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Haunted and Waiting with Ann Lund · Eye Opener Society

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Hey everyone, it's Hannah here from the Eye Opener Society. Of course, I am here with Gary.
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So Hannah, tonight, I wanted to lead you in on this.
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We have a guest on our show via telephone,
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a personal friend of mine, and I wanted her on because even before I met her,
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I had a close friend and he used
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to tell me about her house and
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okay the stories i heard about the
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hauntings you know as as a kid back in
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high school i was like there's just no way these stories are outrageous
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and i know my buddy chris used to
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tell many tall tales he was a
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salesman so i can never really believe
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everything he was saying mm-hmm but I'm
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also met you know our guest who's gonna be introduced shortly I met her brother
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too and he started confirming a lot of this you're like oh shit so I'm like
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maybe there's some true yeah you know but everybody makes up stories and at
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that age there's wild imaginations however all of this was actually true and.
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Our guest lived and grew up in this haunted house.
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And the stories are amazing. And I am going to sit to at some point tonight
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and share a story along with our guest of something we did.
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And I really feel this is the perfect wrap up for the end of our paranormal February.
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It's going to be a lot of excitement. You get to hear firsthand some of the
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stories that you probably have not heard to.
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So, yeah, this goes back to my high school days. and I
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also want to mention that our guest is in the
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process well she's doing a blog page that actually explains
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a lot of this wonderful blog yeah and you get to read
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these stories she breaks them down into little episodes and it's amazing she's
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a wonderful writer you know and I don't say that just because she's a friend
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she really is because you know me I love writing yeah she does a wonderful blog
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and I'm going to be giving that information out too and hopefully Hopefully
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she's going to work on this. It's going to become a book.
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I hope it does, because this is a book I'd have all over the house.
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Of course, it'll be a signed copy, and I want the first one,
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but I definitely want this.
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So anyway, I want to introduce to you our guest tonight, Anne Lund.
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Anne, how are you doing?
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I am fine, and I'm so happy to see both of you. I'm healthy and happy,
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and I'm happy to be here. That's great. And I'm so glad to see you.
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This always to me is great when I, you know, like I said, you're a personal
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friend of mine from way back in the day.
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It's, it's so nice that we get to keep up, you know, after all this time.
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And it's just amazing. Even after all this time, the memories that we shared
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a great deal of them evolve around that house that you were in,
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where you grew up back in the Bronx, you know, the Bronx.
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Yeah. And people have all these images of the Bronx, and unless you live there, you have no idea.
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But when we talk, like, the Bronx has hauntings. When you say Bronx, I'm like hot dog cart.
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Immediately, immediately hot dog cart. Yeah.
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And I have not yet heard of a haunted hot dog cart yet, but maybe.
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I'm going to Google that later. Yeah.
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So, Anne, welcome to the show. And I want you to tell us a little bit about
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your blog. Just give us a little background where we find this blog and your
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Facebook pages, because I want people to follow you.
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Oh, sure. So anyway, the blog is something I kind of do like in the past when I have past extra time.
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It's called basically hauntedandwaiting.blog, simple address.
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And in that blog, I have little stories and they're true stories.
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So nothing, none of this is fabricated. I'm not even exaggerating.
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The hauntings that I have experienced, most of which were from my house.
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And that section is called My Bronx Haunting.
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So even I think if you search either hauntedandwaiting.blog or My Bronx Haunting, you'll get that.
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And The Bronx Haunting basically is going to give little chapters about My Bronx Haunting.
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So with Gary, actually, now that you reminded me of that one scenario,
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I should actually put a chapter in there about that.
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Because as I was telling Gary, I remember but for some reason i replaced him
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with another friend but it's okay i'm replaceable not my heart.
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Yeah well if we like i said even before i met you and your brother i i had a
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good friend that was a mutual friend chris and he used to tell me these stories
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and i never believed him and And I never really went over to house,
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but I mean, this is a little too soon.
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So I still want to interview you before we get into the story.
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Because of course, the first time I go to your house is probably the last time
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I went there. I was going to say, I feel like you've only been once.
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That's common, by the way.
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That happens a lot. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
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And it was, listen, it was a nice little place. You know, this is the Bronx. It was nice.
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You have a fantastic family and all. I felt welcome.
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But as I left, I didn't feel welcome back there. And it had nothing to do with
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horror or family. The spirits were like, do not come back.
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Yeah. I mean, but there's a reason behind that and we'll get into that story.
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But before that, you grew up there and my story is just my experience,
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but obviously you have so much more to that.
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And, you know, when did it first start for you? Like, was it as soon as you moved in there?
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So, yeah. So I would say it's kind of fuzzy.
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I would say it started, I moved in when I was about seven or eight and I think
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the full full-fledged conquering, which you would call it, probably happened
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when I was about nine or 10.
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Yeah. And it happened after we knocked down a wall in the basement.
