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PREGAME: Ohio State vs. Kent State: What To Watch For · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Good morning from Ohio Stadium, site of today's game between
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  Speaker 1: the Kent State Golden Flashes and the Ohio State Buckeyes.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Tom Moore of BuckeyeInsiders.com, joined by Jack Mileti of BuckeyeInsiders.com,
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  Speaker 1: and Tony Gerderman, also of BuckeyeInsiders.com.
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  Speaker 2: What an astounding coincidence.
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  Speaker 3: Here we are.
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  Speaker 2: Tony, this is not the biggest game of the year,
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  Speaker 2: but this, yeah, I know, the look of shock on
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  Speaker 2: your face. I don't want to undersell this.
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  Speaker 3: It's either the second or third biggest.
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  Speaker 1: Game of the year.
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  Speaker 2: So far, yes. Arguably, yes.
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  Speaker 1: This, though, is one of these games where it's a
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  Speaker 1: really nice day. This is shaping up, barring something really unexpected,
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  Speaker 1: to be a relatively stress-free day for Ohio State fans.
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  Speaker 1: And probably a good opportunity to see a lot of
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  Speaker 1: younger players, but also maybe more so, let's see what
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  Speaker 1: the progress looks like since last week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is definitely not Western Michigan walking into the door.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 5: So I wouldn't expect too much of a fight from
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  Speaker 5: Kent State, but Yeah, I think the one thing we're
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  Speaker 5: all looking forward to seeing is a lot of the
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  Speaker 5: young guys that we didn't get to see against Texas,
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  Speaker 5: or at least we saw a bunch of Chris Henry Jr.
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  Speaker 5: and Brock Boyd, but we didn't see them get the ball.
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  Speaker 5: So let's see them get the ball, see what they
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  Speaker 5: can do with it. Obviously, everybody wants to see more
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  Speaker 5: of Legend and Kari Wilder on defense, but also you
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  Speaker 5: just want to continue seeing the veterans, the guys that
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  Speaker 5: are going to be leaned on this year, you want
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  Speaker 5: to see them do something today, whether that's the interior
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  Speaker 5: of the defensive line, whether that's Julian Sand being 20
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  Speaker 5: for 22, just looking like he belongs and that this
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  Speaker 5: is very easy for him. I want to see Devin
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  Speaker 5: McEwen get back to going where he was against Ball State.
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  Speaker 5: So I think a lot of the stuff that we
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  Speaker 5: wanted to see against Ball State we'll see here, but
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  Speaker 5: also some of the stuff we wanted to see against
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  Speaker 5: Texas that we didn't, we'll see here.
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  Speaker 1: And, Chuck, this is one of these games to me
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  Speaker 1: where I don't think you can look at anything that
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  Speaker 1: happens today and go, you know, dust your hands and say,
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  Speaker 1: problem solved, they have addressed the issue. If you see
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  Speaker 1: stuff that you're expecting to see happen that doesn't happen,
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  Speaker 1: if they, for example, can't run the ball against Kent State,
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  Speaker 1: that would probably make me go red flag. But I
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  Speaker 1: don't know that there's anything that I could see today
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  Speaker 1: that I would go, okay, problem solved, cross that one
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  Speaker 1: off the list.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was trying to go through thinking, what can
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  Speaker 6: we learn out of today, no matter what happens?
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  Speaker 4: What can we learn on a positive note?
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  Speaker 6: I don't think there's anything we could see today other
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  Speaker 6: than individual performances that would make us think, okay, the
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  Speaker 6: running game looked great in wide zone today and it
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  Speaker 6: looked bad against that. You know, like nothing's going to
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  Speaker 6: make us, give us a takeaway like that. But to
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  Speaker 6: Tony's point, a lot of guys that we're looking for
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  Speaker 6: kind of to get involved. And I think a couple
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  Speaker 6: of those veterans as well, like Quay Rousaw, like to
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  Speaker 6: see him come and do something, played 20 snaps against
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  Speaker 6: Texas and, Didn't really notice him on the field other
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  Speaker 6: than dropping back into pass coverage.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't give up any catches.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 6: James, I'd like to see James Smith maybe have kind
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  Speaker 6: of a breakout game, his first at Ohio State. Something
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  Speaker 6: to get some momentum going for some of these new
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  Speaker 6: guys because they're depending on them big time, and I'm
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  Speaker 6: kind of focused on the defensive line today.
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  Speaker 5: Jason Moore being another guy who has shown up twice
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  Speaker 5: this season and emerging as maybe a guy who's going
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  Speaker 5: to play.
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  Speaker 3: More and more.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he feels like he's been one of the more
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  Speaker 1: pleasant surprises on the team so far because that was
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  Speaker 1: someone who we viewed as there's a top four and
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  Speaker 1: then Jason Moore is fifth. Now he's maybe sort of
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  Speaker 1: creeping his way up that list. Now some of that
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  Speaker 1: is the guys ahead of him have not necessarily played
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  Speaker 1: to the standard that you were looking for. That three-tech
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  Speaker 1: spot last week with James Smith and Edric Houston, and
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  Speaker 1: I recognize that they don't exclusively play in that three-tech spot,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm kind of lumping them together because that's where
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  Speaker 1: you sort of look for them when it's just a
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  Speaker 1: four-down line.
