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- 0:05All systems going clear the lift up. What's up everyone, Tyller Tamberline here
- 0:38aka TOTEG and Tambo. We're back. It feels like it's been a minute.
- 0:43You enjoyed the ZC last week with Rory and Lowry getting the job done.
- 0:46Good for you. I enjoyed moving getting into the new place. I
- 0:49know it doesn't look that much different, but thank you for all the reached
- 0:52out. I appreciate the support along the way. A lot of packing in
- 0:55and organizing, but I'm back with my guy who and I haven't been this
- 0:58excited in a long time to hop on here with you guys and talk about
- 1:00this. If you don't know, we're two weeks away right now from our
- 1:06one year Innniverse. May fifteenth was the launch date of Shippingnation dot com last
- 1:10year, So hoopster, kick it over to you man. It's an exciting
- 1:12day for the Nation. It's gonna be a good day for all members and
- 1:15others involved. So kick it to you man. What's going on? Yeah,
- 1:19it's a big day. I mean, over the course of the last
- 1:22what about exactly eleven and a half months since we launched, there's been some
- 1:26big days. There's been some big big announcements, but this one's right up
- 1:30there with with I think the biggest days and ship in nation history. We've
- 1:34had some good ones. Merger with DJEN seventy five is definitely a big day
- 1:38for us and something we're proud of and you know, something that we're continuing
- 1:42to work on, but this is this is right up there. Man,
- 1:46this is a big day and we're very excited, and you know, it's
- 1:49a day where you know, we're one step closer to our over our all
- 1:53goal of what we're trying to accomplish here, and you know it's a day
- 1:57where our members are going to benefit, Vina is going to benefit, and
- 2:00anyone out there you know that that stalled the sidelines could potentially benefit as well.
- 2:06So very very excited about today. Yeah, like you said, our
- 2:09goal was always we said from the beginning, sort of our little internal and
- 2:14with you guys out there watching our matra sort of been we'll always continue to
- 2:16improve and add on and that's what we're looking to do. When we started,
- 2:20and I'll kick it back to Hoop. You know, we focused on
- 2:22everything you need to have success with DFS. It led to the main focus
- 2:27and our goal with you guys were pretty transparent about it with the business side
- 2:30of things, with our members inside the walls and the discord that it's everything
- 2:32you need to have success with DFS for less. We've always talked about keeping
- 2:37the price lower all of that. But kick it over to you, Hoop,
- 2:39talk to us a little bit about what we got going on here,
- 2:42man, because it's pretty big and we're very excited about it. Yeah,
- 2:46so, I guess you know. The first thing is, you know,
- 2:47this was eleven and a half months ago when we launched, and you know,
- 2:51the goal was to provide an all encompassing DFS content site at an affordable
- 2:55rate. You know, you and I have been around this industry for a
- 2:59while. We've seen what some of these sites do and the price takes.
- 3:04Eleven and a half months ago, we didn't have the sort of product.
- 3:07We didn't have the all encompassing products. So when we launched, we said,
- 3:09hey, if you like what you're paying for another place, yeah,
- 3:14stick with it, that's fine, but give us a try, let us
- 3:15let us try to improve you, let us earn your business if possible.
- 3:21But we'd always said, you know, if you like something else, you
- 3:23can stick with that too. We wanted to get to the point where we
- 3:25can offer our members, our community, the one stop shop where they can
- 3:30come here and get everything they need, the content for all the main sports,
- 3:32the projections, the core plays. But we're missing something. We knew
- 3:38we were missing something. We've been working at it, so you know,
- 3:42what we're launching today gets us to the point where we have the all encompassing
- 3:46product. We now feel comfortable to say, you know, this is a
- 3:50spot you can come and get all your needs now. Still a little bit
- 3:53of work in progress, as you see when we talk through it. But
- 3:55today, very excited to announce the launch of the Ship Demiser. Been working
- 4:03on it for a while. It's up on the screen here, our own
- 4:06optimizer that will be live on the site tonight. Could not be more excited.
- 4:12Been working on it for a while behind the scenes. Today's the day
- 4:15that we get to release it to the public. Yeah. Do you still
- 4:17got my screen there? Hoop? I just want to make sure yeh lost.
- 4:21Yeah, So big news, ship Demizer. I'm gonna pop it up
- 4:25on the screen just see you guys can see. We'll get to the Byron
- 4:28Nelson later. That's obviously what we're here to talk about, but just to
- 4:30go through it. The optimizer designed to help you ship. So essentially what
- 4:33it is is it's gonna be an awesome project because we feel good. We've
- 4:36been working on this behind the scenes now for quite a while actually, just
- 4:41trying to get this thing in place, and we've been working on it like
- 4:44crazy, trying to make it right. But we figured here's the best way
- 4:46to do this. Let's get it launched, Let's get it to where we
- 4:48want to get it to, and then let's launch it for everybody to try.
- 4:51So we'll get to that in a second. I will tell you off
- 4:54the top that it's going to be free right now for a limited time for
- 4:59all members, so all current members or anyone who signs up. We'll get
- 5:02to that stuff in a second. We'll get access to this and I'll talk
- 5:05more on what it encompasses here in a second, but just want to note
- 5:09this so it the fun part of it will be is it will be a
- 5:13community backed project in the sense that we'll get you using it. We're using
- 5:16it, We're already on it. We're going to be mixing and matching and
- 5:19trying to find different things. There's a couple things. For example, with
- 5:21the MLB one that we want to get added. There's a couple other sports
- 5:26we want to get added. So if you guys have been with us since
- 5:28day one, I think many of our founding family are probably in here watching.
- 5:30They can vouch for us to let you know that when we started this
- 5:33thing, just going back to it, you see our menu is still right
- 5:35here at the top. We did not have all of these sports or anything
- 5:40like this when we first started. So Hoop and I told you to trust
- 5:44us, watch and see what we do. We said the price was going
- 5:46up to six' ninety nine. It still hasn't done that. We said
- 5:48that we would add more stuff. We did add more stuff. We said
- 5:51that we would bring you stuff if we had the right people to bring you
- 5:55it for the job that we required. We did that. So if you
- 5:58guys know what we're about, it's going to be no different with Ship Demizer,
- 6:00where we're gonna be adding on and improving it. But this time it's
- 6:03gonna be more fun because it's gonna be with your help, and it's gonna
- 6:06be an awesome way that you guys can save a ton of money. If
- 6:10you love something that you have now we're not saying, same as we do
- 6:12with the other stuff, you can stick with it, but for right now,
- 6:15this is something you can try out for free. It's already gonna be
- 6:16up and running on the site this evening for PGA, for MLB, and
- 6:23then for NBA Classics. So you guys have questions, you can throw them
- 6:26into the chat. But just to break down a couple more things on it
- 6:29right now. The reason we're calling this sort of the soft launch, the
- 6:31beta test, and the trial period, whatever you want to put on it
- 6:34when it comes to that, and I'll throw it back up there just so
- 6:36you guys can see the details, and it says for a limited time,
- 6:40try it free with any monthly, six month, season or annual membership.
