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- 0:01Speaker 1: You with Cape Talk.
- 0:03Speaker 2: This is Papatan on Lunch.
- 0:06Speaker 1: Today's edition of Wonder the World is for those of
- 0:08Speaker 1: you who are fascinated by planes and all things to
- 0:11Speaker 1: do with aviation and air forces, and I know you
- 0:14Speaker 1: are many in number. We are traveling to a place
- 0:17Speaker 1: you've probably driven past quite often, possibly wondered about, maybe
- 0:22Speaker 1: looked at and thought, what's all that space there for?
- 0:25Speaker 1: Why haven't they built houses on it? But maybe you've
- 0:27Speaker 1: realized it's because there are some quite interesting aircraft coming
- 0:30Speaker 1: into land and taking off occasionally. I'm talking about Asteblood
- 0:34Speaker 1: Air Force Base in Brooklyn, and look, the base itself
- 0:37Speaker 1: is not a tourist attraction, but what is of interest
- 0:40Speaker 1: is the museum that is located there, the South African
- 0:43Speaker 1: Air Force Museum, and it is a real treasure trove
- 0:46Speaker 1: for anybody who is fascinated by aviation history, from vintage
- 0:50Speaker 1: planes to stories of flight to really, yeah, the moments
- 0:54Speaker 1: that helped shape South Africa's aviation story. And it's a
- 0:57Speaker 1: pleasure to have Weatherson Studio today somebody who is absolutely
- 1:00Speaker 1: passionate about this subject. John Wilson from the Friends of
- 1:03Speaker 1: the saaf Museum at aester Platt he's with us to
- 1:07Speaker 1: tell us about the visitor experience there in general, but
- 1:10Speaker 1: also we've timed it specifically to let you know about
- 1:13Speaker 1: an event that is happening this coming Friday that is
- 1:15Speaker 1: quite special. More on that later. Firstly, John, it's wonderful
- 1:18Speaker 1: to have you with us.
- 1:19Speaker 2: Welcome, Thank you, perfas, absolutely fantastic to be Thank you
- 1:22Speaker 2: so much.
- 1:23Speaker 1: It's a huge pleasure to have you with us. Look,
- 1:25Speaker 1: a lot of listeners today, myself included, will never have
- 1:27Speaker 1: been onto the site. We will have driven past it
- 1:30Speaker 1: and often wondered, but never actually set foot on the site.
- 1:33Speaker 1: And I was kind of aware of the fact that
- 1:35Speaker 1: there was a museum they have never visited. Won't you
- 1:37Speaker 1: just set the scene for us and tell us a
- 1:38Speaker 1: little bit about the Air Force Museum and what it showcases.
- 1:42Speaker 2: Absolutely, the first time was ever upen was nineteen eighty seven, okay, Thanky.
- 1:46Speaker 2: It was very small because obviously the aircraft that we
- 1:50Speaker 2: have now or or in operation at the time, so
- 1:52Speaker 2: the museum was very small, made one or two First
- 1:55Speaker 2: World War planes that which have all obviously passed on
- 1:59Speaker 2: and that was that stone stone, you know, and then
- 2:01Speaker 2: the museum was more of a just a hands on
- 2:03Speaker 2: working museum where they would restore aircraft. Okay, then we
- 2:08Speaker 2: move on, knowing to the nineties, and then sort of
- 2:11Speaker 2: we started getting some planes that were being retired from
- 2:14Speaker 2: the Air Force and then we were very lucky to
- 2:18Speaker 2: get some of them aircraft that and we've been built
- 2:22Speaker 2: up over time. Then COVID hit and that's all went dead. Yeah,
- 2:27Speaker 2: and when COVID came back, I took over as chair
- 2:31Speaker 2: and then and I said, and I said, we've got
- 2:34Speaker 2: to get this museum up and running properly, and we
- 2:35Speaker 2: want to get the people out there, you know. So
- 2:37Speaker 2: we started advertising so wet. We did a lot of
- 2:40Speaker 2: work to get the museum ready, and we said one Saturday,
- 2:44Speaker 2: well it was actually Easter weekend, I think twenty twenty two,
- 2:47Speaker 2: myself and a gentleman by Daves Smith, we got together
- 2:49Speaker 2: and said let's get a few of us and opened
- 2:51Speaker 2: the museum on a Saturday. Went to the Air Force.
