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- 0:05Speaker 1: Drama, Darling, drama, Darling drama, Darling.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Well, welcome in everybody, it's drama, Darling. Deanna and I
- 0:22Speaker 2: are here to talk about a little bit of a
- 0:24Speaker 2: love valley. Hi Deanna, Oh.
- 0:27Speaker 3: Hi, Amy Phillips. Wonderful to be here. It is just
- 0:30Speaker 3: a delight to see you. Listen, we want to talk
- 0:35Speaker 3: about the valley. You know, as little or as much
- 0:38Speaker 3: as we like it, We're going to talk about it.
- 0:41Speaker 3: And I actually did watch the after show, which I
- 0:44Speaker 3: got to say I enjoyed more than the actual show.
- 0:47Speaker 2: So interesting, you know, I like it. I like it.
- 0:51Speaker 2: I was really touched by the relationship and friendship that
- 0:57Speaker 2: Zach and Kristen have and back in Brittany. You know,
- 1:01Speaker 2: this is nice to see all these years later, how
- 1:04Speaker 2: deep it goes. We knew, but we didn't really know
- 1:07Speaker 2: the depths.
- 1:09Speaker 4: There's so many things about that party.
- 1:13Speaker 2: Yes, very like vander Pump rules as you know deeply,
- 1:20Speaker 2: and Ariana's place or aka shall I say Sandoval and
- 1:24Speaker 2: Kristen's place originally.
- 1:28Speaker 3: You know, I did, couldn't help but think of vander
- 1:31Speaker 3: Pump throughout this entire episode. Yeah, because we're never a
- 1:38Speaker 3: half even a half step up in terms of just glamour,
- 1:43Speaker 3: price brackets of things like we're just right there, which
- 1:47Speaker 3: is hard. You know, I'd like to have a little
- 1:51Speaker 3: bit of just something to drool over. And I am just.
- 1:57Speaker 2: You're in the wrong valley.
- 1:58Speaker 4: I'm in the wrong valley.
- 1:59Speaker 3: I I yeah, we're in physical everyone's bodies are are
- 2:05Speaker 3: have come on done. This is all stuff that should
- 2:07Speaker 3: be done, like off season and working.
- 2:10Speaker 2: God. Oh my wait, so are you saying that you
- 2:13Speaker 2: don't want to see bike over?
- 2:17Speaker 4: That is okay.
- 2:19Speaker 3: I think I could take one mommy makeover, but I
- 2:22Speaker 3: need to lose a knee and I need to I
- 2:26Speaker 3: need to lose the postpart. I just, I mean, I
- 2:28Speaker 3: get it all. I just need one physical like breakdown,
- 2:33Speaker 3: you know.
- 2:34Speaker 2: Right, we could lose one ailment for the sake of
- 2:38Speaker 2: gaining uh you know, a Lacey situation. Oh my god,
- 2:43Speaker 2: her itching at the pizza was so funny to me.
- 2:47Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I found it funny. I found it funny.
- 2:50Speaker 4: Well the pizza was, was it?
- 2:53Speaker 2: I mean it was Dominos? They always order Dominoes. I
- 2:55Speaker 2: don't know why. I don't know if there's a brand deal,
- 2:58Speaker 2: but I remember that from vander Rules. I remember it
- 3:02Speaker 2: being like Dominoes at every party, like over at Ariana
- 3:05Speaker 2: and Sandoval's place, over at James and what's her name?
- 3:11Speaker 3: James? And oh yeah, she has a new show, but
- 3:15Speaker 3: my husband's watching and I can't it's a dating show.
- 3:17Speaker 2: Have you know? I heard you over there? Allie, Alie?
- 3:21Speaker 2: How could I forget? Yeah, Allie's on it. It's like
- 3:24Speaker 2: love coming into love. Love is not blind, love is here,
- 3:28Speaker 2: love is love not on and love on a peninsula.
- 3:30Speaker 2: I don't know, but yeah, some rendition of one of those.
- 3:34Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, go for her, go for her?
- 3:37Speaker 4: Yes, sure? I mean you didn't know, God bless.
- 3:41Speaker 3: Okay, So Domino's is maybe branded, Okay, I fear it's not.
- 3:47Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing I do too, And I have
- 3:51Speaker 2: to tell you that there have been many pizza arguments
- 3:54Speaker 2: in my home. So Brett is like, he will, he'll
- 3:59Speaker 2: go for a deal. He will go for a deal
- 4:01Speaker 2: before he goes for you know, the quality. And I'm
- 4:05Speaker 2: just not on the same par as him when it
- 4:08Speaker 2: comes to that. So when he when Domino's hits his
- 4:11Speaker 2: lips as an option, I'm like no. And so what
- 4:15Speaker 2: ends up happening is if we do end up getting
- 4:18Speaker 2: that for whatever, whether it's money reasons or and he
- 4:22Speaker 2: wins the argument. He gets the wings, the chicken wings,
- 4:26Speaker 2: and then I'm fine, okay, because that's what I like,
- 4:29Speaker 2: the wings. And I'm like, you know what, I'll just
- 4:31Speaker 2: have the wings and like half a piece of pizza
- 4:34Speaker 2: and like we're fine. Matty doesn't seem to care as much.
- 4:37Speaker 4: No, it's for kids, like you get it for kids.
- 4:42Speaker 2: And husbands who clearly don't have as much of a
- 4:46Speaker 2: picky taste. When it comes to pizza.
- 4:49Speaker 4: Where is bred from Chicago?
- 4:51Speaker 2: No, he's out West.
- 4:52Speaker 3: Okay, all right? Then I thought, like, what sort of
- 4:56Speaker 3: Chicago human is?
- 4:58Speaker 2: Well, but he loves But here's the thing. Pizza is
- 5:01Speaker 2: like one of his favorite foods. So he loves deep dish,
- 5:04Speaker 2: he just loves. I think he loves any kind of pizza.
- 5:07Speaker 2: That's what it comes to you. It's like he loves
- 5:09Speaker 2: any kind of pizza and quite frankly, any kind of beer.
- 5:12Speaker 2: Like he'll just drink it. He'll eat it, and he
- 5:14Speaker 2: will drink it. When it comes to pizza and beer,
- 5:16Speaker 2: I am absolutely not that person. I want, you know,
- 5:20Speaker 2: I want a flat bread. I want it in a
- 5:23Speaker 2: stone oven. I want to choose my toppings. More specifically,
- 5:27Speaker 2: I would like more of a garlic spread or a
- 5:30Speaker 2: pesto spread instead of a tomato sauce. For the most part,
- 5:34Speaker 2: I am definitely not the customer that a Domino's wants.
- 5:40Speaker 2: So when Lacy saw that, I said, I feel you,
- 5:44Speaker 2: I hear you, And you know it's not for the parents,
- 5:47Speaker 2: like you said, it's for the kids.
- 5:49Speaker 4: Right, well, the whole party. I mean, can we just
- 5:52Speaker 4: deal with the party.
- 5:53Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get in over to Zach and Bengies.
- 5:57Speaker 3: Just having the runner of Zach, you know, in tears
- 6:02Speaker 3: over losing his Monster fridge.
- 6:08Speaker 2: That was so great when they got that phone call,
- 6:11Speaker 2: when Jasmine and they were like, oh god, that was
- 6:15Speaker 2: great television, great moment for Zach. And he genuinely loves
- 6:20Speaker 2: the fridge. He branded, He loves branded, loves branded decor.
- 6:27Speaker 2: I don't know. And guess what on the after show
- 6:30Speaker 2: I heard a little bit more about it. Oh, he
- 6:32Speaker 2: doesn't even drink Monster. He doesn't even drink it. And
- 6:38Speaker 2: he bought that with his old roommate. They split the
- 6:42Speaker 2: money to buy that. He said it was worth like
- 6:46Speaker 2: next to like six hundred to eight hundred dollars, and
- 6:49Speaker 2: they maybe they didn't buy it for that much, but
- 6:51Speaker 2: they did split it and it was a couple hundred
- 6:53Speaker 2: dollars each for sure. Huh that roommate thing went scorched earth. Yeah,
- 7:00Speaker 2: what in the world. Apparently he threw that sofa out
- 7:04Speaker 2: by the you know, by the trash, by the dumpster.
- 7:07Speaker 2: And not only that, but I think he like slit
- 7:09Speaker 2: it allegedly with an you know, with an exact o
- 7:13Speaker 2: knife or a box cutter, an exactly knife, exact, very precise,
- 7:21Speaker 2: very precize. Yeah, he's horrible.
- 7:32Speaker 3: He has a boyfriend, that's really serious. Why what's the
- 7:36Speaker 3: problem here? He wants to move in and the roommate
- 7:39Speaker 3: moved in with his boyfriend.
- 7:41Speaker 4: I don't under what did Zach do?
- 7:44Speaker 2: Well, okay, so that's where you went. And I thought,
- 7:47Speaker 2: well I did think what did Zach do? But like,
- 7:50Speaker 2: was he it? Was this person really a good friend
- 7:53Speaker 2: the whole time? Clearly if he were to unravel like
- 7:56Speaker 2: this in the end, clearly not.
