: Yeah, you could say those things sit down right now.
- 45:26Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson, it's hard to say he's not already the
- 45:31Speaker 2: second or third best wide receiver in Vikings history. Yeah,
- 45:36Speaker 2: you've got Randy Moss, You've got Chris Carter. You can
- 45:38Speaker 2: never forget Hall of Fame number retired Chris Carter. He's
- 45:42Speaker 2: probably the best Vikings wide receiver if you really look
- 45:44Speaker 2: at just the team, Chris Carter is probably number one.
- 45:48Speaker 2: But as far as overall players, Randy Moss he's the goat.
- 45:51Speaker 2: Unfortunately never got a Super Bowl. But and it sounds
- 45:54Speaker 2: like in his cancer announcement, sounds like he's on the
- 45:58Speaker 2: up and up. Either he's already in remission or he's
- 46:01Speaker 2: on the way. So that's good to hear. You hope
- 46:04Speaker 2: he's okay. But yeah, that card's super cool. And what
- 46:06Speaker 2: a great time to get that.
- 46:09Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was definitely very timely. So anyways, looks
- 46:14Speaker 1: like the Vikings are knocking on the door here, which
- 46:17Speaker 1: is exciting.
- 46:18Speaker 2: Could go, yeah, describe. They've done a good job of
- 46:20Speaker 2: keeping Aaron Jones active and he's made a few plays
- 46:25Speaker 2: and there was a beautiful pass from Darnold to Jefferson
- 46:28Speaker 2: to get Jefferson down to like the one or two
- 46:30Speaker 2: yard line and Aaron Jones just punched it in for
- 46:32Speaker 2: a touchdown. For another show, Brian for a few weeks
- 46:37Speaker 2: was betting on Aaron Jones to score a touchdown multiple
- 46:40Speaker 2: weeks in a row. And I think he kind of
- 46:41Speaker 2: chipped off that bandwagon, but he'd be super happy right now.
- 46:45Speaker 1: Yeah, Aaron Jones got to do the bank vault there.
- 46:47Speaker 1: That was pretty fun. So Brian got or not? Brian?
- 46:53Speaker 2: Sorry you just mentioned Brian.
- 46:57Speaker 1: Forrest. I have a question for you. Yeah, who who's
- 47:02Speaker 1: leading the way in the Bears head coaching sweepstakes right now?
- 47:07Speaker 1: Or who who do you think is gonna take over
- 47:09Speaker 1: uh in that spot for the Bears next year.
- 47:15Speaker 3: It's a good question. I think it's it's gotta be
- 47:19Speaker 3: someone on the offensive side of the ball.
- 47:24Speaker 2: You think so, because Everfluse, was he an offensive mind
- 47:27Speaker 2: or he's a defense guy. Usually you see teams if
- 47:30Speaker 2: they have a defensive minded coach, they flip flop.
- 47:33Speaker 3: When they well, that's what I said. It's gonna be
- 47:34Speaker 3: an offensive guy. Just because of drafting Caleb Williams. They
- 47:39Speaker 3: want someone that's gonna mold him and showcase him to
- 47:44Speaker 3: his full capabilities. I don't know. I you know, for
- 47:51Speaker 3: me personally, I'm going to reach deep down into the
- 47:55Speaker 3: bag here. And this is out of left field that
- 48:00Speaker 3: I could see even a guy like Lincoln Riley come
- 48:04Speaker 3: from USC, Oh, come come. He's had success developing so
- 48:10Speaker 3: many quarterbacks that you now see in the NFL. That
- 48:16Speaker 3: would be my dark horse. I'd say, I know he's
- 48:20Speaker 3: got a nice job at USC, but they haven't been
- 48:25Speaker 3: winning enough. So in the USC has a strong tradition
- 48:28Speaker 3: of winning, so I I would say he's on the
- 48:32Speaker 3: hot seat. So if he's sees an opportunity to jump,
- 48:36Speaker 3: he might take it.
- 48:36Speaker 2: So yeah, there is one name I want to throw
- 48:40Speaker 2: out there.
- 48:41Speaker 3: Go for it.
- 48:42Speaker 2: He's an up and coming coach. He actually just took
- 48:45Speaker 2: over a different program, so I don't know how he
- 48:48Speaker 2: doing that. But there's a guy in Chapel Hill, North
- 48:51Speaker 2: Carolina who might you might want to take the leap
- 48:54Speaker 2: from college ball.
- 48:57Speaker 3: I have to address this. Have you seen all the
- 49:01Speaker 3: memes on this thing with going on.
- 49:03Speaker 2: I've seen a few, but I want to hear what you're.
- 49:05Speaker 3: Doing just the whole You know, him coaching and his girlfriend,
- 49:11Speaker 3: you know, attending classes and man, it's endless.
- 49:15Speaker 2: It's endless. So gus I was talking about Bill Belichick,
- 49:18Speaker 2: which I'd confused as to why he wanted to go
- 49:21Speaker 2: to the college ranks. But I did hear somebody somebody
- 49:24Speaker 2: somewhere Twitter or radio or whatever kind of question like
- 49:27Speaker 2: why would he go there? And somebody answered that like, well,
- 49:30Speaker 2: you know, he's he's wanted a job. He tried to
- 49:32Speaker 2: get the Falcon's job probably last year, and he wants
- 49:35Speaker 2: to work. And he probably just got a sense that
- 49:39Speaker 2: the NFL openings they weren't going to be interested, which
- 49:44Speaker 2: includes the Bears right now. So if if you believe that,
- 49:48Speaker 2: then you got to think for some reason, the Bears
- 49:49Speaker 2: probably gave him a sense of like probably not or
- 49:53Speaker 2: maybe maybe we'd interview you. I don't know, I don't
- 49:55Speaker 2: know why you wouldn't, Like he's one of the greatest
- 49:57Speaker 2: decorated coaches.
- 49:58Speaker 3: I mean, I would say, why why don't you interview him?
- 50:01Speaker 3: I just can't see him wanting to come to Chicago.
- 50:04Speaker 3: I mean, Chicago could be a really good job. I
- 50:07Speaker 3: mean it's a storied franchise, historical kind of like the
- 50:13Speaker 3: Lions were a few years ago. They're really they're hungry.
- 50:17Speaker 3: They're a hungry team. They're hungry.
- 50:19Speaker 2: Obviously, the GM is willing to wheel and deal and
- 50:22Speaker 2: make some moves. I think whoever coaches the Bears next
- 50:26Speaker 2: is walking into probably a pretty solid situation and could
- 50:32Speaker 2: do well either right away or you know, within a
- 50:35Speaker 2: couple of years. I really hope Detroit Lions offensive coordinator
- 50:40Speaker 2: Ben Johnson doesn't go there. I genuinely think the Lions
- 50:46Speaker 2: whole success is a mixture of Ben Johnson being a
- 50:50Speaker 2: genius and Dan Campbell being just crazy enough to not
- 50:56Speaker 2: care to do stuff like go for it on fourth
- 50:59Speaker 2: down in your own territory.
- 51:00Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, i'd be I think everyone every
- 51:04Speaker 3: Bears fan to be on the Ben Johnson camp. I
- 51:06Speaker 3: just don't foresee it happening going to her rival team.
- 51:11Speaker 3: It'd be awesome if he did come. Yeah, I don't know.
- 51:17Speaker 3: It's it's it's a tough one to call at this point.
- 51:20Speaker 3: I think, well, we have three openings right now.
- 51:26Speaker 2: Yeah, who is the Bears, the Saints, and the Jets.
- 51:29Speaker 2: And the Jets so far? And I was actually just
- 51:34Speaker 2: talking to a friend of the front of the show,
- 51:36Speaker 2: Brian about this the other day about like what other
- 51:38Speaker 2: openings could come up. Yeah, we couldn't really think of any.
- 51:41Speaker 2: I'm sure there's like a blatantly I.
- 51:43Speaker 3: Think I think me and you Austin have thrown out
- 51:45Speaker 3: names back. I think would be for yeah, everyone everyone.
