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Do I Look Like I Fly Economy · I Think Less of You Podcast

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SPEAKER_00: Do you actually wait for airlines to have sales on bags?
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SPEAKER_00: Is this a thing that people do?
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SPEAKER_00: This, I am ridiculously out of touch.
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SPEAKER_00: I fly a lot.
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SPEAKER_00: I haven't had to pay for bags.
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SPEAKER_02: I rarely fly these days.
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SPEAKER_02: I haven't flown since COVID.
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SPEAKER_02: So, you know, it's been five years.
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SPEAKER_00: You haven't flown since COVID?
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SPEAKER_00: No.
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SPEAKER_00: No.
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SPEAKER_02: No.
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We have – my wife and my daughters and I have been doing a –
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our big travel for the
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most part is we're trying to see all 50 state capitals before
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the girls go off to college.
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SPEAKER_02: That is our plan.
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SPEAKER_02: But so far, we've stuck to the ones that are within driving distance.
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SPEAKER_02: So we routed around.
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SPEAKER_02: The furthest we went – we went out and did a bunch of New England states.
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SPEAKER_02: But we drove because it's not that bad to drive into New England.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Eventually,
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SPEAKER_02: we are going to have to be jumping to flying,
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SPEAKER_02: obviously,
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SPEAKER_02: because driving is only reasonable to a certain extent.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
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SPEAKER_00: but if you drove,
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SPEAKER_00: say,
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SPEAKER_00: you drove to where I live,
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SPEAKER_00: you'd hit a bunch of state capitals on the way.
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Yes,
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but it's also like,
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you know,
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a day and a half drive if I just drove straight.
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SPEAKER_02: So if you're taking like a week, you're not just driving straight.
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So it's like,
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you know,
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three days there and three days back stopping along the way.
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It's going to be,
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you know,
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you're barely going to see anything actually at the destination.
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SPEAKER_00: We made it tough in the West,
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SPEAKER_00: too,
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because you have to drive a really far way between states like
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just to get to.
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SPEAKER_00: Because they're huge.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Just to get across Colorado is like,
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SPEAKER_00: well,
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SPEAKER_00: depending on where you're going,
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SPEAKER_00: could be seven hours.
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SPEAKER_02: I mean,
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SPEAKER_02: in fairness,
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SPEAKER_02: I know the Western states like to brag about that,
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SPEAKER_02: but like Pennsylvania for it.
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SPEAKER_00: No, but like we are really big.
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SPEAKER_02: I know.
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SPEAKER_02: So Pennsylvania driving east-west through Pennsylvania, same time.
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SPEAKER_02: Pennsylvania is a massively wide state.
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SPEAKER_00: Actually, it's longer because they have this horrible toll on them.
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SPEAKER_02: Everywhere.
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SPEAKER_02: In Pennsylvania.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm so not an East Coast person.
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SPEAKER_02: The PA Turnpike isn't worth it, in my opinion.
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SPEAKER_02: Generally, there are ways that add maybe an hour to your trip.
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You can take I-80 or I can't remember what the southbound...
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There is a southerly route that...
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uh dips down into maryland and west virginia where you don't
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have to pay um they
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only add like an hour maybe an hour and a half and they save
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you like 40 bucks so i
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i i was viewing as like you know i'm making 40 an hour by just
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driving just for the
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other way i did look it up and pennsylvania is 43.2 smaller
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than colorado so
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because Colorado has the north-south.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm saying east-west across Pennsylvania.
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SPEAKER_02: Believe me, I've driven that route many times.
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SPEAKER_02: It's about seven-ish hours.
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East-west across Colorado takes a lot more than seven hours if
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you do it in winter.
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SPEAKER_02: That's because you're driving up and down mountains.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Very much so.
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You kind of are in Pennsylvania,
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but they've tunneled through a bunch of them.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Also, we're going to have to work on the definition of mountain.
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SPEAKER_02: The Allegheny Mountain Range, man.
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The Allegheny Mountains were a major impediment to exploring
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the interior.
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SPEAKER_00: They are cute, docile little hills.
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SPEAKER_02: They're not.
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SPEAKER_02: They're not.
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And in fact,
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I believe I've told you before,
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they were originally taller than the Rockies.
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SPEAKER_02: They were the tallest mountains in the world.
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SPEAKER_00: I love our little chats because I get history lessons.
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SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm not at home with my husband.
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SPEAKER_00: Just like, it's just all day long.
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SPEAKER_02: People telling me I don't know history.
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SPEAKER_02: I take up the baton from Luke when he's not available.
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SPEAKER_00: In fairness, he's at home with the kids right now.
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SPEAKER_00: Good man.
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SPEAKER_02: Good mate.
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SPEAKER_02: He's probably watching something great.
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SPEAKER_02: Just having the time of his life.
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SPEAKER_00: No, Tuesday's his office.
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SPEAKER_00: He works in person, but on Tuesdays is a remote day.
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SPEAKER_02: Has he ever seen the YouTube series, the Cambrian Chronicles?
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SPEAKER_02: I don't have a clue.
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SPEAKER_02: You should ask him.
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SPEAKER_02: I watch this sometimes.
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SPEAKER_02: It annoys my wife.
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SPEAKER_02: It's this incredibly boring sounding guy.
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SPEAKER_00: You watch something boring?
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SPEAKER_02: He goes and deep dives about obscure things in British history.
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SPEAKER_02: The Lost Lake in Wales.
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SPEAKER_02: It talks about all these...
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all these historical documents that discuss this lake being
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there and now the lake isn't there.
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SPEAKER_02: What happened to the lake?
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SPEAKER_00: You should send him this because I'm not going to.
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SPEAKER_00: That sounds awful.
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SPEAKER_00: And I will have to watch it if I send it to him.
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SPEAKER_00: So I'm opting out of this experience.
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SPEAKER_00: If you send it to him, I think you can message him on Twitter.
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SPEAKER_02: He follows you.
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SPEAKER_02: My wife walked in and I'd be watching it.
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SPEAKER_02: She's like, what are you watching?
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SPEAKER_02: And I was like, what?
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SPEAKER_02: It's interesting.
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I didn't know there was a tiny little kingdom that vanished in
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the 12th century.
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SPEAKER_00: And now I know, and I know what happened to it.
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SPEAKER_00: It's great.
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I'm glad to know that that's what you're hiding from your wife
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in your browser.
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But yes,
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to answer your question earlier,
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of course I look for deals when I fly.
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SPEAKER_02: I look for deals too.
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SPEAKER_02: No, you don't.
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SPEAKER_02: You fly like business class everywhere.
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SPEAKER_02: Don't give me I look for deals.
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SPEAKER_00: You think I don't look for a deal in business?
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SPEAKER_02: No, I don't.
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SPEAKER_02: I literally don't.
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SPEAKER_02: I think you say, oh, I could write this off.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, that is true.
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SPEAKER_00: And I do write it off.
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SPEAKER_00: And that is why having a travel blog is great.
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SPEAKER_00: But if I write it off, that's still money that I don't take home.
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SPEAKER_00: When you own the company that you're writing your expenses off from,
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SPEAKER_00: you're still paying insurance.
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SPEAKER_00: You're still paying on that.
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SPEAKER_00: It's just income that I don't get.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: Which I would use to upgrade my seat to business.
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You're acting like it is absurd for me to believe that you
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wouldn't just buy whatever ticket.
