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- 0:00Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Friday, November tenth. I'm your host,
- 0:03tom Or. The Michigan State game is tomorrow the game against Michigan in fifteen
- 0:07days we were welcoming back our good buddy Ross Fulton of bucke Hudle. He
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- 0:34gonna be talking about something else that looked pretty good last weekend. It was
- 0:38the Ohio State defense against Rutgers. It was not perfect, but it was
- 0:41pretty darn good. Ross. Let's start with the safeties. This is how
- 0:46many times have we used the frame safety during defense over the last couple of
- 0:49years with Jim Noles. What was Ohio State doing with their safeties to really
- 0:54take advantage and get the better of Rutgers for long stretches of that game on
- 0:58Saturday. Yeah, one thing we've talked about in the past, and coach
- 1:02Ku Kou, which is another good X follow had a discussion about this the
- 1:07other day. Uh Jim Noles likes to spill the football by pinching down his
- 1:12defensive ends. We've talked about that in the context of pass rush or lack
- 1:17thereof and other areas, but interestingly against Rutgers, they largely did not do
- 1:23that. Instead that Joel's cut the defensive end wide. My speculation is that's
- 1:30because like that was his way of containing the quarterback read aspect of Rutgers offense.
- 1:38As a result, to fill that extra gap, he used the safeties
- 1:42quite a bit. So we saw a lot of cover four, probably more
- 1:47so than I've seen in a long time out of Ohio Sate, and certainly
- 1:49since Nole's has been here. That allowed, as will show, one of
- 1:53the safeties to come down or in the other instance wit will show next,
- 1:57he would use a safety run blitz to fill the backside sea gap, and
- 2:02so it was a lot of instead of using the defensive ends to spill the
- 2:06football, there's a lot of boxing inside and using the safeties to account for
- 2:09an extra gap. So okay, so two distinct things though here though,
- 2:14So the first one we're going to show is not it's not a blitz in
- 2:17fact, it's it's just they're playing Cover four. Josh Proctor here is the
- 2:23weak side safety, and he when he sees run action, he comes down
- 2:29aggressively and fills the B gap and closes it down, so it makes a
- 2:34tackle on the backfield. So so aggressively it almost looks like a blitz,
- 2:38but it's just a nice read by him and play. And so again this
- 2:40is the way that they're re equating numbers in the run game against obviously Rutgers
- 2:45being a run heavy team that involves the quarterback. The second one is in
- 2:51fact a B gap blitz. Now, but Knowles is like this throughout the
- 2:54year. We've seen it with Lathan Ranson a few times. We showed it
- 2:57last week against Wisconsin. And here it's obviously Sending Styles filling in for Ransom,
- 3:01but this is this is they're playing Cover one behind it, so they're
- 3:05showing split safeties again but then rolling down at the snap bringing that extra defender
- 3:10on a blitz. Styles made some nice plays doing this. He had this
- 3:14tackle on the backfield. He also they're doing it to defend the run,
- 3:17to get up, to get an eighth body, and to gap out.
- 3:23But he also when Rutgers passed, made several plays off of it, most
- 3:30notably forcing the quarterback to rush the ball, which led to the Jordan Hancock
- 3:35interception return for a touchdown, also caused a sack. So they use this
- 3:40quite a bit, you know, and again we've we've seen this concept in
- 3:44the past with the season with Nole's liking to bring the boundary safety and obviously
- 3:49it was Styles there. It fits his skill set to get him down near
- 3:53the line of scrimmage. So you know, as I said earlier, I
- 3:57think part of it was trying to contain the quarterback and have someone to account
- 4:00for him. I do also wonder though, part of it is, you
- 4:03know, trying to maximize the guys he has available and obviously a lot of
- 4:10injuries, particularly in the secondary, and you know, if Sunny Style is
- 4:14going to play boundary safety going forward, he is someone who is, you
- 4:18know, admittiately like being closer to the line of scrimmage, and that's what
- 4:21he's been repping at Nickel a lot this year. In some ways, it
- 4:27almost fits him more to be at boundary safety than Nickel because you can get
- 4:30him in the run fit easier. We've we've talked about that in the past,
- 4:33like the boundary safety for Knowles can tend to be pretty run focused depending
- 4:41on what the opponent's doing and so, but they're obviously trying to maximize that
- 4:44with the number of times they brought him on that b gap blitz. And
- 4:50in case you're wondering why that would be, that Sunny Styles is over at
- 4:55that boundary safety spot. Now that is the spot where Lathan Ransom had been
- 4:58playing. Ransom has missed. He missed, he got hurt during the Wisconsin
- 5:01game, missed last week. His status for this week we will find out,
- 5:05did not sound from interviews on Wednesday like that was a super imminent return.
- 5:10So you may get a little more of an extended run for Sunny Styles
- 5:13at the bandit position. We will all find out on Saturday during the pregame
- 5:17availability report when that comes out a couple hours before kickoff. All right,
- 5:21So we talk all the time about the defense and offense being a little bit
- 5:25of a cat and mouse game. So Ohio State does what they're doing everything's
- 5:30working great, Rutgers has a chance to respond and next two plays, Ross
- 5:35can get running us through sort of some of the things that Rutgers did in
- 5:39a response to what Ohio State was doing, and Ross run us through these
- 5:43next two because you know they they did have some success after some initial struggles.