- 51:49Speaker 3: I think everyone we mentioned we thought was safe enough.
- 51:52Speaker 3: We thought Doug Peterson the Jags is safe.
- 51:56Speaker 2: I guess yeah, you did say he might be the
- 51:58Speaker 2: only other one that might get fired.
- 52:00Speaker 3: That would be That would be my my top one
- 52:03Speaker 3: if if anybody is gonna get acts. But uh, you
- 52:07Speaker 3: never know, it's tough.
- 52:11Speaker 1: It's tough to act a guy that's won a super
- 52:13Speaker 1: Bowl though, even if he has only you know, one
- 52:18Speaker 1: a handful of games since he's been your head coach. Like,
- 52:21Speaker 1: there's there's a kind of a longer leash there probably
- 52:24Speaker 1: with a guy that has a ring over a guy
- 52:27Speaker 1: that doesn't.
- 52:27Speaker 3: I would probably there might be, there might be. I mean,
- 52:31Speaker 3: I mean, he's shown, like he said, not only does
- 52:33Speaker 3: he have the Super Bowl, but he's she's shown flashes.
- 52:37Speaker 3: I think injury has has played a part in the
- 52:41Speaker 3: demise of Jacksonville at times.
- 52:43Speaker 2: So yeah, so I I would argue with you just
- 52:48Speaker 2: a little bit on the mind of the next head
- 52:51Speaker 2: coach for the Bears. I think I don't know if
- 52:53Speaker 2: you were saying you wanted them to or you think
- 52:55Speaker 2: they will go offensive minded guy for their head coach.
- 53:00Speaker 2: I would think that you would want somebody who it
- 53:06Speaker 2: almost doesn't matter defense or offense, but you'd want to
- 53:10Speaker 2: make sure that that offensive coordinator knows what he's doing
- 53:14Speaker 2: with a quarterback, which is true for every team. But
- 53:17Speaker 2: when you have a guy like Caleb Williams who is
- 53:19Speaker 2: so young and so he's not he's.
- 53:21Speaker 3: Kind of that that that goes to my whole point.
- 53:25Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley worked with Caleb Williams at USC and at Oklahoma,
- 53:30Speaker 3: so this.
- 53:31Speaker 2: Was a head coach you got a lot to worry about.
- 53:33Speaker 3: Oh, I totally get you. But you have to build
- 53:36Speaker 3: a good staff around you, is I mean, you look,
- 53:39Speaker 3: you look at at certain teams and they just have
- 53:42Speaker 3: good coordinators and position coaches as well for the head
- 53:48Speaker 3: coach to do the whole overall leading of the team.
- 53:54Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, here we are. The third quarter
- 53:58Speaker 2: just ended. The Vikings are up twenty to three, but
- 54:02Speaker 2: the Bears are mounting a little bit of a nice
- 54:05Speaker 2: drive here towards the end of the at the end
- 54:07Speaker 2: of the third quarter. Sam Donald, he started the ball
- 54:10Speaker 2: quite a bit, thirty five times so far, He's twenty
- 54:13Speaker 2: thirty five one hundred and ninety one yards. He was
- 54:16Speaker 2: a yard away from a touchdown there, but Aaron Jones
- 54:18Speaker 2: punched it in another touchdown. He's already got one touchdown
- 54:22Speaker 2: an interception. But Evan, how do you see the rest
- 54:25Speaker 2: of this game going?
- 54:27Speaker 1: Well, I want to look up really quick, just because
- 54:29Speaker 1: I'm curious. I want to see Sam Donald's game log
- 54:33Speaker 1: for this year, and I want to see his attempts
- 54:35Speaker 1: in each game because I think he is approaching maybe
- 54:41Speaker 1: a season high in attempts. So he's got thirty five
- 54:45Speaker 1: attempts right now. He had thirty eight attempts against Jacksonville,
- 54:51Speaker 1: a game in which he didn't throw a touchdown at all.
- 54:54Speaker 2: Yeah for the three interceptions.
- 54:56Speaker 1: Yeah, three interceptions. Yeah, and the Vikings kicked Sam or
- 55:02Speaker 1: sorry not Sam will Record kicked four field goals to
- 55:07Speaker 1: win that game for the Vikings twelve to seven over
- 55:09Speaker 1: the Jaguars.
- 55:10Speaker 2: That was Parker Romo?
- 55:12Speaker 1: Was that Barker Romo?
- 55:13Speaker 2: Pretty sure? Hey?
- 55:14Speaker 3: Did you cut Romo?
- 55:16Speaker 1: Now?
- 55:16Speaker 3: That Rakers back?
- 55:17Speaker 2: I didn't do anything, well, did your team. Yeah, the
- 55:20Speaker 2: Vikings waived Romo that the Saturday, like last Saturday, right
- 55:25Speaker 2: before the Falcons game.
- 55:26Speaker 3: Oh see, I didn't know that record was on. Yes,
- 55:29Speaker 3: I didn't watch obviously your game last week. So when
- 55:32Speaker 3: I heard his name this week, I was like, oh,
- 55:34Speaker 3: he's back.
- 55:35Speaker 2: Yeah, and I believe Romo. Evan correct me if I'm wrong.
- 55:38Speaker 2: I believe Romo signed with the Patriots.
- 55:40Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah he did, And you are right, it was
- 55:42Speaker 1: it was Parker Romo in that game.
- 55:45Speaker 2: Sorry, I hate, I hate when I am that guy
- 55:47Speaker 2: that's like, you're wrong. It wasn't that, dude, it was Loose.
- 55:50Speaker 1: No, I'm glad you corrected me in the moment. And
- 55:52Speaker 1: that wasn't somebody you know a week from now that
- 55:55Speaker 1: corrected me in the YouTube comments.
- 55:57Speaker 2: Well, if you were about to comment on YouTube that
- 55:59Speaker 2: Evan went wrong, but then you stopped because I corrected him,
- 56:02Speaker 2: still comment like, still still do it because that means
- 56:05Speaker 2: we get another comment on everybody.
- 56:07Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll take any of the comments. But I'm looking
- 56:11Speaker 1: at Sam Darnold's attempts right now. That's that's really the
- 56:14Speaker 1: only stat I'm looking at. He's thrown the ball thirty
- 56:18Speaker 1: five times tonight. And that would be the second most
- 56:21Speaker 1: if the game ended right now, that would be the
- 56:23Speaker 1: second most of the season. You gotta think he's gonna
- 56:25Speaker 1: throw it more than three more times in the fourth
- 56:28Speaker 1: quarter potentially, So you know, we could be looking at
- 56:32Speaker 1: a season high in attempts, and typically when he throws
- 56:36Speaker 1: the ball more, the games don't go as well. For
- 56:40Speaker 1: the vikings the highest. So for his completions above thirty,
- 56:48Speaker 1: they've all been wins, but they've been kind of those tougher,
- 56:52Speaker 1: kind of closer wins. So the Jacksonville game the second highest,
- 56:56Speaker 1: the next two highest where that overtime win.
- 57:00Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry to interrupt. You just had keenan out
- 57:04Speaker 2: highlight reel catch right there.
- 57:06Speaker 1: That was a catch.
- 57:07Speaker 2: That was That's wild, My goodness, that's the catch that
- 57:12Speaker 2: you set yourself up for as like a ten year
- 57:14Speaker 2: old in the backyard. You put your feet right on
- 57:17Speaker 2: the sideline, you say, hey, buddy, throw me the ball,
- 57:19Speaker 2: but make it make it a little wide. I want
- 57:21Speaker 2: to fall into the ground on this one. That was wild.
- 57:23Speaker 2: That was crazy.
- 57:26Speaker 1: Anyways. Yeah, like some of these games that he's thrown
- 57:29Speaker 1: the ball a lot have been really close. The overtime
- 57:32Speaker 1: win over the Bears, the win over the Colts, which
- 57:36Speaker 1: was by one score, the win over the Titans, which
- 57:39Speaker 1: was only by ten points. Like, these games are are
- 57:43Speaker 1: closer than they should have been, even going down the
- 57:45Speaker 1: line a little bit more. A one point win over
- 57:48Speaker 1: the Cardinals, a one score win over the Jets in London.