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  Speaker 2: Those are that's two guys that I would like to see.
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  Speaker 1: A little more from those guys because it just feels
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  Speaker 1: like you haven't gotten what you were expecting to this point.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah I think we're all still waiting for Edgar Houston's
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  Speaker 5: breakout game as well which now third year you'd have
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  Speaker 5: hoped it would have happened sooner and if it happens
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  Speaker 5: here it's like well I mean this is no like
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  Speaker 5: Michael Hall against what Michigan State where he had seven
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  Speaker 5: plays in the backfield on eight snaps sure you'll take
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  Speaker 5: that but Even I think Will Smith Jr. was getting
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  Speaker 5: some three-tech snaps last week against Texas because Jason Moore
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  Speaker 5: may be that number two nose tackle right now. But yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I really want to see more from Edrick, more from
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  Speaker 5: James Smith. We've heard so much about James Smith. And
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  Speaker 5: we saw some interesting pursuit against Paul State from James
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  Speaker 5: Smith where he kind of almost ran past Kenyatta Jackson
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  Speaker 5: on the hoof trying to get to Keldrick Luster. Grabbed
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  Speaker 5: him by the horse collar and got that penalty, but
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  Speaker 5: I really also just want to see these guys get home,
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  Speaker 5: get to the quarterback, whether that's Kari Wilder, whether that's
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  Speaker 5: James Smith, where, yeah, they're creating pressure.
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  Speaker 3: The first week, Kari Wilder's pressure led to an interception.
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  Speaker 5: The second week, Kari Wilder's pressure led to the fourth
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  Speaker 5: down pickup or third down pickup that continued a Texas
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  Speaker 5: scoring drive. Not that pressure's a bad thing, but let's
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  Speaker 5: bring the quarterback home.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you looked at the PFF grades, Kari
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  Speaker 1: Wilder was right near the bottom, and it was because
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  Speaker 1: he played five snaps, Got pressure on two of them,
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  Speaker 1: but his tackling grade was terrible because he got his
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  Speaker 1: arms on Arch Manning and couldn't bring him down.
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  Speaker 2: And a penalty. And a penalty, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So a little bit of a, you know, probably a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a small sample size issue there.
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  Speaker 3: And no credit for causing the first penalty.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. So, you know, probably a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: a small sample size issue there. And probably, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to guess, will not be the lowest graded player on
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  Speaker 2: the defense this week.
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  Speaker 3: No, let's do that. Let's guess.
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  Speaker 1: Well, someone who I'm guessing is not going to be
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  Speaker 1: graded at all this week is Zion Grady. He came out,
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  Speaker 1: he went out last week with a leg injury. Ryan
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  Speaker 1: Day said not a long-term issue, not expected to be
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  Speaker 1: a long-term issue. This, though, feels like a game where
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  Speaker 1: if there's any kind of an issue at all, go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and sit him out and play some other guys.
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  Speaker 1: Because this is an opportunity for not just Kari Wilder,
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  Speaker 1: but also someone like Ebi Satonale. Or, you know, this
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  Speaker 1: is a great chance for Dre Quinn to maybe play
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more today.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was thinking of Dre as well, looking at
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  Speaker 6: who's going to start and what Ryan Day said after
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  Speaker 6: the game and talking about it. We've got to find
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  Speaker 6: a way to get Kari Wilder in the game. I
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  Speaker 6: don't think it needs to be that much of a
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  Speaker 6: puzzle here at Penn State.
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  Speaker 4: Put him on the edge.
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  Speaker 6: Let him play his position. If you give up some runs,
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  Speaker 6: let him learn. This is a let him learn kind
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  Speaker 6: of game. I certainly wouldn't be surprised if he didn't start,
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  Speaker 6: but I think he ought to. If Bo Atkinson is
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  Speaker 6: the surprise starter here today, I don't think that would
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  Speaker 6: shock anybody based on everything that we've heard coming up
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  Speaker 6: and Obviously a surprise that he only played 19 snaps
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  Speaker 6: in game one, and then I don't think against Texas
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  Speaker 6: he played but 11 snaps, and that was when everybody
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  Speaker 6: was tired at the end. But do they potentially, I
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  Speaker 6: don't know, reward him for hard work?
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  Speaker 4: And he gets a start.
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  Speaker 6: I'm really interested to see what that looks like opposite Kenyatta.
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  Speaker 6: Epi Satani could certainly play a factor and.
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  Speaker 4: Show off his ability. crazy uh toolbox of pass rush moves.
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  Speaker 6: That i don't think he's gotten to show yet out
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  Speaker 6: on the field we've seen it uh behind closed doors
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  Speaker 6: it's wild the guy's been training since he was in
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  Speaker 6: sixth grade with this wild set of moves and we
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  Speaker 6: could really see a breakout in a game like this
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  Speaker 6: now i'll just.
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  Speaker 5: Say regarding the zion grady injury the philip daniels injury
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  Speaker 5: it's just too bad that ohio state doesn't have the
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  Speaker 5: medical staff that lsu has.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah sam levitt in case you were not familiar with
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  Speaker 1: the uh this week's Lane Kiffin nonsense du jour. It
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  Speaker 1: was Sam Levitt, the starting quarterback for LSU, went from
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  Speaker 1: doubtful to questionable to off the injury.
