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Reparations · Let's Ask the Mamas!

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  Speaker 1: We got a question for American mama's. Dear mamas, do
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  Speaker 1: you think anyone deserves reparations? Well, let's ask American mamas.
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  Speaker 2: Alma mama, she said in joining us.
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  Speaker 1: Now, our American mama is Terry Netedeville and Kimberly Burlson. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I have said on the show before that I think
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  Speaker 1: anyone who was a slave deserves reparations from people who
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  Speaker 1: own slaves. Now, we don't really have that in this
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  Speaker 1: country since slavery was abolished back in the eighteen sixties,
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  Speaker 1: not the nineteen sixties, but the eighteen sixties, but this
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  Speaker 1: is still something that keeps coming up. Do you think
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  Speaker 1: there's anyone in America who deserves reparations?
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  Speaker 3: Well, one thing that's kind of interesting about this topic
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  Speaker 3: is I just watched Crocodile Dundee and that was, like
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  Speaker 3: I think in the late eighties. Yeah, it was, and
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  Speaker 3: it was Cogan Hogan and the lady. Yes, he was awesome,
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  Speaker 3: but it was This topic came up because he and
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  Speaker 3: I don't remember the journalist's name, but Linda I think
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  Speaker 3: is the actress. They're sitting next to each other by campfire,
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  Speaker 3: and she asked him how he feels about the Aborigines
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  Speaker 3: claiming their right to get their land back. And I
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  Speaker 3: love what he said. He said, well, you see, I
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  Speaker 3: can't do the accent. Well, you see, these Aborigines, they
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  Speaker 3: don't own the land. They belong to it. It's like
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  Speaker 3: their mother. You see those rocks sticking up over there.
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  Speaker 3: They've been standing up there for over six hundred million
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  Speaker 3: years and they're still going to be there when you
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  Speaker 3: and I are long gone. So arguing over who owns
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  Speaker 3: them is like two fleas arguing over who owns the
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  Speaker 3: dog they live on. Aborigines are like all God's creatures.
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  Speaker 3: They just want the right to roam across the earth
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  Speaker 3: and be left in peace. It's that simple. I thought
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  Speaker 3: that was so interesting.
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  Speaker 2: So interesting. Well, growing up with a dad who had
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  Speaker 2: such a love for Indians, you know, he just the
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  Speaker 2: native Yes, he just felt like, you know that they
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  Speaker 2: were the ones that got their land taken from them. Kimberly,
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  Speaker 2: her house is full, my whole home, it's full of homage, yeah, artifacts,
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  Speaker 2: and it's and it's just there's almost a reverence in
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  Speaker 2: the way that she presents it. She's a decorator, so okay,
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  Speaker 2: very compecial, so Kevin and I we recently went to Tennessee.
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  Speaker 2: There's Gatlinburg in about an hour way is a place
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  Speaker 2: called Cherokee. So he wanted to go to the museum
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  Speaker 2: and we did, and so we're talking about it on
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  Speaker 2: the way there, and you know, I was talking to
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  Speaker 2: him about how I felt, you know, the way that
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  Speaker 2: Dad raised us and you know, we need to really
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  Speaker 2: appreciate and understand that things weren't fair. So when we
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  Speaker 2: got into the museum, it was so interesting because on
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  Speaker 2: the plaques right next to the picture or you know,
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  Speaker 2: how they would set up the whole, you know, uh
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  Speaker 2: like a display display of it, you could tell there
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  Speaker 2: was a little animosity towards the white man. They it
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  Speaker 2: would say the white man is full of hate. And
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  Speaker 2: came in. Yes, So so I'm you know, I love
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  Speaker 2: museums and I love to read everything. It drives him,
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  Speaker 2: like we went to the Titanic, and I love to
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  Speaker 2: read everything I possibly can. So he was right there,
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  Speaker 2: you know, being gracious to let me read everything. And
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  Speaker 2: he said, do you get the feeling? Can you kind
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  Speaker 2: of feel the anger that's.
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  Speaker 1: Rising up from the hate that's in the plaques?
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  Speaker 2: And I said yes, I said I've never been to
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  Speaker 2: a museum where you could sense it and feel it
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  Speaker 2: in the words. Usually it's ss.
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  Speaker 1: Facts, you know, but it was but you felt bitterness.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then you'd walk through another little area where
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  Speaker 2: it's this man in case that they built in over
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  Speaker 2: the intercom, it was him talking about the white man
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  Speaker 2: and what they did. One of them was a man
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  Speaker 2: that was a kid who was a twelve year old
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  Speaker 2: kid who was a white man who was raised by
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  Speaker 2: the Native Americans, so he was able to speak their language,
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  Speaker 2: and he ended up being a hero because he was
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  Speaker 2: able to be that in between, yes, exactly. And it
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  Speaker 2: was because of that that you started to sense a
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  Speaker 2: feeling of respect, mutual respect. And then you go into
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  Speaker 2: like then you get to the hall where the presidents
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  Speaker 2: were and you're like, oh god, they hated our presidents.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, and you saw and I can see where
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  Speaker 2: they come from because in the treaties into things, in
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  Speaker 2: those documents, we did some terrible things. We said we
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  Speaker 2: would do one thing, and then we came back and
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  Speaker 2: we completely lied. And they came in good faith thinking yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 2: we'll sign this, and then they were literally just trick.
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  Speaker 2: They were duped and it was so wrong, and I
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  Speaker 2: understood why the plaques got angrier and angrier. But I
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  Speaker 2: don't know how you extend any sort of reparations other
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  Speaker 2: than give them the same, you know, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: And this is where the complication comes in, because today
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  Speaker 1: we have the federal government money to Native American tribes,
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  Speaker 1: part of the government's reparations for Native Americans for having
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  Speaker 1: taken land just exactly as you said, and having broken
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  Speaker 1: treaties over and over and over. But when you look
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  Speaker 1: at the tribes that do the best and the tribes
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  Speaker 1: that do the word, the tribes have the highest incidents
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  Speaker 1: of alcoholism, the tribes that have the highest incidents of
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  Speaker 1: poverty and of crime, those are the tribes that currently
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  Speaker 1: live on reservations and are almost one hundred percent dependent
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  Speaker 1: upon government money. The tribes that don't have reservations, where
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  Speaker 1: the tribe members have actually integrated into American society, those
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  Speaker 1: are the tribes that have the lowest incidents of alcoholism,
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  Speaker 1: that have the highest economic mobility, and where the kids
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  Speaker 1: do the best the next generation. So what we're currently
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  Speaker 1: doing with Native Americans with a form of reparations has
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  Speaker 1: actually made the tribes that receive it worse off than
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  Speaker 1: those that are fully integrated into American society.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting if you.
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  Speaker 1: Like to ask our American mama's a question. Good our
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  Speaker 1: and things. So much.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you,