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And that's when it started. And I get into that in my blog.
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So, you know, you see these things sometimes on TV shows where they say,
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you know, everything was fine until we brought in this piece of jewelry or we,
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you know, found this shoe in the backyard.
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And actually, I have to say, in all my experiences, that's been 100% true.
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It's almost like they're at bay until you break into their realm.
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And I think that's what happened.
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We had a wall in the basement. We knocked it down, my friends and I.
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And then it was like we unleashed whatever it was. And so around nine years
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old, I would say nine or 10.
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Now, there's so many different hauntings, different types of hauntings,
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residual hauntings and all.
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What you've experienced, I mean, you felt and seen physical presences. Is that correct?
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Yes. and also these presences
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as well i mean they were able to manipulate objects
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as well yes okay so
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yeah you've had like probably the real high level hauntings where you know it's
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not just yeah it's not just like evps or anything but you've looked and have
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you actually experienced as well like like the physical touch of things like
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where you've been touched or felt somebody actually touching you?
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Yes, but just one time. And that happened shortly after the wall.
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So yeah, and I wrote about it in my blog. It was one of the most frightening
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things to know that you're awake, even though people will tell you you're dreaming or you must have.
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I know I was awake. You know when you're awake. Yeah, you definitely know when you're awake.
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Yeah. And so it was one night I was in my bedroom.
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And for whatever reason, the sheet was falling off off of me.
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It felt like it was just falling off the side of the bed and I just kept tugging
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it to pull it back over me.
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And then at that moment, I was half asleep, half awake. I could admit that,
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but then I got annoyed and I was fully up because I was like,
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okay, whatever's happening here.
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So I tugged at it and then it tugged really fast and it just fell,
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but it felt like somebody pulled it.
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And then I felt a hand literally come over my head and onto my face,
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not grab me really tight, not in a scary
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way other than that it shouldn't have been there if that makes sense it
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was definitely a band i screamed like
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terrified i ran into my mother's room she
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was down a fall and then around the corner and i
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told her what you know it's like i need and she was just didn't want to hear
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it get back to your room and i don't know if you remember my mom when my mom
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was a she was you know not warm and fuzzy type right so when she said no it
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was no and i had to go back into my room and it was the most horrifying night,
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I think to this day that I've ever had.
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Wow. You're like, I did not sleep another peep.
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Yeah, it was horrible. Like, and it was just that one time it's never happened
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to me again. And I'm in my fifties. So never anything close to that.
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But that was, I would say like one of the starts of it. Yeah. Yeah.
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And I know you've probably done your research on that home.
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And I don't want you to like reveal too much because I want people to tune in
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and, you know, read your blogs and, you know, hopefully a book gets published. I hope it does.
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And I know, I know in my heart, you can do it, but did you find anything out
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a background wise in that home?
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You know, it sounds weird, but when I finally got married and I moved out,
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this was before the era where you could just get online and look things up.
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So to be honest with you, I never did research the house. I should.
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But the story that I came up with in my head was just from what I knew from
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the neighbors that knew the gentleman that lived in my house before I did and some of his stories.
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And his wife did go missing, that I know.
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And so I shouldn't use the word missing. The stories of why she wasn't there
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were different depending on who you spoke to on the street.
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Right. So interesting. And that's, you know, when we talk about that,
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too, it's just I know we always mention about the Bronx.
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It's unless you actually grew up there because a lot of people think it's cold
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hearted and nobody talks.
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But then, especially in those neighborhoods, like you grew up in the Italian
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neighborhoods and all very close knit.
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And a lot of people were very close.
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They knew everybody. body and they took so yeah if people from the outside don't
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really realize that or understand that and then when you throw in the history
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of new york the bronx i mean there's more.
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There than probably anywhere else you know as far as the way it was built in
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the people's backs it was built on and all which before we even go into your
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haunting you also do you do a lot of of exploring as well.
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And a lot of your writing and all too, and outdoors, my favorite,
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of course, you know, being outdoors,
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you know, there's a lot of paranormal activity outside of the four walls out
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in, you know, the real world or out in the forest or wherever you may be.
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And I'm sure you've got tons of stories about that as well.
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Yeah. And I think that's what's actually sparking the book that I'm writing
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is more about things that I've seen when I've hiked as opposed to things that
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happened to me in the house.
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The house was the interest in this area, right?
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But for people that live, especially in this part of the country,
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in the Northeast, there's a lot of history.
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There's a lot. It could literally be right in the corner of your street and
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you wouldn't even know it.
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And so when I hike, Like I tend to, it's not really urban exploring because
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urban exploring is more like in the city, but it's kind of like urban exploring for the woods.
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So I love to find like the footprint of what used to be like a house,
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you know, in the middle of the woods.
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I find cemeteries that are, it's just the weirdest thing. They're just there, forgotten.
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And there's a ton in where we live going back to pre-civil war.