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  Speaker 2: Report entirely in the span of 48 hours. It's a
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  Speaker 2: medical miracle. What a shock.
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  Speaker 1: In addition to Kari Wilder, I think someone else, another
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  Speaker 1: one of the young guys who a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: are looking forward to seeing today is Riley Pettyjohn. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure you're going to see, you know, that's another
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  Speaker 1: person that Ryan Day said this week would like to
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  Speaker 1: see more. They're looking for a way to get him
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  Speaker 1: on the field. And much like Chuck said about some
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  Speaker 1: of the defensive ends, this feels like a real opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to play him early and often.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I wrote about him a little bit in
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  Speaker 5: my 10 Things People Will Be Saying After the Game,
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  Speaker 5: where to me, Riley Pettyjohn is the guy that even
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  Speaker 5: if he does wrong, in Ohio State fans' eyes, he
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  Speaker 5: can do no wrong. They don't see any wrong in
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  Speaker 5: his play right now, so they want to see him
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  Speaker 5: more out there. I do expect to come out of
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  Speaker 5: this game saying, You can just leave him on the field.
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  Speaker 5: You don't necessarily have to pull him off the field.
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  Speaker 5: But I liked what I saw against Texas where he
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  Speaker 5: goes after the ball on that sack of Arch Manning.
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  Speaker 5: We talked about it where he went after Arch.
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  Speaker 3: Peyton Pierce was just waiting for Arch to come to him.
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  Speaker 3: And Bradley Pennyjohn just shot past and made the play.
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  Speaker 5: He leads the team in tackles for loss now with two.
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  Speaker 5: He had one and a half against Texas. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: continue to see him play and basically play two or
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  Speaker 5: three linebacker spots, making plays and getting after Drew DeShields,
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  Speaker 5: the Kent State quarterback, and seeing him bring him down.
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  Speaker 5: But I think right now Riley Pettyjohn's one of those
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  Speaker 5: guys that people want to see more of on defense, and.
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  Speaker 3: For good reason.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Christian Allegro, Peyton Pierce, those guys are still
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  Speaker 1: obviously going to be getting plenty of snaps.
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  Speaker 2: It seems to me like.
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  Speaker 1: TJ Alford and Riley Pettyjohn were sort of viewed a
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  Speaker 1: little bit interchangeably coming into the season, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if this is accurate. But to me, Jock, it
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  Speaker 1: feels like Riley Pettyjohn is probably like a half step
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  Speaker 1: ahead right now in terms of being the third linebacker
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  Speaker 1: out of that group.
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  Speaker 6: You know, when you look at just kind of dynamic athlete,
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  Speaker 6: Riley Pettyjohn's on a different level. And that's something that,
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  Speaker 6: you know, we've known all along. He was the number
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  Speaker 6: two linebacker in the country for that reason. This is
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  Speaker 6: a guy who ran like a 10.6, 100 meter as
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  Speaker 6: a linebacker.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's wildly athletic. And when you see.
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  Speaker 6: That You know, when you juxtapose that against Pierce, who's
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  Speaker 6: safe and going to make that tackle, Riley's going to
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  Speaker 6: make a play. And that's kind of the difference there.
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  Speaker 6: And it just flashes. You got to get him in there.
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  Speaker 6: But when we look at who's playing behind Peyton.
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  Speaker 4: Pierce, it's T.J. Alford. T.J.
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  Speaker 6: Not quite ready, and people talk about them interchangeably, like
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  Speaker 6: I want to see Riley and T.J.
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  Speaker 4: T.J.
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  Speaker 6: Needs to come in and get reps and learn how
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  Speaker 6: to play middle linebacker. And we need to see a
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  Speaker 6: lot of those reps if people expect him to kind
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  Speaker 6: of be taking that lion's share.
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  Speaker 4: And I think we're going to see a lot of
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  Speaker 4: that today.
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  Speaker 1: In terms of the secondary, obviously Ohio State's top, Corners,
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  Speaker 1: Devin Sanchez, Jermaine Matthews. It felt like they both had
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  Speaker 1: pretty good games last week. And Jay Timmons as well
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  Speaker 1: in the slot felt like he had a very good
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  Speaker 1: game last week as well. This is a game where
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  Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to seeing. We've mentioned a couple
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  Speaker 1: Alabama transfers already in James Smith and Quay Russo, but
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  Speaker 1: we'll see what Cam Calhoun is.
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  Speaker 2: But really what I'm really.
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  Speaker 1: Interested in is the younger guys behind them, Jordan Thomas
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  Speaker 1: and Dominic Kelly. This is a chance for those guys
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  Speaker 1: to get some run. Because you'd like to see someone
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  Speaker 1: else really step up. Because, you know, Riley Pettyjohn feels
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  Speaker 1: like you're playing a young guy. You've got a real
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  Speaker 1: high upside there. I think Cam Calhoun is the sort
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  Speaker 1: of solid veteran. You know, not necessarily as high a ceiling,
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  Speaker 1: but probably a higher floor. Dominic Kelly and Jordan Thomas
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  Speaker 1: feel like as the season goes along, the best version
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  Speaker 1: of the Ohio State defense probably has one of those
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  Speaker 1: guys as the third corner if they can continue to
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  Speaker 1: elevate their games.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and everybody loves Jordan Thomas' energy and what he
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  Speaker 5: brings to the defense when he's out there. He just
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  Speaker 5: needs experience. That's something that Cam Calhoun has. But I
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  Speaker 5: view this as eventually Jordan Thomas bypassing Cam Calhoun. And
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  Speaker 5: Don Kelly, kind of a surprise at this point that
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  Speaker 5: he's playing as late as he is based on repping
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  Speaker 5: with the ones and twos during spring and also during
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  Speaker 5: fall camp, thought he would be more involved and potentially
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  Speaker 5: a rotational guy in the secondary. And that's clearly not
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  Speaker 5: where he is right now, and maybe he can get there.