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SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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SPEAKER_02: Don't talk.
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SPEAKER_02: Don't talk.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm in the middle of a sentence.
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SPEAKER_02: Shush.
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You are acting like it is absurd for me to assume that you
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wouldn't bother to shop.
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SPEAKER_02: Shortly before we started this,
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you were bragging on your roses that you specially imported
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from Columbia.
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SPEAKER_02: Just because you wanted them.
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SPEAKER_02: Now, granted, it's your birthday.
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SPEAKER_00: It is my birthday.
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I'm sure what I'm going to get for my birthday will be a
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charming little handmade
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SPEAKER_02: card for my children,
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SPEAKER_02: which I will cherish.
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And it will not be special flowers that were mail ordered from
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the grand nation of
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SPEAKER_02: Colombia because that's the only place they grow them.
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I learned very quickly that if I want something on my birthday
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to frigging order it
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SPEAKER_00: for myself,
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SPEAKER_00: because while I love my husband and like I'm very much obsessed with him,
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SPEAKER_00: the man cannot give a gift.
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SPEAKER_00: And he just like I could tattoo it on his forehead.
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SPEAKER_00: He's not going to get it.
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SPEAKER_00: So if I want something, I get it for myself.
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SPEAKER_02: A, I don't actually like cut flowers.
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Cut flowers depress me massively because I always say they're
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memento mori because
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SPEAKER_02: they're beautiful and then they just wither away and die.
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SPEAKER_02: There's nothing you can do about it within a few days.
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SPEAKER_02: And that's just sad to me.
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SPEAKER_02: It's life.
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SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
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I don't need to remind you of the inevitability of death when
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I'm staring at a
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SPEAKER_02: bunch of flowers slowly meeting their fate.
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SPEAKER_02: That's just sad.
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SPEAKER_02: That's not sad.
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SPEAKER_02: It's sad to me.
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SPEAKER_00: You've had to take in their beauty while they were here.
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SPEAKER_02: Gather your rosebuds well ye may.
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SPEAKER_00: Sorry, I'm an optimist, apparently.
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SPEAKER_02: But I don't like gift-giving things, like receiving gifts, because...
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SPEAKER_00: Oh,
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SPEAKER_00: I don't like receiving gifts,
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SPEAKER_00: but also because I don't have the best practice with my husband.
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SPEAKER_00: That's so bad.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm not trying to talk to my husband.
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SPEAKER_00: I love him, but gift giving is not one of the reasons why.
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SPEAKER_02: Once you hit a certain age,
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ideally you've come to a place in your life where if there's
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something that you
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SPEAKER_02: really need,
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SPEAKER_02: You're probably going to have bought it or buy it for yourself.
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And if there's something that you want,
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either you're going to buy it or you're not.
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If there's something that I know is stupid but I kind of want
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and I'm like,
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SPEAKER_02: oh,
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SPEAKER_02: I'm not going to buy that.
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If someone then buys it for me,
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I'll appreciate it and I'll probably use it.
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SPEAKER_02: But at the same time, I'll be like, oh, you really didn't have to.
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SPEAKER_02: I didn't need this.
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SPEAKER_02: This is going to end up cluttering.
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SPEAKER_02: I didn't need that.
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I do weird things like stay awake all night when there's Oasis
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ticket pre-sales and
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SPEAKER_00: buy my husband extravagant concert tickets.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm glad he likes Oasis.
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SPEAKER_02: Hopefully they make it to the concert.
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SPEAKER_02: I believe we discussed this.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know if we released that one or not.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: Hopefully they make it.
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SPEAKER_02: The odds aren't high.
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SPEAKER_00: If not, we'll go to Scotland and get a nice vacation.
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SPEAKER_02: It's probably going to suck.
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SPEAKER_02: Even if they make it to it, it's going to suck.
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SPEAKER_00: No.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes, because they probably still haven't been in the same room together.
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SPEAKER_02: It's not like they're practicing together.
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SPEAKER_02: It's fine.
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SPEAKER_02: I guarantee.
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SPEAKER_02: No, it's not.
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SPEAKER_02: They're deeply out of practice playing together.
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SPEAKER_02: They're not going to be at all in sync.
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And then they're going to beat each other up on stage the first
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time they see each other.
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SPEAKER_00: Hopefully.
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SPEAKER_00: But hopefully they just keep the act up.
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SPEAKER_00: Now that they've booked all of the U.S.
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SPEAKER_00: shows, they're going to make that.
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SPEAKER_00: It's way too much money.
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SPEAKER_02: I'd like to point out, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: You don't even know anything about them.
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SPEAKER_00: You don't know any of the songs.
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SPEAKER_02: I know nothing about pop culture for the most part.
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SPEAKER_02: I know they did the song Wonderwall.
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SPEAKER_02: I couldn't name the song.
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SPEAKER_02: If you played the song for me, I probably wouldn't.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm aware they wrote a song called Wonderwall that's popular.
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SPEAKER_02: But I know that they hate each other.
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The information has trickled down to me that the Gallagher
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brothers despise each other.
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are you doing yeah what are you doing now i can't hear you now
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i can't hear you i
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can't hear anything i don't i don't know what's happening i'm
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just sitting i can
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hear you yes i can hear you now cool we're recording i don't
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know what just
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SPEAKER_00: happened there nope software went berserk so anyways back to it so
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That is reminding me I need to price our Scotland tickets at
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some point today.
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SPEAKER_00: It's still way too early to buy them, but...
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I will ask you,
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since this is something you do,
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what is the optimal time to buy a ticket?
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SPEAKER_02: Because it used to be like Priceline's whole thing.
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SPEAKER_02: If you're older,
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SPEAKER_02: you remember Priceline,
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you used to actually be able to get deals because they would
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like if you bought
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SPEAKER_02: like right before you flew.
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SPEAKER_02: I did this several times.
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SPEAKER_02: It was like,
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SPEAKER_02: you know,
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SPEAKER_02: whatever seats were available,
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SPEAKER_02: you get dumped into it for ridiculously cheap.
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SPEAKER_02: That doesn't work anymore.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: It depends on where you're going.
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SPEAKER_00: For domestic, it's harder to get really, really good deals.
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SPEAKER_00: For international, it's like two, three months.
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SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
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And it just it really depends on the route and how popular it
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is and what day
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SPEAKER_00: you're going and what time you're going.
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And I do actually look for deals because I am known to change
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my flights often for
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better day prices because I'd rather stay somewhere with a
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hotel location.
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SPEAKER_00: For extra money in the flight or like cut it short a day or something.
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SPEAKER_02: And you have status so you can change your flights whenever you want.
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SPEAKER_02: Us plebeians who don't have status who have to pay to do this.
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SPEAKER_00: I also have status so I don't have to pay for bags.
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SPEAKER_02: Fancy.
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SPEAKER_02: And they got heavier bags, too.
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We were discussing this because Southwest Airlines announced
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that they were no longer,
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SPEAKER_02: you're not getting a free bag anymore,
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SPEAKER_02: which is incredibly stupid on their part.
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I get it,
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but it's incredibly stupid because that was always their big ad.
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SPEAKER_02: That was their big ad on.
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SPEAKER_02: They have bigger seats traditionally,
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SPEAKER_02: but when I flew,
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SPEAKER_02: I tried to fly Southwest as much as possible because I liked them.
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SPEAKER_02: You got the free bag.
