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2/9/26: New Epstein Revelations, Clintons To Testify, Bibi Pushes Iran War · Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

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  Speaker 4: Indeed we do so.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently the government drafted an announcement of Epstein's death dated
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  Speaker 2: the day before he died. I am not kidding, like
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  Speaker 2: this is the down the rabbit hole through the looking
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  Speaker 2: glass moment if we weren't already there. So we'll break
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  Speaker 2: that down for as long as as well as some
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  Speaker 2: other revelations powerful people that were involved. There's some important
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  Speaker 2: to wat she didn't yet again and once again to
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  Speaker 2: a sports betting just how much was wagered where there
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  Speaker 2: was there insider trading and we'll never guess what the
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  Speaker 2: answer to that one is. Olympians are speaking out and
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  Speaker 3: We are starting off with Epstein with some very very
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  Speaker 3: wild stuff, almost certain that eventually will get hit with
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  Speaker 3: All right, let's go ahead and start here with Epstein.
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  Speaker 3: There was a ad actually released by many of the
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  Speaker 3: Epstein survivors. We're going to go and put it up
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  Speaker 3: here on the screen just so you can see some
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  Speaker 3: of this in the background, many of them appearing on camera.
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  Speaker 3: They're saying on November nineteenth, twenty twenty five, the Epstein
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  Speaker 3: Files Act was signed. They cross out the line transparency.
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  Speaker 3: They three say three million files have still not yet
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  Speaker 3: been released. They have black you know, marks over their mouths.
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  Speaker 3: They're talking there about one of the largest sex trafficking
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  Speaker 3: conspiracies which has now been unveiled for everybody and calling
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  Speaker 3: for more of the release of the holding up pictures
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  Speaker 3: of themselves. It highlights, of course, you know, some of
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  Speaker 3: the central, most important people in all of this story.
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  Speaker 3: But most importantly, I think for all of our purposes,
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  Speaker 3: and they're asking their stand with us, it's time for
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  Speaker 3: Attorney General Pambondi to tell the truth. Let's do though,
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  Speaker 3: you know, continue now down the rabbit hole. As Christal said,
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  Speaker 3: genuinely unbelievable stuff. Let's go and put this up here
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  Speaker 3: on the screen. One of the most stunning documents yet
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  Speaker 3: that was uncovered. Great find for whoever was able to
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  Speaker 3: see this, because I would not have. I would not
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  Speaker 3: have been able to. They say, you know, couldn't believe
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  Speaker 3: this was real, so I double checked the dog website.
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  Speaker 3: The US Attorney Berman announced Epstein's death with letterhead dated
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  Speaker 3: the day before that he was found dead. Bill Barr
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  Speaker 3: announced Berman's resignation. Then less than a year later, Berman
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  Speaker 3: denied he was resigning and was then removed by Bar.
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  Speaker 3: On June twentieth, twenty twenty, Trump denied any involvement, but
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  Speaker 3: it was confirmed later in the reporting that in fact, Trump,
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  Speaker 3: who had Berman removed the rabbit hole is endless. This
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  Speaker 3: is from Clint Russell, one of the people who flagged this,
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  Speaker 3: and I mean, I think I do think it is
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  Speaker 3: genuinely unbelievable for immediate release Friday, August ninth, twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 3: Now you could potentially ask for innocent explanations, but the
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  Speaker 3: Department of Justice has not released anything as of yet.
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  Speaker 3: This information has been public now for forty eight hours
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  Speaker 3: or so. And you do have to just be like, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, look, I feel like I try
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  Speaker 3: to keep on my words very carefully. I'm always like
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  Speaker 3: I always say Epstein died. I don't say he was killed.
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  Speaker 3: I don't say he's kid suicide. It's just one of
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  Speaker 3: those like open questions. We don't really know what the
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  Speaker 3: answer is. We have the video which was released of
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  Speaker 3: showing another person going towards the se I mean you
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  Speaker 3: have you know, the guards were asleep, the cameras weren't working.
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  Speaker 3: There's actually a routine way with the camera resets every
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  Speaker 3: single night for some reason, according to the Attorney General.
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  Speaker 3: You've got the cell made, you know, questions, you've got
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  Speaker 3: the former guy who was in the MCC who's been
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  Speaker 3: on our show and is like, sorry, there's no.
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  Speaker 1: Way any of that happened.
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  Speaker 3: And so you know, you would actually be, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 3: the most responsible to be like, yeah, he probably was killed.
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  Speaker 3: I don't say it because I don't know definitively to
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  Speaker 3: be true. Then you see something.
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  Speaker 1: Like this, you're like, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, what
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  Speaker 1: else do.
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  Speaker 2: You say if it was the only thing and you
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  Speaker 2: didn't even I mean, you didn't go through even the
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  Speaker 2: whole list, because we'd be here all day. Here's the
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  Speaker 2: fact that, oh, we never found the noose that was used.
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  Speaker 2: What do you mean he was in a tiny jail cell.
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  Speaker 2: What do you mean we never found the noose that
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  Speaker 2: was he was, you know, allegedly himself with Oh, there
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  Speaker 2: happens to have been this orange, blurry figure that we
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  Speaker 2: all pretended that the Attorney General and the spectation that
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  Speaker 2: they all pretended didn't exist when they did their report
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  Speaker 2: on this.
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  Speaker 4: Oh that's interesting, what's going on with that? And then
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  Speaker 4: you have this, I mean, if.
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  Speaker 1: It was the only thing, yeah right, exactly, if it was.
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  Speaker 2: The only thing you could go maybe they just got
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  Speaker 2: the tate wrong. Maybe they just were being a little
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  Speaker 2: bit sloppy and they got the tate wrong. But when
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  Speaker 2: you look at this and you look at everything else,
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  Speaker 2: and then ah lo and behold this guy. The US
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  Speaker 2: attorney Berman was fired under very strange and contentious circumstances
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  Speaker 2: less than a year. You just got to look at
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  Speaker 2: this and go, like I mean, it becomes very very
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  Speaker 2: very hard to believe the official narrative. And of course
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  Speaker 2: a million people had plenty of motive to take this
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  Speaker 2: guy out.
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  Speaker 4: The other thing that.
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  Speaker 2: We learned that we talked about before is that his
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  Speaker 2: team was co They were looking at, hey, maybe we
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  Speaker 2: can cooperate, maybe we can name some names, maybe we
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  Speaker 2: can do a deal here. So quite to the contrary
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  Speaker 2: of Epstein feeling like I have no way out and
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  Speaker 2: this is it for me. I'm going to spend the
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  Speaker 2: rest of my life, which I'm very used to these
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  Speaker 2: coddal circumstances, I'm gonna spend the rest of my life
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  Speaker 2: behind bars. He was still exploring avenues and trying to
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  Speaker 2: work it and see what kind of a deal he
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  Speaker 2: could make. So I don't know, guys, it's this is
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  Speaker 2: just absolutely wild. The one thing, so this is identical
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  Speaker 2: to the official announcement that did ultimately go out from
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  Speaker 2: the government, with two exceptions.
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  Speaker 4: Number one, the day got updated to the day that
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  Speaker 4: he died.
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  Speaker 2: Number two, which at this point I'm like, maybe the
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  Speaker 2: conspiracies about him still being alive, maybe that's a possibility.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's so wild that I literally cannot rule
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  Speaker 2: anything out.
