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Kassuuk: Dinklage on Dwarf Casting & Respawn's New Star Wars Games · Multiple Nerdgasm

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  so we started talking before the podcast everyone went wait wait wait this should
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  be the podcast yes and then we start recording and then we just go silent
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  well it's your job to kick off the conversation usually although that's
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  lead us in L yeah that became the UN official intro was just you saying
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  something I know but welcome to multiple
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  nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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  Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to all
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  things
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  nerdy okay well I I thought it was funny this on the latest Always Sunny podcast
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  they were talking about how they no longer can have conversations with each
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  other because every time they start to talk about something one of them goes
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  save it save it for the podcast and that's been 10 years of our life exactly
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  yeah yeah about 10 years ago that's what we started doing and now we just don't
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  even bother talking to each other outside of this show it it is so funny
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  though watching cuz I've started listening every now and again watching
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  they are going through what we went through at the start of our podcast yeah
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  exactly like they they're learning how to like to talk to each other not talk
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  over each other then yeah not being able to talk to each other outside of podcast
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  it's sort of we when um accused of
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  uh we we have not got better at talking over each other with the delay yeah that's right
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  yeah they're in the same room they've got no excuse yeah um
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  I forgot what I was saying to you got do when Mack was accusing Dennis of telling
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  him stories he' already heard and Dennis is like yeah it's it's because the
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  audience haven't heard them yeah I I don't actually I'm not actually just
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  hearing it for the first time you know what acting is don't you yeah but this
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  is not acting this is real life like what an actor does I'm still performing
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  and I know that call I can't I can't not yeah Robin Glenn yeah
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  like as if I know them you did realize this is they they videoed this week too
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  I know I know which I think it's time we start considering it I mean I am looking
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  at you now I just don't know that yeah I mean they seem just as surprised as I
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  look terrible at the we are that people watch podcasts but I mean it seems that
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  they do look I I will look into it when I've got my time off work okay and then
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  maybe it depends I might be very high that's what I'd do if I took some
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  time off work I'd just get very high yeah I'll probably just get [ __ ] up
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  I'll be honest I'm just going to write myself off big and a witch well I spoke
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  to my Leist and basically they're going to [ __ ] me for the first 24 to 48
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  hours all yeah yep he said I'm just going I going to take this bat and we
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  break the leg in order to fix it you will not be able to some more medical
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  terms but I'm go with he's going to [ __ ] me yeah more so I have not
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  listened to last week's episode that I was not on I apologize for that I did
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  learn in the meantime though that you're uh undergoing a procedure Luke so yes M
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  so will you be present you think next little bit of length yes just getting
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  that length might here I might not yeah width is fine it's length I'm worried
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  about G so I might be here next week I might not it depends if I'm out of
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  hospital you might be here and you might be very amusing yeah very high yeah
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  which is always fine by us so should we just jump straight into the Boba fit so
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  I have not watched this week so this is just going to be the a repeat of the
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  Matt okay Matt okay it feels like they got sick of filming Boba Fett and have'
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  gone let's make R Lor two episodes without Boba Fett oh is it okay and it's
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  been great cuz I know I mean he was in the background of one shot this week it
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  sort of makes it very confusing what the last episode's going to be cuz there's
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  only one more and I yeah right don't know how they're going to tie up any
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  stories but it also seems like this is in a response to the audience's reac
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  which is we don't like Boba Fett or anything in his story we do like mandal
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  I assume that's not the case because this was made already filmed it but
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  maybe yeah maybe you're right maybe they just did as they were filming good yeaha
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  Morrison was like I've got way too much to say guys if I'm going to speak this
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  much you're going to have to remove what I say from some of the later episodes
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  cuz you've only paid for this many words so Matt if you haven't seen
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  episode 6 but you have seen episode 5 remember how in episode 5 it felt much
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  more like a Star Wars than episodes 1 through 4 yeah in that it was good yeah
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  I did enjoy that yeah episode six says
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  Hey episode 5 hold my drink really okay and it's even got some like weird stuff
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  that's stuff I sort of I know vaguely about from cartoons and stuff but I
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  still enjoyed it like anvils falling on people's heads and things yeah if you
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  put a if you put a fake hole on a wall you can craw through
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  it yeah cool oh that sounds great I can't wait but yeah I have a feeling the
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  next episode is not going to be as good though cuz it's going to be about it's
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  going to have to have Boba Fett in cuz yeah the digital who knew man who
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  knew that we'd be like oh thank God Bobble Fett's not in this because they I
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  guess they were too scared to do Boba Fett right off the bat so they made the
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  Mandalorian but they basically just made him what Boba Fett would have been if
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  they hadn't made another so they were like we they can't be the same so they
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  like well we got to make Boba Fett boring I guess yeah but the thing about
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  Mando is that yeah he is an anti-hero he he he does do good but only if it kind
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  of serves his own interests whereas Boba Fett is now just an altruist you know
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  what I mean like the guy's a philanthropist that's pretty weird it's
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  not B Fett right no yeah Mando is Bobba Fett yeah oh well I will watch this
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  week's obviously I'll probably watch it I think you'll enjoy it yeah I mean we