- 6:45So if you're PGA only, you'll get access to the PGA ship demizer,
- 6:47if you're MLB only, you'll get access to the MLB ship demizer, and
- 6:50if you're all access, you'll get access to all three of those. Part
- 6:55of the reason we have said let's bring it out now is because we feel
- 6:57like MLB and PGA are at the forefront of what's going on right now,
- 7:00so it makes the most sense. I know. We're in the NBA Playoffs
- 7:03for the main slates, it will still have it, but the showdown stuff
- 7:06is a work in progress. We're working on that NASCAR MMA, a lineup
- 7:12builder. All these things are still to come and they're going to happen pretty
- 7:15rapidly. So we're confident with that. We're working with the developers daily to
- 7:17try and make this happen. But we want to make sure you guys know
- 7:20how this is going to work. So as it says for a limited time,
- 7:24you can try it free. We'll talk more on the pricing here in
- 7:27a second, but the pricing expires, the codes go away. I'll do
- 7:30all that in a second hoop, But anything else you want to add before
- 7:32we get into that, and then we'll take some questions after before we get
- 7:35into the Byron Nelson. Yeah, So, as you said, like,
- 7:38if you're a member of Monthly or above, like you'll have access to this,
- 7:42and you know it's a trial period right now, we're still working out
- 7:45some of the kinks, boy, except we got it to a point now
- 7:46where we feel comfortable enough to say, hey, give it a try.
- 7:49Hey, if you already have an optimizer that you like and you're using,
- 7:55you know what, We'll be honest with you, because we always are.
- 7:57Maybe don't fully rely on the shift deviser day one, right, don't rely
- 8:01on it from day one. If you have another optimizer that you like and
- 8:05you use, but start to incorporate it into your process, give it a
- 8:09try. Pick maybe a slate you're not even playing, and build some teams
- 8:13and just start playing with it. That's what we want people to do.
- 8:16Now. If you don't have an optimizer, here you go opportunities start incorporating
- 8:20that into your process. But you know, you guys know exactly how we
- 8:24are. We're upfront, we're honest, and that's why it's free right now.
- 8:28But we're going to get it to a point where we feel very comfortable
- 8:31with it and you know, be part of some of the plans and packages
- 8:33that we'll we'll talk about. But uh, in terms of some of these
- 8:39questions, we can kind of hit them real quick. We still actually that's
- 8:43the biggest one. So we always were. We obviously talk to Solver directly,
- 8:46that's just how we do business. We talk to them first. They
- 8:48are still a partner of ours. There is plenty of our members still on
- 8:52it, the Solver, some that will stand by and stick with them,
- 8:54and that's good. We love the Solver, We love what they do.
- 8:56They have other things that we don't have. New tool, they have sims,
- 9:01they have different options that you can go with. You can still add
- 9:03both. Like we said from the start, we price our stuff so that
- 9:07it's affordable and you can add on tool sites for golf tools, you can
- 9:09add on football tool sites. Whatever it is you want out there. But
- 9:13some of the questions that Hoop was just going to bring up all addressed quickly
- 9:16on the first one you had. We will commit to at least sixty days
- 9:20of still pushing everything over to the Solver. And of note, just so
- 9:24people know, like when you go to our stuff, let's go to PGA
- 9:28projections for a second. On the site, there's an excel file, a
- 9:31CSV, and a copy feature. It takes literally thirty seconds to get our
- 9:35projections onto any optimizer that you want. So it's not that we're taking away
- 9:39from them. But obviously when we bring something internal, we are going to
- 9:43focus on that because that's what the majority is going to be based around.
- 9:46But we will still push it out there for at least the next sixty days.
- 9:50We will definitely have tutorials as far as an add on goes. This
- 9:54is what we're saying right now. It is included, it will be very
- 9:56affordable when it gets to our launch and as Hoop said it earlier, we'll
- 10:01launch when we feel like it's ready to go. Right now, we want
- 10:05your help testing it out and it is a bonus for everybody, and it
- 10:07is awesome for everyone to be able to check out. Do you have something
- 10:11else on that one? Whop? I just want to make sure we address
- 10:13that one first. Uh no, I mean and and again this we're working
- 10:18on the updates to get this to a point where we you know, will
- 10:22start to incorporate in some in some packages. What if it's two months down
- 10:26the road, there is there is a situation where it could take a little
- 10:28bit long. This will be free until we feel that it is a completed
- 10:33project. Till it is completed. So you know, like you said in
- 10:37the opening, it's a good opportunity. If there's things that you like,
- 10:39features you like on an optimizer, you can toss them our way and that
- 10:43will be part of buildingess. It will be a community project, like you
- 10:46said, like things that you know people like I get it will, you
- 10:50know, work to make this what our community wants wants it to be.
- 10:54Yeah, and with that said too, we are going to be adding a
- 10:56ship deviser channel to the discord this evening, so you guys will see that
- 11:00everybody will have access to in there to throw ideas out and things that they
- 11:03want. Again, well, we won't get to all them. And like
- 11:05Pop said, will it be a fully completed project when it full launches,
- 11:07No, because it's always going to be a work in progress. The benefit
- 11:11of this being in house is that we want the features we want. We
- 11:15don't just want what somebody else has all the time. We want to be
- 11:18able to say we want this, we want this, and oh we want
- 11:20to sprinkle of that as well, and then we'll get there. So that
- 11:22would be something to note. Hype Gotti shout out to you, says PGA
- 11:26Showdown, Yes, because PGA Showdown is not a well there is captain mode
- 11:31slates. We're not having Captain mode to start, so that's for NBA and
- 11:35MLB. You don't get it right away as the NBA season's winding down,
- 11:39but for the main stuff and we'll see what we can get in there,
- 11:41but for sure, PGA Showdown Round one through four. It's already loaded in
- 11:46there and the slates are loaded underneath the slate drop down Andrew to answer your
- 11:50question, you don't find it at all yet. So members will get it
- 11:52sent out in the full announcement this afternoon and it will be live on the
- 11:56site probably within an hour or two where you could startling around with it,
- 12:00but you will. If you're a member for whatever package you're linked to,
- 12:03you will have access to it. It does not incorporate SI like it's not
- 12:07like a saber SIM. It's not the same as that. It's again a
- 12:11little bit different. And if you have SIMS with the solver, that's a
- 12:13separate project and there would be room for that in the future with everything that
- 12:18we're doing here, but not something that we have at the moment. So
- 12:20just being open about that. Vinny liked your idea, Hoop use it for
- 12:24slates if you aren't playing, just to check it out. So yeah,
- 12:28let's see. And yeah, this is like another thing, just to Michael's
- 12:31pointcause people are going to talk without SIM SIMSIMSIMSIMS. It gets brought up all
- 12:33the time. Our community has had a ton of success not even using SIMS
- 12:37at all and other people, even partners that were with out there, have
- 12:41talked about the SIMS product being such a small base of what they actually do.
- 12:46It's not saying it's not worth it or working. Obviously, there's great
- 12:48DFS players out there using it, some that I'm friends with, and I'm
- 12:50happy that's great. I'm just letting you know that what we have and what
- 12:54they have is different. But there also is a price to be paid for
- 12:58that stuff. You're looking at two or ninety nine dollars a month packages.
- 13:01We are sixty nine dollars a month for that's before discounts for everything we offer
- 13:05right now, including access to this for the time being. Obviously a lot
- 13:09of that will change when we get to what we offer, but just making
- 13:13note of that hoop anything else to add there that you want to go through
- 13:18in terms of our projections, yet, they'll be loaded in there, ready
- 13:20to roll for every slate that that's available. That'll be very very Who came
- 13:26up with who came out with the name shift why? It kind of just
- 13:28was a natural thing, right, I Mean you take ship at Nation optimized
- 13:33and you combine it together. I mean it's just a it's a. It
- 13:35was just a natural fit, you know, Yeah, I love it,
- 13:37you know, I love anything that we could do play on words. Obviously
- 13:39you talk about some of the other stuff, the partnerships, the merger,
- 13:43the ship at Nation education sort of the idea of that was the same type
- 13:46of thing, right, It just rhymed and it made sense to use it.