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  Speaker 5: And games like this will help him, certainly. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I think right now the trajectory for Jordan Thomas I
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  Speaker 5: think is impossible to ignore.
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  Speaker 3: That doesn't mean that.
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  Speaker 5: Dom Kelly or somebody can't hold him off, but I
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  Speaker 5: just like where Jordan Thomas is heading right now.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to skip offense.
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  Speaker 1: We'll get to offense in a minute. I want to
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  Speaker 1: talk a little bit about special teams, though, because this
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  Speaker 1: is an opportunity. Last week we saw Brendan Innes returning
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  Speaker 1: punts and Devin McEwen back on kickoffs. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: Devin McEwen actually returned any kickoffs. I think they were
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  Speaker 1: all sort of touchbacks. This is a week when I'm
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  Speaker 1: expecting to see Legend Bay back there. And more so, Jock,
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  Speaker 1: than 100-yard return. I almost just want to see good
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  Speaker 1: decisions back there. I'd rather see him... You know, you
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  Speaker 1: figure they're going to get maybe two kickoffs, maybe. If
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  Speaker 1: he fair catches one in the end zone and runs
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  Speaker 1: the other one back out to the 30-yard line or
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  Speaker 1: something like that, that would almost be better than a
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  Speaker 1: 100-yard kickoff return and a terrible decision where he runs
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  Speaker 1: it out and gets tackled at the 12.
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  Speaker 4: Probably to Ryan Day. This is what he talked about.
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  Speaker 6: I think he's mentioned it maybe three times in the
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  Speaker 6: last two times we've heard him. It's about these young
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  Speaker 6: guys earning the trust of their coaches. And clearly Legend
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  Speaker 6: had a hiccup last time we were here or two. Um,
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  Speaker 6: he's got to be able to make that decision to,
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  Speaker 6: to follow that cue from the captain there in front
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  Speaker 6: of him doing this. And usually that's what happens on
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  Speaker 6: a kickoff these, this day and age, which is unfortunate. Uh,
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  Speaker 6: it would be nice to see him return one, but hopefully, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: everything goes smooth. And, uh, speaking of special teams, something
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  Speaker 6: I noticed, Kari Wilder on kick coverage, the biggest guy,
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  Speaker 6: the heaviest guy by a lot on kick coverage. which
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  Speaker 6: really speaks to his speed and athleticism. Not that we
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  Speaker 6: didn't need to add more accolades onto that, but that
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  Speaker 6: was interesting.
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  Speaker 3: There should be a weight limit allowed on kick coverage.
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  Speaker 2: Like sprint football?
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  Speaker 4: Right, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to put the red X on the helmet.
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  Speaker 3: You're not allowed out there on kick coverage because if
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  Speaker 3: you were to actually hit a kick returner, that would
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  Speaker 3: not go well.
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  Speaker 1: Not only on kick coverage, but one of the first
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  Speaker 1: guys down there. Who's going to block him? Right, not
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  Speaker 1: trailing guys by 15 yards. He was down there. Not
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  Speaker 1: quite as fast as Inky Jones, but he was in
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  Speaker 1: the picture.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like the Kool-Aid man bursting into your kitchen, man.
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  Speaker 3: Just stay out of the way.
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  Speaker 5: It will be interesting if Legend Bay has been so
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  Speaker 5: coached down that he fields the ball at the two
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  Speaker 5: and takes a knee with no fair catch. And then
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  Speaker 5: Ohio State gets the ball at the two. But it
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  Speaker 5: will be interesting to see. Because you know he wants
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  Speaker 5: to make a play. But also he wants to listen
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  Speaker 5: to his coaches and And then also I have to
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  Speaker 5: listen to Brandon Ennis, who's there probably as my third
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  Speaker 5: base coach.
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  Speaker 2: Basically Coach Brandon.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: But, you know, it's like, I feel like I could
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  Speaker 5: do something here. But also I know the coaches. It's
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  Speaker 5: just a weird thing where, yes, we want you to
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  Speaker 5: make plays. Don't you dare make a play. What am
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: I supposed to do?
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: On offense, I don't know that there's anything I could
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: see from Julian saying that would make me think, OK,
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: everything is perfect again.
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: But.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: This does feel like a game where, boy, I think
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: you said 20 for 22 earlier. This is a game
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: where you assume the wide receivers are going to be
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: able to get some separation. You assume that he's going
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: to have time in the pocket. This is a game
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: where this should be an 85% or 90% completion percentage
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: for double-digit yards per attempt.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and none of Darian Muntz's dink and dunk, you know,
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: throwing screens.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah.