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  can't talk about it now if you haven't seen it because you just need to go and
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  watch it directly after this I I apologize I will I will do that uh there
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  is some other Star Wars news apparently respawn I assume you got I can't
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  remember what when this got announced so I apologies if this has already been
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  discussed but respawn who did fall in order are doing three other Star Wars
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  games mhm I'm okay with that this is another new thing when was the last time
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  we were excited about new Star Wars video games because for decades they were
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  awful one of them and now we've had the last two that have come out have
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  actually been good yeah are you including sadr I never played that but
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  maybe I should take a look at that I enjoyed squadrons yeah I never finished
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  it also for the price point cuz it wasn't was like a $40 yeah okay after
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  this it's got a it's got a series X update so it looks looks good yeah I'm
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  looking for stuff that's just you know a quick play at the moment yeah
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  but yeah we're getting what the Fallen order Jedi fall in order 2 which I
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  enjoyed the first one yep uh we're getting another firstperson shooter game
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  mhm mhm and discl and then we're also getting a strategy
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  game they bit hit and missc style strategy game that could be great
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  yeah I'm putting this out there exced please don't set it on
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  tatooing put a full stop after T let's never go back there unless it's like
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  what was the one that was uh it was an RTS that was like set you know
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  during the I was it the Clone Wars and I think it was it set during all the wars
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  right so you had battles on all the various St are you talking about um Empire war
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  is that Empire war that I love that that was great because you had not had land
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  battles but you also had the space battles and so if it was like that yeah
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  sure have one on T fine but but like
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  yeah not just tne thanks no far too much happens for something that's the
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  furthest away from the center of the Galaxy one of the best things about
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  Fallen order and correct me if I'm wrong oh no that there were very few of any
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  planets that I had ever even heard of in it it was Kik they didn't go to any of
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  the three major ones oh kesik that's right yeah yeah but i' never they didn't
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  go to T or indor oh man I I listened to a podcast recently or just before
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  Christmas actually where they were reviewing the Star Wars holiday special um
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  and they kep they kept saying kazuk instead of kashik what and I was just
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  just the guys in the podcast I guess they just looked up what it was called
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  online saw the word and assumed they knew how to say it zook and I was just
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  like no you can't do that if you're a fan you know what it is why are you
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  talking about it if you don't know how that makes no sense and at one point
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  like these guys have no right to be talking about St that's right yeah
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  all what are their names what are their names one series that Luke knows how to
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  gatekeep it's star at one point one of them set it closer to the correct way
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  and the other one corrected him and said no it's kazook kazook Ki Kashi no it's
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  kazuk it's kazook yeah yeah trust me it's kazook we've all know it's kashik
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  for decades now y don't they say it in the holiday special I I I'm not been a
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  very long time since I've seen it but I think I do maybe want to go back and
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  re-watch it no no the only time I'll re-watch it is if all three of us are
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  together one Christmas oh that would be nice we can introduce our children to
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  Star Wars for the for the first time yeah and each other can we just skip the
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  start where it's just the wookies with no language the the grandpa
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  jerking off to virtual reality porn that's so
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  weird yeah I know I George was like I
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  delete that yeah for [ __ ] sake um but mind you George Lucas has a
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  precedent for that because in THX 1138 his first film there's only two channels
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  on TV the violence Channel and the sex Channel and it's kind of VR and um the
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  main character THX is just sitting there and he watches the violence channel for
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  a while which is just two cops beating a man and then he just switches over to
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  the sex Channel which is just a lady doing a sexy dance so somebody probably
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  watched that and was like George Lucas is going to love
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  this it's a it's like poetry at Rhymes yeah a lot of people did have to sign off on
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  that and also remember Harrison for luk Mar care they all agreed to it as well
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  contractually obliged I think is the term you're looking for sure car I'm not
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  sure Carrie Fisher was in condition to agree to anything yeah not sure she knew
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  I'm just I'm just remembering Mark Hamill's makeup in it oh yeah very just
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  the fact that it was shot on video you know what I me it was just it was just
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  not right in so many ways no but I guess at the time that just looked the same as
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  how we watched Star Wars like on we wouldn't have noticed yeah I can't even
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  imagine watching stuff the way that I watched it as a kid now with like CRA
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  going through the screen the whole time yeah yeah missing half of the frame on
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  either side yeah exactly this year we do get gut into the Galaxy holiday special
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  that's true so that could be interesting yeah he's he's doing some good stuff
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  lately Jes gun just left I think people are just letting him do his own thing
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  out good I haven't watched Peacemaker yet I got to watch Peacemaker that's is
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  it all out it's good I think just six is out now right not quite
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  okay but yeah it's on binge so great yeah know looking forward to that from
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  everything I've read it's it's excellent the the opening dance sequence I just
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  love of each episode just dance sequence in each
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  episode the intro it's a it's a dead sequence yeah right it's great like
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  Family Guys style sorry like is this the it's one intro that they play each week
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  or every week they work in a yeah so watch it watch that now sure okay you
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  don't have to wait just watch the intro yeah we get uh we're getting Guardians
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  volume 3 and there's a news article here that says you know it's the end of the