- 7:58Speaker 3: I mean something one down to rip an offering from
- 8:04Speaker 3: Kristen right off the wall. TV offering to rip it
- 8:07Speaker 3: off the wall.
- 8:07Speaker 2: And be on your way. Oh yeah, the TV.
- 8:12Speaker 4: You know that's a that's something so okay, Amy.
- 8:16Speaker 3: So when they just having this party with I mean,
- 8:21Speaker 3: you know, not a wine opener, seats and it's not ready,
- 8:27Speaker 3: you know, And there's a lot of things that happens
- 8:29Speaker 3: on these shows that things are not ready for.
- 8:31Speaker 4: See Juried's book cover, you know, event, but.
- 8:39Speaker 3: It's fine, like you have a window and you have
- 8:41Speaker 3: to figure it out. I understand that, But it really
- 8:44Speaker 3: was not ready for any kind of warming.
- 8:48Speaker 2: Was that yes? But was that purposeful where they're like, yeah,
- 8:51Speaker 2: we need a lot of stuff, so come send your gifts,
- 8:54Speaker 2: you know. I don't know. I mean, was it because
- 8:57Speaker 2: they just didn't have enough events that they could procure
- 9:01Speaker 2: for this season that they were like, well, you're moving
- 9:03Speaker 2: in together, why not have a housewarming? Because he's now
- 9:06Speaker 2: finally moved in, your roommate has moved out, has caused
- 9:09Speaker 2: this drama. This can be a thing, and they went
- 9:12Speaker 2: for it.
- 9:13Speaker 3: I feel like the boyfriend what's his boyfriend's name, Zach's boyfriend,
- 9:17Speaker 3: Benji Benji. I feel like Benji wants to present a home,
- 9:22Speaker 3: you know, And so I feel bad for Benji.
- 9:29Speaker 2: For the team on this.
- 9:31Speaker 3: He's like, we'll do another party as soon as humanly
- 9:34Speaker 3: possible once we have furniture in here. But Zach, I
- 9:40Speaker 3: know it was so sweet and I felt it and
- 9:43Speaker 3: being in LA we have all.
- 9:44Speaker 4: Hit rock bottom.
- 9:46Speaker 3: Yeah, and friends have helped you out. But it was
- 9:51Speaker 3: an Oscar speech and I couldn't help but keep giggling,
- 9:55Speaker 3: like the way he presented it to the group, and
- 9:57Speaker 3: he was like doing it he would. It just made
- 10:01Speaker 3: me laugh to be doing it with like I have arrived,
- 10:04Speaker 3: but there's not a but.
- 10:05Speaker 2: There's folding and chairs. Yeah, like he's finally made it,
- 10:10Speaker 2: but there's nothing there.
- 10:11Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 10:12Speaker 2: That is I think the most endearing part about it
- 10:17Speaker 2: is that even if he was forced to do that,
- 10:20Speaker 2: he truly means it. Yes, And here's the difference between
- 10:23Speaker 2: him and someone like a door eat because let's just compare. Yeah, uh,
- 10:29Speaker 2: that he had money that he could pay Kristen back
- 10:34Speaker 2: a debt that she was a not expecting and b
- 10:39Speaker 2: didn't even consider that there was ever a debt and
- 10:42Speaker 2: felt that he's paid it off now. Wow, So he
- 10:45Speaker 2: could have clearly, whatever the mount was, use that to
- 10:50Speaker 2: head on over to Wayfair dot com wherever you go
- 10:55Speaker 2: and get a bunch of stuff, and he didn't. He
- 10:58Speaker 2: paid a debt and that is something that you don't
- 11:01Speaker 2: see every day. And it wasn't a debt collector, it
- 11:04Speaker 2: was a friend. So that just goes to show who
- 11:06Speaker 2: he is as a person and also who Kristen is. Yes,
- 11:11Speaker 2: she was like, you know, that's what I thought was
- 11:14Speaker 2: really great, is that she stood out as a person
- 11:16Speaker 2: who was like, here's the money, I'll never see it again.
- 11:19Speaker 2: You are my friend. Give I give with open arms,
- 11:23Speaker 2: expecting nothing.
- 11:24Speaker 3: Back, and didn't know that was part of her who
- 11:28Speaker 3: am I? You know, I didn't know.
- 11:30Speaker 2: No, I don't think any of us knew, because the
- 11:33Speaker 2: money issue between friends is the first thing to come
- 11:36Speaker 2: to the surface in any situation. And she could have
- 11:41Speaker 2: shown up at this housewarming party and if he had
- 11:43Speaker 2: a bunch of stuff, she could have said to somebody, well,
- 11:46Speaker 2: he didn't have to buy all the stuff. He owes
- 11:47Speaker 2: me money.
- 11:48Speaker 1: You know.
- 11:48Speaker 2: He could have been anything like that, and I bet
- 11:50Speaker 2: you she wouldn't have done that. But I think that
- 11:53Speaker 2: she thought that he paid it in full because he
- 11:56Speaker 2: was working for her as her social media this whole time.
- 12:01Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, you know it was.
- 12:06Speaker 3: And Kristen has had she's out of the she's out
- 12:11Speaker 3: of the weeds, you know. With Yeah, she's back on
- 12:15Speaker 3: some solid footing, which I'm happy for her to get
- 12:18Speaker 3: into the seat like this was also so great for
- 12:21Speaker 3: her because she's been a rough, rough road for her
- 12:25Speaker 3: to and now I feel like things are settling. And yeah,
- 12:30Speaker 3: she looked like an absolute queen, you know, and she's like,
- 12:33Speaker 3: I don't know what's happening. And she got up there
- 12:36Speaker 3: and like received, you know, was part of the Oscar
- 12:39Speaker 3: speech and it was just really lovely. She was the
- 12:43Speaker 3: Lifetime Achievement Award.
- 12:46Speaker 2: And Benji, like this couple is so perfect to see
- 12:51Speaker 2: two opposites like that. It happens all the time. Brett
- 12:54Speaker 2: and I are very opposite in many ways, and we
- 12:56Speaker 2: are so similar in others. But to see Benji and
- 12:59Speaker 2: his like very buttoned up blazer with piping, you know, yeah.
- 13:06Speaker 4: Oh my god.
- 13:07Speaker 2: I loved it.
- 13:09Speaker 1: Loved it.
- 13:10Speaker 2: And I also appreciated Lala being like I feel right
- 13:13Speaker 2: at home. I feel like I'm in an AAA meeting.
- 13:15Speaker 3: It was giving Lala's having a great season. It was
- 13:18Speaker 3: giving AA a big time. I mean truly, like seven
- 13:24Speaker 3: day old pizza, you know, have some lot of coffee
- 13:30Speaker 3: and a couple of cups, you know.
- 13:32Speaker 2: For and I trusted in all kinds of different ways
- 13:36Speaker 2: that and the other.
- 13:36Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone, it was a chooser and adventure truly.
- 13:41Speaker 4: Oh my yead.
- 13:42Speaker 2: So I learned that I didn't realize that Zach and
- 13:44Speaker 2: Jasmine were roommates for two years and the Janet lived
- 13:47Speaker 2: down the hall. Also, yeah, we.
- 13:50Speaker 3: Really learned that these friendships go actually really deep.
- 13:54Speaker 2: Yeah that's good for us, good for the show. Good
- 13:58Speaker 2: to lay that foundation totally. In the after show show, well,
- 14:05Speaker 2: they were talking about the monster fridge and Schwartz was like, oh,
- 14:10Speaker 2: it's an I soore, Bubba, Oh, oh, it's an sore.
- 14:13Speaker 2: Stop it you want me?
- 14:14Speaker 1: Did?
- 14:14Speaker 2: He said it was an eye sore? Oh my god,
- 14:18Speaker 2: what were you gonna say? Though, you were gonna say something?
- 14:21Speaker 3: Oh, I don't even know. I mean, I'd love to
- 14:23Speaker 3: talk about Schwartz. If we're making moves over there, let's.
- 14:25Speaker 2: Make a move over to Schwarz.
- 14:28Speaker 3: I need to just get this off my chest because
- 14:31Speaker 3: and maybe you've discussed it, so bear with.
- 14:34Speaker 4: Me if you have.
- 14:35Speaker 3: Have you discussed Schwartz's testimonial look his I have.
- 14:40Speaker 2: Not, And please remind me what it is because I
- 14:42Speaker 2: don't even know.
- 14:43Speaker 3: It is just I've never in the history of these
- 14:46Speaker 3: shows seen someone who has rolled out of bed literally
- 14:52Speaker 3: seconds before cameras go up, like he has, you know,
- 14:56Speaker 3: like like little kids wake up and they're just so sleepy,
- 14:59Speaker 3: Like he's so his eyes are just like there's crust
- 15:03Speaker 3: in them. They're like they're barely open. He's got that head. Yeah,
- 15:06Speaker 3: his face has like pillow prints on it, like it's
- 15:09Speaker 3: it is the most I just literally like I was
- 15:16Speaker 3: in bed and they were like, dun, dun, it's time
- 15:20Speaker 3: to shoot your testimonials, like, yeah.