- 13:48So I think just little things you can look at though, Like in
- 13:52Million Makers and stuff, you can get a certain number of players under a
- 13:56certain percentage so that all your lineups put you in a little bit more of
- 13:58a competitive standpoint. Once you have your player pool. If you go over
- 14:03to something like baseball, there is team stacked settings, There is build settings
- 14:07that you can do similar to that groups all of that, and then if
- 14:09you have your lineups already built, you can actually go into the edit feature
- 14:13and actually see the team names, substitute guys in and out, and change
- 14:18them in and out. So there's a lot of really cool features that you're
- 14:20going to find as you go through it. But this, like I said,
- 14:22well something that we continuously work to improve, and now it's what we
- 14:26say. Everything you need to have success with you as people have been having
- 14:30success without optimizers with our partners all of that stuff, but you are going
- 14:35to still be taken care of when it comes to that. And then Collins
- 14:37question, does the price lock in? That's the next stage. So we
- 14:41don't spend all day on this. Obviously, if you guys have more questions,
- 14:43you could throw them out there, but I'm going to toss this up
- 14:46real quick because we can't be more clear on this. Again. We've talked
- 14:48about transparency and the trust we've hopefully built with you guys over this last eleven
- 14:52and a half months. With two weeks to go until our one year anniversary,
- 14:58we have said since day one, if you go back here for two
- 15:01seconds, I'll pull this one up. We have said that the price is
- 15:03going to six ninety nine since day one. It's still hasn't got there.
- 15:07Almost a year in. We told you today it was going there, that
- 15:11we were going to do it. Two weeks in advance. We are extending
- 15:15it, so this will be the last chance to get in with a fifteen
- 15:18percent off code. Remember right now, the Milli fifteen code also enters you
- 15:22in a draw for up to five hundred bucks cash depending on what plan you
- 15:26sign up for. So we talked about this in the past. This is
- 15:30expiring in one week, so we already talked about this. We'll take a
- 15:33break, we'll come back for our anniversary, but the fifteen percent off codes
- 15:37are going away for the time being after this week and the chance to lock
- 15:41in, and that's the key. So hoop real quick, I'm going to
- 15:43talk about this and then kick it back to you. But if you lock
- 15:46in at five oh nine right now and you pay forty two dollars a month,
- 15:50is what it drops it down to. Five ninety nine is around forty
- 15:54nine. Five oh nine drops you to around forty two dollars a month.
- 15:58That is projections, ownership tool rankings, the core reports, the player poles,
- 16:00everything, the education courses. Everything we add in year two because look
- 16:06what we already did in year one, imagine year two. We're not stopping.
- 16:07So keep that in mind. That's already there, and there is another
- 16:11phase after this. We have something else really exciting that I'm super excited about
- 16:15because it's not my biggest passion that's coming sooner than later, but it's we're
- 16:18gonna let this marinate for a little bit. But just to note, fifty
- 16:22eight dollars you can lock in taking this one down to three hundred ish,
- 16:26this one to five h nine. When you lock that in and then we
- 16:30do go to a full launch. You know, the ship Deviser is going
- 16:33to be at a very affordable rate and much lower than our competitors. That's
- 16:37what we always have stuck by and that's what we're going to continue to stand
- 16:40by. I can't tell you an exact price right now, but I can
- 16:44ensure you. I can assure you that under one hundred bucks is going to
- 16:47be the goal. To get everything that you need all sports, including the
- 16:49SHIF Divisor all access for under one hundred bucks, and then that will include
- 16:53all of the add ons for both SHIF Divisor and the content side, so
- 16:57everything that keeps getting at it and brought on. So we're always trying to
- 17:02keep it upfront with you guys and let you know. But if you're wanting
- 17:04to lock in, if you're already a member, email us info at ship
- 17:08atnation dot com. We'll talk about an upgrade. We'll get you set up
- 17:11by the end of today. If you aren't a member yet, this is
- 17:15your last chance, one more week to sign up and get in at the
- 17:18fifteen percent off it's a lock in. It's not a first payment only.
- 17:22It locks you in so that if you choose to add something on, then
- 17:26you're going to be able to do that at an even lower price versus what
- 17:30everybody else is going to be in at. And of course founding, family
- 17:33members and big guys brought over from the DJN seventy five merger are going to
- 17:37be taken care of as always. I said that from day one. Cell
- 17:40Phone companies, TV companies the two biggest scams in the world. For you're
- 17:44with them for twelve years. But Joe Schmoe can walk off the street and
- 17:48get a TV and a plan for cheaper than you. It makes absolutely zero
- 17:51sense. It drives me nuts. That won't happen here. So everybody can
- 17:53assure they'll be taken care of. But hit us up info at ship atnation
- 17:57dot com. If you're a member out at the Michael says he got his
- 18:00yearly yesterday. You're locked in, good to go. Anything else you want
- 18:03to add there on this before we move on to the next stage. Yeah,
- 18:07I just wanted to, you know, just tie it all back to
- 18:10our goals and our vision for a company moving forward. You know, when
- 18:12we again, when we started this, we want we saw what the industry
- 18:17was doing, the direction they were going. I'll honestly say, from when
- 18:19we started this a year ago, I never thought some of the price tags
- 18:22across the industry would accelerate accelerate like they have. And we've talked about it
- 18:26a bunch on these shows where now the industry standard is basically six hundred dollars
- 18:33per sport. So if you're playing multiple DFS sports and you want content from
- 18:37you're looking like two three some sites four thousand dollars to get everything all the
- 18:41sports you play with an optimizer and whatnot. That is insane to us,
- 18:45and you know, we feel that it turned into like a money grab situation.
- 18:49Oh you see this name at a site, Well, I'm just going
- 18:52to hand them my money. Like, there's no need to do that,
- 18:55and we wanted to create an environment where it wasn't like that. I say
- 18:59it all the time and I still stand by it. Tambo says as well,
- 19:02we could charge a hell of a lot more for this shit and probably
- 19:04make more money as a business. And I'm not joking when I say that
- 19:07we could probably charge you know, fifty percent more. Have a similar customer
- 19:11base, and you and I would be making a hell of a lot more
- 19:15money. But that's not what we are about, and it's never what we'll
- 19:18be about. Do you start a business to make money, Absolutely you do,
- 19:22but you can have the fine line of making money and helping people,
- 19:26and that's what Tamba and myself are all about. This is now a situation
- 19:30where you're getting content for all the main sports with an optimizer and Tampo kind
- 19:34of tease the price because this has always been our goal. I mean,
- 19:37this number has always been our goal. All content for all the main sports
- 19:42and an optimizer for under one hundred dollars or one hundred dollars or less.
- 19:45That has been our goal. We've talked about it from the beginning because this
- 19:48has always been our plan. Always been our plan. We talked about it
- 19:52from the beginning, and we're going to get there and it's going to be
- 19:56a situation where we're just hitting you in the face with that. We're like
- 20:00compared to our competitors, it's a no brainer situation if you're paying for content,
- 20:04and that's what we want. That's what we've set up and very close
- 20:08to accomplishing it. So the price is it's going to be, you know,
- 20:12the best value in the industry, There's no doubt about it. Yeah,
- 20:15customer service a big focus for us here. Obviously, we're trying to
- 20:18make sure we answer emails within half an hour or less. We get after
- 20:22taking care of people in the discord. People know if they tag me in
- 20:23the discord, we'll get on it and help it out as soon as we
- 20:26possibly can. Borrow when I'm not moving and going through everything. But even
- 20:29then, I was trying to stay on top of at least the business side.