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  Speaker 4: At this point.
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  Speaker 2: So the day gets updated, and then the other thing
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  Speaker 2: that was added is that he was dead by a
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  Speaker 2: parent suicide. Those words got added in. Otherwise, it's identical
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  Speaker 2: to what ultimately went out, right.
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  Speaker 3: So okay, and remember this, I mean it's very possible.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's some potential about planning. But the thing
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  Speaker 3: is is that you look at some of the timing
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  Speaker 3: for all of this. The last guard check was on
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  Speaker 3: ten fifty PM on that Friday night. There was no
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  Speaker 3: check until six am. This is according to the official narrative.
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  Speaker 3: So official narrative should be that nobody knew he was
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  Speaker 3: dead until some six am. So it's not even some
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  Speaker 3: time zone thing that you could argue, like if you
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  Speaker 3: go back and you check the timeline again. According to
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  Speaker 3: the official timeline, nobody was supposed to know until about
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  Speaker 3: six So if that's the case, then there's no way
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  Speaker 3: that you could have drafted it in the like you said. Also,
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  Speaker 3: they added the term of parent suicide. We didn't even
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  Speaker 3: mention Michael Biden in the autopsy. That's actually one of
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  Speaker 3: the most That was one of the first things that
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  Speaker 3: convinced me where I was like, oh, man, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: this is Michael Bodden, right.
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  Speaker 1: He came out.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I know he's hired by the family, but look,
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  Speaker 3: he released his own findings talking about the hig O
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  Speaker 3: bone in the way that it would look if it
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  Speaker 3: was a strangulation versus a hanging.
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  Speaker 1: Also, we can't.
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  Speaker 3: Put these photos up there to just do graphic, but
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  Speaker 3: you can actually see the photos of the care that
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  Speaker 3: was for him after he had been found dead, and
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  Speaker 3: you can see the mark on his neck. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: one of the speculations was it a sheet. I'm telling you,
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  Speaker 3: I saw the mark.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a sheet.
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  Speaker 3: Like, there's no way that that would have left a
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  Speaker 3: mark like that. And that's just you know, my maybe
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  Speaker 3: I'm wrong. You could send me different ones, you know,
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  Speaker 3: if you find something else, But it's just one of
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  Speaker 3: those where I think it is just absolutely absolutely crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go to the next one.
• 8:50
  Speaker 3: We're going to continue in the You know, this is
• 8:52
  Speaker 3: the things are getting more unhinged as we go. The
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  Speaker 3: government put boxes covered in a sheet inside of a
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  Speaker 3: vehicle to trick the media. P was Epstein's body, it says,
• 9:02
  Speaker 3: due to the large news media presence outside the MCC,
• 9:05
  Speaker 3: a male OCMI official called and said he would be
• 9:08
  Speaker 3: arriving at the loading dock with a black vehicle in
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  Speaker 3: order to thwart the media and use boxes and sheets
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  Speaker 3: to create what appeared to be a human body, which
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  Speaker 3: was then put into the white vehicle, which the press followed,
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  Speaker 3: allowing the black vehicle to depart unnoticed with Epstein's body.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, that's where Why the cloak and dagger?
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Why why is this such a problem brought to I thought,
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  Speaker 2: the body? Why is that such an issue you've got?
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  Speaker 2: Is this typical procedure exactly in high profile cases that
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  Speaker 2: you have?
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  Speaker 1: He's dead? Why do you care about traffic?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I know this sounds well, it's true, Like
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  Speaker 3: this actually is true. You can go and check the
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  Speaker 3: file names for yourself if you want to. And you know,
• 9:44
  Speaker 3: we double checked on some of this, all right, so
• 9:47
  Speaker 3: this isn't this is another totally crazy one. Let's put
• 9:50
  Speaker 3: it up here so as they flag on this same
• 9:53
  Speaker 3: day that they opened a child sex trafficking case against Epstein.
• 9:56
  Speaker 3: In twenty eighteen, he ordered half a dozen fifty five
• 10:00
  Speaker 3: gallon containers full of sulfuric acid to his private island.
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: So what's up with that?
• 10:08
  Speaker 3: And look again, I'm reading the wire transfer form for
• 10:11
  Speaker 3: st you know, to Saint Thomas lsj E LLC. Purpose
• 10:16
  Speaker 3: and description times six fifty five gal drums sulfuric acid
• 10:20
  Speaker 3: with fuel and insurance charge for transport materials for conductivity probes,
• 10:25
  Speaker 3: replacement pH and cable dashro plant.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, maybe there's an exploit. You have private jets
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: all around. I don't know a whole lot about acid
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: and all this other stuff. I have read a decent
• 10:40
  Speaker 3: number of the plans around the island. I know they
• 10:42
  Speaker 3: waste water. You know, again, I'm not an expert. I'm
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: just saying like, that's one of those where you put
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: it together and you're.
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it's pretty creepy.
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: It's pretty weird, especially when you have massage rooms with masks,
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: you know, all over the island.
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: You have trapdoors, as one does.
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  Speaker 3: So this is apparently a photo that surfaced where it
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: was some trapdoor that was there on the which apparently
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: opens directly into the ocean. So again, I mean, what
• 11:12
  Speaker 3: are the innocent explanation here? Uh, this is where they're
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: dumping waste. This is where they're dumping something. You know,
• 11:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know, some maintenance maintenance. If you also own
• 11:25
  Speaker 3: a private island, please email me and tell me about
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: what I'm not familiar about.
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: What tell us about your sulfuric acid and ocean trapdoor
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: needs on your private island.
• 11:37
  Speaker 4: We're very curious.
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: Among this doesn't have ocean trap doors in our house.
• 11:41
  Speaker 3: I've stayed at some hotels and the beach not that great,
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: but they don't usually have trap door.
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: Again, maybe maybe I'm wrong.
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: Maybe every five star resort in the nation on a
• 11:51
  Speaker 3: beach has trap doors into the sea. Maybe it's certainly possible.
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's a scuba diving thing. Maybe it's a way
• 11:57
  Speaker 3: to access your septic tank, although I guess that wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: even make a lot of sense. I'm purely spiped. I'm
• 12:02
  Speaker 3: just telling you that these are the facts, and this
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: is what apparently shows up there. So yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 3: this is presented without comment because I don't have I
• 12:09
  Speaker 3: don't have a comment.
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know why else. I don't know why you
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: would need one.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you said in our pitch that advertisers get
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: uncomfortable with this look in fairness to them, I get
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: uncomfortable just too, because it's like, what was like, what
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: am I supposed to make of this? What is a
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: sane and rational, non hysterical person supposed to make of this?
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: Becomes it becomes increasingly difficult to not look at all
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: these emails, the way they talk to each other, all
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: of these weird things surrounding his death, the you know
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: emails where they say, oh did you did you torture?
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: I love the torture videos, etc. All the code words,
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: and not think that the even that it is even
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: darker and even more elaborate, and that he was even
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: more powerful than I ever could have imagined. To your
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: point about you know, putting all the all the different
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: things together that you're like, well, that's weird, weird, Well
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: that's weird. Well that's weird. Well we're going to put
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: it all together. It's really freaking weird. Another piece of
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: that is the way that the government has behaved. Recall, Okay,
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: so now we're supposed we supposedly we've gotten all the
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: Epstein files.
