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11-11 H4: Al Kinisky Stops By, Husky Talk w/ Cam Cleeland & One Last Thing · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Oh, happy hump day to you all. Chuck Palander, Sirs
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  Speaker 1: Christopher Kidd with you here on this Wednesday. We're doing
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: a little switcheroo here in our 9 o'clock hour. We're
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: going to have Cam Cleveland join us at 9.30. And
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  Speaker 1: Al Koniski is going to join us a little early.
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  Speaker 1: What else does Al have to do other than sit
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  Speaker 1: around and eat salmon soup and brag to all of
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  Speaker 1: us back here on the homeland about what a wonderful
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: time everybody's having? I mean, I've had three different reports
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  Speaker 1: from Mike Benton, and he hasn't really given me any
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  Speaker 1: hockey information. No. you know, rub downs and saunas and,
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: you know, reindeer steaks and everything else. And, uh, is
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  Speaker 1: anybody over there actually doing their job or are they
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  Speaker 1: just goofing off? Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Listen guys.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: There are true. There is truth to the rumor that
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  Speaker 2: Mike Benton, Everett Fitzhugh and I have spent some time
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  Speaker 2: in the sauna. And I'm going to tell you, you
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  Speaker 2: have not lived until you've spent time in a sauna
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  Speaker 2: with your coworkers naked. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And yet Mike Bend is the nerve to call it
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  Speaker 3: a work study, Al.
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  Speaker 1: What are we doing?
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  Speaker 2: Sure, sure, sure, sure. Of course, that is the traditional
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  Speaker 2: Finnish way of doing it. We have not partaken that.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I see. You kept a little bit to the
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  Speaker 1: imagination is what you did. I got a word for that, Al.
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  Speaker 1: I call that Tuesday. Yeah, every Tuesday, Chris Anderson.
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  Speaker 4: Woo!
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  Speaker 1: Well, are you having a great time? Seriously, we want
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  Speaker 1: you to have a great time. We can't wait for
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  Speaker 1: the broadcast tomorrow and then on Saturday. But are you
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  Speaker 1: having a wonderful time? We're also invested in that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, listen, you know, coming over this far with the
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  Speaker 2: time difference being what it is, it takes time to adjust.
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  Speaker 2: And today was actually the first time where I felt
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  Speaker 2: like I slept a normal night, going to bed somewhere
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  Speaker 2: in the 9 to 10 o'clock hour and getting up
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  Speaker 2: in the 7 to 8 o'clock hour. Up until then,
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  Speaker 2: it's been wide awake at 3 a.m. and, okay, what
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  Speaker 2: do I do now mentality. So it's nice to feel
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  Speaker 2: like you've settled in now. And I think it's probably
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  Speaker 2: the same for the guys as well. They had a
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  Speaker 2: good day of practice today. And tomorrow, you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: game day.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, talking about the game itself, let's get
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  Speaker 3: on the ice. Obviously, we've talked a lot about Berkley
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  Speaker 3: Catton's semi-breakout here. Hopefully that continues. Let's talk a little
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  Speaker 3: bit about the other side. Someone like Bobby McMahon, how
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  Speaker 3: do we get him going after he signs his free
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  Speaker 3: agent contract? It seems like he's been a little slow
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  Speaker 3: starter here out of the gates.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's certainly not for trying. I mean, Bob
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  Speaker 2: McMahon leads with 31 hits, although I don't think he
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  Speaker 2: should lead that category with Jacob Monson on the lineup
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  Speaker 2: right now and Curtis Douglas kind of in and out.
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  Speaker 2: It's no surprise. That's a part of McMahon's game. The
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  Speaker 2: part you want to see more of is putting the
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  Speaker 2: puck in the back of the net. I think every
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  Speaker 2: game he's averaging four or five shots on goal. I
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  Speaker 2: think that he just needs to settle in and find
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  Speaker 2: that confidence that we saw late in the season last
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  Speaker 2: year when he came over. It kind of started that
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  Speaker 2: way a little bit at the beginning of this year,
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  Speaker 2: but it's trailed off your right. No better place to
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  Speaker 2: do it here against the Stanley Cup champion winning Carolina Hurricanes.
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  Speaker 1: So what kind of expectation do you have for Matthew
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  Speaker 1: Wood then and his transition? When might we see him
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  Speaker 1: really get comfortable and start scoring more and being a
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  Speaker 1: bigger part of this team?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw him skate today on the Cat and
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  Speaker 2: Kako line. Previously, that spot was occupied by Mackie Samuskevich. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they're two very different players. Wood is a finisher.
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  Speaker 2: He's a guy that if you get him the puck
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  Speaker 2: in front of the net, you know, he's fine with,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a deflection, finding a rebound. He's a big
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  Speaker 2: 6'4 player. So you like to put him in that position.