- 57:53Speaker 1: All of those games he threw thirty plus times, and
- 57:58Speaker 1: granted the Vikings won. And I'm not saying that a
- 58:01Speaker 1: Vikings win or lost hinges on how many times he
- 58:03Speaker 1: throws the ball. But I think Sam Darnold plays better
- 58:07Speaker 1: when he has a run game to support him. And
- 58:11Speaker 1: I'd be interested to see the correlation between rushing yards
- 58:15Speaker 1: in those games versus his passing attempts, because I would
- 58:19Speaker 1: venture to guess the more he passes the ball, the
- 58:22Speaker 1: less the Vikings have run the ball.
- 58:25Speaker 2: Yeah, you're probably absolutely right. Well, and what do they
- 58:28Speaker 2: say all the time, like defense and a rushing game
- 58:32Speaker 2: are the two foundational points you need to be a
- 58:36Speaker 2: great team in football. And tonight the second half you've
- 58:41Speaker 2: seen Aaron Jones kind of turn it on a little
- 58:43Speaker 2: bit and he's got that touchdown. So hopefully this fourth
- 58:46Speaker 2: quarter goes the way of the Vikings being able to
- 58:51Speaker 2: bleed the clock a little bit and get oh another
- 58:53Speaker 2: false start there for the Bears, and get Aaron Jones going.
- 58:58Speaker 2: And what's really nice is Cam Akers is a solid
- 59:01Speaker 2: number two. The Vikings don't have the sonic and knuckles
- 59:05Speaker 2: that the Lions had before Montgomery went down, but you
- 59:10Speaker 2: do need kind of that scat guy, the speed guy,
- 59:13Speaker 2: and then the thunder like you said earlier for us,
- 59:15Speaker 2: the the beatdown guy, the Jerome bettis.
- 59:19Speaker 3: Yeah, every team needs both both types of running back styles.
- 59:24Speaker 2: So yep, unless you're a guy or a team like
- 59:28Speaker 2: the Eagles with a Saquon Barkley who he's kind of
- 59:31Speaker 2: reminded me of prime Adrian Peters.
- 59:33Speaker 3: I was gonna say there are a few of those
- 59:35Speaker 3: that just have both the bruiser but the cut and
- 59:39Speaker 3: athletic ability that could be cool. Yeah, very few, but yes,
- 59:45Speaker 3: I'd say Barkley is one of those guys.
- 59:49Speaker 1: Jonathan Grenard was just all over Caleb.
- 59:52Speaker 2: She still is. My goodness, that's wild and almost an
- 59:58Speaker 2: interception for Harrison Smith. But man Caleb Williams was running
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: for his life on that play. And if you're listening
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: in the future, you probably know what I'm talking about.
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: Unless you know what happens here here again, but.
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: Roughly thirteen minutes left in the fourth quarter.
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: Yeah, Kayleb Williams just ran about seven miles to throw
- 1:00:16Speaker 2: an incomplete ball.
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: And there was a penalty on the play too.
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: Man, this is kind of a heartbreaker for the Bears
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: right now. The Vikings declined the penalty fourth and sixteen. Man,
- 1:00:28Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, He's gonna need some oxygen on the sideline. Yeah,
- 1:00:33Speaker 2: lick at the end of that play too.
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: Kim Moore decked him at the end.
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: O my goodness. Well, hopefully this has been entertaining for
- 1:00:44Speaker 2: you school hoppers to listen to us. We're not quite
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: done yet, but yeah, it's kind of the nature of
- 1:00:49Speaker 2: the game, of our schedules and of life right now
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: that we had to record during the game right now.
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: But if if it works, well, maybe we'll do it
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: again in the future. Forrest, I think you've probably already
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: kind of answered this. But are you saying Lincoln Riley
- 1:01:03Speaker 2: would be your your ideal?
- 1:01:06Speaker 3: I don't say he's and I know I don't think
- 1:01:08Speaker 3: he's my ideal. I'm just saying you look at at
- 1:01:12Speaker 3: the how stars are kind of on line at one
- 1:01:17Speaker 3: That's why I said he's my dark horse, the people
- 1:01:20Speaker 3: that you start to hear some outer circles talking as potentials.
- 1:01:27Speaker 3: But no, I don't, I don't. I don't if I
- 1:01:29Speaker 3: put money on it, I don't think he's probably a
- 1:01:31Speaker 3: one in one hundred shot, you know, to to make it.
- 1:01:35Speaker 3: I think they're ultimately going to go somewhere in the
- 1:01:40Speaker 3: NFL already. It's my guess. I just don't know exactly
- 1:01:46Speaker 3: who yet. It's it's it's so hard. It's so hard
- 1:01:50Speaker 3: right now with so many teams competing for playoff spots
- 1:01:55Speaker 3: and everything. It wouldn't that surprise me. You know, I'll
- 1:01:59Speaker 3: just throw an another name. Uh, Cliff Kingsbury, you know,
- 1:02:04Speaker 3: you know he had some hard times down Arizona, but
- 1:02:07Speaker 3: it's kind of revitalized his his career a little bit.
- 1:02:10Speaker 3: I could see him getting a crack again at at
- 1:02:14Speaker 3: And he's an offensive minded kind of guy.
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: Is he with the Niners right now? Yeah?
- 1:02:21Speaker 3: I thought he was with the Commanders?
- 1:02:24Speaker 2: Oh? Actually, yeah, I think you're right. I think you're
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: right because they did have oh, what's his name, the
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: guy that was the OC for the Chiefs.
- 1:02:34Speaker 3: Oh you're talking? Yeah, yeah, I forget what his name is,
- 1:02:39Speaker 3: but yeah, Eric had to thank you because he was
- 1:02:43Speaker 3: he he he just got released from u C l A.
- 1:02:46Speaker 2: So yeah, so yeah, I think I hadn't thought about
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: him before, but Kingsbury might be, you know, a dark
- 1:02:52Speaker 2: horse guy for another head coaching job. Yeah sometime, yep, yep.
- 1:02:57Speaker 3: I mean you see what he's kind of doing with
- 1:03:00Speaker 3: Jane Daniels in Washington. So not saying that that will
- 1:03:06Speaker 3: happen either, but just another name to throw out there.
- 1:03:08Speaker 2: So absolutely, it's.
- 1:03:11Speaker 3: So I did want to. I mean, I know this
- 1:03:14Speaker 3: is the Vikings podcast, but speaking of man that NFC
- 1:03:17Speaker 3: west Man, what what what is? What do you think
- 1:03:20Speaker 3: is gonna happen? I I think I said that not
- 1:03:24Speaker 3: to too my horn, but I said, look out for
- 1:03:25Speaker 3: the Rams and they're kind of come to fruition right now.
- 1:03:28Speaker 3: They're they're a scary team if if and I think
- 1:03:31Speaker 3: they'll make the playoffs. So they're they're they're a scary
- 1:03:35Speaker 3: team to match up with.
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: So yeah, I absolutely agree. And I think one thing
- 1:03:39Speaker 2: that really undercut people's thoughts on them this year was
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: those few weeks that they didn't have Cooper Cup and
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: Puka to Kua. Yeah, they've been back Puka Nukua specifically,
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: he might be I don't know, at least top five,
- 1:03:54Speaker 2: if not better wide receivers in the game right now.
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: Once they came back, this Rams team like they haven't
- 1:04:01Speaker 2: missed a beat. They're they're good, They're they're gonna do
- 1:04:04Speaker 2: some damage and they'll probably win a game or two
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: in the playoffs.
- 1:04:07Speaker 3: They have they had that that firepower to do it.
- 1:04:10Speaker 2: So yeah, honestly, at this point I'd be more concerned
- 1:04:13Speaker 2: about the Vikings facing them in any game than the Packers. Well,
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: I was gonna say and ev and chime in, but
- 1:04:20Speaker 2: that leads me to kind of to my question is
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: who say, say the Vikings get the number two slots,
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: say they get the number two seed.
