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Jumping Fences with Tanner, Jared & Annaliese · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Live from Planet Blue in Malibu, California. This is the
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  Speaker 1: Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast with i R Radio. Wow. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what to say Ashley, all Right. So
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  Speaker 1: I sat when I first saw it, I was sitting
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  Speaker 1: in the press room of Women Till All and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I cannot wait a week to talk to
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  Speaker 1: people about this. I was like searching for anyone that
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  Speaker 1: would listen, But at the same time, I didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to spoil it for anyone because it was so good
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  Speaker 1: that I thought that somebody needed to experience at firsthand.
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  Speaker 1: So I literally just went around for an entire week
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  Speaker 1: being like, wait, do you guys see this? It is
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  Speaker 1: the most dramatic episode you are ever going to see.
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  Speaker 1: And I also feel so bad being like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: how good? How dramatic? Right because Colton is heartbroken? I
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  Speaker 1: was like, while watching it, so sad after frenzied. You know, So, okay,
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  Speaker 1: everybody out there listening right now, you just heard Ashley
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  Speaker 1: explode with excitement. Because I'll be honest, and in the
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  Speaker 1: week that she's seen that, she's she hasn't caught me
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  Speaker 1: up on it. She hasn't caught anybody up on it.
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  Speaker 1: She just wants to talk about it so bad, and
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  Speaker 1: we're here tonight to do it. We're up here in
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  Speaker 1: Malibu at a live podcast. If you hear some background noise,
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  Speaker 1: that's about I don't know, what do you think? Four people, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: four hundred fans out here just celebrating with us, loving
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  Speaker 1: Colton's last one of his last episodes of this season,
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  Speaker 1: and it did not disappoint. So we're gonna jump right
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  Speaker 1: into it. We're gonna start out with the first part
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  Speaker 1: of the date Portugal did not disappoint, and we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: start with Tasha. We can't forget about Tasha. She's still here. Okay, Well,
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  Speaker 1: actually this wasn't the most exciting episode ever because Tasia's
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  Speaker 1: part waited down. I mean, I agree, it was almost
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  Speaker 1: the first. It had to be there because if it
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  Speaker 1: was just Cassie the whole time, I would have exploded
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  Speaker 1: with anticipation and anxiety. I know, well, I know, but
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  Speaker 1: you I think they had to stretch out Tatia's part.
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  Speaker 1: Think they didn't have the handah ge date, so like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, well it's pretty much gonna be I kind
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  Speaker 1: of agree. I wish there would have been more. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like they cut out some stuff with Cassie. I
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  Speaker 1: wish we would have got more dialogue with her about
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  Speaker 1: where she was coming from internally, because here's the question.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna get into it later with a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: people from Batchel Nation. I mean, we've got Tanner here,
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  Speaker 1: We've got Analyze here, We've got Jade, We've got Jared,
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  Speaker 1: We've got a ridiculous amount of bach Nation in the house. Today.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to him about this whole thing. I
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  Speaker 1: do feel like Cassie showed up to break up with
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  Speaker 1: Colton in way too good of spirits. Something was the thing. Ever,
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  Speaker 1: the way she turned up and was like smiley and
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  Speaker 1: she was going to have like some cute casual conversation,
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  Speaker 1: and then he kind of deliver it into it, and
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  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, she was like, oh wow,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know this is gonna come up so fast.
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  Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna have fun with you for
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  Speaker 1: a little bit longer before leaving. I have two questions
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  Speaker 1: if you're gonna address Tasia, because we started so we
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  Speaker 1: might as well go into order. One. I want to
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  Speaker 1: know what both of you thought about the very aggressive
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  Speaker 1: sexual innuendo she was putting out because I've never noticed
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  Speaker 1: that before, So I thought, is this because of the
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  Speaker 1: fantasy suite? What's going on? So when I hear your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts on that, I have thought. And Two, it was
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  Speaker 1: so obvious when we saw them eating breakfast that she
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  Speaker 1: was done. It was like, okay, okay, yeah, you're done.
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  Speaker 1: She did not really like him after that, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what happened. I think she felt rejected. This
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  Speaker 1: is just my theory. I think she really thought she
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  Speaker 1: might be his horse that night, and I think she
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  Speaker 1: tried and he turned her down because he was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh no, you're not my person. And then after that
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  Speaker 1: she was like, oh, well, this is obvious it's not me.
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  Speaker 1: And she probably just felt yea rejected and kind of weird,
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  Speaker 1: like when he was walking away, it was like I
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  Speaker 1: was afraid she was gonna start crying. It was like
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  Speaker 1: she knew yeah, oh yeah, I know. She didn't not go.
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  Speaker 1: But I also thought she was a little bit turned off,
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  Speaker 1: so I couldn't quite figure out what was going on.
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  Speaker 1: My theory since she was embarrassed, she was rejected, sexually
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  Speaker 1: turned down, turned down, um, But then I also thought
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  Speaker 1: that she just kind of didn't seem into him anymore,
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  Speaker 1: But maybe it was because she kind of just knew
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't under her. Actually, I don't know any other
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  Speaker 1: way to do this, but I'm putting on the spot
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  Speaker 1: here because coming from a background of virginity on this show, right,
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  Speaker 1: So you're Coulton, you're the lead. You He obviously knew
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  Speaker 1: at that point that Cassie was he he's going to participate.
