Latest / Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation / NFL Week 3 Cash Show | September 19, 2024 | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays and Process
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- 1:25Speaker 2: Any takeaways I guess from from week two or anything
- 1:28Speaker 2: like first look wise for week three Cash game wise
- 1:31Speaker 2: that you're kind of looking at.
- 1:33Speaker 3: Week two was very concentrated, similar to week one. Week
- 1:37Speaker 3: one pricing bent out forever. A lot of mispricing fell
- 1:40Speaker 3: on obvious plays. Week two with the rams injury stuff
- 1:43Speaker 3: with hook out Cooper Cup is too cheat now he's hurt,
- 1:47Speaker 3: but concentrated there running back position. There was no kind
- 1:50Speaker 3: of walker. Jordan Mason was still free. Just got people
- 1:53Speaker 3: on a lot of similar builds. You gotta win one
- 1:56Speaker 3: v ones two v two's. I got lucky. I did
- 1:59Speaker 3: so on DraftKings, I did not on Fandel It's a
- 2:02Speaker 3: two and zero DK start lucky week one and zero
- 2:04Speaker 3: and two Fandels start. Gotta see what's going on on
- 2:07Speaker 3: fandle but no sample size, a small I'll take it.
- 2:10Speaker 3: Looking at week three, well, Jordan Mason. I don't know
- 2:13Speaker 3: what DraftKings things is going on, but yeah, the dude
- 2:16Speaker 3: is good. The dude is getting a lot of work.
- 2:18Speaker 3: He is on a good team. He should not be
- 2:20Speaker 3: sixty two hundred. He should be eighty three hundred like
- 2:24Speaker 3: he is on Fandels. So Kenneth Walker big injury status.
- 2:30Speaker 3: He didn't practice today so or didn't practice yesterday. I
- 2:34Speaker 3: don't know if Actually I don't think he practiced today either. Yeah,
- 2:38Speaker 3: him and DK I believe about today. So if he's out,
- 2:42Speaker 3: Zach Charbonay becomes a very good play. Again, he got
- 2:45Speaker 3: all the work. If he's in charbon Ay not nearly
- 2:49Speaker 3: as good of a play. To countess. I probably want
- 2:51Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker in just so it makes his things up
- 2:54Speaker 3: a little bit. I think there's more options this week
- 2:57Speaker 3: than weeks one and two. Like I said, Jordan Mason
- 3:00Speaker 3: be a lock. If Kenneth the Walker's out, Charbonna is
- 3:03Speaker 3: more than likely a lock. But yeah, there's there's I
- 3:07Speaker 3: think options at multiple other positions. There's no clear like
- 3:10Speaker 3: you're playing a rich week one and cat or at
- 3:13Speaker 3: quarterback you're playing Ax in week two. So I'm excited
- 3:15Speaker 3: to go through positions.
- 3:17Speaker 2: Yeah, it seemed like last week there's definitely, you know,
- 3:20Speaker 2: three forward guys that you were definitely playing, and then
- 3:23Speaker 2: it came down to a few decisions.
- 3:25Speaker 1: This week, it is Thursday, so over a day earlier,
- 3:28Speaker 1: and maybe.
- 3:28Speaker 2: Stuff emerges, but it does seem like it's a little
- 3:31Speaker 2: more wide open. The Jordan Mason thing is very annoying.
- 3:34Speaker 2: Sixty two hundred, I mean, getting more work than just
- 3:37Speaker 2: about anybody in the NFL at the running back position,
- 3:41Speaker 2: and they whiffed last week, and they whiffed this week
- 3:44Speaker 2: in a big way. FanDuel got him up to eighty three,
- 3:46Speaker 2: I believe you said. And he's still going to be
- 3:49Speaker 2: very popular because the guy is, he's good, and he's
- 3:52Speaker 2: getting all the work and there's just not many guys
- 3:55Speaker 2: at the running back position that get all the work
- 3:58Speaker 2: that that Jordan Mason's getting passed, catching goal lines, getting everything.
- 4:02Speaker 1: So unfortunate.
- 4:03Speaker 2: I mean, that's a you know, free square for cash,
- 4:05Speaker 2: I mean, one less decision that needs to be made.
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- 5:39Speaker 2: I will start a quarterback position on DraftKings, and first look,
- 5:44Speaker 2: for me, it doesn't seem like there's an absolute must
- 5:48Speaker 2: standout play. I haven't sorted by value. Our top value
- 5:53Speaker 2: is coming up as Sam Darnold, Deshaun Watson, Bo Nicks.
- 5:59Speaker 1: Justin Fields.
- 6:00Speaker 2: I don't think I'm necessarily all that interested in really
- 6:03Speaker 2: any of those guys. So when that is the case,
- 6:05Speaker 2: I just go and kind of sort by projected points
- 6:08Speaker 2: and see what is who is showing up as the
- 6:11Speaker 2: highest projected guy. We have Lamar Jackson, he's seventy five hundred.
- 6:15Speaker 2: We have Jalen Hurts seventy three, Kyler Murray sixty nine,
- 6:18Speaker 2: c J. Stroud seventy one, Anthony Richardson sixty seven hundred.
- 6:24Speaker 2: Now a little more interested in some of these guys.
- 6:26Speaker 2: The one name that kind of stands out to me.
- 6:28Speaker 2: You know, if I was going to select one at
- 6:30Speaker 2: this point, I could make it work with everything else,
- 6:32Speaker 2: it would be probably Jalen Hurts at seventy three hundred.
- 6:36Speaker 2: Matchup against the Saints. Saints offense has moved the ball
- 6:39Speaker 2: quite easily through two weeks. Could see some points being
- 6:42Speaker 2: scored here. So Hurts is definitely a name that stands
- 6:45Speaker 2: out at first glance. I did want to see what's
- 6:49Speaker 2: the price tag on Baker Mayfield sixty three? I don't
- 6:52Speaker 2: hate that either, But if I have the money, I
- 6:55Speaker 2: kind of like Hurts. What are your thoughts here on
- 6:57Speaker 2: DraftKings for quarterback?
