Latest / For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast / #271 - For Azeroth!: “The War Within Unleashed”
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- 0:00This episode we take an early look at the War Within Alpha,
- 0:03which will be going live later this week.
- 0:07Lex and I will talk all about delves, dungeons, and all the
- 0:12dangers you will be facing on the Isle of Doran.
- 0:15Let's get into it For calendar to the burning region, for
- 0:22Gilnaeus, for the Lich King, for the Cindora, For the Alliance
- 0:34for Azeroth. Hello and welcome to For
- 0:39Azeroth. I for the first time opening the
- 0:43episode. I'm Lex Lex rants who will rant
- 0:47forever, and I am here with my wonderful Co host Manny.
- 0:51Manny, How are you doing? I am doing amazing.
- 0:56We have big things to talk about.
- 0:59Had to record this episode in the dark because we're under
- 1:02embargo. But before we go deep into that,
- 1:06I do want to say that we're doing a bigger things.
- 1:11First major announcement is that FAZ is returning to a weekly
- 1:17show. So you will be getting episodes
- 1:19each and every week. So I'm glad for that because
- 1:23there's so much news coming out. But it's not just that.
- 1:27We are also going to be doing a little thing called a book club.
- 1:33Lex, do you want to talk about that?
- 1:36Oh, you bet I do. So we have been talking for a
- 1:39bit about being very interested in reading a little bit more of
- 1:42the lore. And so we have decided to start
- 1:44reading books, the reading lore novels together and then having
- 1:49an opportunity to kind of chat as a for Azeroth team.
- 1:53And by the for Azeroth team, I mean the, you know, the, the
- 1:56listeners and and everybody all coming together.
- 1:58So we're going to be starting out in May.
- 2:00We don't have an exact date yet. We're going to be starting with
- 2:03the book Arthus Rise of the Lich King by Christy Golden, which I
- 2:07have not read yet but from all accounts is an incredible book
- 2:11and we would love to have you come and hang out, read it to
- 2:14chat about it and get a a bit deeper of a dive into the lore.
- 2:19I've been reading some of the other books and I will say A
- 2:21Golden is an unbelievable writer.
- 2:23She does such a good job. And also it's really an
- 2:27interesting way to really like come to a better understanding
- 2:30what's going on with the characters and bring yourself
- 2:33back to lore that I at least hadn't been thinking about for a
- 2:35while. So we would love to have you pop
- 2:38in, come say hi, we'll give you an actual date in the future,
- 2:41but we wanted people to know that we will be reading the
- 2:43Artist novel by Christy Golden. Yeah, yeah.
- 2:46And everybody who wants to participate that with that,
- 2:49that's going to be in the fast discord.
- 2:51So make sure you join in. Bit dot LY slash fast discord
- 2:55and we're going to dive deep into the lore every month with a
- 2:58book one chapter at a time. Now with that said, oh man,
- 3:04guys, maybe I buried the lead here because over the last few
- 3:10days we've been seeing a lot of memes on the Internet.
- 3:13A lot of, oh, we'll be back on Wednesday.
- 3:17And we all knew what that was. People kid not, cannot just keep
- 3:22it down low, but the embargo was lifted By the time you're
- 3:25hearing this. We get to talk all about the war
- 3:28within. And so I was one of the lucky
- 3:31people who got to play a early press release and got to sit
- 3:36down with the developers and have some of our questions
- 3:39answered. And so we're going to be sharing
- 3:41all of that with you today. And Lex is going to be grilling
- 3:44me to get that information out as much as I can remember
- 3:46because it was a lot. There is a lot coming out, guys,
- 3:49and that's why we've got to start getting this out to you.
- 3:52So, Lex, where do you want to begin?
- 3:54Where do I want to begin? So I suppose I will begin,
- 3:58Manny, with what would you say? For you stood out the most with
- 4:02just all of the the slew of information that you've gotten
- 4:05in the last however long. Oh man.
- 4:09Like the thing that's standing out for me is 1.
- 4:15How much the team two is just cooking, absolutely bringing so
- 4:21much to us. Like the weekend just before
- 4:24this, knowing that I was going to be diving into the alpha, I
- 4:27also wanted to play the Mr. Pandaria remix and give that a a
- 4:32test, right? And my goodness, there's so
- 4:35much. And I wish we could talk about
- 4:36that. But like, this is just the
- 4:37bigger thing to talk about. But like getting into the alpha
- 4:43properly, what the first thing that I needed to dive into was
- 4:47like actually get my hands on hero talent.
- 4:50Does does the classes that I wanted to play, do the classes
- 4:54that I wanted to play actually feel like, you know, a shaman, A
- 5:00warlock, a a warrior, right? Those are three that I like
- 5:05immediately dived into you and I got to to like take a little
- 5:09gander quickly at the at a holy priest and go through that.
- 5:17But like dude, does it still feel like your your character?
- 5:19Is it overwhelming sort of thing.
- 5:21And for the for the three characters that I like know
- 5:26relatively it didn't feel like it derailed what the class was
- 5:31about. When I was playing Demonology I
- 5:35tried the Diabolis and that is the like big summoning ones
- 5:39where you're summoning these greater demons.
- 5:42And I was basically able to do roughly 'cause I don't have any
- 5:46tear tear on the alpha, it's all these pre made slubs of newly
- 5:54made characters. But roughly, I was able to play
- 5:57like I would on live get, feel like I was doing my rotation,
- 6:02but also getting this extra really cool little thing that
- 6:06like, it's like when you're first playing with a new tier
- 6:10set and you're not quite sure how to maximize it.
- 6:12Like there's a little bit of like of like, oh this is new,
- 6:17but like I don't know how to like really bring in the the
- 6:20hits, except this felt so cool and I think the team has been
- 6:28doing them a disservice. Doing themselves a disservice.
- 6:32Because it is one thing to sort of like read up about like how
- 6:36how this is supposed to work and have your questions about it,
- 6:41but it is a different thing to actually like feel it in action
- 6:46and how it plays. I haven't been really a big fan
- 6:56of the far seer hero talents for shamans because I was you know
- 7:03like all the questions. It seems like it favors 1 build
- 7:06over another. It feels like I'm being forced
- 7:09to use certain abilities that like I might not have picked
- 7:14otherwise and when I played it those abilities just felt good.
- 7:21It just it it like it worked. And it also when I looked at
- 7:26like a little bit deeper into it, I was like OK, I can see
- 7:30actually how this is balanced so that it works for both.
- 7:33Like because Elemental Shaman is one of those lucky specs that
- 7:38has multiple ways to play it. So you can do the lightning
- 7:44build or you can do the fire build and apparently neither
- 7:48never will. The two meet and hearts here
- 7:52initially felt like it was going to favour the fire build over
- 7:55the lightning bolt but upon testing it out and like I mean I
- 8:04was pulling out the combat log, I was diving deep into like oh
- 8:09what spell triggers what ability, what are those
- 8:13abilities to contingent on this? Does this thing scale with me?
- 8:17I'm not a theory crafter like I I can't say that like I'm
- 8:22somebody who can do theory crafting like the best of them.
- 8:25But I do know my way enough around a class to be able to see
- 8:29where scaling comes into play, where the hooks and the triggers
- 8:35are. And so I think they've done a
- 8:39really good job with that one, with things that I don't know as
- 8:44well. It's it was more just like, does
- 8:49this feel fun? And in in both occasions, yeah,
- 8:55it felt fun. It felt like they were bringing
- 8:58something that I could really love.