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  Speaker 1: Why did he participate in the fantasy suit with Tassia
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  Speaker 1: at all? Because he's setting her up for an expectation
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  Speaker 1: of something that wasn't gonna happen. So just coming from
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  Speaker 1: a level of the pressure that she probably felt because
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  Speaker 1: she thought she might be Colton's first, she also thought
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  Speaker 1: she was probably going to be the one because he
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  Speaker 1: was spending the night with her. Why did Colton still
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  Speaker 1: decide to spend that night with her? God, that's a
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  Speaker 1: great question. I don't have to answer to him. We'll
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  Speaker 1: have to we'll have to talk to Calton. Well that
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  Speaker 1: we have to write that down as a question to
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  Speaker 1: talk to him about. I do think that he had
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  Speaker 1: the intention to sleep with Cassie, though I thought that
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  Speaker 1: was gonna be like his way of telling Cassie without well,
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  Speaker 1: he probably would have told her in the privacy of
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  Speaker 1: the room without cameras that she was the one, But
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  Speaker 1: I think he was going to reaffirm that by having
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  Speaker 1: her be his first. I think he was totally prepared
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  Speaker 1: that night going into it with Cassie. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: why he decided to with Tasia. The pressure that just
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  Speaker 1: I wonder, and we're gonna keep bouncing back to Cassie
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  Speaker 1: in this and I feel like we're gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: in this episode because that scenario with Colton and Cassie
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  Speaker 1: was so captivating and polarizing that we can't talk about
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  Speaker 1: Tassia or any of the rest of the episode without
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  Speaker 1: comparing it and keep bringing it back to it because
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  Speaker 1: it's so pivotal in the whole experience. Mean, we have
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  Speaker 1: to remember here, we only saw two women during the
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  Speaker 1: whole episode, and they took up the entirety of it,
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  Speaker 1: two hours of it. So, Ben, I have a question
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  Speaker 1: for you as a man, and maybe you could pretend
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  Speaker 1: you are a virgin man with Tatia's I don't think
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  Speaker 1: she was aggressive, but she was very sexually forward with
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  Speaker 1: the oh is my boob slipping out? Would that have
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  Speaker 1: made you nervous as a virgin man. I wonder if
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  Speaker 1: that made Colton feel nervous, I think at this point,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't I have a hard time speaking for
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  Speaker 1: Colton in this, but just from the things he said
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  Speaker 1: on the show and how much he is ready, so
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  Speaker 1: I will say he's he's insinuated that he is ready,
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  Speaker 1: and he hasn't said it's for his wife, for somebody
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  Speaker 1: in luck that he is exploding with excitement at the
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  Speaker 1: idea of losing this thing. So would it make me
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  Speaker 1: nervous as a virgin man or a man to have
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  Speaker 1: somebody that I cared about sitting across the table from
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  Speaker 1: me and making his innu windows. I think it would
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  Speaker 1: make me nervous if I knew she wasn't the one. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: exactly what I was gonna say, if I flipped it
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  Speaker 1: on myself, Um, if I was in his situation going
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  Speaker 1: to a fantasy suite, I would feel very uncomfortable. If
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  Speaker 1: somebody was in situating that we were going to have
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  Speaker 1: sex even though we basically I knew that I would
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  Speaker 1: never do that with that person, you know, and then
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  Speaker 1: they were like giving these induendos. I would be like,
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  Speaker 1: this is this is so gross. I'm like actually turned
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  Speaker 1: off right now, Like now I really don't know if
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  Speaker 1: I want to go to the fantasis. Like, yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: would have been good if it was Cassie because he
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  Speaker 1: would have been like, Okay, I'm feeling great, but when
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  Speaker 1: he probably had known it wasn't gonna be Tasia, so
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  Speaker 1: then it got weird. I don't know when they were
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  Speaker 1: eating the apricots all of it, I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: feel weird. Okay. It's kind of like if I were
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  Speaker 1: to take this into like a kiss scenario, even say,
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  Speaker 1: like you're having multiple people get into you and you
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  Speaker 1: just keep comparing everybody to the one person that you
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  Speaker 1: really love, everybody else will gross you out, even if
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  Speaker 1: they're not a gross person. Obviously they're not a gross person.
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  Speaker 1: When I say the term gross out, it means like,
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  Speaker 1: I feel turned off by you, but it's I'm only
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  Speaker 1: turned off by you because I like somebody else so
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  Speaker 1: much more. Sorry, it was so hard for me to
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  Speaker 1: articulate that, but that's really I think it did a
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  Speaker 1: great job, you spot. I think everybody out there could
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  Speaker 1: relate with that comment. Is that somebody if you love
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  Speaker 1: somebody and you're you're kissing them, or you're physical with them.
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  Speaker 1: There's really nothing that's gonna gross you out about them.
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  Speaker 1: There's gonna be moments that you laugh and you know,
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  Speaker 1: they maybe smell funny or whatever, but you're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: over it so fast. But if there's anybody, even if
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  Speaker 1: they're beautiful, and even if you have a connection with them,
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  Speaker 1: and even if you've been dating them that you're trying
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  Speaker 1: to compare to it, it's gonna fall. Yeah. So not
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  Speaker 1: not gross, like they're a gross person. You just feel
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  Speaker 1: uneasy and uncomfortable with them because you're like, oh, but
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  Speaker 1: you're not the person that I'm thinking of, You're not
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  Speaker 1: the person I'm in love with. This is the week
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  Speaker 1: for everybody. They're listening, and we're gonna jump in. We've
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  Speaker 1: got really excited, as you can tell, kind of just
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  Speaker 1: like diving in. We couldn't wait to get this podcast
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  Speaker 1: turned on to start talking about this episode. We're gonna
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  Speaker 1: slow down in a second and kind of break it
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  Speaker 1: down like we usually do, but we just had to
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  Speaker 1: get all this spit out there really quick. Here here's
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  Speaker 1: the truth though I remember this this this week during
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  Speaker 1: the Bachelor, you almost at this point feel like you're
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  Speaker 1: cheating on the person you love, because at this point
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  Speaker 1: I knew that I could not live my life without Lauren. Now.
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  Speaker 1: Granted I feel differently now, but that's what I felt then.
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  Speaker 1: And then you had Jojo there, who I loved, and
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  Speaker 1: I told her that because I did, but I knew
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  Speaker 1: that it wasn't compared to how I felt about Lauren.
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  Speaker 1: And then you had Kayleb, and Kayla was there who
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  Speaker 1: I cared so much about, and I didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: say goodbye to you, and I couldn't imagine saying goodbye
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  Speaker 1: to her because of weeks and weeks and weeks of
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  Speaker 1: building this relationship. But ultimately, when you're sitting on a
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  Speaker 1: date with anybody else that they don't compare to the
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  Speaker 1: person that you want to spend your life with, you
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  Speaker 1: feel like you're cheating on them. And this is the
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  Speaker 1: week that it hit me that this feels so weird.
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  Speaker 1: I can't keep doing this. I'm breaking down. There's somebody,
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  Speaker 1: there's somebody in their hotel room right now that I
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  Speaker 1: care so much about that I want to build a
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  Speaker 1: life with, or try to build a life with. Why
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  Speaker 1: I'm on a date kissing another person and I can't
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  Speaker 1: stop doing it because it's a part of the format
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  Speaker 1: of the show. And this is where the show no
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  Speaker 1: longer became fun to me this week. So you think
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  Speaker 1: that you like kiss people because you felt like almost
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  Speaker 1: forced because the format, not the format as much of
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  Speaker 1: how do you tell somebody that you have such a
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  Speaker 1: deep relationship with that is your girlfriend? Still? Right, it's
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: always find it weird when they referred to girlfriends and
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  Speaker 1: boyfriends on the show. But okay, say the last final
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  Speaker 1: three at that point that you do feel like it's
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  Speaker 1: your girlfriend, you care so much about them, and you
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  Speaker 1: haven't broken up with them yet because you you you
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  Speaker 1: still are uncertain your head and you're still confused. This
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  Speaker 1: is where the show really gets weird because you do
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  Speaker 1: feel like you have such a real relationship, but you're
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  Speaker 1: kissing them all but yeah, you're gonna propose to one
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  Speaker 1: of them and you just can't stop doing it. Were
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  Speaker 1: you kissing somebody thinking about Lauren during that phase, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: Lauren would always be up in the back of my head,
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  Speaker 1: like she won't be okay with this, She wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: okay with this, She shouldn't be okay with this. But right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, just like the show does a great job back.
