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- 0:06Welcome to Group of Porsche, the podcast that uncovers the hidden treasures within grief.
- 0:10I'm your host, Porsche the Producer, and I'm inviting you to join
- 0:14me on a transformative journey where we would exchange laughter, of course, the
- 0:17best medicine of them all, reflect on cherished memories, remember that time that
- 0:21the little boy grabbed my hand instead of his mother's at the amusement park yikes,
- 0:25And of course, discover gratitude while navigating one of life's hardest challenges,
- 0:30loss. So get ready to grew with me, Porsche the Producer, let's
- 0:35dive in. Hey listeners, welcome back to Group of Porsche. I am
- 0:46your host and face Porsche the producer. And before we begin, as always,
- 0:50don't forget to like, share and subscribe to keep up with the latest
- 0:53and greatest of all, grew with Porsche. So, today, you guys,
- 0:57I have the honor of being joined by who I will call a reinvention
- 1:02pioneer who was on a mission to guide more women to a space of empowerment
- 1:07and fulfillment by rediscovering their professional purpose and also redefining success. So welcome,
- 1:15my good friend and founder of a net Garsteck career consulting miss A net Garsteck
- 1:21herself. Hello, Annette, how you doing, oh porschha, thank you
- 1:25so much for having me. I'm doing great. Thanks, awesome, awesome,
- 1:29every day is great. That ends in why and Anet you always know.
- 1:34I love to start off my conversations with gratitude. What are you grateful
- 1:38for today? I am grateful today that I woke up a day above ground
- 1:45is always a really good day. And I'm super grateful for all of these
- 1:51tools that bring us together, Like I mean, my goodness, we can
- 1:55meet anybody on Zoom and have a relationship. I love that. I'm super
- 2:00grateful for you and all of my other entrepreneur friends because being a business owner
- 2:07is not an easy thing to do on your own, and nobody tells you
- 2:10in the beginning, but you really need to surround yourself with other like minded
- 2:15people that keep you going, that tell you it's okay to fumble, that
- 2:19tell you they've been through the same thing and help you keep going, you
- 2:24know, and Nette, I want you to elaborate more on that, because
- 2:27that leads right into our conversation, right Because as entrepreneurs, there are several
- 2:32pits of grief that we fall into on the entrepreneurial journey. So and Nette,
- 2:39can you share with our listeners how you are navigating or in a sense
- 2:46staying afloat with the different waves of grief that come from being a business owner,
- 2:52right from shifting communities to maybe in the beginning, not having a support
- 2:57net or that boat of support. So elaborate more on that for our audience.
- 3:01Sure, I think the change comes when you leave your corporate role.
- 3:07I was in corporate America for over fifteen years. I worked for some really
- 3:10big companies. So working in corporate America has a support system built in for
- 3:16you, right. You have colleagues, you have peers, you have direct
- 3:22reports, you have vendors, you have customers. You're never really alone,
- 3:25and you get to work through things as a group because you work with other
- 3:30people. So that really shifted when I started my entrepreneurship journey, and I
- 3:37wasn't expecting it at all. So I started connecting virtually, of course,
- 3:43because I started my business officially right before the pandemic hit. And then I
- 3:49started connecting virtually with like some really great groups here in Northeast Ohio over Facebook.
- 3:53And then those friendships have gone from the virtual world to the real world
- 3:59like with you. And so the grief that was manifesting itself at that time
- 4:06was more like doubt. I kept asking myself, am I doing the right
- 4:12thing? How did I get here? What am I supposed to do next?
- 4:15What am I supposed to do it all right? And so those questions
- 4:20were hard, and then once I found a group of people to talk about
- 4:24it with, it was less jarring, less disorienting, and it was just
- 4:30part of Okay, I don't know what I'm doing because I haven't found exactly
- 4:34where I'm going. And then once I found my path, then it was
- 4:39a lot clearer to me what I should be doing. And knowing that self
- 4:43doubt is okay. It just means you're growing and stretching and I'm trying new
- 4:46things and it's uncomfortable and it's weird, But that doesn't make it wrong,
- 4:50and it doesn't mean that it's not for me, oh one hundred and that
- 4:56I think you know that doubt piece you know. Of course, there's so
- 4:59many different that are popping in my head, especially this one right here,
- 5:02because as we make that pivot or shift from corporate, there's what I call
- 5:08that loss of identity where the doubt comes in, right, because we don't
- 5:12have that support backing our work, backing our performance, or validation that we're
- 5:20qualified for whatever role we occupy, right versus when we become a business owner.