• 13:13
  Speaker 4: We're going to get right according to the government.
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: Now, Thomas Massey, Rocanna and others are continuing to push
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: Massy's being very aggressible. Talk a little bit more about
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: that in a moment, But just remember.
• 13:23
  Speaker 4: What cash Betel told you.
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: He told you that he looked at the files and
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: he is convinced, without a shadow of a doubt, that
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: Epstein killed himself, and that this was proven definitively by
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: the files that cash Bettel looked at.
• 13:37
  Speaker 4: Have we seen those files?
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: What was it that you were looking at that was
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: so persuasive to you that you went on in public
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: and said nothing to see here.
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: We're moving on.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and remind ourselves exactly what he said.
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  Speaker 4: This is a six let's play that.
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  Speaker 1: You told me when we last talked.
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  Speaker 3: This is eight months ago when we did an interview
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  Speaker 3: at the FBI in Quantico, that you were convinced that
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: Epstein killed himself in jail.
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  Speaker 1: Today, eight months after that, are you still convinced.
• 14:02
  Speaker 6: Yes, yes, sir, there is no credible information none. If
• 14:07
  Speaker 6: there were, I would bring the case yesterday that he
• 14:10
  Speaker 6: trafficked to other individuals and the information we have again
• 14:14
  Speaker 6: is limited.
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  Speaker 1: So the answer is no one for.
• 14:17
  Speaker 6: The information that we have in the files in the
• 14:21
  Speaker 6: case file.
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  Speaker 2: So he absolutely killed himself, Soger, and he didn't traffic anyone,
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: any girl to anyone.
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: There is nothing that has been released where you can
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: definitively say he killed himself, which is what Cash Betel said.
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: Cash Betel said, he definitively if anything like we saw
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: with the video, we got this thing. We had all
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: of the preponderance of evidence. Prior you had all of
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: the holes in the investigation. You had the I mean
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: the do even the DOJ initial report around the sleeping
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: guards and all this. None of that shit made any
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: sense period.
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  Speaker 1: But don't listen to me. Listen to Cash in twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 3: He's the one who said all of this, and he
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: had his hands on all of his information and this
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: is all. Eventually it came up with on the second
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: part about involving others. I mean, there's nothing that has
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: been a definitive smoking gun, and we should all be
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: honest about that. There are some like look, what are
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: the you know, threads that we would all tug on. Oh,
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know all these wire transfers to Russia. I
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: don't know all of these, you know, photos of creepy
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: old dudes with their uh with their collars open, smoking
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: cigarettes on the couch with a bunch of women chasing
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: girls around the kitchen. Oh, let's continue, Prince Andrew. I
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: don't can you even say hovering, like trapping this girl
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: like underneath him? Were they really there under their own volition?
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Maybe? But you know I was.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: I was talking to Scott Horton about this, and I
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: was like, look, I know libertarians think that it's not
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: a crime, and apparently the current justification is like, well,
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: they wanted to be there and they were getting paid.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, it is actually a crime though,
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: to like send a wire transfer to a foreign country
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: and fly women in the express purpose, Like that's actually
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: literally stays trafficking, like guards, especially right garlest Way. Yeah,
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: and you know, in Russia, as you may all learn,
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: or Ukraine, it's not like all these girls are willing
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: in the in the sense that they want, you know that,
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: like liberal sex worker types always try to put them
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: like sometimes they get kidnapped, sometimes their family or whatever
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: is threatened, Like it's not a willing enterprise.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: So just just putting that out there.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Or they're told they're going to be models, right, That's
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And they get to come to the
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: US on this special visa and they're you know, they're
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: going to be in high fashion and then next thing,
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, this is known, like, this is
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: reported out the way that modeling agencies were used as
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: pipelines for trafficking girls. And you know, and these guys were,
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: like Epstein and Trump by the way, deeply enmeshed in
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: these modeling agencies and clearly using that as a path
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: to gain access to girls and women.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh wait, Wow, this just just broke from the
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: UK Press news story on Prince Andrew Sorry, the former
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: former prince known as Andrew. Now police are assessing if
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: Andrew Baton Windsor shared confidential reports from his role as
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: the UK's trade envoy with Jeffrey Epstein. US Department of
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Justice appears to show Andrew sharing reports in twenty twin
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: with Epstein of his official visits to Hong Kong, Vietnam
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: and Singapore.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Wow, and this comes on the heels of Lord Mandelssohn
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: and being revealed and he's under investigation now for providing
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: inside information from inside the UK government directly to Epstein,
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: tradable information that he was providing directly to Epstein in
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: the midst of the two thousand and eight financial christ
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: crisis and plotting with him and you know, to try
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: to see what, you know, how they could loop Jamie
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Diamond in to put pressure on the government to make
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: sure this like banker bonus limit thing didn't go through.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean that would be.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: It shows you too, like all the questions about how
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: he made his money clearly, clearly insider trading was some
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: significant component of that. And then you can see what
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: the bill gates, you know, email he sent to himself
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: the way that he would get something over like not
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: over on someone, but he would gather some sort of
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: compromising information on them, and then if they tried to
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: back away from the financial relationship, it was like, oh no, no, no,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: let me just, you know, subtly and not so subtly,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: remind you of the various things I know about you
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: and the way that I can destroy your life, your brand,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: your marriage, your family, whatever.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Let's continue, shall we?
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: By the way again to cash his whole point about
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: how nobody else was found to be implicated. Let's put
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: a eight please up there on the screen. You can
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: see inside of this document, this is a great flag
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: by this journalist, they say. Buried in the footnote of
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: the Gallaine Maxwell's court filing, she makes the bombshell claim
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: that there were twenty five accomplices of Jeffrey Epstein entered
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: into secret settlements, and that there are four unnamed employee.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Co conspiras that's almost certainly as secretaries.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: The fact is Maxwell is no longer content with conditions
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: of a confinement. She has tasted this glimpse of freedom
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: and appears determined to push for more. After losing her
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: appeal in the Supreme Court, she has filed habeas corpus.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: This is the legal equivalent of a last resort. It
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: asks the court to overturn the conviction on the grounds
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: that it is so fundamently unfair on costitutionally can't stand.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: So just to show that she has a lot of
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: other stuff that she can point to, and in that
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: petition that twenty five accomplices. She also asserts that the
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: four Epstein employees were co conspirators and never charged like herself.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: If you will all.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Remember this is tracing back to the non prosecution agreement.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: But if you combine this with some of the other reporting,
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: let's put a seven up there on the screen, just
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: to give you an example. The FBI at one point
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: had actually posted a twenty one page presentation of all
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: the evidence they had gathered in the case, including a
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: summary of allegations against eleven men. The list was then
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: taken down after this was flagged by Julie K.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Brown over at the Miami Herald.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: So just to show you again, like the idea that
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: the FBI didn't have information, maybe they didn't have prosecutable information.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: I'm just telling you though, that at this moment, the
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: idea that they did not have information or potential leads
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: and all of that on various relative this is just
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: completely not true.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, completely not true.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: You won't be surprised that a number of the names
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: in here, and one of the names identified by the
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: FBI as a prominent man for whom significant allegations had
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: been leveled against was President Trump. So look to your point,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: does any of this, like, is this meet the evidentiary
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: standard that would have to hold up in court. No,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: it doesn't appear based on what we have publicly were
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: these things investigated. You know what happened with all these tips?