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  Speaker 2: He's not obviously as fast as Samuskevich, so he slows
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  Speaker 2: that line down. But what you lose in speed, you
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  Speaker 2: lose in finish around the net. So Wood, We'll see
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  Speaker 2: if that holds together for tomorrow's morning skate, but it
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  Speaker 2: looks like if it does, he'll be playing alongside of
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  Speaker 2: Katton and Kako, and so that means you know he's
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  Speaker 2: going to get the puck a lot. Katton's a great playmaker,
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  Speaker 2: so is Kako, which means Wood's going to get lots
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  Speaker 2: of chances to finish.
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  Speaker 3: What about the continuous discussion surrounding the penalty kill? I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to say how do we fix that, because
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  Speaker 3: I think that's just a cop-out of a question, if
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  Speaker 3: you will. How much of that is connected to the
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  Speaker 3: relative slow start from the goaltending as well?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's just it too, right? We've seen teams
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  Speaker 2: that have fantastic penalty kills, and it doesn't matter who
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  Speaker 2: they put in net, they have a great penalty kill.
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  Speaker 2: That just means they've got great personnel and great structure.
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  Speaker 2: And then you see teams that have great penalty kills,
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  Speaker 2: and if they lose their goaltender, it drops off considerably.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's probably more of the Kraken situation, that
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  Speaker 2: they've got to have good goaltending to have a good
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  Speaker 2: penalty kill. Again, I'm not blaming the goaltending. I'm just
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  Speaker 2: saying you've got to have both. You've got to have
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  Speaker 2: big saves during that power play that they're trying to
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  Speaker 2: knock off, as well as you've got to have that
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  Speaker 2: structure in front of them. So a little better goaltending
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  Speaker 2: and the right personnel coupled with the right structure, and
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  Speaker 2: you start to see that number go up. But you've
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  Speaker 2: got to have all three.
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  Speaker 1: Al Koniski is with us here all the way from Helsinki, Finland,
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  Speaker 1: as they get ready for tomorrow's global series match against
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  Speaker 1: the Carolina Hurricanes. 9 a.m. is when we're going to
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  Speaker 1: drop the puck here, not there, and then an 8.30 pregame.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to be broadcasting live from the 32 Bar
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  Speaker 1: and Grill. Anders will have the pregame show, and then
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  Speaker 1: Everett and Al on the call tomorrow. It should be exceptional.
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  Speaker 1: Mike Benton's over there as well, getting naked in the sauna.
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  Speaker 1: And we've got Al on for our normal conversation. By
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  Speaker 1: the way, of the two Finns, who's the better tour guide?
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  Speaker 1: Is it Kako or is it Newman? Who's got more connections?
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  Speaker 2: Well, Capo Caco has led the charge for, you know,
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  Speaker 2: getting the guys acclimated, figuring out which sauna they're going
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  Speaker 2: to go to, which foods they should try. So he's
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  Speaker 2: definitely the captain of that, of that four person team
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  Speaker 2: going out of Bynum and Nikkei Coco being the two
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  Speaker 2: of the other four, Yanni Newman as well. So Caco
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  Speaker 2: is definitely the guy. And I got to tell you guys,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he's, he's, he's real proud of his country.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I've learned some Finnish as well. Do you
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  Speaker 2: know how you, how you say hello in Finnish?
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  Speaker 1: Is it Kippus? Hi.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, hi.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Hi.
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  Speaker 1: You got it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: H-E-I. Look it up.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you are practically bilingual.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm basically, I've learned the language.
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  Speaker 5: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's in that category for sure.
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  Speaker 1: You can now translate whenever Piper Shaw needs somebody to
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  Speaker 1: translate for Kako. Just call on Al.
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  Speaker 2: I got her. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Perfect.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Al, let's look at the other team, the
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  Speaker 3: Carolina Hurricanes. You know, I think if you look at
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  Speaker 3: the Kraken schedule, they've beaten the teams they should most
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  Speaker 3: more often than not. And even some of the, you know,
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  Speaker 3: higher end teams there, they've put up good fights against.
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  Speaker 3: This is obviously another animal, though. What makes them, you know,
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  Speaker 3: obviously Stanley Cup winners. And there's a shot that you
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  Speaker 3: can even say that they're better than they were last
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  Speaker 3: year at this point.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, if you look up and down
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  Speaker 2: the league right now, they've got the highest winning percentage
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  Speaker 2: at seven, eight, nine. So this is the biggest task
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  Speaker 2: that the Kraken have come up with so far this season.
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  Speaker 2: But when you look at their roster, they've got 20
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  Speaker 2: guys from that Stanley cup winning team last year. And
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  Speaker 2: anytime a team wins the cup, usually the next year,
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  Speaker 2: somebody is looking for a little more money and you know,
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  Speaker 2: that you've, you've got to break up that team. That's
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  Speaker 2: not the case with this hurricane team. So, um, They're
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  Speaker 2: coming with the same roster. Other than Jordan Stahl, who's
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  Speaker 2: a big piece of their roster, who's at an IR
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  Speaker 2: right now, they've got a lot of the personnel that
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  Speaker 2: brought the Cup to Carolina last year. So this is
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  Speaker 2: going to be a huge test. Now, having said that,
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  Speaker 2: Stanley Cup winning teams are 5-1-0 in these Global Series games.