- 5:28Right, we have to in a sense learn to promote ourselves and find
- 5:32that community of like minded people to remind us of our value and worth when
- 5:39we're feeling that what I call my inner critic, whose name is rump ros
- 5:43self doubt come in and knocking on the door. And so a net for
- 5:47our listeners who are tuning in, right, for those of you who are
- 5:55new to obviously entrepreneurship. Right, I kind of lost my training thought,
- 5:58I'll be real honest, how petty squirrel moll. But where I was going
- 6:00with the whole self doubt thing was that loss of identity, right, and
- 6:04a nette, how did you in a sense learn to work through that inner
- 6:10critic voice of self doubt and turn it into self confidence and work through that
- 6:15grief. That's a great question. So I think the loss of identity is
- 6:21not really a loss of your identity. I think it's something we forget about
- 6:27ourselves. It's a truth that we let be buried. So This happens all
- 6:31the time. When you're in corporate America. Right, you have a coworker
- 6:34or colleague that is very difficult, So you bury the parts of you that
- 6:40find it difficult to work with this person so that you can soldier on right
- 6:44and move forward. And similarly, you forget about the pieces of yourself that
- 6:51enjoy I don't know, promoting yourself on social media media, or promote yourself
- 6:58in a networking group, or you forget about the part of yourself that really
- 7:02hates spreadsheets, right because you have to do them when you're in corporate America,
- 7:08and when you're an entrepreneur or when you're looking to make a transition and
- 7:14rEFInd your passion and purpose, you can remember those parts of yourself so you
- 7:19have not lost your identity. I can assure you that what you have done
- 7:25is you've suppressed him or her, and you've put them in the back burner,
- 7:30and you have to let them back out and show that it's okay.
- 7:34You can be who you are. You can work at a place that has
- 7:39the same values as you or and I just posted about this morning on Instagram,
- 7:46is you can create the kind of work life that makes sense for you,
- 7:51because corporate America is not the end all be all. It's still a
- 7:56very big portion of how people work. But the big companies aren't even the
- 8:01ones that are promoting jobs right now. Right if you want to get a
- 8:05job, you should probably be looking at a mid to small size firm that's
- 8:09under two hundred and forty nine employees, because those are the folks hiring,
- 8:16you know. And that what's coming through for me right now is this level
- 8:20of what I call these limiting beliefs that we have about ourselves that contribute to
- 8:26the self doubt, that contribute to the grief and loss of our quote unquote
- 8:33identity. And like what you said, we tend to, in a sense
- 8:37marry ourselves to a role and forget that we were somebody before this role,
- 8:45right and so a Nette, what would you say was the limiting belief that
- 8:50you had that once you in a sense divorced from your corporate entity and went
- 8:56on your own or gone rogue on your own path of entrepreneurship, what would
- 9:03you say was that limiting belief that kept you in a sense a little bit
- 9:05of a prisoner. And how did you learn to unshackle yourself from the prisoner
- 9:11mindset and become victorious. Okay, that's a great question. So I was
- 9:16raised by baby Moors, and so of course that meant that I was sort
- 9:22of indoctrinated with this belief that once I started working, I would find a
- 9:28really good company and then I would stay at that company until I retired thirty
- 9:33years later. I don't know about you, Porsha, but that's how I
- 9:35grew up. So that was the belief. That belief was shattered for me
- 9:41really really early on in my career. So I think I was about I
- 9:48think I was working professionally as a full time employee for about four years,
- 9:54and I had been promoted already and I was now a salaried Yeah, I
- 10:00was like pretty special. I felt it. And then about a couple of
- 10:05weeks into my employment, I got my first buyout letter. Like, seriously,
- 10:11I was not even promoted for a couple of weeks and they're giving me
- 10:15an offer offering to essentially you retire and leave my job for this amount of