- 15:23Speaker 2: He actually probably slept on that testimonial couch.
- 15:26Speaker 5: No.
- 15:26Speaker 2: I now I remember because I remember seeing his hair
- 15:28Speaker 2: and I was like, is that fresh, jel or is
- 15:31Speaker 2: it wet? Still?
- 15:33Speaker 3: It is so rough. Look, I mean it's just so bed.
- 15:37Speaker 3: It's just so rolled out of bed, sleep.
- 15:40Speaker 2: In the eye.
- 15:40Speaker 4: You know.
- 15:41Speaker 2: He is way too comfortable, you know. I mean he's
- 15:44Speaker 2: comfortable in reality TV, but this is a whole other level,
- 15:47Speaker 2: a level comfortable in your confessional.
- 15:51Speaker 3: Too comfortable in the confessionals, Like h get less comfortable.
- 15:56Speaker 2: Yeah, let's kind of kick it up a few notches.
- 16:00Speaker 2: Schwartz and Keanni Kana Kiannah. It's such a princess name.
- 16:05Speaker 2: It's such a Disney princess name Kiana.
- 16:08Speaker 4: I think.
- 16:09Speaker 2: Okay, Well, in the after show, he does say like
- 16:13Speaker 2: she he really hopes that she's he wants her to
- 16:17Speaker 2: be the one, like he hopes he doesn't mess it up,
- 16:19Speaker 2: which he's very excited about her, and he I don't
- 16:23Speaker 2: know if he wants to get married again. I don't
- 16:25Speaker 2: think that he necessarily wants to do that. And he
- 16:30Speaker 2: reflects on his wedding with Katie as being like really
- 16:34Speaker 2: the most idealistic situation he could have ever dreamed of,
- 16:38Speaker 2: because it was like, you know, I mean remember that
- 16:40Speaker 2: amazing wedding in the woods, and it was great. But
- 16:45Speaker 2: he he really it seems like he's really falling in
- 16:48Speaker 2: love with this gal and beautiful. Yeah, and also he
- 16:53Speaker 2: said that she does not like reality TV. She does,
- 16:56Speaker 2: she's not into it, which I thought was.
- 16:58Speaker 3: Really yeah, because you know, speaking of Ali, there was
- 17:07Speaker 3: murmurs that she sort of strategically placed herself in front
- 17:11Speaker 3: of our DJ in order to get on the show.
- 17:15Speaker 3: Oh and now seeing her have her on, yeah, I'm like, okay,
- 17:20Speaker 3: that's not that. But yeah, no, you just go okay, like, yeah,
- 17:27Speaker 3: we were we were hopping along to get where we
- 17:30Speaker 3: needed to go and it's fine.
- 17:32Speaker 2: By the way, I heard that James has a girlfriend
- 17:35Speaker 2: who was pregnant.
- 17:37Speaker 4: Scary.
- 17:37Speaker 2: Scary, Yeah, but it is Actually is.
- 17:42Speaker 4: It weird that we don't see James on here at all?
- 17:45Speaker 2: Or no, it's it's so strange. What's more, for me,
- 17:50Speaker 2: it's strange that I don't even think about him at all.
- 17:52Speaker 3: Right, that's strange. We seemed no, not till this moment.
- 17:57Speaker 3: Wing seems to have. My husband seems to have gotten
- 18:01Speaker 3: he's he's he keeps bringing up if he comes by
- 18:05Speaker 3: and I'm watching The Valley, the fact that Sheena and
- 18:09Speaker 3: Rock were bounced off the show. He seems to not
- 18:12Speaker 3: be able to get over it, Like I think he
- 18:14Speaker 3: is so surprised. Yes, and I think he's not wrong.
- 18:19Speaker 2: To He's absolutely right. And as a matter of fact,
- 18:22Speaker 2: Emily feels very strongly about it and brings them quite often.
- 18:26Speaker 2: And I forget too, and I agree, like because it's
- 18:29Speaker 2: the point is like we're looking at Schwartz, like Schwartz
- 18:32Speaker 2: is on the show, but like not Sheena and Brock,
- 18:35Speaker 2: which is so strange. It would be so much more tumultuous,
- 18:38Speaker 2: and I mean there would be a lot more drama.
- 18:41Speaker 2: That's for sure.
- 18:42Speaker 3: Why what does Emily's take is she feeling? I mean,
- 18:45Speaker 3: I'll go like, go, no, I mean, but she wants
- 18:48Speaker 3: them on the show. She wants she wants them, Yeah,
- 18:52Speaker 3: and does she know why they're not there?
- 18:54Speaker 2: Well? We I mean, from what I understand, I think
- 19:00Speaker 2: I thought that there was some sort of negotiating problem.
- 19:04Speaker 4: Like a like a Jill's Aaron moment.
- 19:06Speaker 2: I don't know if it was that, Okay, I don't
- 19:09Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if it was about money.
- 19:11Speaker 2: That's not the that's not the thing that I got.
- 19:13Speaker 2: I don't know. Why does anybody know why she's not
- 19:17Speaker 2: on it? She said? I believe she said no, I
- 19:19Speaker 2: don't know why. Maybe it was for Yeah, she because
- 19:22Speaker 2: of Lala.
- 19:24Speaker 3: Oh maybe Well listen, it feels like Lala is so
- 19:28Speaker 3: planted firmly in this group. Like last season she made
- 19:31Speaker 3: no sense to me. This season, I'm like, she's in,
- 19:35Speaker 3: she's powerful, she's delivering. I don't for a second question
- 19:40Speaker 3: her being there.
- 19:41Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, soon when we saw her in the background,
- 19:44Speaker 2: like she shouldn't even have come on as a friend
- 19:46Speaker 2: of But I I understand they wanted to have to
- 19:49Speaker 2: simmer in the back. Yeah, they get a prepared.
- 19:51Speaker 4: From us in yeah.
- 19:53Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was a dangerous thing to do because
- 19:55Speaker 2: we all had a pretty visceral thing reaction to, like
- 19:58Speaker 2: we don't want Katie or we don't want Shea, we
- 20:00Speaker 2: don't want La La, we don't want anybody over there.
- 20:03Speaker 2: They're doing fine on their own, let them be right,
- 20:06Speaker 2: But here we are and she's doing I mean, we
- 20:08Speaker 2: love her on the show.
- 20:09Speaker 3: Yeah, so she may be like paving a path for
- 20:13Speaker 3: wayward vander Pumps to make their way, you know.
- 20:18Speaker 2: Yeah, and who who would be the next wayward vander Pumps?
- 20:21Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Schwartz has come along, who brings just
- 20:26Speaker 2: a neutral a neutralism he drinks, he brings like.
- 20:30Speaker 4: Yes, oh yeah, he's a great he's I mean, he's this.
- 20:36Speaker 4: You can't hate the guy.
- 20:37Speaker 2: He's so sweet's you know, likable And it's nice because
- 20:41Speaker 2: you out to dinner and you've got Jesse and Danny
- 20:46Speaker 2: who are you just are They're just so most of
- 20:49Speaker 2: the time very unlikable. I do find Jesse likable sometimes
- 20:53Speaker 2: and and I do like watching him sometimes so, but Danny,
- 20:57Speaker 2: I've hit my limit with him. I'm done so with
- 21:01Speaker 2: Schwartz being at that dinner I was like, thank god
- 21:04Speaker 2: Schwartz is here. You know, that's when you appreciate it.
- 21:07Speaker 2: And speaking of that little night out, you know with
- 21:11Speaker 2: on the heels of Danny sneaking drinks and he's like, oh,
- 21:14Speaker 2: I've got a voiceover job tomorrow, so I got to
- 21:17Speaker 2: keep my voice good. And they're like, okay, so one
- 21:20Speaker 2: drink minimum, and he's like, ah, I'll have a you know,
- 21:23Speaker 2: double this and hit that. And everyone else is like
- 21:25Speaker 2: I'll have a light beer. So it's just weird, you.
- 21:28Speaker 4: Know, and I don't.
- 21:29Speaker 3: I mean, listen, at this point, this, this charad that
- 21:33Speaker 3: he only drinks on camera.
- 21:35Speaker 4: Is a lie.
- 21:36Speaker 2: Thank you, right, thank you. Yes, he's only drinking every
- 21:40Speaker 2: once in a while. And he says that, and he's
- 21:45Speaker 2: probably sneaking drinking from Nia at this point. That's what
- 21:50Speaker 2: I'm believing, okay, because she blindly is saying he never
- 21:54Speaker 2: he only drinks every once in a while. It's like,
- 21:56Speaker 2: right to your knowledge, because at this point I'm like, no,
- 21:59Speaker 2: he's way too comfortable because if he felt like he
- 22:03Speaker 2: was in a situation which he is where everyone's judging
- 22:07Speaker 2: him for the drinking, even still not just last season,
- 22:10Speaker 2: he wouldn't be drinking at all this season, but he's
- 22:12Speaker 2: actually in the background, like drinking white claw at the party.