- 6:59Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. If I have the money, I
- 7:01Speaker 3: think I like Hurts Lamar too, Like if I had
- 7:04Speaker 3: the two hundred, I really do like the spot for Lamar.
- 7:07Speaker 3: Dallas defense has been Swiss cheese in a dome, but
- 7:11Speaker 3: Hurts is also in a dome. We have Kyler in
- 7:14Speaker 3: a dome.
- 7:15Speaker 1: We have c J.
- 7:16Speaker 3: Stroud in a dome, we have Sam Dark Like there's
- 7:18Speaker 3: a lot of dome games this week. But I do
- 7:21Speaker 3: think if you have the money, whether it's Lamar at
- 7:24Speaker 3: seven five versus Hurts, very very close. For me, no,
- 7:27Speaker 3: strong and lean would love to get both. If I
- 7:30Speaker 3: don't have that little savings down to Kyler, I mean, yeah,
- 7:33Speaker 3: you like to chirp them. You step took a little
- 7:35Speaker 3: step back on Monday saying he had a great game.
- 7:38Speaker 3: Now he gets your lions he has the rushing upside
- 7:41Speaker 3: as we know, one of the high or it is
- 7:43Speaker 3: the highest total on the slates. Detroit's gonna put up
- 7:46Speaker 3: some points, gonna force Kyler too, so I'm totally good
- 7:49Speaker 3: at Kyler at six ' nine as well. And then
- 7:51Speaker 3: I do think seven to five Lamar seven to three
- 7:54Speaker 3: hurts six ' nine Kyler like a rich at six seven.
- 7:57Speaker 3: I want to find the two hundred for Kyler though
- 8:01Speaker 3: this week there's some good place but if Kenneth Walker plays,
- 8:04Speaker 3: it's not like we have a bunch of low cheap
- 8:08Speaker 3: options that are pretty appealing. I think you're gonna need
- 8:11Speaker 3: mid tier some spend ups. So I do think saving
- 8:13Speaker 3: money at quarterback could be viable this week again, especially
- 8:17Speaker 3: if Kenneth Walker does play and Charbone is not there.
- 8:20Speaker 3: Even so with Sharbonay though, the two guys i'm looking at,
- 8:23Speaker 3: Sam darnal'll be at the top fifty five hundred. CJ.
- 8:26Speaker 3: Stroud a good offense with the Texans. They're gonna score points.
- 8:30Speaker 3: Minnesota's gonna have to throw the ball you expect it's
- 8:32Speaker 3: in a dome. He has the best receiver in the
- 8:34Speaker 3: league with him, He's looked good. I'm be fine with
- 8:37Speaker 3: Sam Donald at fifty five hundred, that's fourteen hundred dollars
- 8:41Speaker 3: difference from Kyler. That could be a big upgrade or
- 8:43Speaker 3: two at other positions. So I'm not eliminating cheap qvs
- 8:46Speaker 3: by any mean. The other guy I think would be
- 8:49Speaker 3: Geno Smith for me, you can throw Derek Carr in
- 8:51Speaker 3: there as well at fifty eight hundred, how well he's played.
- 8:56Speaker 3: But Gino, assuming Kenneth Walker's out, there's more dropbacks right there.
- 9:00Speaker 3: Dk coming off a monster game. The Dolphins awful on
- 9:04Speaker 3: bad on defense now with Skyler Thompson awful on offense,
- 9:08Speaker 3: which I guess is a little concern, like are they
- 9:10Speaker 3: just gonna pound the football if they can? I don't know, maybe,
- 9:13Speaker 3: but they're implied for twenty three points, which is solid.
- 9:17Speaker 3: I think Gino, Carr, Donold all three in the same
- 9:20Speaker 3: price range. Your TQBS Lamar hurts Kyler up top. But yeah,
- 9:25Speaker 3: quarterback's not gonna be the first spot that I'm plugging
- 9:27Speaker 3: in my lineup this week on either site. When we
- 9:29Speaker 3: get the fan to leave it, it's only us too,
- 9:34Speaker 3: so I can't just let you talk forever.
- 9:37Speaker 2: It's clearly I got a guy next door is getting
- 9:39Speaker 2: a tree cut down. So I don't know if you
- 9:40Speaker 2: guys can hear it, but the chainsaw's going crazy, so
- 9:42Speaker 2: it's gonna be a lot of muting for me when
- 9:45Speaker 2: you're talking.
- 9:45Speaker 3: It's ktty good though.
- 9:48Speaker 2: It's clearly a position that we're gonna have to wait
- 9:50Speaker 2: and see what sort of value that we have and
- 9:53Speaker 2: then come back and fill in. And we do have
- 9:55Speaker 2: viable options at different price points. But I don't think
- 9:57Speaker 2: there's like a guy that you absolutely you need to
- 10:00Speaker 2: play at the position. It's going to be one that
- 10:02Speaker 2: you're gonna have to see what you have and kind
- 10:05Speaker 2: of fill it out that way and then maybe mess
- 10:07Speaker 2: around with like your defense and quarterback to see what fits.
- 10:10Speaker 2: But pretty wide open. I think like he's alluded to
- 10:13Speaker 2: kind of the same story over on on FanDuel. If
- 10:17Speaker 2: you sort by value, you got Sam Darnold up here,
- 10:20Speaker 2: you have Justin Fields, bon Nicks, you have Mahomes, Kyler,
- 10:25Speaker 2: Murray at eighty three. So same thing. What's sort by
- 10:29Speaker 2: projected points and kind of see where we're at. We
- 10:32Speaker 2: have Mahomes as the top guy, Lamar Jackson, Hurts, Kyler,
- 10:37Speaker 2: Murray Stroud, and then Anthony Richardson I think if I'm
- 10:41Speaker 2: spending it's probably one of these running quarterbacks, Lamar Hurts
- 10:46Speaker 2: Murray on the cheap end. You know, maybe it's more
- 10:50Speaker 2: of those guys that you kind of talked about over
- 10:53Speaker 2: on drafting.