- 10:22a one time buyout. And let me tell you that one time buyout was
- 10:26not even five thousand dollars. So I'm like, oh my god, I
- 10:30just got here. They don't want me here anymore? Do I have to
- 10:33take this buyout? What is this? I was the side of myself,
- 10:37and so I talked with my supervisor, my manager that I really trusted,
- 10:41and he's like, oh, I'll salaried employees got that letter. I'm like,
- 10:46so they don't want any of us here. He's like, no,
- 10:48they want people that are expensive, right, long term employees that are hedging
- 10:54on retiring to take the buyout offer so that they can save money. And
- 11:00I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, this is not what I thought
- 11:01it would be. So I knew from that point that I couldn't just let
- 11:05my career happen to me. That I had to take charge of it,
- 11:11and I carried that theme throughout the rest of my career. I use that
- 11:16theme to often help it my direct reports that we're working for me in corporate
- 11:20America, Because when I'd see something in somebody, let's say I worked with
- 11:24you, I'd be like, Porsha, you're meant for more. What are
- 11:28you still doing here? What are you still doing here in this job than
- 11:31only gives you a two or three percent raise every year? Do you know
- 11:35what you're missing out on? And then, of course when I would help
- 11:37somebody that I worked with, word would kind of get around and then I'd
- 11:41help other folks. And so that's how I really got interested in helping people
- 11:46focus on their careers and find what they're meant for instead of just letting their
- 11:50career happen to them. I think that answers your question, right, ones,
- 11:56because I mean, in a sense, right, you who found this
- 12:01opportunity within the obstacle. Right, they're giving you this buyout letter telling you,
- 12:07hey, thanks for your service. We've taken what we needed from you,
- 12:13and now we want to in a sense, save money, but cut
- 12:18you out of the equation. Right. We're dividing things but also multiplying in
- 12:22other ways. Right. So in a sense, you know they bought you
- 12:28out, but really, the way I look at it, you bought into
- 12:31a purpose driven calling, right, And a lot of us who are in
- 12:37that boat of transition it looks rocky, right, because we don't see all
- 12:45the steps in entrepreneurship versus when you hold a corporate role. Okay, we
- 12:50know what our Monday through Friday is gonna look like depending on our role.
- 12:54We know that when our lunch break is, we know when it's time to
- 12:56get off work. And if we're gonna get stuck and rush our traffic and
- 13:00be ready to pull two picks out of our head type of thing. You
- 13:03know, you get the whole cabut that, and you know I applaud you
- 13:07for answering that call, right, because let's be realistic. I love the
- 13:13word vision, right. I consider myself a visionary because the word vision has
- 13:18two eyes for a reason, it doesn't have an S at the end,
- 13:22because only the vision has been given to you and a lot of people.
- 13:28Because others don't see the big vision, they tend to run away from their
- 13:35calling instead of running to it. And so Anette, before we jump into
- 13:39the next part of the conversation, if one of our listeners was interested in
- 13:45connecting with you and learning more about your work, is there a website or
- 13:48social media handle you can share with us today? Yeah, so you can
- 13:52find me on anetgarstuck dot com. That's my personal website. I hang out
- 13:58on LinkedIn also under my name and at garstuck, and then on Instagram at
- 14:03at an et garstuck. Excellent excellence to those of you who want to connect
- 14:09with the net. You've got her on all the major platforms. You can
- 14:11probably just google her too and you'll find her right find me, you know,
- 14:16Anette, one of the things that I love about you is that through
- 14:20all the odds, you manage to find an opportunity, and you also help
- 14:26your clients to see the opportunity within the obstacle of them navigating this new world
- 14:33of job seeking careers, redefining success and purpose. And as we both know,
- 14:41grief brings a wave of emotions. Right, And let's be realistic.