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Were they investigated? Where's that information? Were you able to
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: dispel all of you know, these allegations against all of
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: these various powerful men. And then I think the Gallaine
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Maxwell thing is worth dwelling on, because again, where does
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: she sit right now? She sits in a club fed
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: minimum security prison that's supposed to be for white collar criminals.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: She is not supposed to be there at all as
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: a sex offender.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: Number one, number two.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Even within that, she's getting all kinds of special cushy
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: treatment with her puppy and her access to you know,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: electronic communications and her private ability to wander the grounds
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: by herself and get visitors in the ward and saying
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: that he's sick of be in her bitch. Okay, So
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: she is playing some sort of a game here, And
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: now this to me reads like a shot across the bow.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: Who are these.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Twenty five men that apparently Struck deals according according to her,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: in this legal filing, that apparently Struck deals with the
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: with our government to be able to, you know, make
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: this whole thing go away.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Who are they? And why did.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Our government have an interest in striking those deals with
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: those individuals. If if what she is alleging here is true,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: that would be a significant thing to know. Thomas Massey,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I believe today, says that he is going to be
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: reviewing a number of the unredacted files. He's supposed to
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: have access to the entire cash of unredacted files, and
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: he was asking people, Okay, what should I look for
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: in this?
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: You know, limited time that I have to go in.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: So he's continuing to push forward, and you know, let's
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: go ahead and take a listen to the aggressive posture
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: he is taking. He's saying he will use the nuclear
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: option if the DOJ refuses to unredact the names of
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: the powerful men that are associated with this.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Because remember, in this.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Release, according to the law that Massey and Conna pushed
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: through and were able to get passed and signed into
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: law by President Trump, there are very limited reasons that
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: you are allowed, legally permitted to redact.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: Okay, they have.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Clearly gone far beyond that while screwing up and leaving
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: unredacted a number of the victims' names and likenesses. So
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: let's go ahead and take a listen to Thomas Massey
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: in the way he's continuing to try to fight here.
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: I'm ready to do that if the victims want me to.
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: They believe that the best way to get justice is
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: to force the DOJ to release these names. I've already
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: read one name in a committee with the FBI director there.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: That's just Staiway. And again, he may or may not.
• 22:54
  Speaker 7: Be guilty, but he's been accused by these victims that
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: the lawyer tells me. And there are other names. I
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: don't have them in my possession, but if the victims
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: want to give them to me, I've expressed it. I'm
• 23:07
  Speaker 7: willing to do that. But again, the best way is
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: to force the DOJ to release those names on those
• 23:12
  Speaker 7: three or two forms.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: And I just can't give enough credit to both Rocnam
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: but Thomas Massey. I mean, he is taking so much
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: incoming from President from Apak over his unwillingness to sign
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: on to these like ZENA speech codes. He was I
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: don't know if he saw this video floating around. He
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: was back in Kentucky at an Olden County which is
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: like a suburb of Louisville Republican Party event, and he
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: was speaking and he was saying, you know some just
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: very basic things about how he doesn't serve you know,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: at any one party, he serves the people of the
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: country and may bold his mic from him. So you know,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: clearly he has really touched a nerve and the fact
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: that he's a Republican and he has a large following too,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: and like a lot of you know, credibility, and I
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: think people like myself who don't agree with him on
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: any number of his it was like we're night and
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: day when it comes to economics, for example. You have
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: to respect this man and his integrity because he is
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: truly risk you, risking it all here to push for
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: the truth and to push for more transparency.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Very rare breed.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, rare breed in Washington, and yeah, I mean I've
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: come you have disagreed with him plenty plenty times in
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: the past, but on this it's just it's unbelievable to
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: see somebody's stand and you know, really, this is what
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: the house is for. You need an ilhan Omar, you
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: need a Thomas Massey. That's what the house is designed for,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: is to you know, have the actual full spectrum, and
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: they end up sometimes being our best members.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: So there you go.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: All right, let's get to the next part here, this
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: is about Glaine Maxwell and her relationship with the Clintons.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Let's put this up here on the screen. Epstein files
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: reveal scope of Glaine Maxwell's role in the Clinton circle
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: and specifically raising some one million dollars for the Clinton
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Global Initiative, and they specifically say that she took part
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: in the budget discussions related to the first CGI conference,
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: talked through challenges with both Clinton Aids, the company that
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: produced the inaugural event, and arranged to wire a million
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: dollars quote for the work on the Clinton project. The
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: source of the money is unclear, including whether mister Epstein
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: provided the funds. However, the email show that he was
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: aware of the payment. Epstein at one point wrote to
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: her quote ask him to tell you why I million
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: now and where it will be going? So maybe it
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: was his money, wasn't it. All of this is took
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: involvement took place in two thousand and four before the
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: six indictment, but it shows how deeply and I mean,
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: remember this is a woman invited literally to the Clinton
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: wedding in that infamous photo, and how deeply she was
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: enmessed with the Clinton family, who after you know, they
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: lose the White House, or after they lose in two
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: thousand or I get sorry, not lose, but.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: They leave the White House.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: They're obsessed with one thing, how do I become generationally
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: wealthy as quickly as humanly possible and whitewash my image
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: from the Lewinsky scandal.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: So what do they do?
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Hillary runs for Senate, She becomes the carpetbager and chief
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: from New York. And Bill, who moves to New York,
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: is like, I'm gonna double down on all this humanitarian
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: work with my Clinton Global Initiative. Except the Clinton Global
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Initiative I covered so much of this during the Clinton
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: campaign becomes a slush fund basically for the Hillary administration
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: and waiting wiring tens of millions of dollars from across
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: the globe. In many cases, you know, different governments are
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: sending them money expressly to set up meetings with Hillary
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: because she was the former secretary of State. She's going
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: to become, you know, potentially the next president, which is
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: what everybody thought back in twenty sixteen. And Clinton himself
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: also used it as a reputational machine which he can
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: fly across the world private, you know, in jets for
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: the rest of his life basically for humanitarian work. Glenn
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: Maxwell Epstein very critical nodes in all of that, sourcing
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: sketchy money, that's what they do. So this just proves
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: already the depth of the relationship, which of course we
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: did know that, but it's pretty amazing to see Epstein
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: there being like, yeah, ask him, you know, tell them,
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: ask him to tell you why I'm sending you a
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: million dollars, Like that's crazy, crazy stuff.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: It's interesting in all of this.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, clearly Glaine was really on the inside with
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: the Clintons, yes, and Epstein recognized obviously that this is
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: another powerful, you know, note of power that he wants
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: to be in with and so, you know, the CGI
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: money and fostering this relationship appears to have been a
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: strategic play from him, unsurprisingly. And you know, the other
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: thing that's interesting in this reporting is that and again
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: this is not surprising, but it's interesting to see it
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: lay down. Bill Clinton saw Davos in how much influence
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: it had and how powerful it was and what a
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: brand builder it was, and he was like, ah, that's
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: what I want to do. I want to do my
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: own version of Davos with like you know, liberal more
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: overtly liberal humanitarian bent rather than Davos is focused around
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: like business elites exclusively.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: Is like, let me do that.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: I'll have the business elites, but I'll also have like
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: the global humanitarian class as well. And so that's really
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: the birth of the Clinton Global Initiative. So not only
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: do they want to amass money, but they also wanted
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: to amass power and be the central node in this
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: sort of like global influence network that.