- 20:32But like Boop said, everyone else talks about, Oh, people start
- 20:33these sites to get rich all the suff If you won't get paid, if
- 20:37you don't provide value. That's anything you do in life. There's people who
- 20:40sell bags of chips, protein bars, protein powders, whatever. Like just
- 20:44think of the gym atmosphere. It's like, you don't buy it if it's
- 20:47not valuable. What we're trying to make is extremely valuable. We want to
- 20:49make sure you guys get the best possible of everything. And it's kind of
- 20:53like a sport. Business is a sport. We're competitive when it comes to
- 20:56it. In DFS, we're competitive when it comes to business. We want
- 21:00to stay that way. We're offering you everything that we have on the site.
- 21:03Someone said eighteen minutes. Yeah, the Byron Nelson show might be one
- 21:07point eight minutes, because honestly, I don't care that much about this event.
- 21:10But I tell you where I do care about. Over here, we
- 21:11have our projections up ownership and final projections will be tonight. The coreport Value
- 21:17Report, player Pool Slate, Planteer rankings, course at Rankings all up already.
- 21:21We're not waiting to the last minute here. Anybody who's a member has
- 21:22all of our thoughts already and we'll do a show. I'm just saying this
- 21:26is important to us right now, so we're going to talk about it.
- 21:27So to Bart's question, if you missed it earlier, it will be on
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- 27:56of that stuff moving forward. All right, let's get into it Byron Nelson.
- 28:02Two guys in the ten k's No. Five k's. The first thing
- 28:06off the top is the weather. It's actually been brought up. Jason Day
- 28:10was heard saying he thinks it's gonna be lift clean in place. Both days,
- 28:12the rain sort of moved up a little bit, but it sounds like
- 28:15the course isn't in the best condition, so they're gonna try and move it
- 28:18to that. Obviously, this course, for many that know TBC Craig Ranch,
- 28:21the defense here is the wind, and it does not look like,
- 28:23at least like for the first two days, which is what we care about
- 28:26playing classic Slate on how we're handling it, that there's gonna be much wind
- 28:30to worry about. It's gonna be seven to twelve miles per hours sustained,
- 28:33not many heavy gusts at least as of now last I checked. I'll pull
- 28:37it up one more time, but any quick thoughts on the weather when we're
- 28:40getting into it here, it looks like, you know, fifteen mile per
- 28:42hour type gus, maybe a little more on Friday morning, but just nothing
- 28:47too serious for me to worry about. From that, just looks like everybody's
- 28:49gonna be throwing darts, and I kind of like the AMPM just because they'll
- 28:52be getting to go out early and just fire away first thing. But we'll
- 28:56talk more about it when we go through those tiers. Yeah, in terms
- 28:59like the wind and stuff, nothing's really standing out. Like you said,
- 29:02there's there's rain, thunderstorms potentially for the first two days that could complicate things.
- 29:07Lift cleaning place is always just a birdy fest. Like these guys are
- 29:11too good, you know, to be able to you know, have them
- 29:14pick up the ball and set it exactly how they want it and then hit
- 29:15a golf shot like they're gonna They're gonna tear up basically any course with that
- 29:18sort of format, So we can expect, you know, low scores for
- 29:22sure. Wave stacks are always viable. I mean, you're you're probably one
- 29:26of the best in the industry at it where you're just naturally building wave stacks
- 29:30on a weekly basis, and if you if you kind of fall into something
- 29:33where you know, the field or the industry is not seeing an advantage where
- 29:37you're going to have some teams that are on the good side if they're there,
- 29:41does end up being an advantage. So, you know, nothing distinct
- 29:45though in terms of I want to focus on these guys te and off at
- 29:48this time. You know, winds aren't aren't all that crazy at all for
- 29:51for the first two days. Yeah, That's how I'm looking at it.
- 29:53I think I talk about that enough with you know the Male show that I
- 29:57do obviously every week it's out now you guys check it out on the Male
- 30:00Media Network. But we talked about the setup around. You know, if
- 30:04you're playing the difference between weather wave stacking and just wave stacking. I think
- 30:08some of these weeks, especially Texas, with wind, weather changing things like
- 30:11that, it's always a good time to stack anyway. Plenty of these Texas
- 30:15events where we've seen big time stacks work. God, it's one way to
- 30:18get to correlation naturally. It's also a way that makes sense to leave money
- 30:22on the table all times people are spending out all their salary. Well,
- 30:23when you're wave stacking, especially in Showdown, this makes even more sense.
- 30:26We've had these conversations in the past our guy Matt, who's been dominant in
- 30:30Showdown to QS Matt twenty three and people mad at him for leaving three and
- 30:34five K on the table. It's like, well, it's Showdown. It's
- 30:37kind of the setup. Some of my biggest wins and Showdown I have been
- 30:38twenty five hundred and three K on the table. You could apply that to
- 30:42main slate as well, because you're just playing a wave. It's like,
- 30:45if they go low in that wave, it's definitely possible. So I think
- 30:49that's part of it. We'll give you a pass cap and always coming back
- 30:52around. We appreciate you and this and for it. We know you know.
- 30:55Sometimes the thumbnail could just say launch show plus this, and I feel
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- 31:00We try and keep it down. One thing we don't do though. You
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- 31:12make advertising money that way, but we prefer to stick with what we think
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- 31:19think that's a thing there for sure. And then Nick shout out to our
- 31:22guy Lsu Nick, absolute heater of all time. I know people have been
- 31:26asking him for his bets this week, So scale back your betting, Nick,
- 31:30because when everyone starts tailing, that's when it starts to go downhill.
- 31:33But dominant run of ten to fifteen k wins betting and he shows me the
- 31:40cards like it's he's betting your five to six guys. Our man Nick is
- 31:42the king of you. Look up receipts in the dictionary. He got him
- 31:47not everyone else does. So love to see that from our guy Nick,
- 31:48he's definitely doing it that way. So yeah, as far as his point,
- 31:53we will have tutorials for this, Like this is gonna be the difference
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- 32:01other guys and girls on our team being able to go through and promote
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- 32:12work on it together to make it the best possible out there and then you
- 32:15guys decide what you want to go with. But with that said, we
- 32:20are gonna have way more in depth tutorials breaking it all down of how we're
- 32:22using it, and we're gonna be using it a ton on the shows moving
- 32:27forward, letting people know what it's all about. We're never shy to you
- 32:30know, Oh we got to hide that, that's the secret sauce. It's
- 32:31like, we'll show it off, let you guys see it. So definitely
- 32:35excited for that. Who let's get in. Let's take this differently. Let's
- 32:37go the nine K range all the way up in the spirit of time and
- 32:42only also because they only put two guys in the ten k range. It's
- 32:45Speed and it's Day. I even have to change our tier rankings on the
- 32:50site for everybody because it says ten k and up. I was like,
- 32:52well, Lee came through in the clutch Speed and Day. No shit,
- 32:57your two favorite guys in the ten k range in the ten k range.
- 33:00So if we do nine k and up we can have a bit more of
- 33:04a conversation. I outlined quite a bit in the PGA slate plan this week.
- 33:07I think there's a ton of angles of approaching that you could do stuff
- 33:10to get different. But what's your thoughts on this nine K and uprange?
- 33:15For what you see, what you like, and then also how you think
- 33:17other people are gonna be handling it. Yeah, I mean it's tough because
- 33:22Speif has kind of been struggling and he's in there at ten to nine.