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: Legitimate stuff where he's showing off his accuracy. He'll have
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: all the opportunities.
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: 250 yards passing in the first half, something like that,
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: and doesn't play in the second half.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: Just looking comfortable. What would convince you, Tom?
• 15:36
  Speaker 5: What if he's like 12 carries for 120 yards?
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: I would be if Julian Zane has 12 carries today,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: I might walk home. I don't think that's– I'm not
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: expecting– Including sacks. Including– If he has enough sacks, believe me,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: I'm going to have to walk home because Columbus is
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: going to be burning if he has eight sacks or
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: something like that today.
• 16:01
  Speaker 5: All of the cars just blocking the highway so you
• 16:03
  Speaker 5: can only walk to get home.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, Julian's saying it feels like, okay, you're going
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: to see what you're going to see. And if you
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: don't see that, that's going to be a little bit of, okay,
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: what's going on with Julian's saying. Jack, the last time
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: we were here, Luke Fahey was the first guy off
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: the bench. I assume that's going to be the case again,
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: but I assume you're probably, much like two weeks ago,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: probably going to see both guys. What are you expecting
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: to see from Luke Fahey and Ortavian St.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: Clair?
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: To me, just talking about quarterback, this is by far
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: the most interesting thing of the day here. Who would
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: have come out if Julian needed a breather or something
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: at Texas? I think it would have been Luke Fahey,
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: which is wild. And I think we'll probably see him first.
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: And if This hasn't been announced, right, who's the official.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: Backup quarterback yet.
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: The last word we got from Ryan Day was they
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: both did a good job after Ball State. If Fahey
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: comes out first, and I think, like you said, I
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: think they're both going to get their opportunity here, and
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: Fahey outplays him again, which I think he did just
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: by a little bit, though. Tabian did good game one,
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: but Fahey looked like the offense was running better under Fahey.
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: If that happens again... you know, you got to think
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: at this point, all right, now he's the guy that
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: moves forward the rest of the season, getting all those
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: number two reps in practice, getting all those number two
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: reps in blowout games. And that is a huge development
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: as we talk about the future, not so much this season,
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: but it's, it's drastically different than 2024 when we sat
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: there going, all right, well, you got Will Howard to
• 17:31
  Speaker 6: Julian Sane to Tabian St.
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: Clair coming in. Like we knew it right then.
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: If it'll be interesting because, Ryan Day could just continue
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: to kick the can down the road by playing Tavion St.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: Clair first and just say.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: You know, it's an open competition, but also you're getting
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: into Big Ten play. So the backup quarterback cannot be
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: an open competition. It's got to be settled. And so
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: if it is Luke Fahey, then that statement has been made.
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: No matter what he says after the game, he has
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: made his decision. The grades have been announced. And so, yeah,
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: this then changes what we're going to be talking about
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: in January.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: Greatly. And even talking now, like, When you look at.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: The rest of the nation, you're like, that guy would
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: look pretty good in Scarlet and Gray, and that guy
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: would look pretty good.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: I wonder what Lincoln Kienholz is doing right now.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: That sort of thing. Would he be interested? So that's
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: not dismissing Luke Fahey or Tavian St.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Clair.
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: It's if Julian Sane is not back and you just
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: have this decision to make, do you go with an
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: unproven quarterback or do you go with a proven quarterback?
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: And that unproven quarterback has to be like Julian Sane
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: for you to be like, yeah, that's the guy.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: We're ready for him to take over the mantle. And
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: he proved to be ready last year.
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: That's just a decision now in the world of college
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: football where you don't have to go with an unproven
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: guy if you don't want to.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: No, and they probably will have several options. I think
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Julian Sand coming back is a more real possibility than
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I would have said six months ago at this point.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: We'll see.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: A long way to go.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: We'll see what the draft class looks like. Dante Moore's
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Stock probably looks a little different than it did a
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: few weeks ago. Arch Manning stock, we'll see where that
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: goes over the course of the season.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Maybe Dante Moore returns to Oregon, and then boom, Dylan Raiola.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Back where we.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Saw him in the golf cart four years ago.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, boy, there's a lot of many happy returns that
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: we could be looking forward to.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: That's a January problem. That's not a September conversation.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: Six shows a day in January about quarterbacks.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: So, no, stop.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Too many views.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: No, no, don't.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: The running back position today, I think you're going to
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: see a wide, wide spectrum of guys getting carries.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I think you're going to see....
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Four to five, maybe six. You know, this might be
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: the favorite key appearance for the season. This might be
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: the Turbo Rogers appearance for the season.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: Stanley Jackson Jr.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Stanley Jackson Jr. I know they, I mean, lost his
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: black stripe. One of those guys who just kind of
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: does everything right. I'm sure they would love to get
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: him a couple carries today. But this feels like a
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: game where, again, Ohio State, there's nothing Ohio State can
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: do today on the ground that I will go, okay,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: No more concerns there. If they're getting guys hit in
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: the backfield, if they're getting, you know, if you have
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: guys not breaking tackles, that's a concern. I would be
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: a little, you know, at what point, what's the number
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: where you don't, where you think, okay, this is at
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: least not a concern to me right now. It's not,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: this isn't worrying, is it? Do they have to run
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: for five yards of carry, six yards of carry? I mean,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: I feel like they could be in that seven yards
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: of carry range, but, you know, somewhere below that is
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: where you kind of go. If it's below this number,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I go, oh, red flag.