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So we have a lot of history here. And if you think about it,
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a lot of people died, probably been buried in the woods. We don't even know it.
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Maybe died in a nefarious way. Right. Right. And you got perfect makings for
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a totally haunted area of the country.
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Right. Yes. So. And as you know, too, because I share that same,
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you know, enjoyment of exploration.
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And I've done the same thing. Like I came across cities like abandoned cities.
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No one would know they're just hidden in plain sight and even though it's just
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material stuff that's left over when you look at the big picture those were
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families they owned the homes there they owned everything and it's,
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it's still there but you still feel that
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presence of that you know it's almost like
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you're trespassing on their property as if
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they were still alive even though this these places were 50 60 years or more
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older so i get it and i probably had like a couple of paranormal experiences
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myself when it came to the woods
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like as far as cryptids i've i definitely know i've I've heard, felt,
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smelled a presence, but never seen it.
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But yeah, I know something was there. And I know I've used this before,
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just beginning of this month and all cryptids and all.
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There are some spectrums of light as well as some sounds that humans are just
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unaware of. We just don't have the ability to see or hear as where some animals do.
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So just how much are we missing that's probably right in front of our eyes?
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Exactly. So not only just cryptids outdoors, but ghosts themselves,
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spirits or whatever you may call them.
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It's the same thing. They are on a different wavelength than what we can either
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see or hear, but they might have the ability to cross over every now and then.
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And you experienced it. I know I've experienced it. hannah
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here's the only one who probably has not experienced anything really too
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ghost wise i really have not experienced
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anything ghost wise other than
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like people that i've like known that
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like have passed away oh okay yeah i'm
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yeah unfortunately i don't know i and
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i'm really not a closed off for person i've like
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i when i go into like an antique store if i i'm
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walking and like if i'm walking by like an object that has bad
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energy or maybe like a bad spirit connected to
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it i just get this really eerie like go away
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vibe and then my son he we
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had taken him antiquing and he looked
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at me he said no no no when we went
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past this one like old doll but other than
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that like I've never had any type of experience and it's
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it's just I guess I'm just not one of the I guess
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I don't want to say lucky but I guess I'm not one of the lucky ones well I would
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think if you're feeling something when you're walking by something that you
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actually are experiencing a haunting yeah not in the way of seeing it maybe
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yes yeah I mean I'm hunting haunting. Yeah.
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Like I, and then like when you're like, when I say like, I've had experiences
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with like a loved one that's passed away, I don't really consider that like
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a haunting, you know, I feel like that's like more of like a blessing for me.
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Like, yeah, you know what I mean? Like, I've liked, like when my best friend passed away, I like.
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I would always like when I would talk about him or just like kind of like get
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like the vibe that he was just hanging around, lingering around.
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I would always get this like really like warm or cold touch and like the hair
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raising on the back of my neck.
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And like I'd be like, oh, it's such a blessing because like I knew he was like
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hanging around like he knew I was talking about him.
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So I'm like, I consider that a ghost, though. Yeah, but like,
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I guess I wouldn't. You know what I mean?
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Like, I don't know. I guess I didn't see.
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It's like I said, I wouldn't really consider it like a – I mean,
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I guess it's a paranormal experience for me, but I wouldn't consider it like
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a haunting because it was more of like a blessing to me.
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Like, oh, like his spirit.
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I don't know. So I'm going to take that a bit further. And I think I would agree
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with you because when you think of a haunting, you think of the trying to communicate
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in a scary way or a negative way.
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But I think a ghost is a ghost and I think a spirit is a ghost and I'm going to differ with you.
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And I think that when you felt your friends, wherever he is,
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where he's still around, okay, he's just not in our realm. Yeah.
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When you're sensing him, I honestly think he's there. And I think he's a ghost
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and he's letting himself known to you in that way.
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I have spoken actually like
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when another podcast we were on I saw him
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once I but it was not when
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I was like conscious I was
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I had an emergency c-section with my son and I
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was on the table in and out of consciousness I could
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not open my eyes but like what made me
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come like out of like being unconscious because
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I thought I didn't make it like I just thought I was dead I was going to heaven
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like I was seeing the light I actually saw
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him so that's the only time I saw him but my
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husband was like you were knocked out so I
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don't everyone like you I had
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mentioned it earlier like oh like I don't know this might have been before the
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podcast started so my bad everyone but like how like people are like oh you're
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exaggerating or something like that you're not making it up it's just like I
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had someone say like oh your brain was just telling you like what you wanted
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to hear. I was like, no, this just happened to me.
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Well, you know, you know. Yeah. And I think it's upsetting, you know, like,
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that people will say something like that yeah you know what you should just
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keep their mouth shut because when
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you know you know so that sounds very similar to like an nde to me okay.