- 2:54Speaker 2: They said, initially no, it was anything new. They just say, no,
- 2:59Speaker 2: you know that. So anyway, I eventually got right anyway,
- 3:02Speaker 2: said there were five us there, and they laid by
- 3:03Speaker 2: name of Kira, and she looked off to the merchant.
- 3:05Speaker 2: I stand and we had one hundred and fifty people
- 3:08Speaker 2: come through the museum from literally from nought to five
- 3:11Speaker 2: to ten tow one hundred and fifty and it's just grown,
- 3:14Speaker 2: seeing grown, grown, grown. Heritage Day in twenty twenty four
- 3:18Speaker 2: we had seventeen hundred people, Yeah, totally all of us kins.
- 3:22Speaker 2: We didn't know if we were coming or going on Martha.
- 3:24Speaker 2: It was chaos, but it was organized chaos and we've learned,
- 3:26Speaker 2: and we've learned now and on average the moment, you know,
- 3:30Speaker 2: I mean that's a lot of people have been ready,
- 3:32Speaker 2: so that some people come for a second or third time.
- 3:34Speaker 2: Maverage anywhere between two hundred two hundred and fifty people
- 3:37Speaker 2: every single Saturday, really Yeah, And we do a lot
- 3:39Speaker 2: of advertising. We spend a bit of money on Facebook
- 3:41Speaker 2: and Twitter and Instagram, and that's the great and me
- 3:46Speaker 2: being people come in and we welcome them and they
- 3:48Speaker 2: get to see We take them on tours to the hangars.
- 3:51Speaker 2: We have two big hangers. We have thirteen aircraft there,
- 3:55Speaker 2: four helicopters and nine planes. Lovely the kids can get
- 3:58Speaker 2: to skit in some of the planes and aircraft. Feel
- 4:01Speaker 2: was out to be a pilot or just a crew
- 4:03Speaker 2: member and you see that people coming back from the
- 4:07Speaker 2: twos with the biggest smiles. It's other kids all the dance.
- 4:09Speaker 2: You know, you never knows what the biggest smile. And
- 4:12Speaker 2: that is how we've developed and developed, and now we've
- 4:14Speaker 2: grown and we've got about fourteen members and about eleven
- 4:19Speaker 2: juniors in age or fourteen to eighteen. Hopefully they will
- 4:22Speaker 2: take over one day, you know, And we're almost looking
- 4:25Speaker 2: for new and new juniors because we are going to
- 4:28Speaker 2: at some stage we're all going to go into a
- 4:31Speaker 2: better place and then somebody else must take over from us.
- 4:33Speaker 1: And you want to leave behind a legacy that keeps
- 4:35Speaker 1: just going. Well, I just want to put this out
- 4:37Speaker 1: there to the audience who if anyone listening has already
- 4:40Speaker 1: been to visit the Air Force Museum and wants to
- 4:42Speaker 1: just pop through a WhatsApp voice NOTO or text, tell
- 4:45Speaker 1: us what you saw, tell us what excited you the most,
- 4:48Speaker 1: what surprised you, What sort of gem you found there
- 4:51Speaker 1: that had you really really jumping out of your skin,
- 4:53Speaker 1: Because I know, plain people are a special breed of people, John,
- 4:57Speaker 1: and they get absolutely passionate where and absolutely driven by passion
- 5:01Speaker 1: for this. And if you I hear what you're saying
- 5:03Speaker 1: about the little kids who dream of being a pilot.
