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Best of Chuck & Buck 5-27 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Come on back on a radio station. Then you just
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  Speaker 1: take a bunch of days off. Is that how it works?
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  Speaker 2: I'd like to get on that plan.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: He must be on the sixth day New sixth Day, Memorial.
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  Speaker 3: Day weekend plan.
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  Speaker 2: He figured it out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very very good on his parts. Did start
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  Speaker 1: yesterday Mike McDonald introduced his brand new slogan, It's not
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  Speaker 1: run it back, it's run it forward, run it forward.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think of the little play on words.
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  Speaker 4: Uh?
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  Speaker 5: I think it's very Mike McDonald, Yeah, yeah, I get it.
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  Speaker 2: I like it. I run it back obviously has a
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  Speaker 2: better ring to it.
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  Speaker 5: Uh huh and I and you know instantly, but run
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  Speaker 5: it Forward is their own take on it, and it's
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  Speaker 5: very seahawksy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he's like overly clever. He's not like
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  Speaker 1: a He's not like Shakespeare. No, but he comes up
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  Speaker 1: with something that is just like north of corny and
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  Speaker 1: a little bit south of clever, and then it always
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  Speaker 1: seems to work like the like even when he got
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  Speaker 1: caught off guard.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what did he say.
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  Speaker 3: On the podium?
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  Speaker 1: Like that was not the greatest line ever delivered on
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  Speaker 1: a podium.
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  Speaker 3: We did, We don't.
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  Speaker 2: We did not care. We did not care.
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  Speaker 3: We did not care.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like that's not exactly eloquent in the moment,
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  Speaker 1: and yet it worked.
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  Speaker 2: It worked.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's because he's so likable too that people
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  Speaker 5: are like, okay, well and want you want a championship.
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  Speaker 1: I think part of it is because he's not like
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  Speaker 1: overly slick, right, Like there is sort of a I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Just a football coach. I'm just a guy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm probably pretty.
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  Speaker 2: Good at it. Yeah, probably I might make this thing
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  Speaker 2: a career.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's something about it.
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  Speaker 1: And then it's still catchy and you're like, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if I should like that as much as I do,
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  Speaker 1: but I do like that you said that for some reason,
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  Speaker 1: and I think the same thing with this.
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  Speaker 3: Run it forward. But we'll get Greg's thoughts on this. Also.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't really talk about Spoon's contract, don't expect him to,
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  Speaker 1: but I did do an entire segment, big segment on
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  Speaker 1: it yesterday about how there's no way that these two
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  Speaker 1: parties can't be close that if they are working on
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  Speaker 1: a contract extension, the Seahawks should know well enough too
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  Speaker 1: with a special player like this, where the contract negotiation
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  Speaker 1: has to start, and it has to start around Trent
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  Speaker 1: McDuffie money, and the agent has to know that, based
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  Speaker 1: off of what they did for JSN, that the Seahawks
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  Speaker 1: are not about to just blow the money out of
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  Speaker 1: the water in order to satisfy player or agent. You
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  Speaker 1: either want to be a part of this, you want
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  Speaker 1: to be a part of something special, or you don't.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to give you a fair offer. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to give you a market offer to try to keep
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  Speaker 1: you and keep you long term, and you're going to
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  Speaker 1: be a really rich man that gets to play for
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  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl contender for the next five years. So
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  Speaker 1: if you want that, we want you. If you're not
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  Speaker 1: interested in that, maybe we're not as interested in you
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  Speaker 1: as we thought. So this should not be a difficult negotiation.
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  Speaker 1: And yet there was a report over the weekend saying
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  Speaker 1: that the two sides aren't close.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I did get it heard.
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  Speaker 1: Qualified a little bit yesterday from Brady Henderson who said
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  Speaker 1: that maybe it's not about that the contract negotiation isn't close,
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  Speaker 1: is that they're not really close to signing. In essence,
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  Speaker 1: they're in no hurry so on the calendar, they're really
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  Speaker 1: not close to signing, they've not even gotten real serious
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  Speaker 1: with the negotiation just yet. So that was for his part,
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  Speaker 1: thinking that maybe he got misrepresented in the quote by
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  Speaker 1: the article that I read at Nfltrade Rumors dot com.
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  Speaker 3: That's where I got the.