- 5:48Yeah, And I mean I think part of it too is, you
- 5:53know, Ohio State, as you said, like Rutgers had basically no offense
- 5:57in the first quarter, and then the defense obviously down, some guys have
- 6:02some other injuries, people were playing through, started getting put in some bad
- 6:06spots. So I did promise that. We talked about the fumble Rooski,
- 6:11So you know there's I mean, the one thing you can say about that
- 6:15obviously every team. I mean, it's a smart play called by Rutgers.
- 6:18Like we've talked a lot about on for the icate offense, sneaking it well,
- 6:23you know, like anything else, you can't be predictable all the time,
- 6:26like so you do have to have a counter to your sneak. So
- 6:28it's a nice counter of the sneak obviously, like Cody Simon pinched down and
- 6:31try to stop the quarterback who and he has contained you know, I will
- 6:35David s Enigmunos and played a great play getting back to make the tackle because
- 6:40that was a four point play getting him on the ground. Like obviously,
- 6:43Ohio State's goal line defense continues to be really stellar. But so you know,
- 6:47between that and then you know, you get the big punt that wasn't
- 6:51supposed to be a fake punt, and then you get an interception and all
- 6:55of a sudden, you're like back on the field a lot. Then you
- 6:57you know, even the pick six, you're going right back on defense again.
- 7:00So it wasn't exactly like the greatest management of the defensive situation, but
- 7:08our Rutgers did keep Finally getting to my point, I did do a couple
- 7:11of things eventually that they cost some stretch stress. So the first one is
- 7:17running the quarterback on designed runs and so especially what they like to do.
- 7:21So this is pop out, So we talked about for that for Ohio State
- 7:25with Devin Brown. So pop out you're basically faking like it's a zone read,
- 7:29but really it's just a lead play. Then the running back leads to
- 7:32the backside for the quarterback and so you're just getting a lead blocker on essentially
- 7:38outside zone. But the what Rutgers did was they ran it to the boundary
- 7:45away from their bunch formation several times. So we've talked about like why do
- 7:47teams run into the boundary. Well, here's a good example, because Ohio
- 7:51State just doesn't have numbers to the short side of the field. Like most
- 7:56college defenses, they like to set the nickel to the field, so you
- 8:00have an extra force defender to that side. Especially when you have a bunch,
- 8:03you're going to have multiple bodies covering up those receivers and so they're just
- 8:07outnumbered. Eventually, they sort of started to you know, wreckers win to
- 8:11the well probably one too many times with pop out and O High State sort
- 8:16of started recognizing it and slowing it down. But you know, they hit
- 8:18a few, just getting just out numbering in a high state. The second
- 8:24thing, the big issue that popped up for High State was handling split zone
- 8:31or do a from with a split action. You know, the split zone
- 8:37is like not a new concept, right, like the High State runs it
- 8:39all the time. I'm not quite sure what the issue was, but like
- 8:43when you have split zone, the concept is that the linebackers you're supposed to
- 8:48fall back because you're you're now like creating a new gap, right, Like
- 8:52you did have a tight end on one side. He blocks back, So
- 8:56where you have four gaps to one side, now you have four gaps to
- 8:58the other side. So the term is like the linebackers fall back, so
- 9:01they just basically move a gap over with the tight end. But they weren't
- 9:07doing that, and so you can see that on this play, like they're
- 9:09just they're not gapped out because there's now an extra gap being created. And
- 9:16we'll talk about why. Like, you know, it's it's there seems to
- 9:20just be some confusion handling here or like is the defensive end spilling or boxing?
- 9:26It's unclear, Like, you know, is he supposed to force the
- 9:28buy that is he supposed to force the football outside or is he supposed to
- 9:33keep it contained? You know, stop styles is coming down as the boundary
- 9:37safety, but like where is he fitting on this? I just don't know,
- 9:41you know, I don't know if like they were prepared for Rutgers to
- 9:43run this or by doing what they were doing by using more of a boxing
- 9:48technique with the safety coming down, that's just like not what they normally do,
- 9:52and so it caused some confusion, but now like to segue, like
- 9:56as the game went on, they did they got sort of more and more
- 9:58comfortable running cover four having the safety come down like they did get better against
- 10:03it. So that's, you know, we can we can discuss why that
- 10:07happened. Yeah, all right, so we did the punch, we did
- 10:09the counter prunch. Now we're gonna do the counter counter punch. And you
- 10:11know, this was impressive for Olhouse Date to adjust like that because they were
- 10:15doing this without Josh Proctor. He they obviously were missing Layson Ransom, who
- 10:20had been playing the bandit position in the band the boundary safety, and then
- 10:22they lost Josh Procter on that pick six play. He was down on the
- 10:26field for a little while and then missed the rest of the game. So
- 10:30then you're doing it without your deep safety or adjuster safety. And you know,
- 10:33they they did not completely fall apart, and that's you know, obviously
- 10:37a good sign for what has been a pretty good defense this year. So
- 10:39what did O House to do to counter? And then you know, how
- 10:43how did that impact things as well? When Malie Hartford came on and had
- 10:48to play after not playing a whole heck of a lot the last couple weeks.