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with that was you know it was nice uh but they're not doing
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that anymore and
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apparently frontier airways has seen this as a place to move
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into um so frontier
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they are offering free free bag that's what i've heard i've
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never flown frontier my
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wife will not fly frontier no but she is but but but she said
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that with with this
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she will try them just to see if maybe they aren't as bad as
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their reputation um
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SPEAKER_00: They are as bad as their reputation.
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SPEAKER_00: I think it's not good.
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So frontier being a Colorado airline,
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you think I'd be like,
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yes,
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except for the team.
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SPEAKER_00: So frontier used to be the best.
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SPEAKER_00: They had direct TV in the back of every seat.
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SPEAKER_00: You had like free TV.
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SPEAKER_00: You didn't have to pay for it.
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SPEAKER_00: This is,
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SPEAKER_00: you know,
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SPEAKER_00: back in the ancient times when I worked in the Senate,
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SPEAKER_00: I would always fly them.
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SPEAKER_00: Um,
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And an airline that was like an all first class airline called
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Midwest Express bought them out.
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SPEAKER_00: And Midwest Express was great too.
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SPEAKER_00: I used to fly them when my parents lived in Wisconsin.
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SPEAKER_00: I'd fly them all the time.
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SPEAKER_00: It was this awesome airline.
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SPEAKER_00: So every single seat was first class.
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SPEAKER_00: They would give you like champagne and cookies.
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SPEAKER_00: It was the best experience.
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SPEAKER_00: They buy Frontier and both of them start cratering.
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SPEAKER_00: And now Frontier is like...
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know that I would ever go on Frontier or Spirit.
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SPEAKER_00: In my rider for Sweet Seas,
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SPEAKER_00: when people have paid me to go do trips with them,
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SPEAKER_00: I have it like I will not fly Frontier or Spirit.
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And I know that sounds really snobby of me,
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but I also won't fly American.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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spirit i get um frontier has bet but my thinking is frontier is
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spirit level like
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that's what i'm saying but my thinking is because my thinking
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is that perhaps this
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is frontier making the first tentative steps towards
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reinventing themselves as the
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new southwest now that because south what southwest airlines is
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doing is they are
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basically acknowledging the fact that they are now one of the
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big carriers yeah
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Their big thing was always like,
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you know,
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we're not one of the big carriers.
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We'll get you where you're going and we'll be nice to you and
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you'll get these perks.
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SPEAKER_02: But now they're acknowledging they're basically united or...
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American Airlines accept that you have to book your tickets
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through them and you
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SPEAKER_02: can't do it through one of the things,
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SPEAKER_02: which is honestly kind of annoying at this point.
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I don't know why they still hang on to that policy of not
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working with the brokers.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Honestly, I haven't used brokers for a long time anyways.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm sure you probably have your own airline concierge.
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You call up and you say,
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Joaquin,
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Joaquin,
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I would like to fly to Bahamas,
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please.
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SPEAKER_02: Book me the ticket first class.
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A new name I've never heard for the United dashboard that
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literally everyone else uses.
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But you just if you fly a lot,
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especially out of Denver,
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you have like one choice.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I could fly Frontier, but I would sooner die.
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SPEAKER_02: No, literally everyone else uses like Google search Google flights.
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SPEAKER_02: No, I understand that.
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SPEAKER_00: But out of Denver, there's so few flights that aren't United.
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I think United is actually currently looking at changing their
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main hub from
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SPEAKER_00: Chicago to Denver since they already do so many things out of Denver.
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SPEAKER_00: United is who you fly if you're going through Colorado.
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SPEAKER_00: Isn't Frontier out of Denver?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but like, no, we don't talk about them.
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SPEAKER_02: You discount Frontier.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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we don't talk about them um yeah it's it's mostly a united and
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other star alliance
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so we have all the other star alliance uh flights coming
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through from denver but
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what is the star alliance now it's lufthansa um turkish um i
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think the british
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SPEAKER_00: airway isn't a different one they're with delta all right yeah
16:56
SPEAKER_00: Air France is also... I think Air France is one world with Delta.
17:01
SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure.
17:02
SPEAKER_00: But again, I'm stuck with Star Alliance.
17:05
SPEAKER_00: But that actually works really well for me because there's a lot...
17:09
There's like four or five daily flights round trip from Denver
17:14
to Germany.
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SPEAKER_00: And we go to Germany the most, so... Yeah.
17:18
SPEAKER_02: No, that's... We live like...
17:21
SPEAKER_02: I think the closest major airport to us is like four hours away.
17:25
So,
17:26
you know,
17:26
we have a little regional one,
17:29
but our little regional one flies Frontier.
17:31
I think it's Frontier and I think Delta are the only places
17:34
that fly out of it.
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SPEAKER_00: Frontier has really fun tail designs for kids.
17:45
SPEAKER_00: See, that's great.
17:46
SPEAKER_00: It's like the animals in the back.
17:48
SPEAKER_00: It's always cute.
17:50
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
17:50
SPEAKER_02: You know, the thing is, I think people expect too much out of airlines.
17:55
SPEAKER_02: They should.
17:57
SPEAKER_02: No, they should not.
17:59
SPEAKER_00: Let's go back to the golden age of flying.
18:01
SPEAKER_00: Let's go back to when we were kids and it was great.
18:04
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
18:05
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
18:05
SPEAKER_02: A, not everyone flew a lot when they were kids.
18:07
SPEAKER_02: Again, Miss Bougie.
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SPEAKER_00: We would fly from LA to Kansas City.
18:13
It was hardly like...
18:16
I wasn't jumping off to go to Marrakesh or something.
18:19
SPEAKER_00: We were going to Kansas City.
18:21
SPEAKER_02: Well,
18:22
most people would have had to pack the bag into the station
18:24
wagon and just pack the
18:26
kids in the station wagon and haul up to Kansas City with kids
18:30
screaming in the back.
18:30
SPEAKER_00: From Los Angeles, yeah.
18:32
SPEAKER_00: It was a little bit more of a drive.
18:33
SPEAKER_00: So we would occasionally fly.
18:35
SPEAKER_00: But...
18:40
fundamentally i forgot what i was gonna say because you got all
18:43
because you you you
18:45
got all study oh well it used to be that literally you know the
18:49
inside the fuselage
18:50
of the airplane they were just like little literally wicker
18:52
chairs everyone talks
18:53
SPEAKER_02: about the 60s when it was like when when
18:55
SPEAKER_02: We see the pictures of first class in the 60s and we're like, ooh.
18:58
SPEAKER_02: But before that,
19:00
SPEAKER_02: in like the 30s and 40s,
19:02
SPEAKER_02: it was just like,
19:02
SPEAKER_02: you know,
19:03
SPEAKER_02: literally wicker chairs that were strapped in.
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SPEAKER_00: You just like sat on the ground.
19:06
SPEAKER_00: Just go back to that.
19:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
19:07
SPEAKER_00: Bunch quartered yourself in.
19:09
SPEAKER_02: Go back to that.
19:10
SPEAKER_02: People are too spoiled.
19:11
SPEAKER_02: We need to be more laconic.
19:14
SPEAKER_00: I think we should just be even more spoiled.
19:18
SPEAKER_02: You would.
19:19
You and your fancy Colombian flowers would think you need to be
19:23
more spoiled.
19:24
SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
19:25
SPEAKER_00: I like what I like.