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: Was that was the whole thing.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: So of course Jeffrey Epstein's going to want to get
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: involved with that, right, He's like, this is my this
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: is my whole bag, this is what I do. Let
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: me see how I can get myself involved here.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: The other thing to keep in mind is like Soccer
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: was saying, you know Galane being there at Chelsea's wedding,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: and weren't Hillary and Bill at Trump and Milania's wedding
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, Like in Avanka and Chelsea were friends.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: You know, we think of them as these bitter rivals.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: They were in the same social circles. They were going
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: to each other's events, supporting each other's thing, going to
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: each other's weddings.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Et cetera.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: They are all part of the same class, the Epstein class,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: and Ryan.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Ryan was saying, like, in some.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Ways, the class solidarity of the of the billionaires and
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: the global elites, it's rather inspiring.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: They really, they really are there for each other. They
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: really have this Titanit network. And I think that's important
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: for all of us to keep in mind. And that
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: came out very clearly in this recent Trump comment where
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: he gets asked about Bill Clinton. Now, the backstory here
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: is Clinton has been subpoena to come testify before Congress.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Initially he was saying, no, I'm not going to do it,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: and you know, I guess was willing to risk jail
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: time the way Steve Bannon went to prison for, you know,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: refusing to appear in spite of being subpoena. He has
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: now changed his mind, and we can put this up
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: on the screen and say, okay, fine, I will testify.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: And he says, here, I have called for the full
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: release of.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Abstein Vias, I've provided a sworn statement of what I
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: know just this week. I've agreed to appear in person
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: before the committee. Still not enough for Republicans on the
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: House Oversight Committee. He goes on to say now Chairman
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Comer says he wants cameras, but only behind closed doors.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Who benefits from this arrangement. It's not Epstein's victims who
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: deserve justice, not the public who deserve the truth. Serves
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: only parties and interests. This is not fact finding. It's
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: pure politics. I will not said idly as they use
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: me as a pro in a closed door kangaroo court
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: by Republican party running scared if they want answers, Let's
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: stop the games and do this the right way, in
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: a public hearing where the American people can see for
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: themselves what this is really about.
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: So Bill Clinton is.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Set to testify, you know, after having been subpoenut and
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: again Clinton Trump, same circles, you know, same contacts, et
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: CETERA big question what Bill might be able to say
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: about Trump and his associates and what exactly is going
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: on with this whole Epstein situation.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: And so now when Trump gets asked about Bill Clinton,
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: about Hillary Clinton.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Suddenly you know they're good people, actually, actually really really
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: kind of like these guys.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: Le's take a little bit of that.
• 30:37
  Speaker 8: It bothers me that somebody's going after Bill Clinton. See,
• 30:41
  Speaker 8: I like Bill Clinton. I still like, Bill, What do
• 30:43
  Speaker 8: you like about him? I like, well, I liked his
• 30:46
  Speaker 8: behavior toward me. I thought he got me, he understood me.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: I like Bill Clinton.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: He understood me. He says Hillary, He's just a very
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: accomplished woman. Ultimately, you know, very different. When he got
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: asked about Gallaide Maxwell in the first administration, he said,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: you know what, I wish her well.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I do want to say I
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: support Bill Clinton for public publicly testifying.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I support that one hundred percent.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: Let's let's do it with the camera, and there's nothing
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: better to see Bill.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Look, he's smart.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: You know, he's a wiley, wiley Fox. He had plenty
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: of Lewinsky dodging and White.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: What was that scandal? White?
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Whitewater Man? It's a throwback. It's been the Rose Law firm.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Google it just if you want to go and relive
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: some of the nineteen nineties. But the whole point with
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: the Clintons, obviously is that I'm glad that they're going
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: to testify publicly, and ultimately it's nice that they are
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: being forced to actually actually have to come and answer
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: some questions. But you know, the bigger point is it
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: reminds me that George Carlin quote like it's a big
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: club and you're not in it, and that's really what
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: it is actually all about. And it's right that famous
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: photo of George W. Bush in that selfie with Michelle Obama,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: and they're like kindness. I'm like, no, there's nothing cool
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: about that. Yeah, like sorry, no, actually like Bush, no,
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: there's we don't. We don't do that with people like
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: George Ry Bush or And this is why the whole
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Dick Cheney thing bothered me. I'm like, they're like, oh,
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: he died a hero. I'm like, oh, because he stood
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: up to Trump. I'm like, oh, he's to die a hero. Really,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: I guess it's been long enough. I could speak ill
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: of the dead if you remember whatever we had to
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: react to his death. We're like, well, you know, yeah,
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: he's dead. Okay, but yeah, And that's how I feel
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: about Dick Cheney. That's how I feel about Fauci. They're like,
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: there's like a small list of people who I'm like, no,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: fuck you till the day he died, Like I literally
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: don't care about you at all. Well you shouldn't, you know,
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: be resuscitating your image or any of them.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: No, George W. Bush absolutely not, absolutely not.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: And again to you know George, the Bushes and the
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Trump supposedly this bitter rivalries. I mean remember Bill Barr,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: who is Attorney General at the time that Epstein dies.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: He also served in the H. W. Bush administration, Like
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: that's where he comes from. And his dad, of course,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: famously is the one who hires Jeffrey Epstein at the
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Dalton School in spite of the fact that Epstein had
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: no qualifications to be put in, you know, in that
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: position at this very prestigious school. Donald Barrows, so I
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: wrote a very strange oh I know, try sci fi
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: book about you know, some like sex slave, enterprise, etc.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: As You can go look that one up too, if
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: you really want to go super down the rabbit hole.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: But in any case, so much more connectivity and so
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: much more shared interests between all of these people than
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: the enmity that they like to portray publicly, very very true.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: All right, let's continue. This one is so wild.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: So I had known and we Ryan did a story
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: about the Rothschild relationship with Epstein, obviously significantly important just
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: because it was one of the most powerful banking houses
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: in all of Europe. Long of course, you know, been
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: connected to the rise and fall so many of the
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: power brokers on the continent, but with their relationship with
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: Epstein was not only deeper, but directly tied to our
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: own country in our government. Let's put this up here
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: on the screen. I had no idea about this. It
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: says how the House of Rothschild became entangled with Epstein.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: What they specifically point to is that back in twenty fifteen,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: in December, months of turmoil, the Swiss private bank owned
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: by the Rothschild dynasty was closing in on a multi
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: million dollar settlement with the US Department of Justice for
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: its part in helping rich Americans hide their assets. Behind
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: the scenes, the group's French chief, Ariandi Rothschild had tasked
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein and the lawyer he had introduced her to,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Kathy Rummler, who you will all remember former Obama Whitehouse
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: official Deputy White House Chief Council, with closing the deal.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Here's how the exchange went. Forty five mio. Question mark,
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: as we casually throw around these numbers, Rothschild asked Epstein
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: in December twenty fifteen. He replied, counting a ten million
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: dollar fee for the lawyers and twenty five million for
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: him a quote, I think you will find all less
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: than eighty pretty good, she responds, deep thanks for your help.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Days later this gets announced. The Department of Justice literally
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: just days later, puts out this announcement saying Justice Department
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: announces joint resolution with two banks under the Swiss Bank Program.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: The Department of Justice announced today that Edmond de Rothschild
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: and Edmond de Rothschild SA have joint reached a joint
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: resolution under the Department's Swiss Bank Program. Eder Switzerland will
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: pay a penalty of more than forty five million, make
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: a complete disclosure of the cross border activities, et cetera.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: There is no public reporting at the time to indicate
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Epstein's role, but you will remember here we now have
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: a deal broker by a private Swiss bank, the Roschald
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: I mean literally one of the richest families in the
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: history of Europe, who is working with Jeffrey Epstein days
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: before and pays him twenty five million dollars potentially for
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: what reason, not just Kathy Rumler, but maybe for the
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: connection finder's fee, some sort of influence where he is
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: able to negotiate this deal on behalf of this bank
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: and the US Department of Justice to the point where
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: you can all see it and go back and read
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: there's no mention of him.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: What role did he play? Who did he call?