- 1:04:29Speaker 3: What or even even number one? It doesn't really matter
- 1:04:32Speaker 3: who who do you want or who do you see
- 1:04:35Speaker 3: you matching up with the best of all these playoff
- 1:04:38Speaker 3: contenders right now at this point in the season, Who
- 1:04:42Speaker 3: would you most like to see? Let's put it that way.
- 1:04:46Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
- 1:04:48Speaker 1: I think if the Vikings could be the one seed,
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: I think you'd want to see a team like Seattle
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: at home, especially with a banged up genus. I don't
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: know how likely that is I don't. I don't know
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: that the Vikings getting the one seed is super likely
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: at this point, although I think as Vikings fans were
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: still kind of holding out hope for that, And I
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: don't even know, like you were just saying the Rams
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: could win the West, I don't know that. If the
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: Rams win the West, I don't know. I don't think
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: Seattle makes the playoffs out of the West as a
- 1:05:24Speaker 1: wild card, right if the Rams win that division. So
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: but I mean, as of right now, if I had
- 1:05:33Speaker 1: to pick a team just based on like the Vikings
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: strengths and the other team's weaknesses, I would probably say
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: that just because you're gonna have Sam Howell is it
- 1:05:45Speaker 1: at backup quarterback for Seattle? Who you know, he kind
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: of flashed in Washington there a couple of years ago,
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: and now he's kind of probably on track to be
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: a career journeyman backup quarterback. You know, I think the
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: Vikings defense especially would match up well against that. I
- 1:06:04Speaker 1: don't know a ton about Seattle's defense, and I don't
- 1:06:06Speaker 1: know how what they would do against this Vikings offense.
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: But you have to you have to think, you know,
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: with the talent the Vikings have Justin Jefferson has even
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: said it in some of his press conferences, like it's
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: it's either teams defend me or they defend everybody else.
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: You kind of have to pick one or the other.
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: There's really no in between. And you know, either I'm
- 1:06:31Speaker 1: gonna get a bunch of catches and a bunch of
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: touchdowns or Jordan Addison and TJ and Aaron Jones and
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: you know, Brandon Powell, Jalen Naylor, They're they're all going
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: to rack up the yards.
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: You know.
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: You you take your It's like the blue pillar, the
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: red pill, and the matrix they get pick, you know.
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that's kind of my probably totally
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: unrealistic prediction. Or it's not even a prediction. Like if
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: I were to pick who the Vikings would face just
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: to get the Vikings an easy win in the playoffs,
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: I'd say the Seahawks.
- 1:07:07Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's hard to argue with. But judging
- 1:07:11Speaker 2: by a recency bias, I think if the Vikings go
- 1:07:15Speaker 2: into the playoffs and they're looking at the Falcons, I
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: think we'd all be pretty happy going into that game. Now,
- 1:07:23Speaker 2: it is hard to beat a team twice in one season.
- 1:07:26Speaker 2: That's kind of why divisions are so competitive within each other,
- 1:07:29Speaker 2: so you can never chalk up a win automatically before
- 1:07:34Speaker 2: you even blow the whistle on a game to start it.
- 1:07:38Speaker 2: But I mean, we've seen how the Vikings play the
- 1:07:42Speaker 2: Falcons and it went pretty well the first time, so
- 1:07:44Speaker 2: if they got them again, I think it'd be great.
- 1:07:48Speaker 2: Although I think this Vikings team, and I've said it
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: before and I'll keep saying it this year, the twenty
- 1:07:54Speaker 2: twenty four version of the Vikings, they're going to play
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: any team tough. They haven't really blown anybody out outside
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: of the Falcons in the fourth quarter last week and
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: the Giants the first week. They've just played tough games
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: against everybody. And Jordan Addison just got a defensive past interference.
- 1:08:17Speaker 2: It's rawn on him on what otherwise would have been
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: an interception. But yeah, the Vikings is going to have
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: the ball at the one yard line right now. That's crazy. Yeah,
- 1:08:26Speaker 2: I think the Vikings are set up to do some damage,
- 1:08:29Speaker 2: and not that they will win every game from here
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: till February, but I think they're going to have a
- 1:08:37Speaker 2: fighting chance in every single game no matter what.
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: I'll make a prediction right now, I think and it's
- 1:08:44Speaker 1: a little vague and we just don't know how it's
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: all gonna shake out with three weeks left in the
- 1:08:51Speaker 1: regular season after tonight, but I think an NFC North
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: team will play in the divisional round or the NFC Championship.
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: And let me actually sorry, as it came out of
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: my mouth, I realized I wasn't as clear as I
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: wanted to be. Two NFC North teams will play each
- 1:09:11Speaker 1: other in one of those two rounds.
- 1:09:14Speaker 3: A yeah, I would actually agree with you.
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: That's my prediction, and I don't know when that will be.
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: It could be the wild card round, it could be
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: the divisional round, it could be the NFC Championship game.
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: Not entirely sure yet, but I think two NFC North
- 1:09:29Speaker 1: teams will will match up at some point in the playoffs.
- 1:09:33Speaker 3: I mean the likelihood of those three, yeah, I mean
- 1:09:40Speaker 3: at this point, yes, I would agree with you that.
- 1:09:44Speaker 3: I mean, it's just looking like three teams from NFC North.
- 1:09:47Speaker 2: So it's not crazy to think, and maybe it's mathematically
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: not possible, but the way I'm thinking about it right now,
- 1:09:54Speaker 2: it's not crazy to think that we'll have two different
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: North matchups in the playoffs this year. I mean, I
- 1:10:05Speaker 2: guess I don't know enough right off the top of
- 1:10:07Speaker 2: my head about the seeding to know if that's even
- 1:10:10Speaker 2: possible the way the matchups will work out. But to think,
- 1:10:14Speaker 2: you know, the one seed or whatever, we'll play against
- 1:10:18Speaker 2: a lower seeded NFC North rival and then the next
- 1:10:21Speaker 2: week a slightly higher seeded NFC North rival, Like, that's
- 1:10:24Speaker 2: not crazy to think about. And that would be wild.
- 1:10:27Speaker 3: It's that crazy, and that would be brutal for that team.
- 1:10:31Speaker 3: And it could be it. I mean, it could be you,
- 1:10:35Speaker 3: it could be the Lions. Either way, that could be
- 1:10:39Speaker 3: brutal for those teams to, like you said, to have
- 1:10:42Speaker 3: to play a team three times in a given year.
- 1:10:48Speaker 2: Absolutely, And the Vikings just punched it in. Cam Akers
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: just ran what one or two yards here for a
- 1:10:56Speaker 2: touchdown to make it as it sits right now. Twenty
- 1:10:58Speaker 2: six three for the Vikings, twenty six six.
- 1:11:04Speaker 1: Okay, give the Bears a little credit here, come on.
- 1:11:11Speaker 3: I miss in, but there they can kick field goals.
- 1:11:14Speaker 1: So is it Remandre Stevenson? Is that his name?
- 1:11:18Speaker 2: Nomandre is the I think he's the Patriots.
- 1:11:21Speaker 3: Running Yeah, he's like like Tyreek or.
- 1:11:26Speaker 2: Yeah Tyreek. Yeah, you're right.
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: Anyways, he's injured, he's down right now.
- 1:11:31Speaker 2: Yep. He's also the one that's set up the Vikings
- 1:11:34Speaker 2: goal line opportunity there by. I mean, yeah, it was
- 1:11:38Speaker 2: the typical, you know, mutual contact between the receiver and
- 1:11:44Speaker 2: the defensive back, but Stevenson basically locked up and shoved
- 1:11:49Speaker 2: down Jordan Addison indian zone there, which set up that
- 1:11:54Speaker 2: goal line opportunity for the Vikings. So I mean, just
- 1:11:58Speaker 2: borrowing crazy longer than your player. So you're you're right,
- 1:12:03Speaker 2: you know what, for us, You're right, they should have
- 1:12:05Speaker 2: taken that flag off.
- 1:12:08Speaker 3: Give the guy.