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  Speaker 1: You have to keep an open mind to the end.
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  Speaker 1: What if something were to happen in the last two
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  Speaker 1: weeks that's gonna ruin it all. I mean, you've seen
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  Speaker 1: it with We saw the Desert, and we saw it
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  Speaker 1: with Colton during this episode where if he doesn't keep
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  Speaker 1: week's episode of Hometown, because we got two hundred emails,
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  Speaker 1: literally two emails about buttering your bread, and I'm not
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  Speaker 1: of buttering bread. We had over two emails, which makes
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  Speaker 1: it the second most emailed topic of all time. During
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: this podcast, we're gonna get trying to get ahold of
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Amy from the episode here at some point. But if
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: we don't, just no team that if you butter your
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: bread the right way or not, you're still somebody we love.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: And our next guest is somebody that we all love very,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: very dearly. I would have paid to have dinner with
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: him to night. Hanard Tolbert, Welcome to the almost famous podcast.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: I'd like to butter your bread? Being from Kansas City,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: did you know the proper way to butter bread? It's
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: not that's the Midwest, that's off the South. But oh no,
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: we just attack our bread. There's no no right or
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: wrong way. Good Okay, I think I want to draw
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: this topic out a little bit longer because it seems
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: super intriguing. How many pieces of bread or how many
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: roles do you eat typically when it's offered for free
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: at a dinner. Oh, I'll get completely full because I'm
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: so picky. I usually don't even like what I'm ordering,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: so I really try to go for a good four
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: or five pieces of rolls before. It doesn't look like
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: a type of guy that eats out of bread. No,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: he's a little more cut up than me. Carbs aren't
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: good for that, so we know dairy makes some fart though. Um,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: that is true. That's a good point. Uh. You know,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Tanner Tilber is one of those guys that, uh made
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: me just feel at home during my time on the
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Bachelor atte He has continued to be a captivating figure
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: within Batchel Nation by getting married from Paradise, being one
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: of the love stories that we celebrate on this podcast
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: along with Jared and Ashley and Tanner. The reason we
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: brought you on the show today is because you've always
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: been a massive fan of The Bachelor. That's true. I
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: was a fanboy and I kind of knew everything. I
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: had a strategy going in. Maybe that's why I worked out,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: just because I've been researching it for so many years,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: So I guess it worked out for me. Yeah. So, Tanner,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: that being said, was this the most dramatic episode you've
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: ever seen? Since you've seen so many, I think it
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: has to be. I mean there's been other times where
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: like things have gone haywire towards the end, but nothing
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: like this, I don't think. So. There are two other
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: times where I thought, maybe the quote winner is going
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: to watch this back and like just not be okay
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: with it, right if it's somebody else, I'm being so confused. Now.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: There are two other times in Bachelor history that I
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: felt like there was a breakup before the final rows
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: that was this dramatic. It was Peter and Rachel, which
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I think was a little hand for TV because Rachel
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: was like, no, Brian knew all along, and then uh
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: does and Brooks. So with Dezen Brooks, I thought, how
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: is she going to marry somebody in the end of this?
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: How can she get proposed? It right? That one? So
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: consolation prizes yes, And I know they're happily married with
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: kids and I hope that they're not listening and mad
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: at me for saying that, but it really felt that way.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: It was a way it was edited. We're just gonna
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: give him that it was. It was edited. But that's
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: why I bring this up because at this point there's
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: no way that Colton can pick another one of these girls.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Cannot Hell. I mean, how could they have if they
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: watched this back, their relationship would just end right now.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: I have Actually I talked to Dez and Chris and
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was edited to look like that.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I honestly think she loved Brooks. She was sold out
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: on Brooks, and then once Brooks left. The story I
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: get from her is that she looked around her and said, wait,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: but I have a guy here that is everything I've
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: never like dated and I've dated guys that I've never
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: got along with, and this guy really cares about me,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: and he's he sat with me through this and we're
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: gonna make this thing work. And look at him now.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's the same scenario for Colton, though.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: It's it feels too heavy. It feels it felt like
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: his heart was already so sold out, right, I mean
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: his heart was so sold out, Tanner, he jumped a fence.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: So the question, first question I have for you is
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: during your time in the Bachelor or during Paradise. I
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: know Paradise went well for you. Could you have ever
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: imagined quitting the show, like just running away from the show,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: like leave me, going away from the crew, going outside
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: of the bubble the Bachelor? I mean, definitely not on
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: the Bachelorette because I obviously didn't have that big of
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: a connection with Caitlin. But I mean, I'm Paradise. Maybe
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: towards the very end, if you're just so mad at
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: how something shook out, But but probably not. I mean,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I don't think I would have ever gone that far.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, do you were you were more, I mean,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: you were the lead. So was there ever a moment
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: where you were just like, screw this, I'm out. No,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: because here's my theory, you actually never quit the show.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: So I don't know what Coulton was trying to accomplish.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Because once you start the show, no matter what, the
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: show is gonna get what they want out of it.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: If you put the show terrific, especially at that point,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: it's like they get you gave him enough material exactly.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: It's not like a week one where they canna say, hey,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: scratch this, let's bring in someone else and reshoot this thing.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, they were pot committed in Colton at this point,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: but I think he I think he was ready to quit.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I think in that moment he was saying, screw it.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: They can have you know, the money back. They can
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: figure it out in their own way. Um, well, he
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: ran away without his passport, so we knew he kind
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: of go back to Yeah, he knew somebody was gonna
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: be chasing after him. He could he could have just
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: lived in the you know, Portugal jungle for the next
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: couple of years. Fantastic. Okay, so let's slow down for
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: a second, because we we really got to give Tasha
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: the justice that it deserves. Um, we were just talking
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: a little bit ago. You know, Tasha is in the
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Fantasy suitet Colton schooses to go to the Fantasy Sweet
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: with her. That's one of the things this season, you know,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: let's let's just be question the questions that we're supposed
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: to be. Why did Colton do you think, choose to
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: do the Fantasy Sweet with Tassha when his heart was
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: so so sold out on Cassie. Wow, that's a good question,
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: especially with the whole virgin thing. And yeah, there's no
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: reason he can't be like, oh, I'm gonna sleep with
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: her just to see how it is for my last
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: time time. I don't think I don't think he had
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: any intention of getting physical with her, though I think
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: it was I think he was playing ball with the
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: with the show. I think that was the structure of
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: the show. Obviously, that's what you do. And I think
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: he probably honestly didn't even want to. I think he
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: probably thought it was Cassie. But at that point it
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: was just like, all right, I'll play your game, let's go.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: That's my gun. So many of us have told him,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: don't worry, you don't actually have to sleep together the
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: fantasy this week. I bet you less than fifty percent