- 10:52Yeah, I mean you can only you know, take so many people
- 10:54out right, like Latham Ransom, like it's it's a loss, but like
- 10:58you can kind of manage it because Sonny Styles has played a bunch. They're
- 11:03they're they're increasingly showing that they're comfortable just keeping Jordan Hancock full time at Nickel,
- 11:07including gets the run. Like you take Josh Proctor out, people forget
- 11:11like they already lost to Hot Carter for this, uh you know, he
- 11:15has not been available, so you're really down a lot of safeties. And
- 11:18it did limit what they could do. So like you know, those first
- 11:22two clips we showed of like one was Proctor coming down, they pretty much
- 11:26stopped doing that. It was pretty much always Sunny Styles coming coming down either
- 11:31on a safety, Blitzer being the Cover four defender. They tried to keep
- 11:35Hardford as the deep safety, and so they were pretty vanilla and what they
- 11:39could do. But like they did increasingly like even play more and more Cover
- 11:45four and as the game went on, they did get better at it.
- 11:48So like in this example, you see the safety is like another split zone,
- 11:52but you're they're doing a much better job closing it down. Both from
- 11:56the defensive end side of it, and then the safeties are triggin more aggressively
- 12:01and coming downhill. So you know, again it was I think probably in
- 12:05some extent like different concepts from them, you know, take some reps.
- 12:11Rutgers wasn't using split zone initially, so that I do you think it was
- 12:15something that like you know, Rutgers coaching staff noticed and it took a little
- 12:20bit of time to adjust. And then I do think they were getting worn
- 12:22down a little bit just given the circumstances we talked about. But I do
- 12:28think like especially once the offense started, you know, answering and scoring points,
- 12:31like, I think they kind of settled in against the run and had
- 12:35some good reps from cover four like like this one, all right, And
- 12:41then the last thing we want to touch on was one of the areas where
- 12:43they maybe were a little bit more vulnerable against the past, especially with the
- 12:48young true freshman Malie Hartford in there at that deep safety spot. How did
- 12:52how did you see that shaken out? I mean, it doesn't seem like
- 12:56that's going to be a long term thing with Josh from all available indications,
- 13:01So this might not be a long term concern. But when Harford was in
- 13:05there, how was Rutgers able to kind of maybe take advantage of that a
- 13:07little bit? Yeah, I actually thought kind of as much as like any
- 13:11kind of giving up some runs, I thought like Rutgers really had success moving
- 13:16the ball when they could hit some pass plays. And you know, high
- 13:20stated a couple of penalties on the one drive too that that obviously extended that
- 13:22one. But they were they were hurting Ohio State in the slot especially.
- 13:31They caught them also on some like you know, stuff out of the backfield.
- 13:35But you kept seeing Jordan Hancock. He was playing with outside leverage like
- 13:39he does here, and there was a few times he did that and like
- 13:43the inside help was not there. Whether that was because of like a you
- 13:48know, over focused on the run from the linebackers or you know that again,
- 13:52you're playing a deep safety who doesn't have a lot of experience into the
- 13:56true freshman, and so like that's kind of evident here, right because like
- 14:00Hancock, yes he's in man, but it's kind of a loose outside man.
- 14:03He's like he's expecting help and the deep safety help is late and then
- 14:07they both missed the tackle, which you know that's a little thing, but
- 14:11like they just haven't been doing that this year, so you kind of take
- 14:13it for granted that you know, unlike previous seasons, you're not seeing a
- 14:18fifteen yard game turn into a thirty five yard game, which makes a difference.
- 14:20So I guess, like pretty obvious. We talked about this with the
- 14:24offense as well, like you lose multiple starters, like it is going to
- 14:30impact your performance. So yes, as I said, like I think they
- 14:33can get by. It's not certainly not ideal if Lathan Ranson can't come back,
- 14:39but like don't want to also add to that Denzel Burke and Josh Proctor
- 14:43and Tommy Eigenberg as well, Like that would start being a very significant thing
- 14:48because you know, you still see from the other linebackers like some holes,
- 14:54right, So like you know, still Chambers like doesn't always trigger correctly see
- 14:58that on some of the as run plays or like Cody Simon in the passing
- 15:01game, can you know, kind of get stuck in a spot and not
- 15:05adjust to routes. So with the when the two of them can rotate together,
- 15:09you're kind of can hopefully get the best of both worlds from each Chambers
- 15:13and Simon and minimize their weaknesses. But like you know, if you had
- 15:16to put the two of them together without Eikenberg and obviously I can virtually hear
- 15:20the defense, and you know, so they need Eikenberg, they need Proctor,
- 15:22they need Burke, maybe not this week, but certainly going forward.
- 15:28But as you said, the good news is it seems optimistic on those three.
- 15:31Yeah, so we'll be keeping an eye on those injuries and the this
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