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  Speaker 1: Information that maybe that was a little misleading. But it
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  Speaker 1: was never about they sat down at the table and
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  Speaker 1: their offers are completely apart. It's more of they haven't
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  Speaker 1: really even set down at the table, they haven't even
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  Speaker 1: really gotten serious about it, and so on. It from
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  Speaker 1: a calendar perspective, you know, don't set your watch by it,
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  Speaker 1: because it doesn't sound like either side has put any
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  Speaker 1: urgency on getting it done until we're closer to training camp.
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  Speaker 3: So I guess that.
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  Speaker 1: Clarifies the statement that the Seahawks and Witherspoon aren't close
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  Speaker 1: on a deal. It has more to do with the
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  Speaker 1: timing of the deal versus the dollars involved in it.
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  Speaker 5: That makes way more sense because it was kind of
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  Speaker 5: baffling yeat. As we said, maybe this can't be true
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  Speaker 5: because it just seems impossible that the Seahawks would come
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  Speaker 5: in and lowball them, and it seems impossible that he
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  Speaker 5: would come in and ask for something.
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  Speaker 2: So alis rageous.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, just given the situation, it seemed like the natural
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  Speaker 5: progression would be he would get the next highest contract
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  Speaker 5: and it should be pretty straightforward.
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  Speaker 2: So that makes way more sense.
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  Speaker 5: But boy, do people run with the idea, because if
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  Speaker 5: you typed in Devin Witherspoon to Google yesterday, it was
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  Speaker 5: Devin Witherspoon and the Seahawks not even close on contract negotiations. Well, no,
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  Speaker 5: contract negotiations aren't close, would be the better way to
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  Speaker 5: put that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that was like Brady's saying, for
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  Speaker 1: my part, if people are running with my story and
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  Speaker 1: doing that, then they misinterpreted it. And so he's really
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  Speaker 1: good at what he does. Greig's obviously very good at
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  Speaker 1: way that Bob Candota is. Obviously we got some good
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  Speaker 1: guys covering the football team here, and so he was
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  Speaker 1: just like, if people ran with what I reported, then
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  Speaker 1: they misinterpreted Because just for my part, just so I
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  Speaker 1: can clear my soul here, I'm just going to tell
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  Speaker 1: you that that's not what I.
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  Speaker 3: Meant to report. My reporting was.
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  Speaker 1: That they just really haven't sat down at the table,
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  Speaker 1: and it's not like they've planned to do it this weekend.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they used all six days a Memorial Day
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  Speaker 1: weekend to rest and relax as they should.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't use any of the six days that most
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  Speaker 1: people use now to talk about nasty contracts. And so
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  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna get done, and I'll just I'll
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  Speaker 1: still stand by my segment yesterday at seven oh five
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  Speaker 1: that when they do finally sit down at the table,
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  Speaker 1: it should be one of the easiest negotiations in the
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  Speaker 1: history of John Schneider's career.
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  Speaker 2: I would think.
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  Speaker 1: So it is all right, we're gonna use McDuffie's contract
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  Speaker 1: as of the floor. You come up with your offer
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  Speaker 1: that you know we're not going to agree to, and
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  Speaker 1: then we'll work off the two and then reasonable minds
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  Speaker 1: will settle at something very lucrative that keeps Devin Witherspoon
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  Speaker 1: here for five years.
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  Speaker 2: Probably.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I'd go beyond that with somebody
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  Speaker 1: who's not exactly the.
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  Speaker 2: Thickest, sturdiest defensive back that I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think we'd go beyond five, but we will,
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  Speaker 1: out of respect, go beyond four, since we are dealing
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  Speaker 1: with a younger player in Witherspoon than what the Rams
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  Speaker 1: have in mcduffy. So I would imagine it will be
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  Speaker 1: one of the easiest negotiations in John Schneider's.
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  Speaker 2: Career, I would think so.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, but it'll still be painful to to Oh gosh,
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  Speaker 1: that's another big salary that is going to affect us
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  Speaker 1: and our cap significantly going forward.
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  Speaker 3: But we feel that twenty one is worth.
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  Speaker 2: It all right.
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  Speaker 1: Coming on next Greg Bell will join us. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: his thoughts on it. Also your headline Sports Radio ninety
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  Speaker 1: three point three kJ R.
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  Speaker 4: F M.
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  Speaker 2: Two one.
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  Speaker 3: In the air out to right field.