- 10:54Speaker 1: You know, dart Field is pretty cheap at sixty seven. Donald.
- 10:59Speaker 2: Ideally, I think probably want to spend here on one
- 11:01Speaker 2: of those running quarterbacks. They're more valuable on FanDuel as is.
- 11:05Speaker 2: That's probably my initial lean thoughts.
- 11:08Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree with you. I do think it's
- 11:10Speaker 3: probably one of the Hurts Kyler Murray's Lamar Jackson the world.
- 11:13Speaker 3: And the reason being is Derek Carr's seven to nine,
- 11:16Speaker 3: Kyler's eighty three. That's way less of a difference on
- 11:20Speaker 3: Fandel than on DK Genos seven to six, Kyler's eight three.
- 11:23Speaker 3: We're talking thousand plus on DK, we're talking less than
- 11:27Speaker 3: one thousand on Fandels. So and in addition, Fandel's already
- 11:31Speaker 3: way softer in pricing, Like even though Mason's eighty three hundred,
- 11:35Speaker 3: it's not hard to fit when we get to these
- 11:36Speaker 3: wide receiver positions, so many cheap, cheap options, we're gonna
- 11:40Speaker 3: get to a chain he's less than a k like
- 11:42Speaker 3: these prices. You can build an all star squad on
- 11:45Speaker 3: Fandel for the most part. When that's the case, you'd
- 11:48Speaker 3: rather spend the extra five hundred top grade to it.
- 11:51Speaker 3: Kyler hurts Lamar. Then I would take a shot on
- 11:54Speaker 3: the cars Genos of the world. So spend up. Yeah,
- 11:57Speaker 3: if you needed to save Darnald's seventy one is really cheap.
- 12:00Speaker 3: But again I just don't think whereas on DK I
- 12:03Speaker 3: could see that upgrade being big enough at running back
- 12:06Speaker 3: or receiver, I just don't see that on FanDuel. I
- 12:08Speaker 3: want the one of those main three.
- 12:10Speaker 2: Guys like you were talking in Jose. We just recorded
- 12:14Speaker 2: in our long show. It's over on the Mayo Media
- 12:17Speaker 2: Network breaking down the entire showdown slate in terms of
- 12:20Speaker 2: the Jets captain play. Not for me, but I mean
- 12:25Speaker 2: it could be a crazy slate.
- 12:26Speaker 1: You never know.
- 12:28Speaker 2: Running back position, same thing. We're gonna stick with FanDuel.
- 12:32Speaker 2: Have it sorted here by projected value. We have Alvin
- 12:37Speaker 2: Kamara at the chap top a chain.
- 12:41Speaker 1: Not gonna play Rico. We have Gibbs Bijon, Devin Singletary.
- 12:45Speaker 1: I did want to see where we have our guy
- 12:49Speaker 1: Jordan Mason.
- 12:49Speaker 2: So we have Jordan Mason maybe projected a little lower
- 12:53Speaker 2: than I would have you know, maybe we can bump
- 12:56Speaker 2: that up a little bit. But when you start by value,
- 12:58Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara has been doing great. I mean he has
- 13:00Speaker 2: a huge role coming off the big monster game Eagles defense.
- 13:04Speaker 2: I don't think is anything to be all that worried about.
- 13:07Speaker 2: I worry a little bit about the Miami Dolphins offense,
- 13:10Speaker 2: like what they're able to do with Skyler Thompson at quarterback.
- 13:14Speaker 2: Gibbs splitting Carrie seventy nine hundred, that's a big boy
- 13:19Speaker 2: price tag for him. Devin Singletary big time underdogs or
- 13:25Speaker 2: seven point underdogs against the Browns.
- 13:28Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 13:28Speaker 2: It's like I guess it seems like a pretty tough position.
- 13:31Speaker 2: I mean, we have the free square on DraftKings, but
- 13:33Speaker 2: I FanDuel these guys are priced kind of appropriately.
- 13:36Speaker 1: It seems pretty difficult seeing anything here.
- 13:39Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that a chain price a lot at
- 13:41Speaker 3: seven seven, and I do like Kamara if you can
- 13:43Speaker 3: fit him as well at eight four. Like, this is
- 13:46Speaker 3: a position. I don't want to be dumpster diving too much.
- 13:49Speaker 3: I'd rather get to the receivers. There's guys in the
- 13:52Speaker 3: mid six k range that I'm more interested to say there.
- 13:55Speaker 3: So I like a chain up top. I like Kamara
- 13:57Speaker 3: up top. I really like Jordan Mason, though I do
- 14:00Speaker 3: think we have them under projected just a bits. One
- 14:03Speaker 3: of the most likely minus one ady to score this
- 14:06Speaker 3: week him against Kamara is I guess, like right now,
- 14:09Speaker 3: what I'm looking at, it's gonna be Jordan Mason. He's
- 14:12Speaker 3: gonna be probably a decent bit higher owned. But Kamar
- 14:16Speaker 3: is minus two ten to score Mason's minus one eighty,
- 14:20Speaker 3: both in solid game environments. And again you can play
- 14:23Speaker 3: both of them as well. Do charbon A play And
- 14:25Speaker 3: this is again if Kenneth Walker is out, charbon A
- 14:28Speaker 3: is probably gonna be one of your running backs only
- 14:31Speaker 3: sixty seven hundred. That's just too cheap, got a bunch
- 14:34Speaker 3: of work. So if he's out, I don't play scharbon Ay.
- 14:37Speaker 3: If he's in, I think charbon A Mason the chain
- 14:40Speaker 3: probably the best, and some other options. Josh Jacobs seven
- 14:44Speaker 3: point three K. I mean the Packers literally want to
- 14:46Speaker 3: play high school football, run the ball forty times, play
- 14:50Speaker 3: good defense. He gets it. They get another matchup where
- 14:53Speaker 3: their defense can win him this game against Tennessee. Like
- 14:56Speaker 3: Levis can take sacks. This game could easily be the
- 14:59Speaker 3: same way. And if they play the same game script
- 15:01Speaker 3: Jacobs will touch the ball thirty times. I'm good with that.