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: I mean that if anything shows the extent of influence
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: that is that, right, there is true influence a private
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Swiss bank, the richest, some of the richest people in
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Europe who call you and they're like, hey, man, twenty
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: five twenty five million for what? For a forty five
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: million dollars settlement there's announced, but you got to be
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: pulling some serious strings to merit more than half of
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: what the overall settlement is going to be, on top
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: of the legal fees which are already factoring for this.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: What were they paying for? Nobody knows, Yeah, nobody knows.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: But it was announced just like they said, cool, forty
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: five mil. Exactly what he was saying, forty five mil.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: This is how it's going to go. I can make
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: make sure this all happened. I'm assuming you don't just
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: get paid somebody twenty five million dollars for nothing. So
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: that is a very very significant one shows his level
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: of influence. Seriously, like what who did he call and
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: what was he able to do to secure something like this,
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: because they'll pay anything to make something like that call.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And you know, you look at these emails, you
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: see elaborate communication with Arianna de Rothschild. You know, they
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: clearly have a very friendly relationship or she's downplaying, the
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: bank is downplaying at this point et Saturday.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: You can read their statements, but were really chumming.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: You know, she was asking for advice on all kinds
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: of personal messy matters that were going on within the family,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: and he's there as the like sounding board and you know,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: reliable friend for her to you know, bounce ideas off of,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: et cetera, and then is involved in this very direct,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: extremely significant, important way. I just saw this one that
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: just Murtaza Hussein just pulled up that it looks like
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Epstein may have met with MBS three days before Jamal
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Kashogi was murdered.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: And then we also had those other emails where he
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: was talking about it and he was oh, I think
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: those were were those with Bannon. I think where he
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: was texting back and forth in that particular exchange where
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: he's talking about his theories about what happened there, you know,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: And that's another question that you have inside knowledge on
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: that one as well. But you just can see all
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: of these connections with the most powerful people in the
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: entire world. And you can also see from his communications
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: for example, with you know, with Peter Teel and with others,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: and how they sort of view the world as just
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: their play thing to exploit, you know, with Libya, like, oh,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: let's you know, I think there's all kinds of money
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: that can be had there, and talking about how the
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: most financially profitable thing for them is global collapse and
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: chaos and war and that that's you know, what they're
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: what they actively hope for and wish for. I mean,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: you just see the way that they view things and
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: how he ends up somehow ends up in connection with
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: all of these really powerful people at all these extraordinary
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: moments in history. And you know, with this one with
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: the Rothschilds, why it's so significant is because he directly
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: appears to have had a hand in exactly what this
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: settlement looked like down to the dollar amount, so it
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: is completely wild. One more here, let's put a fifteen
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: up on the screen. You guys will recall because we
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: played it for you before. Howard Latnik Oh my god.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I met my wife and I met Epstein, our next
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: door neighbor in New York City one time, and we
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: were so disgusted that we said we will never have
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: anything to do with him whatsoever.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: He lied.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's just blatant, blatant lie. Now, I guess
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: the best. Your baby forgot all of these interactions that
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: he had with Epstein over the years. But let me
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: go ahead and read this from the New York Times.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: How we are latink. President Trump's billionaire commerce secretary interacted with
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: the sex offender Jeffrey Epstein regularly over.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: At least thirteen years while they lived.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Next door to one another on Manhattan's Upper East Side.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: They invested in the same privately held company together. Okay,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: so they were not just casual. They happened to mean
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: the same social circles. No, I mean there was that too,
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: but they literally were business partners. You think that escaped
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: his memory. He just forgot about that little detail with
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: regards to his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Then it goes
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: on to say they dealt with one another on neighborhood
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: and philanthropic issues and appear to have socialized in New
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: York and in the Caribbean. The record show mister Epstein
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: at one point even sought to meet with mister Lutnix Nanny.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: The records directly contradict mister lutnix assertion on a podcast
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: last year he had been so disgusted by mister Epstein
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: during a two thousand and five visit to his townhouse
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: that mister Lutnick had never set foot in a room
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: with mister Epstein again. Quote So, I was never in
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: the room with him socially, for business or even philanthropy,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: mister Lutnick said in an interview on the podcast pod
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Force one reached Bristly by phone last week, mister Lutnix said,
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: I spent zero time with him. In any functioning society,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: this man would be fired. He would resign in disgrace,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: caught brazenly in a lie around this criminal pedophile, sex trafficker,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: and he would never be heard from again in public life.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: That's what a functioning society would look like. Instead, we
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: know he will bear no price for this, There will
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: be no problem. If anything, his associations with Epstein helped
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: him get the gig. If anything, right, So, the fact
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: that we now know dead to rights. This man was
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: lying to our face in the most shameless way. We'll
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: have zero, zero consequence for him and his future true actor.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Yes that is I mean not only do I agree,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: but look again at the UK government and how they're
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, Kirre Starmer, a labor leader this morning, is
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: calling for him to resign over the Epstein scandal. The
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: Mandlsit thing has blown up their government. I saw that
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: a Norwegian senior official was removed because of her links
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: to EPs.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, these way less.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Than what we're talking about here with Lutnik, right, because
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: these people are just embarrassed by what happened. They didn't
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: come out and say, oh I never saw him again,
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: and then you have all of these negotiations behind the
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: scenes of the fact that he is a neighbor, which
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: it already had raised questions. I had found an email
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: where Epstein wanted to hire Lutnix Butler or something like
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: that from back in the day, and I was like, oh, well,
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: you know, okay, can't you couldn't prove whether any of
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: that happened. We know you put it all together, and
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: you're like, of course they knew each other. They knew
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: each other very very well, which just goes to the
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: point about how it's a big club. None of us
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: are in it. We can now just tiny glimpse into
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: how power and all of that operates.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: If you have enough.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: Money, people will look the other way, or they'll actively participate,
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: or they'll have knowledge and just you know, kind of
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: be quiet about it as it's all an internal protection club.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: You can be a genius when in fact, all you're
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: really doing is insider trading. You know, that's one thing
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: for the Epstein defenders. Prove to me how he made
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: his money. Proved to me how he made his money?
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: Was he really really good at what he did? Find
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: me a great financial Find me like, who's the guy
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: who we cover renaissance whom I can't Jim Simon right,
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: a Jim Simon figure or Ray Dalio to sit down
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: and be like, here's why he was a master trader.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Nobody said any of that. Nothing. He was just a criminal.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: That's it, period blackmail and then put you know, insider
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: trading and social connections, that's it. That's all it took
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: to make all these billions. And then you know, the
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: bigger question is like where did all the money go?