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: Give the guy some credit. Though he did have that
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: interception on Sam Darnold ear he did.
- 1:12:13Speaker 2: He also had that tipped pass to the Commander earlier
- 1:12:18Speaker 2: in the season to make that hil Mary complete for
- 1:12:22Speaker 2: Jade Daniels and the Commanders to beat the Bears in
- 1:12:24Speaker 2: the last seconds. Just a rough year for that guy.
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: I'm sure he has gotten some very unwarranted threats like
- 1:12:32Speaker 2: that that would be ridiculous.
- 1:12:34Speaker 3: But you know, and the thing is he actually I
- 1:12:37Speaker 3: think he's a pretty good player.
- 1:12:38Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, Yeah.
- 1:12:40Speaker 3: He just needs to not be so into himself. So
- 1:12:47Speaker 3: sometimes I guess, and.
- 1:12:49Speaker 2: It's hard to big mess ups and huge points of
- 1:12:54Speaker 2: multiple games.
- 1:12:54Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And you know, you look at this
- 1:13:00Speaker 3: game a lot, and I like the Chicago defense, but man,
- 1:13:05Speaker 3: how many third and longs have you converted this game?
- 1:13:08Speaker 3: It's it's been a lot, and it's it makes me
- 1:13:12Speaker 3: wonder if it's the players are the scheme that's being called,
- 1:13:16Speaker 3: and it's just, man, how many And I'm not talking
- 1:13:20Speaker 3: third and eight, I'm talking like third and thirteen, thirty
- 1:13:23Speaker 3: and fifteen type. I think there's been four that I
- 1:13:27Speaker 3: I can probably recall. You know, just yes, there's newl
- 1:13:32Speaker 3: and and credit to your offense. They they got good players,
- 1:13:36Speaker 3: but man, yeah, walk about get off the field.
- 1:13:40Speaker 2: There was that big one towards the end of the
- 1:13:42Speaker 2: first half. It was kind of a dump off from
- 1:13:44Speaker 2: Darnold to I believe Aaron Jones.
- 1:13:46Speaker 3: Yeah, Aaron Jones, you just stretched it.
- 1:13:48Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like third and seventeen and Jones got.
- 1:13:51Speaker 3: Like It's almost like it reminds me a lot like
- 1:13:56Speaker 3: the first game we played against you, where it was
- 1:13:58Speaker 3: Jordan Ass and that was reading us on third and
- 1:14:01Speaker 3: longs every single time, And it's just it just comes
- 1:14:05Speaker 3: to what film study were the Bears doing on these things?
- 1:14:10Speaker 3: And what scheme are they putting together on the field
- 1:14:13Speaker 3: when it's third and long, Because whatever they're putting together
- 1:14:16Speaker 3: is not working.
- 1:14:17Speaker 2: So all right, any major points we want to hit
- 1:14:21Speaker 2: here before the end of the game the end of
- 1:14:23Speaker 2: the podcast this week, Evan, what are you thinking?
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: I've got one really quick. This might be the first
- 1:14:29Speaker 1: game in a long time that Sam Darnold hasn't posted
- 1:14:34Speaker 1: a plus one hundred passer rating, currently sitting at a
- 1:14:39Speaker 1: seventy three point one. I really don't expect that to
- 1:14:43Speaker 1: change a whole lot to the end of the game.
- 1:14:46Speaker 1: I would expect the Vikings to just run the ball
- 1:14:49Speaker 1: and try to bleed clock and get this game over
- 1:14:52Speaker 1: with so they can start thinking about going out to
- 1:14:55Speaker 1: Seattle next week. But yeah, it's kind of crazy this
- 1:15:00Speaker 1: stretch that Sam Donald was on of these. You know,
- 1:15:04Speaker 1: I think it was a franchise record of games in
- 1:15:07Speaker 1: a row of a over one hundred passer rating.
- 1:15:11Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't know about the record being games
- 1:15:14Speaker 2: in a row, but I'm pretty sure he has eleven
- 1:15:17Speaker 2: games overall this season at or above one hundred quarterback rating,
- 1:15:22Speaker 2: which is a Vikings record.
- 1:15:24Speaker 1: Maybe that was the stat that I was thinking of.
- 1:15:27Speaker 1: It was just total games this season, yep. But yeah, regardless,
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: it's just it's unusual for Sam Donald to not have
- 1:15:35Speaker 1: a game like that. He's played so well. And it's
- 1:15:39Speaker 1: not that he hasn't played horribly today. It's not like
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: a Jaguars three interception game. But it hasn't been lights
- 1:15:48Speaker 1: out five touchdowns Sam Donald like we saw last week
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: either against the Falcons.
- 1:15:53Speaker 2: It is noted. I've seen on Twitter some rumblings of
- 1:15:57Speaker 2: maybe his hand yeah, and is bothering him a little bit.
- 1:16:02Speaker 1: He hit he hit question Berry's helmet at least once
- 1:16:06Speaker 1: on a throw. It just it, you know, knocked his
- 1:16:09Speaker 1: pinky or something. I think his pinky is what's been
- 1:16:11Speaker 1: bothering him.
- 1:16:12Speaker 2: Uh, you got you got Jones, Daniel Jones. There's three
- 1:16:17Speaker 2: quarterbacks ahead of him right now.
- 1:16:21Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is in street clothes on the sidelines right now.
- 1:16:24Speaker 2: If Daniel Jones plays a snap for the Vikings this year,
- 1:16:28Speaker 2: something has gone terribly terribly, terribly terribly wrong, and not
- 1:16:32Speaker 2: just one, something like five somethings. So maybe next year
- 1:16:37Speaker 2: he might be QB two. Next year that'd be something
- 1:16:40Speaker 2: I'd be all four, But yeah, this year, please, we've
- 1:16:44Speaker 2: seen it. Daniel Jones this year funny all right, am,
- 1:16:52Speaker 2: I'm sorry what.
- 1:16:53Speaker 3: No, I'm just gonna chime in with with kind of
- 1:16:57Speaker 3: thoughts on Obviously, I think the game's coming out as
- 1:17:02Speaker 3: everyone expected. I think the Bears, you know, they're kind
- 1:17:06Speaker 3: of going for what throw caution in the wind? Obviously
- 1:17:09Speaker 3: when they're going fourth and one, when they're in field
- 1:17:12Speaker 3: goal range a couple of times, why not try to
- 1:17:15Speaker 3: pull off an opposet because I think they knew they
- 1:17:18Speaker 3: had to, they had to put an in some Clearly
- 1:17:21Speaker 3: they did not succeed any of those attempts, but I
- 1:17:26Speaker 3: think we'll see what the Bears do on the off season.
- 1:17:30Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm really I'm really excited, not just for
- 1:17:35Speaker 3: your Vikings and for YouTube, but this this playoff, I
- 1:17:38Speaker 3: think is going to be more than one of the
- 1:17:40Speaker 3: more exciting ones that I remember as of late, just
- 1:17:43Speaker 3: with the teams that are potentially going into it, specifically
- 1:17:49Speaker 3: on the NFC side.
- 1:17:50Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, it should be good. And let's hope
- 1:17:53Speaker 2: the Vikings are peaking at the right time and the
- 1:17:55Speaker 2: Lions are crumbling at the right time. You don't get
- 1:17:59Speaker 2: too many years where your team wins eleven now almost
- 1:18:04Speaker 2: twelve games at all. So I think losing a playoff
- 1:18:09Speaker 2: game would be a massive disappointment for the Vikings this year.
- 1:18:13Speaker 2: And I don't care about the people that'll say, oh, well,
- 1:18:16Speaker 2: they were only supposed to win like five games, so
- 1:18:18Speaker 2: this is actually really good. Like, no, I'll never be
- 1:18:21Speaker 2: happy for a playoff loss.