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  series you're not going to see the team again and I think we knew that but like
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  this seems to it seems like they're saying now actually probably none of
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  them are going to come back again they're going to die quit no I just
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  don't I don't know about that no because was talking about how he's not going to
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  do dra anymore but he said he said someone else should do it but I'm not
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  going to do it and then it's like they haven't recast in this kind of latest
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  wave though they've just introduced new characters but I guarantee you that the
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  CGI characters raccoon and uh group will be back yeah they they'll be back I
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  reckon St I honestly I think starlord will be back Chris Pratt you think he'll
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  run out of work I don't see him I don't know he's uh if he keep the mask if he
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  keeps the mask on he can they can get anyone he gets an Academy Award for this
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  Mario voice he's got Brewing up yeah you might just see him on the Broadway stage
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  from now on doing real starlord will be back as Mario it's a me I think it's Batista
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  who's definitely out yeah Batista wants to do some serious acting which kudos to
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  him Ian he's done some he's done I mean he's been in some great films they just
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  don't write in large Parts no but I don't know that he I mean no offense to
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  him he does a great job at the roles he but I think he gets given those roles
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  for a reason I'm not I can't imagine him doing you know some kind of monologue
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  kind of you know yeah
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  exactly yeah he's he's good but he's a large man that's what he's good at being
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  so yeah but what what he's very good at being is Drax because it's a large man
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  with very few lines that are perfectly timed perfect humor
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  and he is so suited for that I mean he was great in Blade Runner but how many
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  times can he do that it was almost like they could have written that character
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  for him right like he he it was a very particular played to his strengths which
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  was it was it was a his physical appearance played into it but also his
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  he was like softly spoken he didn't didn't have to give a lot of dialogue
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  like I can't imagine him you know in Schindler's List or something as you know
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  list yeah obviously he play Shindler sh yeah I I I don't know he could do R
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  Fin's role and just be like the biggest scariest Nazi out there Arman goth goth
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  was that his name the fact that you know the names of all the Nazis man not all
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  of them Dan not all of them only the good ones just the special ones Matt did
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  you read and I I took this out because it's since been disproven but apparently
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  it was all the headlines last week that um an Frank's betrayer has been named I
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  did see that yeah oh I did see that don't worry but then they haven't caught
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  me yet no they haven't they haven't caught your granddad yet
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  um no it it came out people started factchecking the um the sources and were
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  like I don't think this is accurate I think you're just trying to defame one
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  particular family I do have some advice if you ever want to go to an Frank's
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  house go on you need to months in advance you King us or the German
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  Army don't book barge down the door that's what the that's the mistake they
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  made don't know you're coming had I went there a couple years
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  ago evidently they sell like 80% of tickets 6 months beforehand and then
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  there's a raffle to get like the last few tickets each day that's I mean I I
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  know we're making some you know jokes and stuff that but that is just so odd
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  to think it's like a tourist attraction now yeah
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  yeah I guess applies to all of the you know the camps and whatnot too yeah but
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  I mean it's just a house it just looks like someone's house right yeah with a with a large
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  cupboard yeah it's actually a lot bigger than you think yeah it would have to be
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  right had old family in it yeah LS not buying this whole sub
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  story if you ask me yeah yeah is it's just that the Jews are used to a certain
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  standard of living that's what you mean isn't it
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  Luke it most certainly is not but no it was it was actually quite
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  interesting to go through so yeah right no I I'd be interested too did you flick
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  back through the um guest book and see where Justin Bieber had signed
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  it no I did not where yeah she would have been a Believer as well whatever
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  [ __ ] off and I don't swear often but
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  gross justtin know gross mind you she was a 14y old girl she probably would
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  have been a Justin besid but don't say it yourself yeah don't yeah don't think
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  it but don't say it especially not if you're Justin Bieber like come on
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  man yeah yeah I mean that' be like us writing subscribe to the
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  patreon $10 a month gets you the after party just right here around the book
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  yes you definitely would be Patron www.on.com
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  nasm Frank in the Afterparty this
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  week we got plenty of Jew hiding in the
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  after that's how we lure the Nazis in as
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  well get some of that gold Matt's friends and
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  family uh let's change the subject before Luke quits hold on I had some
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  other I wanted to Batman what was that Batman all right
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  Batman Batman comes out in a month it does and apparently we were talking
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  about how it was how it's quite long it's 3 hours long apparently they tested
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  a 4H hour cut that was a bit too much yeah like there was an extra
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  hour yeah [ __ ] people watched Batman and said there's an hour too much Batman
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  here yeah we have to make some small Cuts well I know if it was too much
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  Batman or too much Wayne M yeah good question yeah so I don't know but yeah 4
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  hours is very long I'm not almost because he is more of a detective
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  and stuff is it more of they just cut the part where he's actually doing the
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  investigation like testing samples and stuff waiting for the computer to finish
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  analyzing just him walking around the crime scene looking at stuff
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  going I don't know maybe h what are you thinking
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  Batman this is why we need to film it you just did a lot of facial expressions
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  actual talking I was going I was making noises yeah but there more facial