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Not that you were but that's what that sounds like to
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me yeah okay yeah well
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it's nice to definitely get like a different set of like eyes and like
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opinion on it definitely yeah because i
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mean cool at least i don't feel like closed off now you know
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like these spirits don't want to to mess with me nope yeah you're
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right too maria and that's what i was going to lean to it's
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like i think it depends on your definition of a
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haunting you know it's yeah people relate
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haunting with the scary and all but any type of experience it's it's a paranormal
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experience it's just something that cannot be explained but you felt it you
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know it's real others may not think so but you have it and And like I always
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say, it's a story you're telling.
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You're telling the story straight from your heart.
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If you want to believe it, believe it. But if you don't, you don't.
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And yeah, I think you've had a paranormal experience and you've witnessed a ghost. Yeah.
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And I know Maria witnessed ghosts. I know I witnessed ghosts in the same place.
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And I really want to get into this now because, yeah, so Maria's right.
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Basically because of her exploration and all this outdoors and all the history
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and history especially brings a lot of this paranormal activity just because
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of, you know, the events that took place, but.
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When you grow up in this house so i really feel we need to talk about this story
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you and i and i think hannah could jump in and you know ask us questions as
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we try to remember because we're old let's not,
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forget you and i when we first met we were back in high school yeah like 40
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years ago yeah yeah so our memories are not always as sharp as they were so
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it's only certain details i think you You guys both have better memory than me, to be honest.
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I don't know about that. I don't know about that. Yeah.
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But what's amazing, what we do remember is because this was an actual experience.
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And to me, at that time, this is probably what led me to believe.
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Because back then, I was big, really big into the UFOs.
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So I believed UFOs a lot. But ghosts were just another level.
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And I don't think I really believed until I was in your house.
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And so, so let's take, let's take this back. All right. It was myself.
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You were there. Chris was there. And if I'm not mistaken, your brother was there.
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And then, then there was probably one other person.
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I can't remember whom, but so I would say that's, that was the gist of it.
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Now I know your mom was home and this took place in the basement.
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All of us dummies decided to play with a Ouija board in this house after hearing
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the stories and listen if you brought the Ouija board that's a good question
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I don't know Maria did you do you,
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So what happened was, and I have to preface this for my sister-in-law,
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who was Irish from the boat, off the boat, terrified of Ouija boards,
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believed in ghosts, banshees, the whole thing, right?
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And we had to hide the Ouija board from her because she swore if we ever brought
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one in the house, she was going to lick us.
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She was a lot older than me. She was about 15 years older than me.
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So I don't even know where it came from. I think one of my friends brought it
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over and we had it hidden in the basement from my sister-in-law because we were definitely afraid.
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This was like macabre. We're not allowed to do this. You know,
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she was warning us. We had it hidden in the basement. I don't remember who.
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And we also had a blackboard. Do you remember the it was a blackboard down there?
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Yes. So which things you said we would find writing on the blackboard. Stop. I'm done.
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I don't want to ever be in that basement.
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The basement's been fixed by the way so it's finished it's a finished basement
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now it has a bathroom it doesn't look like that anymore wow really yeah it was
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fixed like like two years ago yeah but anyway so we pulled it out i do remember
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that but we used to pull it out several times when we knew we wouldn't get caught
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using it right so and the basement was unfinished,
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you know mortar walls the typical scary like you couldn't make it any scarier
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as if if i were going going to design it. My old house basement. Okay.
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It was just a creepy basement. Yeah. So I don't remember that.
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We used it a couple of times. So Gary, I think we pulled it out, right?
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And we started moving the planchette.
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Yep. Maybe trying to contact Elvis. I don't know what we were doing,
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but we were like, you know.
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And then Gary, you said you remember the-
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ruler yeah well i i would
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really like to get into because this is my memories we were
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asking the board all so all the you know typical questions you know is there
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another presence here and all blah blah blah we would hear things and all but
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we're with our goofy friends in a goofy time and age so we're all thinking it's
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them and of course a couple pranks just we did catch people throwing something,
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you know, but nothing was really happening paranormal, but we did,
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which was the worst thing you can do is we got very angry and we started demanding
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that it's something. Yeah.
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So that's what started a lot of it.
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So the sounds got worse that were unexplainable, but we, you know,
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again, it was just sounds at that point until the ruler incident.
25:34
Yeah, I distinctively remember hearing something hit the floor.
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And so if you would think a wooden ruler on a concrete floor is exactly what it sounded like.
25:44
And I'm pretty sure I'm almost 100% sure it was your brother that turned around and picked up the ruler.
25:52
And he turned and now your brother's pretty pale and complexion as is.
25:56
So he went much more, you know, like probably four more shades of white.
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He ran upstairs yeah yeah
26:04
it turns out at least a story i
26:07
heard and now again this is your mom and again
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not a woman you would be you know messing with joking with or anything like
26:14
that apparently she became freaked out because she was upstairs doing something
26:20
like knitting or some sort of sewing and she said she was looking for the ruler
26:24
because she placed it on the floor Right. That, that I could, yeah.