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  Speaker 2: events so far. So the cracker, they're going to have
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  Speaker 2: their hands full, but you know, they're going to take
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  Speaker 2: it one game at a time. They're definitely the kind
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  Speaker 2: of team that rises to the occasion when there are
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  Speaker 2: great teams like this. Yes, they've had some struggles against
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  Speaker 2: better teams, but I think historically they've, they've rose to
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  Speaker 2: the occasion when these better teams, uh, you know, when
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  Speaker 2: they come up against them and there's just a whole
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  Speaker 2: anomaly anomaly of being in Finland, you know, one game
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  Speaker 2: will be a home game. One game will be an
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  Speaker 2: away game. Uh, Carolina didn't get here until a day
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  Speaker 2: after Seattle did. So they, they, you know, Seattle was
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  Speaker 2: going to jumpstart on that adjustment. So who knows? There
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  Speaker 2: are a lot of additional factors that go into this
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  Speaker 2: game besides how good Carolina is and make no mistake.
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  Speaker 2: They're a really good hockey team.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's interesting. Um, how, as far as you can tell,
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  Speaker 1: whatever access you've had to the team is Lane Lambert
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  Speaker 1: handling all of that? Because I think even grown men,
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  Speaker 1: even professional hockey players can get lost in a feels
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  Speaker 1: like a vacation. Um, and you're, you know, you've got
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  Speaker 1: a long time in between games and, you know, you've
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  Speaker 1: got your, uh, tour guide, your teammate tour guy wants
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  Speaker 1: to show you all the spots and your naked, naked
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  Speaker 1: media members in the sauna and, uh, you know, having
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  Speaker 1: salmon soup up to your, you know, eyebrows. Uh, and
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  Speaker 1: how's Lane Lambert making sure like, Hey guys, we need
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  Speaker 1: a win out of these two. We have a great
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  Speaker 1: opponent and we didn't come all the way over here
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  Speaker 1: just for a vacation.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's exactly his message. And yes, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not joking about Kapokako. He did organize the itinerary
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  Speaker 2: for the first few days that they're going to be
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  Speaker 2: here because I think a big part of this trip
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  Speaker 2: is culture building, team building, where the guys are doing
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  Speaker 2: everything to go together. They're going out to the finish mills.
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  Speaker 2: They're going up to the saunas together and experiencing that.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that can lead into these games in
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  Speaker 2: a positive way. way. But, you know, I was telling
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  Speaker 2: some of them today, this is not the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 2: but it's Just like the Super Bowl, if you've ever been,
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  Speaker 2: it's in a unique city. Usually it's not the two
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  Speaker 2: teams playing. And there's tons of distractions. There's media. There's
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  Speaker 2: visits to different places. There's people that want to talk
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  Speaker 2: to you that don't usually talk to you. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the media available today had 30 people in the room.
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  Speaker 2: They're all up and down the benches. My point is
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  Speaker 2: there are a lot of distractions just like the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: And I think Lane's job is to try and obviously
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  Speaker 2: let those things happen leading up to the game. But
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  Speaker 2: from morning skate on tomorrow, it's got to be game day.
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  Speaker 2: It's got to be go through your routine. It's got
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  Speaker 2: to be, hey, guys, you've been here for a few
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  Speaker 2: days now. You've adjusted. You're into your routines just like
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  Speaker 2: any other road game. Let's get ready to go here.
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  Speaker 2: And I think he's done a good job with that
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  Speaker 2: so far. All right.
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  Speaker 1: I heard we pulled you away from dinner for this.
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  Speaker 1: What were you having or are you going to have
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  Speaker 1: or did you have?
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  Speaker 2: I am on my way out the door for a
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  Speaker 2: Finnish meal down the street. Maybe some more reindeer, maybe
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  Speaker 2: some Baltic sea fish. We'll see.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Just finish your plate. Whatever you do.
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  Speaker 2: There you go. There you go. I love the dad humor. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. How do you say goodbye in Finnish?
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  Speaker 2: That's a 200-level question, and I haven't gotten that far yet.
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  Speaker 1: I thought you were bilingual.
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  Speaker 2: Come on.
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  Speaker 1: You were so satisfied with high. Yeah. Yeah. All right, Al.
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  Speaker 1: Have a great time. We'll be listening tomorrow. Really looking
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  Speaker 1: forward to it. All right, boys. Cheers. Al Koniski. Kippus
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: joining us here on the program. Color analyst for your
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: Seattle Kraken. They are in Helsinki, Finland. Have been there
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: pretty much all week long. and getting ready for tomorrow's match.