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: of fantasy suits actually include sex. I would agree with that,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: especially his, you know, but it is interesting to me
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: because for as much as we want to say he's
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: playing ball, and so much as you want to say
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: it's it's sit fitting in the format, we we have
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: to give credit where credits to. He could have put
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: his foot down and said, I'm not doing it, like
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to that fantasy suite. I'm gonna break
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: up with their right here during the day, and they
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: would have had to fall along with that storyline. They
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: would have had to follow where that plays out. But
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: he didn't, so he went to the fantasy suit with Tasha.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Tasha seems confused. She also it's very clear that she
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: knows after that that she's probably not going to be around.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: You could tell the morning after. I mean, her whole
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: tone changed. She she looked like someone that got shut down.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think she probably wanted to, you know,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: take it to the next level per se, but I
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: think he did not like it kind of felt like
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: to me that like your daughter is walking right behind you.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: By the way, she's beautiful, hiam me. Um, it kind
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: of when they were looking at each other next morning,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: it felt like a little bit of weird guilt, like
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: oh no, like it was so awkward and like hard
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: to watch. It was like, uh, they don't want to
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: be in that same room they think about nuts. She
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: was like, Oh, I don't like nuts, and I thought
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: it meant like way more somebody's nuts. But then he
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: before going into the fantasy so said like, I'm a virgin,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: but I've done pretty much everything else. What does that mean?
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Like or yeah, that's what I'm assuming. Cold has never
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: felt younger to me than when that than that segment
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: was like, you know, I've done everything, like I've had
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: sex before with a girl. He's never felt more relatable
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: to me because I dropped that line so many times
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I've done this that I don't know that innocent that
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: was that It's just like a really awkward, awkward segment, Tanner,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: During your time on on these shows, is it hard
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: for you to get physical like during the shows like this,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: is there an element during it? Like fantasy sweeks to
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: me is always weird because the door gets closed, there's
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: this connotation what's going on behind the scenes, Like is
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: that awkward for you? Do you get used to that
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: or do you think Colton is watching this back this
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: week and going, this moment with Tasha is gonna haunt
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: me forever. It feels so awkward. I'm right, No, I
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: think it's definitely awkward. I mean to do that. I
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: mean in Paradise, the bed we slept in had a
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: camera in front of it, so it's a little different
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: from when I'm used to there was legit camera staring
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: down on our bed until we got to the overnight
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: day Tanner, this is like so sad, and we're totally
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: bringing the mood down. But you guys came out this
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: week about how you actually got pregnant in the fantasy suite,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: your only fantasy suite, and that Jared Jade miscarried a
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: couple of months later. Do not know I just said, Jared, Um,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: he's on your mind a lot. I mean yeah, I
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: mean so obviously we we kind of know what it's
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: like you have sex on the show. I was just
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: talking about how so in the house and in the
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Paradise House, Um, at the resort, the camera is on
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: your bed at all times, up in the boom boom
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: room or whatever you want to call it. So we
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: you know, we just did some heavy petting in there
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: and nothing too serious. But it was actually on our
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: overnight day in Tequila. Um, it was like our one
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: on one day, and that was the first time that
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Jade and I had sex. The cameras were actually gone
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: this time. They're like, all right, let's let's do it.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: And obviously, you know, thereafter that ensued in the pregnancy.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: So it was a crazy whirlwind after the show. Jade
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: was actually supposed to move to Nashville, if you remember.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I remember, we were gonna do the long distance thing
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: for you know, six months, a year, whatever it was,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: and just try to make the relationship work. But as
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: soon as we found this out, we're like, wow, okay,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: that's obviously a real life thing. It's serious. Now let's
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: let's make let's just jump in, move in with me,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna have a baby. We're gonna we're gonna
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: make this work. Um. And shortly there after the miscarriage happened, unfortunately. Um.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: But it's such a whirlwind of emotions because I mean,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: you guys have both been there. After the show, after
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: you're after you're with someone, there's so many things going
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: on in so many it's like the public opinions of
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: you and outside influences and all that. So it was
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: just I almost didn't even like grieve it or think
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: about it because I was just trying to be strong
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: for Jade and figure out what the hell we were like,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: what was what was even going on in our lives.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Because you guys think you would have gotten married that January,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I don't, well, I mean, if if Jade was pregnant,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: I know she was, I mean, like, I know, the
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: miscarriage happened, and September he got pregnant and pregnant in June,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: and then maybe it was like August September. I'm not
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: sure that. I mean, because we got married on TV obviously,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure the Bachelor would have like backed us
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: for a wedding, you know, I don't know. I mean,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the sting. I think they celebrate
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: you too so well, And I think this is where
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: for me and what You're gonna take a pause away
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: from Colton season for a second, because both of your
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: lives and it's it's the coolest part of the show
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: to me. It's also the part that sometimes doesn't get
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: seen or felt, is the show and the experiences on
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: the show drastically affect real lives. Like we can watch
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: this and we can blame it on editing. We can say, oh,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Colton jumped a fence and how crazy is that? And
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: how weird is that? And wild is that? But ultimately,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: everything happening on Colton season is going to affect his
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: life in a real way. Nothing speaks to that more
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: than your situation. Yeah, I mean as a fan, as
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: a viewer, I mean, you can put kawn or laugh
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: at this inconvenient thing happening or even a sad thing
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: happening while it's on TV, because it's just a moment
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: in time on TV. But a lot of these decisions
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: that we all make, and the decisions Colton is making
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: right now very well could affect him forever. I mean, obviously,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: my decisions in the fantasy so we had a huge
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: impact on on my on my life. Um and luckily
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: for me, I think that brought Jay Night closer together
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: and helped our relationship. UM. But there's so many different
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: turns that could take Tanna, I want to ask you
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: to stick around for a second and talk about, uh,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: the impact that would happen if Colton were to lose
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: his virginity on the show, because we still don't know
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: if it happens or not and how that would affect
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: him later on. Actually want to ask you the same question,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: but before do that, Uh, Ashley, your skins looking really
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: fantastic right now, it's like insane. Any of it have
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: to do with bio clarity. Oh maybe maybe it does, Okay,
• 28:56
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  Speaker 1: Tanner Tilbert, the most adult adult I've I've ever met.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: He has a child, a child in the way, and
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: a beautiful wife. Tanner, my question to you is, we
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: don't know if it happens yet. We don't know if
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Coulton comes back. Because of your history on the show
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: and because of how real this show has been for
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: you in a lot of ways. If Colton were to
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: lose his virginity on the show, is that a good move,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: bad move? Or are you indifferent about it? Man? I