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Yeah. That's the kind, that's the kind of stuff that would happen.
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So it would be almost like poltergeist activity.
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Cause that's more like, I don't necessarily do, but I don't remember that.
26:38
I do remember the ruler flying across. I do remember my brother running upstairs.
26:42
And what freaked me out about that was my brother was always on the, I have two brothers.
26:49
My younger brother was always on the fence.
26:51
Is this really happening or is this not happening? Is this really happening
26:54
or is this not happening? So he was not a hundred percent a believer.
26:58
So when something happened that he could not explain, and I write about that
27:02
and those were moments where he would be freaked out, that would freak me out
27:05
more because I believed in everything, right?
27:08
So I'm not the best character of judgment for, for that house.
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I believed in everything.
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Even when there was an explanation, I always went towards more paranormal.
27:16
So when he believed something, it was almost a solidified belief.
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It for me if that makes sense yeah definitely because
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you're getting more of a confirmation from somebody who was on
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the fence about it yeah and i do remember from being scared
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and i do remember the hole on the ouija board afterwards the
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burn yes yeah that i remember and yeah hannah this and i'm so glad you mentioned
27:39
that and that you remember that it because you sometimes you do you have these
27:45
memories and you're thinking well was this just my imagination after all these
27:48
years And maybe in my head, I bought,
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you remember it now, Hannah,
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I'm going to tell you this and we'll share the story together with Ann.
27:58
We were getting angry. Now you had mentioned you guys tore down that wall and,
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and, and if you, there was a hole in there, right? Like kind of like a tunnel almost.
28:09
Yeah. Like a, like a middle. Yeah. So we found out later on that it was most
28:13
likely a coal shutout, most likely, but it doesn't lead to anything.
28:18
Thing so that's why i don't understand how that could have been a coal shaft right
28:21
because it goes under the house it doesn't go
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like up to the street or it doesn't go anywhere and it
28:27
was just a tunnel i want to say maybe like four
28:29
feet it wasn't even a tunnel it's like a four foot it was
28:33
the weird we don't even know what was but there was boxes in there there
28:36
was it was a small room uh before
28:40
so think of a room with a tunnel toward in
28:43
the back that's what it was and there was wooden panels covering
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that portion of the basement and my neighbor
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do you remember i can't say her name because her name was really
28:52
odd but i had a neighbor you probably remember her
28:55
from school but i can't use her name because her name was really it would stand
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out and this is kind of like i don't want her to go into this but anyway the
29:04
houses were railroad flats so they're all identical every house was identical
29:09
to the house before and i was in her her basement and I was like at the back and I'm like,
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why is your basement like longer than mine?
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She's like, I don't know. And then my other neighbor, we were in her basement
29:20
and I was like, yeah, why is your basement like, why was my basement shorter than their basements?
29:25
And it was this neighbor when we were about 10, we went into my basement where
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her wall would continue to go.
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And there were, there was a paneled wall. So it was just wooden slats like that.
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And she put her hands in and she's like, oh, look, it just comes up and there's
29:42
a room in there. And so that's what happened.
29:45
And they took it down. My family took it down.
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And there was like just a space there and there were boxes. And the gentleman
29:51
that had, it was an older man who had lived there.
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He was in his 90s when we took the house from him. He was going to a home apparently.
29:58
And there were boxes in there.
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Pictures from the Holocaust, believe it or not. Pictures of his family.
30:03
He was either a Hasidic Jew or Orthodox Jew. So a lot of pictures of like Jewish
30:08
people and like that religious wear very old, like old pictures.
30:12
There was a couple of cases. It was just very bizarre, but nothing.
30:16
It was just junk. It wasn't like a body back there. It was just junk.
30:20
But it was right after that, then things started happening.
30:24
Happening and it was it was it
30:26
was not a week that went by where something didn't
30:30
scare the bejesus out of you so it was
30:34
it was tough it was tough on the kids yeah yeah
30:37
and everybody knew it so right and
30:42
that's yeah and that's the amazing thing like when you're
30:45
describing that room because i remember and there's a picture of
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the basement on your blog so you'll understand
30:52
what we're talking about so what you're looking at on in that
30:54
picture is the basement itself and then we played with the ouija
30:57
board right there yeah and then in the left
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hand side of that picture there's in separate room and
31:04
that's where this tunnel was and that had a door on
31:07
it did it not yes it did okay perfect because
31:10
that's the setup for this because this was when you
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turn talked about that hole being burned and again all
31:17
these years i was like even i doubted myself
31:20
with that because not only with the ruler which was paranormal enough but we
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gotten very angry at the board and we kept doing it over and over again show
31:33
us up yeah we all got up because we heard something in that room.
31:39
I don't know, Anne, I don't know if you were in the room with us when we all,
31:45
because we heard something in there, we all got up and we went inside the room,
31:49
the door closed behind us. Well, that happened all the time.