- 1:18:23Speaker 3: Well, let's kind of bring into context. Obviously, you want
- 1:18:28Speaker 3: your team to win it all every single year, that's
- 1:18:31Speaker 3: obviously the goal. But and they were maybe satisfied maybe
- 1:18:38Speaker 3: one playoff win, would you be like, Okay, yeah, I'm
- 1:18:41Speaker 3: still disappointed, but we're building on this type thing. Or
- 1:18:46Speaker 3: do you think you guys need to make at least
- 1:18:48Speaker 3: the NSC Championship to be satisfied in your mind? And
- 1:18:53Speaker 3: maybe satisfied it is not the right word, but where
- 1:18:56Speaker 3: you can be like it was great as a great
- 1:19:00Speaker 3: season and although we didn't win it all, I can
- 1:19:04Speaker 3: walk away overall looking forward to next year.
- 1:19:08Speaker 1: It's a fair question, Evan.
- 1:19:10Speaker 2: I want to hear your answer on that, but mine'll
- 1:19:12Speaker 2: be quick and simple and to the point.
- 1:19:15Speaker 3: I'm super bowl or busted.
- 1:19:17Speaker 2: I mean, actually, yes, I am thirty three years old
- 1:19:20Speaker 2: right now, which is I understand relative grand scheme of things,
- 1:19:24Speaker 2: super young I get that. If I have, you know,
- 1:19:28Speaker 2: the normal life expectancy, I probably got what forty ish
- 1:19:31Speaker 2: years left here.
- 1:19:33Speaker 3: I don't cut yourself short.
- 1:19:34Speaker 2: Man, I am old enough to not be satisfied or
- 1:19:41Speaker 2: happy unless they win it. I don't want to be
- 1:19:45Speaker 2: sixty five sitting here like man, I hope I see
- 1:19:48Speaker 2: my Vikings first super Bowl. Like No, that would be
- 1:19:51Speaker 2: the most disappointing and awful thing. I want to see it,
- 1:19:56Speaker 2: and I until they win the super Bowl. Every year
- 1:20:00Speaker 2: that they lose, I'm gonna be super pissed and probably
- 1:20:04Speaker 2: care less and less every year. But I say that
- 1:20:06Speaker 2: all the time. I can't care less like I only
- 1:20:09Speaker 2: ever care more.
- 1:20:11Speaker 3: You have a Vikings podcast.
- 1:20:14Speaker 2: I know I keep double tripling down and Evan, I
- 1:20:17Speaker 2: blame you, but yeah, I mean there is no I'll
- 1:20:20Speaker 2: never sit down after the Vikings lose a playoff game
- 1:20:22Speaker 2: and say, you know, it was actually good year, I
- 1:20:25Speaker 2: actually kind of liked it. No, f that win the
- 1:20:29Speaker 2: freaking super Bowl, and until then, I won't be happy.
- 1:20:33Speaker 1: That's fair. I've been a Vikings fan for just a
- 1:20:36Speaker 1: little bit longer than you have.
- 1:20:38Speaker 2: Yeah, just a couple more years.
- 1:20:40Speaker 1: Just a few more years. I mean I was born
- 1:20:42Speaker 1: into it. It's definitely a family thing, and I was
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: born in Minneapolis, so I mean, I'm a native Vikings fan.
- 1:20:49Speaker 1: If we're gonna we're gonna take it that far. I've
- 1:20:53Speaker 1: learned to manage my expectations and I'm absolutely that Vikings
- 1:20:58Speaker 1: fan that if we get to the divisional round, even
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: if that means we're the number one seed, and we
- 1:21:03Speaker 1: get the first round by and we lose in the
- 1:21:06Speaker 1: divisional round, I'll be like, Yeah, that was great, what
- 1:21:09Speaker 1: a good season. Guys. It'll suck, you know, the week
- 1:21:14Speaker 1: or two after that. You'll you'll see me a little
- 1:21:19Speaker 1: down in the dumps, but I'll rebound pretty quickly. Things
- 1:21:23Speaker 1: will be fine. I think the expectations are very high
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: for this team, and I think I think everybody in
- 1:21:31Speaker 1: that locker room knows, and I think everybody that's sitting
- 1:21:34Speaker 1: in that stadium right now knows that this team hasn't
- 1:21:37Speaker 1: played its best football yet. And I think that's what
- 1:21:41Speaker 1: I'm most excited for is when when these big games
- 1:21:46Speaker 1: come around, how how will this team respond? I saw
- 1:21:50Speaker 1: it in the pregame stuff. These ESPN guys, we're kind
- 1:21:53Speaker 1: of ragging on the Vikings a little bit. They're like,
- 1:21:55Speaker 1: they haven't seen anybody. Was, Yeah, I haven't played anybody?
- 1:21:59Speaker 2: They have.
- 1:22:00Speaker 1: They've played who they played the Titans, they played the Jaguars,
- 1:22:03Speaker 1: they played the Bears, you know, right, Like, who else
- 1:22:07Speaker 1: have they played? They haven't really played anybody. They lost
- 1:22:10Speaker 1: to the Lions, they lost to the Rams. Those are
- 1:22:12Speaker 1: the only two good teams they've really played. And I
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: would argue against that a little bit. You know, the
- 1:22:17Speaker 1: Texans are a good team. The Vikings laid the beat
- 1:22:20Speaker 1: down on the Texans early on in the season. The
- 1:22:23Speaker 1: Niners were a super Bowl favorite coming into the season.
- 1:22:26Speaker 1: Obviously now that script has changed, but they handled the
- 1:22:32Speaker 1: forty nine ers early on in the season as well.
- 1:22:34Speaker 1: So it's not that the Vikings haven't beaten good teams.
- 1:22:38Speaker 1: I think the Vikings have. You've said it all season long,
- 1:22:42Speaker 1: You've said it even before this season, Austin. The Vikings
- 1:22:45Speaker 1: played to the level of their opponent. And sometimes that
- 1:22:49Speaker 1: works out, sometimes that doesn't. And fortunately for the Vikings
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: here in about six minutes, it's going to have worked
- 1:22:58Speaker 1: out for the Vikings twelve times this season. And that's
- 1:23:01Speaker 1: that's a heck of a season for the Vikings. After
- 1:23:05Speaker 1: being projected to lose the NFC North by a lot
- 1:23:10Speaker 1: with a bridge quarterback. And I mean we were sitting
- 1:23:12Speaker 1: here six months ago saying no, jj mccarthy'll come in
- 1:23:15Speaker 1: at some point and take over and it'll be a
- 1:23:18Speaker 1: mess for a while, but it'll be a learning experience
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: for him, kind of like it is for Caleb Williams
- 1:23:24Speaker 1: right now for the Bears. You know, just you know,
- 1:23:27Speaker 1: getting his feet wet and taking some lumps in the league,
- 1:23:30Speaker 1: and you know, we'll see what we can do after that.
- 1:23:33Speaker 1: And I don't know this, This Vikings team has a
- 1:23:36Speaker 1: lot out in front of it, and I'm excited to
- 1:23:41Speaker 1: see where things go. As I say that Sam Darnold
- 1:23:44Speaker 1: takes a really ugly sack.
- 1:23:46Speaker 2: An ugly third down sack too. But yeah, I mean
- 1:23:50Speaker 2: you bring.
- 1:23:50Speaker 3: Up a good point, Evan though, because you just said
- 1:23:52Speaker 3: and I totally understand it hurts. It hurts when you
- 1:23:56Speaker 3: when your hopes are build up high. But you brought
- 1:23:59Speaker 3: up a point that you know, early in the season
- 1:24:01Speaker 3: or preseason, guys thought you'd still be a rebuild year
- 1:24:05Speaker 3: type thing. Definitely not at eleven to two, but about
- 1:24:09Speaker 3: to be twelve and two type record. So, like I said,
- 1:24:13Speaker 3: it's almost like you've raised the bar and now you
- 1:24:18Speaker 3: think you know you're you're not satisfied enough. So it's
- 1:24:21Speaker 3: almost like you exceed expectations to definitely.
- 1:24:25Speaker 2: Have exceeded expectations.
- 1:24:26Speaker 3: So yeah, I get it both sides, Austin Evan totally
- 1:24:29Speaker 3: get both your the mentalities of you want your team
- 1:24:33Speaker 3: to win it all. The reality is only one team
- 1:24:36Speaker 3: wins it every year, and and it hurts no matter
- 1:24:40Speaker 3: no matter how good or how bad your team does.
