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Exploring the 2024 Lexus GX 550, Decoding Vehicle Window Stickers, and Celebrating the 2025 Dodge Durango R/T · In Wheel Time Podcast

• 0:11
  Speaker 1: all right time now for this hour's car review.
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: I had a chance to drive the 2024 lexus gx 550.
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: This is a new vehicle.
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: Available trim levels include the 550 Premium, the Premium Plus, the Overtrail.
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: I wrote down here Overtail, but that's not it, it's.
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: Overtrail, the Luxury, with a Plus version for each of those.
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: I had the Overtrail four-wheel drive.
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: This is a standard SUV, Mars, Kind of like that thing that you were driving.
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: You were thinking what is a standard SUV?
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: It's about the size of a Chevy Tahoe.
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: It'll seat five, six or seven people.
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: We did not have the third row.
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: It had five seats in it and that's just fine with me.
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: Don't cram that third row into a vehicle that size.
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: It doesn't work, please don't uh, exterior changes from last model year, all new for 2024.
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: It looks so much like a land rover range rover it's scary, yeah, land rover styling cues um, very boxy, attractive design.
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: Um, it's very different for lexus squared off wheel openings, flat nose, modern front end with modified lexus grill.
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: Squared off rear lighting as well.
• 1:33
  Speaker 1: What I liked about it?
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: The clamshell rear gate with the ability to open the top glass only.
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: What could use improvement?
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: Nothing, we just need more of it or like it anyway.
• 1:46
  Speaker 1: Interior highlights rugged design, styling.
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: Uh, huge in-dash 14 inch infotainment screen.
• 1:53
  Speaker 1: Uh, with a very likable operating system, and it is built into the dashboard.
• 1:58
  Speaker 1: It doesn't sit up there like some add-on.
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: Uh, comfortable and supportive, perforated leather seating, off-road capability plus luxury Cargo and trunk room plenty without that third row.
• 2:11
  Speaker 1: What I liked?
• 2:11
  Speaker 1: The cool box in the center console.
• 2:15
  Speaker 1: So if you've got something that you want to keep cool, a beverage that you want to keep cool, you open the center console lid and there's a little box in there.
• 2:25
  Speaker 1: You hit the little button and ice coldness comes to it.
• 2:29
  Speaker 1: What could use improvement?
• 2:32
  Speaker 1: Again, I don't get the third row version.
• 2:35
  Speaker 1: The vehicle's just not big enough for a third row.
• 2:37
  Speaker 1: I understand why they do it.
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: Hey, we're going to make it anyway.
• 2:42
  Speaker 1: It's not going to be that big of a deal.
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: It's a young family, I guess.
• 2:47
  Speaker 1: Engine a 3.4 liter twin turbo V6 that acts like a V8.
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: 349 horsepower, 479 pound feet of torque, making it truly off-roadable.
• 2:58
  Speaker 1: 10-speed automatic transmission with a tow rating of four tons.
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: Manufacturer is miles per gallon 15 in the city, 21 on the highway combined to 17.
• 3:09
  Speaker 1: I got 18 miles per gallon over 325.5 miles.
• 3:13
  Speaker 1: What I liked about it?
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: The powertrain is well matched to its capability.
• 3:19
  Speaker 1: Now, I personally did not go off-roading with this thing, nor would I, because I don't want to scratch it and I don't want to have to call those fine folks over there at Lexus and go well, I scratched it.
• 3:34
  Speaker 2: Take it to Jason's shop.
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not.
• 3:35
  Speaker 1: No, I don't want to take it to any shop here.
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: I got it, I'm doing the review.
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: That's good enough for me.
• 3:41
  Speaker 1: That's a good-looking vehicle, man, I'm telling you, riding handily, as I said.
• 3:46
  Speaker 1: A body-on-frame architecture.
• 3:48
  Speaker 1: What I liked about it, those 33-inch all-terrain tires, massive Steamrollers with lugs, is the way I look at it.
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: Adaptive variable suspension on those 18-inch wheels is very nice as well.
• 4:05
  Speaker 1: Now you can get into this for $62,900.