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  expressions all right fine hey hold on it's Batman you wouldn't be able to see the facial
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  expressions so yeah good point you can see half of his face not during Co you
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  can't he's got a mask on which also made no sense in the last Batman Trilogy
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  Where once his face came out and said I'm Batman with that chin so like no we
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  can see Batman Shin you're not Batman wait what which one
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  Affleck not Affleck the the one before um Christian B Christian Bale Christian
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  Bales remember when who claimed to be Batman I can't remember that the lawyer
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  dude oh M right he came out went I'm Batman and you see his chin it's like no
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  you're not anyone who seen Batman will know that's not you well that was the
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  point right that everyone was just jumping on the bandwagon trying to be Batman the bat
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  wagon oh and at the end turned out everyone could be the Batman well not everybody just
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  just yeah cuz Batman also doesn't like you if you do try to take the law into
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  your own hands as well right CU remember with Vigilantes and he was like yeah
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  don't do this yeah but I think Joseph Gordon L's parents were also murdered
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  that's yes as long as your parents have been murdered yeah bring your bring your
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  supporting documents when you're going to do your vigilante justice to be able
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  to prove you no parents and then you'll be good yeah and when they ask you what
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  your birth name is just say Robin and then then you'll get an idea and then
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  look at the camera yeah that's like the time they said to Batman to Bruce Wayne
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  like oh Bruce Wayne is is that your real name it's like oh actually real name is
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  Batman that's why I chose yeah that is mine wa I mean I mean I mean [ __ ] I mean
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  I'm got to go yeah you're All Dead Aren't you oh but there's something there's a
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  tie into it that I would I'd love to be in America to be able to try would you
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  have you seen this photo it doesn't look good you want to eat this [ __ ]
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  thing so yeah so I want to eat that I would eat that Little Caesars have a the
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  Batman calzone which is a uh it's a Batman czone and it I mean it look I
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  mean it looks vaguely like the bat symbol I suppose does it though I quite
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  like it's an honest photo this is a shack test of the Batman [ __ ]
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  symbol but normally when you see advertisements for stuff it's like looks
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  amazing what you get is made by a 15-year-old kid who doesn't give a [ __ ]
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  and just wants to but when I saw this this photo in the article this was taken
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  by the the author of the article and was like this is what I got and so I was
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  like well what's it supposed to look like and I scroll down and it's not that
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  different from what they actually at least yeah I mean it doesn't look great in any
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  of the photos well I mean was it the author of this article that Photoshopped
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  it into the into the sky behind Batman is that his photo or is that
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  the no I think that's the official one isn't it yeah you're right that's what
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  I'm saying like it it looks pretty similar I mean it looks pretty pathetic
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  here in the box kind of with half its cheese off do doesn't even look tasty
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  like I the bo looks pepperoni the outside of the box is
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  great yeah I mean I'm sure it probably tastes fine I mean it probably tastes
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  good also it comes with crazy sauce whatever the [ __ ] that is is there a
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  winky sign after the one of that can find out well can you please investigate
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  and find out what c i don't eat pepperoni and it's also got other animal
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  inside of it that I also don't eat no no but you can call and go what is the
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  crazy sauce oh what's the crazy sauce all right yeah sure sure I'll see what I
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  can find out and then maybe they can tell you eat the pizza just a crazy
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  sauce maybe they can be a veggie version of this is a calone just a kind of a pizza that's
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  folded back in on itself yeah Inside Out Pizza like usually it's just you know
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  meant as a a one person meal I think either that I'm just a fat prick could
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  be could be both but yeah yeah exactly I look at all pizzas as one person meals
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  these days man yeah but pizzas here are [ __ ]
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  huge compared to a smaller and smaller here yeah if I order pizza now it says
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  for a couple of bucks you can get a square pizza okay and and it's bigger
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  and I was like all right fine and it comes and it's it's enormous like like
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  it's it's more of a desk than a pizza let's be honest Square pizzas are like
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  it's so American cuz they're like why am I losing the [ __ ] corners who's rounding this
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  off is my right to eat an entire box worth of this
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  food let's see let me tell you the size of a pizza at the place I get pizzas
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  from because this is riveting content for uh listeners yeah we'll wait we'll
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  wait let's just wait in silence while you look it up I generally get pizza
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  from Famous Pizza in West Warwick near my
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  house named after Davis wonderful that's
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  right let's see order online how big I would order for pizza from a place named
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  after him or a place he worked at in between jobs right it doesn't say it
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  just says large or small large or Square okay that's annoying I mean if we'
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  finished talking about Batman pizzas we do have some dwarf news if we want to if
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  want to segue off of oric Davis oh yeah let's do it that's a yeah
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  that works yeah so dinky Peter Dinklage came out this week and um I mean years
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  after the film came out and Matt I think you and I went to see this together did
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  we the Snow White movie where there was a whole bunch of dwarves with famous
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  actors faces superimposed onto them oh I didn't see that but I know I heard about
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  that yeah right I maybe it was when we were living together I came home and
• 24:55
  said Kristen Stewart yeah Kristen Stewart was it yeah yeah I've not seen
• 24:59
  that that's the one yeah that's that's when Luke first started hating her
• 25:04
  because she was she lured that guy terrible person yeah rert Sanders yeah
• 25:09
  away from um that lured that poor innocent man away from that's right away
• 25:13
  from that model wife he had yeah exactly
• 25:17
  she's a monster anyway yeah yeah uh they got they got actual dwarves to
• 25:23
  play the dwarves but then they got Ian McShan um Nick Frost and a whole bunch
• 25:29
  of really great actors to do face acting and then mapped their faces onto the
• 25:34
  dwarves so you you you were watching Ian mcchain and other actors that you like
• 25:39
  watching but as midgets it was it was pretty funny it was it was it was
• 25:43