- 5:05Speaker 1: For them, the opportunity to see an actual plane in
- 5:08Speaker 1: an actual aircraft hangar is amazing. We'll talk in a
- 5:12Speaker 1: minute about what they're going to see on Friday night,
- 5:14Speaker 1: because that's socks off absolutely. I mean, tell us a
- 5:18Speaker 1: little bit about some of the planes that you've got
- 5:19Speaker 1: there and what makes them.
- 5:20Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to need a special one up until
- 5:22Speaker 2: the last. So we have obviously, we have the Harvard,
- 5:27Speaker 2: which was one of the early SEF Suthing Air Force
- 5:31Speaker 2: training planes. We got a Dakota's six eighty three to
- 5:38Speaker 2: two that is actually called the cedar Can Dakota. Now,
- 5:41Speaker 2: if you remember Professor John Smith in the there he
- 5:45Speaker 2: actually went and rescued the second killer sand fish ever
- 5:49Speaker 2: caught in the commerce and he brought it back. And
- 5:53Speaker 2: that aircraft we have was that plane that took him
- 5:56Speaker 2: there to the Camos like that. And then we have
- 6:00Speaker 2: Buccanyear fifty five, which mister John Durant is our manga.
- 6:05Speaker 2: He spent the last ten years restoring that and to
- 6:08Speaker 2: pristine condition. And then we have two Mirages. We have
- 6:12Speaker 2: the Mirage three, which was we had the Mirage f one.
- 6:15Speaker 2: Then we had the Mirage three, and then we moved
- 6:17Speaker 2: to the cheatad and now we have got we got
- 6:19Speaker 2: the first two beautifully. Martin Strump and one of our
- 6:24Speaker 2: members as well, spent a lot of time the last
- 6:26Speaker 2: two years restoring it has just been finished. And I
- 6:29Speaker 2: promised you if it had the authority, that thing would fly.
- 6:33Speaker 2: Obviously it doesn't. The only thing that's missing is the engine,
- 6:35Speaker 2: which was removed at some stage and taken somewhere else. Okay.
- 6:39Speaker 2: Then we have the Superrie superfree and helicopter was one
- 6:44Speaker 2: of the big transport helicopters in the Bush War. We
- 6:47Speaker 2: have the oh not forgot it now, the so cors
- 6:53Speaker 2: Ski is fifty one, which is also a roll Marine
- 6:55Speaker 2: Eco very very old chopper helicopter. And then we have
- 7:00Speaker 2: the Impilor Jet was also a fighter jet and a
- 7:04Speaker 2: training jet for the Silver Falcons based in Lung ban Uh.
- 7:09Speaker 2: And then we have the Saber, which is also a
- 7:12Speaker 2: jet American jet which was used in the Korean War.
- 7:16Speaker 2: And yet yeah, so that there. And then we have
- 7:19Speaker 2: the Vampire and the Ventura, which were basically with event.
- 7:22Speaker 2: The Vampire was also a fighter jet. The Venturer was
- 7:25Speaker 2: one of our coastal planes that guarded our coasts. The
- 7:33Speaker 2: coach also did that, and then we moved on to
- 7:36Speaker 2: the Albatross, but that was after the big special plane
- 7:41Speaker 2: which is which we'll see on Friday, which is the Shackleton,
- 7:45Speaker 2: a ro Shackleton Bomber, and that's what we will talk
- 7:48Speaker 2: about just now on. So we got those aircraft and
- 7:53Speaker 2: absolutely fantastic aircraft that yet we are so passionate about
- 7:58Speaker 2: what we do. We go there on Saturday and I
- 8:00Speaker 2: just love it absolutely.
- 8:01Speaker 1: I mean, John, the passion is pouring out of you
- 8:03Speaker 1: from every port where. Did it start for you? Are
- 8:05Speaker 1: you one of those people who since you were a
- 8:07Speaker 1: little kid looked at the skies and.