31:55
That happened all the time.
31:58
It was just all the time. And, you know, it's funny because when I got on Facebook,
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somebody had said something about my house.
32:06
And then all these people that knew me when I was a kid, I remember her house. Remember?
32:10
Like, it was like just this thing of all life.
32:13
They were all in their 40s and 50s now. But, like, everybody was,
32:15
remember when this happened? And I was like, oh, my gosh. Like,
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I lived in the haunted house on the street.
32:20
It never occurred to me until now.
32:23
How crazy it actually was and how it affected a lot of kids.
32:26
I had kids that wouldn't come into the house.
32:29
But Terrence is an example, terrified. By the way, he was a cop. He became a sergeant.
32:35
No kidding. Terrified. He would not come into my house unless there was a lot of people in there.
32:41
It was very bizarre because, do you know radiator covers?
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The old-fashioned, if you have the steam radiator.
32:49
I had that at my old house, yeah. Okay. Okay, so you know how like you keep
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a wooden cover on so you don't actually get burned? Yeah.
32:55
For some reason, Terrence, whenever he went into my house and it only happened
33:01
with him, no one else, the radiator covers would shake violently.
33:07
Like violently. He would be in the house for five, not even, no, two minutes.
33:12
And they would start doing that. And he would dart out. He would dart and it only happened to him.
33:17
And then, you know, like my older brother, I would say, well,
33:19
why is that happening? Oh, well, you know, remember where the train was,
33:22
Gary, like two streets from it's like all the vibration from the train is really
33:26
the vibration from the train is making the radiator covers in several rooms.
33:32
Bang. And just when this kid comes in. Yeah, no, I, my house,
33:37
I lived even closer to the trains and those trains came by every and nothing shook.
33:43
So that's, you paint a different picture because telling the stories I was in there once.
33:49
Once you grew up there, I can't imagine being in there now knowing,
33:55
you know, because, again, I'm sharing this story with you and you're confirming
33:59
things that even I couldn't fathom.
34:02
So that door closed behind us and I thought somebody was messing around,
34:06
but I was the last one in and I felt that door close.
34:08
I remember and this is just me in
34:12
that hole that tunnel whatever you want to call
34:15
it I remember seeing a light almost like a candle but it wasn't yeah I seen
34:23
it so that panic so we all ran out and when we ran out Hannah this is the worst
34:29
I was the first one to come across it and it freaked me out,
34:33
the ouija board was leaning up against a
34:36
cardboard box okay and as i said okay well no big deal we all jumped up and
34:42
somebody might have kicked it so when i picked it up there was a hole like a
34:47
pin hole yeah like a burn like almost like a small cigarette hole right yep
34:52
right through dead center.
34:55
And even more confirmation to that cardboard box was leaning up had a burn hole
35:00
behind it yeah yeah And that was it.
35:03
Nobody, nobody was in the room because we were all in the room with the door shut behind us.
35:07
So nobody, and to be that precise, no one could stand there and light something
35:12
and burn it back quickly.
35:14
I mean, I guess it's possible, but there was nobody in there. No way. And that was it.
35:18
I ran out. That was the last time I was ever in your place.
35:24
And all these years, I just thought it was my imagination.
35:28
But now when I talk to you and you can confirm this, I say, that's crazy.
35:33
And that was just me for whatever amount of hours we were in there.
35:36
You grew up there. You live there. Yeah.
35:40
I got to see if I can find those Facebook. Claude, do you remember Claude?
35:44
Yes. Yes, I do. He put something there. Then there was John.
35:49
We had another friend, John, who lived on the next street over.
35:52
He put something, all these experiences people had had.
35:55
And it was like, oh my gosh, this is like pretty pathetic. This is where I lived.
36:02
Yeah, it was on. It was on. But you know what, Gary? This is what I never understood.
36:09
When my sister-in-law and my brother lived in the apartment upstairs,
36:13
and they were there for about six years, when they moved, everything stopped. Yes.
36:21
Wow and i have no idea why like
36:25
everything stopped it was quiet and my sister-in-law she
36:28
was a big believer that there was something in that house she was positive about
36:31
it but once she left everything stopped and my mom still owns that house so
36:36
we're talking more than 30 years nothing so did your sister-in-law always live
36:42
there like from when it started yes so maybe Maybe she brought it.
36:48
Right. That's been one of the things that I've wondered about.
36:51
And my suspicion about the house being this older gentleman that owned the house
36:57
whose wife went missing and was having an affair with the neighbor, the man.
37:01
There was like a story there that I was hearing from all these people in the
37:04
neighborhood as kids were trying to figure out, oh, he must have killed his
37:08
wife. She's in the basement. She's probably in that room.
37:10
We never found anything like that.
37:13
I was convinced that this had something to do with that, right? This is her.
37:18
Because I don't know if you read the story, Gary, about the perfume bottles. Yes, I did.