- 22:18Speaker 3: And pouring whiskey. Like do you think there's like, buddy,
- 22:23Speaker 3: you're miked up with cameras. It's almost bizarre, you.
- 22:27Speaker 2: Know, speaking of like you know, we often refer to
- 22:31Speaker 2: like Robert Durst being miked up and then admitting to murdering.
- 22:37Speaker 2: It's he's doing it in plain sight. Does he think
- 22:39Speaker 2: he's being sneaky because he's he seems.
- 22:41Speaker 3: To because he's lying to people's faces and he's he's
- 22:45Speaker 3: not in the back, he's and he's shuffling off with
- 22:48Speaker 3: a claw, you.
- 22:50Speaker 2: Know, his sigh like the camera's pointing to it.
- 22:57Speaker 3: Yeah, the camera's there, so I mean, leaving claws.
- 23:04Speaker 4: In the gym.
- 23:07Speaker 3: It's tough, you know, it's not I feel he could also.
- 23:12Speaker 3: The thing that also hits me is that he could
- 23:15Speaker 3: walk into a party, and I don't think this would
- 23:17Speaker 3: be clock.
- 23:18Speaker 4: I think this would be fine. Walk into a party.
- 23:21Speaker 3: I'm gonna, you know, take one beer and sip at
- 23:25Speaker 3: the night, yeah, or one drink, and no one's gonna
- 23:29Speaker 3: be like you canna have one? Like I mean whatever,
- 23:31Speaker 3: you know, right, But it's like I'm not drinking at all.
- 23:35Speaker 3: And then we're cutting too sneaks here, sneaks, sneak.
- 23:39Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a sneaker.
- 23:41Speaker 4: He's a real sneaker.
- 23:44Speaker 3: And then having the editors like, you know, bump up
- 23:47Speaker 3: the volume on the gulps of the white claw in
- 23:50Speaker 3: the gym.
- 23:52Speaker 4: That's harsh.
- 23:53Speaker 2: That was so bad and like a burp.
- 23:57Speaker 4: Yeah, they got youa bud. You lah.
- 24:01Speaker 2: Those are not sound effects. Those are your real gulps,
- 24:05Speaker 2: the cartoon gulping.
- 24:08Speaker 3: Now do we think that producers knew he did a
- 24:10Speaker 3: white clon?
- 24:11Speaker 4: They were like Jasmine, when.
- 24:13Speaker 3: You go to check on Britt, see what's going on
- 24:15Speaker 3: in the gym, there might be a white claw, Like
- 24:18Speaker 3: she really stumbled upon it.
- 24:21Speaker 2: I don't know. She probably stumbled upon it and saw
- 24:23Speaker 2: how locked it just because everyone's so uber aware of it. Now, right,
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- 28:17Speaker 2: that little drink time when Jesse tells them that, like, yeah,
- 28:25Speaker 2: Brittany's co signing on like throwing you under the bus
- 28:29Speaker 2: and going after you. Because Danny's like, yeah, Jack's plotted
- 28:32Speaker 2: against me to go after me. And then Jesse's like, well,
- 28:35Speaker 2: you know who else did? And then he says Brittany.
- 28:38Speaker 2: And then he's now he's coming after Brittany because he's
- 28:40Speaker 2: saying she's a mean girl and is against him and
- 28:44Speaker 2: Lacey and all this stuff. So it looks like Jesse
- 28:47Speaker 2: is going for Brittany and so is Danny.
- 28:52Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean having Schwartz there to be like she
- 28:55Speaker 3: wouldn't her to fly. And I thought it was very
- 28:57Speaker 3: astute that you know Jack's going out. First of all,
- 29:00Speaker 3: seeing Jackson again was a jump scare and that throwback
- 29:04Speaker 3: I was like, oo, yeah, what a energy.
- 29:08Speaker 4: You know him saying.
- 29:14Speaker 3: If Jackson is going after Danny, then he's leaving her
- 29:17Speaker 3: alone and you have to pick your battles when you're
- 29:19Speaker 3: in that kind of toxic relationship. I thought like, wow,
- 29:21Speaker 3: that's very astute, And yeah, on the nose, it seems.
- 29:27Speaker 4: But like painting her as a mean girl is a stretch.
- 29:31Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got that wrong. Yeah, you know, I understood
- 29:35Speaker 2: why Brittany was upset last year about how she was
- 29:38Speaker 2: the only one that they were focusing on her and Jackson.
- 29:41Speaker 2: She was frustrated at that because me and Danny were
- 29:44Speaker 2: like hiding stuff. And I was frustrated with Brittany at
- 29:48Speaker 2: that time because I was like, look, no one can
- 29:50Speaker 2: compete with what you're going through, So just be patient
- 29:52Speaker 2: and waited out, you know, like stop trying to get
- 29:55Speaker 2: the cameras off of you because you're not going to
- 29:56Speaker 2: go anywhere what's going on. So just relax, you know,
- 30:01Speaker 2: I know you want to break and you want but
- 30:03Speaker 2: there it's going to be. It's going to come to
- 30:06Speaker 2: the surface on its own, which it did with no
- 30:09Speaker 2: not because of Brittany or anybody else, but because of
- 30:12Speaker 2: Danny's behavior. So this is this is where where we are.
- 30:17Speaker 2: But let's hop on over to the night out with
- 30:21Speaker 2: Danny and Nia with the baby.
- 30:23Speaker 3: Okay, first of all, I do want to say wife
- 30:25Speaker 3: and some where they were I screamed is literally a
- 30:29Speaker 3: one minute walk from here, and you know, one of
- 30:31Speaker 3: our new Glassow Park, new Ish, So it's in Glassal Park.
- 30:35Speaker 3: It's literally in Glassow Park.
- 30:37Speaker 2: It is.
- 30:39Speaker 4: One and a half minute walk from my house from
- 30:41Speaker 4: my place.
- 30:42Speaker 2: I'm shocked that they were there.
- 30:45Speaker 3: I know they were still on the east side. And
- 30:47Speaker 3: then Silver Lake at forty one hundred bar. I'm like, now,
- 30:50Speaker 3: what how did you allow to.
- 30:53Speaker 4: The east side.
- 30:54Speaker 2: Here's the thing, because there is nowhere to go up
- 30:57Speaker 2: here in Santa Clarita for a night out that you're
- 30:59Speaker 2: going to enjoy.
- 31:02Speaker 3: I can't believe they when they said did you take
- 31:05Speaker 3: him air? Did you fly helicopter in? I was like,
- 31:10Speaker 3: I said, Santa Clarina caught.
- 31:13Speaker 1: Astray, and.
- 31:17Speaker 2: We should on some level because it does sometimes depending
- 31:22Speaker 2: on traffic, you know, it just depends on traffic. But anyway, yeah,
- 31:26Speaker 2: you have to go somewhere else for dinner. You just
- 31:30Speaker 2: have to We hit up the Chilis all the time. Sure,
- 31:34Speaker 2: but you know at some point, yeah you can't. You're
- 31:38Speaker 2: over Chilid right right, You're gonna go to Lazy Dog.
- 31:42Speaker 2: You know, it's just there. The other night, a meeting,
- 31:45Speaker 2: like a PTA meeting. It's fine. You know, you're gonna
- 31:50Speaker 2: get what you get. You get you will never go
- 31:52Speaker 2: above a level of a restaurant that is like a
- 31:57Speaker 2: three star, a two point five.
- 32:00Speaker 4: It's hard.
- 32:01Speaker 2: Five, Yeah, that's hard.
- 32:03Speaker 4: You're a witty Yeah.
- 32:04Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know.
- 32:06Speaker 4: So's a challenge.
- 32:07Speaker 2: Yeah, it really really is. So I understand why they
- 32:10Speaker 2: went down to Glassel Park and they've got a lot
- 32:14Speaker 2: of driving going on. But I mean obviously they're going
- 32:16Speaker 2: to get, you know, cars to take them. You would
- 32:19Speaker 2: hope that is so cool. So you like that place.
- 32:22Speaker 3: It's really good and it's gotten, Yes, like I feel
- 32:25Speaker 3: it's a little pricey, I think for I don't know,
- 32:29Speaker 3: it's just a little pricey that I don't find my
- 32:32Speaker 3: way over there.
- 32:33Speaker 4: But they have a beautiful like wineless.
- 32:35Speaker 3: You can sit at the bar, I feel like sing
- 32:37Speaker 3: at the bar getting an appetizer M great, great ambiyonce,
- 32:42Speaker 3: or even sitting at the bar and getting.
- 32:44Speaker 4: One of their desserts great.
- 32:45Speaker 2: Nice.
- 32:46Speaker 3: It's not my go to restaurant, but it is a
- 32:50Speaker 3: lovely place to be.
- 32:52Speaker 2: Well, once you go back, maybe you can find the
- 32:55Speaker 2: chair and see if there's still some more baby to
- 32:58Speaker 2: get up on it. What is his problem? He is
- 33:03Speaker 2: blaming her because the baby spit up on him? The
- 33:06Speaker 2: look he gave her when that baby spit up on him,
- 33:09Speaker 2: and then he's like a gut on the chair. Nia.