- 33:25He's the favorite to win. He's missed what four three out of his last
- 33:30five been a misscut, had the thirty ninth at RBC Heritage and tenth at
- 33:35Falleerro But man, this is such a weak field where you know, you
- 33:38really have to start weighing these options and looking like Okay, what if Speed
- 33:43comes out and finishes like eighteenth this week, there's a route where he's a
- 33:47guy that you might need because a lot of these dudes at the top could
- 33:52have bad weeks. So I don't know, like I wanted to fade speF
- 33:55I did or go underweight on him. Zalatorus Withdrew kind of adjusted my mindset
- 34:00this week, to be honest with you, when when Xalatorris Xalataurris Withdrew,
- 34:05I am probably gonna have some Speed. I am gonna have some Day two
- 34:08guys that I really don't like playing. But I just really think this is
- 34:12a week where you have to temper your expectations for basically everyone, and even
- 34:15in the upper range. In the past few weeks, you know the Scotti
- 34:19Scheffler stuff when he's expensive, Like, yeah, you're you're gonna need Scotty
- 34:22to go out there and finish fifth to pay it off. Now he's done
- 34:25that basically every event this year. But I really think our expectations for the
- 34:30guys up top have to come down a little bit just based on this field.
- 34:32So you know, speak day up top. I think you know I'm
- 34:36not gonna go like crazy with them, But they're gonna be in my player
- 34:38pool, especially you know, if I'm built. I don't know exactly what
- 34:42I'm doing this week, if I'm gonna play twenty or just do one fifty,
- 34:45But either way, I think these guys will be in the player pool.
- 34:49Just for that argument, I just kind of made where I think,
- 34:51you know, a top twenty could potentially be enough for these guys seeing family
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- 35:22So anybody like Rinn says, well it's in Beto, Well it's trial testing
- 35:24all that. It's included for anyone with monthly or more weekly. Always stay
- 35:29on the outside looking in. You got to get in the gym, you
- 35:30got to list some weights, you got to put the effort in when you
- 35:34do that and you take it seriously, then then we'll get you in on
- 35:37discord and on the ship of miser. But for right now, definitely want
- 35:40to keep that noted. Go ahead, and still you can still use your
- 35:43gym analogy. You know that some of these gyms offer the daily pass,
- 35:45like you're not actually a member, but you can come try it out for
- 35:47a day, but you don't get all the benefits of the you know,
- 35:51full members at the gym, so you probably not really shape when you show
- 35:53up for a day, right, exactly exactly. So then the nine K
- 35:57range a lot of options. I prefer the guys in the bottom. Think
- 36:00Tom Hogy is a phenomenal play at ninety one. Tom Kim at nine k,
- 36:04you know the argument was at his last event, did he find something
- 36:07round fourth the Masters? Well, yeah, it looks like you did to
- 36:09finish eighteenth at the RBC. Heritage had a solid week there. So I'm
- 36:14in on. I'm in on Kim. I like Norin at ninety five hundred,
- 36:17playing very solid golf. Seawu Kim at ninety eight. I think people
- 36:22kind of bock at that price tag, but man, he's got he's got
- 36:24win upside, and yeah, I don't like paying ninety eight hundred for Seawu
- 36:30Kim, but I think he's a solid option this week. Your boy Sung
- 36:32Jay, you know the story on this show. I don't really speak on
- 36:35Sung Jay. That is that that's your role. Adam Scott, I don't
- 36:38know. I just don't know what the upside is. I don't know.
- 36:43Yeah, with the Adam Scott, I just don't know really what the upside
- 36:46is. I don't love him all that much. You know, mid move
- 36:50I think is always like a GPP type target. His you know, expected
- 36:53finishes can be you know, first or miscut, which is what you like
- 36:58for for GPP. I think like Benny On you can toss in that category
- 37:02as well. And Steven Yager at ninety two has had some nice finishes obviously
- 37:07this year. So, you know, just summing it up, my favorite
- 37:12guys in this range of the nine kN above probably gonna be like Hogi and
- 37:15Kim, guys I really don't like all that much, Definitely like Adam Scott,
- 37:19and I don't know, probably your boy Sung Jay, which I'm sure
- 37:22you're gonna try to convince convince me to play. I think we'll bring we'll
- 37:25bring keeper cutback for the Wells Fargo next week. Get a signature of it.
- 37:29Yeah, yeah, we can have some fun with that, but just
- 37:30you know, keep it rolling here. I'm gonna talk more about process anyway
- 37:34when I get to it. But I love bring the noise. The comment
- 37:36there shut up to bring the noise, always supporting says I'm definitely gonna use
- 37:38it to check it out. That's kind of the key. That's the best
- 37:42part. If you didn't ever have an optimizer, you always wondered, should
- 37:45I check one out? What's it mean, what's it look like, how
- 37:46does it work? All these things? That's gonna be the key. Now
- 37:49you can just play around with one and see what you think. Rin completely
- 37:52lying to us unless he's double shake weights he's talking about. Are those michelob
- 37:57ultras that he had on the desk the other day when we saw, you
- 37:59know, he's running low. We were talking about our TV setups and he
- 38:01got the beer on the table at eleven am. So gotta respect that.
- 38:06Jordan. I'm still in the gym, man. This is a you know,
- 38:07take a full pumpkin down to a half. You can see the line
- 38:10starting to come in. We'll take this big head down a little bit and
- 38:14get after. This is the thing about twenty twenty four, and I don't
- 38:17think this will be too popular. Shout out to my guy Hag, He's
- 38:21the man. He says how popular. I don't think very popular because the
- 38:24one note is obviously in Mayo and I went through this earlier on the show.
- 38:28Today was the AMPM stack. It is a stack that you can just
- 38:31start your lineups with for AMPM and go that route. You automatically skip the
- 38:35nines. And that's what I was gonna talk about. There is a very
- 38:38you know, weighted roster construction this week. It's two to three nine K
- 38:44guys, one eight K guy or no eight K guys, maybe two if
- 38:47you go two nine to two eights. These are the three most popular starts.
- 38:51Essentially three nine k's, two nine k's with an eight or two nine
- 38:55k's with two eights. That's kind of the three most popular starts that I
- 39:00see this week. So anything that involves using speed and day or speed or
- 39:05day and then dropping down should be different. For example, see Woo,
- 39:08probably the most popular guy on the slate. If you have him as your
- 39:12second guy in do you think he's gonna be that popular. Really, Oh
- 39:15yeah, really, I haven't really looked much at ownership. That's interesting to
- 39:19me because I figured people would look at ninety eight hundred for Sea WU and
- 39:22say that's that's a little steep. No, he's popping off the page for
- 39:25everybody, so he'll be there and if people trust and day because the speed
- 39:30thing is interesting somewhat because you know everyone's sinking the same thing. He's god
- 39:35come in extremely low owned. He might not, he might still come in
- 39:37at like fifteen times. I would definitely take the under on that Sea Woo
- 39:43number, by the way, Like I just I can't, yeah, just
- 39:46pulling it up in some spots over twenty five, like I'll take I'll take
- 39:51the under on that. I don't think a friendly hundo bet twenty five per
- 39:54dow four and a half. I mean what some of the stuff is looking
- 39:59like twenty eight, twenty nine. I mean I could see twenty five take
- 40:01over twenty five. Then did you take under over twenty five? I'll take
- 40:06over twenty five just real fun, take yeah, take under yeah, for
- 40:08for fun, that's it. That's I just don't I just can't imagine people
- 40:13paying ninety eight hundred for Sea wu at that rate. I just don't see
- 40:16it happening. Yeah, maybe that could be the thing, but I just
- 40:19think it's good. They don't love the guys at the top. What I
- 40:21was gonna say about Speed, This speat has owned this course, but he
- 40:24also has, you know, not played well at the other courses that he's
- 40:28had pretty good history at as well. Yeah, it's a strong point this
- 40:30week. I think that is a very strong point because a lot of I
- 40:32think people Speed is a guy that people rely on the course history for.
- 40:36But like you said, this year, other spots where he's had strong course
- 40:38history, he's played like shit. Yeah, he still didn't show up at
- 40:43those spots either. So I like him still. I like the AM spot.