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: I mean, if you're under five yards of carry against
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: a MAAC team with, you know, this offensive line and
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: these running backs, we've got an issue, like, big time.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Like, that's a problem.
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: But what I really would love to see out of
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: the backs is can we see– a little bit of
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: Legend Bay as the tailback in the regular offense. Can
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: we just see that? Ryan Day said, yeah, we're building
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: out the package. We're still working on the package. And
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: he can also, of course, just play running back.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: A couple of series, you know, just running out, like
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: that's Legend's series. That I think I'd love to see.
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: I'd also like to see Isaiah get in a rhythm
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: like that. He's a guy right now who, you know,
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: Jacoby is complimenting Bowe well. You're going to need to
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: turn to him at some point. And I don't, I
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: just don't feel like he's really gotten the chance to
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: get Multiple series in a row to kind of get
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: things going. Really his entire career, except for the Wisconsin game,
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: where he had a great game. He's always just kind
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: of like, you know, he gets a series here, a
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: couple carries here. And based off what we saw in
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: the preseason out of him, I really want to see
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: it out here.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: And I don't feel like we've gotten the opportunity to
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: get this year.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Seven carries on the season for Isaiah West. Seven carries
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: on the season for Legend Bay.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: And the usage of Legend Bay is one of the
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: reasons why I said during the offseason, like you can't,
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: look at him as where is he in the running
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: back depth chart because he's his own position. It's like
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: they're building out that package for him. But as Ryan said,
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: and you just said, they do want to get him
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: in there. Now it's your turn to go play running back.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: But I'm with you. Isaiah West, to me, feels like
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: a guy who needs some carries to get going, but
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: he might get two in a row and then, okay,
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: we'll see either next quarter or next game. What are
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: you supposed to do with that? But I guess be
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: more effective in practice. I don't know what the situation
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: is there. But I do expect Bo to hit some
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: home runs today.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: That's why, you know, what is the yardage number? What
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: does it need? What's the average?
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: Tell me, give us what we're talking about. Give me
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: the median run where it's like, what does this look
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: like over the course of, you know, from carry to carry?
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: Because Ball State, they average over six yards carry or whatever,
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: but it was not. It was three carries that put
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: them there. And so, like, I want to see just
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: a consistent five to eight Four to 12, another 13-yard run,
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: where you run the ball six times down the field
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: and you go 75, 80 yards and you never have
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: to throw the ball.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if your median run is four and a half
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: yards and then you've got some big numbers that skew
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: the top line average, sure, that's fine. You don't want
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: to see a lot of twos and ones and even threes.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: You need to be in that four to five range consistently.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like Michigan against Oklahoma.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: had, I think, maybe three runs or four or five
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: runs over five yards. And they rushed for 150 yards,
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: but half of that was Bryce Underwood.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Half of this is not going to be Julian Sanchez, probably,
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: but we'll see. We'll see.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Get a long walk if it is.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: The wide receiver position, Jeremiah Smith, 26 yards away from
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: breaking the Ohio State career receiving yards record. Should I
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: pre-write that? I would go ahead and pre-write that for
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: the first quarter, yes. What's more interesting to me is
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: everyone else.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Devin McEwen.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: We saw Devin McEwen have 97 yards or whatever it
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: was against Ball State. You'd like to see a bigger
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: number out of him today. You'd like to see a
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: bigger number out of Brandon Innes, who had, I think,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: three catches in the first game before he got hurt
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: and one catch against Texas. You'd like to see him in.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I'd love to see five catches for 75 yards out
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: of Brandon Innes today. But, man, Tony mentioned earlier Brock Boyd,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Chris Henry Jr., These guys have gotten snaps. They've gotten
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: reps out there. They just haven't gotten the ball very much.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: This is an opportunity to, okay, again, this is the
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: high upside later in the season play. The high upside
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: version of this team has Chris Henry Jr. and Brock
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Boyd contributing meaningfully in October and November in these big games.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Let's see what they got today.
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, when I look at, you know, we talk about
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: the conversation about did you lean on Jeremiah too much
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: against Texas? with 16 total targets, should you have gotten
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: the other guys more involved, gotten McEwen and Ennis more involved,
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: just a couple of targets between the two of them,
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: and then, okay, maybe the natural reaction would be to
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: come back and try to work on that today a lot.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: I think that's something game by game.
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: You've got to get those guys involved in the game.
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: I don't think it helps you much here. I feel
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: like I know what Brandon Ennis can do, clutch catch guy.
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: I don't think there's a ton I need to see
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: out of him to know who he is, which means, yeah,
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: a little bit of Devin McEwen involved, would be great.
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: But to me, this is all about Chris Henry and
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: Brock Boyd. I want to see those guys get action
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: today after 20 snaps combined against Texas.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: No targets.
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: Looking really good, though, out there running routes. I mean,
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: I want to see those guys get some confidence up,
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: Julian building some chemistry with them on the field in
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: a real game.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: And I'm with you, Tom.
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: I think that later on this season, those guys elevate
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: your ceiling for sure.