19:30
SPEAKER_00: You say that, and yet, did I tell you what we're doing for my birthday?
19:34
SPEAKER_02: You did not.
19:35
SPEAKER_02: What are you doing for your birthday?
19:38
SPEAKER_00: This is amazing.
19:40
SPEAKER_00: My kids asked me to make reservations at Casa Bonita for tonight.
19:45
SPEAKER_00: Casa Bonita.
19:47
SPEAKER_00: My kids are taking me to Casa Bonita tonight for my birthday.
19:50
SPEAKER_00: So how's that?
19:52
SPEAKER_02: You are lining the pockets of Trey Parker and Matt Stone this evening.
19:56
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
19:57
SPEAKER_02: I'm sure they're taking a loss on that.
19:59
SPEAKER_02: That is a labor of love for them.
20:02
SPEAKER_02: I still haven't watched the documentary about that.
20:04
SPEAKER_02: You have to watch it.
20:04
SPEAKER_02: I know I need to watch it.
20:06
SPEAKER_02: I haven't watched it yet.
20:06
SPEAKER_00: It's so good.
20:07
SPEAKER_00: I really should.
20:08
Watch it tonight and you'll be like,
20:09
oh my gosh,
20:10
she is willingly choosing to eat there.
20:13
Hopefully I will be able to get closer to being caught up on
20:16
Severance this evening.
20:18
SPEAKER_02: I'm two episodes behind now as opposed to three episodes behind,
20:22
SPEAKER_02: but there's just so much going on.
20:23
And I want to be up on it for when the season finale drops at
20:29
the end of this week.
20:30
You need to really quickly watch season two of White Lotus,
20:34
which was phenomenal.
20:36
SPEAKER_00: So much better than the first one.
20:38
And get to this season of White Lotus because there was an
20:43
unhinged rant that was amazing.
20:46
SPEAKER_02: I've heard about, actually, I think I watched it on Hinge, right?
20:49
SPEAKER_02: With Sam Rockwell?
20:50
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
20:52
SPEAKER_02: I actually, I saw that floating around on Twitter and I watched that.
20:56
SPEAKER_00: And just sitting there like, what?
20:59
SPEAKER_02: Walter Goggins, man.
21:00
SPEAKER_02: Walter Goggins, can you go wrong?
21:02
SPEAKER_00: I just.
21:03
SPEAKER_02: I love Walter Goggins.
21:04
SPEAKER_02: He's great in everything.
21:06
I have heard things about the third season of White Lotus that
21:09
make me wary to
21:10
SPEAKER_02: watch it because it sounds kind of gross.
21:14
SPEAKER_02: Just, you know.
21:16
SPEAKER_02: Apparently there's twin brothers.
21:18
SPEAKER_02: Oh, the incest.
21:21
SPEAKER_00: They're not twins.
21:22
SPEAKER_00: They're not twins.
21:23
SPEAKER_00: It's a younger brother and an older brother.
21:25
SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's okay then.
21:26
SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
21:27
SPEAKER_00: That's fine.
21:29
SPEAKER_00: First of all, the older one, Schwarzenegger, was not like
21:35
a willing participant yes that was i i read it apparently the
21:40
actor wasn't as well
21:41
i read a thing that was said that he was not like he was not
21:44
cool with filming the
21:45
scene and that the reaction the reaction that his character
21:49
because i guess he's
21:50
apparently apparently he's not gay the reaction he had on
21:56
camera was his actual
21:57
SPEAKER_02: reaction because he like went off apparently went off like vomited uh
22:03
SPEAKER_00: Well,
22:03
SPEAKER_00: probably because of the storyline,
22:06
SPEAKER_00: like that is a jacked up storyline,
22:07
SPEAKER_00: but it doesn't heavy,
22:09
SPEAKER_00: like heavily feature in it so far.
22:11
SPEAKER_00: You,
22:12
you were making fun of me for hitting my mic and screwing it up
22:15
earlier and you
22:16
SPEAKER_00: just did it.
22:17
SPEAKER_02: So I didn't screw it up.
22:19
SPEAKER_02: Did I?
22:20
SPEAKER_02: Can you hear me?
22:21
SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, but you were like messing around with it.
22:23
SPEAKER_02: No, no.
22:25
SPEAKER_02: So I had to cough.
22:26
SPEAKER_02: So there's a button on the front of it.
22:28
So rather than having to do it on the thing,
22:30
I hit the button on the front of my mic to mute it.
22:34
SPEAKER_02: Some of us are more polite.
22:36
SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm the one who has to edit this so I can just mute on my mic.
22:39
SPEAKER_00: Good point.
22:43
SPEAKER_02: No,
22:44
I'll watch the third season because Walter Goggins and
22:48
apparently Sam Rockwell
22:49
SPEAKER_02: giving a weird unhinged speech.
22:52
SPEAKER_00: So unhinged.
22:54
SPEAKER_00: I just sat there.
22:56
SPEAKER_00: They cut back to his character just sitting there like, wait, what?
22:59
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, yes, same.
23:04
The impression I've gotten from these is that sane people don't
23:07
go on tropical vacations.
23:10
SPEAKER_02: Certainly from the first one, except for Steve Zahn.
23:12
Steve Zahn,
23:13
he was a troubled man in season one,
23:16
but he was reasonably sane.
23:18
SPEAKER_02: But most other people were pretty awful.
23:20
Well,
23:20
I think you have to be fairly insane to have the kind of money
23:24
that they're spending.
23:25
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's true.
23:27
SPEAKER_02: That's a good point.
23:28
SPEAKER_02: That was I saw apparently Google just sends me these news stories.
23:33
SPEAKER_02: I clearly look things up about White Lotus.
23:35
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, when you go to Google, it sends below on the feed.
23:38
SPEAKER_02: You might be interested in these stories.
23:40
SPEAKER_02: So there was one that I get sucked into it because I'm a boomer, I guess.
23:47
SPEAKER_02: Oh,
23:49
there was one there was one that it was like the one shocking
23:52
reason that white
23:53
lotus will never be will uh never never be in a non in a
23:57
non-tropical area i was
23:59
like i wonder what that reason is so i clicked on it and
24:01
apparently mike white the
24:03
SPEAKER_02: guy who raised him doesn't like the cold well
24:08
SPEAKER_02: I just think it's sad.
24:10
It ties back into earlier talking about how you wanted your
24:13
ideal place to be with Greenland.
24:14
SPEAKER_02: This was before we recorded that you wanted to live in Greenland.
24:17
SPEAKER_02: And that was apparently he is not down with going to Greenland.
24:21
SPEAKER_02: It's too cold for him.
24:23
SPEAKER_00: The flights on United start the first week of May, second week of May.
24:29
SPEAKER_00: To Nook?
24:30
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
24:32
SPEAKER_00: I have them priced.
24:33
SPEAKER_00: I have a price alert on them.
24:35
SPEAKER_00: It will surprise no one.
24:36
Will Sweet Seas Designs be doing a spread on the traditional
24:42
foods of Nook?
24:43
SPEAKER_02: Because I'm pretty sure they probably eat things like Hakarl.
24:47
SPEAKER_02: Like the Icelandics.
24:48
SPEAKER_00: I will try anything once.
24:51
SPEAKER_02: You can eat Hakarl.
24:52
SPEAKER_02: You know what Hakarl is, right?
24:53
SPEAKER_00: I'm sure you do.