- 15:04Speaker 3: At seven point three. K got the bonus on fan
- 15:07Speaker 3: duel last week as well. Other than that, I don't know.
- 15:11Speaker 3: I know Joe Mixon as in practice, so look at that.
- 15:14Speaker 3: I assume he'll play Zamir White. Madison's pretty much like
- 15:18Speaker 3: taking that role a decent bit. I know coach speak
- 15:21Speaker 3: wants a mere White to get back involved. He's only
- 15:23Speaker 3: six k. You need some value. I don't hate that.
- 15:28Speaker 3: Devin Singletary six k. I'm kind of reaching out again.
- 15:30Speaker 3: Those plays are more so if Kenneth Walker plays, there's
- 15:33Speaker 3: no Charbonne. That's when you can look for value. But
- 15:36Speaker 3: the svend ups Mason Kamara at chain look good even
- 15:41Speaker 3: for their price.
- 15:41Speaker 1: Takes two more names.
- 15:44Speaker 2: James Connor at seventy four gets all the work, and
- 15:47Speaker 2: then Rashad White seven k.
- 15:49Speaker 1: They're favored by seven seven points.
- 15:51Speaker 3: Yeah, I like the Rashada White price take. Yeah, the
- 15:54Speaker 3: Connor one as well.
- 15:55Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 15:56Speaker 2: All right, let's check out DK so you can find
- 15:59Speaker 2: we We already talked about the Mason things just way
- 16:01Speaker 2: too cheap sixty two hundred. He was underpriced last week,
- 16:04Speaker 2: underpriced again this week.
- 16:07Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 16:08Speaker 2: Just at first glance, it looks like a much more
- 16:10Speaker 2: clearer picture on DraftKings Kamara seventy five hundred, much cheaper
- 16:14Speaker 2: nine hundred dollars cheap over here than I FanDuel, Very steady,
- 16:19Speaker 2: roll tons of outs with the pass catching stuff. I
- 16:21Speaker 2: think he's very viable at seventy five. You liked a
- 16:25Speaker 2: Chaine over on FanDuel. Seven k here Josh Jacob sixty
- 16:29Speaker 2: seven James, I just brought up James Connor and Rashab
- 16:33Speaker 2: White sixty six sixty one.
- 16:35Speaker 1: You have one spot for sure with with Jordan Mason.
- 16:37Speaker 1: He's the free square of the week. I like Kamara,
- 16:40Speaker 1: so it seems much easier to fill out the running
- 16:42Speaker 1: back position over here on DK post a FanDuel.
- 16:45Speaker 3: I agree, Mason's a stone cold lock chain looks good,
- 16:49Speaker 3: Kamara looks good. If Kenneth Walker's out, Charbonne looks good.
- 16:53Speaker 3: I really don't think you need to mess around with
- 16:55Speaker 3: any of those other guys, because everyone I mentioned all
- 16:58Speaker 3: four of those guys in great spots. Yeah, don't need
- 17:01Speaker 3: to waste anyone's time.
- 17:05Speaker 2: Strike two, Yeah, strike two, one more and I'm out of.
- 17:10Speaker 3: Solo show. No, you get twenty strikes a solo show.
- 17:15Speaker 2: Before we talk about wide receiver, douce a favorite hit
- 17:17Speaker 2: the like and subscribe helps us out a ton over
- 17:22Speaker 2: at the running back position or wide receiver position. I
- 17:25Speaker 2: kind of just sorted here by value to see what
- 17:27Speaker 2: pops up. We have Tank Dell showing up at fifty
- 17:29Speaker 2: two hundred, Elijah Moore at thirty six hundred, Tolbert thirty eight.
- 17:34Speaker 2: So a couple of cheap guys here showing up as
- 17:38Speaker 2: solid values. Lad mcconkeye, which I don't really trust the
- 17:42Speaker 2: Chargers passing game. I mean they want to run the
- 17:45Speaker 2: ball as much as possible, and I don't necessarily love
- 17:48Speaker 2: the matchup DeVonta Smith, though without AJ Brown is definitely
- 17:52Speaker 2: solid play a Monross Saint Brown at eighty two. I
- 17:55Speaker 2: mean he got there with the yards and the receptions
- 17:58Speaker 2: last week. I mean, if he finds the ends, it's
- 18:00Speaker 2: a monster game. I think he's still a solid option.
- 18:04Speaker 2: What are you seeing here at the wide receiver position.
- 18:07Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of options, That's what I'm seeing,
- 18:10Speaker 3: Tank Dell. Yeah, we'll start there at the top fifty
- 18:12Speaker 3: to two hundred for Tank Dell in a dome, good
- 18:15Speaker 3: game environment that way, Miss Price. You can see though
- 18:20Speaker 3: last two weeks Yoshibas or Ellen Lazard last week Ty
- 18:23Speaker 3: Johnson a little bit at four K. These Elijah Moore's
- 18:27Speaker 3: Jalen Tolberts of the world. These aren't nearly the same
- 18:30Speaker 3: slam dunks as what we had in the past, which
- 18:33Speaker 3: is why I probably want to live more in the
- 18:35Speaker 3: mid tier at receiver than I want to do get
- 18:38Speaker 3: all the way to CD or Jefferson or Tyreek is
- 18:41Speaker 3: what I'm thinking right now. Again, when the value is
- 18:44Speaker 3: not as good, I probably want to live in the
- 18:47Speaker 3: mid tier and the mid tier is strong. So let's
- 18:51Speaker 3: go through here. DeVante Smith at six point nine K
- 18:54Speaker 3: no aj Brown Like, I'm totally in on Devonte Smith
- 18:58Speaker 3: in that same range. I'll add a NKO as well.