- 14:46When you were talking about this buyout letter, I'm thinking about all the emotions
- 14:52you're going through, like, oh my god, how am I going to
- 14:54pay my bills? If I've got kids, how am I going to support
- 14:56them? Don't have grown kids that are in college or on their way to
- 15:00You got to pay for prim and all the other things, and then don't
- 15:03be taken care of a sick parent in between that. So, as we
- 15:07both know, grief brings a plethora of emotions. And for somebody who's seeking
- 15:13a new career, they're flooded with all of those things. So how can
- 15:18they really focus on their main goal when their attention span is stretched? So
- 15:26in net, for our audience, how do you in a sense, help
- 15:30your clients right identify their passions, their values, their strengths, and align
- 15:37that helped them to align those with their next career path, considering that their
- 15:43focus is in so many different other areas because of the in a sense beginner's
- 15:50grief journey that they're about to embark on. Sure and Porsha, I dare
- 15:56to say that the grief has already been some thing a job seekers been processing
- 16:03through. And the reason I say that is because something happened that let them
- 16:10know I can't stay here any longer. And there's a million different options for
- 16:14that. Right. It could be that they are no longer working with their
- 16:19favorite leader, that their colleague has resigned, the project they're on has no
- 16:25more fonding and it's being disbanded, and so is the team. A merger
- 16:29and an acquisition. Often that's where people find themselves redundant. They were laid
- 16:34off, they were fired. I mean, there's a million reasons. So
- 16:37by the time I talk to somebody, if they're just in the beginning stages
- 16:41realizing that something's off and they want to make a move, or they've already
- 16:45been made a move against them and they have to respond to it, the
- 16:51grief is already in process. So a few for our first meetings then sometimes
- 17:00go into verbally processing that right because they've told their significant other, their best
- 17:04friend, but they haven't processed through it with a third party objective person.
- 17:11So I do a lot of listening and sometimes I end up being in those
- 17:17meetings with my jaw like right on my desk, like that actually happened to
- 17:22you. A little bit of empathy goes into that, and then what we
- 17:27start to do is identify, because we already have identified what you don't want,
- 17:33right, the grief journey has made it crystal clear that you don't want
- 17:40X, Y or z. So now that we have that out of the
- 17:44way, we can check off that point. Now we can say what do
- 17:48we want? What's important to you, Porscha. What is it that you
- 17:52want to work on next. What's a part of you that you used to
- 17:56set aside at work and now you don't want to do that anymore. What
- 17:59are arrangements are important for you? Do you want to hybrid arrangement or remote
- 18:03arrangement? Do you want to go into the office Because some people do have
- 18:07that. You know they're an extrovert and they want to actually be with other
- 18:14people, and they've been lacking it for the past three and a half years
- 18:17and they're ready to go back. So there's a lot of things to take
- 18:19into consideration, but we're already good because they already know what's happened to them
- 18:26and they have this great starting point. Sometimes what happens in the job search
- 18:33is they've been going at it alone for a little bit already, and that's
- 18:37where we have to bring it back in and say, Okay, you've been
- 18:42going at it alone. You haven't been doing it wrong, but obviously it's
- 18:45not working as the way you imagine it too. So now we're going to
- 18:49optimize what you've been doing, redirect some points, and perfect what you've perfect
- 18:56the actions you're going to take to get the results that you want. You
- 19:00know, and that I'm glad that you hit on that, because in the
- 19:04very beginning, I know a lot of us are kind of forced into a
- 19:07stage of transition in our careers, right, like what you mentioned, whether
- 19:11it's a buyout, you're on the verge of getting fired, you do get
- 19:15fired, you get laid off, maybe there's a medical situation, right and
- 19:19it's hard for us to really see the positive in the situation when our focus
- 19:26is on all the things that are being lost in a sense, yes,
- 19:33right, and so on. That for our audience who is tuning in,
- 19:37right, what's maybe a mantra that they can say to themselves every single day
- 19:45in the mirror when they're on this journey. Right. Because I'm somebody who
- 19:48does right out my mantras every day and I recite them in the mirror for
- 19:52twenty one days. I do that. Shout out to one of my good
- 19:55coaches who taught me that trick. Because it's all about what we feed our
- 19:59mind, right, what we know, what we surround ourselves. What is
- 20:02it the saying of where the average of the five people we surround ourselves with.
- 20:06Yes. And I also think that what we feed our mind is essential
- 20:11to our growth and development. So what would you say in net is like
- 20:14your mantra or a mantra that they can say to themselves when they're in that
- 20:18boat of transition to transformation as they're embarking on their new career search. I
- 20:26love that, So I do have my clients think of their own mantras.
- 20:30But if they're at a loss for something or they don't exactly have the confidence
- 20:36yet to give the mantra. I always like to say that you bring a
- 20:41unique value to whoever you interact with. So if I were to make that
- 20:45first person, if I were saying it to myself in the mirrorsm doing my
- 20:48hair, I bring unique value to every person I interact with, and that
- 20:55alone makes you a person of value. That should really quiet your inner critic.