- 8:08Speaker 2: Went, you know what a piece of what? Kid? Didn't
- 8:11Speaker 2: you know? Like that? And I couldn't wait to flimb
- 8:13Speaker 2: the first airplane. But final enough, you know, I sort
- 8:16Speaker 2: of took a different road and that and I was
- 8:18Speaker 2: into my sports, into my cricket and dragon. So I
- 8:20Speaker 2: took control, did tours that are very fortunate to go
- 8:23Speaker 2: to a very naice public school. And then I was
- 8:26Speaker 2: accorded to obviously national service to the army. Actually here
- 8:29Speaker 2: in youngs Field days, the Army not there the Army.
- 8:33Speaker 2: Funny enough, I actually wanted to go to the Navy
- 8:35Speaker 2: because I'm a sailor by hot you know so. But anyway,
- 8:37Speaker 2: I went there and spent two years there, and then
- 8:41Speaker 2: in the next five years I decided, I don't know
- 8:43Speaker 2: what I want to do. I ended up but it's
- 8:46Speaker 2: a plot and I spent four or five years there
- 8:48Speaker 2: and all I wasn't a pilot that was still in
- 8:50Speaker 2: the army thing. But all I did was controlled movements
- 8:53Speaker 2: people wanting to go here, go there. I had tod
- 8:55Speaker 2: you what planes were coming in, and then I would
- 8:57Speaker 2: organize with movement and then so right and then and
- 9:01Speaker 2: then send the planes on their way. And absolutely loved it.
- 9:05Speaker 1: And never.
- 9:08Speaker 2: I mean now, any plane the sky, we all look
- 9:10Speaker 2: up and going to flight flight radar and our apps
- 9:12Speaker 2: and we're all looking were all discussing at what plane
- 9:14Speaker 2: that is and listen that you know.
- 9:16Speaker 1: So, and hey, did you see that one listening there
- 9:17Speaker 1: where it wasn't meant to and what was on board? Yeah,
- 9:20Speaker 1: we've got Yeah, just for anybody coming into this conversation midway,
- 9:25Speaker 1: my guest in studio, John Wilson of the Friends of
- 9:27Speaker 1: the s A Air Force Museum at Aster Plot before
- 9:30Speaker 1: we talk about the big event this Friday, Keith asking,
- 9:33Speaker 1: is this the only Air Force museum in South Africa?
- 9:36Speaker 2: No? No, no, no, We have three actually the main
- 9:38Speaker 2: ones SWAT Coup which is now the mobile being deployment
- 9:42Speaker 2: thing which is just in Victoria. That is the main one,
- 9:47Speaker 2: and then we actually a sa Plot and PE are
- 9:51Speaker 2: basically sub museums to but we run on our own completely.
- 9:57Speaker 2: We run. We have a National Nec Committee which we
- 10:01Speaker 2: all meet up once a year for the three museums
- 10:03Speaker 2: and then but that's it. Yeah, so we we we
- 10:06Speaker 2: on our own. We do our own thing. P does
- 10:08Speaker 2: their own thing and so does SWAT Copers.
- 10:10Speaker 1: Well, and you've mentioned several individuals who have worked on
- 10:13Speaker 1: individual planes. Is that at their own cost or is
- 10:16Speaker 1: it just a time? How does it work?
- 10:18Speaker 2: Okay? So we obviously been a National Defense Force place.
- 10:23Speaker 2: We cannot ask for fees. We ask for donations. Besides donations,
- 10:28Speaker 2: so every donation that we receive go straight back into
- 10:31Speaker 2: the museum, into restoration, improving the museum materials, buying products
- 10:37Speaker 2: and lately actually we spend quite a bit of money
- 10:39Speaker 2: because we are moving, we have more people to work
- 10:41Speaker 2: in the planes and move fie faster. So every week
- 10:44Speaker 2: I get a list and I'm going to go and
- 10:45Speaker 2: buy stuff and I'll take it and the next Saturday
- 10:47Speaker 2: and then you spend they spend five hours working there
- 10:50Speaker 2: and then we move on.