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  Speaker 6: This drifts back to the warning track where Tz is
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  Speaker 6: there to make the catch. Garber is in the score.
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  Speaker 6: So three run, inning, second sack fly. This frame for
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  Speaker 6: the ems like it.
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  Speaker 3: Was a curse. It's like you, you know, you're always
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  Speaker 3: see in those you.
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  Speaker 1: Will never find love, eat this apple, or you will
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  Speaker 1: never hit another left handle.
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  Speaker 5: And then they didn't meet the apple because they were scared,
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  Speaker 5: because you shouldn't take food from strangers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were like, where's that lady, We need
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  Speaker 1: that apple exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So it's as if as if, I mean, it's been so.
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  Speaker 1: Bad, it feels like supernatural, it feels like something artificial
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  Speaker 1: took over our roster and wouldn't allow them to hit
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  Speaker 1: left handers like a force field was put around left handed. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but last night jumped all over Jump Gauge Jump, making
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  Speaker 1: his debut. The A's went out of their way. They
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  Speaker 1: even told veteran Luis Severino, who they're paying tens of
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  Speaker 1: millions of dollars to every year, You're not gonna pitch
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  Speaker 1: tonight because this team can't hit left handers, and we
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of them in the minor leagues. So
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  Speaker 1: we're just gonna grab our best one. We're gonna throw
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  Speaker 1: them at this team that can't hit lefties, and we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna still win this series.
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  Speaker 3: And it didn't quite work out that way.
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  Speaker 1: The Mariners right handed hitters actually did show up last night,
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  Speaker 1: from Victor Roblaze three for three night to Rob Refsnyder
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  Speaker 1: getting on three times, Mitch Garver getting the scoring started
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  Speaker 1: with a double down the left field line.
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  Speaker 3: The Mariners go on to a four to one win.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, that doesn't overshadow Emerson Hancock's outstanding performance last night.
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  Speaker 1: He went six innings of one hit baseball, did not
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  Speaker 1: allow a run. His ERA is at two point seven
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  Speaker 1: to eight on the season. He has been our most
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  Speaker 1: consistent starting pitcher this year. Who would have ever funk
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  Speaker 1: it four to won the final score? Mariners went over
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  Speaker 1: the A's last night. They have won two straight against
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  Speaker 1: the A's, which means in the statistically worst division in
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  Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, the Ems are just a half game
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  Speaker 1: out of first place, believe it or not, despite their
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  Speaker 1: disappointing twenty seven and twenty nine start to the twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty six season, same two teams will play today as
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  Speaker 1: the Mariners go for the sweep Logan Gilbert gets the
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  Speaker 1: start for Seattle and the A's will counter with another
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  Speaker 1: left hander. Veteran Jeffrey Springs gets the start, and they'll
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  Speaker 1: start that game at noon today. High noon, Sacramento. Hide
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: the women and children. It's high noon in Sacramento. The
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  Speaker 1: smell of.
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  Speaker 2: Pig manure and cal manure will be strong and prevalent.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of big bugs, a lot of big bugs.
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  Speaker 3: So that starts your headlines.
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  Speaker 1: Brought to you by Frost Brewed Cords Light Choose Chill
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: Mariner's a four to one win last night. Thanks to
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: Mariner's TV for the highlight. Now some other things, NBA playoffs.
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: I swear that every time I looked up at the
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  Speaker 1: OKC San Antonio Game five last night of the Western
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: Conference Finals, the Thunder were just perpetually up thirteen points,
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  Speaker 1: like every time I looked. I mean, I've never seen
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  Speaker 1: anything like it. So they are just always It's like
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: it's like the line from that George Clooney movie, Oh
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: what a geographical oddity two weeks from everywhere? And so yes,
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  Speaker 1: thirteen points at all times. OKAC apparently was up on
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  Speaker 1: the Spurs last night, and that's exactly how it finished.
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  Speaker 1: A third teen point win for OKC. They are up
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  Speaker 1: three games to two on the Spurs. Game six will
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  Speaker 1: be played in San Antonio Thursday night. I think we're
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  Speaker 1: all wanting to see a game number seven, even people that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, obviously people are gonna want to see Game seven
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  Speaker 1: here because that's the only way the Thunder can lose horribly.
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: The Knicks await the winner of the Western Conference Finals.
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  Speaker 1: They are already they've already put the hate in the barn.