- 40:45I like skipping the nine k range with him. I like him being
- 40:49in the mix. Someone was teasing earlier, there's no way that I that
- 40:52they can rig it, but they're gonna love some Speed to keep the TV
- 40:54ratings even existing, let alone of it. If he's not in the mix,
- 40:58if he misses the cut, it's gonna be a bad week for the
- 41:00ratings. These are the events that everyone loves, Like there's such an etche
- 41:04in these events, right Like with all these random golfers. It's so good
- 41:07for the product. Like, man, you gotta give these got to give
- 41:09these guys a chance, right, you got to give these no name dudees
- 41:12a chance. They need they need their spot, They got to get in
- 41:15there. But I get it, But it looks like it looks like Sea
- 41:19Wou, Yager HOGI and then some mix the other guys Nora and for sure
- 41:22in the mix. But maybe that's what pulls a little from Sea Wu.
- 41:25So he does come down and I lose the bet, but I'm still comfortable
- 41:28saying he comes in at twenty five, So I'm good there. But I
- 41:31think you know some of the other ways is if you take one of those
- 41:35guys speak or Day and drop in, and that'll help us sort of transition
- 41:38into this eight K range. Is it looks like at most one is how
- 41:43the majority of lineups end up maybe two because you see like a Shank Mitchell
- 41:47or a Shank Hubbard. Fine, but that's with two nine K guys.
- 41:52The three nine k's are skipping it, and most of the things up top
- 41:55are still gonna go Speek or Day to one of the guys and land in
- 42:00the pocket. That will get to later on. So I think the AK
- 42:05range is pretty interesting. Who are some of the guys that you like here
- 42:07in this AK range? And stand down, I know you always like Hubbard,
- 42:08Shank some of those guys, but Ownership is popping a little bit on
- 42:13those guys as well. I love this range, man, It's got a
- 42:15lot of my guys in it. I don't even mind Keith Mitchell at the
- 42:19top. Nice thing about Keith Keith Mitchell, he's one of those boomer bust
- 42:22guys like he can come out and just like nuke this, especially for like
- 42:24one round. I think he's great at eighty eight. Dtree's been playing well
- 42:30and there's some sort of stat that like the par five's here or you got
- 42:36to score on him. He's one of the better par five scores I believe.
- 42:38I don't know the exact number. You guys know me. I'm not
- 42:40a big stats guy for PGA, but I think he's done all in part
- 42:45fives. I think the Sneaky play, I guess. I don't know how
- 42:46Sneaky does. I don't look super close at Ownership, but McKenzie Hughes has
- 42:51been playing well and he was a guy I don't know what event it was,
- 42:54but he was super cheap. I was kind of on them all week
- 42:58and he played pretty well in the result he's been but he got thirtieth,
- 43:01twenty six at the Players, third at Vallas bar fourteenth at the Houston Open,
- 43:07in thirty ninth at the RBC Herites. And people are going to look
- 43:09at eighty six hundred for McKenzie Hughes, who's typically in the sixth K range,
- 43:13and I think they're gonna say, man, I'm going to go elsewhere.
- 43:15I like McKenzie Hughes. Adam Shanks one of my guys. You guys
- 43:19know, I play him all the time. Matt McNeely definitely going to be
- 43:22in on him at eighty two hundred. I know the results have not been
- 43:25great the last couple forty fifth at the Velis Baron in fifty eight at the
- 43:30Texts oak him, but he's making cuts and now we're in a very weak
- 43:32field. This is one of the weaker fields. I think he can have
- 43:35success here. Hubbard. You know, I don't need to say anything about
- 43:37Hubbard. I think he's really under priced. Like I think in this field,
- 43:40Hubbard could easily be a nine K guy. And I'm still interested in
- 43:44Hubbard. This week, the most disrespectful price tag on the slate goes to
- 43:47Mark Hubbard. This week, I'll be all over Hubbard and then ride nap.
- 43:52Not a ton of interest, but you know, some of my favorite
- 43:54plays on the slate are in this range, and like, if you start
- 43:59here, you can do a lot with roster construction. You don't need to
- 44:01mess with like the six K range, which is pretty terrible. Lower sevens
- 44:07pretty terrible as well. So a lot you can do in this eight K
- 44:09range. Yeah, I'm gonna go back to the second one of the notes.
- 44:12Someone mentioned our editor was in it earlier saying that the stone is up,
- 44:15and I just brought it up. I don't mind this on a week
- 44:17like this, especially to share a little. This sheet is the stone,
- 44:21but it is the stone, nuts. I talk about it all the time.
- 44:22To our guy dejenneral seventy five. We hopped on a call with him
- 44:25yesterday planning out some stuff. He's in good spirits, loves all the support
- 44:30that's coming his way. We're always rooting him to keep it rolling. And
- 44:31he said he's going to be back for a couple of different things, and
- 44:35so maybe some stuff on that in the future, but he's trying to get
- 44:37back doing some streams things like that, So shout out to James. But
- 44:40this sheet is incredible and it's got pretty good ownership on it for what I'm
- 44:45seeing. I was trying to show everybody, see if I can just back
- 44:47it up one and do it this way. Who but if you want everything
- 44:51in one place, That's why everybody loves when this comes out. The sheet
- 44:53has just dialed in. It's got our final projections, ownership, some of
- 44:58the subjective stuff kind of see like what we see that means. But your
- 45:00tee times are right there, the win equity, the top twenty percent equity,
- 45:06like everything you need is all on one sheet, and you know we're
- 45:08under I think a lot of the market is sort of above that. Twenty
- 45:12twenty eight, twenty nine you talked about hoop on a guy like already moon
- 45:15walking back a little, and then it may moon walk walk back even more
- 45:19and you may correct at under twenty five. But I like our numbers here.
- 45:22They look pretty clean for what I'm kind of suspecting it comes in at
- 45:27I'm not sure like Nora and Scott could flip. Sure, but when people
- 45:30think like Speed's getting nothing or min Wu's getting nothing, like people are thinking
- 45:34single digits. I don't necessarily agree, So I think these numbers reflect a
- 45:37good a good setup of that all of this stuff loaded into the ship divisor
- 45:42as far as projections, the ceiling, the ownership, and then we'll get
- 45:45to the other stuff when we add it on. But like we said,
- 45:47for right now, you'll at least have some of this stuff in there for
- 45:51you guys. So just to keep that in mind, that's another thing that
- 45:53you get that comes with it other guys, I guess, I guess just
- 45:58to talk about hoop like perspective wise, from looking at this range, it's
- 46:02definitely more of like a roster construction thing because you've got you know, maybe
- 46:07you get your Shank Mitchell lineup, for example, your Shank Hobard lineup,
- 46:12But how do people get three or four of these guys in if you like
- 46:15McNeely, Shank Hughes who you talked about, who we just showed, it
- 46:17is gonna be a little bit a little bit ownership and maybe not too much.
- 46:22The best way to do it is to play like a low nine K
- 46:23guy. So what if you start with you know, whether it's min Wu
- 46:29Yager Hog you like Hagar or you Hager Hogy Yager, pick your choice.