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: think it's a bad move. I think if if you've
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: waited this long, I think if you succumbed to it
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: on the show, I think you're just giving into the
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: pressures of the show it. I would wait. If I
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: was Colton, I hope I hope he does. They can
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: do it right after the show if they want to,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: But I don't want them to feel that added pressure
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: because being a contest on the show, I think you
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: can sometimes feel that added pressure. Actually, what do you
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: think I mean? So here's the day we on this podcast.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: We purposely tried to stay away from talking too much
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: about the virginity topic. It's just not it hasn't been
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: that interesting to us that the interesting part is Colton's relationships.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: But now you know it's fantasy Stuent, we've got to
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: talk about it. What do you think that the pressure
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: of that is felt by Colton and the women? I
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: feel like Colton actually isn't feeling a lot of pressure
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: when it comes to like having sex with the right person.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I think that he planned on doing
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: it with Cassie and the fantasy suite because he was
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: just ready and wanting to do it with her, and
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: he was like, this is the one than I want
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: to be with right now and off the show. So
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think he was actually putting that much pressure
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: on himself. And I don't think like the public is
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: even expecting him to lose it in a fantasy suite.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think the public. Actually, this is a good
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: time to call it less nurse um please email us
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: at ben In Ashley, I heart media dot com with
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: your opinions. Do you care? I mean, do you care
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: if Polton loses virginity on this show or not? Is
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: that actually a storyline that we are invested into? Because
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: for us, I think on this podcast, we are more
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: invested and to what how this plays out for Colton
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: and and whatever woman he chooses. Yeah, it's it's the
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: most important thing. Tandar Tilbert, you're the man. I really
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: appreciate you, buddy. How's life? How are you? It's better
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: now that I'm seeing you, buddy. It's been here. It's
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: been a long time, and I can't wait to hang
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: out the night. But hey, thanks for coming on the podcast,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: thanks for having us. The uh as we say about
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: a Tanner Tilbert, We're gonna roll right in to Jared Haben.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Jared Haben has fired up about Cassie. The reason he's
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: coming on because he's so passionate, So honestly, as we
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: passed the mike to Jared here, Jared, do you know
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Ashley my co host, Ashley, It's very nice to meet
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: you on Jared. Can I just say that this is
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: how this this is why I just called Jared in
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: to talk on the podcast because today he will come
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Ben now Apple, and he goes. I just rewatch not
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: only the breakup scene, but I went back in old
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: episodes to pick apart the dialogue to see just how
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: much of a liar Cassie has been. I didn't say
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: how much of a liar, Jared take it away. So
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: you know how you just get very invested in certain things,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: And so I was watching the episode, I became very
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: invested in what happened between Cassie and Colton. And then
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: it just reminded me a couple of an episode a
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks earlier where Cassie's character was being in
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: question and she pushed it to the side and Kerpa,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: who's actually here tonight, It was questioning whether Cassie was
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: ready to be engaged. She obviously denied it at the time,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: and then here we are two weeks later and Cassie
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: saying she's not ready to get engaged Colton. Not only
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: is she not ready to get engaged Colton, she's not
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: even ready to be with Colton. So I was a
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: little infuriating watching that. I do feel bad because I
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: feel like Cassie might get a lot of crap this week,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: like her feelings aren't strong enough to even date him.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Isn't that really sad? Like the saddest And here's the
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: thing her, The whole thing about her dad was there's
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: not enough time, right. I like Colton seems like a
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: good guy, there's no red flags, but you're not ready
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: to get engaged with this guy in two weeks. And
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: so she went to that night saying, Okay, I'm not
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: ready to get engaged. I'm gonna leave. And Colton loves
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: her so much he was telling her we don't need
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: to get engaged. There's no time stamp. I just want
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: to be with you. I want to work through this
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: and see if we can get to where I think
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: we can get to. And Cassie was like, no, Cassie,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: it was like, oh crap. So my whole excuse for
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: this was that one my dad doesn't feel comfortable too.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not ready to get engaged either. My dad and
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: I are on the same page no engagement. She thought
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: that was her ultimate cop out, but then Calton was like, oh,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: we don't have to get engaged, and she had no
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: excuses left she has to do. She had to just admit, like,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm ever going to get there
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: ever with you, Ben, what are your thoughts on this
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: whole Cassie situation, you know, So let's backtrack a little
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: bit because we haven't broke it down fully. So what's
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: happening in the episode is she leaves Colton goes on
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: this date with Cassie. It leads to the obviously the
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: one of the most historic conversations in bachelor history, where
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: the two of them are talking and he's saying I
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: love you and she's saying I can't be there for you,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: and that's really where we end up, and this is
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: where we're starting this conversation out at. Here's my theory,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Cassie's just not that into him, and as a result,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: that's not about She's not wrong for that, we're not
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: for time out. She should have told him maybe a
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: week ago, she told her, should have told two weeks ago.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: But who knows that if she was ready or not,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: I for it had hit her or not until everything
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: was good in this episode, right until he says, my dad,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: your dad didn't give me approval, and then she goes,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: my dad agrees with probably the same thing. I'm thinking
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I'm not ready, this isn't looking right. I'm freaking out.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: My dad's not giving you approval. My dad means a
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: lot to me. And she starts getting her own head.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: So that's where I think in her mind, she says,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I'm done, like, this isn't gonna work no matter what,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: this isn't the right thing. So I'm not blaming her
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: for wanting to get out, it's how she did it.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: She still danced around the subject so much that even
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: when they sit down, sat down, she said, she didn't
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: just tell him, Hey, Colton, I'm sorry, I'm not that
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: into you, like this is gonna work. She sat down
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: afterwards at that night and goes, yes, this day was perfect.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: It was so much fun with you and he she
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: let him feel her again, and that's where my problem lies. See,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: my problem also lies within the past few weeks of
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: what happened with Cassie, because if you remember the episode
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: that Colton approached her and when she was getting questioned
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: about whether she was here for the right reasons, she
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: told Colton that if it wasn't for him, she wouldn't
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: be here. She sees the future with him, she sees
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: potential with him, good point, and so that's pretty frustrating
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: because well, how how could it possibly have changed so
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: much from that point where you see potential with Colton too,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Now you're not even willing to fight for it because
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: he Colton is here saying I love you. We don't
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: need to get engaged. I want to work on things
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: with you, and Cassie's just keeps repeating I don't want
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: to be with you. I think it was just I
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: don't know. I think she took it to top three
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: because she wanted to be the Bachelor, and the Bachelor
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: is so often top three. I think Cassie probably just