- 9:01And so like the questions I have about it have completely
- 9:04changed. So that's that's unfortunately
- 9:06the an answer to only one of your questions and I'm sure you
- 9:12have a lot more. But like is there anything else
- 9:14you kind of really wanted to know about like just like first
- 9:17things or is there like do those spark any other questions for
- 9:20you? Oh man, Was there anything while
- 9:23you were testing out the classes in particular?
- 9:26Like, do you think that you have a direction you want to go for a
- 9:28new Maine? Like, has this changed the way
- 9:31that you're planning your future?
- 9:32Or does it feel like it was similar enough that it didn't,
- 9:34like, fundamentally shake up the way that you're going to be
- 9:37playing World of Warcraft in War Within?
- 9:40Oh, OK. So like, I have been fairly
- 9:43stubbornly A shaman Maine for umpteen years.
- 9:50Like back when you were playing with your family Lex and you're
- 9:54just like join the RPI was still stubbornly Shaman.
- 10:01I've been looking at Warlock a lot and this hasn't helped nor
- 10:07has it hindered like the Warlock has always been something where
- 10:13when I play Demonology I just love how it feels and the
- 10:17additional flavour of the Diablis and being able to like I
- 10:26I don't want to use the word occasionally because it's more
- 10:29frequent than that, but it's not happening every five seconds.
- 10:32It's just like there are this every so often pop big demon,
- 10:38little override on your ability and be like oh I want to press
- 10:41that while it's it's going. And that is a little bit of a
- 10:45change from from Demonology, but not really like demonology was
- 10:51sort of like a do your rotation but respond to procs sort of
- 10:56thing. Anyways and this is just new
- 10:59procs. So it's an so it's like doubling
- 11:02down on demonology but giving it more of what it what it already
- 11:06had both thematically and in terms of like mechanics.
- 11:12So I'm just getting more more warlock for my warlock and with
- 11:20and with Shaman. I'm getting more shaman for my
- 11:23shaman. So I just I feel like did I like
- 11:26it before and did they pick the right thing to to double down on
- 11:32is the question And so I like it for elemental.
- 11:37I like it for demonology. I definitely love it for
- 11:42protection warrior like oh man, like I'm I'm I'm loving it.
- 11:47I had to run on a because like sometimes it was just like can
- 11:53we get the right people? And I ended up running a dungeon
- 11:57with with a couple of people and deciding, OK, I'm going to heal
- 12:03this because we need a healer. And for Resto Shaman, I am like
- 12:10I was able to change the talents so that there wasn't as much of
- 12:15the RNG and it was very much controlled and the fact that
- 12:19they could do that was very was very helpful.
- 12:24I think that like I was, I was worried a lot about like
- 12:28particular talents while not taking the context of them And
- 12:32once it felt felt more in context.
- 12:34I, like a lot of my fears, have been assuaged, I guess.
- 12:39That is something that I I think a lot when I hear the the
- 12:43responses that come when anything's announced for World
- 12:46Warcraft is that like the the player base has been playing
- 12:49this game for a really long time and so they do really know what
- 12:52they're talking about in in a lot of ways.
- 12:54But at the end on the other hand, this is a game and often I
- 12:57think you do kind of need to get your hands in it to understand
- 12:59what's actually going on, what people are actually feeling.
- 13:02So it's good to know that they the when you get your hands in
- 13:05it, it's very exciting and it's it's feeling the way that it
- 13:07want you want it to feel and it's feeling like it's giving
- 13:10something to the game. Yeah.
- 13:14So I am going to immediately pivot and talk about what I want
- 13:17to talk about, which is delves you.
- 13:19Have you been able to play any of the delves or get your hands
- 13:22in that world? I went to every single delve
- 13:26that that was available for testing and I guess this is a
- 13:29good point to talk about. Like what was open to us for
- 13:32testing. So all of the classes were open
- 13:35for testing. All of the all of the previously
- 13:42announced hero talents were open for testing, as well as four
- 13:47hero talents that weren't previously announced were
- 13:50available, including Void Weaver.
- 13:54Oh, sorry, Void Weaver for Shadow Priests, which was cool,
- 13:58and everybody is going to get their hands on this because the
- 14:02public alpha is going live this week.
- 14:08So that's a big the bill that we had allowed us to play the first
- 14:14zone and it had three delves available to it and two
- 14:19dungeons. So I tested all of those
- 14:22multiple times and I am liking my initial impression of delves
- 14:30for for a give me variety and something to do from like
- 14:39day-to-day. But delves are also very early
- 14:44and there's some things that I'm worried about.
- 14:46One of the things that I'm worried about is of course
- 14:49difficulty. The initial, the initial run
- 14:55through. You're on difficulty one, and
- 14:57there's multiple difficulties. Apparently you can turn this
- 14:59thing all the way up to 11. Pardon the pun, but on for your
- 15:05levelling and for the the purpose of testing, we're only
- 15:11allowed to test difficulty one and difficulty 2.
- 15:14Difficulty one is pure accessibility.
- 15:19Nothing in there is really going to threaten you if you have like
- 15:23a like even the most rough idea of testing.
- 15:26Now I hate when I give these impressions because what I feel
- 15:32is incredibly accessible and and relatively harmless may actually
- 15:38be challenging for some people. So I do want to say that it is
- 15:41the accessible stuff. If you find that level 1
- 15:47challenging or level 2 challenging, I don't want to
- 15:51dismiss somebody else's, like where somebody else is coming
- 15:54from, just like because I don't have that point of view.
- 15:58But like level one and level 2 feel about accessibility, I
- 16:02could see the jump in difficulty from level 1 to level 2.
- 16:05My health bar actually started moving things.
- 16:10Things didn't die before they could even reach me.
- 16:13So I was happier about that. And with nine more difficulty
- 16:20levels there, sure. But there's also a question
- 16:24about scaling. And like I am really worried
- 16:30that by the time we are, you know, raiding, do our doing our
- 16:35keystone dungeons and all of that with like you know, Heroic
- 16:40and Mythic 0 now being shifted into to higher gears, I I'm
- 16:46worried how much delves will be left, left, left in the dust.
- 16:52And part of that is in the way that they are set up to reward
- 16:58gear at the highest difficulty, which sorry, the highest
- 17:02rewards, right. Those rewards cap out around
- 17:06difficulty 8, with your difficulties of 9/10/11 being
- 17:12purely about bragging rights. Really.
- 17:15Just like hey, I was able to push this all the way up to the
- 17:19highest difficulty. Oh, fascinating.
- 17:22Right. A Delve 8 rewards about the same
- 17:27as a Mythic 5, which is halfway through the Mythic track, right?
- 17:34It goes all the way up to Mythic 10, So there's that to be
- 17:37involved, that to be like considered.
- 17:41The other thing is that raids obviously scale up as well but
- 17:48if you're I don't think every single thing in the game needs
- 17:53to immediately ratchet up to the.
- 17:56I'm going to break myself like everything's going to one shot
- 17:59me difficulty and so I I think that should be OK in my opinion.
- 18:05It's just I put this idea and like this if this comes comes
- 18:11out and like this is something they do 100%.
- 18:15I'm taking credit for it because, oh, as you.
- 18:17Deserve. Yeah, I mean like they they were
- 18:20having AQ and A and I was like, hey, rather than infinitely
- 18:23scaling it, what if there was a difficulty like and had you had
- 18:27they considered a difficulty that was closer to challenge
- 18:30modes? Because like you know, we had
- 18:31just been back in Mr. Pandaria for the Mr. Pandaria remix and
- 18:35challenge modes debuted in in Mr. Pandaria.
- 18:38So for Lex, who probably didn't play during Mr. Pandaria, and
- 18:42for those of you who need the refresher, challenge modes are
- 18:45the precursor to Mythic Plus. They didn't.