37:22
Okay. So the perfume bottles were hers. Yeah.
37:25
And she wanted us to know with these perfume bottles. I don't want to say if
37:28
anybody wants to read it, go to my blog. Okay.
37:32
Hauntedandwaiting.blog. But the perfume bottles to me were kind of like,
37:36
okay, this has got to be her.
37:38
She's letting us know. No, but when I saw, you had asked me if I'd ever seen anything.
37:43
Oh, no, you asked me if I'd ever felt anything to that one time.
37:46
If I had ever seen anything, the first time that I actually saw an apparition
37:50
and that house, only one time in that house.
37:53
I've seen since, but in that house one time, and it was shortly after the wall
37:56
came down, and I saw a man in the middle of the night.
38:01
I heard, I didn't hear, but I kind of sensed somebody was in the other room.
38:04
It was the middle of the night. I got up to pee.
38:06
And the way it was was my room is in the corner there was
38:09
this little hallway where the bathroom was off the hallway and then the
38:12
dining room slash living room was after the
38:14
hall and so when I went to the bathroom I kind of took a peek
38:17
into the into the other room because I was like it just feels
38:20
like somebody's there and I was thinking I was going to find my mother like
38:24
looking for glasses or something in the middle of the night or doing something
38:28
and this mother effing guy was was standing in that room and he was on the other
38:34
side of the room staring at me and he looked at,
38:39
Just like, not just like you, but 3D. He did not look. He wasn't see-through.
38:44
He had a normal face. He was up floating.
38:48
He looked three-dimensional and he was just staring at me.
38:52
And he looked just shocked to see me as I was to see him.
38:57
We were like just shocked looking at each other.
39:00
Weirdest freaking thing. Did you like turn away and then he was gone or you
39:04
just were like? Like, so I was just kind of staring at him, not knowing what was going on.
39:11
And then part of me was like, maybe I should go see my mom.
39:14
But then I knew my mom was going to get mad at me because here we are talking
39:18
about ghosts and whatever for, so like, she's going to beat that enough for
39:21
nothing. But this was the day where you could hit your kid.
39:22
And everybody was getting hit, like, you know, whatever in the Bronx.
39:30
So like, everybody was getting hit. it, I was sure I was going to get a beating
39:32
of my life, which back in the day was how it was done. Not that I was abused by any means.
39:39
So I went back to my room and I closed the door. I did have a lock.
39:42
So I locked it and I just kind of laid in the bed terrified because I couldn't
39:49
understand what's going on.
39:50
I said to myself, this isn't a ghost because he's 3D.
39:52
So then I'm thinking maybe this is someone my mother knows.
39:56
I'm thinking it's a person. Some part of me was was thinking maybe somebody broke into the house.
40:01
So I remember thinking that like, maybe somebody broke into my house.
40:04
Maybe if I'm quiet, he'll take what he needs to take and leave.
40:07
But then in the morning, you know, I went and I had told my mother and sure
40:11
enough, it was pissed as hell that I had said it.
40:15
She was like, plus I had said it when we had company there.
40:18
And then it made it seem like, you know, my mom had a gentleman call her in
40:22
the middle of the night because my father had passed away.
40:25
And so she was furious with me, but that was it.
40:28
Yeah. All I could tell you, Hannah, is that we were staring at each other and his look was like,
40:35
what the hell is she doing here? And my look was like, what the hell is he?
40:38
It was like a just mutual confusion is what it was.
40:42
Stop seeing that. And then if I was you, I'd be like checking the calendar.
40:45
I'm like, is this Santa like Easter bunny? Like who are you?
40:49
No, no. I wonder.
40:53
Yeah. Cause I was going to say like, you had that, like, you know,
40:57
you were under the assumption, like maybe it's the woman, you know,
40:59
maybe he murdered his wife, you know, but then your your sister-in-law come,
41:04
you know, it, everything stopped.
41:05
And I'm like, well, what if it's like one of her like ancestors?
41:08
Cause I know you said she was Irish, right? Yeah. Yeah.
41:14
So I'm like, what if it was like someone that like just latched onto her or
41:18
like something or like her luggage or something, and then just made your house
41:23
it's home, you know, cause I've heard of stories like that. I've read of stories like that.
41:28
That's why you're like, her house, the
41:31
house that they moved moved to was haunted see this
41:35
is what i'm saying like because that's why you're gonna be i'm
41:38
gonna share it with you i have a picture where she's a woman
41:41
is in the window if i share this picture with you're gonna be
41:44
freaked out it's not even a pareidolia she's so clearly
41:47
in the window yeah but that was
41:50
her house and that happened i want to
41:53
say maybe four years after she had moved out of our house so i don't know i
41:58
couldn't tell you this this guy that i saw was not dressed he wasn't dressed
42:03
like ancient so i wouldn't say it wasn't like the 1800s or anything like that
42:06
but he didn't look like he was from the 80s or so right you know maybe the.