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: wasn't thinking your head. And I don't blame her. She's
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: twenty three years old. I I honestly don't blame her.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: She's young, she's probably she's not really um she's experienced
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: probably when the relationships, uh, you know she I think
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: she said she had one boyfriend, so maybe she just
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: doesn't really know what love is. And I'm not bashing
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: her for that. But even watching that conversation between her
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: dad and her, it didn't seem as if it was
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: a father talking to a girl who hasn't really been
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: through a lot of relationship experience yet well, it's totally
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: not ready to get engaged. And there is this level
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: two when the Bachelor hat I looked back and when
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: the night that Jared got sent home, Uh, he was
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: four and I end up being three. But the night
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: you left, I remember, it hit my head an engagement
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: is pending. Am I ready? That's when it first hit me,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: because until then it was I'm dating this girl. I'm
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: figuring out if I like this girl. I don't know
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: how I feel about Caitlyn yet, I'm into it, but
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: is she my wife? And and as soon as you
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: walked out the door, I remember watching Jared leave and going,
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this is around the corner. Here we go,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: here we go. Am I ready? And that's the first
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: time I asked myself, I'm already? Who knows what she
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: was feeling? And when she started asking herself this question.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: So let's back to her. I have so many questions
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: for you. Now, if you got the top two, would
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: you have opposed her? I don't think there yet. No,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I probably wasn't. Honestly, I don't think I was ready
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: to propose to Caitlin. But I think I would have
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: told her Hey, like I'm not there yet, but I
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: really care about you and I want to see if
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: this can work. But this, in this, in whatever the
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: formula here and the time from this, this didn't get
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: me to a place where I'm confident getting down on
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: one knee. But I'd love to see if this could
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: work afterwards, which is exactly what Caitlin or Colton was
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: telling Cassie. Hey, don't worry about the time frame, don't
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: worry about the engagement. I love you. And this is
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: the part that broke my heart. And I thought Colton
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: was so in the right here. He's begging all. What
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: he was really saying was Cassie, stay, there's no pressure
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: on us, Let's just see if we can figure it out.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Still said no, And that's where my heart really broke
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: as well, because you can understand what Cassie is going
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: through up until that point, because you're, like you said,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: there's confusion, it's fast. Her dad just showed up. What's
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: going on? Am I going to be engaged to this guy?
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: I'm twenty three? What's going to happen with my life?
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: But then he said, listen, don't put it Even Colton said,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: don't put a time stamp. On it because Cassie kept
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: saying two weeks, two weeks, and Colton said, don't worry
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: about two weeks. This is the rest of Like, this
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: could potentially be the rest of our lives, so let's
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: just take our time and see if it can. That's
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: what you rehearsed, Jared. She rehearsed the two weeks things.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: She had nothing else to say. But that's that's I
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: think where Ben and I are coming from. If Cassie
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: you got to just be honest with him at this
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: point and say I don't have those feelings for you.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Because she kept beating around the bush by saying I
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: don't think I can get there, and that brought the
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: question get there before two weeks or get there for
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: the rest of your life. She ended up meaning for
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: the rest of my life. It pained her to say,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: but she ended up basically saying that. So because none
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: of us have have watched the spoilers, none of us
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: know what's happened next. Is this relationship done? This Colton,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: come back and get her what happens? I mean, what
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: what's your theories here? Like? Is this relationship done? Because
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: this is where I'm gonna get really freaking confused. If
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: at the end of this he ends up with anybody
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: but Cassie, or if Cassie comes back into the picture,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Cassie's definitely well. If Cassie comes back from the picture,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: it will be Coulton going after her. It will not
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: be Cassie coming back, of course, and there's no way
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: he can go back to Tasian Hannah. Gee, I'm gonna
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: say the most hypocritical thing ever. I find the Cassie
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Colton relationship not extremely rootable right now because I think
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: that she kind of I just want Colton to be
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: with somebody. I don't want to say more deserving. I
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: don't like the more deserving. But like Cassie said, at
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: the end, you want somebody to You want Colton to
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: be with somebody who's as insanely in love with him
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: as he loves them. Yes, Colton is my care is
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: a sympathetic character for me here I am rooting for
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: his happiness that I don't think she likes him enough.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Now this is where the hippo hippop Christie comes in.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Jared and I went through this and I begged him
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: so many times to give me all the chances in
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: the world. He just needed more time that Like he
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: always Jared always was like, I don't see it, I
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: don't know, I can't do it. I can't do it.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: How many times did we like, we're like almost there,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: and then we and then we're like you cut it off,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: and we're almost there and you cut it off. Of course,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: the difference is that we developed such a strong friendship
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: over the course of three years that, you know, Colton
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: and Cassie just don't have that rapport or background. So
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: he's saying they could get there. We're we're they're pretty much.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: It's it's different, but they they're more relatable to us
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: getting off our first season in Paradise than what we
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: are now. I wonder if this goes down in history,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: and you both are fans of the show, you've watched
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: the show in previous seasons, does this go down in history,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: because I'm gonna argue that it doesn't as one of
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: the most brutal breakups in Bachelor history, doesn't. What do
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: you mean? I think you have Jake and Pevelka. I
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: think you have Desert. I think you have um, I
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: think Sean and came, Sean and Caitlin. I think you
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: have Ari and Becca. I think I don't even think
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: it's the worst breakup in the mess. Those are nasty,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: this is heartbreaking. I think they all have been heard.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: I think Becca. I think the split screen Becca and
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Ari is more heartbreaking and more hard to watch than this.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I do think Colton's fence jump will go down in
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: history is one of the most epic exits on the show. Ever.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I don't think this breakup will end up being that.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think we'll talk about the breakup. I come
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: from a totally different place because I think that I
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: relate to Colton so much in this moment of the
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: unrequited love and then you're thinking that you're almost there
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: with somebody, and then they cut it off just when
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: you think that it's going to happen, and then you
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: like do that whole like you're so tense, and then
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: you start shaking and you're like, this doom is not
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: happening to me. Ben does bring up an extually interesting point, though,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: because earlier in the day, Colton himself said I want
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: to be in love with Cassie. So how heartrenching could
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: this breakup have been when sixteen hours prior, Colton wasn't
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: even sure if he was in love with Cassie and
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Jared found some editing flaws or what we're going to
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: say is an editing law. It was pretty frustrating. I
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: don't think it's an editing flaw. I think it's where
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: his heart was at the It's his heart is not
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: in the same place as when he is at the end,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: and I think it hit him. As she was leaving,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Colton starts saying, oh, no, I do I do love