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're the future of the position, but they can
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: also be the present along with what they have here.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: And they need to be, because without them, it's a
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: thin room.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Yep, for sure.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Let's wrap up with the offensive line. We're not expecting
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Philip Daniels today. That feels like... I mean, it's not
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: official yet, but we're expecting to not see Philip Daniels,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: much like Zion Grady. Not expected to be a long-term thing,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: but really no reason to push him out there. This
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: is an opportunity for... Gabe Van Sickle, this is an
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: opportunity for, you know, I mean, I'm going to guess
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: you're going to see a bunch of different guys out there.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: They are probably going to roll guys on that offensive
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: line to a certain degree. This is a real opportunity
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: for those guys to show need to keep, you know,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: stay in the picture moving forward.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is a battle for the second team reps
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: as well. You know, Sam Greer, if he's back yet,
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: he could be factoring in somewhere at that point where
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: he's pushing somebody. We'll see some of these freshmen maybe
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: get into the game, but Also for Gabe Van Sickle,
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: if he plays really, really well, does this force the
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: coaches to think about, well, what if he stays in
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: the game? And at that point, it becomes a Philip Daniels,
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: Ian Moore decision again. And then where does Austin Searville
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: going back.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Home to left tackle?
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: And I don't think Gabe Van Sickle can do enough
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: in this game to warrant being a starter. but he
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: can do enough in this game to warrant a conversation
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: to where, do you get back to running a rotation
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: at right guard, trying to figure things out? I don't
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: think you can rotate right where if you're rotating the
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: Austin Searveld, you're kicking him out to the right tackle. Like,
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: and I don't, it almost feels like there's, unfortunately for Gabe,
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: can he do enough in this game to be like,
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: I should be playing more. And that, But he can't
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: because Austin Searveld, once Philip Daniels is back, you're not
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: going to rotate him with Austin Searveld. So it's just
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: an interesting situation where Gabe Van Sickle, if he is.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: One of the best five, what does that do for
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: everybody else, I guess?
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really an interesting question.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: One more thing we've got to talk about before we
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: wrap things up here.
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: Big time.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Tight ends.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Can we talk a little tight ends here? I'm interested
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: in tight ends. Absolutely.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Here in the year of the tight end, it would
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: be disgraceful if we didn't.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: The floor is yours.
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: Okay, so the tight ends we saw a whole lot
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: of action of down in Texas. Now, week one to
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: week two, against Ball State, Art Smith runs 26 zone
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: scheme runs, which we know he wants to get to,
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: two gap scheme runs.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: Doesn't go great.
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: Go down to Texas, he switches that. Fits to what
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: his players do better. He goes 15 zone scheme runs.
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: 11 gap now curious to what we see today but
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: the thing that makes me interested in why I'm bringing
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: it up is we saw him change from one game
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: to the next all right so last week we saw
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: a lot of the tight ends they played roughly as
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: a group just a bad bad game I think 42
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: snaps for Nate and then 25 and 25 ish for
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: Mason Williams and Bennett Christian Do we see that get
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: reduced or do we see them try to bang their
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: heads against the wall?
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: I'm like, we're going to improve this. I'm really looking
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: forward to seeing that.
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: I think this is nothing new. You get more people
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: signing on, hey, let's see more 11.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: But also I think we've talked about where do they
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: need to go three tight ends deep? Are Mason Williams
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: and Nate Roberts enough? And if you do need to
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: give one of those guys a rest, I think you're
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: going to get as much blocking out of Brandon Ennis
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: as you are that second and third tight end at times.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: And Brock Boyd. We've seen pretty good blocking out of
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Brock Boyd. We've seen pretty good blocking out of Chris
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Henry at times. It feels like you've got– if the
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: blocking out of the tight end position is not great,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: you've got wide receivers who can handle that.
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  Speaker 5: Plus, it just creates more space. Like, I know they
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  Speaker 5: want the tight ends in there to create gaps, which
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  Speaker 5: is fine. But the gaps are tighter than the space
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  Speaker 5: is wider. when they've got 11 personnel in my opinion.
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  Speaker 6: And that's that's just one way you're bringing in more
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  Speaker 6: bodies right and if you don't make the block on
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: those bodies well now you've defeated.
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  Speaker 1: The purpose yep All right, so now we're going to
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: talk recruiting. And this is obviously not, as I said
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: off the top of the show, not the single biggest
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: game of the season, but there are some potentially pretty
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: consequential visitors here today.
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  Speaker 4: You got Jordan Hall back in the house.
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  Speaker 6: Now, he is the running back out of Princeton High
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  Speaker 6: School who was committed to Miami of Ohio, comes in
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  Speaker 6: game number one, has a massive game against Archbishop Mueller
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  Speaker 6: that changed his life, quite honestly. One game changed his life.
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  Speaker 6: He gets interest from Ohio State, Penn State, Maryland, Cincinnati.
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  Speaker 6: His offers come rolling in. Didn't get his Ohio State
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: offer until he last visited against the Ball State game,
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  Speaker 6: the Ball State game.
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  Speaker 4: Game number one.
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  Speaker 6: And now he's back for an official visit today.
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  Speaker 4: So he is in the house.
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  Speaker 6: He has, after that Mueller game, continued to have a
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: great season, had four touchdowns against Colerain, I'm told it's pronounced,
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: not Colerain.
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  Speaker 4: Don't say that.