- 18:49They didn't go up in difficulty infinitely, but what they did
- 18:53was they scaled you down so that your gear level was always at a
- 19:01certain point and no higher. You could be under geared and
- 19:04therefore punish yourself, but even if you went back at the end
- 19:08of the expansion you would get scaled down to the appropriate
- 19:12gear level to make it a challenge and then they would
- 19:15have can you beat it in this time for gold, silver, Bronze.
- 19:20Now I'm not suggesting timers here guys.
- 19:22I think that delves should abstain from timers unless that
- 19:27is some house rule that people want to put in for their own
- 19:30little tournament. I think elves should be
- 19:33something that you progress through at your own rate.
- 19:36And like K is this mob pack something that I can handle?
- 19:41Is this particular encounter or puzzle something that I can
- 19:46handle? And that to me should be the
- 19:48challenge of it. Not a race against the clock,
- 19:51but scaling that down or scaling you down so that it is always an
- 19:56appropriate challenge I think would be a great mode.
- 19:58So challenge delves. I I want it.
- 20:01And you heard it here first. That would be very cool.
- 20:06Do you think that that will having played delves a little
- 20:10bit and and with the awareness that it's in very early testing,
- 20:14Can you imagine yourself enjoying Delves long term like
- 20:19when you've played these quite a few times or did it feel like
- 20:21something that maybe would get a little bit stale?
- 20:24I think that if they time it right, Delves will have a longer
- 20:29shelf life than Mythic Plus and that is high praise.
- 20:35Like we have a rotation of Mythic Plus where weekly the
- 20:39affixes change which gives it a little bit of flavour.
- 20:42Sometimes people are feel that the flavour of affixes kind of
- 20:45overwhelm the dungeon and that's a conversation for a different
- 20:49day. But the dungeons themselves stay
- 20:50relatively static. You can only go back so many
- 20:54times to like Dawn of the Infinite Higher Rise or Fall,
- 20:58right so many times. This is the 12 different delves
- 21:09that are three per zone. But then on top of that, there's
- 21:13a 13th delve. So we're getting more of them.
- 21:18And each delve has different scenarios in it.
- 21:22So when you do a delve, one day you might be doing the like, oh,
- 21:27we've got to like, rescue all these miners 'cause they're
- 21:30trapped down there. And the Nubians, the Nubians are
- 21:33closing in, and that's the scenario you're doing.
- 21:36But then you might go back another time, and there's no
- 21:40miners. It's instead the Arafi and
- 21:43they've come to purge the place with Holy Fire and get rid of
- 21:46these nerubians. So now you're doing, you're
- 21:49going through the same place, but the content, the scenarios,
- 21:53the way that you approach it is completely different.
- 21:57And so I think that that's going to give these things a lot more
- 22:02of a different shelf life. It's like when you play one of
- 22:07the dungeons that came back from previous, but they've completely
- 22:12rearranged all the bosses and you have to learn the bosses
- 22:15again. I had run Throne of Tides many,
- 22:18many times back in Cataclysm, but I had to relearn it.
- 22:23And though there was like a little bit of familiarity
- 22:26because like you know, you can't change the way that the layout
- 22:29is, the fact that like the trash and the bosses acted completely
- 22:34different, completely reinvigorated That and I think
- 22:37because of that Delves could be the like a new pillar for end
- 22:46game content that will be fresh long after you're tired of
- 22:51killing the same old raid boss. Yeah, yeah that's I think that's
- 22:56very exciting and I'm, I think they're also, I'm guessing will
- 23:00be a little bit less of like a meta drive because it's not
- 23:03necessarily group content, right.
- 23:06Like part of the point of delve that you can play on your own,
- 23:10which I think will allow them to kind of like shake things up a
- 23:13little bit more and make it very exciting for people to play
- 23:17solo, which is something that I feel like we're seeing more and
- 23:21more them making possible. Is that solo play and is that
- 23:25ability to make to to to go through content at your pace and
- 23:30and with your your people or on your own, which is very exciting
- 23:36to me as a as a primary or as very much other than rating a
- 23:40solo player to see them kind of give the focus of spaces that.
- 23:46Well, Lex, I gotta, I gotta tell you, maybe maybe now is the time
- 23:50for your solo play to end 'cause like I I understand you, you you
- 23:55have your your limited time, but they are making Dells more open
- 24:00for people than ever. One is that of course, it's
- 24:05scale. So you can go by yourself, you
- 24:07can go with your friends, you can do group Finder and find
- 24:12people for delves, but you can also do delves cross faction
- 24:17from day one. So your friends who are on the
- 24:20opposite side of that faction divide can totally jump in with
- 24:24you. That is not an issue.
- 24:27But maybe. Then I'd have to play with you
- 24:29instead of Bran bronze beard, who, like you, really think that
- 24:33I'd rather spend time with my friends instead of some like
- 24:37funny pixels. I mean, that's the beauty.
- 24:40Of delves. That's the beauty of delves,
- 24:42Lex. You can set up so that even if
- 24:46you're running with your friends, you don't have to miss
- 24:47out on Bran. Bran will be there, at least for
- 24:50season one. There is going to be a different
- 24:52companion each each season, right?
- 24:55So that season one you have Bran and you level up your brand and
- 24:59that levelling up of your brand so that he gets new abilities
- 25:02and and become stronger. That is account wide, which the
- 25:07developers actually laughed at 'cause they're like, yeah, you
- 25:09could have like your maxed out brand and you're bringing in
- 25:12your like day one fresh alt and you're just like sit back and
- 25:16watch Bran just demolish the dungeon for you or the delve for
- 25:19you. You're saying that is something
- 25:21that could happen and that that that actually made me laugh.
- 25:25We Bran is going to be truly the MVP of at least the first
- 25:28season, and then it'll be somebody else who we don't know
- 25:31yet. They they very much did not want
- 25:33to tell us who who was for season 2.
- 25:36That'll be a secret for later, but that is getting ahead of
- 25:39ourselves. Bran is really good because you
- 25:43can change his layout. You can choose between him being
- 25:48Adps and helping you do damage or a healer and keeping you
- 25:51healed. His healing I I I felt was
- 25:56unnecessary so I'm like just had in some damage and it's fine,
- 26:01but like it depended on your strengths and weaknesses.
- 26:03If you are somebody who's who's able to kite correctly or just
- 26:08be a tank and take that damage, you maybe want him to like do a
- 26:12lot of damage. But if you are somebody who like
- 26:15you just want to like, tear through and not worry about your
- 26:18survival, you can have him just set up that campfire and heal
- 26:22you, put up the put on those bandages, throw you some health
- 26:25potions that you run over to keep your health going so you
- 26:28can just focus on bringing the heat.
- 26:31And so, like, I love that that is something that you can
- 26:35customize and set up for, for your play, how you like it.
- 26:41Yeah, and I'm sure would also be very helpful.
- 26:43If you have a group like you know.
- 26:44If you do have like one or two friends, you're not able to fill
- 26:47all of the ideal rules. You can adjust your brand since
- 26:51apparently I still get to keep them right Manny.
- 26:53Yes, you still get to keep them. Still get to keep brand.
- 26:56But it is only one brand that I was able to see.
- 27:00I will have to check over the footage from my playthrough with
- 27:05a friend. Shout out to Woji at woji.tv Hey
- 27:09editing Manny here. Checking back at the footage it
- 27:12is only one brand and it seems to be following me around as the
- 27:16party leader. So it may be that you need to be
- 27:19the party leader to have your version of Bran active.
- 27:23But like I had my brand and I had him set up one way, Wochi
- 27:27probably had his brand set up another way and diving, diving
- 27:32into it, I know my brand was around, but I'm I'm wondering,
- 27:35and it might it's just skipping my memory right now.