• 4:09
  Speaker 1: Prices tested is $71,620, and it's pretty much loaded up Competitors Land Rover Defender 110 for $73,475.
• 4:19
  Speaker 1: That's their most popular vehicle, by the way.
• 4:22
  Speaker 1: The Ford Bronco starts at $39,630, and the Jeep Wrangler for $31,995.
• 4:28
  Speaker 1: Well, don, why are you doing it that way?
• 4:30
  Speaker 1: Because there really isn't a lot of competition in that particular style of vehicle.
• 4:36
  Speaker 1: There just isn't.
• 4:38
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure that there'll be more if they sell a lot of these things.
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, man, if I'm into that off-roading luxury thing, I'm seriously going to look at this.
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: It's not going to be the land rover defender, no, it's a nice, nice.
• 4:52
  Speaker 1: Mars even turned his nose up when I said that.
• 4:54
  Speaker 3: You know I really like the ones I was in, but as far as an everyday thing, this.
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: This could be an everyday thing easily yeah, yeah, I could see that so I'm a huge fan.
• 5:05
  Speaker 1: I really like it a lot.
• 5:06
  Speaker 1: I like the Lexus brand.
• 5:08
  Speaker 1: I like the lineup.
• 5:09
  Speaker 1: I like what they do with their vehicles.
• 5:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan of that.
• 5:14
  Speaker 1: What do they call spindle grill?
• 5:16
  Speaker 1: It's just not my cup of tea.
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: But they keep changing it up to make it different for particular model years.
• 5:23
  Speaker 3: They're trying to find one you like.
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I do like the NX and I'm going to review that next week.
• 5:31
  Speaker 1: So, anyway, that's my review of the 2024 Lexus GX550.
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: Hey, if you'd like to get in touch with us, shoot us an email.
• 5:41
  Speaker 1: The address here is info at inwheeltimecom.
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: We'll be back after this wwwinwheeltimecom.
• 5:54
  Speaker 1: Time now for Jeff's feature of the day.
• 5:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how to read a car window sticker?
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: Now, mars and I, we do it all the time because we get all of our information on the cars that we review from that window sticker.
• 6:07
  Speaker 1: Well, not all of the information, but on that particular car, and it can be complicated because there's a lot of stuff on there.
• 6:13
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely.
• 6:14
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 6:14
  Speaker 2: This is what we got.
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: Let me bring it up for you and everybody can follow along at home.
• 6:18
  Speaker 2: You don't need your in-wheel time decoder ring or anything.
• 6:21
  Speaker 2: So how to read it?
• 6:22
  Speaker 2: Anyone who's actually shopped for a new car?
• 6:25
  Speaker 2: You look at the window sticker.
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: That's the first thing you do.
• 6:27
  Speaker 2: You look at the body.
• 6:27
  Speaker 2: You look at the window sticker.
• 6:28
  Speaker 2: Is that of information?
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: Well, there's 10 keys of interest on that sticker, so you got to keep this in mind when you're looking at it.
• 6:35
  Speaker 2: There it is, follow along.
• 6:37
  Speaker 2: The number one thing that we're going to look at today is the model information.
• 6:41
  Speaker 2: This is where you find the basic model information of the vehicle.
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: This section is usually located at the top, left or right of the sticker.
• 6:48
  Speaker 2: It tells you the engine, transmission combination, exterior, interior color, year of the vehicle, the type of the vehicle it is, and you can check the window sticker to ensure that it is the right car that you're actually looking at.
• 7:01
  Speaker 2: That would be the number one on the video.
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: Correct, number one on the video.
• 7:05
  Speaker 2: Now, this is an example of a 2021 Ford Expedition.
• 7:08
  Speaker 2: So if you're a different kind of brand person, this is just the example we have.
• 7:12
  Speaker 2: The number two on.
• 7:13
  Speaker 2: This is the standard equipment.
• 7:15
  Speaker 2: The section of the window sticker lists all the items featured that are included in the manufacturer's suggested retail price, or what they call the MSRP.
• 7:23
  Speaker 2: Items listed here should be consistent with any of the vehicle's trim levels for that vehicle.
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: These items are grouped into such categories as exterior, interior safety, security, comfort, convenience and mechanical performance.