- 19:00Speaker 3: That's just maybe I know ball more than others. He
- 19:03Speaker 3: is a grown ass man. He is probably a top
- 19:06Speaker 3: six receiver in the NFL.
- 19:08Speaker 2: Very legit man, I mean just very very legit. He
- 19:10Speaker 2: gets open, he's a big body, great connection with strowd
- 19:13Speaker 2: like he's a stud.
- 19:15Speaker 3: Yeah, he's legit. Dollar Tree version of Megatron, and that's
- 19:19Speaker 3: as good of a compliment I can give someone. So
- 19:23Speaker 3: yeah him at seven three. DeVante six ' nine. Keep
- 19:26Speaker 3: it going down a little bit, Chris Godwin. I mean, again,
- 19:29Speaker 3: not the best matchup because Denver does have to score.
- 19:33Speaker 3: You do like it, But I mean he put up
- 19:35Speaker 3: twenty seven all of his points in the first half
- 19:37Speaker 3: last week. He's really good in the slot. Malik Neighbors.
- 19:41Speaker 3: Danny Dimes isn't great, but he just Pepper's neighbors at
- 19:43Speaker 3: six four. I like that play. This is where I'm
- 19:46Speaker 3: getting that mid tier instead of spending up Godwin great
- 19:50Speaker 3: Neighbors six four Chris Olave sixty three in a great
- 19:53Speaker 3: game script in a dome. I'm in Metcalf coming off
- 19:55Speaker 3: a monster game. I like him. Talked about Geno at
- 19:59Speaker 3: quarterback Brandon I only six point two k love that
- 20:02Speaker 3: price tag for Brandon, not Yuke. So all those guys
- 20:05Speaker 3: look really strong down a little bit. Jackson Smith and
- 20:08Speaker 3: the JIGBA had a very good stat line as well.
- 20:10Speaker 3: Last week. Involved a lot favorites. I like him. Tank
- 20:14Speaker 3: Dell already mentioned, oh a big talking point right here.
- 20:18Speaker 3: The Panthers. Finally, the Panthers are in play a little bit.
- 20:22Speaker 3: I didn't mention Chewba at running back. Do I like it? No,
- 20:25Speaker 3: it's more of a tournament play. But the adult When
- 20:28Speaker 3: Andy Dalton was announced the starter, the total went up
- 20:30Speaker 3: and the Panthers spread got thinner. That show is that
- 20:33Speaker 3: Andy Dalton is a way better quarterback than Bryce Young,
- 20:36Speaker 3: at least right now in their career. Deontay Johnson only
- 20:39Speaker 3: four point nine k, Adam Feeling five K. I do
- 20:45Speaker 3: prefer Deontay right now, but Dalton's actually a serviceable quarterback
- 20:50Speaker 3: at full point PPR site. That's the value right there.
- 20:53Speaker 3: So I would feel much safer playing at Deontay Johnson
- 20:57Speaker 3: and Adam Feeling than I probably would Tolbert it up there,
- 21:00Speaker 3: Elijah Moore, So I listened a lot of names, but
- 21:03Speaker 3: that midsier looks really strong to me.
- 21:05Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of options.
- 21:06Speaker 2: Nice, Oh yeah, yeah, oh man, he's super legit.
- 21:09Speaker 1: But yeah, a lot of options. I kind of agree
- 21:12Speaker 1: with you.
- 21:13Speaker 2: Let's let's check out fan duel, see what stands out
- 21:16Speaker 2: over there, sort by value first, see if anything pops up.
- 21:21Speaker 2: Marik Cooper show. Yeah, so Marie Cooper showing up at
- 21:24Speaker 2: six k. We do have the Sunday Night game on
- 21:28Speaker 2: the fan Duel slate. Ra Shee Rice at seventy three hundred.
- 21:31Speaker 2: I think it's a very fine option. Yeah, that's way
- 21:33Speaker 2: too cheap for him and his workload. Ayuk sixty five hundred,
- 21:38Speaker 2: Tank Dell sixty two, Nico Collins seventy six. Let me
- 21:43Speaker 2: just sort by projection here, so you got the guys
- 21:47Speaker 2: at the top. So a'man wrestling Brown a much better
- 21:49Speaker 2: play on I mean he typically is anyway, just because
- 21:52Speaker 2: of the pass catching up side and the targets and
- 21:54Speaker 2: the receptions. Much better play on DK versus FanDuel. Marvin
- 21:59Speaker 2: Harrison Junior though I think has a good price tag
- 22:02Speaker 2: on FanDuel, much better than on DK.
- 22:05Speaker 1: Rashi Rice, Like I said, I'll continue to play him.
- 22:08Speaker 1: We have Davanta Smith.
- 22:09Speaker 2: At eight K without a j Brown, Chris Olave under
- 22:13Speaker 2: seven k. I think is solid Ayu click we talked
- 22:16Speaker 2: about solid at sixty five hundred.
- 22:19Speaker 1: Chris Godwin under seven K. I think it's a mispriced I.
- 22:22Speaker 2: Mean he should be in the seven K range now,
- 22:24Speaker 2: even like you said, the matchup's not great, but his
- 22:28Speaker 2: workload is insane. Sixty six I think is much too
- 22:32Speaker 2: cheap for him probably kind where I try to cut
- 22:37Speaker 2: it off like the mid to low six k's like
- 22:39Speaker 2: I in cash. If I can stay above that, I
- 22:41Speaker 2: feel pretty good.
- 22:42Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of guys that I like there.
- 22:44Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll circle back quick. Like the individual match up
- 22:47Speaker 3: for Godwin isn't bad. It's more so if you don't
- 22:49Speaker 3: think Broncos can score like certain will be on Mike Evans.
