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0:04
Speaker 1: Really good for Tyson.
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Speaker 2: It'll be a good fit, it'll kind of help him out.
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Speaker 2: Can you kind of go into a little bit more
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Speaker 2: on that and why your system will help Tyson and
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Speaker 2: what you're trying to expecting happen.
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Speaker 3: We try to when we look at the players, all
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Speaker 3: the guys we have is we want to emphasize their
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Speaker 3: skill set and so how we play that position and
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Speaker 3: really the all positions.
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Speaker 4: And I know you're talking about Tyson, but.
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Speaker 3: We really want to do and put the player in
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Speaker 3: the best position for him to have success so we
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Speaker 3: can have success on defense and ultimately as a team.
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Speaker 3: And so we've identified a few of those things in
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Speaker 3: OTAs we're continuing. It's day one, day two today, so
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Speaker 3: we're continuing to fundamentals and technique, but how he's playing
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Speaker 3: and the proximity from the receiver and aggressiveness and things
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Speaker 3: like this. That's what he does well, and so we
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Speaker 3: want him to do the things that he does well,
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Speaker 3: and then we're going to work on, you know, some
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Speaker 3: of his deficiencies and things like that and try to
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Speaker 3: make them continue an all around player.
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Speaker 4: But we always want our.
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Speaker 3: Guys to be in position where they're going to have success.
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Speaker 3: We're gonna put them in the positions that that that
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Speaker 3: they can do well.
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Speaker 4: And so that's that's really what you're seeing on the
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Speaker 4: field with him to do for everybody else, well, I
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Speaker 4: think that's.
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Speaker 3: You know, one of the things as coaches we try
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Speaker 3: to we try to evaluate and that was a big
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Speaker 3: thing in OTAs is what do these guys do well
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Speaker 3: and then put them in that position. And so yeah,
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Speaker 3: you'll see some position changes because we've identified that you know,
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Speaker 3: maybe one guy plays a little bit better outside than inside,
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Speaker 3: or one guy is a little bit better off the
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Speaker 3: ball on the ball, and so things like that, and
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Speaker 3: so we don't want to just be hey, here's exactly
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Speaker 3: what you know, if you don't fit this, you can't
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Speaker 3: play well.
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Speaker 4: That's the game is. So it's changed so much.
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Speaker 3: And spread out and a lot of one on ones
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Speaker 3: and things like that, and so we we're always trying
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Speaker 3: to there's gonna be some things where, you know, that's
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Speaker 3: what we coach fundamentals, technique and get guys better. But
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Speaker 3: that's what we're trying to do and in every position
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Speaker 3: and with every player that we have.
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Speaker 1: Time with Josh hain Dollens, But what have you learned
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Speaker 1: from him in.
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Speaker 5: A limited time, especially about maybe what he wants you
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Speaker 5: to hear him for legacy.
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Speaker 4: Wise, he's a he's a competitor. He really wants it.
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Speaker 4: Putting in the time since he's been here, you.
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Speaker 3: Know, last couple of days, you can really see the
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Speaker 3: intensity the practice yesterday again day one, you know, so
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Speaker 3: the consistency and things like that we're looking for. But
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Speaker 3: he says all the right things. You know, he wants
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Speaker 3: to be a great a great player. He wants to
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Speaker 3: have a great defense and a great team. You know,
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Speaker 3: you feel those things as he talks to the guys,
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Speaker 3: you know, good teammate, things like that.
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Speaker 4: So it really excited about him. I know you got us.
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Speaker 1: Through OTAs, didn't use a depth chart. Is that going
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Speaker 1: to bleed into training camp a little bit?
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Speaker 4: It's gonna start like that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So you'll see a bunch of combinations. Even yesterday,
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Speaker 3: you know, we had you know, guys that you know,
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Speaker 3: maybe we didn't play together in OTAs that we're out
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Speaker 3: there and so we always you know, we're the best
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Speaker 3: combination of players. And here's what we're looking for ultimately
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Speaker 3: is when we evaluate did the player win the rep
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Speaker 3: you know, at at each position. You know, it's it
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Speaker 3: is the scheme and they're out there and they've they're
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Speaker 3: playing corner or nickel or defensive end or de tackle
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Speaker 3: or whatever it is, and to the player, and then
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Speaker 3: how are they playing with the guys around them? You know,
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Speaker 3: it's part of the evaluation process. So that will happen.
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Speaker 3: You know, it's preseason's four, right, you know we're fundamentally
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Speaker 3: what is camp? You know, master the techniques and champion
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Speaker 3: the scheme of what we're doing. And then as it
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Speaker 3: continues to go, then yeah, well it'll start to you'll
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Speaker 3: see things and as cuts are made and guys are
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Speaker 3: making the team and making plays, and you'll see it.