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: this woman. She's slipping through my fingers. Sixteen hours ago
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: during an interview, I was saying I want to fall
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: in love. I probably felt it internally, I wasn't ready
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: to admit it, and now I am because she's walking
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: out this door, and she the person I love, the
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: person I wanted to spend this evening with, is going
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: to exit the show. Maybe Calton got ahead of himself
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: because he was even saying that stuff before he knew
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: she was leaving. He was saying that he loves her,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: she was the one, and then it was building up
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: to that point. So I'm curious. Maybe Colton panicked, so
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: that could be an excuse if he did want to
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: go back to Tatian Hannah Gee. Maybe he could go
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: back to him and say, listen, I was kind of
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: losing it a little bit. I had strong feelings for Cassie.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: She was leaving I I was kind of lost in
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: the moment. Because if he goes back, say he goes
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: back to Hannah Gee and says that, do you think
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Hannah Ge would forgive him? He Colden had the power
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: in this moment to blow this whole format up. What
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: if he goes back to Tassia and Hannah Gee and goes,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: this is what just happened, and he tells him the
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: honest truth about Cassie, and he goes, we need three
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: more weeks. How amazing would be azing? What if he
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: did he and he could have held but it would
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: never work because he'd still be thinking of Cassie every
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: moment he was with the other two girls. He'd be
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: comparing them the entire time. Here's a deal, Ashley, Jared
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: and you once split apart, and Jared thought of you
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: ever since, and look at you now. Oh, I have
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: hope for them. Now you're going to take my last name. Hey, Jared,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: you're the man. We love you dearly. Thanks guys. One
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: of us more than the other, but I love you
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: a lot more obvious. Like alright, five guys, All right, well,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Jared and I have actually been using a lot of
• 46:58
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  Speaker 1: It does look nice because we used to use you know,
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• 48:35
  Speaker 1: in the episode, we have Colton UH and Cassie's breakup
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna move into the final part of this
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: episode maybe the one of the best pieces UH in
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: bachelor history, and we have Analyze, one of our favorite
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: guests on to help us break it down. Analyze, welcome
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: back to the podcast, Thanks for having me. So this
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: is we're out in the episode. Okay, Cassie and Colton
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: have just broken up. And Colton goes up to his
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: room and shuts the door, and this is what happens.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Colton opens up the door, he pushes a cameraman. He
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: walks down this stairs. Why do you have to push
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: the cameraman? Why? I mean, it wasn't the man, it
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: was the camera. Okay, just seems like dramatic, like why
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: do you put your forearm into the camera's face. But anyways,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: then he walks out. You hear just a beautiful moment
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: in Bachelor history. Somebody called Chris. Somebody called Chris, didn't
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: somebody called Chris, And here comes Chris Harrison after Colton
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: to save the day. Colton's Chris is fully dressed. He's
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: looking sharp and dapper, and you see Colton hop the fence.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Analyze in this moment during the show, what are you thinking, Um,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: I cannot do box jumps? How it was like he
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: was given a magical power through the feeling of frustration.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: I mean I want I really would love to just
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: have like to be with him in person while he
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: does that, like over and over. I just want to
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: watch his form and like see was it just adrenaline
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: that got him to do that or I feel like
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: by that weird expression I diseuse or was it or
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: I mean it's just like sheer athleticism. That's that's what
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: I think. I don't think anything else about, uh, like
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: what just happened with Cassie or anything. It's just all
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: about how that happened. We've actually got a clip, uh
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: from that moment on the episode. Let's pause a second,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: take a listen, Colt, he just jumped the fence. There
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: button that opens the gate, open the fence, guys, opened
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: the pen bo. I mean, wow, that's insane. You're right,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: you guys. If you watch Colton walk out and and
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: kind of like stand face to face with the gate,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: the gate is actually taller than he is, and Colton's
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: my height, the six four, and he just leaps it.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: He doesn't just leap, no struggle. My sister says, she's
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: never been more attractive to him. Really, it is like
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: that was such a sexy moment. I totally get that.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Like it is just I'm like in awe of that moment.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: I think that's why everyone has been waiting for this
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: moment and we're like, when is it happening. It's like
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: the Olympics of Bachelor right now, you know it was effortless.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: What do you think happens the two of you because
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: you've both done the show, You've you stayed within the
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: confines of the show. You live in that world, and
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: you exited in that world. What happens when he lands
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: on the other side of the gate and there's nobody.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: It's kind of feel like when the doors closed in
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: a fantasy suite. Yeah, it's I'm alone. It's so weird.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Did he rip his mic off? I think he must have.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: But my favorite line was Chris saying he jumped thet
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: I know, I know. I was talking to my mom
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: about it. I was like I saw on Instagram's like
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: you know clip of it and Chris Harrison swearing because
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: it was so Chris in my life, Like it's that's Chris,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: that's just him, but it's not where you see usually
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: as the host, Chris Harrison. I know, it was pretty
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: that that was also a pretty epic moment. So cool
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: do you think? Okay, here's my take on this though.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: So here's you see Chris yelling Colton Colton. You hear
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: dogs barking, and here's the thing you see all the producers.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: This is when you know the show is not prepared.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Is because you see all of the top producers, the
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: producers for Colton and the cast there as well, kind
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: of running after Colton here And was it the best
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: moment Chris Harrison ever as the host? How okay, not
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: only did he jump the f and fence, but Chris
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Harrison as the host pull off the best hosting gig
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: he's ever done at this moment. Well, I think we
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: all got a little high off the moment because we
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: see all the producers and we're like, oh my god,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: we love them. There they are and they have to
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: get involved because of like safety reasons. Yeah, not because
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: like it's like it's when you know, it's when you
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: feel like, man, they are your friends, they are like
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: your family. Like it's sort of but it's sort of
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: like the moment where if you get in a fight
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: and you run away from home when you're a kid
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: and you're like mom comes outside and it's like right,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's kind of I feel
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: like it's like the protective side of all of those people,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: like actually worried about him and concerned and all that.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: You know, it's like those are parents. They're trying to
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: help me. Yes, you're actually That's a great point and
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: one that I never thought of. You know, Coolton at
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: this point is probably far gone, he's ran away. But
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: for us as the viewer and the fans and past participants,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: it is that moment where we go they really care,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: like everything shut down. Yes, there is one camera there,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: it has to be there. I'm glad it was there.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: It was capturing it. But they really care, and you
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: don't see that. I mean you see them, you we
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: see them on the show caring, but as viewers we
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: don't get to see the producers in the behind the
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: scenes a lot. But it just shows when Colton jumps
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: the fence. Not only is Chris shocked, but you see
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: all the EPs there, you see the assistance and they're
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: going what do we do next? And how do we respond?