  adorable it was very very funny the implication the way that the way that
• 25:47
  you said all of that the implication was they got these really great actors and
• 25:50
  then they got these little guys and so I mean you think you're looking at a good
• 25:53
  actor you know you're looking at you're looking at a filthy little dwar you're not
• 26:00
  yes well I mean that's kind of the point that Peter Dinklage is making in Reverse
• 26:06
  though and was saying um he has come out this week and said if you want a dwarf
• 26:11
  why don't you just get a dwarf yeah absolutely and um he was criticizing not
• 26:16
  only the filmmakers for basically comping I was about to say a real people
• 26:23
  full-sized people full-sized people's faces onto
• 26:32
  go on go on nwarf actors onto dwarf actor bodies
• 26:38
  I'm trying to be as PC as I can um no I know but he was also criticizing the
• 26:43
  dwarf actors for um degrading themselves as to being in a film where their faces
• 26:49
  were going to be covered up um and he made a big stin about that and then the
• 26:52
  next day a whole bunch of dwarf actors came out and went you try turning down
• 26:56
  the only role for a dwarf that came out yeah all right for you Peter dinglish
• 27:01
  who gets all the all the [ __ ] War yes who has literally taken every single
• 27:05
  dwarf roll for himself well yeah he's replaced War Davis as the go-to the goto
• 27:10
  dwarf yeah which is a terrible thing but even War Davis made a joke about that in
• 27:16
  his television show remember I forgot too short Life's Too Short he was making
• 27:20
  a joke where cuz he was a an agent and then he'd sort of like yeah don't worry
• 27:25
  about you guys and give himself the good jobs and yeah
• 27:30
  yes yeah no that's all yeah when you said that he was criticizing them I was
• 27:34
  like [ __ ] hell all right I mean if you're a struggling actor you take any
• 27:38
  any role right it's a major motion picture like I'd be like those are my
• 27:42
  legs like absolutely well even if not you'd just be like thanks for the work
• 27:47
  thanks for that I don't have to [ __ ] makeal pay my mortgage this month yeah that's
• 27:52
  right I can maybe convince my parents that this wasn't a terrible idea like
• 27:56
  they told me it was I obviously my mortgage is smaller than yours cuz my
• 28:00
  house is smaller than yours I've still got to pay it it's a regularized house
• 28:04
  it's just got steps up to it the steps cost extra do we still have a dwarf
• 28:08
  watch jingle or uh so they all mad at Dinklage now I
• 28:14
  don't think they're mad at him I think they're just like uh hey think about it
• 28:17
  from this angle like it's very easy for you to say it it's very easy for us to
• 28:22
  say when anytime anyone thinks they're hiring you we've gone overboard saying it to beest
• 28:28
  me I'm closer closer in St to those guys than I am to you yeah you know I mean I
• 28:35
  just want to be clear that we definitely do not look down on these little
• 28:40
  guys they're doing a great
• 28:45
  job I've got jokes but I just I just know Luke's going to make me cut them
• 28:52
  so what do you want to talk about do you want to go back to followup and we'll
• 28:56
  talk about uh Spotify Matt I'm sure you've heard about this even without
• 29:01
  listening to our podcast last week uh Joe Rogan pissed off Neil Young Neil
• 29:07
  Young gave Spotify the ultimatum Spotify
• 29:09
  said see you later MH yeah I did uh I
• 29:14
  think I I did see some interesting conversation around this I think a lot
• 29:18
  of people were saying that I mean Neil Neil Young's not stupid enough to think
• 29:22
  Spotify were going to kick Rogan he's just trying to make start a conversation
• 29:27
  exactly and it's C did that cuz a bunch of other artists
• 29:32
  like Mitchell Mitchell JY Mitchell that's that's the word I'm looking for
• 29:36
  uh also and others and a lot of people a significant number of people uh canceled
• 29:41
  their Spotify accounts as a result not not I guess not even Neil Young fans in
• 29:46
  particular just people who heard about it and were like you know what yeah
• 29:48
  people that realized they weren't okay with uh have you seen that sp5 actually
• 29:53
  what their response to all of that is yes they've come out and now they've
• 29:59
  gone hey we want to give like everyone the option to talk about what they want
• 30:03
  we don't want to people aren allowed to talk about stuff that's dangerous to
• 30:06
  people but what we will do now is any show that mentions Co we will put a
• 30:12
  little disclaimer on there whether it's good or bad yeah but kind of in addition
• 30:18
  to that what they've done is that they have published their terms of service for what
• 30:25
  constitutes um a breach of their stand standards oh that's right because we
• 30:29
  didn't know that before people because they actually came out and said
• 30:34
  according to our terms Joe Rogan is not in breach he he himself hasn't come out
• 30:39
  and endorsed antia or anything like that he's just had a lot of antivaxers on and
• 30:44
  giv them a lot of airspace whatever yeah but still that's being discussed on the
• 30:49
  show and I think I think the the biggest argument that's come out in the last
• 30:53
  week which is an important argument um is are they a platform or are they a
• 30:59
  publisher uh are they a med Network yeah because a library is a platform a
• 31:05
  library is just they don't discriminate what books and a library doesn't
• 31:08
  commission books with to sit on their shelves well I'm going to point out when
• 31:13
  they're paying people to write a book then the situation
• 31:18
  changes correct they say write this book Spotify are are a media publisher in
• 31:22
  their own right with editorial content and they therefore have the
• 31:26
  responsibility to edit and curate their content and they can't just say oh we're
• 31:32
  a platform we put up anything so right I don't know with the amount of stuff that
• 31:37
  they have up there it's not possible for them to actually do that so you in the
• 31:43
  publishing case but but when they're actually producing the content which
• 31:46
  they are with with Joe now like they I mean they certainly can check his
• 31:50
  content because they're producing it they own it yeah exactly right yeah but
• 31:54
  Joe Rogan has also come out this week and said and I think was quite an
• 31:58
  articulate apology although to be honest I think he was I think he's not an idiot
• 32:04
  and I think there's a certain amount of uh Showmanship in this too but he just
• 32:08
  kind of came out and said look I I'll learn from this too I certainly didn't
• 32:11
  want to push a specific agenda and um you know more than happy to try to have
• 32:17
  a unbiased conversation but the fact that he hadn't
• 32:22
  done that up until this point and he cre it a very um careful apology it was kind
• 32:26
  of one of those I'm sorry that you are offended apologies yeah but without
• 32:31
  actually saying it in a way like you couldn't really criticize it even if
• 32:36
  you're being quite it was careful but it was yeah I know what you mean yeah yeah
• 32:40
  I mean if if you're intelligent you can kind of see the Nuance in it but he did
• 32:44
  the right thing and he did say the thing is Joe Rogan's always done this kind of
• 32:51
  stuff it's just that now in the middle of you know this whole Co pandemic thing
• 32:54
  it's more close to home like he's always had Alex Jones on talking about weird
• 32:58
  [ __ ] like you know people stealing babies to feed to politicians and all
• 33:03
  this weird [ __ ] and they always go and they talk about Tom Del long on to tell
• 33:07
  them that the [ __ ] government UF doing UFO [ __ ] and it's just that in
• 33:12
  this case it's kind of more important than all that stuff and see I'm starting
• 33:17
  to get to the stage where I think all of these conspiracy theories are just as
• 33:21
  dangerous as others well potentially because it it sort of makes it so that
• 33:26
  well we can talk about all this other stuff why can we talk about this it's
• 33:28
  like well cuz the other stuff's silly and this is not silly and even I've been
• 33:33
  like very into Flat Earth for so long and I can really start if you're playing
• 33:38
  FL Earth Bingo take a drink
• 33:42
  now but I can see how that's a gateway to getting to other things cuz a lot of
• 33:47
  it is it's a way of thinking about to to believe starting you have to believe
• 33:52
  that everyone on in the government if you believe the government can lie about
• 33:56
  one thing you believe you
• 34:01
  thek the government have lied to us but I mean yeah and then with this to
• 34:07
  there's I mean we don't have to go into it because I don't want to get a I mean
• 34:09
  we're probably going to get a warning before the show now anyway uh thanks
• 34:12
  Spotify but I mean there have been things where mistakes have been made by
• 34:17
  everybody but that doesn't mean that suddenly the people who were like
• 34:21
  thinking it was a conspiracy all along are suddenly correct like the mistake
• 34:25
  mistakes have been made it's that's all it is is the thing is also the there is
• 34:30
  a conversation to be had around things like should we still be in lockdown or
• 34:36
  is that actually just doing more harm than good a to the economy B to mental
• 34:40
  health things like that psychological um uh repercussions of everyone wearing
• 34:46
  masks these are valid conversations to have questions to ask and seek answers
• 34:52
  to the antix thing has been discussed and Y there is no conversation
• 34:58
  anymore you are far you are far more at
• 35:03
  risk being unvexed and getting Co then you are getting Ved well it's funny a
• 35:08
  lot of the people who who went down like down the anfa like anyone is going to
• 35:13
  get you're all going to be dead in 6 months and it's s like well that's 3/4
• 35:17
  of the world have had it and they're all fine yeah like you're now wrong yeah
• 35:23
  that it's proven to be wrong I mean it's in the in the same way as people can
• 35:28