24:54
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
24:55
SPEAKER_00: I will eat anything once as long as it doesn't have mustard.
25:01
SPEAKER_02: Inform people here who are listening what Hakarl is.
25:06
SPEAKER_00: Is it the fermented shark?
25:08
SPEAKER_02: It's rotten shark.
25:09
SPEAKER_02: They bury shark and they come back like two weeks later.
25:12
SPEAKER_00: And ferment it.
25:13
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
25:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
25:15
SPEAKER_00: Smells like death.
25:17
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'll try it.
25:22
i'll vomit profusely afterwards but why not i'll try whatever i
25:26
would go to
25:26
greenland though greenland would be i'm flying to england one
25:29
of the things i was
25:30
enjoying was that i think on the return flight from where i was
25:34
flying out of you
25:35
flew you over flew greenland it was just fascinating looking at
25:37
looking out and
25:38
watch seeing just all the all the glaciers when you fly to
25:43
frankfurt or munich from
25:45
SPEAKER_00: denver you fly over greenland
25:47
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
25:47
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
25:47
SPEAKER_02: I think that's the northerly route.
25:53
SPEAKER_00: Which I appreciate.
25:54
SPEAKER_00: I don't love flying over open ocean.
25:56
For someone who flies a lot,
25:58
I'm actually a really,
25:59
really skittish flyer.
26:01
SPEAKER_00: Oh, really?
26:01
SPEAKER_00: I'm not the best flyer.
26:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
26:03
SPEAKER_00: Turbulence.
26:04
SPEAKER_00: I'm like crying.
26:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
26:06
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
26:08
SPEAKER_00: I also cross myself every time before we take off,
26:11
SPEAKER_00: and then people see me do that,
26:13
SPEAKER_00: and I'm like,
26:13
SPEAKER_00: no,
26:13
SPEAKER_00: I just do that because I'm orthodox.
26:16
SPEAKER_00: And people start to freak out, and I'm like, no, it's just like, yeah.
26:20
SPEAKER_02: Quit freaking people out.
26:22
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's just my default.
26:29
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
26:29
SPEAKER_02: I think I like the idea of flying over water better.
26:34
SPEAKER_02: Because I'm aware that either way I'm going to die if there's a crash.
26:36
SPEAKER_02: But at least with water,
26:37
SPEAKER_02: you feel like,
26:38
SPEAKER_02: you know,
26:40
it's easier to have a softer emergency landing in water than it
26:43
would be in a mountain.
26:45
SPEAKER_00: Hold on.
26:45
SPEAKER_00: Aren't you the person who does like swimming in open bodies of water?
26:50
SPEAKER_02: They have rafts.
26:51
SPEAKER_02: They have things you can get on.
26:53
SPEAKER_02: It's fine.
26:55
SPEAKER_02: No, I cannot be in water where my feet can't touch the ground.
26:58
SPEAKER_02: That's true.
26:59
SPEAKER_02: But they have rafts.
27:01
SPEAKER_02: If I had a flotation device,
27:03
SPEAKER_02: if they have the blowout flotation device,
27:04
SPEAKER_02: I'd probably be cool with that.
27:07
SPEAKER_02: I'm fine if I have something giving me the buoyancy.
27:11
SPEAKER_00: So, like, if you're in a lake, are you okay?
27:15
SPEAKER_02: If my feet can touch the ground.
27:17
Okay,
27:17
but if they can't,
27:18
like,
27:19
you need to have,
27:20
like,
27:20
a life jacket on or something?
27:21
SPEAKER_00: Do we need to get you some waterways?
27:24
SPEAKER_02: I don't want water wings.
27:25
SPEAKER_02: No, I just won't go in the water if it's too deep.
27:29
SPEAKER_00: Really?
27:30
SPEAKER_00: This is fascinating.
27:32
SPEAKER_02: Just a pathological thing.
27:34
I'm constantly aware that I'm not going to drown,
27:36
but my brain just starts screeching at me.
27:38
SPEAKER_02: You're going to drown!
27:38
SPEAKER_02: I can't do it.
27:39
SPEAKER_00: It's like me and Bridges.
27:41
SPEAKER_00: I can't.
27:42
SPEAKER_00: I hate Bridges so much.
27:44
SPEAKER_00: I hate Bridges.
27:44
SPEAKER_00: Are you the headless horseman?
27:49
SPEAKER_00: I have nightmares all the time that I'm driving off a bridge,
27:52
SPEAKER_00: and right as I'm about to hit,
27:54
SPEAKER_00: I wake up.
27:56
SPEAKER_00: I have a severe deep-seated fear of bridges.
27:59
SPEAKER_02: I feel like Freud would have something to say about that.
28:03
SPEAKER_00: Probably.
28:03
There's some interesting dream interpretations that I could
28:06
probably rip off if I wanted to.
28:09
SPEAKER_00: No, I really am terrified of bridges.
28:12
SPEAKER_02: Really?
28:13
SPEAKER_02: I like bridges.
28:14
SPEAKER_02: A nice covered bridge.
28:17
SPEAKER_02: You can't get much more quaint New England than that.
28:19
SPEAKER_00: A covered bridge, a little bit different.
28:21
I'm talking like when you're in Baltimore and you're going
28:25
across the Bay Bridge.
28:26
SPEAKER_00: Oh, nightmare fuel.
28:27
SPEAKER_00: That huge bridge from Delmarva into Virginia.
28:31
SPEAKER_02: Oh, the Chesapeake Bay, the Chesapeake thing?
28:35
SPEAKER_00: No, I hate bridges.
28:36
SPEAKER_00: That's cool.
28:37
SPEAKER_00: And driving across the bridges in San Francisco, I hate.
28:41
SPEAKER_00: I hate so much.
28:42
SPEAKER_00: The Golden Gate Bridge isn't so, so bad because it's shorter.
28:45
SPEAKER_00: But like, no, I'm not good with bridges.
28:49
SPEAKER_02: Have you ever seen old videos of Gallop and Gertie?
28:55
maybe i don't know it was this it was one of the first
28:57
suspension bridges uh they
28:59
didn't account for wind shear or something no you can't no the
29:04
whole bridge was
29:05
always it like was always doing like rocking constantly in the
29:09
wind and people just
29:10
used it it was like it was already built so they used it and
29:15
then there are videos
29:16
SPEAKER_02: online you should look them up you'll love them
29:19
nope and then one day it collapsed no like it is a massive
29:24
massive massive fear of
29:26
mine like i there have been times that i almost put on the east
29:29
coast this is a
29:31
thing but not in the west they have like the guides that who
29:36
will drive your car
29:37
across the bridge if you're afraid of bridges and i've almost
29:40
used them in the
29:42
SPEAKER_02: I have lived on the East Coast for my entire life.
29:46
SPEAKER_02: This is the first time.
29:47
SPEAKER_02: That doesn't exist.
29:48
SPEAKER_02: You just made that up.
29:48
SPEAKER_00: No, go through.
29:49
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
29:50
SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
29:51
SPEAKER_02: Your husband told you that was a thing to make you feel better.
29:54
SPEAKER_00: It 100% exists in Baltimore.
29:56
SPEAKER_02: It does not exist.
29:58
SPEAKER_02: That does not.
29:58
SPEAKER_02: There are not car pilots.
30:01
SPEAKER_00: No, that is not a thing.
30:05
There's no one whose profession is driving people across
30:09
bridges for skittish travelers.