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: So it leads to this question, what do you think
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: happens next? I hope we get to see more search
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: because everybody loves breaking the fourth wall and it was
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: the fourth wall. It's like, yeah, literally breaking the fourth wall,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: and I think it'll be great if they just drag
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: it out for like two more minutes, trying to find him.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: I want on camera the scene in which they find him. Oh, totally,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: we have to get it. We're gonna get it. We're
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: gonna see the scene. I just got a quick and
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: at least I want to hear your perspective. We just
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: asked Jared and Tanner what what would have had to
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: happen for them to leave the show like Colton did,
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Like what would have had to happen on your experience
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: for you to just run away and just bolt? But
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: I've gotta just the thought in my head. It's probably
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: evil and it's not good, but I love it. What
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: if Colton doesn't like leap the fence, Like, what if
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: he just kind of gets stuck, Like he goes out there,
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: They're all screaming cool and cool and don't don't go.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: He's gonna jump the fence, and Colton like goes to jump,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: but he can't get over it when the doors opened. Yeah,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: so then he has to land and push the button.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: And it would have been like from some movie. I
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: feel like we've all seen that, like in a movie
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: or something, or they just like fall on the other side,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: doesn't make it. He just like doesn't make it, stops
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: pushing the button Chris catches up with him so much
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: better and at least anyways, that was just thought, what
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: has to happen for you during the show to run
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: away like Colton did? Oh? Man, I don't. I honestly,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess it's hard because I've only
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: been on the sort of tested side or whatever you
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: wanna call it um where if you want to leave,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: you leave, So being the lead to have to leave,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: like you can't really leave. I think that's why it
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: was like he didn't. He wasn't able to just say, hey, guys,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm gonna just like exit now. He the
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: only thing to probably going through his head at that
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: point was like I just gotta get out of here,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: and like I can't tell anyone I'm gonna get out
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: of here because they're not gonna let me go because
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: I'm the lead. So he's just like done, I'm done,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: I'm out. Does that make sense? It makes complete sense.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: And it's just tough. I mean it is. It shows
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: where Colton's head's at. It shows how hard this was
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: for him. And now this episode was great, but I
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: am so ready for the next episode too. Now we
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: have to have women tell all no, I don't leave
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: me in this suspense. Let's skip them and tell law
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: and just get to Colton being found Analyst. You're always
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: a pleasure to be on the podcast. Thank you so
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: much for coming on. There's a ton of people from
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: Bachelination in the room right now. I know they all
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: look up to you. Go spread some wisdom and some love,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: and at least you're one of the best. I think
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: what we just talked about with an at least properly
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: summarizes this episode right there. For as much as it
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: felt like happened, there wasn't a lot that actually happened.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: Right There was a Tassia overnight, the Tassia failed overnight,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: and we knowing that, and us all of us know
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: now knowing that Tasha is going home. We had the
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Cassie day leading up to the conversation about the dad
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: to Cassie trying to break up with Colton, not really
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: doing it, successfully, drawn out a lot longer than it
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: should have, and really just ending in the moment with
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: Colton jumping the fence. All of this made for one
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: of the best episodes and one of the hardest episodes,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: and and and Bachelor history. So before I pass it
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: to you, I want to just close my thoughts with this.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: It was one of the most entertaining. But as I
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: think about where Colton's heads at right now, and as
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: somebody that really likes Colton and and and I know
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: that hasn't been easy, and I know that Colton wanted
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: this to work and he wanted to be, you know,
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: a good guy for these women. UM is entertaining. This
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: episode was. I am very internested to see how it ends,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: because I don't know how it ends, and I'm worried
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: now because if Colton really felt like he needed to
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: run from the show, there's a deep, deep feeling of
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: sadness in his heart. And so what it's the crazy
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: part of the show. Typically what is the most sad
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: is often the most entertaining, and that's SUGG and that's
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: and that was this episode for me. I don't know
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: what happens with Cassie. I don't know what happens with
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: Hannah Gie or Tesha. But Ashley, I want to pass
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: it off to you now to summarize all everything we
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: talked about today with some great guests. UM, what were
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: your final thoughts on one of the most epic episodes
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: in Bachelor history. Yeah, that's kind of what I met
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: earlier in the episode when I said it was like,
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: not the most dramatic episode, it was truly like the
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: last It was truly the most dramatic thirty minutes of
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: an episode I've ever seen. Um. I do have this
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: weird internal struggle where I'm just like, how can I
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: be so living for this marama but then knowing the
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: person that it's happening to and being so genuinely sad
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: and having been in a situation I feel like similar
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: in the past, and having so much sympathy and empathy,
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: and You're just like, how am I doing this? At
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: the same time, somebody's hearts breaking and I have no
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: idea where it's going next week, and I have and
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: I am very interested to see if I even find
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: a potential relationship between he and Cassie to be something
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: that I will root for. That's a good point. Will
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: you root for the Cassie Colton relationship to be mended?
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: Are you rooting for Colton to be with somebody else?
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: Are you just hoping that Colton runs into the Portugal
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: jungle far away? Okay, honestly, I want him to be happy,
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: and if getting another chance with Cassie is going to
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: make him happy, then I want him to have another
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: chance with him. I am just concerned about her doing
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: it for the sake of appearances, because I feel like
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: she might just get back together with Colton just so
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: that like her images mended, and that's what I'm scared of.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: That's why I find it unroutable. But I do want
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: him to have an large chance with her. So Hey,
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