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  Speaker 1: How excited are you? I mean, it's like history-making, and
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: you get to do the pregame show tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: I am pretty excited. I'll go right from the show
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  Speaker 3: to hosting the pregame show, intermission, and in postgame as well.
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  Speaker 3: But it won't compare to the excitement of Mr. Mike Benton,
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  Speaker 3: who's doing play-by-play for this as well.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, jeez.
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  Speaker 3: That's why he's over there.
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  Speaker 5: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: So he's ever doing the TV?
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  Speaker 5: Correct.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: You wouldn't just send Mike Benton over there just because, right?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So it's the Mike and Al show then tomorrow. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it is. Yes, it is. Okay. Yeah. Is Ian like
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: walking around all butthurt that he didn't get to go?
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: Considering how grumpy Canadians work like he is, he's probably
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  Speaker 3: happy he didn't have to have, what, a nine-hour flight
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  Speaker 3: or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: I do wonder.
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  Speaker 1: He used to just hang at home. Was he going
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  Speaker 1: to be angry either way?
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  Speaker 6: Probably.
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  Speaker 1: I want to do one of these 10-hour flights.
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  Speaker 2: Grumble, grumble.
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  Speaker 3: Would not surprise me at all.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I hope he's not upset.
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  Speaker 3: He's a professional.
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  Speaker 1: If he's listening right now, he's like, yeah, you're damn straight.
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  Speaker 1: It bothers me. Why are you making light of it,
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  Speaker 1: jokey boy? If he wanted to go, I wish he
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  Speaker 1: could have gone. I wish he would have gone. He
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  Speaker 1: should have gone. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like he could have if he wanted to.
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  Speaker 1: And remember that next year. When we want to go,
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  Speaker 1: you should send us. Yeah. Because we really wanted to go.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have said no.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody asked.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you that right now.
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  Speaker 1: Not a single person asked. No.
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  Speaker 3: No one asked me.
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  Speaker 1: Not one of you asked. No. Todd Laiweke.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That is your real name. Well, it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: quite the event. There's no question about it. And it'll
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: take place tomorrow. 8.30 pregame with Anders. Benton on the
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  Speaker 1: call with Al at 9 o'clock. Uh, and, um, and
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  Speaker 1: then they were going to play again on Saturday. It's
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  Speaker 1: not just some one game. You didn't go to all
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  Speaker 1: that trouble just to play one game. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: For me, I'm as someone who's not in Finland, admittedly so,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm looking less at the occasion, more at the
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  Speaker 3: games itself, because this is a big test for the
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  Speaker 3: Seattle crack. And, um, it's like I said, the Stanley
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  Speaker 3: cup can, uh, Stanley cup, uh, obviously contenders, but winners
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  Speaker 3: this past year. They look like the best team in
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  Speaker 3: the NHL again this year. If the Kraken are for real,
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  Speaker 3: and we've kind of dibbled and dabbled into if they
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  Speaker 3: are or not this year, this would be a big test.
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  Speaker 3: If they were to get, I'd even be happy with
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  Speaker 3: just one point out of these two games. That means
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  Speaker 3: at least getting to overtime in one of the two games.
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  Speaker 3: But if you're able to get two points out of
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  Speaker 3: these two games, either going to overtime in both or
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  Speaker 3: winning one of them, I would absolutely be thrilled with this,
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  Speaker 3: considering this is your only two games against the Carolina Hurricanes.
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  Speaker 2: 9-6-1.
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  Speaker 1: To me, it does look like a different team, not
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  Speaker 1: just because they're over. 500, but as you said repeatedly
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  Speaker 1: this week, this is a fantastic team they're playing against.
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  Speaker 1: There's probably a better than decent chance that they're going
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  Speaker 1: to lose both and come back barely over. 500 at
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: 9-8-1 and Looking at it as a wasted opportunity, so
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: there will be no home ice advantage for either team.
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  Speaker 1: This will be just get a point, and if at
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: all possible, get a win, and at least get something
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  Speaker 1: out of this trip. I don't think everybody... I don't
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  Speaker 1: think Lane Lambert wants to go over there for salmon soup.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Alex Koniski's right. Traditionally, the Kraken have risen
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  Speaker 3: to this occasion when they do have a game like this.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: They won 1-0. I think it was against Carolina last
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: year where Joey Decord stood on his head. In the
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: year where Vegas went super far in their Stanley Cup run,
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: they beat them in the Winter Classic. So in these
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: situations where it's a bigger occasion than just a regular
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: hockey game, I think they... If anything, it advantaged more
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: to the Kraken than to Carolina, who was just humming
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: along with their regular schedule. So if you throw a
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: wrench into that, I can only think that would help
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: the Kraken a little bit more. All right.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Well, it should be a lot of fun tomorrow, no
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: question about it. And if you want to take in
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: the game, why not do it at Tulalip Resort Casino?