- 1:24:42Speaker 3: It hurts when when they do.
- 1:24:44Speaker 2: Oh and I think there are a few seconds ahead.
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: Of me, I'm a little ahead of you. But yeah,
- 1:24:49Speaker 1: the Vikings just gave up a big blocked punt and
- 1:24:52Speaker 1: Ryan Right went down hard. So I'm gonna try to
- 1:24:58Speaker 1: get that off of my brain here. I want to
- 1:25:01Speaker 1: wrap up this conversation, and I think we need to
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: wrap up this episode. I will say I think every
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: other Super Bowl contending team right now that I can
- 1:25:11Speaker 1: think of, has obvious weaknesses, and that doesn't exclude the Vikings.
- 1:25:16Speaker 1: I think the Vikings have some obvious weaknesses. Special teams
- 1:25:19Speaker 1: is one of them, and this blocked punt on Ryan
- 1:25:23Speaker 1: Right is no exception to that. I don't know if
- 1:25:26Speaker 1: they're going to get a penalty on that that could
- 1:25:28Speaker 1: be one.
- 1:25:29Speaker 2: No, it's clean. He hit the ball. Usually if you
- 1:25:32Speaker 2: get the ball.
- 1:25:36Speaker 1: I only I was only paying half attention to the replay.
- 1:25:39Speaker 1: But anyways, I think that, like you look at the
- 1:25:44Speaker 1: AFC side for a second, the Chiefs have some obvious weaknesses.
- 1:25:48Speaker 1: They have maybe surpassed to the record of these one
- 1:25:53Speaker 1: score games where it's just like every game for the
- 1:25:56Speaker 1: Chiefs seems like it's a one scorer ordeal the Bills.
- 1:26:02Speaker 1: The Bills seem like they're a one man show. It's
- 1:26:06Speaker 1: the Josh Allen show. And what happens if Josh Allen
- 1:26:09Speaker 1: goes down and he's not scoring three touchdowns on the
- 1:26:12Speaker 1: ground and then three more through the air, right like,
- 1:26:15Speaker 1: Or what happens if he injures his hand and he
- 1:26:18Speaker 1: can only run the ball?
- 1:26:20Speaker 2: You know, like, I still wouldn't want to go up
- 1:26:23Speaker 2: against a Bills team where Josh Allen can only run
- 1:26:26Speaker 2: the ball. That's still dangerous.
- 1:26:28Speaker 1: It's very dangerous. I watched that Lions game and you
- 1:26:31Speaker 1: watch him he starts to run like he's gonna run it,
- 1:26:34Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he just pulls up
- 1:26:35Speaker 1: and throws it, and it's like, how do you prepare
- 1:26:37Speaker 1: for that as an opposing defense? It's really hard. But
- 1:26:41Speaker 1: I still think they're kind of one dimensional that way.
- 1:26:45Speaker 1: You have Josh Allen. That's it. There's really nothing else.
- 1:26:48Speaker 1: And the Lions proved that defensively, the Bills don't have much.
- 1:26:52Speaker 1: You can run up the score on the Bills. The
- 1:26:55Speaker 1: Bills will just run up the score on you a
- 1:26:57Speaker 1: little bit more and you know, leave it up to
- 1:27:00Speaker 1: Josh Allen to win the game for you. On the
- 1:27:02Speaker 1: NFC side of things, the Lions we've already mentioned are
- 1:27:05Speaker 1: really really banged up, especially defensively, but now they're starting
- 1:27:10Speaker 1: to become banged up on offense as well, with you know,
- 1:27:13Speaker 1: the big injury to one of their offensive linemen and
- 1:27:16Speaker 1: then David Montgomery as well. You know, that might not
- 1:27:20Speaker 1: bode well for them into a playoff push. And you know,
- 1:27:25Speaker 1: a two loss team is great going into the playoffs,
- 1:27:28Speaker 1: but if half of your roster is injured, how are
- 1:27:31Speaker 1: you gonna win games? The Eagles, I mean the Eagles.
- 1:27:35Speaker 1: You saw one of their defensive coaches like blocking Nick
- 1:27:39Speaker 1: Sirianni from talking to some guy on the sideline, some
- 1:27:43Speaker 1: player on the sideline, Like there's dissension in the ranks
- 1:27:46Speaker 1: in Philadelphia as well. And I'm not saying the Vikings
- 1:27:49Speaker 1: are the perfect team. I'm not saying the Vikings are
- 1:27:51Speaker 1: going to make the super Bowl, and I'm not saying
- 1:27:53Speaker 1: they're going to win the super Bowl. I'm just saying
- 1:27:55Speaker 1: there are weaknesses on all of these other Juggernauts teams
- 1:28:00Speaker 1: in the NFL, and no one is continuing to talk
- 1:28:05Speaker 1: about the Vikings the Vikings.
- 1:28:06Speaker 2: I'm okay with that.
- 1:28:07Speaker 1: The Vikings continue to be this like sub narrative, like
- 1:28:13Speaker 1: they're just kind of whatever until they do something actually worthwhile,
- 1:28:17Speaker 1: And I agree with you, I'm okay with that too.
- 1:28:21Speaker 1: And I'd be okay with that if that they rode
- 1:28:24Speaker 1: that wave all the way to a NFC title Game or.
- 1:28:30Speaker 2: Super Bowl. We almost need to enact a rule from
- 1:28:35Speaker 2: here on out that we don't say es word I
- 1:28:38Speaker 2: will say to to point it back to this Vikings
- 1:28:41Speaker 2: Bears game really quick. The Bears are in the red
- 1:28:44Speaker 2: zone against the Vikings right now, late in the game,
- 1:28:46Speaker 2: and the Vikings would have to have an epic, almost
- 1:28:50Speaker 2: historic collapse for the Bears to win this game. But
- 1:28:54Speaker 2: the Vikings defense is featuring guys like Jay Ward who
- 1:28:58Speaker 2: is a young safety who hasn't really played much in
- 1:29:01Speaker 2: his two seasons so far. Dwight mclotherin, who was an
- 1:29:04Speaker 2: undrafted rookie this year and hasn't really played much at
- 1:29:08Speaker 2: all until right now, and Bo Richter I've seen him
- 1:29:11Speaker 2: on the field. And Jay Ward and Dwight mclotherin have
- 1:29:14Speaker 2: both made some pretty solid plays in this drive and
- 1:29:17Speaker 2: that's nice to see because I'm pretty sure the Bears
- 1:29:21Speaker 2: are still playing their starters. The Vikings defense seems to
- 1:29:24Speaker 2: be filled with a bunch of backups right now, which
- 1:29:27Speaker 2: that's just the way it goes, with the score of
- 1:29:28Speaker 2: the way it is and the time of the game,
- 1:29:30Speaker 2: the way it is. Not talking crap or anything, but
- 1:29:33Speaker 2: it's looking good and I think we have a lot
- 1:29:34Speaker 2: of good things to say about the Vikings defense, even
- 1:29:38Speaker 2: as we watch Caleb Williams throw a touchdown pass to
- 1:29:40Speaker 2: Keenan Allen. But yeah, this, the last handful of plays
- 1:29:44Speaker 2: outside of that touchdown pass has made me feel pretty
- 1:29:47Speaker 2: good about the Vikings defensive depth. And yeah, I think
- 1:29:52Speaker 2: this team is going to do some damage here in
- 1:29:53Speaker 2: the playoffs. And for me, like I said a few
- 1:29:55Speaker 2: minutes ago, super Bowl or Bust and that's the last
- 1:29:58Speaker 2: time you'll hear me say that name until the name
- 1:30:01Speaker 2: of that game, until after either the Vikings are out
- 1:30:05Speaker 2: of it or the game itself has been played.