- 21:02I know yours is named rump roast. I don't name mine, but
- 21:04you know, some days you have to say that to yourself, and you
- 21:08can say that at any time and push. I think it's important to remember
- 21:12that the person you talk to most every single day is yourself. Your mind
- 21:18is boom boom boom. There's a soundtrack going on in there all the time,
- 21:22whether you say it out loud or not. Your body, your brain,
- 21:26your heart is hearing it. So you want to make sure that you
- 21:30feel it with good things. And if you can stop yourself from the bad
- 21:33self talk, notice it, you know, and one of my coaches taught
- 21:38me this trick. Right where you notice it, you write it down and
- 21:42then you're able to let it go. You can just kiss it into the
- 21:45wind. Okay, I wrote it down. It's gone from my brain now.
- 21:49And it's that same process where if you make it to do list,
- 21:53you write it down, you freed up the space in your brain and now
- 21:56you don't have to think about it anymore because it's on the to do list.
- 22:00And that's exactly the process you should use with your inner critics to stop
- 22:03it from jibber jabbering to you all day long, one hundred percent. And
- 22:10then see, I tell mine to shut up, like literally sometimes I just
- 22:14if it's getting too much clatter in my head or I'm like, just speak
- 22:18quiet. I'll shout it sometimes and mister Fletcher looks at me, like,
- 22:21mom, who are you talking to? It's not you, mister Fletcher.
- 22:23It's not you this time. You're being good. So definitely acknowledge it is
- 22:29what I recommend to our audience and let it. Tell it to be quiet,
- 22:33tell it to have a seat, because it take a back seat.
- 22:37I'm doing me, you know, And that what just came back for me
- 22:41is I remember what you just said in our previous question. You know,
- 22:45when you talked about how working with your clients you identify what they don't want
- 22:48right in their next career endeavor and so, and that I know it can
- 22:53be a challenge at times, and I know I can speak for myself to
- 23:00say what I really do want, right, and so for our audience.
- 23:03And then how do you work with your clients to help them state what they
- 23:10really do want? Because if they're so fixated what they don't want, don't
- 23:15want, how do you help them to really shift their mindset to what their
- 23:21heart truly wants and redefine again, redefine what their success path looks like.
- 23:29So, if you know what you clearly don't want, but it's harder to
- 23:33vocalize what you do want, and maybe that's because you don't even know it's
- 23:37possible. Right, So we can sort of go in between there and start
- 23:45to dream. Okay, let's forget that this job does or does not exist,
- 23:49and let's just dream. What would the dream job look like? You
- 23:53know, so for Porsche, for you, what would that look like?
- 23:56For you? Would that look like something where you can be creative and not
- 24:02work on those stinky spreadsheets? Yes, I imagine you'd like for a creative
- 24:06work. I imagine you'd like to work with some people on meaningful projects.
- 24:11So we talk about things in theory, right, because theory is a lot
- 24:15less scary. It's an idea, it's not something you actually have to do.
- 24:21And then once the theory is out there, then we go on a
- 24:25hunt for an ideal or a target job. Right, so you can scour
- 24:30the internet, and again I lift some restrictions if you're really focused on working
- 24:36in person. But you can't find a dream job within twenty five miles from
- 24:41your house, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. So let's open the filters
- 24:47that we have on ourselves and expand and try and get to that ideal or
- 24:52target job and is it out there anywhere? Does it exist anywhere? And
- 24:56then once we find that, then we can sort create how we're going to
- 25:02market you for someone that needs somebody like that ideal job described. And that's
- 25:08a good way to put it in net because I think, and I know
- 25:11for me, I was somebody who was afraid to say what it was that
- 25:17I really truly wanted because I never saw an example. Right. You know,
- 25:22we don't give ourselves permission to dream. You know, I always ask
- 25:26people what do you want to be when you grow up? I still ask
- 25:29that question. So I'm going to ask you, in Nette, what do
- 25:30you want to be when you grow up? So I think this is a
- 25:36wild question, and my thought process on it is evolving. So, you
- 25:41know, doing this full time for the past three and a half four years,
- 25:45I think that that's not a real life scenario. I would challenge you
- 25:52to add this to the end, Porscha, what do you want to be
- 25:55next? What's next for you? Because I don't know what that's going to
- 26:00look like when I fully grow up? Am I ever going to fully grow
- 26:06up? When am I grown up? Like those are all like really very
- 26:12big world questions. So what do you want to be next? And that
- 26:19captures the essence of what you're going through right now? What got you here
- 26:23to this spot? What kind of changes in your life happened? Lots of
- 26:29people go through a job transition because they had a big life transition. Maybe
- 26:33they were caring for someone in their life and that person has passed on.