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: They're waiting for you. They're going to show it. They
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: got all sorts of big screen televisions there in the
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: DraftKings Sportsbook. You can even put a little wager on it. And,
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: of course, you could roll it into something more. I mean,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: you've got Thursday night football tomorrow as well. So why
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: not make a day of it at Tulalip Resort Casino.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: you can combine your favorite sporting events into one convenient
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: indoor day. It's supposed to be rainy all day, I think,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: tomorrow anyway. Perfect day. Yeah, exactly. So head on up
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: to Tulalip Resort Casino, but only if you want more
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: of everything. Coming up next, Cam Cleland will join us
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: on the other side. It's Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: Your home for the Huskies proudly presents our weekly visit
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: with the Dogs color commentator, Cam Cleland.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Hallelujah!
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Brought to you by Warrior Injury Law. Battle tested.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: Now here's Chuck in the morning with the former Husky
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: tight end on Sports Radio 93.3 KJR FM.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: How about I heart jumping the gun on the Christmas music?
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: You catch that?
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Pet peeve of mine.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Not even Thanksgiving yet.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: What's the deal?
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: What's the deal with all of that? Not okay. I
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: hope they don't ruin draftmas too by playing... Christmas music
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: in February. Yeah.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't be surprised.
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: Wouldn't be surprised anymore either.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: What can you do?
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: You can't trust people.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: The only person you can't trust is Cam Cleland, who
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: joins us here on the radio program, most trustworthy person
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: in the business, the former Husky tight end. And now,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: color analyst for your Washington Huskies joins us here on
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: the radio program, as he does every Thursday. How are you, sir?
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: Well, thank you for the hot route.
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: Had to make some small adjustments for old man problems,
• 17:46
  Speaker 7: but that's part of life. Oh, by the way, I
• 17:48
  Speaker 7: think we've discussed this. No Christmas music until after Thanksgiving.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Cam. Thank you.
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: Has been viewed and appreciated.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: Done.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Done.
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: End of story.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: It's an annual tradition.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: End of story.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: So you do watch Planes, Trains, and Automobiles every Thanksgiving.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: I do too.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Favorite part?
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: I mean, it's, oh my gosh, between two pillows. I
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: love them bears. I love them bears. Heck of a game.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: Hell of a game.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I think my favorite part is when.
• 18:17
  Speaker 7: He's– Del Griffith is– yeah, Del Griffith is my spirit animal.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: Always have been.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Wonderful. That's what you were doing. You were– Who doesn't
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: want to sell shower curtains? Yeah, that's why you were late.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: You were selling your shower curtain rings and had an appointment,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: hot appointment going on. I think my favorite part is
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: when he's– when Steve Martin's sleeping in the car and
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: he's playing the piano on the dashboard to Ray Charles
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: and then throws the cigarette.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Come on.
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: The mess around is just.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: The mess around.
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: The mess around.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Right, Charles, yeah.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Then it goes into you're going the wrong way, and
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: then he acts like they're drunk.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: You're going the wrong way.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, spectacular.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: You're going the wrong way.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: Or we'll take it to the next level.
• 18:58
  Speaker 7: How about getting a rental car? You're... Oh, Dotson. I can't.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: So good.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: You're.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: That's Ferris Bueller's.
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: That's Ferris Bueller's day off that she's secretary.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, she is.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: Decade of movies.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It was fun. All right. All right, well, let's
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: talk a little dogs football. Look, before I ask you
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: the inevitable quarterback question, look, I know we're not into
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: moral victories and things like that, but there's just been
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: so much criticism and critique and negativity online I at
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: least want to shed some positive light every time I
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: have a conversation with you on the Huskies. I mean, look,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: they fell behind early. They played terribly in the first
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: half and yet outscored Penn State 19 to nothing in
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: the second half. got it within a field goal. And
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: I was really surprised by the end of the game
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: that they didn't stop them, get the ball back and
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: at least kick a field goal of all times to
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: not be able to get Penn State off the field
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: in the second half. It's that last drive of the game.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: So If anything, if anything, what can you hang your
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: hat on with that game and that comeback? What impressed
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: you the most about the rally effort?
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: Well, I just think, I mean, when you get that
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: amount of, I mean, a game that got away a
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: little bit in the first half, you just don't. He
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: had some things that you had to chase down in
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: the second half. Everyone says that there's this magical thing
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: that happens for adjustments at halftime. That couldn't be the
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: biggest lie in the history of football.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: It's just, it's true. It's like, what adjustments?
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: Did everybody drop a whole new game plan or that really,
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: you know what the best adjustment was? Somebody handed me
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: an orange slice and coach said, we hit the guy
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: harder with the third court.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: There's no adjustments. Okay.
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: You just, you just play better in the second half
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: and you executed better. I, I've been on this train
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: for so long. I think the offense really feeds the defense.