- 10:51Speaker 1: So, and what's involved in a restoration is it you
- 10:54Speaker 1: know a lot you spit in polish.
- 10:56Speaker 2: Or when you look at a plane that's just kind
- 10:59Speaker 2: of man, it's been around for a long time, it's rusting,
- 11:02Speaker 2: its corrosions terrible. Then you start at the bottom and
- 11:05Speaker 2: can all get all rid of all the corrosion, and
- 11:08Speaker 2: that I mean can take up because Saturdays can take
- 11:11Speaker 2: up to a year. And then you start. Then you
- 11:13Speaker 2: start priming. Then you're going through all the different things
- 11:16Speaker 2: and you have to remove parts and you have to
- 11:17Speaker 2: do then you get on you're done. Then you've done.
- 11:19Speaker 2: You've done all the painting, which we spray. All all
- 11:22Speaker 2: our members there are top class in what they do.
- 11:26Speaker 2: We all got daytime jobs and we all go there
- 11:28Speaker 2: on a Saturday and then they stop. Penemiather gentleman John Durant,
- 11:33Speaker 2: he does model building. He had does all the details
- 11:36Speaker 2: and all the details that stickers, the letters, the steps
- 11:39Speaker 2: don't stand there or whatever, and you put some more
- 11:42Speaker 2: together on the plane and then that's how we do.
- 11:44Speaker 2: It takes a long time, but it's such a rewarding.
- 11:46Speaker 1: Thing after so the visitor experience is as if it
- 11:49Speaker 1: was brand who you just roll off offly and they're
- 11:52Speaker 1: going to see it as it was when it took
- 11:53Speaker 1: to the sky's and working condition. Cedric just messaging us
- 11:56Speaker 1: to say, I worked at Atlas Aircraft Corporation as an
- 11:59Speaker 1: aircraft elect trician worked on the Mirage MK three in
- 12:02Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties. I visited the aster Plot Museum last year.
- 12:06Speaker 1: It is well worth a visit, Cedric. Thank you for that.
- 12:09Speaker 1: And that's you know, professional endorsement if you like, from
- 12:13Speaker 1: somebody who really knows the industry and knows good from bad,
- 12:16Speaker 1: if I can put it that way. Now, okay, so
- 12:19Speaker 1: you've mentioned no entry fees as such, but obviously if
- 12:22Speaker 1: you've enjoyed the experience, please consider making a donation. And
- 12:26Speaker 1: the fact that you have a friends of the museum
- 12:28Speaker 1: where do you sort of how does that work? Are
- 12:31Speaker 1: you only there on weekends? What happens in the best way?
- 12:33Speaker 2: Well, okay, we have so basically if we can be
- 12:36Speaker 2: the volunteer group you have a Facebook group Friends of
- 12:38Speaker 2: the Staff Museum. Aster plot you must put as plot
- 12:41Speaker 2: in otherwise you might go to another group. And we
- 12:44Speaker 2: have a WhatsApp group. We chat all the time to
- 12:46Speaker 2: right this. We need that we need and I have
- 12:49Speaker 2: a few Actually, who's actually our chairman at the moment,
- 12:52Speaker 2: because you have three four years then you've got to
- 12:54Speaker 2: pass it on to somebody else. That's the way our
- 12:56Speaker 2: constitution works. So I'm just acting vice chairman at the
- 12:59Speaker 2: moment and that and Norman Lawson is our chairman. And
- 13:03Speaker 2: we have another gentleman in Eugene Richardson, and then Martin
- 13:07Speaker 2: Foster and then sometimes and Jeanus is partner. Janus they
- 13:11Speaker 2: go in during the week and they do stock cons
- 13:13Speaker 2: and like that, and they go in fix things. If
- 13:16Speaker 2: we need an aircraft, need something to be moved or whatever,
- 13:19Speaker 2: then we can get us for the help of the
- 13:21Speaker 2: Air Force to move the planes or whatever, because we
- 13:23Speaker 2: can't do that ourselves, we don't have the authority.