- 46:32But if you like one of those two and you start with them, you
- 46:37can still pick up some of those dudes. You said, you really like
- 46:38Mitchell, you really like Shank, you really like Hubver, you could see
- 46:42these things happening. Well, what happens when you start with four of those
- 46:45guys and then build down from there? Yes, you're leaving some stuff up
- 46:47above, but you're not on speed day. See Wou you don't have Scott
- 46:52or Norin or maybe you start with one of them, but I guess that
- 46:54would be My point is, like you said, did the industry talk those
- 46:58guys up so much that they them out of it? We'll see if they
- 47:00get squeezed, But I do think even if they do have some of that
- 47:04ownership there, they'll be second and third guys in. Like I said earlier,
- 47:08how do you flip that? If everyone's on a two or three nine
- 47:13K lineup? And I say everyone, you guys know, I mean the
- 47:14majority, how do you flip that? You start with one of those guys,
- 47:17you make them your first in Just like my Sea Woo point earlier if
- 47:21everyone's starting with sea Wu, you make Sea Wu with Speeth or Day as
- 47:24your second guy in in the nine K range, if you just take your
- 47:28spot at the bottom, whether it's Hogi Yager or Kim Tom Kim, you
- 47:31could start with one of those guys, pick up three eight K guys and
- 47:36go down from there and it would do two things. It would get you
- 47:39more eight K guys we most have two at most, and it would put
- 47:43you in different ranges. In the seven K range where most are landing in
- 47:47the same pocket, we'll transition with that said Hoop is in the seven K
- 47:52range, there's forty one guys, so it's different than when we have the
- 47:55five K range. So they threw more in there. But what it's done
- 48:00is it's made it so even if a guy like Gim gets to that twelve
- 48:02to fifteen range, you still have a ton of guys at that's seven to
- 48:07ten or that four to eight, whatever you want to put your range on
- 48:09it. You have a ton of guys that you can get leverage on whoever
- 48:13you want. Pretty much in this range, I just don't see it as
- 48:15cut and dry as it usually is. It's really spread out. So one
- 48:20thing I do know a lot of people are landing on Kevin You, Peter
- 48:23Quest, Taylor Pendrith, justin lower like that's the area that you're seeing people
- 48:29land with. Doug gim So seventy three to seventy seven hundred really popular.
- 48:34But after that, and even on that range, you can still get tons
- 48:37of leverage if you want. So how are you handling the seven K range?
- 48:39Yeah, it's huge range. I mean there's just so many options,
- 48:43and honestly, man, you start coming down here and it's not super appealing.
- 48:45I mean, these are guys that we typically see in the sixes,
- 48:49you know, and you really got to sell your stuff. I do like
- 48:52Davis Thompson at the top. I think he's I'm just gonna run off some
- 48:55of the guys that are interested. There's just so many dudes in this range,
- 48:59Like, so many guys that are in this range, it's hard to
- 49:01kind of talk through it all. So guys that kind of stand out to
- 49:05me as plays. And again, I don't know if I'm gonna play all
- 49:07these guys, but I will be playing Davis Thompson up top. I think
- 49:09he's a fun option. I don't mind shame his power at seventy nine.
- 49:14Hostler has not been playing all that well. Not a ton of interests there.
- 49:17Doug Gimm seventy seven. I think he's a guy that could play well
- 49:22at this event. Again, the results have been up and down lately,
- 49:24but I think this could be like a bounce back spot for a guy like
- 49:28Doug Gim talked about Kevin Yu, Peter Quest. You know, Peter Quest,
- 49:32you're kind of banking on. You know the last two results. You
- 49:37had the tenth at the Valero, had the ninth at the crass put Jacana.
- 49:42Not a great field, but you know this isn't a great field either,
- 49:45So I think he can definitely have some success. We saw it last
- 49:47year. To allow or Pendrith our guys to consider. I don't mind Andrew
- 49:52Novak at seventy four. You know, the one thing as I'm talking through
- 49:55this range, I just I don't think we're gonna still a lot of ownership
- 49:59on anyone. I think it's going to get spread out. So if you
- 50:00have guys you like here, it doesn't take much to get over the field
- 50:04on them. Schmid, I've been playing a lot of at seventy two.
- 50:07I'm good with that. Toasty seventy one, Take a chance on him.
- 50:13Guys are in seventy one, Take a chance on him. Chustin Hadley's also
- 50:17at seventy one, and he's a guy that I think you can only play
- 50:22in these weak or field events. You know, the result has been very
- 50:25bad for him. Four straight miss cuts. These are just like dart throws.
- 50:29Guys, you're not playing a ton of just guys. You're mixing in
- 50:31the player pool. Hiss Asune if that's how you pronounced it. Seven K,
- 50:37Norman sam Ryder all guys that I might consider playing, But again,
- 50:43like this is not a strong seven K range, and I don't want to
- 50:46get overexposed to anyone. Like if you're building teams in an optimizer, I
- 50:52to tap these guys at like eight to ten percent, Like, I don't
- 50:53want more than eight to ten percent of anyone in this range, especially the
- 50:57lower end. Like you know, Davis Thompson's probably my favorite in this range,
- 51:00but he's all the way at the top at seventy nine. When it
- 51:02comes to roster construction, you know, playing one of these guys in the
- 51:07low sevens, if you plug that guy in like you play, I just
- 51:10randomly kicked clicked Michael Kim seventy two hundred. I'm at eighty five hundred,
- 51:15well, eighty five sixty, So I can go to and hammer that eight
- 51:19K range if I want, I can go Hubbard, I can go McK
- 51:21neely, and then I'm up to eighty eight hundred. So I do think
- 51:24people will go that route. Play one seven K range guy and then a
- 51:29lot of those eight to lower nine K. You can fit in five guys
- 51:32in that range. So I think that is a route that people will go.
- 51:35But again, it is tough to sell yourself on some of these guys.
- 51:38It's a high risk range for sure, And I would feel more like
- 51:42to what your point was, And I said the same in the slate plan
- 51:45talked about a little bit earlier, like you can still play your guys even
- 51:47if you think, like, don't talk yourself off a guy because he's gonna
- 51:51be eight percent and the guy beside him is gonna be five or six.
- 51:52It's who you want to play. But like some of the notes, if
- 51:54you think Quest is going to be too high owned and it's too high for
- 51:58you, I get it. But you can look at that situation and say
- 52:01he came tenth and ninth. Ken Kim at like no ownership. Right above
- 52:06him came fourteenth and sixth in the exact same events. He just doesn't have
- 52:09the fourteenth place here last year, but he kind of should set up well
- 52:14for this course with the little bit you know, parfis the bombing scoring things
- 52:17like that you could see, so I just think you can get whoever you
- 52:21want in this range. Another interesting exercise, and man and I did this
- 52:23earlier today, was like all those seventy five and seventy four hundred guys,
- 52:28you could play them all when everyone's deciding between them, play a bunch of
- 52:31them. If they all feel good to you, play that or skip the
- 52:35range completely. And that's why I brought up different roster constructions earlier. If
- 52:37you go with that low nine three eight k guy, you can play a
- 52:42high seven, a high seven story and a low seven or a six.
- 52:45You can maybe get into another eight and drop to a low six. There's
- 52:49lots of different ways you could go where you skip it entirely. And if
- 52:52it's gonna be a birdie fest, and like we see right now, I
- 52:55mean, at least for the majority of it looks like the first two to
- 52:58three days maybe Sunday gets little windy, but as of right now, it
- 53:00looks pretty solid on Thursday Friday, let me just try and pull the full
- 53:07real quick. I think Mayo was saying earlier today that Sunday was a bit
- 53:10hectic. Yeah, Saturday is pretty much the same, and then Sunday maybe
- 53:14you could say there's a little bit more wins. But now you've got three
- 53:15rounds under your belt. For your guys that have made the cut, there's
- 53:19gonna be scoring. So a lot of those guys in the upper sixes can
- 53:22score all the same as the sevens. And I'll go there with you who
- 53:24just because the difference between some of these guys that you just mentioned who you
- 53:29like, and then you go to like Chandler Phillips, Birdie Machine Lately,
- 53:32Jimmy Stanger, your boy, Nick Hardy, Kevin Tway, Nick Dunlap.