- 1:30:09Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think a big key to that is
- 1:30:12Speaker 1: the Vikings have to stay healthy now, and I think
- 1:30:16Speaker 1: I mean outside of Stefan Gilmour, the Vikings are very
- 1:30:20Speaker 1: healthy all things considered, So you've got to prioritize that
- 1:30:25Speaker 1: health and rest. You're gonna come into a short week
- 1:30:27Speaker 1: here and you're traveling west. Historically traveling to the West Coast,
- 1:30:33Speaker 1: the Vikings, I think most Midwest and East Coast teams
- 1:30:37Speaker 1: struggle going west. It's just the time zone difference and
- 1:30:43Speaker 1: all of that is just weird. And it's going to
- 1:30:46Speaker 1: be like I saw the forecast for the Seahawks game
- 1:30:50Speaker 1: next week. As of right now, it's supposed to be
- 1:30:52Speaker 1: in like the mid to high forties, maybe fifty, and rainy,
- 1:30:56Speaker 1: which is pretty typical of Seattle. So it's gonna be
- 1:30:59Speaker 1: one arm outside and you're gonna have to deal with moisture.
- 1:31:03Speaker 1: Probably you're gonna have to deal with some precipitation. So
- 1:31:07Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see how the Vikings respond to that.
- 1:31:09Speaker 1: But health and keeping guys healthy, hopefully getting Brian O'Neill back.
- 1:31:17Speaker 2: He's been playing this game.
- 1:31:19Speaker 1: Yeah, but he went to the locker room, didn't she say?
- 1:31:22Speaker 3: He's been off the field a few times.
- 1:31:25Speaker 2: His current status is good right now?
- 1:31:27Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I mean he's a guy that you'll want
- 1:31:30Speaker 1: to keep an eye on though, right like over this week,
- 1:31:33Speaker 1: and maybe he doesn't practice a whole lot and maybe
- 1:31:35Speaker 1: he makes you know, some headlines like oh he's not practicing,
- 1:31:39Speaker 1: but it's uh, it's out of precaution. Keep him healthy,
- 1:31:43Speaker 1: keep him fresh, keep him good that the Vikings can
- 1:31:47Speaker 1: really do some damage over these next three games. Fabian
- 1:31:51Speaker 1: Moreau was some nice coverage there.
- 1:31:53Speaker 2: Yeah, some borderline. No, that was clean. No, it was clean. Yeah,
- 1:31:57Speaker 2: all right, beer time for ust. What have you thought
- 1:32:01Speaker 2: about your beer? Give a give a good untapped review
- 1:32:05Speaker 2: of what you've been drinking tonight.
- 1:32:08Speaker 3: I mean, if I'm if I'm rating the beer on
- 1:32:11Speaker 3: and untapped app it's definitely four out of five. Okay,
- 1:32:14Speaker 3: it's solid, it's definitely one.
- 1:32:16Speaker 2: I go to my my my.
- 1:32:19Speaker 3: Average is you know, right on the spectrum of three
- 1:32:21Speaker 3: point five. If it's a beer, I want to have
- 1:32:23Speaker 3: a game and I'll go three point seventy five or above.
- 1:32:25Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it's a it's a solid beer. Definitely
- 1:32:29Speaker 3: check it out for from our friends at Confluence and uh,
- 1:32:33Speaker 3: they do a solid job with their beers.
- 1:32:35Speaker 2: Yep, I'll go next, just because Evan, I want you
- 1:32:38Speaker 2: to go last. Yeah, this Single Speed typical Mint, specifically
- 1:32:43Speaker 2: the mint one we all know the tipic Cow is fantastic. Evan.
- 1:32:47Speaker 2: I don't know how we had the tip Tip the
- 1:32:49Speaker 2: Coal on the podcast before.
- 1:32:52Speaker 1: I'd have to go back and look at our list.
- 1:32:54Speaker 1: I don't think we've had it on the show, but
- 1:32:56Speaker 1: I know I've definitely had a Tip the Cow with
- 1:32:58Speaker 1: you at least on one occasion, maybe a few more.
- 1:33:03Speaker 1: But I'm definitely curious to try the mint. I have
- 1:33:05Speaker 1: not tried that one yet.
- 1:33:06Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I'll say one for you. Yeah, this mint flavor.
- 1:33:09Speaker 2: I'm a sucker for a good mint flavored anything. But yeah,
- 1:33:12Speaker 2: this tip the tip the count Mint solid. If I
- 1:33:16Speaker 2: was rating it on untapped, it would definitely be a
- 1:33:18Speaker 2: four to two five. I don't really think I could
- 1:33:23Speaker 2: ever say no to this beer. It's fantastic. Thank you,
- 1:33:26Speaker 2: Single Speed. Yeah.
- 1:33:28Speaker 1: So, and I remember I had the River Ridge, which
- 1:33:31Speaker 1: we will be going to here in a little less
- 1:33:35Speaker 1: than a month, I.
- 1:33:36Speaker 2: Think January eighteenth.
- 1:33:38Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so right out a month from now, Austin
- 1:33:41Speaker 1: and I'll be going to River Ridge for a live
- 1:33:45Speaker 1: podcast opportunity with the mainstream podcast. So they gave me
- 1:33:48Speaker 1: some beer. The good news is I only drank two
- 1:33:50Speaker 1: of them. They gave me six. Oh I have I
- 1:33:53Speaker 1: have two of each of what I had, so there's
- 1:33:58Speaker 1: there's some for both of us. But I started with
- 1:34:02Speaker 1: their Vanilla Porter and these were canned in house when
- 1:34:06Speaker 1: I ordered them, which is pretty cool too. So they're
- 1:34:10Speaker 1: Vanilla Porter really good. I totally would recommend that. I
- 1:34:13Speaker 1: think when you try this, Austin, you're gonna love it,
- 1:34:16Speaker 1: just based on your previous experience with that. And then
- 1:34:19Speaker 1: I finished with the Lucky Lucky Catch. Sorry it's hard
- 1:34:23Speaker 1: to read.
- 1:34:24Speaker 2: In the Irish the red Irish.
- 1:34:27Speaker 1: Yeah, Lucky Catch Irish read. They have a lot of
- 1:34:29Speaker 1: like fishing themed beers because they are right on the
- 1:34:32Speaker 1: Mississippi there, Like you look out the window and you
- 1:34:35Speaker 1: can see the river in w Iowa. So it's a
- 1:34:38Speaker 1: pretty cool spot and one that I think maybe the
- 1:34:41Speaker 1: three of us should make a little road trip to sometime.
- 1:34:44Speaker 2: It's really not that far. I mean within an hour
- 1:34:46Speaker 2: of where we are right now.
- 1:34:47Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, probably just a short hour from here, and
- 1:34:50Speaker 4: we'll definitely be making that trip on January eighteenth for
- 1:34:53Speaker 4: the mainstream podcasts Untapped, Untapped on Tap, I think it's
- 1:34:58Speaker 4: on tap event.
- 1:35:00Speaker 2: It's I think it's a whole day of us and
- 1:35:05Speaker 2: the mainstream and three or four other Iowa podcasts that
- 1:35:09Speaker 2: we all got to meet at the Iowa podcast towards
- 1:35:12Speaker 2: this summer. But yeah, check that out. We'll be posting
- 1:35:15Speaker 2: up more information about that. I've actually been in contact
- 1:35:18Speaker 2: with the mainstream podcast about maybe collaborating before that event,
- 1:35:23Speaker 2: either on our show or on their show. And I
- 1:35:26Speaker 2: can't emphasize enough their show is great. You should check
- 1:35:29Speaker 2: it out if you like hanging out with dudes. I
- 1:35:32Speaker 2: don't know. They're funny, they're down to earth, they're nice
- 1:35:35Speaker 2: to listen to. I like them a lot.
- 1:35:38Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think we should wrap things up here.
- 1:35:41Speaker 1: It was awesome hanging out. I loved watching the game.
- 1:35:45Speaker 1: Even though we were in different places, it felt like
- 1:35:48Speaker 1: we were kind of in the same room, just hanging
- 1:35:49Speaker 1: out watching football together. And that's the way it should be.
- 1:35:53Speaker 1: But good beer, good chats and we're gonna get out
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