- 27:37If following Woji was like random dwarven explorer 'cause,
- 27:42you know every time you have a named character and somebody
- 27:44else has it, they get the random one and yours is the real brand.
- 27:47So I had the real brand and I have no idea what Woji had, but
- 27:50I will check that out. And actually I do want to put
- 27:53out that footage and stuff for our listeners and for our
- 27:57viewers so they can see all this stuff that we're talking about
- 28:00for themselves as well. So we'll put that up, check out
- 28:04the discord and I will make sure that I that I get a link for
- 28:07that there as well. Yeah.
- 28:10So Speaking of fun, exciting content, one thing that I caught
- 28:14when they were going through everything that they're adding
- 28:17is that they're going to make it so that the dungeons, now that
- 28:19we have things like follower dungeons, the dungeons are more
- 28:23in the storyline. So I'm super excited as well to
- 28:27see what's gonna be happening with the dungeons.
- 28:29Was that something you were able to test, Manny?
- 28:31Oh yeah, Like I said, Oh yeah. There were two dungeons out
- 28:33there and I tested them like crazy.
- 28:37Now, I didn't test it on follower dungeons.
- 28:40I gotta say that I was always with people.
- 28:43No. I mean, you have friends.
- 28:46Sorry. Kidding.
- 28:47It was. It was easy enough because like,
- 28:49I I wanted to go through it. I wanted to be like, oh, this
- 28:53boss looks cool and let me take a picture.
- 28:55And you know all the slow, slow stuff that I subjected my quote
- 28:59UN quote friends to Lex. They may not be friends to meet
- 29:02with me after this, but it was really fun to explore the
- 29:08dungeon and learn together more so than week one of a release.
- 29:13Going on these testings when nobody knows what the hell is
- 29:17going on and we all have to figure it out, is the best time
- 29:21to play with people 'cause nobody can be a jerk, Lex.
- 29:25Everybody's learning. Nobody can be like you don't
- 29:27know that yet and plus like none of the add-ons are working.
- 29:30So if my DPS sucks, nobody knows.
- 29:33I love that. I think this is how we should do
- 29:35it forever, Manny. I think that we should just
- 29:37never. Nobody's ever allowed to learn.
- 29:39Every time you leave a dungeon you like get mentally.
- 29:41Wiped. Brain wiped.
- 29:43Yeah, that's how you enjoy an experience.
- 29:47Just have it wiped from your memory.
- 29:49Yeah, well, everyone else gets it wiped.
- 29:52I. Remember.
- 29:53OK, OK. But yeah, I I went through these
- 29:58dungeons and they they're two dungeons that are available on
- 30:03the initial build of the PTR is the Rookery, which is a four bus
- 30:08dungeon where you are trying to take back this tower from these
- 30:15corrupted earthen, which I believe were called the
- 30:18Shattered. But these earthen have been
- 30:20corrupted by the void and they are up to no good.
- 30:26So you they're attacking the city, you fight them back, you
- 30:31grab some of the the Griffins, the storm, the storm Griffins,
- 30:36you fly over to their citadel to take the fight to them, and then
- 30:41you are fighting, descending into the bowels of this tower.
- 30:46Oh, wow. It is fun.
- 30:49That is actually a fairly short dungeon, being 3 bosses long
- 30:58that you pretty much tear through quickly.
- 31:02But the the but like it's it is one of the dungeons that is
- 31:09integral to the story. So like you do the dungeon as
- 31:13part of the the levelling quest, which is why it's great that
- 31:17they have stuff set up so that you could do a follow dungeon if
- 31:21you don't want to deal with people or if you want to enjoy
- 31:24it at your own pace. Even if you enjoy sometimes
- 31:27running with with people, maybe you just want to take it, take
- 31:30it slow, so it's there and it's available.
- 31:33That is a fun, fun dungeon. The other dungeon is completely
- 31:41abstract from the story. It is the Cinder Brew Meterie
- 31:48and this is kind of like the Storm Stout brewery from Mr.
- 31:55Pandaria. I keep going back to Mr.
- 31:56Pandaria, maybe there's something there.
- 32:00But anyways it is you're going through and there are Venture Co
- 32:06guys off the clock just having some brew and you come in and
- 32:11they don't want you there so they are going to fight you.
- 32:14The first fight is against the barkeep and he has a ability
- 32:22called happy hour and he puts out the bears.
- 32:27He gets a big shield and if you do not deliver these these
- 32:31drinks to the patrons that are getting a little rowdy, they
- 32:35will just keep throwing their empty glasses, forks, everything
- 32:38at you until you satisfy them. And the entire dungeon is just
- 32:43laughs like that. There are brand consultants
- 32:46running around the dungeon Lex, and they will wail you with free
- 32:53samples. They will do a terrifying move
- 32:58called Brand Destruction, and I just got to protect my brand.
- 33:02Lex, you go deeper into the dungeon and they have the bees
- 33:10work working on making the Mead. And so you have like some of
- 33:14those guys with their Bee Zuka, you have a couple of the bees
- 33:22that get angry and they will hit you with the final sting when
- 33:25they're about to die. It's just pun after pun after
- 33:29pun. In order to get to the final
- 33:31boss, you have to like actually release these bees.
- 33:35They all they all set up at the beginning of the dungeon once
- 33:40you've cleared all the rest of the bosses, and then you take
- 33:44this this little flight route which is set up as a beeline
- 33:49directly to the boss. I'm just glad the the World of
- 33:54Warcraft is really giving jobs to the dads because like you
- 33:59know where these puns came from and I'm I'm just so happy for
- 34:04for everyone, but especially that we're really focusing on
- 34:07making sure that we're we're we're employing the punters,
- 34:10Manny and I think that's good. I think that's beautiful.
- 34:14Yeah, yeah, I I they definitely took a lighter touch with this
- 34:18dungeon. But also, well, this is one of
- 34:21the longer dungeons. I looked through the Dungeon
- 34:25Journal and there are no dungeons in here with like 5
- 34:29bosses. The most you'll ever see is 4
- 34:31bosses in a in a dungeon, basically.
- 34:38That's that'll be really kind of a game changer for Mythic Plus,
- 34:41to only have those, like super fast pushes.
- 34:45Yeah, I. I assume.
- 34:47Oh, like, I think these timers are gonna be short.
- 34:49It's gonna be the dungeons aren't gonna be the Super long
- 34:53slogs that that they sometimes can be.
- 34:58And a lot of the dungeons in in the alpha from what I see, have
- 35:06three bosses, so they're going to be short romps for sure.
- 35:11Meteori however, yeah. Meteori however has a lot of
- 35:16trash and man like I wish it wasn't so popular because it
- 35:24feels like it's going to be a bit to push through and some of
- 35:28these rooms really feel like you have to full clear the rooms in
- 35:33order to do the boss mechanics. They are not set up in a way
- 35:38that'll allow you to skip a lot of trash.
- 35:41And if they put if I'm hoping that's not a continuing trend, I
- 35:46do not need like I'm OK with a good amount of trash.
- 35:51I'm OK with A5 boss dungeon. I am not OK with a four boss
- 35:57dungeon that requires me to clear everything in that
- 35:59dungeon. So I'm I'm hoping that they they
- 36:02maybe address that that thing was trash heavy.
- 36:05It it, but it's another throwback to Mr. Pandaria from
- 36:08what I've seen of Mr. Pandaria. It's some dungeons.
- 36:13Yeah, I can understand that. I you know what?
- 36:15Yeah, I'll. I'll give you that one.
- 36:16Some dungeons really did push on the trash.