- 33:12Speaker 4: I wanted to punch through the television.
- 33:15Speaker 2: I don't even know what to do with myself physically
- 33:18Speaker 2: having to watch this person. I know it is so.
- 33:22Speaker 4: She jumps up, I know, you know, yeah, I mean.
- 33:28Speaker 2: He wants to have more children and he's annoyed by
- 33:31Speaker 2: the ones that he actually has. He can't even handle
- 33:35Speaker 2: the ones that he has, and he wants more. Why
- 33:38Speaker 2: why would you want more? You don't even know how
- 33:40Speaker 2: to This is like the fourth baby and you don't
- 33:42Speaker 2: know how to bounce the baby. I am so confused.
- 33:46Speaker 4: Yeah, totally.
- 33:49Speaker 3: It does feel like a different perception than I had
- 33:54Speaker 3: of him completely, And I do feel like I have
- 33:59Speaker 3: to stand with Jazz and and look in myself too.
- 34:03Speaker 3: That first season I had a different understanding of him.
- 34:08Speaker 3: And so when she's feeling so frustrated that like Lala
- 34:13Speaker 3: is getting she's triggered for something has nothing to do
- 34:17Speaker 3: with her.
- 34:18Speaker 4: He didn't do anything to Lalla a thing.
- 34:22Speaker 3: It actually happened to Jasmine, her wife, and you know
- 34:26Speaker 3: the But I feel like I have more information about
- 34:30Speaker 3: him obviously now we all have seen so much more,
- 34:34Speaker 3: but it does do to I feel like everyone should
- 34:38Speaker 3: go back to Jasmine and be like, Okay, right now
- 34:42Speaker 3: we're really seeing the scope. And obviously your word was
- 34:46Speaker 3: always the word, but like now it's even so so
- 34:50Speaker 3: if we downplated at all, like message is so been received? Sorry, Yeah,
- 34:56Speaker 3: I think I feel for her because it's very frustrating.
- 35:02Speaker 2: We didn't have the information.
- 35:04Speaker 4: The audience didn't have as much information, right. I don't
- 35:08Speaker 4: know about.
- 35:08Speaker 3: The friends, like I think they had a decent amount
- 35:12Speaker 3: of information, but now they really have seen it.
- 35:15Speaker 2: But even Kristin and Luke who hang out with him
- 35:19Speaker 2: all the time, they don't seem to see this stuff,
- 35:23Speaker 2: which is strange because the restaurant was like such a
- 35:27Speaker 2: small moment in time where he had a little baby
- 35:30Speaker 2: fit that you would think that they would see them
- 35:34Speaker 2: a lot, right, have those moments. Yeah, it's weird and
- 35:39Speaker 2: it's not a press behavior, no, And I would think
- 35:42Speaker 2: that Christian would be like, what's your problem?
- 35:44Speaker 5: Right?
- 35:44Speaker 3: Well, that may be where you know they oh god, yeah,
- 35:49Speaker 3: I know, because we saw that cameras are on them.
- 35:52Speaker 4: He's having a rough season.
- 35:54Speaker 3: People are calling him out and he's still being a
- 35:58Speaker 3: machiese Mo. It's giving like Mormon polygamy sort of that
- 36:05Speaker 3: man who is running the roost.
- 36:09Speaker 2: Well, that's interesting that you say that, because he does.
- 36:11Speaker 2: They don't talk about their spiritual or religious life on camera,
- 36:16Speaker 2: but I from what I understand, they do. They are
- 36:19Speaker 2: very active in a church. And I'm correct. I think
- 36:23Speaker 2: I saw this on social media that his father was
- 36:27Speaker 2: the pastor of a church.
- 36:29Speaker 4: Yeah, that feels he looks like a kid. He looks
- 36:32Speaker 4: like the pastor's kid.
- 36:33Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, so I think that he does have a structure.
- 36:37Speaker 2: I think he's coming from that type of structure and
- 36:39Speaker 2: it just wasn't on our radar at all. Yeah, so
- 36:44Speaker 2: it does make sense. And Kristen seems to really and Luke,
- 36:49Speaker 2: they seem to really like them and look up to them.
- 36:51Speaker 2: I mean that that post that somebody pointed out right Jasmin. Yeah,
- 36:57Speaker 2: so yeah, they're seeing something different.
- 37:02Speaker 3: Well, but that also makes sense in their own They're
- 37:05Speaker 3: probably going to their house. They're in control of everything
- 37:11Speaker 3: they do. She's amazing, amazing, and she's a supermom and
- 37:16Speaker 3: a superwoman and like.
- 37:19Speaker 4: Someone to admire and.
- 37:21Speaker 3: So they're yeah, and they feel so new and so
- 37:25Speaker 3: out of their depth, you know, and Kristen is has
- 37:29Speaker 3: a bit of an arrested development to her.
- 37:31Speaker 4: Its fair to say safe space.
- 37:34Speaker 3: So you know, I can see why they look at
- 37:39Speaker 3: them and see like they are, you know, they're making
- 37:43Speaker 3: it all happen with all these kids, and they're she
- 37:46Speaker 3: is doing a lot.
- 37:47Speaker 4: Of the heavy lifting, right.
- 37:49Speaker 3: I think she's filling in so many blanks that it
- 37:53Speaker 3: feels like, oh, they're a great couple. But it's really
- 37:57Speaker 3: Mia doing like a lot of work. Yeah, sorry, doing
- 38:01Speaker 3: so much work? Yeah yeah, yeh yeah, yeah, right, it's tricky.
- 38:05Speaker 3: It is so all right anything else about Danny and
- 38:10Speaker 3: Nia before we I mean, see here's the thing about Nia.
- 38:14Speaker 3: But when we say what is she know? What doesn't
- 38:17Speaker 3: she know? Is he drinking at home? When he said
- 38:23Speaker 3: at the party he was just going to have one dren,
- 38:26Speaker 3: he was going somewhere, he's getting to something or he
- 38:29Speaker 3: was going to have an ice smeirof ice or something.
- 38:32Speaker 3: He was going to have an ice drink, which is alcohol.
- 38:37Speaker 3: You see it on her face. She doesn't want him
- 38:41Speaker 3: to have it. She knows what that means.
- 38:43Speaker 2: Yeah, oh wow, good point. That's a really good point.
- 38:47Speaker 3: So she's either just and it is hard when everyone
- 38:53Speaker 3: else is drinking to be like, why am I getting
- 38:54Speaker 3: singled out?
- 38:55Speaker 2: Yes?
- 38:56Speaker 3: And I don't think they've been able to fully articulate
- 39:00Speaker 3: as a team. You know, the issue is not that
- 39:05Speaker 3: he's drinking. That's actually not the issue. Not the issue
- 39:10Speaker 3: everyone's drinking. The issue is and we can't like reduce
- 39:15Speaker 3: it to you know, dark dark O, Danny Danny Darko, right,
- 39:21Speaker 3: because that's like making a joke of it, And it's like, no,
- 39:25Speaker 3: you are your misogynists comes out when you drink and
- 39:32Speaker 3: you're an asshole.
- 39:33Speaker 2: Yeah, period, and does a straight up mean person.
- 39:37Speaker 3: Yeah, And women are getting the hits, yes, not really
- 39:41Speaker 3: the men. No, you're right, it's misogynist so or misogynistics
- 39:48Speaker 3: so like.
- 39:49Speaker 2: And Jesse's like if the guy wants to drink every
- 39:52Speaker 2: once in a while because he's not feeling the burn
- 39:55Speaker 2: from it.
- 39:56Speaker 3: You and he doesn't want people dictating who can drink
- 39:59Speaker 3: and who's drinking too much because he's drinking, you.
- 40:02Speaker 4: Know, that's the thing. But when you're not, it's.
- 40:04Speaker 2: Yeah, right, But we don't have a problem with Jesse
- 40:06Speaker 2: drinking either. He's just because he's consistently most of the
- 40:10Speaker 2: time kind of a jerk. You know, right, when he's
- 40:13Speaker 2: not drinking and then when he is drinking, So that's
- 40:16Speaker 2: not the problem.
- 40:18Speaker 3: We also haven't seen him go like blotto like we
- 40:20Speaker 3: did when he had that but when he had that
- 40:23Speaker 3: house that he rented and everyone showed up.
- 40:25Speaker 4: He was stewed. He holds it very differently.
- 40:29Speaker 2: Oh right, yeah, I do remember that. Yeah, and so
- 40:32Speaker 2: does like Brittany. Yeah, Kristen, you know, yeah, he's their
- 40:35Speaker 2: party people, and we should expect mapping less.
- 40:39Speaker 3: And it's not the drinking, it's what is revealed, like
- 40:45Speaker 3: so you know that they should almost shut down. It's
- 40:48Speaker 3: like has nothing to do with the drinking. Well it does,
- 40:50Speaker 3: but it's not what our problem is, right, It's a result,
- 40:54Speaker 3: Like the result of the drinking is what our problem is.