  talk about Flat Earth all they want but the validity we give to those
• 35:32
  conversations are completely different because everybody knows that they're [ __ ]
• 35:37
  ridiculous yeah but that's not that's not the emphasis we put on these antia
• 35:42
  just yet no it seems to be a 6 I'm starting to get into that is I think
• 35:47
  more dangerous than anything else are The Sovereign citizens sure yeah it's all the
• 35:54
  same what not though like yeah yeah it's all that same type of thing and that's
• 35:58
  what I'm saying a lot of it is a gateway so that's what I'm saying a lot of these
• 36:01
  conspiracy theories are just as dangerous as each other and it all it's
• 36:06
  all it's all just asking questions isn't it yeah that's the almost like a dog
• 36:11
  whistle now I'm just asking questions and then as soon as someone says that
• 36:14
  okay yeah yeah the greatest response is do your own research resarch I have I've
• 36:20
  done all these experim and it's proen this have you I scroll all the way to
• 36:24
  the I saw this video on watched a lot of YouTube and I and and I always let it
• 36:29
  tell me what to watch next I watched I I
• 36:32
  read every comment in my Facebook feed
• 36:38
  yeah and I think too you're absolutely right there are conversations and
• 36:43
  discussions to be had but not by Joe Rogan and some guy who most of the
• 36:48
  medical community says is full of [ __ ] like and I saw a great uh take this week
• 36:54
  it was it was like Joe Rogan sees nine out of 10 dentists recommend you brush
• 37:00
  your teeth and Joe goes I want to talk to that 10th dentist he something to
• 37:05
  say yeah I will admit I will say that that n out of 10 dentist it's n out of
• 37:12
  10 dentist recommend a particular brand yeah I know I know it's
• 37:17
  just and it's because we paid those nine
• 37:21
  all right all right Joe Jesus Luke Alderson The Joe Rogan of
• 37:27
  this podcast yeah that's right MH how's your
• 37:33
  how's your lifting going your weight lifting in your MMA luk I I I could give
• 37:37
  it a go you guys ever watched MMA I don't get it yeah I've never really
• 37:41
  watched really not really the actually the reason why I don't like it is
• 37:46
  because of the games we get so I'm quite used to like getting boxing games but we
• 37:52
  don't get boxing games cuz MMA is well MMA is ruin all martial arts essentially
• 37:56
  because it came out and research proves thatone of them are good on their own
• 38:01
  and a combination of all of them is is You Luke Street Fighter 2 is a great
• 38:08
  game I don't no but or we don't get Street Fighter to or actually do we we
• 38:13
  do but that was the that was the the the the in my mind that was the promise of
• 38:18
  like MMA and UFC and all that was like get all these stars together and I'm
• 38:21
  like I get to watch E Honda fight it's who could get each other to
• 38:27
  the first and hug them the hardest it's all guys rolling around on the
• 38:33
  ground punching each other in the dick
• 38:37
  mhm yeah sweaty dick punching yeah cuz there was even announced that there's
• 38:42
  going to be a new um boxing game a new fight night coming out soon oh yeah and
• 38:46
  then they went not but the not before they finish working on the next MMA one
• 38:51
  and when um when those first I tried have my fighter as a boxer
• 38:58
  yeah but then you yeah exctly then they get me to the ground and I can't do
• 39:00
  anything but the early days not of MMA necessarily but I remember the UFC
• 39:04
  before it was what it is today and it literally was just matching up different
• 39:08
  disciplines against one another so it would be a little Kung Fu guy versus a
• 39:13
  big boxing guy and who would win who would win out of this but it didn't take
• 39:18
  long they kind of figured out they yeah they kind of figured out which ones are
• 39:21
  the best ones yeah that's right it's like actually the best is if if you're
• 39:24
  the biggest and the fastest and the strongest and also you just pin them
• 39:28
  down really early yeah if you can tie them in a knot that's the best way to do
• 39:32
  it that's right I do remember when it first came out and they was selling like
• 39:35
  the vhs's like in the plaza people used to go oh this is awesome like this is
• 39:40
  illegal they're not allowed to make or sell this I all like yeah they are it's
• 39:45
  it's a product that they're selling it's not there were some ear C that were a
• 39:50
  bit less sensor than they are these days we used always there I a series and
• 39:57
  there was a guy who was he did it was some um some kind of you know Fringe woo
• 40:02
  kind of Chinese martial art where they throw energy at at you oh yeah and it
• 40:06
  was yeah that's that's going to work against a BJJ guy well it's it's
• 40:10
  basically they're all they're all in know like it it's not real they're all
• 40:13
  in but but it's one of those things where you question whether the master
• 40:18
  has bought into his own [ __ ] now cuz all of his all of his students are like
• 40:22
  going along with it and so he thinks he really has powers and then yeah was he
• 40:25
  was fighting some kickboxer and just got [ __ ] murdered yeah yeah yeah I
• 40:30
  watched a great one where yeah well even just not magic powers but there was this
• 40:35
  guy who was just a Kung Fu Master tiny little guy like Yoda kind of guy you
• 40:39
  know and you're like okay and he was up against this huge muscular unit and
• 40:42
  you're like ah here we go but you know this guy's bigger but this little guy's
• 40:45
  got the skills the speed you know all of this no no no he got hit in the face
• 40:49
  once by a really big fist and was knocked out yeah no he's he's yeah he's
• 40:55
  torn his arms off not going to get far without those mate you know what it reminds me of
• 41:02
  those old um what was that Capcom arcade game that was it was DC
• 41:08
  versus oh um there was Marvel versus Marvel versus Capcom and then
• 41:15
  um Justice series which is like Mortal Kombat combined with DC yeah and it was
• 41:20
  like okay well I'll be Subzero well I'll be [ __ ] Superman yeah like I'll be
• 41:25
  the Joker you can't beat me
• 41:30
  yeah like okay I'm up against jug this is going to be over very
• 41:35
  soon I love those games because they always have a very dire serious DC style
• 41:40
  like story behind it and then it's just it's just fighting each other fighting
• 41:44
  yeah yeah just punching the [ __ ] out of each other did you guys I became aware
• 41:48
  recently that there is a sub genre a new sub genre of video games um called
• 41:55
  Haunted PlayStation 1 have have you heard of this and there's there's an
• 41:59
  official or kind of an unofficial collection that you can get of of games
• 42:04
  that they dubbed the hored PlayStation One games but it's now branched out into
• 42:08
  a genre and any game that kind of fits in is now considered to be this genre of
• 42:13
  haunted PlayStation 1 which is games made now indie games horror games but
• 42:18
  made kind of in that that old kind of
• 42:23
  32bit quas 3D style that PS1 games have
• 42:29
  um but like with a horr vent cuz you're right though because there's something
• 42:33
  about in particular like the first Silent Hill yes Silent Hill era exactly
• 42:38
  yeah the low res original and to Silent Hill too as well the they just the
• 42:42
  graphics weren't like great but they were just just so they had to kind of do
• 42:47
  more and the art style and it's just incredibly creepy that's why it's so
• 42:51
  foggy in Silent Hill literally because on the PS1
• 42:55
  you [ __ ] covered in fog that's right
• 42:59
  yeah yeah what was that one Z something from the same era where you had there
• 43:04
  were ghosts and if you took pictures of them you had a camera uh it was called
• 43:08
  Fatal Frame project zero called Fatal Frame in Japan and then it was called
• 43:12
  yeah project zero you're right yeah yeah um so I've terrifying game yeah yeah
• 43:18
  yeah but that's what I mean but so there's a there's a bunch of of new ones
• 43:21
  indie games that are on ichio and and a couple of them are on Steam and stuff
• 43:25
  too I've been I've been I I bought one yesterday called nobody
• 43:30
  lives under the lighthouse and um there's a bunch of others that like
• 43:36
  they're just and they look like Silent Hill essentially and and they that kind
• 43:41
  of janky 3D I'm just the controls the fact that the controls suck made it even more
• 43:48
  terrifying yeah you like can't turn in time yeah like pyramid heads coming down
• 43:52
  the hallway and you're like [ __ ] running into the wall like a
• 43:56
  [ __ ] and I was genuinely terrified by yeah project zero you you can run away
• 44:02
  but you've got to point that camera it and then it goes into first person mode
• 44:05
  so you've got to turn around and the ghost is going [ __ ] coming right at you
• 44:10
  terrifying and depending how far you're back like you didn't have the analog
• 44:13
  stick you had the d-pad yes on the original PlayStation the ghosts in that
• 44:18
  were like Japanese ghosts which [ __ ] terrifying yeah yeah yeah there's one
• 44:25
  thing terrify you or yeah the Western World got the ring and we had not seen
• 44:30
  the way that the Japanese did ghosts and it's [ __ ] awesome yeah that's right
• 44:35
  yeah yeah like that's yeah I can see why they're scared of that that's terrifying
• 44:40
  yeah that's right we've got some uh some Joss followup oh yeah
• 44:46
  apparently yeah kind of retroactive followup well you mentioned a couple of
• 44:51
  weeks ago that you'd watch the original Christy Swanson Buffy the Vampire Slayer
• 44:56
  and and uh while she was not molested because I think Justin wasn't
• 45:01
  particularly Hands-On excuse the p in that one just being being the writer and
• 45:07
  not the director but uh she's come out this week and said uh yeah we could
• 45:11
  assume he wanted to but he just wasn't couldn't get to us couldn't wasn't
• 45:14
  couldn't get close enough well this is probably still at the stage where he's
• 45:17