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  Speaker 2: Colerain, yes, yes.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm a Northeastern Ohioan. I didn't know that. I
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: got ripped for that one big.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, Cole rain. And, um, he's, uh, look, think.
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  Speaker 6: This to me is going to come down to Ohio
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  Speaker 6: state and Penn state. He really wants to get out
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  Speaker 6: to Penn state. Matt Campbell has been coming after him
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  Speaker 6: pretty hard and, uh, they want to make him part
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  Speaker 6: of their, you know, core as they move forward there
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  Speaker 6: for the rebuild over at Penn state.
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  Speaker 4: If you can call it a rebuild, I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: Um, but you could also potentially see things, you know,
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  Speaker 6: get shut down.
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be stunned, right? We know how good these
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: guys are in official visits.
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  Speaker 6: But Jordan Hall, a really quality back, and I think
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: ultimately he does end up as one, at least, of
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: maybe two backs in this 2027 class. Moving up to
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: the class of 28, you've got Luke Sahida, and he
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: is the tight end who just committed after the Ball
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  Speaker 6: State game out of Pennsylvania. Plays in Western Pennsylvania in
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: the WPIAL.
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  Speaker 4: He is 6'5, 240. He's played a all over the
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: offensive and defensive line.
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  Speaker 6: But this year now focused on tight end and a
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: couple of clips have come out of him scoring a touchdown,
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: running some routes. We didn't get to see much tight end.
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  Speaker 6: He really reminds me of Will Kazmarek. I think that's
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: the vision for him. And I'm just going to keep
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: that in my head, but he's a grown man already, right?
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  Speaker 4: He's got size.
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  Speaker 6: Like he's bigger than Mason Williams right now, you know? So,
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  Speaker 6: and this is a kid that's got a lot of
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: maturing to do.
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  Speaker 4: So that's exciting.
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  Speaker 6: And then you go to the number ones. The Buckeyes
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  Speaker 6: have two number ones in the country coming in at
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: their position, one in 28, one in 29. The first one,
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: Nasir Richardson, he is the number one cornerback in the
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: class of 2028 out of, holy.
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  Speaker 4: Crap, out of Jersey. He's out of Jersey, Newark, New Jersey.
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: And this is a guy that's really interested in Penn
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: State and Ohio State and has been, but now all
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: the big dogs with the big money guys are coming
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: and he's going to be visiting Oregon and Miami But
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: he's fond of Ohio State. He has visited twice before,
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: and he is, you know, we've seen Tim Walton pull
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: two number one cornerbacks in the country without the biggest
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: resource pile in the country to do so. And, you know,
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: I don't know, man. Things look pretty good there. So
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: I'm excited for that one to get rolling.
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  Speaker 3: And the good news, he's not from Ohio.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 6: And you got one more number one overall, or number
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: one at his position, and that's Austin Phillips.
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  Speaker 4: He's a linebacker. Out of Indiana. What's the name of
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: the town? Oh, I forget. Out of Indiana. Notre Dame
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: in Indiana, obviously heavily on him, trying to keep him
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: in state.
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  Speaker 2: Kendallville, Indiana, East.
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  Speaker 3: Noble High School.
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  Speaker 4: Noble High School.
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  Speaker 3: That's it.
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  Speaker 4: 6'2, 215 right now. Got plenty of time to grow.
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: This is a 2029 kid and already big, strong, physical guy.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Got the twitch. He's a striker. Sideline to sideline speed
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: pretty well. He's also a really good running back. So
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: James Laurinaitis, he's at the top of his board.
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: For 2029, and I believe this is his first trip
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: to a game, so it should be pretty eye-opening for him.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: All right, we can wrap it up with our score predictions.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Tony and I, after having the exact same score the
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: last two weeks, exact same score the last two weeks,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: huge disagreement this week. Tony, I went 63-3 for Ohio State.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: You went an entirely different direction.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: In fact, I did.
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  Speaker 5: I went 63-7. I think the defense will suffer and
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: give up seven extra points.
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  Speaker 2: It'll be four extra points.
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  Speaker 3: No, I did 63-7.
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  Speaker 5: They will give up a touchdown at some point, maybe
• 34:14
  Speaker 5: the first drive, maybe the last drive, somewhere in there.
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  Speaker 4: 49-7.
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  Speaker 6: I got a couple of bonehead turnovers that we can
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: all whine about at the end of the game and
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: give Ryan Day something to be irritated about, which is
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: always a good thing coming out of a game like this,
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: to have something to be irritated about.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: The perfect football game, beautiful sunny day, wonderful weather, fine fellowship,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: an easy win, and plenty to complain about. What could
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: be a better day on the college football calendar than that?
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: So we will be back after the game. We will
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: tell you what there is to complain about. And, you know,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: if something good happens, we'll probably talk about that as well.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: But that'll be all on our live post-game show. Also
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: have that Ryan Day postgame press conference live. Our postgame
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: show will start an hour after the game due to
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: gestures vaguely at Big Ten media rules. So we'll be
• 35:03
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• 35:06
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• 35:16
  Speaker 2: We go live after the game because we will have
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: lots to talk about.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: As the Buckeyes wrap up non-conference play and get ready
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: to take on Illinois next week. Thank you guys all
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: for joining us, and we will talk to you after
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: the game.