- 40:57Speaker 2: What's interesting is that he didn't expect or anticipate any
- 41:01Speaker 2: of this coming on this show. I'm sure that's the thing.
- 41:04Speaker 4: Things he's perfect because they shed.
- 41:07Speaker 2: Right and so like that's that's what's so wild about
- 41:10Speaker 2: it and why reality television in this situation works so well.
- 41:15Speaker 2: And when people are like it's fake, it's fake, it's not.
- 41:18Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you can I can tell you a
- 41:20Speaker 2: million fake things that happen on this episode. But it
- 41:23Speaker 2: doesn't even matter the setups or the conversation starters or
- 41:26Speaker 2: the you know, the bullet points. Yeah, that's all put
- 41:30Speaker 2: together and produce great. But the point is is that
- 41:33Speaker 2: you get these huge bombs of reality, which is their
- 41:37Speaker 2: lives being exposed for who they really are, and then
- 41:41Speaker 2: we see it and I'm wondering why they even came
- 41:44Speaker 2: back to the show because because all their dirty laundry
- 41:47Speaker 2: is out there for a second season, it's not better.
- 41:50Speaker 2: It's worse. Actually for Danny and Nia, it's worse. So
- 41:53Speaker 2: how are they going to come back from this? Are
- 41:55Speaker 2: they just going to like why would they even stay
- 41:57Speaker 2: on it if they're that protective of their rep mutation
- 42:01Speaker 2: and who they are when they're trying to hide. That's
- 42:04Speaker 2: what kind of is the most interesting part to me.
- 42:06Speaker 2: He's like, are you going to come back next season
- 42:09Speaker 2: after this?
- 42:10Speaker 4: I think they are?
- 42:11Speaker 3: And why I say that, Well, I heard they were
- 42:14Speaker 3: doing some sort of off camera thing. I don't know
- 42:17Speaker 3: what it was, like additional footage of some kind, maybe
- 42:21Speaker 3: social media. And he went to say something and she
- 42:26Speaker 3: was like, no, no, no, don't say that. They'll take money
- 42:28Speaker 3: away from us, because like, if you say something against
- 42:33Speaker 3: the show or reveal something Bravo like doxy.
- 42:37Speaker 2: Oh they penalize you. Oh interesting, right, So.
- 42:40Speaker 3: She was like, no, no, no, save her money. So
- 42:43Speaker 3: I think that they need the show.
- 42:46Speaker 2: For money, financial reasons, Okay.
- 42:48Speaker 3: And I really believe that Nia specifically believes that she
- 42:55Speaker 3: can control this.
- 42:58Speaker 2: You know.
- 42:59Speaker 3: I think she has been in her life and it's
- 43:02Speaker 3: worked until cameras and mics are on, that she can
- 43:08Speaker 3: be enough and be perfect enough to you know, look
- 43:13Speaker 3: over and manage him. You know, she managed him way
- 43:17Speaker 3: heavy in the beginning of the season. Beginning of the show,
- 43:20Speaker 3: like for you remember she was like, yeah, and we
- 43:22Speaker 3: didn't quite know that she can be coming with me.
- 43:26Speaker 4: Air traffic controlling.
- 43:31Speaker 2: And we're walking, we're walking and we're stopping. Put your
- 43:35Speaker 2: headphones are on, buckle up. There are two exits and
- 43:39Speaker 2: we're just the exits that either side of the plane. Yes,
- 43:42Speaker 2: you're so right, And that's what the cast members were
- 43:45Speaker 2: seeing and why the very mad about it Jasmine and Brittany. Yeah. Fair,
- 43:51Speaker 2: But now you know, and I think so so that
- 43:53Speaker 2: the bottom line is what you're saying, and I think
- 43:54Speaker 2: you're right, which is that even if the wheels are
- 43:58Speaker 2: coming off a little bit, and there are being shown
- 44:01Speaker 2: they're staying because for financial reasons, and.
- 44:04Speaker 4: I think they feel they're Okay, yeah, I think.
- 44:08Speaker 2: Well, you know, and I did appreciate that they've shared
- 44:12Speaker 2: Nia shared her laundry list of support, which is she's
- 44:17Speaker 2: in therapy, he's in therapy, they're in marriage counseling a lot,
- 44:21Speaker 2: and he has a wellness coach. But I don't think
- 44:23Speaker 2: that that matters.
- 44:24Speaker 4: That's to the side. That's so.
- 44:28Speaker 2: Yeah, But to add to the list, I think that
- 44:30Speaker 2: that's what then I'm the list that's not.
- 44:35Speaker 3: We have a membership, you know, we have a we
- 44:39Speaker 3: get our curing pods direct once a month.
- 44:44Speaker 2: On Tribe for our air purified filters. Okay, so lots
- 44:49Speaker 2: of together, yeah, lots of support on auto pay, thank
- 44:53Speaker 2: you so much. Yes. So I do apprec that because
- 45:00Speaker 2: it makes me feel a little bit more secure that
- 45:03Speaker 2: Nia does have some support in terms of therapy and
- 45:06Speaker 2: marriage counseling. I think it's great. So at least they're
- 45:09Speaker 2: working at it. And I know that he's put out
- 45:10Speaker 2: a lot of apologies from the beginning, and so from
- 45:15Speaker 2: this show, you know, like he did apologize to his
- 45:18Speaker 2: wife publicly, and he realizes that he was a jerk,
- 45:22Speaker 2: and now we have to ride out this season, you know,
- 45:25Speaker 2: knowing that he's been a complete and utter just trash
- 45:30Speaker 2: person all season. And now I'm curious to see if
- 45:34Speaker 2: they do come back. Are we working it out? Are
- 45:38Speaker 2: we digging deep? Are we going to treat our wives
- 45:40Speaker 2: with respect?
- 45:42Speaker 4: He doesn't have that in him, But if he, I mean,
- 45:47Speaker 4: how would.
- 45:47Speaker 3: He do that?
- 45:48Speaker 2: Well, you can evolve and go to therapy and change,
- 45:52Speaker 2: and I think a lot of people who are willing
- 45:54Speaker 2: to see themselves on camera that does change your life.
- 45:57Speaker 2: You know. There have been a lot of couples that
- 45:59Speaker 2: have come through reality television when they should up getting
- 46:02Speaker 2: divorced and they're like, we see where the cracks were.
- 46:04Speaker 2: But I'm not saying that they all see it and
- 46:07Speaker 2: have the ability to or choose to change. Most people
- 46:10Speaker 2: see it and then they walk away from it, or
- 46:12Speaker 2: they just take the hits and then they keep going.
- 46:15Speaker 2: The question is is he going to be open to
- 46:17Speaker 2: seeing what's going on?
- 46:21Speaker 3: You have an issue that you and your wife need
- 46:24Speaker 3: to deal with, and it sounds like you have things
- 46:26Speaker 3: in place.
- 46:27Speaker 2: But are you dealing with them? We don't right, right, right, right, right?
- 46:30Speaker 4: So anyway.
- 46:30Speaker 3: I just it's it double sucks for Jasmine because like
- 46:36Speaker 3: it gets put on her again somehow, you know what
- 46:40Speaker 3: I mean?
- 46:40Speaker 2: I do, yes, Yeah, I agree with that. This episode
- 46:45Speaker 2: with Jasmine calling out Zach and last week Kristen by
- 46:50Speaker 2: saying like, you've been very vocal about other people and
- 46:54Speaker 2: sticking up for them. Why didn't you do that for me?
- 46:56Speaker 2: Why didn't you raise your hand? Why didn't you know?
- 46:59Speaker 2: I think it is such a good point to be
- 47:02Speaker 2: in right now, because we've had time to let this
- 47:05Speaker 2: simmer and to understand and for events to take place
- 47:09Speaker 2: so that she can say, hey, by the way, you know,
- 47:11Speaker 2: before we move on to the next let's just recognize
- 47:15Speaker 2: that this originally was was my problem with Daniel, you know, yeah.
- 47:20Speaker 3: That it all got and then and j and I
- 47:22Speaker 3: saw it going over to Janet and Jason and being like, actually,
- 47:25Speaker 3: thank you, you know, because we don't like the delivery
- 47:29Speaker 3: system of Janet. She's not wrong, she wasn't wrong, right,
- 47:35Speaker 3: We just don't like the delivery system. No, you know,
- 47:38Speaker 3: it's harsh, it's just uh, but she wasn't wrong. No,
- 47:42Speaker 3: And it's clear clearer now, way clearer.
- 47:46Speaker 2: Yes, time does tell the truth. You know, and that's
- 47:51Speaker 2: the thing. Sometimes you have to wait yep, and so
- 47:54Speaker 2: hard it is. It is hard. I want to mention
- 47:59Speaker 2: because I didn't talk about this on last week's episode,
- 48:01Speaker 2: but Jesse and Michelle and they're like divorce papers and
- 48:07Speaker 2: when they met, and the discovery that he took out
- 48:11Speaker 2: this loan during COVID and now she's going to take
- 48:16Speaker 2: the hit for it and pay half of that just
- 48:18Speaker 2: to get divorced and he doesn't have money to pay
- 48:23Speaker 2: for Isabella's insurance two hundred dollars and what this is
- 48:29Speaker 2: like mind blowing and I'm like, wow, we're just sitting
- 48:32Speaker 2: here watching this and like this is the undercurrent of
- 48:35Speaker 2: what's going on with him in that he took out
- 48:39Speaker 2: this loan and didn't tell her is horrified. Three hundred
- 48:43Speaker 2: thousand dollars and like where did that money go to?