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: But to me, that game, that first half, I was
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: a little shocked how the defense gave up so many
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: big plays, like chunky plays early. And hats off to
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: what Penn State did. But you're right. If I'm going
• 21:04
  Speaker 7: to take away something from this team that I've seen
• 21:07
  Speaker 7: all year, other than that anomaly-type game where Iowa got
• 21:11
  Speaker 7: out of control, you had a chance to win every
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: single football game in the fourth quarter. USC had a chance.
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: Minnesota had a chance. Purdue, you obviously won. Nebraska, you
• 21:22
  Speaker 7: closed it out. And there you had another shot. So
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: the team doesn't quit. It still has a lot of
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: young players that are fighting for a lot. And there's value.
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: And that shows that the leadership of the guys, because
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: there could be a lot of quitters. We know there's
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: a lot of teams that are out there quitting and
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: shutting down and complaining. This team is not doing that.
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: These guys are hungry. So I appreciate that and what
• 21:43
  Speaker 7: the staff and Coach Fish has done for this group.
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: Without all that being said, it was a combination of
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: not just discipline things, but it's been execution things a
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: little bit all year, the ups and downs of football.
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: But that is, Chuck, in my opinion, an inexperienced football
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: team is really what it is that doesn't have a
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: ton of veteran guys in their explosive spots.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you the quarterback question. I'm going
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: to give you the power of hindsight. Go ahead and
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: use it. I know most arguments say, well, now you're
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: using hindsight. I'm going to give you the power of hindsight.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: What should have been done over the last few weeks
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: at the quarterback position?
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: What you mean in keeping Elijah or keeping DeMond?
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: You can lead me down this question.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: Lead me down this question.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Should you have stuck with Elijah Brown once he replaced
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: DeMond with the injury? Should you have stuck with him?
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Should you have gone back to him for Penn State?
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: What should have been done now?
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: What did happen is what happened.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: That's where I stand with it.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I'm on.
• 22:50
  Speaker 7: I don't like this roller coaster of quarterback things. I've
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: never been, never have been a fan of it. I've
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: already seen enough of who can win. I saw Demond
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: win and I saw Elijah win.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: I will say this over and over again.
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: I think Demond gives us a better chance to win
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: a football game at this moment with.
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: This, with this group.
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: Now there could be a lot of you out there
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: that disagree with that and say, Cam's nuts.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: That's fine. You can have that picture.
• 23:14
  Speaker 7: But what I've seen from Demond is that I now think,
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: there's enough on tape, but there's enough plays to be
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: shown even in that second half to tell you this
• 23:26
  Speaker 7: has to be catered.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: The offense has to.
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: Be designed around his strengths now and optimized around his strengths,
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: not trying to make him into somebody he's not.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: If that makes sense.
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: I don't expect them on to drop back 25 times
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: in three step drops, four step drops and, and win
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: from the pocket. It's, It hasn't been successful for him.
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: When we've been successful, he's been creative. And he's so creative.
• 23:52
  Speaker 7: He's athletic.
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: He's fast. He moves.
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: He creates space. He has vision. He has all those things.
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: The lack of running game and inconsistency at the offensive
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: line has nothing to do with what DeMond Williams has done.
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: Nothing to do with it. It's just a combination of
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: a lot of things up front. A lot of things
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: up front with youth up front. And there are film
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: you can break down. There are plays that you can take.
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: But DeMond Williams did not give up 28 points in
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: the first half, did he?
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: No.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: Not that I saw. No.
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: I didn't see DeMond do that. I saw a defense
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: that had played great versus Nebraska. And then at home, Chuck,
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: at home, Husky Stadium might as well be a stale
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: atmosphere with no juice for the ability to intimidate an
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: incoming team. That's more discouraging to me. It's like, okay,
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: we've got to play the rest of the games on
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: the road. That makes you feel happy maybe for Oregon.
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: if we're going into that game, but you still got
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: to defend and go on the road to Michigan State
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: this week and then host Indiana. So why is Husky
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: Stadium not the intimidating place for our defense to shine?
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: That was more discouraging for me in the whole football game.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Sparty. They're having a rough time.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a pretty proud, consistent program over our lifetimes,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: but three and six this year, one and five in
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: the Big Ten there. they're a bit in the ditch
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: right now trying to find their way out. And so
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: with Indiana and Oregon to close out the season coming up,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, there are different forms of must wins. There's
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: must win to save your goals. I think those goals
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: have already gone by the wayside for the dogs. But
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: in terms of just program, just like looking yourself in
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: the mirror at the end of the season, I mean,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: does this register as you got to win this game?
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: This is, this is along the lines of that Wisconsin
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: game last year is what it, I mean, you were
• 25:44
  Speaker 7: better than Wisconsin, but you played in it. Snow, sideways.
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: I don't know what the weather is going to be
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: like in Michigan State. Can't wait to get there.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: Can't hint.