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Speaker 3: It'll get tighter. And then you'll see that these guys
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Speaker 3: are going to get some reps. And then when it
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Speaker 3: gets to the game week, you had depth charts and
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Speaker 3: all that stuff matters. But right now it's fundamentals, technique, scheme,
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Speaker 3: you know, playing hard, being tough, you know those type
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Speaker 3: of things.
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Speaker 4: That's what the camp's about.
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Speaker 6: Looking when you first got here, when you were first
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Speaker 6: approached about this was a player that you identified and said,
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Speaker 6: he fits my system. I want him here for the
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Speaker 6: long term.
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Speaker 4: Yes, it's got a great skill set when you when
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Speaker 4: you evaluate him and what we do.
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Speaker 3: On defense and our dB coaches and and you know,
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Speaker 3: Chris and Corey and and Mic and those guys, and
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Speaker 3: you look at you know, when we talked about, you know,
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Speaker 3: what we're looking for at that position. He possesses a
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Speaker 3: lot of those skill sets and those traits and so
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Speaker 3: it's it's exciting that we're going to have him for
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Speaker 3: a few more years. So uh, but again, he's we
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Speaker 3: can we still think that he can, and we still
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Speaker 3: know he can get better.
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Speaker 4: Like that's the thing we want. All these guys, even Josh,
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Speaker 4: you know, we.
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Speaker 3: Push him to get better like all the and that's
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Speaker 3: that's what we're here to do is and that's what
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Speaker 3: part of camp is is, you know, get just get
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Speaker 3: a little bit better every day. And then the first
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Speaker 3: game of season. Let's go win the first preseason game.
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Speaker 3: You know, let's let's let's take care of that first
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Speaker 3: before we even get into the season.
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Speaker 6: Because the team has played a lot of zone dictated
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Speaker 6: by personnel, dictated by scheme in the past. There's a
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Speaker 6: knock on whether or not he can be a man corner.
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Speaker 6: What do you make of that?
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Speaker 4: We'll see.
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Speaker 1: You go back to like his Georgia tape.
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Speaker 3: Or here here's the thing, Like, so we're evaluating all
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Speaker 3: that right now. You know, we have good players on offense.
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Speaker 3: If he can when he covers those guys and he can,
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Speaker 3: then we feel like he's gonna have real good success,
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Speaker 3: you know, during the season. So it's part of the
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Speaker 3: evaluation process. But look, he's tall, he's long, he can run,
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Speaker 3: you know, he's got he's got all those things. He's
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Speaker 3: smart when you when you really talk to him, he's
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Speaker 3: a he's a really good person, like he really cares.
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Speaker 3: He wants to be really good, but he wants his
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Speaker 3: teammates to be really good. So I think we've got
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Speaker 3: a really good combination of our personnel on defense and
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Speaker 3: those those guys they care about each other, Like we've
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Speaker 3: got good the scouting department and and pro scouts and
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Speaker 3: there they've done a really good job of accumulating these players,
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Speaker 3: not just talent wise, but just as good people. Like
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Speaker 3: they're awesome guys. It's so fun to be around them
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Speaker 3: because they care so much about being good. And he's
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Speaker 3: a big part of that.
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Speaker 2: There seems to be a lot of guys behind Campbell
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Speaker 2: and Darby in that secondary a lot of young guys.
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Speaker 1: How would you assess the depth there and how it's
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Speaker 1: shaving up?
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Speaker 4: It's good depth, you know.
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Speaker 3: And again it's day one and so yep, there's gonna
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Speaker 3: be some position battles, and what we're really focusing on
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Speaker 3: is getting all of those guys reps and they get
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Speaker 3: different players on offense and then truly that's a true evaluation.
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Speaker 3: So here, what that means is if you go out
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Speaker 3: there and you play the two corners and they're playing
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Speaker 3: against the first team offense every single play, then do
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Speaker 3: you are you really evaluating the second, third, and fourth guys?
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Speaker 3: And so what we want to do is, hey, maybe
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Speaker 3: whoever's whoever's up next, Hey, they're going to get some
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Speaker 3: reps against the first and then the next guy is
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Speaker 3: going to get some reps, and then we can get
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Speaker 3: a true evaluation of the depth at that position. And
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Speaker 3: did hey maybe we had this guy third or fourth,
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Speaker 3: he's playing a little bit better. If we wouldn't have
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Speaker 3: put him in there, if those guys wouldn't have had
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Speaker 3: the depth chart, and hey it's stuck and you can't
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Speaker 3: play against those guys, then we would have never seen
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Speaker 3: what they can do against you know, our our first
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Speaker 3: or second second team. And so that's what we're doing
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Speaker 3: right now. As that continues to go, and then you'll
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Speaker 3: start seeing we'll start having a depth chart. But this
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Speaker 3: is three four weeks away now, like we've got some
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Speaker 3: time to evaluate.
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Speaker 4: Ran.