- 48:48Speaker 2: Shoes to loafers?
- 48:50Speaker 4: I mean, where is it going?
- 48:53Speaker 2: Chateael Marmal?
- 48:54Speaker 4: What is going on at that chateau?
- 48:58Speaker 2: Like what.
- 49:00Speaker 3: Toe those two and that chatateau? But truly, Jesse, you're
- 49:06Speaker 3: also on a television show and I have to imagine
- 49:08Speaker 3: you get paid something, although I guess I don't know
- 49:11Speaker 3: because like it doesn't seem like anyone is flush.
- 49:14Speaker 2: You know, right, they're making up for lost times, like.
- 49:18Speaker 3: Yeah, stuff back back pay. But it's wild and I
- 49:24Speaker 3: think I've also was just this this idea of Jesse
- 49:28Speaker 3: and Michelle like in their in their golden days Iseah,
- 49:31Speaker 3: mysterious too, but I I'm trying to imagine it, you know, And.
- 49:36Speaker 2: I understand it took a little time, but that when
- 49:40Speaker 2: they met and she had the papers, He's like, well,
- 49:42Speaker 2: we don't even have papers assigned. She's like, actually I
- 49:44Speaker 2: have them. I was like, WHOA, good, here we go. Yeah,
- 49:50Speaker 2: and he's like, well, I'll take them. He had no
- 49:53Speaker 2: choice because he's on camera because she is finally agreed
- 49:57Speaker 2: to pay half, and that's the only reason why she's
- 50:00Speaker 2: is going to present him with the papers. He never
- 50:04Speaker 2: thought that she would do that, I'm sure, which is
- 50:06Speaker 2: why he Now we know what he was referencing, because
- 50:08Speaker 2: he was like, we have an agreement. I sent you
- 50:10Speaker 2: an agreement. It's like, oh, now we know that agreement
- 50:14Speaker 2: was you asking her to pay for one hundred and
- 50:17Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars of your debt.
- 50:19Speaker 3: Secret debt, secret debt within your marriage, and she's willing
- 50:24Speaker 3: to take that hit Oh my god. She is so yeah,
- 50:28Speaker 3: very nice to him. I mean they're sitting together. I mean,
- 50:31Speaker 3: she's she just wants out that she wants she just
- 50:34Speaker 3: wants out, and she wants freedom and she doesn't care.
- 50:38Speaker 2: At what costs. Now, her crying about, you know, thinking
- 50:42Speaker 2: and really reminiscing about what they had was very mature,
- 50:48Speaker 2: emotionally mature of her. And it's going to be great
- 50:50Speaker 2: for her to move on because she's feeling all of
- 50:52Speaker 2: that and grieving that, and then she's going to have
- 50:56Speaker 2: a very healthy future. But it was kind of sad
- 51:00Speaker 2: to watch that. I'm sure the way that she saw it,
- 51:02Speaker 2: what really was very fairy tale according to what she experienced,
- 51:06Speaker 2: and that they were working together and they really they
- 51:09Speaker 2: had a child, and they just were experiencing all these
- 51:11Speaker 2: wonderful things together and it was so good. I don't
- 51:14Speaker 2: think that she ever thought that he would really it
- 51:17Speaker 2: sounded like he really turned or she just never knew
- 51:20Speaker 2: the person that he was, and the person that he
- 51:22Speaker 2: was didn't really come out until a few years later. Yeah,
- 51:26Speaker 2: and then she's got so ugly.
- 51:28Speaker 3: I mean, I think her saying to this Lacey, who
- 51:31Speaker 3: I can't make heads or tails, so I can't tell
- 51:34Speaker 3: if it's I don't understand the look, which I think
- 51:37Speaker 3: it may be just stopping me in my tracks, my
- 51:39Speaker 3: true yeah, full disclosure. You know, I just can't understand.
- 51:43Speaker 3: I'm confused.
- 51:44Speaker 2: I can't get past that either.
- 51:46Speaker 4: I'm stick.
- 51:47Speaker 2: It looks like one of Alicia's brats dolls from Rhode Island.
- 51:50Speaker 2: You know, it's tough.
- 51:51Speaker 3: It's just I don't know what I I do, not
- 51:55Speaker 3: have the lay of the land when.
- 51:57Speaker 2: I when I take her in, so you can't go
- 51:59Speaker 2: beyond that, knowe, like what's behind the person the facade.
- 52:03Speaker 4: They try to just listen.
- 52:04Speaker 3: I try, and I try to get closer to understanding,
- 52:08Speaker 3: but it's hard. But Michelle's you know, she's getting real cut.
- 52:14Speaker 3: See you paid too much. She's getting should throw you
- 52:16Speaker 3: a party, divorced party at you?
- 52:18Speaker 4: How much you're in Okay, get cute.
- 52:22Speaker 3: But then when Michelle's like, y'll see, like you can
- 52:25Speaker 3: be cute right now. But he only has you around
- 52:29Speaker 3: because you have a lot of money. And I think
- 52:33Speaker 3: that I tend to believe, based on not much that
- 52:40Speaker 3: Jesse is a jiggool.
- 52:42Speaker 2: Absolutely okay, he's a grifter, yeah, and it's shocking that
- 52:48Speaker 2: he even married Michelle in the first place, and that
- 52:52Speaker 2: they had kind of a burgeoning real estate right career
- 52:57Speaker 2: together and that it had some promise. So it is
- 53:03Speaker 2: kind of surprising that he did start off not that,
- 53:07Speaker 2: but I think underneath it all he is and so
- 53:11Speaker 2: now he's become who he always was and will be.
- 53:16Speaker 2: On the after show, Michelle said that it was interesting
- 53:21Speaker 2: how they kind of like edited this. They went back
- 53:23Speaker 2: to back. So she says he can't be alone. He
- 53:27Speaker 2: will absolutely get married again. He will not be able
- 53:30Speaker 2: to be without somebody, and then it would cut to
- 53:33Speaker 2: him in the after show being like, I am very independent,
- 53:36Speaker 2: I am great on my own. I just like being
- 53:40Speaker 2: with Isabella and I can just do that for the
- 53:43Speaker 2: rest of my life. Cut to her saying when we
- 53:46Speaker 2: were separated, he got in touch with every single one
- 53:51Speaker 2: of the women that he was ever connected with, ex girlfriends,
- 53:55Speaker 2: women that he dated, women that he was friends with,
- 53:58Speaker 2: women at the office, and the only one that's stuck
- 54:02Speaker 2: was Lacey. And she has money and that's why he
- 54:05Speaker 2: will stay with her. That's what she said on the
- 54:07Speaker 2: after show, and then cut to him like, you know,
- 54:11Speaker 2: Lacey and I have a great thing going. We both
- 54:13Speaker 2: have young girls who are really good friends. And you know,
- 54:17Speaker 2: it was just all him saying all the opposite stuff
- 54:20Speaker 2: that you would imagine really funny.
- 54:22Speaker 3: I know, when Jesse, that's amazing. Amy, thank you Michelle
- 54:27Speaker 3: for the clarity. You know that that call around that
- 54:32Speaker 3: opened the rolodex and give her a spin and try
- 54:34Speaker 3: to find someone to land on is really good.
- 54:39Speaker 2: She's like, I know all this and I didn't doubt her.
- 54:42Speaker 2: She's like, I know it all.
- 54:43Speaker 3: Never doubt her. I never doubt Michelle. You know, I
- 54:46Speaker 3: think you're a very pightforward person. Yeah, you know, I
- 54:50Speaker 3: don't you know, I don't doubt her. I actually like
- 54:55Speaker 3: Michelle on the show. You know, for whatever it's worth,
- 54:59Speaker 3: j sees smile is the most chilling thing. When he's
- 55:04Speaker 3: at ease, you know, and the face is at rest,
- 55:07Speaker 3: it's fine, but whenever he smiles, I get chills up
- 55:13Speaker 3: and down my spline. I'm just like, it's so unnatural
- 55:19Speaker 3: and creepy. Just think about that next time you see it. Okay, thanks,
- 55:26Speaker 3: you are welcome.
- 55:27Speaker 2: Note to sell. So let's talk about Jason and how
- 55:33Speaker 2: he has to have his leg locked for five weeks.
- 55:37Speaker 2: And on the after show, Janet was saying like how
- 55:41Speaker 2: it really helped her reflect on Brittany and Michelle being
- 55:45Speaker 2: single moms because she had to pick up, you know,
- 55:47Speaker 2: double the work. And she was like, you know, and
- 55:50Speaker 2: I feel that. I get that. I thought it was nice.