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: So that's what's in number two.
• 7:38
  Speaker 2: The number three section move along over there the warranty information.
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: This section lists the length of the vehicle's cars, bumper to bumper.
• 7:45
  Speaker 2: In the powertrain warranties it's noted any roadside assistance packages from the manufacturer as well.
• 7:51
  Speaker 2: Some new cars also come with free maintenance programs and that's where this coverage is also listed there for them.
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: If you need more information about roadside information, you can go to Edmunds.
• 8:02
  Speaker 2: They have a comprehensive warranty guide for roadside assistance.
• 8:06
  Speaker 2: Number four, moving along, is the optional equipment.
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: In this section you'll find the information of the vehicle's factory-installed options.
• 8:13
  Speaker 2: Some car makers bundle them into packages like the SEs and the XLEs and all that other good stuff.
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: Some offer an a la carte.
• 8:22
  Speaker 2: It used to be in the old days.
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: The a la carte was the way to go back in the 70s.
• 8:25
  Speaker 2: That was cool because you could get all kinds of horsepower and all kinds of good things on that.
• 8:30
  Speaker 2: So check that out.
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: You want to compare it to make sure it's apples to apples on what you're looking for.
• 8:35
  Speaker 2: The number five section on this is the pricing information.
• 8:38
  Speaker 2: That's where you'll find the basic price of the vehicle.
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: It breaks down of all the other options and the fees that you're going to pay for on the a la carte or the factory install.
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: There's usually a bend over part of that as well.
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: That's number 11.
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: We're not there yet, oh okay.
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: Other items that would appear are the destination charges, cost of transportation and so on.
• 8:56
  Speaker 2: Is there a gas guzzler tax Levied on cars with a combined MPG of 22.5 miles per gallon or less?
• 9:04
  Speaker 2: There's a consumption guzzler tax Incredible.
• 9:06
  Speaker 2: So the total price of the vehicle is sometimes located there but often occupies its own space on the sticker.
• 9:13
  Speaker 2: So the number six we have is the parts and content information.
• 9:17
  Speaker 2: The vehicle manufacturing is offering a global process.
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: In some cases the engine production, transmission, build and final assembly of the vehicle take place in different countries.
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: The parts content section lists where the vehicle is assembled and the percentage of the US and Canadian parts it contains.
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: This sample window sticker does not have the percentages but others do, for example purposes.
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: We didn't put it on there, so for information about this you can also go to the National Highway Transportation Safety Board and look it up per that vehicle.
• 9:49
  Speaker 2: Number seven we're moving along.
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: The section shows the MSRP of the vehicle.
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: Doesn't mean you have to pay that price, but it gives you a point of reference for negotiation.
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: So look at that.
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: Number eight fuel economy label.
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: The fuel economy label, also the EPA label, gives you estimates of the vehicle's fuel efficiency.
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: This block helps you compare the MPG or miles per gallon numbers on one car versus another, the combined MPG number is the most prominent and most important figure to note.
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: Number nine is a QR code.
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: All that does is tell you the stats.
• 10:22
  Speaker 2: Everything that you're looking at on that sticker is in the QR code.
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: So if you're technically able to do that, you can just go ahead and click that with your QR and bring all the information up.
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: And lastly, the number 10 safety ratings.
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: The National Highway Transportation Safety Administration tests the number of new vehicles every year and issues star ratings for the results.
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: So if you've got one that you're into more higher safety than mileage and things that's the information you'll find with it and you can just move on and buy that car.
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: I recommend a Buick, by the way.
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: You used to recommend the Cadillac.
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: You still recommend Cadillac.
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: I do recommend Cadillac.
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: I just kind of not want to pay a price for just the name.
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: So I get everything in my Buick that the Cadillac had.
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: You know that Buick probably and I didn't look for it, but that Buick probably went down the same assembly line as the Cadillac.
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: It has the same 2.0 liter turbo as the XT4.
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: And nobody would probably notice if you put a little V on it to make it go faster.
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: Well, I put it upside down as an N.
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking GNX, gnx.
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: That would be the Buick with the supercharged engine.
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: GSX GNX.