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: Who is a wired to And remember there's literally over
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: a billion dollars in suspicious activity reports sitting in the
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: US Department of Treasury right now, which is yet to
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: be released. Ye, that's where the real stuff is.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: And that insider trading nexus seems like the easiest place
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: actually where you could get cutions.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: And I think that's going right in the UK for sure.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: And the last thing I want to say is we
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: don't talk as much about the Epstein ranch in New Mexico,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: and it appears they never rated it, they never investigated there,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: even though we know from you know, significant reporting and
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: more details added through this latest release that he wanted
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: to use that ranch as this sort of like you know,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: as has spread his seed eugenics breeding ground project.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: That was what he wanted to do.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Now did he accomplish that, and who was involved and
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: was it, you know, Bika, was it consensual or was
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: any of this against their will, et cetera.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: We're never going to probably know.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: And the other thing is he had connections in the
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: same way that he you know, paid off a bunch
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: of Virgin Island politicians to be able to do whatever
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: he wanted on his private island. He also was deeply
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: enmeshed with a number of New Mexico politicians, including the
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: former governor. So you know, I think that angle has
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: been wildly you know, invisibilized and unexplored as well. So
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: it's just, I mean, it's sick. What else can you say?
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: And you see the way that it operated as there
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: was this sort of like mutually assured destruction among all
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: these powerful people, and that's how they sort of built
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: these I mean, it's sick, but that's how they built
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: these relationships of trust. Is like I know, you can't leave,
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: you can't blow the whistle because I know you know
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: what I did and I know what you did, and
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: you know. And Epstein seems to have been a master
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: at manipulation. You know, in so many of these communications,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: whether it's with business partners or world leaders or with
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: you know, girls or women that he's exploiting. The emotional
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: blackmail and manipulation is very clear in his communications. So
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: he seems to have been a master of manipulating this
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: you know, elite power circle that he was one one
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: note of.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: All right, let's get to Iran. Speaking of elite power circles.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: Turning now to the stitchuation, with Iran. Things fast moving
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: here in Washington, some potential signs of a deal, though
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: Trump really all over the place. He was asked about
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: it aboard Air Force one. Here's the latest about talks,
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: as Benjamin that and Yahoo is heading to the White House.
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: Let's take a listen.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: We likewise had very good talks on Iran. Iran looks
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: like it wants to make a deal very badly. We
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: have to see what that deal is. But I think
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: Iran looks like they want to make a deal very badly,
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: as they should. Last time they decided maybe not to
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: do it, but I think they probably feel different they
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: We'll see what the deal is. It it'd be different
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: than the last time. And we have a big armada.
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: We have a big fleet heading in that direction, would
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: be there pretty soon, So we'll see how that works
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: out with Iran.
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: Is there a deal that early covers nuclea that would
• 45:48
  Speaker 7: be acceptable to you, because they don't. They just want
• 45:50
  Speaker 7: to have nucula.
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: They don't want to have anything else like it would
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: be acceptable, but the one thing, and right up front,
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: no nuclear weapons. If we could have made that deal
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: years ago, we would have made that deal, but they
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: weren't willing to do that. Now they are willing to
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: do it. So they're willing to do much more than
• 46:06
  Speaker 5: they would have a year and a half ago, or
• 46:10
  Speaker 5: even a year ago.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: We don't forget.
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: We've only been doing this or exactly one year, and
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: we started with them a few months after the beginning
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: of the sturb has been amazing, but the results could
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: surprise people. If they would have offered this deal originally
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: when we first started, they would have been accepted immediately.
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: We'll see what happens then.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: So somewhat positive signs there from the President about talks
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: with Iran, very good talks. They want to make a
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: deal if they present whatever they basically did present this,
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: but we can move past that if it means that
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: there is some deal that won't be had. However, we
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: will know from the Iranian side that the talks in
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: Oman were quote, exclusively nuclear. The Iranians are trying to
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: make it clear we will talk nuclear all day long.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: The Supreme Leader has his fatua.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: However, we're not talking ballistic missiles period, and the reason
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: why is because that's our regional security turrent against the
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: State of Israel. Well, who happens to hear this and
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: immediately calls to President and says I need to come
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: and see you immediately.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Benjamin net Yahoo. Let's put this.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: Up here on the screen from the Times of Israel.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: Netson Yahoo to meet Trump in Washington Wednesday, says US
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: Iran talks must deal with the Iran's missiles and proxy.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: President Benjamin Netan Yahoo will fly to Washington this week
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: to meet with President Trump on Iran. The meeting will
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: take place on Wednesday.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Quote.
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  Speaker 3: The Prime Minister believes that any negotiations must include restrictions
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: on ballistic missiles and an end to support for the
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: Iranian axis, indicating concerns about the progress of the US
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: Iran talks thus far. The US and Iran talks that
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: happened last week were immediately met with great alarm in
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: Tel Aviv because they want are in Jerusalem, sorry, which
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: they're What they want, of course, is for the talks
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: not to happen at all and for the US to
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: progress to war. Now here's what's really stunning about these
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: Netson Yaho is a dirigionally already supposed to be here
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: nine days from now next week for the APAC Summit,
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: which is happening here in Washington. But the meeting was
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: then moved a week earlier at the Premier's request, specifically
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: to try and to derail this deal and to say
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: any meeting has got to involve these ballistic missiles. Put
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: B three up here on the screen confirming more of
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: this from Barackravid. And what he talks about here is
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: that the announcement of the urgent visit comes after the
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Trump Steve wick Coffin Jared Kushner negotiations NOMAN and specifically
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: that they're very concerned about anything that might actually deal
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: with a new clear element that does not address at
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: all any of these regional security measures. So you can
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: see very very clearly here to the extent that America
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: has any problems with Iran, it is regional in terms
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: of its threat to our bases, which seems manageable if
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: you don't attack them too.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: But okay, so there's that.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: And then second is a nuclear weapon which would be
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: capable of hitting the continental United States, like something that
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: Northreea has developed. The theory the regional ballistic missile threat
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: is a serious and existential threat only to one country, Israel,
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: And so they're saying any deal you do must take
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: our existential security threats as seriously as you take your
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: existential security threats, and they're basically it's the most classic
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: tail wagging the dog situation in terms of power disparity,
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: in terms of I mean, in terms of everything that
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: could possibly exist. And yet it has a very very
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: high chance of succeeding because he has succeeded at every
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: term in twisting and turning Trump to whatever direction that
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: he wants to go.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Not only that, but you also have people inside of
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: the administration who are putching in the same direction. And
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: then you have Trump who's kind of like put his
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: ego on the line, as he did as well with Venezuela.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: And the problem with the deal that's only nuclear, I
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: mean he you know, for all of the talk about
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: the Iranians are so hard line and they would never
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: give up this with that like we literally had a
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: deal under the Obama administration, they're clearly willing to negotiate
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: a deal that they stayed in after we got out.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: So the problem with that for Trump is, you know,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: people like nat Yaho and others innistration that want a
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: that want a war and want some sort of regime
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: change or regime collapse and say, oh, you're going to
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: just do the go back and do the Obama deal.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: It has to They'll push for it to be somehow
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: significantly different. And of course the ballistic missiles are an
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: absolute red line for the Iranians. I mean, which I