- 36:20We're we're just going. We're we're returning to our
- 36:23roots, Moonie. We're doing what we're we're
- 36:25playing the game the way it used to be played.
- 36:28Yeah, and that actually I'm going to segue a little bit here
- 36:32because the other thing that like fit really well, like
- 36:35bringing back to Mr. Pandaria is how much it is about the world.
- 36:42Like the Dragon Isles were fantastic to 1st explore the
- 36:50like between the dragon riding, between just how open it was.
- 36:57Like for so many expansions. It really felt like it was a
- 37:01theme park where it's like this attraction and then jam packed
- 37:05right next to it. It's this attraction, it's like
- 37:08hero, you're going to have to storm the enemy base and it's
- 37:10like, where's the enemy base? Oh next door.
- 37:12Just not not going to let you in right?
- 37:16There's spaces in between locales there.
- 37:20It feels like an expansive like this is the Isle of Dorne and it
- 37:26feels bigger than like half the zones or like most of the zones
- 37:34in BFA if not half the zones in Shadow Lands.
- 37:43Like these are like the the zone itself was massive and when they
- 37:49talk about the the other zones I can only imagine that they're
- 37:55just as big if not bigger. It is amazing to fly around with
- 38:00your Griffin or whatever your dragon riding on and you get to
- 38:06dragon ride day one. It is not like oh go do this
- 38:10quest and unlock dragon riding. It's like no, no, no.
- 38:13You've already got dragon riding.
- 38:14You know how this works. Get to it.
- 38:17So you are flying at like top speed day one?
- 38:23That's going to be amazing. I'm so happy that we're able to
- 38:26just explore these zones instead of having all of these gates of
- 38:29like, oh, you have to do this, this and this, and then you can
- 38:31fly. Like you can just immediately go
- 38:33and zoom and mew and and live your absolute dreams.
- 38:38Oh yeah, I'm super happy for that.
- 38:41So, Lex, what do you want to talk about next?
- 38:43We've talked about the delves. We've talked about the dungeons.
- 38:47Do do you want to talk a little bit about the story?
- 38:49I was going to ask if you wanted to talk about the story or if we
- 38:53were going to keep that one under wraps.
- 38:56Oh, you got a you got a point there.
- 38:58Is this is this something where we should avoid spoilers?
- 39:02You know what, Lex? Why don't we do a separate talk
- 39:08about the story to voice spoils because there are without going
- 39:12to spoilers there are big things like let's I you know little run
- 39:16through and it was just like they did that this is happening.
- 39:21Why? When did that oh like?
- 39:24Yeah, it was like we we played for what, like 15 minutes and
- 39:28every single second was like, wait, no, hold up.
- 39:31Yeah. There there's big things
- 39:33happening. Just the early parts, including
- 39:36a part that they are 100% keeping off.
- 39:40The alpha might not even tested in the beta, might be just
- 39:44something that people experience live when it goes live.
- 39:49The opening scenario and just the aftermath of that is huge
- 39:56for a lot of reasons. But yeah, we'll keep that.
- 40:00We'll keep that as a separate thing.
- 40:02Maybe we'll do a little spoiler talk and we'll keep it off the
- 40:04feed and we'll just direct people to that.
- 40:06So if you do want to get spoiled, you can get our
- 40:08impressions of that. But if we're not going to talk
- 40:11about Story, what else do you want to talk about?
- 40:15Everything. Is this, is this the time that
- 40:19we talk about war bands and some of these like, yeah, running?
- 40:24'Cause you're much more of an alt man than I am.
- 40:26What? What was your vibe as you were
- 40:28going? It's true.
- 40:31I mean it is true, but it's so sad that it's true.
- 40:34I used to not be an alt guy, and now I've got the only class I
- 40:38don't have at at least level 60, if not level 70, of which I have
- 40:42like 7 level 70s. The only class I don't have at
- 40:47like at least 60 is the Mage, and I'm sure I'm probably
- 40:51causing some people to get all fiery under the collars or
- 40:56suddenly look at me with a little bit of frosty side to
- 41:00them, but the arcane arts just didn't go for me.
- 41:04But yeah, I guess I am more into alts than I've ever been.
- 41:07We'll see if that lasts, but War bands definitely helps that.
- 41:13Lex War bands are looking to be a feature that is going to make
- 41:20things super easy for the people who want to keep their army of
- 41:24alts running. And it's so inlaid into it that
- 41:32when I was playing I didn't even notice it at 1st.
- 41:36And then as I was talking with different creators, they were
- 41:39pointing out things. And it's like, Oh yeah, so Lex,
- 41:43I did a couple of requests because of course I wanted to
- 41:46see what these quests were about.
- 41:47I did a couple of these quests and of course you get your gear
- 41:54rewards, you get a bit of gold, you get, you get like maybe a
- 41:59toy or some sort of cool cosmetic or something, right?
- 42:03And you also get reputation. But no longer did say, oh, your
- 42:06reputation is increased by blah blah blah blah blah.
- 42:10Now it says your War Band's reputation has increased.
- 42:14So I went back on that alt Right and I was playing through
- 42:20playing through it, and immediately it's saying, hey,
- 42:23you've already done this quest on your your your War band has
- 42:26already completed this quest. Do you want to skip it?
- 42:32Hey, the icon itself doesn't light up in Sprite because it's
- 42:36like hey listen, you don't need to do this.
- 42:39You've already got the rewards for this for part of it.
- 42:42So this is not as dire for you as other as other quests that
- 42:48maybe you haven't done with your war band and the and the items.
- 42:55Like I unlocked some gear on on like 1 character and the trans
- 43:05mog's immediately available for everybody, right?
- 43:09I the one thing that is still an issue is that you will play like
- 43:16let's say I was playing on my shaman because that's the first
- 43:17one I played. I'll play on my shaman.
- 43:19I'll unlock the gear and all the cosmetics.
- 43:21It's like, you know, when you get a question, it's like you
- 43:22can pick between all this gear, you get the cosmetics for all of
- 43:25them, right? But if you're playing that on
- 43:30your priest, the gear that you you get for that reward is going
- 43:34to be cloth versus male and the cloth isn't unlocked for you
- 43:37doing that. So you still right now on the
- 43:39alpha need to play with at least four different characters.
- 43:44They unlock four different gear types.
- 43:48But during the Q&A they said hey that is something that we didn't
- 43:51think about and we are going to look at.
- 43:53So it might be that they do actually adjust that.
- 43:56So if you have a character that like you skip to cap and you're
- 43:59like screw it, I just want to do whatever the lace latest part of
- 44:04the expansion is, you may not need to go back to do any of
- 44:08those earlier quests in order to catch catch up in even trans mod
- 44:14cosmetic stuff. And all of those quests are
- 44:18going to be a grayed out to say, hey, you've already done this on
- 44:22your main, you don't need to do this.
- 44:24So they are being incredibly alt friendly with this, with this
- 44:30set up, and Ian had said it himself in a presentation that
- 44:36came out, we got an early sneak peek at the Wowcast.
- 44:39And so like Lex, you and I both got to see that.
- 44:42And Ian himself said that, yeah, they acknowledged that like at a
- 44:47certain point in the expansion you would start up a character,
- 44:50you would get to the to the cap, open up your map and it was just
- 44:56what was the words to use this soup of icons.
- 45:00And that is some bad soup, friends.
- 45:03Yeah, well, and that was an interesting little quality of
- 45:06life thing that they were talking about, that they're
- 45:07changing the quest notifications even beyond just like graying
- 45:12things out, like they're making it easier to tell what quest is
- 45:15what, right. Yes, you will never mistake a
- 45:20daily quest for a campaign quest or a quest that is not campaign
- 45:27but is important to your character.