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Speaker 2: Is that a Fellows philosophy change here or in the
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Speaker 2: NFL in general that it used to be, Hey, ones
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Speaker 2: versus ones, twos versus twos, or have they been doing
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Speaker 2: stuff like that for a while.
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Speaker 3: It's probably just an organizational philosophy, you know, talking with
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Speaker 3: coach and Trent about like how we want to evaluate
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Speaker 3: and things like that. I just think it's really important
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Speaker 3: that everybody gets an opportunity. And you guys all know
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Speaker 3: the stories of Hey, this guy's buried in the depth chart,
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Speaker 3: he gets this opportunity and all of a sudden he
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Speaker 3: becomes this great player, right, and so we want to
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Speaker 3: evaluate and give those guys chances that And then here's
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Speaker 3: the other thing too, it's a long season. Injuries happen.
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Speaker 3: It's just part of the game. If if the second
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Speaker 3: or third team guy never gets in, then how do
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Speaker 3: you know how he's going.
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Speaker 4: To perform when he's actually in a game.
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Speaker 3: And so that's where hey, we're continually to rotate and
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Speaker 3: you'll see, you know, you may see Josh out there
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Speaker 3: with a guy he's never played with, you know, whoever
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Speaker 3: that is. And then once we get to the season
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Speaker 3: and we've got you know, the guys going to the game,
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Speaker 3: we should all feel confident that anybody who's dressed is
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Speaker 3: able to go in and perform and help us win
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Speaker 3: that game.
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Speaker 4: And that's the ultimate goal.
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Speaker 6: Trus Gibson, a guy who has been opened that he
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Speaker 6: almost signed here a year ago, ultimately comes here this year.
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Speaker 6: What have you seen from him so far as far
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Speaker 6: as competing for me that third fourth pass rusher position.
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Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, he had a good day yesterday.
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Speaker 3: Uh Tenacity, toughness, he's got a little bit of twitch.
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Speaker 3: It's really good. You know, you have to have it
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Speaker 3: at that position. He's got good length, he's got a
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Speaker 3: good skill set. We've got a little bit you know,
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Speaker 3: bend and hoop. He can do that. He's he can
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Speaker 3: rush with power. And so it's a good competition, you know,
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Speaker 3: after those couple of guys, and you know, I really.
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Speaker 4: Feel good about it.
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Speaker 3: Every position group we've got some competition. And so he's
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Speaker 3: fighting just you know some other guys that are right
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Speaker 3: there battling with them. And so uh, expect the best
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Speaker 3: out of him in in the next few weeks, and
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Speaker 3: we'll really see how.
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Speaker 5: Do you balance teaching and watching versatility as opposed to
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Speaker 5: not letting a guy master The one thing is there
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Speaker 5: is there a little bit of a game, and they're
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Speaker 5: figuring out what he had.
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Speaker 3: When you watch football today, there's so many things that
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Speaker 3: players have to do, right. It's not like it used
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Speaker 3: to be twenty years ago where everybody was in ie
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Speaker 3: formation and running downhill and play action pass right. We're
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Speaker 3: playing spread out game, shift, trades, emotions, and so players
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Speaker 3: today have to do more, and so yes, we want
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Speaker 3: them to.
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Speaker 4: We're gonna we're gonna.
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Speaker 3: Find out what they do well and help them at
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Speaker 3: what they don't and and so that now you're you
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Speaker 3: you hope the player becomes a well rounded player and
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Speaker 3: is able to play so many like you know, the
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Speaker 3: nickel position. You look twenty years ago, the nickel position
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Speaker 3: it and so now that you know, let's talk about
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Speaker 3: the nickel right now. Now he's got to play man,
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Speaker 3: he's got to play zone, he's got to fit in.
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Speaker 4: The box, he's the bubble. He's got to carry deep ball.
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Speaker 3: I mean that guy's skill set, he's got to do
10:32
Speaker 3: so many things, and so uh, you know, that's why
10:35
Speaker 3: you have some dB coaches and and and you're you're evaluating,
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Speaker 3: but you're you're teaching him. He's got to be able
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Speaker 3: to do all those things. He's got to be able
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Speaker 3: to do all those things well.
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Speaker 4: But it's always about, hey, what do they do well?
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Speaker 3: And then what do we have to help the player
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Speaker 3: get better at?
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Speaker 1: What's the challenge I guess with playing different guys, But
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Speaker 1: but then you also want to build industry between one
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Speaker 1: collective unit. How do you sort of balance it where
11:04
Speaker 1: you want to put into third strainers, but you still
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Speaker 1: want to get those starters, you know, some time to
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Speaker 1: play together.