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: Is it GSX, gsx, gnx?
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: Uh, that, that would be the, uh, the buick with the supercharged engine gsx gnx gsx, but I think the gnx was the really super high performance I'm gonna order it through pro-am do it.
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, john.
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: What can you do for me on this deal?
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: I need that, you know.
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: I think, think let's do the dodge.
• 12:01
  Speaker 3: Durango review, mr mars had a chance to drive that do do to do and I was really surprised when the 2025 dodge durango showed up in the driveway.
• 12:08
  Speaker 3: Uh, for one thing, I was pleasantly surprised that they're still building it.
• 12:13
  Speaker 3: At least they've got, haven't lost everything.
• 12:15
  Speaker 3: They've still got a little bit of performance in their vein somewhere.
• 12:18
  Speaker 3: And this is the Dodge Durango.
• 12:19
  Speaker 3: This is the 20th anniversary premium all-wheel drive version.
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: Now there are 10 trim levels listed on this thing.
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to go through all 10 of them.
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: Take my word for it.
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: We were the seventh from the bottom, so we were pretty well equipped, but not fully all the way up to the.
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: It's a full-size three-row SUV.
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: Now I say it that way because it's kind of a tweener.
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: It's a small full-size or it's a big mid-size.
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: I can't find anything on Stellantis that actually says what they categorize it as, but several places refer to it as it's full-size.
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: Several refer to it as a mid-size.
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: What did the window sticker say it don't, it don't, it don't.
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: It, don't, it, don't it, don't play.
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's proper English, but go ahead Anyway.
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: So we're going to go with that Three-row SUV.
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: Let me see your window sticker.
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: Do you have it?
• 13:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, and it seats six people, so we had the six-person setting.
• 13:13
  Speaker 3: Now, on the outside of it, you're going to find LED lighting all the way around, including the automatic headlights, auto-leveling headlights, which I really like the way some of this automatic stuff has gone and with the headlights it has the black trim package on it, including the roof rails and the badging, and it had the Hellcat-style performance hood, you know, with the end scoop and the air extractors, and it looked really good.
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: And that's the first thing you think of is oh, it's Hellcat?
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: No, it's not.
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: So it has multifunction fold-away mirrors.
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: What does it got?
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: here Fine print.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: I can't read that Standard SUV Body on frame, I assume.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: So what is a standard?
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: Is that?
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: midsize.
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: According to the government, it's a standard SUV.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: Well, it's probably a large SUV in the government size.
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: Yes, okay, I don't like this.
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: I like the midsize, full-size, compact.
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: They don't do it.
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: No, they don't do it, though I know.
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: Unless they're going to get into that.
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: It depends on what the marketing people want it to be Subcompact, compact, that sort of thing.
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: This is a standard.
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: So a standard would be about the size of a Tahoe or a Suburban.
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: See, to me those are full size.
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: And if you look at some places, they call them full size.
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: Well, this is a standard size.
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: Okay, standard size.
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: We're going to have to figure out what a standard size is, jeffrey.
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: I'm holding the video, so go ahead so you're also.
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: We also had uh, looks at the mirrors.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: We had the power sunroof, got a power lift gate on it and we were rolling on some special 20 by 10 brass monkey wheels.
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: Now this brass monkey is a special, another special edition they come out with that.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: It's against the law.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Brass monkey on the radio, you can't do that.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: Well, because it has other connotations.
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, monkey shine well during the commercial.
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: You can tell me what that is, but let's not go there now.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: So, and when we get to the inside of it, we had the SRT performance seats on it Because this is part of the SRT family.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: We had the premium industrial Premium instrument panel, which is 10.1 I can't read my own writing, well, you can't read 10.1 touchscreen with the Uconnect 5 system and it works really good.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: Like we've always talked about the Uconnect system.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: There's a couple of places and I think that's a problem with the screen to where you have to touch it a couple of times, but once it connects it really goes to it quick and I've always liked it.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: We had the heated and ventilated front seats.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: We had the second row captain's chairs, which is what makes it a six passenger, and the second row chairs are also heated.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: Uh, the third row is easier to get into with the captain's chairs because they fold up a lot better and they'll fold forward a whole lot easier to make it easier for the kiddos to get into the back.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: Then we had the 19 speaker hardened carmen uh, premium audio system with a subwoofer and it really sounded well.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: Of course, I like listening to the motor on it, so I didn't turn it up that much.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: What kind of music do you listen to, buffett?