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: But, no, they lost six in a row. And they
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: beat a Michigan team. It's like, what's going on? We
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: don't even know what Michigan is at this point. That's
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: a Kyle Whittingham issue that's going not just sideways, but
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: you could just see it happening with the style of
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: what's going on there. But when we talk about Michigan State,
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: six in a row, Coach Fitzgerald takes over, which I always– Really,
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: really liked Coach Fitzgerald a lot at Northwestern. Thought he
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: got a raw deal. Now he's got a good shot
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: to redo what he has there. He's got his all-new guys,
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: young players. Six losses in a row, but you grab
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: some spark and you're like, dang it. Now they're going
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: to have a little bit of juice knowing that, hey,
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: can they beat us on the road? Do you think
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: they're going to think any different? Absolutely, they're going to
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: play that way. They've got nothing to lose either. They
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: have scholarships. they have coaches that are paid and they
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: have guys that watch film and have game plans. So yeah, they're,
• 26:43
  Speaker 7: we're going to get their best, no question about it,
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: but absolute win on the road.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:47
  Speaker 7: And I'll be honest, Chuck, I feel better on the
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: road right now. I do as this team, I don't
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: know why that is something about it. Maybe, maybe they just,
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: maybe they light it up a little bit more, but
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: I like the way everybody plays on the road at
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: this point.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Uh, so you're going to get 42 degrees, mostly cloudy,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: a low of 32. You won't have to deal with that.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: That's wonderful. That's what you got.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: Football weather. No rain.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: 10-mile-per-hour winds. A little bit of humidity. That's what you
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: got to look forward to. Or not look forward to.
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: Big 10 football is what it should be. It's football
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: in November. All right, Matt.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you for making some time for us here
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: today and working your schedule around for us. We really
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: appreciate it. Have a great weekend, and we'll do this
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: again next week.
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: As always, thank you so much, gentlemen.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Thanks, Cam. Cam Cleland, former Husky tight end legend, now
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: the analyst for your Washington Huskies, right here on the
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: flagship Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM Games at 115 on Saturday
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: from East Lansing, Michigan, as the Dogs will take on Sparty.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: And yeah, that's a game you just can't lose. Otherwise,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, there is no redeeming element from this season
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: that you can hold on to, really. You've got to
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: win this one. I think Jed Fish might be coached
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: for his job at this point. All right, coming up next,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: one last thing to close out our hump day edition
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: of Chuck in the Mornings on Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: We'll be right back. All right, final segment of this
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of Chuck in the Morning. So we'll hand
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: it off to Greg Bell and Jessamyn McIntyre. And so
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: we've got one last thing. We go round the room.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: What do you got, Anders?
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: I'm starting in the division with the Houston Astros. They
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: have now announced the hiring of their new manager, Brad Ausmus,
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: who has spent the last few years as the bench
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: coach to Aaron Boone in New York. So now two of...
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: The New York Yankees coaching staff's members are coming to
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: the AL West, one of them being Tanner Swanson, of course,
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: to the Mariners to be their bench coach. And Brad
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Ausmus getting the job in Houston kind of doesn't really
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: do much for me personally.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Well, I was going to ask you, like, here's a
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: guy with experience.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: No, not a lot of great experience. He hasn't had
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of success, but he does have experience. He
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: has been in a major league clubhouse a lot. He
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: is well-liked and respected throughout the sport. Would you rather
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: have a guy that has been there, done that? Because
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: we talked a lot about experience in the next Mariners
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: manager since the first two didn't have any in the
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: DePoto era. Would you have preferred someone that has experience
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: but has never really seen.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Or what the Mariners ultimately chose, which is someone that
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: is on the opposite end of the world of experience?
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: I would rather go for upside. Try and get the
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: next big thing. I'm Houston. I'd rather have Joe Espada
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: than Brad Ausmus. Personally, I don't like... I mean, I
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: guess that's... I don't know a ton about Brad Ausmus,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: but it just seems like if you're going to do
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: the safe hire where.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Well, when he first stopped playing and then went to
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: the coaching, people thought he was going to be the
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: next great thing. Because catcher, number one. That he was
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: new to the game. That he got along with all
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: types of personality. People really thought he was going to
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: be a special, special manager.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: And he just hadn't had the results. And then you
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: wondered if he was ever going to get a shot again,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: and now he is. I guess at the end of
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: the day... I'm it doesn't worry me. Oh, the Astros
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: got a better manager than what we did.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: That didn't trigger in my head. But I don't think
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: it's a bad choice. And if Ausmus would have been
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: hired here, I don't think it would have been a
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: bad choice.
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  Speaker 3: No, I don't think so either. Although I will say
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: just you could tell a lot about how people feel
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  Speaker 3: about him based on the reaction from where they're leaving.
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  Speaker 3: Seemed to me Yankees fans were a lot more pissed
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: off about losing Tanner Swanson to the Mariners than they
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: were about Brad Osman to the Astros. So that tells
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: you a lot about, you know, where those two guys are. Again,
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: we're going for upside here, and I kind of like it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go. Okay. All right, kid, what do you got
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: for one last thing?