30:12
SPEAKER_02: That's absurd.
30:13
SPEAKER_02: You're just making stuff up.
30:15
SPEAKER_02: I'm not...
30:17
SPEAKER_02: Or like I said, I'm positive your husband made that up.
30:20
SPEAKER_02: It was like,
30:20
SPEAKER_02: well,
30:20
SPEAKER_02: you know,
30:21
we could hire this special guy who will drive our car for us
30:25
across the bridge.
30:26
SPEAKER_02: But I believe in you and you're brave.
30:28
SPEAKER_02: Just to shame you into actually doing it.
30:31
SPEAKER_02: This is a made up thing you just did.
30:33
SPEAKER_00: The really funny thing is I usually drive for us too.
30:39
SPEAKER_00: Really?
30:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
30:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I get carsick.
30:42
SPEAKER_00: So I like to drive because then I don't.
30:45
SPEAKER_02: You don't get carsick when you drive.
30:47
SPEAKER_00: And Luke likes to pretend he has a chauffeur.
30:49
SPEAKER_02: So it works.
30:53
SPEAKER_02: I like driving.
30:54
SPEAKER_02: I only like driving.
30:55
SPEAKER_02: I'm not a big fan of being a passenger.
30:57
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what to do with myself.
30:58
SPEAKER_00: But he has to drive across bridges and park.
31:03
SPEAKER_02: Oh, and park.
31:04
SPEAKER_00: No, I can't park to save my life.
31:07
SPEAKER_02: Not dodging any stereotypes here, are we?
31:09
SPEAKER_00: No, I fully cannot park.
31:13
SPEAKER_02: Um...
31:16
SPEAKER_02: My car will actually park itself.
31:19
SPEAKER_02: I haven't figured out how to actually use the feature,
31:20
SPEAKER_02: but it will parallel park itself using its cameras.
31:25
SPEAKER_00: I would probably still screw that up.
31:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's fair.
31:30
SPEAKER_00: I fully would.
31:33
SPEAKER_02: You'll have to send me a picture of your hubcaps sometime.
31:35
SPEAKER_02: I'm curious what they look like.
31:37
I'm looking for a picture in my phone right now from Bratislava
31:42
two years ago.
31:44
SPEAKER_00: It was a brand new.
31:46
SPEAKER_00: Let me just go on record saying it was a brand new BMW.
31:51
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I think you showed me this picture before.
31:53
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
31:55
SPEAKER_02: You're playing bumper cars with your...
31:58
SPEAKER_02: I assume when you rent cars,
31:59
SPEAKER_02: you buy the insurance,
32:00
SPEAKER_02: right?
32:02
SPEAKER_00: Well, okay.
32:05
Some of us are required to now always have the most expensive
32:11
insurance type when
32:12
SPEAKER_00: they rent a car from certain companies in Europe.
32:17
SPEAKER_02: I actually have a credit card that covers the insurance.
32:23
SPEAKER_00: They all do.
32:24
SPEAKER_02: No, no.
32:26
SPEAKER_02: It has second.
32:28
SPEAKER_02: It's the Chase Sapphire Reserve.
32:31
SPEAKER_02: It has the highest level of coverage.
32:35
SPEAKER_02: But I never rent cars going to fly.
32:38
SPEAKER_02: I always have my car with me.
32:40
SPEAKER_02: That's one of the reasons I like to drive instead of fly.
32:42
SPEAKER_02: I don't have to have a rental car.
32:45
SPEAKER_02: It's just my car, and I know it.
32:47
So I would do that except for the fact that it's a little tough
32:51
to get your car,
32:52
SPEAKER_00: you know,
32:53
SPEAKER_00: to fly to another continent.
32:55
I'm surprised a bougie person like you doesn't just like,
32:58
because they will fly your car.
33:00
SPEAKER_00: You have a very different form of bougie than most other people.
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Like,
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I,
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never mind your car,
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I'm pretty sure is more expensive than mine.
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SPEAKER_00: My Volvo?
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: My, my, my Volvo I bought used.
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SPEAKER_02: My used Volvo, my 2019 Volvo.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, I do have a brand new car at the moment.
33:21
SPEAKER_00: But usually, okay, I am today 43.
33:26
SPEAKER_00: I was 41 something when I bought my first new car,
33:30
SPEAKER_00: and I've never had a car that wasn't super,
33:35
SPEAKER_00: super cheap,
33:35
SPEAKER_00: so...
33:37
SPEAKER_02: I bought one new car in my life.
33:39
The car I had before this one that got totaled in the Kroger
33:41
parking lot by an old
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SPEAKER_02: lady was a Subaru Forester.
33:46
SPEAKER_02: I bought that new.
33:49
SPEAKER_02: I liked that car.
33:50
SPEAKER_02: I got it.
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SPEAKER_02: We were living in New Jersey at the time.
33:51
SPEAKER_02: We needed all wheel drive.
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SPEAKER_00: I just, you drove a Subaru.
33:55
SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to.
33:56
SPEAKER_00: I really liked my Subaru Forester.
33:58
SPEAKER_00: It was a nice little car.
33:59
SPEAKER_00: It was peppy.
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SPEAKER_00: All right.
34:01
SPEAKER_00: I really, really like my new car.
34:04
SPEAKER_00: It's fun to drive.
34:05
SPEAKER_02: Is this the Rivian?
34:07
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
34:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Someone yelled at me the other day, and they were like, ugh.
34:13
SPEAKER_00: They said something about Alana, and I was like, dude, wrong car.
34:16
SPEAKER_00: Also, please don't come and key mine.
34:19
SPEAKER_02: It's going to happen.
34:22
SPEAKER_00: Apparently being a lib and trying to save the environment,
34:26
SPEAKER_00: which for the record is not why I bought this car.
34:29
SPEAKER_00: I just thought it was cool.
34:30
SPEAKER_02: You wanted for the cool features.
34:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
34:32
SPEAKER_00: No, legitimately, I had no thought that this was saving the environment.
34:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
34:39
SPEAKER_00: It's actually probably worse for the environment, to which I say.
34:42
SPEAKER_02: It's certainly worse for the slave children in Congo.
34:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
34:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
34:47
SPEAKER_02: Just putting that out there.
34:50
SPEAKER_02: All that cobalt ain't just materializing out of nowhere.
34:53
SPEAKER_00: I was going to make a really bad joke about jobs.
34:55
SPEAKER_02: Don't do it.
34:57
SPEAKER_00: Don't do it.
34:58
SPEAKER_00: Don't do it.
34:59
SPEAKER_00: Nope.
35:00
SPEAKER_00: Anyways,
35:01
SPEAKER_00: so I am not supporting more blood for oil,
35:06
SPEAKER_00: but for the right electronics in a car,
35:11
SPEAKER_00: I would.
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SPEAKER_00: It's a really fun car to drive.
35:15
SPEAKER_00: It's so much fun off-roading.
35:17
SPEAKER_02: Radians look like a good time.
35:19
They are,
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but I'm going to be pissed when someone goes to key my car
35:23
because of Tesla.
35:24
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to be like,
35:25
SPEAKER_00: it's not even...
35:26
I think it's really funny if people start going after the Kia
35:33
electric cars,
35:34
SPEAKER_02: because there's this whole class of really just...
35:38
SPEAKER_02: People who don't understand what they believe, they just believe it.
35:41
SPEAKER_02: And they're just going to think all electric cars are evil.