42:13
50s i don't know like he just his clothes
42:16
were wrong i guess you could say yeah you know what i
42:19
like about that though is like the way you described it like you were
42:22
both kind of perplexed like oh wow that's literally
42:26
like just like he was almost shocked yeah
42:29
that you could see him yeah it was like a glitch
42:32
you know like oh wow you both broke a time barrier
42:36
and you were both sitting in that same time together that yeah i find that more
42:42
fascinating sometimes i pick out little things like that that make it fascinating
42:47
beyond being just frightened because it is i mean most people are going to be
42:52
frightened at that but i'll be like it's it was a breakdown in time,
42:56
that you you both existed yeah it was very weird and it's like again was it
43:01
a haunting i mean he wasn't scaring me other than you know yeah i love it in
43:08
blood or you know yeah fire.
43:13
Yeah, I love the stories. I love the story. And listen to everybody listening to this.
43:19
Ann Lund, I'm going to have all the links again in the synopsis.
43:24
Follow her on Facebook, hauntedandwaiting.blog. She has a Haunted and Waiting
43:30
Facebook group too. Oh, yeah, I do.
43:34
Yeah, I want people. I post a lot of like the pictures when I go hiking,
43:38
some of the weird things like the grave or that lean-to that I just found.
43:42
I had a car in it. Yes, yes.
43:43
It's just like, why would you put a car in a lean-to? It was so weird.
43:48
It was just like in there.
43:51
I am still jealous at all the fines you do when you go.
43:55
I mean, I found some really wild stuff, but you found some amazing things.
43:59
And I have to go on a hike with you one day. I have to.
44:03
But I'm bringing a film crew with me for sure because I know I'm going to see good stuff.
44:08
But, Anne, I want to thank you so much for coming on the show.
44:12
So I want all of these stories to be read.
44:16
I want you to write that book. I want a copy. I want you to be famous.
44:22
I mean- He wants the first sign. Yes, I want the first signed copy. Of course I do.
44:27
But honestly, you're a treasure to talk to because your experiences,
44:34
the way you present them, it's fascinating to me.
44:37
And I think you've got such a talent for all this. that's why I know I want
44:42
you to write that book. I just know it. I feel that in my heart.
44:45
I want you to, you know, write it, get your name out there for sure.
44:49
And I'm going to make sure everybody follows and listens to this story because
44:53
yeah, she's got it broken down.
44:55
And we're not going to, yeah, I was going to say, we're not going to make her
44:57
share all her paranormal stories on the pod.
45:01
We're going to push you guys to go check out her blog and because she has amazing ones on there.
45:07
She just gave you a little taste in this episode that's for
45:10
sure but again and i thank you so much for
45:13
coming on the eye opener society i have
45:16
a feeling yeah i have a feeling this is not going to be the only you know time
45:19
you come on i'm sure we'll have you on again but yeah your stories are fascinating
45:24
i'm so happy to have met you back in high school i'm so happy to have been a
45:29
part of that you know because you talk about like it was a neighborhood thing
45:33
and it was nice to be part of that.
45:35
It really was in a strange way, you know, but you've always been a good friend
45:41
and I really appreciate it.
45:44
Thank you. Well, thank you for having me. I've, I've.
45:47
It's fun to have a safe place to talk where people don't think you're crazy.
45:50
Cause I don't think it's all crazy, but, uh, thank you again for having me and
45:54
allowing me to share a little bit of what went on in that house.
45:59
Absolutely. So everybody, again, that was Anne Lund.
46:02
You're going to go check her out. I want you to check her out.
46:06
I'm going to give you all the links.
46:08
Hannah and I are wrapping up now with this because Anne closed us out for the
46:13
month of February and we're so happy for that. We really are.
46:17
I think we've touched on the paranormal, the ghosts, and now Hannah and I,
46:22
we're going to have to dig up some other themes.
46:24
And I know Hannah has got two shows planned for you guys for March.
46:29
So be ready. Yeah, for sure.
46:32
You're not letting us know yet though, right? That's right.
46:37
Surprise. I'll let you know off the air. Okay. Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah.
46:43
But yeah, we do have some great things planned out and we hope you join us for
46:48
that. We thank everybody for listening.
46:50
We thank you all for tuning in. Again, you are the greatest audience,
46:54
no matter how many of you there are out there. Hannah and I,
46:58
we definitely enjoy you for tuning into the Eye Opener Society.
47:01
And don't forget to check out our webpage, eyeopenersociety.podium.co.
47:06
You can find everything there.
47:08
I'm going to make sure I put some of Anne Lunn's links on the website too.
47:12
For those of you who don't want to go in the synopsis, visit the website and
47:17
I'll have all the links there too as well.
47:19
Everybody, we appreciate it. Hannah and I are going to say goodbye for right
47:22
now. See you everyone. Take care.