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  Speaker 6: Shout out to my wife. She just sent me a
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  Speaker 6: really interesting and cool video. It made you think a
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: little bit. So I'll have you guys do this exercise.
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  Speaker 6: You don't have to answer it, but it's just something
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: to think about.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: We're not going to judge your wife. That's just not fair.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think that's going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: If you're just going to show us a picture and
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: we've got to give her a grade, we're not going
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: to do it. We're not doing that.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't put that pressure on myself or her.
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  Speaker 6: How would you guys feel if you could see how
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: many more times you would see every single person that
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: you've ever met? So for Anderson, there's a number, let's
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: say 445 times.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I see.
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  Speaker 6: Your best friend, 200. Okay. How would you then change,
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  Speaker 6: or would you keep some things the same?
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  Speaker 3: Like if you had a cap about how many times
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  Speaker 3: you could see them?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's floating over your head.
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  Speaker 3: So I, for example, Anderson, probably 199. Yeah. How would
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  Speaker 3: I impact it to get more? Or, you know, 199
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  Speaker 3: is perfect.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So that's just something to think about, like for your parents.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Best friends, siblings.
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  Speaker 3: That would be different. For people with work, there's nothing
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  Speaker 3: really we can do.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Definitely less people with work.
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  Speaker 3: But it's just an exercise to think about as you
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: get older.
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  Speaker 1: How that would change.
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: So, yeah, I was just like, wow, I never thought
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: of it like that. But there is a cap. There's
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: a number. Whether you know it or not is different.
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  Speaker 6: You can do the math yourself.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily worried about how often I see people.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Because I did this. I don't know. You probably don't
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  Speaker 1: even know this. Neither one of you. Two years ago,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: I went home to Illinois and I went and surprised
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: all of my old friends. And the idea behind it
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: was because Mark Crochelle and another friend of mine by
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: the name of Mark Rita passed away in the same
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: calendar year. And I thought, like, I was sure I
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: was going to see those two gentlemen again. Yeah. I
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: didn't go out of my way to make sure that
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  Speaker 1: I did. And then all of a sudden, now I
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: don't have that opportunity anymore. So I took two different trips,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: one to Vegas to see my Vegas friends, and then
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: one home to Illinois to see my Illinois fans. And
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: I just went around just to make sure that I
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: saw them at least one more time. I'm more worried
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: about seeing people at least one more time than I
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: am thinking about, should I increase my number? How often
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I should see someone? So that's kind of the way
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: I approach it. But that's a really interesting thought. Yeah,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: you're right. That is a good point. That is a
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: good thing.
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  Speaker 3: Thought experiment.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to think about that. Yeah. We got to
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: turn off the mics. I'm going to still be thinking
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  Speaker 1: about that.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I'm going to close with this because we didn't really
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: talk about it today. And it was news yesterday. But J.P.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Crawford officially told, yeah, you're not going to be back
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: on the Mariners. And this is a guy, Anders, who
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: wants to be a Mariner. Financially, how much he wanted
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: to be a Mariner, I don't know. Would he have
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: been willing to take league minimum? I doubt it. But
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: even that, I think he could have taken league minimum,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: and I think they still would have wanted to move
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: on from him. And it's not that he was a
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: bad Mariner. He was a good Mariner, and he was...
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: He was one of the favorite Mariners in the clubhouse
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: amongst the players. There's no question about it. It just
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: felt to me that the J.P. Crawford era was over.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Totally agree. And let's let somebody else. I think he
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: still has a little bit of baseball. He's going to
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: sign on with somebody else. But for Mariner fans, for
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Seattle sports fans, they love the guy that wants to
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: be here. And he desperately wanted to be here. Yeah.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: And he's not going to be.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: For me, it's another signal that they're turning the page
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: like they could have easily like it would have been
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: a safe choice. There would have been some people that
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: would have ridiculed it, but there would be a lot
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: of people that would say, all right, you know, it
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: could have been worse if you brought him back. that's
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: a sign they want some things to be different.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: New leadership, new culture.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: And I think that.
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: You've seen that.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: And JP was a huge part of both.
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: Big time.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: You see that with the managerial hire. You see that
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: with the staff, the way it's filling out. And this
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: is another example of that. And I think that excites me.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: I think that even if you're not going to get
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: a ton of the entire newly new roster, this shows
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: that they're willing to do something different next year.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: How many more times do you think you'll see JP Crawford?
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Just to bring both worlds together.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: I don't mean on television. Personally, how many more times
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: do you think you'll... Because let's think about that.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say four. I'm going to see him
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: four more times.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Only four more times.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I'll probably effort to see him more now.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Philosophical here.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Now that Chris's wife has opened our eyes.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: We will talk to you tomorrow at 6. Greg and
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Jessamyn next on Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.