  in the oh she's very pretty so she probably wouldn't go for a guy like me
• 45:21
  stage cuz he didn't have the power to be able to flip the script and yeah
• 45:25
  Michelle tratenberg is this is his words in proba very it was
• 45:30
  probably very difficult for him working on that set seeing her and and not being
• 45:34
  able to touch it so we should probably B sympathy for him that's right yeah
• 45:38
  looking at the calendar if he had a tried she woulded him back old man's day
• 45:42
  where you just to touch these women no there isn't I'm just it's cuz I'm not
• 45:48
  the producer if only I could be the producer then they'd have to let me
• 45:52
  touch them cuz of the implication but she came out and said
• 45:57
  didn't touch me but I'm not at all surprised that he was a creep to all
• 46:01
  those other women but he certainly seemed like he wanted to essentially
• 46:05
  that's what she was saying yeah I told him to [ __ ] off but he certainly wanted
• 46:11
  it probably just him staring at her that's what I that's what I
• 46:16
  imagine on the other side just staring at her or not just like I've written a
• 46:21
  new scene oh what do I do in this scene bend over yeah you can see your BM
• 46:28
  you're wearing a very short dress cuz you're a cheerleader yeah okay thanks
• 46:31
  Jos thanks thanks mate she's in uh psych oh just thought I'd throw that out there
• 46:37
  cuz uh I think psych am I am I remembering that right is that the right
• 46:40
  show she's in Psych right is she yeah she's uh what's his name the detective's
• 46:44
  girlfriend who goes to jail oh yeah you know what I'm talking about yep yes well
• 46:50
  I can't remember his name it's been it's been a month since I watched the show so
• 46:54
  I've just completely forgotten everything about it yeah but yeah she is
• 46:57
  um Lassie lass that's right yeah Carlton Lassa she she's his girlfriend in it
• 47:02
  great but she's sort of she's aged but she's aged great like she looks amazing
• 47:07
  yeah she look good yeah she looks better than us how old is she she always better
• 47:12
  than us T years older than us it's not how to look better than us Le that's the
• 47:17
  benmark she looks better than us can you believe this beautiful woman looks better than
• 47:21
  us no I like she's got like at least 10
• 47:24
  years on us and she looks
• 47:28
  yeah Christy swansson is yeah 52 52 okay yeah she got 10 years and she looks
• 47:34
  younger than enough that's great guys I'll take you back to Jennifer Beal's of
• 47:38
  last week she's [ __ ] better looking in her 50s than she was in her 20s
• 47:42
  what's going on mhm no hope for is no no we just become
• 47:48
  producers can touch whoever we want then because we're such nice guys yeah they
• 47:54
  owe it to us he would can I can I say we don't if we don't touch him we might regret it
• 48:00
  forever yeah if I don't touch her now I might never get a chance what a [ __ ]
• 48:06
  cuz she won't feel she owes me later he got it he he agreed to do an interview
• 48:11
  so he could explain it no no you don't understand I if I didn't touch him I
• 48:15
  might have never got to touch him yeah if you think they didn't want
• 48:19
  to be touched then they definitely don't want to be touched
• 48:24
  now imagine if I'd waited
• 48:29
  yeah you don't want to be touched do you no see but back then I'm going
• 48:36
  toilet I'll be back in a minute then you probably would to let
• 48:40
  me oh what a knob yeah [ __ ] hell at
• 48:45
  least at least um at least Louis CK made some jokes about it you know about his own
• 48:51
  thing yeah you see his apology he's like yeah I like to jerk off in front of
• 48:56
  women he's like I assume everyone's got some weird thing that uh they like to do
• 49:01
  but everyone knows about mine he's like [ __ ] Barack Obama knows I like to
• 49:06
  jerk off in front of women ask first just don't do that that's all you got to
• 49:09
  do all you got to do is ask first ex yeah you can do that you just got to get
• 49:13
  permission to do it yeah or actually one one more step if they're your employees
• 49:18
  you're not even allowed to ask yeah yeah exactly yeah good point good point yeah
• 49:22
  I think we all learned that there's there's one extra step to consent which
• 49:25
  is if they don't feel they can't not consent it's not actual
• 49:30
  consent yes yeah the implication yes the
• 49:34
  exactly right nailed it years ago yeah
• 49:38
  exactly so Matt I saw that you're famous
• 49:42
  and that someone's selling your nfts for your music now I said we should get on
• 49:47
  to the nft thing man how many billions have you
• 49:50
  made I uh I've made none billions Grant that's not many billions man it's not
• 49:57
  many billions at all there was a big kafuffle this week about it it was uh
• 50:01
  what's Indie bits or something was it called so it's one one hit or hit piece
• 50:07
  bites was it called no no it was one
• 50:11
  piece or hit piece oh H website you know what yeah H that's right hit piece if
• 50:17
  we're going to name and change they decided they were going to they were
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  going to be nice and I'm going to create nfts of every artist in the world music
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  they were going to sell it for them they were just going to SLP everybody's music
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  into their system create nfts and sell them for you and then at some point I
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  guess I may I was going to get the money but it's you had to sign up to their
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  website and they would give you a part of it you're right I'll put an extra
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  step in there to know about it you had to know about it in the first place yeah
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  yeah yeah so and I'm still it's not quite clear what they were actually
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  selling either no cuz nfts just make no sense to me so before Matt could sue
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  them a whole bunch of other people sent them cease and desists and they have
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  since ceased and desisted well yeah luckily for me Lu for me they pissed off way bigger
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  fish and I just as soon as I saw it on Twitter I was like I SC lawyers this
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  will be taken care of very short said look we understand look we've got the
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  conversation started and but yeah like we we haven't done anything wrong is
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  what they were coming out and saying sorry we you're all upset about this
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  when everyone's just going you're selling my art with no contact no
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  permission no nothing it's illegal you can't do that mate yeah there was one
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  thing interesting I saw coming out of this and I don't understand how nfts
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  work but I was seeing one thing and if it was possible to sell your music as an
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  nft or a game or something so you own like that part of it but that was you
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  could actually like play that music play that game and then gave you the ability
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  to unell it and then so you could sort of trade in that and then the artist
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  also got I don't know if that's possible but I thought that was could be
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  something that good that could come out of this it's I mean we could go around
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  in circles talking about this cuz I feel like it's just not well defined like yes
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  that every time I think I understand it I don't and a good example is this week
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  I watched Johnny Depp right Johnny Depp's bringing out a line of nfts right
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  of painting that he has done of his friends and his dog right and I was
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  watch I don't know why I even watch this [ __ ] video but it was like a 4-minute
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  video and at about the 2-minute Mark I started thinking okay I'm I'm definitely
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  not going to buy one I'm definitely not but I can understand why if he's doing
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  these five paintings and you can essentially and he you know he's going
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  to con you know digitally convert them to nft and you could buy what is essentially a very
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  limited representation of a painting by Johnny Deb you know that's maybe that's
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  something that people are TR screenshot of no no but you wouldn't do it because
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  you wanted to own it you would do it because you wanted to have it appreciate
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  and value and sell it right you wouldn't do it just because you wanted this I
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  mean they've proven that with the single Pixel nfts that they've done but yeah
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  but then at the end he made 10,000 of them they're not even that limited you
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  know what I mean like I I thought it was just the five and I was like okay I I