- 26:38Maybe they were caring for their children and now their kids are out of the
- 26:44house and they're empty nesters. Maybe they were really taking care of a business
- 26:51problem and the business problem is gone because they've found a solution for it,
- 26:56and they found themselves in this place where they're like uh, next. So
- 27:00answering the question what do I want to be next? What's next for me?
- 27:04It's probably a better question because it's really focused and it's not so abstract.
- 27:11It's not so big that I can't imagine. Like, honestly, if
- 27:15you would have asked me what I want to be when I grow up when
- 27:18I was a kid, I would have told you a doctor. Once I
- 27:21got to Kent State and I took calculus, I'm like, oh no,
- 27:23we are not going to be a doctor. So that's how I think about
- 27:29it. That doesn't mean that I'm not doing something that is meaningful. It's
- 27:33just this evolution of who I've become in the things that I'm really really good
- 27:37at and leaving behind the pieces of me that aren't a strong like my calculus
- 27:42muscle. It just wasn't installed, so you know, and that I like
- 27:48that. I'm going to definitely integrate that in my conversation with people, and
- 27:52I'm even going to answer that question for our audience. Please tell me,
- 27:56does Portia want to be next? Yes? So I definitely want to be
- 28:02of service to people in the capacity of those who are making their transition,
- 28:08those who are in a sense walking back home, or what I said with
- 28:14Casey the Death Dealer on our previous episode, A group of Porsche to be
- 28:18a crossroad companion. So that is what's next for Porsche the producer. This
- 28:22is the first time I've announced that, so love it. On a lookout
- 28:26for that journey and endeavor of Porsche the producer, the growth of Porsche.
- 28:34You know, it's funny and that when I think about where I started to
- 28:40where I am today, when you talk about what's next for me, I'll
- 28:47be honest, I never would have thought that where I am today was gonna
- 28:52be the seat that I occupied. Because some of you know this story that
- 28:56my life almost ended in twenty seventeen when I almost jumped off bridge because I
- 29:00met that cross road in my career endeavor where I was unfulfilled. There was
- 29:07a lot of shame, there was a lot of grief, but I didn't
- 29:11recognize it at the time. I'm grateful for my soul mom. Shout out
- 29:18to Sarah Sweeta who called my cell phone right when I was about to jump
- 29:22and told me to take my black a to the hospital because I was not
- 29:27well and the only thing that died that day. In two thousand and seventeen
- 29:33was Portia living the life that other people wanted her to live. And so
- 29:38I'm grateful that I listened. I answered that call no pun intended, instead
- 29:44of like, yep, you know what. No, she heard me,
- 29:48she understood. And I think, you know, as we're in this space
- 29:52of entrepreneurship, right, we need other people again that community, to see
- 29:59us, to hear us, to embrace us in this transition, because let's
- 30:06be honest, and entrepreneurship is definitely a rollercoaster ride. Sometimes it's like the
- 30:11Millennium Force and other times it's like the slow little merrygo rap, the one
- 30:17at Kitty at the kiddie park. Yeah, it's like weird and like shaky.
- 30:25But that's the thing, Porsche. There's no blueprint at all. I
- 30:30talk about there being there no blueprint for entrepreneurship, but really, your career
- 30:34is what you make it. We can't even imagine working in the career that's
- 30:41going to be for us five years from now, or even three years from
- 30:44now. A bunch of the things that you're doing right now, like podcasting.
- 30:48Podcasting wasn't a career ten years ago. It definitely wasn't even an option
- 30:52imagined when I was growing up, So to let our inner critic or to
- 31:00let our a magdala keep us safe, because that's what your brain was trying
- 31:04to do to you. In twenty seventeen, it was like, you're out
- 31:07of options. This is the only way I can imagine to keep you safe.