35:43
SPEAKER_02: That's what they are.
35:45
SPEAKER_02: That is what they are leading to.
35:47
SPEAKER_00: They already are.
35:49
SPEAKER_00: Like, I can testify.
35:51
SPEAKER_00: I mean,
35:51
I was just driving around this small town in northern Colorado
35:54
and someone yelling
35:55
SPEAKER_00: at me for my car.
35:56
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, dude, wrong thing.
35:58
SPEAKER_00: But...
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The way Democrats have been mishandling so many of their messages,
36:04
and it reflects.
36:06
SPEAKER_02: They're all freaking out because that poll just came out.
36:07
SPEAKER_02: They're viewed unfavorably by 29% of the American population.
36:12
SPEAKER_02: But I don't know how they have been having such messaging issues.
36:17
SPEAKER_02: As you say,
36:19
people hate all electric now because they hate Elon and Elon's
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electric cars,
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SPEAKER_02: so all electric cars are evil.
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SPEAKER_02: It's this insane logical conclusion.
36:29
SPEAKER_00: I don't think they have messaging issues.
36:32
SPEAKER_00: I think they have a message issue.
36:35
SPEAKER_02: Well, yes, there is that.
36:37
But I mean,
36:39
both parties used to be better at long term strategic messaging strategies.
36:45
SPEAKER_02: But it's.
36:46
SPEAKER_00: I mean, look, we abandoned that years and years ago.
36:50
SPEAKER_00: So everyone else can catch up.
36:52
SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the suck.
36:53
SPEAKER_00: It's not that much fun.
36:54
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
36:56
I mean,
36:56
as someone who spends a lot of time on Twitter,
36:59
it is at times fun.
37:00
SPEAKER_02: Although I keep,
37:00
SPEAKER_02: like,
37:01
SPEAKER_02: I'm just,
37:02
I'm more and more phoning in politics in general just because I
37:08
don't care.
37:08
SPEAKER_02: At this point, I will care.
37:13
SPEAKER_00: No, you sound like a liberal.
37:15
SPEAKER_00: You sound like a Joe Biden liberal who's like, you know what?
37:19
SPEAKER_00: I did my part.
37:21
SPEAKER_00: I voted.
37:21
SPEAKER_00: The outcome I want happened.
37:24
And now I can just check out for two to four years until
37:28
something really pisses me off again.
37:30
SPEAKER_02: The thing is that everything's set now.
37:35
SPEAKER_02: It's easy to forget Trump hasn't been president for that long.
37:38
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's been a couple of months.
37:39
SPEAKER_00: It feels like a lifetime.
37:42
Me being worked up about any one thing doesn't matter because
37:46
until the midterm at
37:48
SPEAKER_02: the earliest,
37:48
SPEAKER_02: nothing is going to change.
37:50
SPEAKER_02: This is where we are until at least the midterm.
37:55
SPEAKER_02: So I'm kind of giving myself a mental respite.
37:59
Oh,
38:00
just like,
38:00
I don't,
38:01
I don't,
38:01
I want to think about fun and funny things.
38:04
SPEAKER_02: I want to think about TV shows.
38:05
SPEAKER_02: I want to think about travel.
38:06
SPEAKER_02: I want to think about, you know, nice, fun stuff for just a little bit.
38:11
SPEAKER_02: Can't I have this?
38:12
SPEAKER_02: Can't I have this one thing?
38:13
SPEAKER_02: No, I can't.
38:14
SPEAKER_02: People are always calling me into frog stuff.
38:16
SPEAKER_02: This is the life.
38:17
SPEAKER_02: This is the life I've chosen.
38:20
SPEAKER_00: So sorry for you.
38:21
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
38:22
SPEAKER_02: All this Twitter engagement.
38:25
SPEAKER_00: What will I do?
38:26
SPEAKER_00: Not spring for decent family airfare with it.
38:32
SPEAKER_00: We learned that.
38:33
SPEAKER_00: You're going to put your family on Frontier.
38:36
SPEAKER_02: Yep, Fly Frontier.
38:37
SPEAKER_02: I'm cheap.
38:38
SPEAKER_02: I'm cheap.
38:40
SPEAKER_02: Darkness was cheap and Scrooge liked it.
38:42
SPEAKER_00: Look,
38:43
I could die tomorrow and it would really be a shame for that to
38:47
happen in economy
38:49
SPEAKER_00: with the other unwashed masses.
38:50
SPEAKER_00: So, sorry.
38:54
SPEAKER_02: Make a note that you said that.
38:58
Want to be able to refer back later about when you claim you're
39:02
not bougie.
39:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
39:05
SPEAKER_00: No, my friend did actually buy me a shirt once.
39:07
SPEAKER_00: I have to find it.
39:08
SPEAKER_00: I don't know where it is.
39:08
SPEAKER_00: But it says, do I look like I fly economy?
39:12
SPEAKER_02: Sounds like something you'd wear.
39:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
39:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
39:16
In fairness,
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I do actually have a doctor's note that says that I have to fly.
39:21
SPEAKER_02: First.
39:22
SPEAKER_02: Deep vein thrombosis.
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yeah i can't get that stupid surgery so my my wife um the
39:29
company she used to work
39:31
for when she'd have to travel they had acquired some study that
39:36
showed that like
39:37
the odds of deep vein thrombosis increased from lack of leg
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room if you're like
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above i think it was like a four hour four or five hour flight
39:45
something like that
39:47
SPEAKER_02: so um
39:48
that they use that if she had to fly like she had to fly to
39:52
europe a couple times
39:53
SPEAKER_02: at one point we flew to california
39:55
um they would fly her business class because because it was
40:00
blatantly a thing that
40:02
they wanted to fly business class they found an excuse to do it
40:06
no but that is but
40:07
that is a good excuse and like currently i my insurance isn't
40:11
paying for the
40:11
surgery that i need to like prevent this so it yeah i have a
40:16
legitimate like it's
40:18
more money but that's why i didn't go to berlin although yes i
40:23
did have a business
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class ticket because i'm sure you did the the uh it wasn't a
40:29
first class ticket
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yeah but business and first my understanding are basically the
40:35
same they're not
40:36
exactly the same but shockingly different um first of all yeah
40:40
no they are so first
40:42
of all flying liftonza you can't even fly first class from
40:46
denver they don't have
40:47
any first class routes it is a bigger product the liftonza's is
40:50
kind of weak if you
40:51
SPEAKER_00: were like on air france or something it's better
40:53
But when you land,
40:55
you go through and then you get access to the first class lounge.
40:58
SPEAKER_00: And then they drive.
41:01
SPEAKER_00: You don't have to mess around with the airport.
41:04
They pick you up at a Mercedes from the first class lounge and
41:07
drive you directly to your gate.
41:08
SPEAKER_00: And you get to pre-board before everyone else.
41:11
SPEAKER_00: And you don't have to take the buses.
41:12
SPEAKER_00: No, you don't get that in business.
41:14
SPEAKER_00: No.
41:15
SPEAKER_00: Well, no.
41:16
And you don't have to take the horrible like tarmac buses all
41:19
over Frankfurt.
41:21
SPEAKER_00: They drive you directly.
41:23
SPEAKER_02: They still do tarmac buses?
41:25
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
41:26
SPEAKER_00: Almost exclusively, especially if you fly to the U.S.
41:29
SPEAKER_02: They don't have the telescoping arms?