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  guess I get it now you know they're very limited no he can make as many as he
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  wants what and but that's and like I mean listeners if I'm just being dumb
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  feel free to you know write and let us know and and help me understand I really
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  want to understand I actually have in my my little to-do app right there is I
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  have a to-do understand nfts try and figure out what I'm missing about nfts
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  because I'm I think I think I'm pretty technical like I'm you know I'm a
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  software developer I have a pretty technical understanding of things and I
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  I feel like I understand the technology just fine I just don't get what the [ __ ]
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  anyone cares about it right so I think the
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  is the scarcity right there's only one of them like you paint a thing it's a
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  physical thing there's only one there's only one right all nfts are is just an
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  artificial scarcity that we're just agreeing to right if we don't agree to
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  it then if I don't agree if I say I
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  don't care save as my copy of your nft
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  is exactly the same there is nothing different about it well I mean the
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  differ the blockchain is different what you actually see is the same what in the
• 55:27
  blockchain you could say that as well I'm saying I opt out of the blockchain
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  cuz the blockchain I who cares about that correct it's like it's like people
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  buy but if you didn't care about the use the mem if you didn't care about the
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  blockchain you wouldn't you wouldn't buy it I mean that' be you wouldn't buy
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  something just you wouldn't buy an nft because you wanted to look at it like that would
• 55:48
  be thing that that but I look I do like the idea if it could be used into it
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  replaces physical media so you sort of own it and it's something that you can
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  on sale trade in and then people are still getting a cut of it I I think that
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  could be something that could that requires everybody to just
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  play along because otherwise why would have to pay you for that's what that's
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  the that's what the economy is right yeah I suppose cuz if Johnny Depp said
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  I've painted five paintings and I've digitized each of them but I'm keeping
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  it to the five right make a copy of all you want to do is look at it he how to
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  do that isn't the power to stop me from making a copy that's that's that's my
• 56:29
  problem with this but but this is why I'm looking at sort of for more like a a
• 56:34
  video game or an album or something like you own it that you can got that you can
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  on sell cuz the one thing I hated about like the training market for video games
• 56:41
  is the only people making money there were like e games and game and stuff
• 56:47
  like people who made the games no cut of it this could be a way of that being
• 56:54
  something butt hey I don't want this anymore steam already does that though right you buy
• 57:00
  the game they give you a license to play it and they just don't let you sell it
• 57:03
  on now but they could just say you can sell them one now we don't need nfts for
• 57:07
  that well but is this the same as the talk that gets that to happen cuz Xbox
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  were also going to do the same thing when the Xbox one came out was going to
• 57:16
  allow you to sell your games and was going to give a cut but but I think I
• 57:20
  think you guys are focusing too heavily on the content I think this is more
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  analogous to you could photograph a dollar Bill and you could look at that
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  it would look exactly like a dollar bill but you can't spend
• 57:30
  it but then see I get what so it doesn't matter what they what well then what is
• 57:37
  the point of the art at all why not just why aren we just I think that's why some
• 57:41
  of them areally is Bitcoin it is it is just crypto
• 57:47
  right it's it's just a hash a string of letters and numbers it means nothing I
• 57:52
  just I don't understand why the art is associated with it at all
• 57:57
  so I don't know no and that's why I'm trying to move away from like that that
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  type try get into video I've just remembered there is one thing that
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  someone said that I was like okay that sounds like it could be useful was like
• 58:09
  tickets for things because if you had an nft ticket to enter an event it could
• 58:14
  not be scalped uh scalped or yeah it couldn't be scalped couldn't be uh you
• 58:19
  couldn't get fraudulent ones what they call that yeah you're right they could
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  trace it back they you they'd be like well who sold you this exactly yeah okay
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  EXA yeah well that was sold to this person why do you have it but what that
• 58:29
  is that that's not nfts that's just a a interesting use of blockchain do you
• 58:33
  know what I mean like that those are those are the positive ways blockchain
• 58:38
  technology could integrate itself into
• 58:41
  our lives in the future but yeah I I I completely agree but that said if people
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  are going to buy them [ __ ] let's make them and sell all right so what I should
• 58:52
  be doing is making nfts of my music apparently as yes that's what guess
• 58:56
  someone El someone else thinks there's value in it you might as well be the one
• 59:00
  pocketing the cash all right list as if you would purchase an nft of some of my
• 59:05
  music podcast at multiple nasm.com let me know because I was thinking you know
• 59:09
  I floated you guys a couple of weeks ago like let's make nfts of all our um
• 59:14
  segment names you know like I'll make I'll make one that's Nick Cage news and
• 59:18
  we'll make one that's dwarf watch etc etc etc and I was already imagining like
• 59:22
  if we actually did do that we'd have to suddenly change our tune and hope that
• 59:26
  no one listened to the older episodes where we're like nfts are [ __ ] scams
• 59:31
  and we' just be like Yeah we actually realized that there actually this hey I
• 59:35
  think we've been very honest from the start we will sell out in a moment and
• 59:39
  also I'm I'm perfectly happy to admit that I just don't understand it if
• 59:43
  someone can explain it to me I will retroactively say you know what I was
• 59:46
  wrong but right now I I just don't understand it and I do think it's a bit
• 59:50
  scammy if if you can if you can record yourself these people are scamming it
• 59:54
  saying what an enity is what the value is in a way we can understand and
• 59:58
  appreciate we'll play it on the show so if you are out there and you understand
• 1:00:03
  send it in let me say one one one more thing and then we can move on right
• 1:00:07
  let's say you do you do design uh Nick
• 1:00:10
  Cave news uh Nick Cage news M um right and we say there's only going to be one
• 1:00:16
  of them right so we we're making one of them and we sell it and then we go let's
• 1:00:20
  make another one yeah that's sold let's make another no reason we can't do that
• 1:00:25
  and you know what it's it's it's identical to the other one mhm so I
• 1:00:29
  don't know I just don't get it 10,000 Johnny Depp made 10,000 yeah and then
• 1:00:34
  someone else on the internet right clicks saves it makes another one cuz
• 1:00:38
  you can just make them cuz no one's stopping anybody from making these
• 1:00:41
  things don't get it yeah but blockchain doesn't say you own it if you just right
• 1:00:47
  click on it the new one it will the new one will I'm going to generate a new one
• 1:00:51
  oh yeah if you generate it yeah I'm going right click save as make another
• 1:00:55
  one yeah okay I just I don't understand what's stopping that anyway
• 1:01:01
  whatever well I mean yeah [ __ ] let's let's stop talking about
• 1:01:07
  it yeah I just wanted to point out that yeah Matt's rich now because someone
• 1:01:11
  stole it and sold it on his behalf yeah so if I'm not on the podcast in future
• 1:01:15
  you can just assume I'm off on my super yacht or something yeah yeah um sorry
• 1:01:20
  Steven Spielberg's super yach oh there's some Steven Spielberg news there is some
• 1:01:24
  Spielberg news there is but it's somebody wanting to [ __ ] a St Spielberg
• 1:01:28
  character so maybe we should wait till the after party and we should tease that
• 1:01:32
  as something to come back to yeah yeah yeah yeah all right good point if you
• 1:01:36
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• 1:01:39
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