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: completely understand, Like you're going to leave yourself completely defenseless
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: when you have these absolute psychos who are bent on
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: your destruction in the region like you would be, you
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: would be crazy to agree to that. There's another Times
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: of visual piece this morning. We don't have an element
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: for this, but they say Iran agan rules out giving
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: up Uranian enrichment, suggests us not taking talks seriously. This
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: is the Iranian Foreign Minister A bass Agrocci on Sunday
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: rule out Tehran ever giving up Uranian and richment and
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: its negotiates this with Washington. Insisting will not be intimidated
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: by the threat of war. He told a forum in Tehran,
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Why do we insist so much on your enrichment and
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: refuse to give it up even if war is imposed
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: on us? Because no one has the right to dictate
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: our behavior, he goes on. Their military employment in the
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: region does not scare us. He referred to the build
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: up of US forces. And then they go on to
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: talk about some of the background here, and he says
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: they fear our atomic bomb will we are not looking
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: for one. Our atomic bomb is the power to say
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: no to the great powers. So, I mean that's all
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: very rational calculus on their part. For all the talk
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: of how they're so you know, crazy and irrational and
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: out of control, the approach has been very rational given
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: the landscape that we and Israel have created for them.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, let's put B four up there on the screen.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: And this is some of the danger here about reverting
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: to diplomacy. But the road is narrow, and what treats
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: a Parsi flagged for all of us in this article.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: But also, you know, more importantly, like really, whenever you
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: dig into a lot of this is that there are
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: some serious problems whenever it comes to the path that
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: he has now had. So like what they say is
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: that the quote, there's a strong view on the Iranian
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: side that Trump has an excessive and exaggerated view of iranikness.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: If diplomacy is to work, many Iranians believe a short,
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: intense war may be necessary to correct a Trump's perception
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: and compel him to adopt more realistic demands even if
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: they take large losses. So will the Americans and the
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Israelis and quote Trump has less tolerance for losses or
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: for a protracted war. So that part of I mean
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: vindicating for their current strategy. So for example, per what
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: he was telling us is that there was apparently a back.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Channel from Washington after the protests.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: And they're like, hey, we need to do another strike,
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: token strike, you token strike back, and the Iranians were like, nope.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: If you strike, it's on. And what happened, Oh, the
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: carrier all of.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: A sudden has to be brought from the South China
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: see ce seventeen's all the way across the Middle East,
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: bases on high alert. And for a second there we're like,
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: oh my god, this is this could be a real problem.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: And what did he do?
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: He backed off and we ended up having talks. They
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: cancel the talks, they put him back on off. It
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: all happened in a three day period. You can watch
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: our show from last week if you're interested. But the
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: point remains that we're actually kind of afraid of a
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: full blown conflict because what we win. Yeah, obviously, but
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: that's not. I mean, what does winning mean? Did we
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: win the war in Vietnam? We killed more of them,
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: That doesn't mean we won. We've killed more Taliban than
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: they ever killed of us, doesn't mean that we won.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: Same in Iraq. Right, So the point remains.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: We win the war with the Hoho thiast even theoretically, yeah, right, Yeah,
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: we killed a lot of them.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Right, Does that mean that we want no?
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: Right, because there's a difference between strategic and tactical victory. Well,
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: here you go, the exact same situation playing out with
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: the Iranians that they know. They're like, look, yes, we
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: will lose, for sure, many of our people will die.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: It's a diabolical strategy.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: However, we can destroy the price of oil with the
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: straits of horn moves, and we could probably kill a
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: decent number of you, and we could definitely kill a
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: decent number of Israelis. So if that's what you want
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: to do, then let's go and both. You know, maybe
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: the Israelis will sign up for that bargain, maybe as
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: long as big Brother America is there to support all
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: of them. Do really any of us have a tolerance
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: for a single loss of American life in a theoretical
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: problem for israel security. I don't I guys to zero
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: tolerance for yeah, and I'm thinking that there are a
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: lot of other people out there.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, there has been very little effort to build up
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: any sort of or manufacture any sort of consent around
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: this theoretical war.
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, they just haven't really bothered.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: They just don't see it as necessary to get buy
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: and really from the American public, We've had all sorts
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: of shifting explanations for why we should be so concerned
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: about Iran, most of them built on a pack of lies.
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: Let's go and put B five up on the screen.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Treat as actual quote that was there in the New
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: York Times article, he says. I told the New York
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Times there is a strong view on the Iranian side
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: that Trump has an excessive and exaggerated view of Iranian weakness.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: If diplomacy is to work, these Iranians believe a short,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: intense war may be necessary to correct Trump's perception and
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: compel them to adopt more realistic demands. Even if Iran
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: takes large losses in such a war, so with so
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: will the Americans and Israelis. And Trump has less tolerance
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: for losses or a protracted war. I mean that seems
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: entirely logical to me in terms of the you know,
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: what the Iranians are likely thinking and the calculation that
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: they have made, because in the past, the calculus calculation
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: they made is basically like, yeah, we'll do this choreography
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: with you. We'll do the stance, right. Okay, you want
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: to strike our nuclear facilities, you do that, and we're
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: going to we have to retaliate, but we're going to
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: do it in a more limited and coordinated fashion that
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: you can manage and that you know that allows you
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: to get your defenses in place. And what happened that
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: it did not deter us at all. What Trump learned
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: from that is, oh, when I need a quick ego boast,
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: I can go and mess with the your audience, right
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: and get another get another win on the board at
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: a time when you know, his approval ratings, seer tanking,
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: economy shit and all kinds of you know, everybody's revolting
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: against the ice assaults and all of that. Right, So
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: that's what he took from that, and so they realized like, okay,
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: well that was apparently not the way to get them
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: to leave us alone.
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: So we're going to have to take a harder line.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: So when Trump, you know, when they threw this back
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: channel reach out and like, hey, let's do a little
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: bit like of a fake pretend war here so Trump
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: can have his ego stroking, They're like, no, we're not
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: playing along this time. We have to take a different approach.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: And you know, that's why this is. This is a
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: very dangerous situation. And I find it hard to imagine that.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: And again I have no idea what the timing will be.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: I have it.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: I find it very hard to imagine with all of
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: the forces within the administration, and with net and Yahoo pushing,
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: and with Trump having backed himself once again into a
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: bit of a corner here with regard to his own ego,
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: that we are just going to sort of put this
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: all aside and pretend it never happened and move forward
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: without any more kinetic action.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: That's very very true, all right, last thing I wanted
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: to put B six. Let's put that up there on
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: the screen. Trump's this was very subtle. By the way,
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: wick Koff and Kushner visited a US aircraft carrier immediately
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: after the talks. Just so everybody knows in terms of
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: what they're trying to signal to the Iranians too, about
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: what's coming potentially your way, which again I don't think
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: that they're all that.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: I think they know.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: I think they know that they will take probably what
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: tens of thousands of losses if there was going to
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: be any sort of conflict. Fortunately, they just don't seem
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: to care, which, you know, it is diabolical and they
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: may be right, but that's look, it's tragic, like it's
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: one of those things where let's not find out. How
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: about we just avoid it, you know, for for all
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: of our sakes. But apparently that's not the way that
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: people want to think. Okay, let's get to Trump