- 45:29They've completely separated those out to be completely
- 45:33different things. Side quests, daily quests, the
- 45:39the mainline story quest, the like.
- 45:42All of them have different icons, are vastly different, but
- 45:47still show you what they what they mean.
- 45:49And you can also tell at a glance if you've completed what
- 45:54you need for the turn in. Like you'll be looking at a
- 45:57question mark for like, oh, do I have everything ready?
- 46:00And it won't just be like that. It's like, oh Gray, I don't have
- 46:03that to turn in. It will have little dots on it
- 46:06to be like how close you are to completion.
- 46:08So it's like, oh, I've done three of the things needed and
- 46:11there's still a fourth, well, there'll be 3 dots that are
- 46:13filled in and a fourth one that's not filled in.
- 46:14You're like, shoot, I got to do one more thing before I turn in
- 46:17without having to talk to the NPC.
- 46:19That's very speaking. That's super cool.
- 46:23Would I? Would I be ruining your flow if
- 46:24I ask a a side question to this or do you want to talk about
- 46:28Corbin? This is your your shows you
- 46:31lead. Go ahead, Lex.
- 46:32So I was really excited when I was seeing everything they're
- 46:36doing. There's so many little quality
- 46:38of life things like we could fill up three shows just going
- 46:41over all of their little quality of life bits that they're adding
- 46:45in. I'm curious what, Manny, which
- 46:48one stood out to you the most? Or what was your favorite?
- 46:52Oh man, it is such a it's such a thing that the quality of life
- 47:00stuff is so under the hood but seamless and so like it.
- 47:07It's it's tough that when you're playing, you don't even notice
- 47:11it till you jump back on the live game and you're like, oh
- 47:14whoa, wait a second, what's going on here?
- 47:17And I I love that. I think that it's a work in
- 47:24progress, but I like the new spellbook.
- 47:28It is. It just it feels more immersive.
- 47:33It feels easier and less claustrophobic.
- 47:36It's just like I when I want to find a spell, I can.
- 47:39It's organized into subchapters where it's like, here's the
- 47:43stuff for your elemental, here's the stuff that's your class,
- 47:46here's a tab for your basic skills, here's, here's all of
- 47:49this, which is so good, and I love that.
- 47:54And it feels like an actual book, like we we haven't seen
- 47:57the the the art isn't finalized. They're still working on that.
- 48:00But even the unfinalized art, you know, one thing they've just
- 48:03kept saying over and over is they're really focusing on like
- 48:06the fantasy of this game, right? And.
- 48:08And making it feel more immersive.
- 48:09And I felt that so much when you just open the spell book and it
- 48:13literally felt like you were opening a spell book like, which
- 48:16is such a small, tiny little thing, but it made it feel less
- 48:19like, oh, I'm going in to tech check this box and go drag down
- 48:23this thing and close this. Stupid.
- 48:25Annoying. UI and I'm fighting with the the
- 48:28way to do things, yeah. Right.
- 48:30Yeah, I was like, I I am a magic caster and I'm opening my big
- 48:33epic tome that includes all of my spells.
- 48:36So I can find the one I'm looking for like very D and DI.
- 48:39Thought, yeah. And so I really like that.
- 48:42I thought, I know some people are saying like, it's big
- 48:45because it fills up the screen and people are like, well, I'm
- 48:48on A1440 monitor and it feels like that because this thing's
- 48:52so big, it's taking up the whole screen.
- 48:54I feel like I'm on a 720 or 1080 monitor, which when somebody
- 48:58said that I was like, oh, you're you're on a 1440 monitor, la di
- 49:01da handling my handling, my inner Lex there.
- 49:05And then I realized I've got a 1440 monitor.
- 49:07So I'm jackets, but I think that the the adjustments that they've
- 49:20made so that you can quickly find stuff, you can quickly drag
- 49:26it to your bars. And I used it a lot.
- 49:28I was one of the people on this alpha build that suffered from
- 49:32whenever I logged out, my bars would get cleared.
- 49:37So all my action bars would be cleared and I'd have to drag
- 49:40every single thing back down to my action bars.
- 49:44Well, so. You know the spellbook.
- 49:45Well, so I've I've used the spellbook a lot of times and so
- 49:48it was definitely something that was quick, easy, and like I only
- 49:54I only needed one page open, folks.
- 49:56I had the page open and I could pull every spell down to my bars
- 50:00without having to flip through and be like where is this again?
- 50:03Page one, page two, page four. Like that.
- 50:06It it's it's just such a big help of ease of use and I I'm
- 50:10hoping that they that even if they do make it more compact for
- 50:16the people who were saying like I want a little bit more compact
- 50:19that it's a toggle and not like just something that like
- 50:22overrides it because this felt just so smooth to me.
- 50:28Yeah, that. Yeah, it it was really pretty.
- 50:31Yeah, for such a little thing too.
- 50:33My favorite quality of life thing.
- 50:36This maybe isn't quality of life so much, but I want to talk
- 50:37about it anyway. There's because this is so
- 50:40Nerubian heavy, there's a mode that you can toggle that
- 50:44switches the spiders into crabs for.
- 50:48It's like, it's called like arachnophobia mode.
- 50:50And I will tell you I will be playing with this mode on
- 50:53because it is so cute. I'm loving these stupid little
- 50:56crabs. They are still scary.
- 50:57Like, it's not like if you switch this on, it's, you know,
- 51:00you enter a cartoon. But I was in love with these
- 51:04stupid little crabs. I love a crab so much.
- 51:07And I thought it was both a really excellent way for the
- 51:12World of Warcraft team to be thinking about the experience
- 51:15from an accessibility standpoint.
- 51:17And you know, making sure that all of the players are able to
- 51:21experience this game with a lot of joy and A and a lot of love
- 51:24and and you know, not feeling like, Oh well I can't access
- 51:28this entire system because of something that's outside of my
- 51:32control. But it also it was just a fun
- 51:36way to experience the game. Like it wasn't a like oh we'll
- 51:41put this accessible feature in so you can you know, so that
- 51:45people think that we're good people and we're so accessible.
- 51:48Woo woo woo. Like they built a really a a a
- 51:54parallel game mode that was as accessible and also as fun and
- 51:58as exciting. Like, like I said, I fully
- 52:00intend to play with this mode on just because I think it's fun
- 52:02and I think that the aesthetic is really cool.
- 52:05So I was super. Easy.
- 52:07I was. It was so easy.
- 52:09I was expecting like, press it, load back in and you're you're
- 52:14good. We pressed it, applied, and
- 52:16instantly crab replaced crab. Yeah, and it wasn't a good
- 52:21remodel, though. Yeah, it was hard to tell
- 52:25whether that was because it was new.
- 52:27I mean, so it it seemed like to me the spider minions were all
- 52:31turned into crabs, but the Nerubians themselves were still
- 52:34Nerubians, which I think makes sense.
- 52:36Like there is some degree of like if you strip everything.
- 52:41I I I can imagine. First of all, I I like I said I
- 52:44don't know if this is just because it's still an alpha, but
- 52:47I can very much imagine that there is some degree of like if
- 52:50you pull the like the entire model away, you are a making a
- 52:55ton of Labor for the developers and B removing something from
- 52:59the game play itself, right Like it is still the Nauruvian
- 53:03expansion. But again, I don't know if
- 53:06that's their mindset or if it's just that it's alpha and soon
- 53:10it's going to be, you know, crab people everywhere.
- 53:14Yeah, because it's a. It's a full model replacement.
- 53:17So you're right. It could be that, like, certain
- 53:19models just don't have replacements yet.
- 53:23I'm not going to play with it all the time.