- 13:26Speaker 1: You're on a working air base, I mean important to
- 13:29Speaker 1: emphasize that, yes.
- 13:30Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I mean you're going on to restricted the
- 13:32Speaker 2: area and we order to have cards and everything, so
- 13:34Speaker 2: you can't just pitch up there you can go to
- 13:36Speaker 2: the main museum, but then you won't be able to
- 13:39Speaker 2: go to the main hangars during the week. Public aren't
- 13:42Speaker 2: and loud there during the week.
- 13:43Speaker 1: Okay, So if somebody wants the full experience, including the
- 13:46Speaker 1: hanger tour, they've got to come to the Friends on
- 13:48Speaker 1: a Saturday.
- 13:49Speaker 2: You know. That's saying the first impression is the lasting impression.
- 13:52Speaker 2: We have the biggest smiles when people and be shown
- 13:53Speaker 2: me to park and that open their doors for them,
- 13:56Speaker 2: and I'll tell you what then then they smile and
- 13:59Speaker 2: the just absolutely I mean that, the the comments we
- 14:03Speaker 2: get and responses that are just phenomenal, and we be
- 14:06Speaker 2: all so blessed that people actually take their time to
- 14:10Speaker 2: come out and see us and actually can see what
- 14:12Speaker 2: we do.
- 14:13Speaker 1: Gordon asking, is the Mirage F one on display not
- 14:17Speaker 1: the one which Major Rank and shot down and MiG
- 14:19Speaker 1: during the Bush War?
- 14:21Speaker 2: Actually it is the act is it's not his plane?
- 14:27Speaker 2: In fact, now big upon it actually is his plane,
- 14:29Speaker 2: but he didn't fly it last but it was his
- 14:32Speaker 2: plane that shot down under one. Make yes sure, okay, right,
- 14:35Speaker 2: it's it's a mirage and numbers of course, I'm two
- 14:38Speaker 2: and three, okay.
- 14:39Speaker 1: Two three now that's we've avoided talking about the main
- 14:43Speaker 1: canaan if I can put it that way, because something
- 14:45Speaker 1: very special is happening this Friday event with your shackleton. Firstly,
- 14:49Speaker 1: for those like me who don't understand the context, what
- 14:52Speaker 1: is special about a shackleton?
- 14:54Speaker 2: Okay? That is the shackleton was built in nineteen fifty
- 14:57Speaker 2: three nineteen fifty four for the purpose for being a
- 15:02Speaker 2: likely Lancaster bomber in the Royal Air Force, a bombing plane.
- 15:06Speaker 2: We purchased eight of them. They've got four engines, contra
- 15:10Speaker 2: rotating propellers. Big plane but actually once you get inside
- 15:15Speaker 2: you won't believe how small it is inside. But it's
- 15:17Speaker 2: a huge plane. And that was that was brought to
- 15:20Speaker 2: the purpose for protecting our coastlines and the Second World War,
- 15:24Speaker 2: and a bit further and a bit later watching Russian submarines,
- 15:28Speaker 2: Gerblan submarines coming around the coast and then we would
- 15:31Speaker 2: obviously through silver Mine then tell America or the UK
- 15:35Speaker 2: the Royal Air Force say then there are people submarines.
- 15:39Speaker 2: That was that was purely I think control, safety, security,
- 15:44Speaker 2: a rescue and that's what stuff that So it was
- 15:47Speaker 2: never ever used as a physical bombing era aircraft. Okay.
- 15:50Speaker 1: So although that was what it was built for for purpose,
- 15:52Speaker 1: for our purposes, it was.