- 53:37You know, whatever they've done the last couple of rounds or a couple of
- 53:39tournaments. Fine, But in general, these guys can obviously put up a
- 53:44score just like those other guys and make the cut just as easily. It's
- 53:45not like it's way off their top twenty odds. Things like that are all
- 53:50very similar. It's not gonna surprise you if that happens. So to me,
- 53:54I think you're fine. Like super WHOA says you don't have to go
- 53:58Yeah, I think that's a really good point to talk about too. Like
- 54:00I think that is a strong point. You can you can play six solid
- 54:05golfers without coming down in the sixty nine hundred dollars range. And that's just
- 54:08a product of the pricing here where we only have two options over ten k.
- 54:13You know, you have Speef at ten to nine, you have Jason
- 54:15Day at ten to four. You do not need to come down to the
- 54:17sixty nine hundred grande. But that being said, that's what most people are
- 54:21going to do. Most people are not coming down under sixty nine hundred because
- 54:24it's freaking nasty down there. It's gross. So if you do have some
- 54:29guys you like, you know, your roster construction could look a little bit
- 54:31different. But I will say for sure, like six k range is fucking
- 54:36gross this week. I just disagree that. I don't like to his point
- 54:38to what you just said, they're the same dudes, Like I just they
- 54:42are the same, at least at the top. Stanger Phillips, Tway dun
- 54:46Lap Lap. Are you finally putting some respect? Are you finally putting some
- 54:51respect on my boy's name. I'm saying, there's it's just another guy that's
- 54:54the same dude. I'm saying they're all bad. Hey, it's progress on
- 54:59this show. That's progress. I'm saying most of them are all bad,
- 55:01especially from seventy. But if you did specifically, you did specifically mention mister
- 55:07Stack, we're making progress. We're making progress, just as bad as some
- 55:12of the guys in the low sevens, but just as good as what you
- 55:15need for this tournament. Yes, yeah, okay, okay, you go.
- 55:19You gotta get the Tampa word spin in there. I get it.
- 55:21Don't worry you guys have really done shit. And so that's the point.
- 55:24And you are gonna want to sprinkle some of these guys, now, don't
- 55:27sprinkle all of them. But it's saying, like again, when you're picking
- 55:30your spots down here, for whatever reasoning you're backing them, whether it's something
- 55:34you see in the stone, something you see on your stat site that you
- 55:37go and use, or whatever it might be, that's fine, but then
- 55:40get your stand behind them so that if they are if you are right,
- 55:43if it is someone put Rico Huey week. If you get him right,
- 55:46he does get you a couple eagles. Ritt. You don't have VR here
- 55:50this week, so you gotta go somewhere. If you use him, then
- 55:52use them, don't just build them in your one. I mean again,
- 55:54if you play single entry, I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to
- 55:57people that are playing multi entry, but don't try and sprinkle well fifteen guys
- 56:00down here because of what I just said, pick your guys, sprinkle them
- 56:04in, but definitely know that well, you don't have to go below sixty
- 56:07nine hundred. Most people aren't, so you're not actually getting different by not
- 56:13going down there. You're right, you don't have to. But it's in
- 56:15the slate plan. I got more on it. I think people are staying
- 56:17away from it. So just by having a couple of six K guys,
- 56:21maybe my guy Mac Meisner, you go to Chris Gottterup or any of these
- 56:24guys, people get so hung up on oh, you're picking that guy,
- 56:28he's a loser. No, I'm talking about roster construction. The name is
- 56:31just whoever put a blank thing in front of them, whatever your process is,
- 56:36put a blank thing in front of that side and build on what looks
- 56:38good. You'll get a bunch of names in there you think are losers,
- 56:42but you like them for the other reason. So you can't talk out both
- 56:45sides. You have to go off of that. So lots of guys down
- 56:47here in this at least sixty five to sixty nine hundred range, I can
- 56:52see using our favorites are up on the site, But then after that it
- 56:55gets pretty bleak. I agree there where down the board. Then you're just
- 56:59taking shot and no one's gonna have enough of any of these guys. They're
- 57:01all point one percent. You'll run into a Malnatti situation when he won,
- 57:07where it's like it almost wasn't even needed. It just ended up being the
- 57:09one that got through. There was a bunch of lineups behind that that didn't
- 57:13even need them that week. Because it's a point one percent guy, you
- 57:15not only not only does nobody have him, but they probably don't have him
- 57:20with the right stuff, right. That's kind of where that comes from.
- 57:22Anything else you want to add wop when it comes to this six K range
- 57:24or building out lineups for the Byron Nell The CJ Cup Byron Nelson, Yeah,
- 57:30I mean, I do agree with your main point though, like mid
- 57:32sevens in below, I mean, it's just a lot of the same dudes.
- 57:36Like, yes, if you go all the way down to six k,
- 57:38there's dudes I've never heard of. Yeah, they're probably worse than the
- 57:40upper sixes and low sevens, but it is going to be very hard to
- 57:45pinpoint who the guys are, you know, sixty seventy two hundred in below.
- 57:50Like, it's a very volatile week with this sort of field, but
- 57:54everyone's going to be super lowed. If you have guys that you like,
- 57:58you know, stick with them. But it's it's tough, and I do
- 58:00think a lot of people will avoid it because you can quite easily like.
- 58:02And that's why the speef builds I think have a chance to be a little
- 58:07bit different this week, because you are going to have to embrace some of
- 58:09that risk of the lower sevens and upper sixes. Potentially a lot of people
- 58:14won't want to do that. But yeah, like you said, we'll have
- 58:16our favorites up there on the site for sure, a lot of them are.
- 58:21I mean, I think all the content's basically done, which is definitely
- 58:23something we pride ourselves on. Getting our stuff up nice and early, so
- 58:27our members aren't sitting around waiting until right before lock to see what we're on.
- 58:31Yeah, everything's up now. I don't know there's anything else to change,
- 58:35unless you just might have to. Did you put your exposures? Well?
- 58:37When I build teams of being either that was just a very last thing.
- 58:40Everything else is done and then we're opening the discord for questions. I'm
- 58:45gonna stick around for quite a while this afternoon, just because people probably have
- 58:49questions with ship Demizer once it launches. But if you missed it off the
- 58:52top, we said, coming up on our one year anniversary, we wanted
- 58:54to get to everything you need. One of the big things we were missing
- 58:58was an optimizer, so we launched shipde Mizer, the optimizer design to help
- 59:02you shift. So we've put our time into it. We're gonna have a
- 59:06community behind it putting their time into it, and for a limited time,
- 59:09you can try it for free with any monthly, six month, season or
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- 59:17so you'll be able to get access to that. It will go live
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- 59:22but code Milli fifteen gets you into the draw for up to five hundred
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- 59:35you lock in the lowest price possible to set yourself up for the future.
- 59:38If you missed it and you didn't see it, we've got it up here
- 59:43now I'm gonna move this off go to this, but we have it set
- 59:45up already for this week for what will go in tonight Round one showdown stuff,
- 59:51but the main stuff will be in there when it goes live this afternoon.
- 59:52You'll be able to set it all up and go test it out.
- 59:55Your build settings are here, your groups are here. Your lineups will show
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- 1:00:04who anything else you want to add before we get out of here.
- 1:00:07No, I mean we talked about a ton obviously in the opening, but
- 1:00:10yeah, a big day for us over here at Shiping Nation, launching the
- 1:00:14ship Demiser and getting us, you know, one step closer to being that
- 1:00:19all encompassing DFS product. We're going to obviously improve this thing. We have
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- 1:00:45Again, code MILLI fifteen is the way to do it. To get
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- 1:02:15Let's have a good week, everybody, we thank you, appreciate all
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