- 53:25It's fun because it's literally just switching to your menu,
- 53:29target it on, target it off. And I think that that makes it
- 53:32so easy to do that I'm going to love it.
- 53:35But I I don't want to say I have a fascination with spiders, but
- 53:38I think spiders are cool. Oh yeah, Actually there was a
- 53:42dev who had said the exact same thing.
- 53:45I didn't want to do a chime in. Me too, before I just left it
- 53:47alone. But I also think that the models
- 53:51that they've been doing with the Nerubians cause, like you and I,
- 53:54were taking an early sneak peek at not only the dungeons that we
- 53:58were able to play on on Alpha, but all the stuff that they put
- 54:03out with the press kit and going through all of that and it it's
- 54:08gorgeous Nerubian stuff, the raid.
- 54:14The raid is beautiful. They were.
- 54:16So one thing that they were saying and one one of the devs
- 54:20was saying is that they really wanted to focus in on the fact
- 54:23that this is an old civilization, right?
- 54:25This isn't just like a bunch of monsters in their lair.
- 54:29Like, this is probably one of the oldest civilizations in the
- 54:34World of Warcraft, and I think they really succeeded in that,
- 54:38at least in the picture of the raid we were seeing.
- 54:39Like it was epic and it was huge and it was sophisticated, but it
- 54:45was also very thematically consistent and there was thought
- 54:48put into everything, like you, every inch had a spider web in
- 54:52some beautiful little thing. I thought the raid was just one
- 54:56of the most stunning things I've ever seen.
- 54:58Yeah, for sure. And Lex, you and I were just
- 55:01pointing out all those details, the way that the brickwork
- 55:04resembles webbing or the inlay of the windows, the towering
- 55:10stuff, the way that it was hanging.
- 55:12I was trying to compare it to stuff that we've seen before.
- 55:15And there was like a talk of like it being kind of like the
- 55:19Aracoa, where it's up high instead of being down on The
- 55:23Cave. And they built this stuff on top
- 55:25of old civilizations or civilization that's been going
- 55:27for so long that it's it towers up and we have such intricate
- 55:35statues and art pieces that are in there as well.
- 55:39And when you see just the scale because we were looking at, it's
- 55:44not just, it is not just our our spider people that are running
- 55:51around in there. We happen to see some of the
- 55:55Ethereals Void walkers running around there, one that looked
- 56:01like a boss and one that looked so close to Elyria's old teacher
- 56:10as well, with a locust Walker, right?
- 56:14And at first we're like, is is that an ethereal?
- 56:17We're not quite sure. We we were double checking and
- 56:23then we looked up other ones and yeah, flat out Ethereals run
- 56:27around up to no good. I think we've seen them in
- 56:31adversarial positions before, but I think they are going to
- 56:35take a bigger stage, which makes me wonder what's going on with
- 56:38Lucas Walker. We haven't heard from him in a
- 56:40bit. Alari is back in the picture.
- 56:44I want to ask a dev, I gotta, I gotta send out a tweet or
- 56:47something. We gotta get get some answers.
- 56:50Yeah, well, we've always kind of known that he was not, you know,
- 56:56a good. I feel like I I mean I Boyd elf.
- 56:58I do remember that everyone was always a little bit suspicious
- 57:00of the guy, so. I'm not going to lie, I'm.
- 57:04Interesting type. All right, tin tinfoil hat
- 57:07theory, I'm unsure Valeria is going to stay on the good side
- 57:12before the end of this trilogy. I could see her flipping.
- 57:16Maybe kind of Anakin Skywalker Kill and replace?
- 57:23Yeah, so, so I have, I have quite a few big thoughts about
- 57:26where I think this trilogy is going to go and I'm really
- 57:31curious how The Void is going to play into this whole system.
- 57:34I I have some potential ideas where The Void ends up being our
- 57:39best friends. I think I'm, I'm on Team Void
- 57:43now we're we're giving into the whispers.
- 57:45OK. All right, this will be, this
- 57:48will be an episode. We gotta jot all these down of
- 57:51all these episodes that we have to do, but we have to talk about
- 57:54where we think things are going in the World Soul Saga, because
- 57:58this is the first big expansion of the World Soul Trilogy.
- 58:05It is them ramping up stuff and I think that is going to be
- 58:10reflected and how this expansion goes like clearly and the
- 58:15initial stakes are high where Dragon Fight was a lull.
- 58:19This is pedal to the metal pretty much from the go there.
- 58:23There's so much like we were talking talking about happening
- 58:26in just the first little little starting bit for that for the
- 58:31expansion. So I I am very much excited to
- 58:35see where things things will go. But we've got Naifu in the mix.
- 58:41Naifu, who is said to be one of not thee, but one of this
- 58:46expansion's major enemies. That makes me think that maybe
- 58:52we're gonna see in 'cause we're underground.
- 58:57What better time for Ridicron to show up as as a baddie if he's
- 59:05like the Tier 2 boss or tier 3 boss?
- 59:11Either of those ones could work. I hope he's the tier 3 boss
- 59:13'cause I think getting him getting him like ended mid
- 59:18expansion would be a horrible thing for him to happen after
- 59:21his his brother got to like spotlight the end of the
- 59:24expansion. You're a poor man, so Ridicon,
- 59:31I'm hoping to see him back and maybe let let's that lets our
- 59:35Naifu Zalatath run, run a little bit further into the next
- 59:41expansion, Midnight and stuff like there.
- 59:44There's so much going on and so it's very interesting and story
- 59:49story wise we're just getting through.
- 59:51But I think what I really like with what we've seen so far is
- 59:55that once again like they did with Dragonfly initially, they
- 59:59are doing really good at cultures.
- 1:00:02The yeah the Irvin with their four different factions, 2.5 of
- 1:00:12which you see in the initial part of the the PTR cause the
- 1:00:21not PTR alpha because the alpha only lets you get through the
- 1:00:24first three story chapters so. I'm not sure what's beyond it,
- 1:00:29but I've been. We've been introduced to three
- 1:00:31of the four factions within the earthen and this is the group
- 1:00:37that eventually we're going to befriend so much that they are
- 1:00:40going to join us as an allied race.
- 1:00:43And they are doing a really good job of showing how these earthen
- 1:00:48are different from the other earthen.
- 1:00:49These are the ones that have been separated from the Titans
- 1:00:54and so they have been in isolation.
- 1:00:58The they haven't spoken to their masters in a in a while, and I
- 1:01:02shouldn't say Titans, but more the Watchers were what what
- 1:01:06worked with them. So the Watchers haven't been in
- 1:01:08contact with them for a while. They've been isolated, Their
- 1:01:12cultures have evolved. They've some of them have even
- 1:01:17turned their backs on the teaching teachings and forged
- 1:01:21and set off on their own to like create their own identity.
- 1:01:24Some of them have been corrupted, as I was talking
- 1:01:27about earlier. There's a lot going on and they
- 1:01:31like they feel like a fully fledged society that has so much
- 1:01:36going. The architecture is beautiful.
- 1:01:39Oh my God, yeah. And it it definitely, from what
- 1:01:41I was seeing of screenshots and stuff, it was very reminiscent
- 1:01:45of Dwarves without just feeling like a copy paste of Iron Ford.
- 1:01:48Like it was a unique culture and it clearly was very deeply
- 1:01:54developed. But you could also see where it
- 1:01:56would have extended onto the planet and into the dwarfs, as
- 1:02:00we know that. Yeah, and they are not the only
- 1:02:04ones we're going to be looking at, of course.