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Speaker 3: Sure, it's a good question. It kind of takes care
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Speaker 3: of itself. Where the camp is so long that those
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Speaker 3: guys get enough the accumulation of reps. I'm going to
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Speaker 3: guess that we had twelve hundred reps over seven weeks
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Speaker 3: of camp. Six weeks of camp, you know, one of
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Speaker 3: the places, and so that's a lot of reps, and
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Speaker 3: so those guys get enough reps together.
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Speaker 4: It's such a you know, the community is such a.
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Speaker 3: Long, long process. You know, like today, yesterday we had
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Speaker 3: thirty thirty eight reps. Today we'll have I think it's
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Speaker 3: fifty four total reps.
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Speaker 4: And it just keeps adding up and adding up and
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Speaker 4: adding up.
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Speaker 3: And there's only so many players you have in so
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Speaker 3: many combinations, and so those guys will be out there
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Speaker 3: together and then by that time we're meeting and you
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Speaker 3: got walkthroughs. I mean, it's such a they're around each
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Speaker 3: other so much. The chemistry is built over time.
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Speaker 2: Ryan, you've been around this thing now for a little bit.
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Speaker 2: Here these guys, how how do you feel like they've
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Speaker 2: received you and what you guys are trying to accomplish as.
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Speaker 4: A staff really good?
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Speaker 3: You know when when you go into the unit meetings
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Speaker 3: and you talk to the players and really what you're
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Speaker 3: emphasizing and they're really you feel like the players have
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Speaker 3: really bought in and listening, and if you ask them
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Speaker 3: for something, hey we've got a better effort in this,
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Speaker 3: or aligning a little bit quicker. You see it, you know,
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Speaker 3: And so that's that's all you can ask for as
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Speaker 3: a coach.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 3: One of the things is players they they don't they
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Speaker 3: don't care what you know until they know how much
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Speaker 3: you care. And our staff spending time with the guys,
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Speaker 3: it's been really important. We have good guys. I love
12:50
Speaker 3: to be around our players. They're they're they're they're really cool.
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Speaker 3: Uh guys, they care so much and you just you
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Speaker 3: hope that that comes across to them, that that you
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Speaker 3: you really care about them on and off the field.
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Speaker 4: You know that that's what it's about.
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Speaker 3: You know, this journey is so you know, it's it's
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Speaker 3: it's a long but we're this team is only together.
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Speaker 3: One of the one of the players, said that this
13:15
Speaker 3: team will only be one year together. You know, some
13:18
Speaker 3: of the staff will leave, some of the and you
13:20
Speaker 3: want it to be so good for these guys this
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Speaker 3: one year, like you know, win play the best that
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Speaker 3: you can and so hopefully that comes across to the guys.
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Speaker 3: You try to get that across to them that man
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Speaker 3: really care about you as a person, as a player,
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Speaker 3: and that's why sometimes we're coaching you hard or you know,
13:41
Speaker 3: we're putting you in averse situations that we want you
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Speaker 3: to be the best. You know, and so when you
13:46
Speaker 3: ask them to, hey let's run to the ball, Hey
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Speaker 3: let's give a little bit better effort that they're and
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Speaker 3: you see in that on tape, you know, And so
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Speaker 3: yesterday was a perfect example. Hey, let's let's align a
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Speaker 3: little quicker, you know. So expect to go out there
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Speaker 3: today and the guys down in their stances and a
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Speaker 3: line a little quicker, and then you know, next day
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Speaker 3: it might be something else. But you know, overall, it's
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Speaker 3: been it's been a blast to be with these guys.
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Speaker 3: It's just day one, you know, I'm fired up. I
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Speaker 3: can't wait to get out there. I mean, it's like
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Speaker 3: it's like, let's get going. But it's been really cool.
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Speaker 3: Love these guys, they're they're awesome, awesome guys, and love
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Speaker 3: spending time with them.
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Speaker 2: Your defense is they've had a lot of success in
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Speaker 2: the red zone. You go out there yesterday three interceptions
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Speaker 2: in red zone work, what do you attribute that to.
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Speaker 3: We've got some really good red zone teachers. Chris ra
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Speaker 3: Shard is phenomenal, learned a lot from him.
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Speaker 4: In the red zone.
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Speaker 3: We've got just some philosophy things that think have success
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Speaker 3: against offenses.
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Speaker 4: And then really our players.
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Speaker 3: Do a really good job understanding situational football in the
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Speaker 3: red zone, meaning what type of plays, we get the
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Speaker 3: offensive playbook t down a little bit. The run game
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Speaker 3: is a little bit more direct, quarterback runs, things like
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Speaker 3: that happen, and our guys really understand, like these are
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Speaker 3: the plays that we have to defend. So just a
15:12
Speaker 3: combination of those things. But you know, it was again
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Speaker 3: day one, you know, and let's go do it again.
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Speaker 3: That was the whole point yesterday is hey, look, takeaways
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Speaker 3: in the red zone like that changes football games, huge place.
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Speaker 3: Let's do it again today.