- 22:52Speaker 3: It's more of a middle to field funnel. So I
- 22:55Speaker 3: want to circle back on that. But same thoughts in
- 22:58Speaker 3: the fact of on Fandel that leave it right how
- 23:01Speaker 3: you had it back. I love it yep CD nine
- 23:05Speaker 3: three nine to one, AM nine two, Jefferson Pright nineteen
- 23:09Speaker 3: point nine to six, whatever, Fantasy points all that. In
- 23:12Speaker 3: high nineteens, you drop down and save a little under
- 23:15Speaker 3: two k for Harrison and Rashid Rice eighteen projection seventeen
- 23:19Speaker 3: point five. But like in great game environments at that
- 23:23Speaker 3: Rashid Rice looks like a complete stud. Mahomes number one
- 23:26Speaker 3: option is always gonna be good. Harrison coming off the
- 23:29Speaker 3: big game in a Dome highest total. So again I
- 23:32Speaker 3: don't see myself getting It's Thursday. Things can change if
- 23:36Speaker 3: so we'll talk about it Cast Reports Sunday morning. But
- 23:39Speaker 3: I see myself mainly it would be Marvin Harrison as
- 23:42Speaker 3: my highest price receiver, and that's just because again I'm
- 23:47Speaker 3: paying up at quarterback. The running backs. We talked about
- 23:50Speaker 3: god Wins six point six K, Olave six point seven K,
- 23:54Speaker 3: Metcalf seven point two K. Brandon and I you six
- 23:57Speaker 3: ' five Like there's no way, Brandon, I you should
- 23:59Speaker 3: be six point five K, and then yeah you go,
- 24:03Speaker 3: So I will mention one five K guy. Deontay Johnson's
- 24:06Speaker 3: only five to three like he is. If you do
- 24:09Speaker 3: want the value, I think he is your value and
- 24:11Speaker 3: you might need it. Amari Cooper only six K, very
- 24:15Speaker 3: very good price takes for them, So there's just so
- 24:17Speaker 3: many miss prices there. Nico Collins, I absolutely love Nico.
- 24:21Speaker 3: He's seven point six k, so right in the Harrison
- 24:24Speaker 3: and that boat. So yeah, I don't see myself spending
- 24:27Speaker 3: all the way up. I think I'm more in that Nico, Rashid,
- 24:31Speaker 3: Rice Range, Devonte Smith even without aj Brown, and then
- 24:36Speaker 3: Deontay's really really cheap. Amaro looks too.
- 24:38Speaker 1: Cheap as well. Yeah.
- 24:40Speaker 2: It just kind of leads me to believe in in
- 24:42Speaker 2: tournaments that we can see these top end guys get
- 24:44Speaker 2: squeezed a little bit with so many guys like you said,
- 24:47Speaker 2: like eighteen hundred dollars cheaper and below that don't project
- 24:50Speaker 2: all that differently than the top end guys like CD
- 24:53Speaker 2: Jefferson a Monra like in in tournaments. I mean we're
- 24:58Speaker 2: showing twenty one, six, twenty two. I wouldn't be surprised
- 25:01Speaker 2: if they get squeezed a little bit because of how
- 25:03Speaker 2: many viable guys there are in that tier below.
- 25:07Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I think DK is kind of be the
- 25:08Speaker 3: same thing. And again we're not saying they're gonna be
- 25:10Speaker 3: five six, but relative to people want to spend Kamara
- 25:15Speaker 3: e chean these mid tier as much. So good point.
- 25:18Speaker 3: We'll probably talk about that Sunday.
- 25:20Speaker 2: Definitely, we'll be talking about that. All right, let's flip
- 25:22Speaker 2: over to the tight end position. We're going to go
- 25:26Speaker 2: ahead and sort by value. See what shows up at
- 25:29Speaker 2: the top. McBride shows as our top value. Sixty eight,
- 25:34Speaker 2: brock Bowers looks great. Travis Kelce does not look so
- 25:37Speaker 2: great at seventy two, Goddard at fifty eight. I do
- 25:40Speaker 2: like quite a bit that that stands up to me
- 25:42Speaker 2: as a solid price, solid play with aj Brown out
- 25:47Speaker 2: scoon Maker looked good. I mean he got a lot
- 25:49Speaker 2: of action. It had to be like six or seven targets.
- 25:52Speaker 2: I want to say, yeah, I have this up.
- 25:54Speaker 1: It was. It was definitely much higher than people thought.
- 25:57Speaker 2: I know we had, Yeah, six targets, brought them all
- 26:00Speaker 2: in for forty three yards.
- 26:03Speaker 1: Assuming is Ferguson out for sure?
- 26:06Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's for a couple of weeks.
- 26:08Speaker 1: Okay, pitch sixty two. I don't know. The initial lean
- 26:12Speaker 1: for me might just be going cheap at this position
- 26:16Speaker 1: if we need it.
- 26:17Speaker 2: Like I don't hate Schoonmaker at forty nine, I don't
- 26:20Speaker 2: hate Goddard at fifty eight. If I have the money, yeah,
- 26:24Speaker 2: sure I'll play McBride, but I don't know if I
- 26:26Speaker 2: necessarily have to do that. Put your thoughts at tight end.
- 26:29Speaker 3: I'll circle back. Wow, that injury did not look good
- 26:32Speaker 3: at all. He was seen practicing today Ferguson. Yeah, Jordan
- 26:36Speaker 3: loved practice a little bit too, and he's not playing
- 26:38Speaker 3: this week. But yeah, yeah, keep that in mind. That's interesting.
- 26:42Speaker 3: Would you let me just ask you this because otherwise
- 26:44Speaker 3: it's a pretty easy talking point four nine Schoonmaker or
- 26:47Speaker 3: five k Taysom Hill.
- 26:50Speaker 2: I'm going schoon maker just because I mean, I guess
- 26:53Speaker 2: I might be a little bit biased, just because I
- 26:55Speaker 2: never play Taysom Hill, but yeah, you know it would
- 26:58Speaker 2: probably be him for me. Ideally five d eight. Goddard's as
- 27:02Speaker 2: cheap as you need to go, And if.
- 27:04Speaker 3: I had the five hundred, I prefer brock Bauers at
- 27:06Speaker 3: six three five five hundred. From there, I prefer trade McBride,
- 27:11Speaker 3: and I look at trade McBride and Kill relatively the same.