41:32
SPEAKER_02: The telescoping doors that come out?
41:34
SPEAKER_00: So they do those, but it's mostly apron arrivals.
41:39
SPEAKER_02: What do you mean by apron arrivals?
41:41
Apron arrivals are where you are out on different tarmacs and a
41:46
bus comes and gets you.
41:47
SPEAKER_02: You have to climb the stairs onto the plane?
41:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
41:50
SPEAKER_02: I didn't know anyone still did that.
41:51
SPEAKER_02: I thought they only did that for like private planes.
41:52
SPEAKER_00: No, they do that in Frankfurt.
41:55
SPEAKER_00: They do for most flights.
41:57
you are i'm trying to remember there was one horrible airport i
42:00
was in i don't
42:00
remember if it was philadelphia or it was one of the ones in dc
42:03
i remember i was
42:05
and they had these weird buses on still people movers that they
42:09
it's dulles you got
42:11
on this like big bus on johnny's giant stilts and then it like
42:14
drove you over you
42:15
over your plane they're like docked it was really odd i didn't
42:18
like the i didn't
42:19
SPEAKER_02: like the airport as at all uh
42:21
SPEAKER_00: No, it's Dulles.
42:22
SPEAKER_00: It's the worst airport.
42:23
SPEAKER_00: This is why.
42:23
This is specifically why I always fly through Germany because I
42:27
can go direct from Denver.
42:30
SPEAKER_00: I will not connect in the U.S.
42:33
SPEAKER_00: I just won't.
42:33
SPEAKER_00: I don't do.
42:34
SPEAKER_00: It's so incredibly pretentious.
42:45
I love it when you suddenly hear yourself talking and collapse
42:49
into Gale's laughter.
42:52
SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
42:53
SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to do customs and have to, like, recheck my bag.
42:58
SPEAKER_00: That is a bridge too far.
43:02
SPEAKER_02: That is fair.
43:03
SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying that isn't a reasonable thing.
43:06
SPEAKER_02: Just listen to yourself.
43:08
SPEAKER_02: Would you listen to yourself?
43:11
SPEAKER_00: Look...
43:13
SPEAKER_00: I will do anything to avoid Newark or Dulles.
43:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
43:19
SPEAKER_02: Newark wasn't that bad.
43:20
SPEAKER_02: I used to fly to Newark a lot.
43:22
SPEAKER_02: Newark wasn't that.
43:23
SPEAKER_02: Newark isn't that bad to fly as an origination point.
43:27
SPEAKER_02: It's not that bad.
43:29
Sure,
43:29
but for transferring,
43:30
especially international,
43:31
it sucks because you're always...
43:35
And you're always at the end of one and have to book it to the
43:40
end of the other.
43:41
SPEAKER_00: Same with O'Hare, man.
43:42
I hate having to do that sprint from B to C.
43:45
You're like,
43:46
oh,
43:46
B to C,
43:46
it's close.
43:47
SPEAKER_00: No, it's not close.
43:48
SPEAKER_00: It's across the whole damn airport.
43:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
43:51
SPEAKER_02: No, that's fair.
43:52
SPEAKER_00: No, I hate doing that.
43:53
SPEAKER_00: Plus, like, rebooking, having to go through customs.
43:57
SPEAKER_00: One, customs sucks in D.C.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: It's so much easier in Denver.
44:02
But having to,
44:03
like,
44:03
rebook your bags after that,
44:05
I'm not here to mess with any of that stuff.
44:07
SPEAKER_00: Like...
44:08
go through go direct from wherever you're flying which is easy
44:13
because i live in
44:13
denver so i can be like i can just land wherever not if i'm
44:17
going to see my brother
44:19
but that's why i don't go to australia because i don't want to
44:22
have to route
44:23
through lax well it's fair that's um i think we flew into lax
44:29
when we went to woman
44:29
california i don't really remember i don't really remember it
44:31
we just did it
44:34
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's fine because my family's, like, right up the street.
44:36
SPEAKER_00: My cousin can get there within, like, 15, 20 minutes.
44:39
SPEAKER_00: Or one of my crazy uncles can pick me up.
44:43
SPEAKER_00: But I just... LAX is, like, the worst airport.
44:46
SPEAKER_02: My ideal is, honestly, flying out of a very small regional airport.
44:51
SPEAKER_02: Like,
44:51
SPEAKER_02: that was...
44:53
SPEAKER_02: When I was...
44:54
SPEAKER_02: When I lived in Western Pennsylvania,
44:55
SPEAKER_02: I flew to the Erie Airport one time.
44:57
SPEAKER_02: And it was great because, like, you know, basically no line for anything.
45:00
SPEAKER_02: There was no...
45:02
really restaurant especially but it didn't matter because you
45:06
could show up like a
45:07
half hour beforehand and because you knew there was there
45:10
wasn't gonna be no line
45:11
to get the security um and then i and and and then and then
45:16
that just and and then
45:17
you you have to make a connection for the most part but it's
45:20
but the connection
45:21
isn't that bad the best big airport is phoenix now honestly or
45:27
salt lake not denver
45:29
SPEAKER_02: not denver with blucifer
45:32
SPEAKER_00: Okay,
45:33
SPEAKER_00: I don't mind the Denver airport,
45:35
but it's constantly under construction and has been for the
45:39
last 10 years,
45:40
SPEAKER_00: and it's going so far down.
45:42
SPEAKER_00: Every time you land there, you're like, cool, I'm in Baghdad today.
45:47
SPEAKER_02: That's because they're digging the Denver tunnels deeper and deeper.
45:50
SPEAKER_02: To do whatever it is they do in the Denver airport tunnels.
45:53
SPEAKER_00: I've been in the tunnels.
45:54
SPEAKER_00: You know what's there?
45:55
SPEAKER_00: The backup baggage carts.
45:58
SPEAKER_02: I bet you've been in the tunnels.
46:00
SPEAKER_02: You're part of the conspiracy.
46:02
SPEAKER_00: I wish I was.
46:04
SPEAKER_02: Tunnels and Blucifer.
46:07
They like to say that there's a tunnel taking you from Denver
46:11
down to Cheyenne
46:12
SPEAKER_00: Mountain in the Springs.
46:14
SPEAKER_00: And that's like how there's some secret tunnel connecting the two.
46:18
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, it is so enormous.
46:20
SPEAKER_00: There's not.
46:21
No.
46:22
SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
46:24
SPEAKER_00: I've been in NORAD, too, and there was no tunnel connecting it.
46:27
SPEAKER_02: I would love to get in NORAD.
46:29
SPEAKER_02: NORAD, but I'm sure that was very interesting.
46:31
SPEAKER_00: It was amazingly interesting.
46:33
SPEAKER_00: At the time,
46:33
SPEAKER_00: I was the military liaison for our senator,
46:36
SPEAKER_00: so I got to go and I got to sit on the Starbridge.
46:40
SPEAKER_00: It was really neat.
46:41
SPEAKER_02: All right.
46:43
SPEAKER_02: Well, I got to go.
46:44
SPEAKER_02: I just got to call.
46:45
SPEAKER_02: I got to answer.
46:47
SPEAKER_00: We may have something here.
46:50
SPEAKER_00: No, that was good.
46:52
SPEAKER_00: All right.
46:53
SPEAKER_02: All right.
46:53
SPEAKER_02: All right.
46:54
SPEAKER_02: Bye-bye.