- 15:54Speaker 2: Coastal patrols and rescue.
- 15:56Speaker 1: Now what are you doing on Friday?
- 15:58Speaker 2: Okay? So let me just speak first. You say us
- 16:02Speaker 2: there are two left in the world, one in South Africa,
- 16:05Speaker 2: one in the UK that the engines actually work, one
- 16:09Speaker 2: in the UK, one in the museums set but they
- 16:11Speaker 2: only run it maybe once or twice a year the
- 16:14Speaker 2: most to feel constraints. We are very very blessed that
- 16:18Speaker 2: we have some wonderful donors and we run it every
- 16:21Speaker 2: second month, okay, and run and normally it's on a
- 16:24Speaker 2: Saturday morning at about ten o'clock US ten. We get
- 16:29Speaker 2: to other people and lately we've been getting seven, eight,
- 16:31Speaker 2: nine hundred people come through and we start up the engines,
- 16:35Speaker 2: read them up you name it by the I mean,
- 16:38Speaker 2: I still get goosebumps after a thousand times hearing that thing,
- 16:41Speaker 2: I still get goosebumps. Right, So this Friday is taken
- 16:45Speaker 2: three years in the making for me to get right.
- 16:47Speaker 2: We going to do a night ground right this Friday,
- 16:51Speaker 2: so as it gets dark and now you're going to
- 16:54Speaker 2: see the strobe light's working, the nav lights, the landing lights,
- 17:00Speaker 2: and the heat plumes from the exhaust from the engines,
- 17:02Speaker 2: which is purple. Now, this is the first one that
- 17:05Speaker 2: I've ever known of, But subsequently somebody said to me
- 17:09Speaker 2: there was one in two thousand and nine, but there
- 17:10Speaker 2: might have been twenty people. Whether he wasn't public. So
- 17:12Speaker 2: this is a milestone for us. And I'd say three
- 17:17Speaker 2: years in making, and they gave me permission about two
- 17:20Speaker 2: months ago to go ahead with it. Which is it
- 17:23Speaker 2: just it just blew my mind. I said, we are
- 17:25Speaker 2: going to make this an incredibly event. And it's not
- 17:28Speaker 2: just about the ground run. It's a whole evening affair, no,
- 17:32Speaker 2: and it's compass upper come, come as something to drink
- 17:34Speaker 2: and accordings. Kids can do whatever you want, play on
- 17:37Speaker 2: guns and you know like that. So it's really ready.
- 17:40Speaker 2: It's going to be fantastic.
- 17:41Speaker 1: Okay. So the idea is you come, you see the
- 17:43Speaker 1: plane engines started on the ground. You're not taking it
- 17:46Speaker 1: into the air, but on the ground you will see
- 17:48Speaker 1: it worth its right and in the dock, in the
- 17:51Speaker 1: dock with all of the lights and go with that.
- 17:54Speaker 1: Plus have the experience of the rest of the museum
- 17:57Speaker 1: in a very sort of tactile.
- 17:58Speaker 2: For absolutely it's compass supper, I mean Cremil, Hamburger's, briv Us, Roles, accordings,
- 18:03Speaker 2: you name it, and be flaming. All the lights are
- 18:05Speaker 2: going to be lit up like a plane gied lit up,
- 18:07Speaker 2: and we're going to have a DJing going and music
- 18:10Speaker 2: and so it's going to be an absolute awesome.
- 18:12Speaker 1: See. I mean if you yourself are somebody who is
- 18:16Speaker 1: crazy about planes, But more importantly, I'm thinking of those kids.