- 27:13Speaker 3: So unless somehow I was debating leaving three hundred or not, kill,
- 27:17Speaker 3: McBride gets closer. But I do think it's McBride or Boers.
- 27:21Speaker 3: You don't have that, probably Dallas Godder. But yeah, the
- 27:24Speaker 3: reason I asked was I was looking down at if
- 27:27Speaker 3: I really needed to say, like do I want to
- 27:29Speaker 3: try the Parkinson experiment again? Not really? Noah fan for nine,
- 27:33Speaker 3: and like, they're just not many real good options down there,
- 27:36Speaker 3: So hopefully Goddard are above.
- 27:39Speaker 2: All right over on DraftKings again, just have it sorted
- 27:44Speaker 2: by value here, and we talked about the Panthers.
- 27:47Speaker 1: Passing game, maybe some improvement here.
- 27:49Speaker 2: We have Tommy Trumbull as the top option in terms
- 27:53Speaker 2: of value twenty six hundred. We have Scoonmaker up here
- 27:56Speaker 2: at thirty three, we have Doulsitch at twenty nine, and
- 28:00Speaker 2: then kind of hit more stable guys McBride's sixty two,
- 28:04Speaker 2: Bowers fifty four, Goddard forty six, Kittle fifty seven, and
- 28:11Speaker 2: then start to hit some more value with Hayden Hurst
- 28:14Speaker 2: at twenty nine. Is it viable to go with with
- 28:17Speaker 2: one of these super cheap guys to kind of make
- 28:19Speaker 2: everything work at the tight end position?
- 28:22Speaker 3: Absolutely if you want. That's why we DraftKings. We talked
- 28:25Speaker 3: about if we circle all the way back to the
- 28:27Speaker 3: Hurts of the world up top, but also why Geno
- 28:30Speaker 3: Carr and those guys are viable down there. A lot
- 28:32Speaker 3: of that could be like a two v two if
- 28:34Speaker 3: you want to go up Bowers up top, McBride up
- 28:36Speaker 3: top or Kittle up top and go cheaper quarterback, or
- 28:40Speaker 3: if you want to go a scoon Maker, a Tremble Parkinson,
- 28:44Speaker 3: adultgic of fans, and then you want to go with
- 28:47Speaker 3: one of those big quarterbacks. So why it's looking like
- 28:51Speaker 3: a good week right now, and I hope you just
- 28:53Speaker 3: don't have some big news that makes it really condensed.
- 28:56Speaker 3: Usually there's two positions I look at. You could say three,
- 28:59Speaker 3: but tight end and d. When there's really concentrated chalk
- 29:02Speaker 3: at either of those two spots, it usually dictates kind
- 29:05Speaker 3: of what the builds going. Like, Oh, if you're everyone's
- 29:08Speaker 3: punting tight end, people always are fine. If it is
- 29:11Speaker 3: a chalk defense, usually it is a cheaper one. Okay, Well,
- 29:13Speaker 3: everyone's gonna land on the same spend ups and you're
- 29:15Speaker 3: playing this and that when tight end can be uh
- 29:18Speaker 3: and quarterbacks the third position. If everyone's going cheap quarterback,
- 29:22Speaker 3: you're falling into studs on weeks like this where there's
- 29:25Speaker 3: viable up top and lower quarterbacks because already, like Mason
- 29:29Speaker 3: is going to be locked in I you look a
- 29:31Speaker 3: little too cheap. There's gonna be locks, no doubt about that.
- 29:34Speaker 3: But when tight end quarterback, when there can go both ways,
- 29:38Speaker 3: it's a fun slate. And that's where I'm looking at
- 29:40Speaker 3: right now is if I can get Kittle Bowers, and
- 29:43Speaker 3: I do think that's in play. I like that. I'd
- 29:45Speaker 3: be fine going cheaper quarterback. But also if I can
- 29:48Speaker 3: and you land on Tremble because he has Dalton there
- 29:51Speaker 3: a schoon maker, because Ferguson doesn't play if he does play,
- 29:54Speaker 3: he practiced, do not play schoonmaker adult hit right there.
- 29:57Speaker 3: You can win in cash games with the zero, well,
- 30:00Speaker 3: because it's what it allows you to do.
- 30:02Speaker 1: So yeah, a lot of times with these punts we
- 30:04Speaker 1: talked about all the time.
- 30:05Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, if you're playing the big one hundred
- 30:08Speaker 2: and fifty million maker, like, yeah, if you get a
- 30:11Speaker 2: zero at a position or at tight end, you're probably
- 30:14Speaker 2: not going to win. But in cash games, it's not
- 30:17Speaker 2: necessarily what these punts do. It's what they do for
- 30:20Speaker 2: the rest of your lineup. What are you able to
- 30:22Speaker 2: get if you play Tommy Trumble at twenty six hundred,
- 30:25Speaker 2: are you getting a massive upgrade at quarterback? Are you
- 30:27Speaker 2: going from one of the five k quarterbacks to Jalen
- 30:31Speaker 2: Hurts that could just nuke the slate and get thirty.
- 30:34Speaker 1: Five Fantasy points.
- 30:35Speaker 2: So in cash games, you know, that's the mindset that
- 30:38Speaker 2: you can can kind of have, which differs from tournaments.
- 30:42Speaker 1: Like, again, it's not necessarily what they do, it's what
- 30:46Speaker 1: they do for your lineup.
- 30:49Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, you kind of said about it. Zero points,
- 30:52Speaker 3: zero points from Tremble Derek Carr gets you seventeen and
- 30:56Speaker 3: your tight end brock Powers gets you nine. Well there
- 30:59Speaker 3: are Jalen Hurts goes out there and gets you thirty five.
- 31:02Speaker 3: Then travel got to zero. That two v two just
- 31:04Speaker 3: outscore the cheap quarterback high tight end one. I don't
- 31:07Speaker 3: know if a salaries match up, I'm just speaking out loud.