- 1:02:06We're talking about the Arathi before the show, and they are an
- 1:02:13ancient human civilization that has like made its way here and
- 1:02:18set up their own. Their own place here and we
- 1:02:23again we're like they are involved in a dungeon that we're
- 1:02:27looking at and boy that looks so much Scarlet Monastery on roids.
- 1:02:36And of course there are. There are like the oh, good
- 1:02:44grief, I want to keep saying Nashatar, but it's the spider
- 1:02:47people help me out here, Alex. The Nurbians.
- 1:02:50Nurbians, Thank you Nurbians, you are 100% right.
- 1:02:53The Nerubian empire that is like one of the great empires that
- 1:02:57rivalled the elves and the trolls back in the day.
- 1:03:02And so we're going to be seeing them and I have run across
- 1:03:07Nerubian that weren't hostile to me.
- 1:03:11And so I'm interested if we will get like a little side faction
- 1:03:15that will tell us more about it. Kind of like what we did with
- 1:03:19the the Nightborn where like the large Nightborn force with with
- 1:03:27everybody in the night hold were against us, but we had our
- 1:03:32little splinter group that we were friends with.
- 1:03:36Well and OK, I was like 12 when this came out, so I could be
- 1:03:39very strongly misremembering my bore.
- 1:03:42But didn't we also have a group of Nauruvians that we were
- 1:03:44fighting with during RAF? Give me a second, Lex.
- 1:03:49I'm trying to, like, recover from my old age here.
- 1:03:52You were 12. You know, I was young now.
- 1:03:58I think I was still in middle school.
- 1:04:02There was a small group, yes, that was the small.
- 1:04:09You're wise. Manny let.
- 1:04:12Me, go go dye my beard. But yes, there was a little
- 1:04:15group, yeah. And they were super cool.
- 1:04:18They were our buddies. I want to be, but first of all,
- 1:04:21I want Nerubian playable race. But second of all, I if I can't
- 1:04:25have Nerubian playable race, I at least want the nerubians from
- 1:04:28my buddies. Like I said, I'm.
- 1:04:30I'm giving over to the void, this expansion.
- 1:04:31Manny, you'll never hear from me again.
- 1:04:34There is a modern. Void in this expansion they they
- 1:04:37like it's it's all over the place but it's done well.
- 1:04:42Like it doesn't feel like Legion where everything was fell like
- 1:04:47thus far thus far you know I'm only one zone in and like if I
- 1:04:50was running around like Azuna and giving the expansion of
- 1:04:54giving the impression of the entire expansion.
- 1:04:56I could have said that Legion not everything feels like fell
- 1:04:59but we'll see where it goes. Initial impressions here folks.
- 1:05:04Hot hot take. Like I literally came out of a a
- 1:05:08developer Q&A and we jumped into recording this so that we could
- 1:05:12get it out for you tomorrow. But yeah, I my initial takes is
- 1:05:16that it's beautiful. It is not monotone.
- 1:05:22There is a wealth of different races, fauna, flora, all of that
- 1:05:28in there. And the tone of the story feels
- 1:05:34like a lot of people who have been through the wringer and are
- 1:05:38trying to find the will to to move forward.
- 1:05:41You have seen, yeah, you have seen Andowin and how he feel.
- 1:05:50He looks like he is dealing with some deep trauma and some like
- 1:05:56general PTSD there From this the cinematic thrall who thought he
- 1:06:03was done with it, how many times and just keeps getting pulled
- 1:06:06back in. He doesn't get to hide Jana who
- 1:06:13has lost so much and seems to be rebuilding and we we almost had
- 1:06:20heartbreak for her again. We won't go too much into it.
- 1:06:26In fact, yeah, she does get heartbreak considering what
- 1:06:29What? We know, Lex, But we won't go
- 1:06:31into it. We won't go into it, but girly's
- 1:06:33going through it. That's all I'm gonna say.
- 1:06:36Yeah, so there are a lot of people going through it.
- 1:06:38Not just Jana, not just Thrall, not just Anduin, and clearly not
- 1:06:43just Elyria. And that may be the tone of this
- 1:06:50story about finding the way to move forward.
- 1:06:55But. Well, and that was another thing
- 1:06:57the doves were saying is that like, this is, it's the War
- 1:06:59Within because we're inside Azeroth, but also like everyone
- 1:07:02in the story has this like internal battle that they're
- 1:07:06dealing with. Yeah.
- 1:07:08So there there was a lot to cover.
- 1:07:11We are going to be putting out a ton of content, not just in the
- 1:07:17shows because the show again is back weekly, but we're going to
- 1:07:22be putting out a lot of supplementary contact content
- 1:07:25rather in between. So make sure you are following
- 1:07:28the FAZ Twitter account, you are checking out the Discord.
- 1:07:33Honestly, the Discord is the hub for everything because we will
- 1:07:36be putting out stuff all over the place, especially with our
- 1:07:39new book club coming out as well.
- 1:07:42And if you are looking for all the Wow content, make sure you
- 1:07:46check us out Lex. What are you most looking
- 1:07:50forward to? Because the Alpha is going to be
- 1:07:52available and the floodgates are going to open this week.
- 1:07:57Oh my goodness, I'm I'm, I still think the elf.
- 1:07:59I think that that for me is such a game changer of ways to gear
- 1:08:05and to experience the world and to play on my own without
- 1:08:09feeling overly grindy and without feeling too much
- 1:08:12pressure the way that, like, Torgas was.
- 1:08:15So I am just over the moon at the way that they're pushing
- 1:08:19that through. How about you, Manny?
- 1:08:20What are you excited about? Oh man, I I, I I need those hero
- 1:08:24talents. I need to dive deeper into the
- 1:08:26hero talents. I spent a good amount of time
- 1:08:30day one just trying to figure out how far CEO works, and I
- 1:08:34want to see that with so many of these, I spent a good amount of
- 1:08:38time looking at just the awesomeness of summoning Greater
- 1:08:42Demons as a Diabolis Warlock. So I I really think that as much
- 1:08:49as I was worried about hero talents, and as much as I've
- 1:08:53seen people being worried about hero talents once they get into
- 1:08:56people's hands, I want to see how it is.
- 1:08:58How the community sentiment changes for it for sure.
- 1:09:02Yeah, no, that makes perfect sense.
- 1:09:04But because of popular demand, Lex, I promise you this week I'm
- 1:09:10going to put out all three videos.
- 1:09:12I recorded all three delves in the.
- 1:09:15Totality. So we will be putting that out
- 1:09:18this week just to just for you, we're going to make sure that
- 1:09:22that is the priority. If you if you see that you get
- 1:09:25300 views in the first minute, it's me just watching it again
- 1:09:29and again. And if I get less than that,
- 1:09:31Lexi didn't do your job. Yeah, no, then.
- 1:09:34Then you can blame me. You should send me a message
- 1:09:35like I it's been a minute and I haven't had 300 or did I say
- 1:09:393000? Whatever number I said, yeah, I
- 1:09:41haven't had that many. So see now you can also just add
- 1:09:43it in. You can just say two million
- 1:09:46there, We do. OK, well that's going to do it
- 1:09:50for this episode. Again, lots of content come out,
- 1:09:52lots to talk about. We will be back next week and we
- 1:09:55will have some stuff in between. More announcements to come too,
- 1:09:58guys, so keep it locked in Until next time though.
- 1:10:03Make sure you join us at bit dot LY slash fast, Discord, and Lex.
- 1:10:07Where can people find you? People can find me on pretty
- 1:10:10much any social media you want to at Lex under Score Rants.
- 1:10:15Yep, and As for me, you can find me at true villain Manny.
- 1:10:18That's true without the E on pretty much all major social
- 1:10:21networks. And until next time, guys.
- 1:10:23May all your hits be crits.