- 18:19Speaker 1: If you've got the little boy or girl in the
- 18:21Speaker 1: household who is mad about them, who loves building the models,
- 18:24Speaker 1: who is fascinated. It always amazes me, John, how little
- 18:27Speaker 1: kids you claim they can't manage their schoolwork. You know
- 18:30Speaker 1: the model numbers and who the red capacity and whatever
- 18:33Speaker 1: the functions of an airplane might be for thirty different planes,
- 18:36Speaker 1: and hold all of that information in their head because
- 18:38Speaker 1: they're interested in it. Those kids obviously are going to
- 18:41Speaker 1: just be in awe of what's happening on Friday. So
- 18:44Speaker 1: tell us what we need to know. If you want
- 18:45Speaker 1: to come to this event, do you need to book
- 18:47Speaker 1: show up?
- 18:48Speaker 2: How does it work? We put it all over Facebook
- 18:50Speaker 2: and instagramming. Just be near by six o'clock. It's going
- 18:53Speaker 2: to take it. It's going to take a while to
- 18:55Speaker 2: get fifteen hundred people through the game. Okay, just to
- 18:57Speaker 2: ride at six o'clock. You'll be welcomed by a pocket
- 19:00Speaker 2: and tenants. They'll show you at a park where the entrances.
- 19:02Speaker 2: You'll come into the main entrance be will come signing
- 19:05Speaker 2: you obviously be able to sign in just rules of
- 19:07Speaker 2: the Air Force signing there. And then they can go
- 19:09Speaker 2: to the tables and say would you like to give
- 19:11Speaker 2: us a donation. We have a donation box and they
- 19:13Speaker 2: can put five round in, ten round, twenty round, and
- 19:15Speaker 2: we have card machines as well. So they come there
- 19:18Speaker 2: and then now they're going to ab look at the gym.
- 19:20Speaker 2: They're going to join them gym. You got my main hall,
- 19:23Speaker 2: we got lampers, we got tunnels. We've got tunnels. It's
- 19:26Speaker 2: actually one of the tunnels which came from the Danguere
- 19:28Speaker 2: Air Force Base in Namibia. And then and then at
- 19:32Speaker 2: a certain time, depending on light. Obviously it's all gonna
- 19:35Speaker 2: work on time. Then about I would say about twenty
- 19:38Speaker 2: plus seven. We're going to then take a walk where
- 19:41Speaker 2: you have a safety brief and everything. Because we are
- 19:43Speaker 2: going on the restricted area. We'll go walk, We'll go
- 19:46Speaker 2: to the hangars for a little bit and soon as
- 19:48Speaker 2: I see it's dark enough, then you'll walk with is
- 19:50Speaker 2: just two minutes, three minutes down to the hard stand
- 19:52Speaker 2: where the shackleton is and there'll be silence and then
- 19:55Speaker 2: they'll do their thing, and then four and for twenty
- 19:58Speaker 2: minutes later, for for twenty months, sorry, and then afterwards
- 20:01Speaker 2: we all go back straight back to the main museum.
- 20:03Speaker 1: Okay, so six o'clock Friday evening at the aster Plot
- 20:07Speaker 1: Air Force Base. For more information, do look for the
- 20:09Speaker 1: Friends of the saaf Aesta plot very important to write
- 20:13Speaker 1: in the ester Plot. Look for them on social media
- 20:15Speaker 1: for more details. But John, I hope you're going to
- 20:17Speaker 1: get people coming by the hundreds to be part of
- 20:19Speaker 1: this exciting event. Well done for getting it right to
- 20:22Speaker 1: make it possible, and thank you so much for joining
- 20:24Speaker 1: us in studio to flag it for Ouriinster today.
- 20:26Speaker 2: Thank you Pepa for putting out into the airwaves and
- 20:30Speaker 2: I know it's going to be a massive success in
- 20:32Speaker 2: that and now we'll definitely let you know how it
- 20:34Speaker 2: went after.
- 20:34Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
- 20:35Speaker 2: Thank you Thank you for having me.
- 20:36Speaker 1: It's a huge pleasure. John Wilson of the Friends of
- 20:39Speaker 1: the Saaf Museum at Ayester Plot. It's happening this Friday
- 20:42Speaker 1: evening at six o'clock