- 31:12We needed to be kept safe right when bears were outside of our cave,
- 31:17right and we are walking out of the cave, going to hunt or
- 31:19gather whatever where we're supposed to do, and so keeping ourselves safe was great.
- 31:25There's not a lot of high risk to trying something else out, but
- 31:30surrounding yourself with community, either an entrepreneurship community, a professional community, a
- 31:36community of other women, a community of other men, a community of other
- 31:41people that love you is always appropriate. And you can talk with people about
- 31:48your career. If you can't come to a career coach, you can build
- 31:52your own community. You need about a group of five people to get together
- 31:57and discuss issues like this open to me in this meeting? Am I the
- 32:00crazy one? You know those threads unread? It start like that. You
- 32:06don't have to keep it to yourself. You can talk it through. Can
- 32:09you talk it through with somebody? That's really close to you, like your
- 32:13significant other, you could but right there also there to protect you, so
- 32:17their perspective is very skewed. You need an outside group of people that's willing
- 32:22to be honest with you and willing to help push you out of your comfort
- 32:27zone into something new and exciting. And trust me, it's low risk.
- 32:31It is not like walking out of the cave and walking you know, and
- 32:35staring at a bear. It's truly worth it. I definitely agree because you
- 32:40need that community support and to be able to vocally state I want to become
- 32:45a doctor. Even though I'm fifty, it's still possible. You can still
- 32:51turn your career trajectory around as long as you believe and put in the work,
- 32:57the doors are open for you. And not to be afraid. I
- 33:00think we again our brain tries to keep us safe. Yeah, and again
- 33:05we have to tell our inner critic to be quiet, have a seat.
- 33:09And I know for me, I always tell my friends what's the hurt,
- 33:13right, what's the hurt? Take that baby step, and the baby step
- 33:16can just be at least doing the research, because I know for me,
- 33:21I was sometimes afraid to even just do the research on something and just me
- 33:27taking that initial baby step open my eyes to a new world of possibilities.
- 33:36That's really what your career is about. Your career should let you live the
- 33:42kind of personal life that you desire. So identifying what it is that you
- 33:47want and then going after it, even if it's just research, even if
- 33:52you're ruling something out, it's okay to explore, and you should never not
- 33:59explore. And the other piece of advice that I'd love to give is take
- 34:04the meeting. If somebody is calling you, if somebody's messaging you off your
- 34:08LinkedIn saying they want to talk about a job, you should always take the
- 34:13meeting. If somebody has a question about what you do currently and they want
- 34:17to talk about it because they're interested in it, take the meeting. You
- 34:22never know what connection or relationship will be able to serve you in a future
- 34:28time. And the more people you know, the more people you have thinking
- 34:30about you, rooting for you, speaking your name into rooms where you can't
- 34:36be present, and that's what you want. So I encourage everyone to take
- 34:40the meeting. That's a word my drop right there. I mean, just
- 34:45what's the hurt again? You just never know. It's like you know,
- 34:50it's like being a jack in the box. You know what you're gonna get
- 34:52and neither do we. So just it's the luck of the draw sometimes.
- 34:57And what's the saying opportunity is preparation meeting, what the being in proximity?
- 35:05Yeah right, so you just never know. It could be months years down
- 35:09the line that just because you said yes, that door of opportunity open for
- 35:16you organically. Well, Annette, I want to say thank you from the
- 35:22bottom of my heart from just coming on and sharing so much with not just
- 35:28me, but also our audience. Number one, how to redefine what success
- 35:32looks like in our life. Number two leveraging our grief to our advantage,
- 35:38acknowledging that grief is a part of the journey, but it doesn't have to
- 35:42be a permanent stop. And number three taking the meeting, just saying yes,
- 35:47because you never know what will happen just from you taking that leap of
- 35:53faith again. And that for our audience who is tuning in, if they
- 35:58want to connect with you and learn more about you, please share your website
- 36:01and social media handle for us. Absolutely come check me out at anet garstock
- 36:07dot com. It's just my name and I'm also available to connect with you
- 36:10on LinkedIn and Instagram. Excellent, excellent, Well everybody, that was our
- 36:19reinvention pioneer, miss a net garstick that you heard from. And that concludes
- 36:23another episode a Grew of Porsche Season number two. Thanks for listening, Peace
- 36:30and hair Grease, everybody. Thank you so much for tuning in to Grew
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