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: A little bit of both Both.
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Both what?
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Country and Western.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: You're the god Under the hood, speaking of which I need to go lay down.
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: I was really glad they still have it, the 5.7 liter V8 Hemi.
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: Now, this is not the Hellcat, although the Hellcat's still available for $25,000.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: I guess they had some leftovers 360 horsepower, 390 pound-feet of torque.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: They forgot that they offered one and they just haven't gotten to kill it yet.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, somebody snuck it out the door.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: It's got the 8-speed automatic.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: That's pretty well standard across all their vehicles.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: So it's got plenty of power and plenty of torque.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: So this thing is rated, with the tow package, to tow 8,700 pounds so you can tow your big RV, your big boat.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: It'll tow quite a bit.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: However, the EPA says in the city you should look for about 14.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: On the highway about 22.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: And combined 17.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: Ta-da, ta-da, ta-da.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: I got 16 the week I was driving it.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: So I was pretty happy with that.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: But again, we're out on the highway quite a bit.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: And it does have the sport suspension and it's got several different modes.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: You have the sport mode, the track mode, the tow mode, the snow mode and it does come Holla mode, holla mode, holla mode.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: That's the snow mode and it does come mode this if you go to san antonio, it does have the flat run tires on it, which I was a little uh thinking I've never been a fan of flat runs, run, flat run, flats, damn.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: And uh, theoretically because, because they're always, they're always right theoretically and and I've never liked it.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: But with the suspension this thing's got, it's got a sport suspension on it, but you really don't notice that it's the run, flat tires, and so it's just a stiffer ride it is, but uh, you kind of, they kind of blend in, I guess, is what I'm saying.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: Uh, it is a heavier vehicle because it is a big suv.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: I think if you were out on a road course or something you'd really notice it.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: But driving around town, driving around on the highway, it's a very pleasant vehicle to drive.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Other than you know you're in a little bit larger vehicle.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I can't wait for Kimberly Schultz to listen to this.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: Kimberly, we love you.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Never mind, I'm going to have to edit it a little bit.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: So the base model price on the Durango is $43,590, which I didn't think was bad at all.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: The base trim price for the 20th anniversary premium all-wheel drive is, I mean, 20th anniversary is $54,495.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: However, with some of the options that we had on here which there's a whole lot of them as far as the, there we go.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a bunch of things like break, black brake calipers.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: I thought was kind of strange, but it's part of the black trim package 72 460 dollars for the msrp, which, if you start looking across uh, some of the things again I looked I really didn't find anything in the mid-size suv that I thought compared to it because of the performance.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: But if you look at the kia telluride, it starts at $3,785 versus the Durango at $4,355.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Well, the Mazda CX-90 at $3,785.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: However, if you step up and look at the little bit other side of it, the Chevy Tahoe, and consider it a standard vehicle, standard size SUV, well that thing's going to start at $60,000 versus the $43,000.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: So to me it's kind of a tweener, but when you package the performance aspects to it, I personally think there's not much you're going to compare it to.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: So if you got the Hellcat motor in this thing, you're probably looking at close to $100,000.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking that Probably so.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, probably Another $20,000 tacked on it for the motor, if not more, they Another 20 tacked on it for the motor, if not more, they may give you a discount if you're buying the last Hellcats.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: And we talked about it earlier.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: What's the gas guzzler tax too?
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Probably the Hellcat.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Hellcat.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Yep, probably so.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Yes, as a matter of fact, I know there is, because I remember from the last time I had one, I was surprised that it was that much, considering it would get 20 miles to the gallon out on the highway.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Ooh, okay, the problem is nobody drives it that way because they got their foot off it.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Not in Nederland, no.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but anyway, that's the Dodge Durango 2025.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Thank you, and thank you Dodge Motor Company and Kimberly Schultz.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: We appreciate you, thank you.