- 55:53Speaker 2: She's like, I even I felt like I failed, you know,
- 55:55Speaker 2: I had to do She's like, I never took the
- 55:57Speaker 2: trash out, you know. And Jason, you know, does a
- 56:01Speaker 2: tremendous amount of work, and so for them to like
- 56:03Speaker 2: her to have to do everything that has got to
- 56:05Speaker 2: be hard. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure we've all been
- 56:08Speaker 2: in that situation before, but it sucks. It really does.
- 56:12Speaker 4: It's a nice eye opener to what like single moms
- 56:15Speaker 4: go through.
- 56:16Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you have a partner, what they do
- 56:18Speaker 2: to contribute, it's nice to see, Oh they do.
- 56:21Speaker 4: There, I never take it for them.
- 56:22Speaker 2: Then I came, yeah, yeah, totally, they're doing stuff. They're
- 56:28Speaker 2: doing stuff, Luke. I just want to give a shout
- 56:31Speaker 2: out to his T shirt. In the beginning, I believe
- 56:33Speaker 2: it was a McBee Farm T shirt from like the Mcbee's,
- 56:37Speaker 2: you know, the reality. Yeah, so I think that's what
- 56:40Speaker 2: it was. So I was really enjoying that. Oh and
- 56:44Speaker 2: jumping back to Jesse, Jesse and Lacey, and we saw
- 56:49Speaker 2: a scene with her brushing Isabella's hair and that was like, whoa, oh,
- 56:54Speaker 2: this is where we are. Oh my god, and like,
- 56:57Speaker 2: now Michelle has to see this on camera, it's hard.
- 57:00Speaker 3: I think she's going to be okay though, Michelle is.
- 57:04Speaker 3: I think Michelle May is here okay. And I think
- 57:08Speaker 3: that now that she's got those papers signed, she can
- 57:10Speaker 3: deal with anything, you know.
- 57:13Speaker 2: And it seems like Lacey's a very good mom. She
- 57:16Speaker 2: seems she was very sweet as we saw on camera.
- 57:18Speaker 2: I don't like, I don't see any red flags when
- 57:21Speaker 2: it comes to that. I at this point, yeah, I
- 57:24Speaker 2: don't know what I see, but yeah, I hear you.
- 57:27Speaker 4: I'm having.
- 57:29Speaker 1: All right.
- 57:30Speaker 2: We have to talk about how Brandon did not pick
- 57:34Speaker 2: up Britney's pain medication and also wanted to get paid
- 57:38Speaker 2: for his time to take care of her. And by
- 57:42Speaker 2: the way, on the after show, I learned he never
- 57:44Speaker 2: even ended up picking up the medication. Jasmine had it
- 57:48Speaker 2: sent to her house, obviously picked up by Uber or
- 57:50Speaker 2: something delivered. Jasmine texted Brittany a couple days later saying
- 57:55Speaker 2: did you get this? And she's like, yeah, I did.
- 57:58Speaker 2: Brandon to credit for it. He'd never even picked it up.
- 58:03Speaker 3: Oh what a piece of shit. So you do what
- 58:09Speaker 3: like throw him out? He's nothing.
- 58:12Speaker 2: So I don't think they're to gather anymore. But god,
- 58:15Speaker 2: thank god, that was awful. That's like somebody who just
- 58:18Speaker 2: does not know how to do anything and you're a
- 58:22Speaker 2: long han ride.
- 58:23Speaker 3: Surely he didn't want to, you know, he had no
- 58:27Speaker 3: desire to take.
- 58:30Speaker 2: He wants to be taken care of.
- 58:31Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 58:32Speaker 3: The when she thank god, you know, something like this
- 58:36Speaker 3: was early in their relationships, revealed Yeah, you just see
- 58:40Speaker 3: it like it's not there.
- 58:43Speaker 2: He failed. He failed the tust. You know. Something that
- 58:46Speaker 2: she shared in the after show, which I thought was
- 58:48Speaker 2: really interesting. She was sitting with La La and she
- 58:51Speaker 2: said that she's like.
- 58:53Speaker 5: I'll matertally, it's take it, and I just like to
- 58:56Speaker 5: take care of people.
- 58:57Speaker 2: And Lalla is like for grown men, and she's.
- 59:01Speaker 5: Like, well, yeah, but even at high school, a's like
- 59:04Speaker 5: my buddy that a player skate me with the somebody
- 59:06Speaker 5: at school this bow, I would just bob. She's or
- 59:09Speaker 5: I get of this and I get a bite and
- 59:10Speaker 5: I just don't think I'll always be like that. And
- 59:12Speaker 5: that's like, this's gonna go alight, that's all who I've
- 59:14Speaker 5: always been.
- 59:16Speaker 2: So hm, that's who she is. I get it.
- 59:19Speaker 3: You know, it's not who she is. It's not like
- 59:23Speaker 3: it's what you've done. I mean, I don't think that
- 59:25Speaker 3: specific thing is like you can change that pretty easily.
- 59:30Speaker 2: You know, well, I don't know. I think that you
- 59:33Speaker 2: can change it. You have to. It's just like anything else,
- 59:36Speaker 2: how to not be an asshole. You have to to
- 59:38Speaker 2: learn how to evolve and therapize yourself in order to
- 59:42Speaker 2: change those patterns. But deep down, that is her instinct
- 59:46Speaker 2: and that is her knee jerk reaction to do that.
- 59:49Speaker 2: And so why why does she do that? Because it's
- 59:51Speaker 2: not I know she's saying a maternal instinct, but like
- 59:54Speaker 2: it's it's more than that, Like where does that come from?
- 59:56Speaker 2: And why did Why do women feel like they do
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: need to take care of men like that? Like what
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: is that? I'm curious to see what where that comes from,
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: where it stems from, and why other women don't feel
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: that need.
- 1:00:11Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's basic, you know, self esteem,
- 1:00:15Speaker 3: and it's something that like does I think make sense
- 1:00:19Speaker 3: more sometimes when you're younger and then you know you're like,
- 1:00:24Speaker 3: oh that doesn't work for me. Yeah, I actually need
- 1:00:28Speaker 3: my needs met as well. And I am not a mother.
- 1:00:32Speaker 3: I don't want to be a mother like to this
- 1:00:35Speaker 3: big burly guy you know, who can't pick up a
- 1:00:40Speaker 3: prescription when I am in actual physical, terrible pain. Like, yeah,
- 1:00:44Speaker 3: that's not but you know she can lean on that.
- 1:00:47Speaker 3: It's not going to serve her. That is not the
- 1:00:49Speaker 3: that will always yield a douchebag.
- 1:00:53Speaker 2: It will, and so the next person will. It'll be
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: the same situation over and over. Right, And she even
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: did justify saying, like I wanted to pay him because
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: I didn't want like his kids to suffer from him
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: not being there or like him to lose out because
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: he was taking work off, like she was justifying it. Still,
- 1:01:14Speaker 2: so that is tough to see. And you know what,
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: I did appreciate her honesty in that because I think
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: that a lot of women's show and maybe some men
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: can relate with that. Yeah. I also loved hearing like
- 1:01:27Speaker 2: Jason and Schwartz talked about how they would never be
- 1:01:31Speaker 2: able to do that, like take money like that or whatever.
- 1:01:35Speaker 4: So it's just it's like another level.
- 1:01:39Speaker 3: Someone is out of the hospital having had well, not
- 1:01:44Speaker 3: hob or procedure surgery center, you know wherever we are,
- 1:01:49Speaker 3: and you know that is real recovery and to just
- 1:01:53Speaker 3: need to get paid like a you.
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: Know, a nurse, task grab and call rabbit, right, you
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: know what that's That's what Brittany needs to start understanding,
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: is like, if you want something, don't get a man,
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: get task rabbit. Great, great, okay, task grab it. Yeah.
- 1:02:15Speaker 3: And also if they need things, they have to pay
- 1:02:18Speaker 3: for the task rabbit to do their things.
- 1:02:21Speaker 4: Everything's task grab.
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: Everything is like, yeah, it's thank you outsourced.
- 1:02:27Speaker 3: Everything for at least a year. Everything's task rabbit.
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: I need to use task rabbit more often. You think
- 1:02:34Speaker 2: this is sponsored by it, but it's not. Do you
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: use task rabbit for stuff?
- 1:02:40Speaker 3: I only used it one time to like help set
- 1:02:45Speaker 3: up a piece of furniture.
- 1:02:46Speaker 2: That's the same with me. I did the same thing
- 1:02:48Speaker 2: one time for that.
- 1:02:49Speaker 4: It ended up not being oh great for me.
- 1:02:52Speaker 3: Oh, I think he was in the weeds and I
- 1:02:55Speaker 3: was pitching in and you know, like I don't know.
- 1:02:58Speaker 5: I was like, You're like, oh, but it's gonna give
- 1:03:00Speaker 5: you somebody for this extra Okay.
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well this was good. This was good.
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: I'm glad we did a little deep dive and spend
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: some time with the Valley. And thank you very much Deanna,
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