- 31:10Speaker 3: Yeah it does, so absolutely.
- 31:12Speaker 1: Don't talk a ton of defense on here.
- 31:14Speaker 2: I mean you can always go cheap, and you know,
- 31:16Speaker 2: there's a lot of different ways to go for cash games,
- 31:18Speaker 2: but just to pull it up quickly sorting by value,
- 31:22Speaker 2: we have the Buccaneers at three K.
- 31:25Speaker 1: I think it's a really good spot for them. It's
- 31:26Speaker 1: a really good price tag for them. At home, they've
- 31:29Speaker 1: been playing well as a team.
- 31:30Speaker 2: They get this Broncos offense that really sucks and can't
- 31:35Speaker 2: score points, which usually is a good sign for the defense.
- 31:40Speaker 1: Is there anything else that kind of stands out? I
- 31:42Speaker 1: don't know.
- 31:43Speaker 2: Maybe it is just the box at three K. I
- 31:45Speaker 2: mean that stands out as a pretty solid option to me,
- 31:49Speaker 2: and it's not really breaking the bank.
- 31:51Speaker 1: Anything else here that stands out to you.
- 31:54Speaker 3: No, Yeah, box look like the best, but at the
- 31:56Speaker 3: end of the day, like it's defense. If you need
- 31:58Speaker 3: to save three and you had Titans against a backup
- 32:02Speaker 3: of Malik Willis. Again they pound the football. It's not
- 32:04Speaker 3: the best spot for upside. What is defense? Like if
- 32:08Speaker 3: you need a little cheaper Dolphins Broncos, what it gets
- 32:13Speaker 3: you as well? Like it's such a high variance position.
- 32:18Speaker 3: I see people complain about it. It should be two
- 32:22Speaker 3: or super flex or just at another flex spot. I
- 32:25Speaker 3: think it did make it more interesting and make it
- 32:27Speaker 3: easier in cash games because of the variants and it's
- 32:30Speaker 3: impossible to project them. But in tournaments, I do get why,
- 32:34Speaker 3: Like your team you had the Bears defense week one,
- 32:36Speaker 3: like you had such a leg up. There's so many
- 32:39Speaker 3: good teams, but if their defense scored four, well, you're
- 32:42Speaker 3: not competing with the various things so interesting dynamic and tournaments,
- 32:46Speaker 3: cash games. It's really what I land on. I look
- 32:49Speaker 3: at what I have and from there I try and
- 32:50Speaker 3: pick the best.
- 32:51Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you want to go super cheap. I
- 32:53Speaker 2: mean it pains me to say this, but I don't
- 32:54Speaker 2: even hate the Cardinals. I mean, golf has not lived good.
- 32:58Speaker 2: He'll take the sacks and he's throwing in through two weeks.
- 33:01Speaker 1: Again.
- 33:01Speaker 2: It's painful to say, because you know, I'm a Lions fan,
- 33:05Speaker 2: But I don't hate the Cardinals at home against the Lions.
- 33:09Speaker 2: If you needed that money, I mean, if you have
- 33:12Speaker 2: the bucks at three K and there's something you really
- 33:15Speaker 2: want for seven hundred dollars more like, I'd be totally
- 33:18Speaker 2: fine just going down and playing the Cardinals against Jerry
- 33:21Speaker 2: Goff this week.
- 33:22Speaker 3: So one hundred percent. I played the Cardinals last week
- 33:24Speaker 3: even though I was playing Rams, because I love my team.
- 33:27Speaker 3: I didn't have any money. Oh let's just hope that
- 33:30Speaker 3: a statue quarterback takes a couple of sacks and just
- 33:33Speaker 3: say the Cardinals gets you a zero. Well, hopefully my
- 33:36Speaker 3: other guys that I did spend the seven hundred and
- 33:38Speaker 3: four maybe put up a Kamara performance or something. Yeah,
- 33:41Speaker 3: defenses don't. Yeah, it's who knows what defense is. That's
- 33:45Speaker 3: the last position I fill out ninety five percent of weeks.
- 33:49Speaker 2: Yep, exactly, So all right, that's gonna do it. Any
- 33:52Speaker 2: final thoughts before we get on out of here.
- 33:55Speaker 3: No, same thoughts on FanDuel as well, Like the mid
- 33:58Speaker 3: price Carolina Panthers against me, I guess sure three K
- 34:02Speaker 3: it gets you everything. Do you have money?
- 34:04Speaker 1: From there?
- 34:04Speaker 3: You just start picking away, look at projections all that,
- 34:07Speaker 3: so no, I again the more we talked about.
- 34:10Speaker 1: It again this week, to be honest with you, I
- 34:12Speaker 1: mean more so than the first two weeks.
- 34:13Speaker 2: I mean they were first week is pretty clear pass
- 34:17Speaker 2: second week, I'd say probably an even clearer path.
- 34:20Speaker 1: This week, I think we're pretty wide open.
- 34:22Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too. Yeah, first two weeks and
- 34:25Speaker 3: then Maga Mega Trains. So hoping and expecting last this week. Monitor,
- 34:30Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker News, Jake Ferguson News. Looks pretty big you
- 34:33Speaker 3: practice today, So all that we talk about on the
- 34:36Speaker 3: Sunday show, projections everything updated, But yeah, appreciate all the
- 34:39Speaker 3: support as always.
- 34:40Speaker 2: Yeah, good luck to every when your contest will be
- 34:42Speaker 2: back to normal time slot for the Cash Show next
- 34:44Speaker 2: week Friday, one pm Eastern. Good Luck to Evy when
- 34:47Speaker 2: your contest, make sure to tune into the rest of
- 34:49Speaker 2: the shows here throughout the week. Sunday morning, be back
- 34:52Speaker 2: here live on this channel breaking down the main slate.
- 34:55Speaker 2: Good luck to have when your contest. Looking forward to
- 34:57Speaker 2: chatting with you guys next week.
- 34:59Speaker 1: Good luck