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: Same thing for the Las Vegas Golden Knights. In a
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: shocking development, they not only take the Colorado Avalanche out
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: of the playoffs, they swept the Avalanche. They finished them
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  Speaker 1: off last night, final score two to one, and so
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  Speaker 1: now they wait for the Eastern Conference Finals to conclude
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: Game four Carolina versus Montreal tonight at five o'clock. Hurricanes
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  Speaker 1: are up in a very tight series, two games to
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: one over the Canadians. US World Cup roster was said
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: as we sit here two weeks shy of the World
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  Speaker 1: Cup beginning here in America. Christian roll Don, congratulations to him.
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  Speaker 1: He made the US roster. Jackson Feltz has already ordered
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  Speaker 1: his US jersey.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure he asked.
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  Speaker 1: He made a very abundantly Yeah, last night on Twitter,
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks OTAs has started yesterday, and we're going to talk
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  Speaker 1: about that with our next guest.
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  Speaker 3: Mike McDonald says.
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  Speaker 1: The phrase going forward coming off that Super Bowl year
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  Speaker 1: is run it forward. And we've got an update on
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: Tory Horton's condition. Horton, here's a win. Oh yeah, we
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: heard a win, not a who he heard a win yesterday,
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: as in when will he next be available? Well, let's
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  Speaker 1: ask our next guest all of these questions joining us
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: now is the guy that usually follows us at ten
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  Speaker 1: o'clock unless he's got one of them soft schedules and
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  Speaker 1: yet he's been our Seahawks insider for years. Greg Bell
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  Speaker 1: joins us on the program. Good morning, Greg, Good morning,
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  Speaker 1: How are where are you?
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  Speaker 4: Where are back and Seattle?
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  Speaker 7: I was in Chilanne yesterday our kids and only third
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  Speaker 7: birthday for the twins. Okay, we don't have them together
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  Speaker 7: much anymore, so we got to jump on the birthdays
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  Speaker 7: when they're together.
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  Speaker 3: Did you get like a cabin on the lake? What
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  Speaker 3: did you do?
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  Speaker 7: No?
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  Speaker 4: We went up for the day.
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  Speaker 7: Oh wow, and we went We went surfing. It's called
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  Speaker 7: lakeside Waves, this thing right above slide waters and those
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  Speaker 7: who been to Lando slidewater, It's been around for a while,
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  Speaker 7: but they had this new thing called lakeside Wave where
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  Speaker 7: this is a generated wave. To learn how to stand
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  Speaker 7: up on a surfboard. And our daughter is being stationed
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  Speaker 7: at they're here thirty days at graduationally from the Coast
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  Speaker 7: Guard Academy. She's going to be stationed in Hawaii, and
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  Speaker 7: so my daughter's surf before. We're getting a surfboard.
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  Speaker 4: We got our surfboard for a birthday.
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  Speaker 7: But we haven't surfed much at all, and I'm not.
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  Speaker 4: Very good at it.
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  Speaker 7: So we spent the day standing up and surfing, and
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  Speaker 7: we all stood up and got across.
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  Speaker 1: The wave and okay, now, okay, while you were away,
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  Speaker 1: we talked about you a little bit, Ashley, and if
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  Speaker 1: somebody asked, because Survivor was a big topic last week
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: in the world, somebody asked who would win Survivor? From
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  Speaker 1: kJ R and Ashley and I both after a long discussion,
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  Speaker 1: arrived at you. So you better be able to pick
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  Speaker 1: up things like surfing pretty quickly.
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  Speaker 2: So did you.
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  Speaker 1: Figure it out? I mean by the end, were you
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  Speaker 1: much better than you were at the beginning?
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  Speaker 4: Yes?
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 7: In fact, in fact, the guys and the instructors of
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  Speaker 7: twenty something kids, they said that they never saw people.
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  Speaker 2: Say that we backed the right horse. Oh, thank goodness.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't want to get that wrong.
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  Speaker 4: I didn't know so much riding.
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  Speaker 2: On this There was a lot.
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  Speaker 1: There was a lot of pressure, a lot riding on
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  Speaker 1: something that will never prove. But at least, uh, we
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  Speaker 1: got verification for our talent scouting.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for that. I appreciate the faith. No that
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  Speaker 4: was near, that was at stake.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Well, excellent.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad You've had a good week and a half here,
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  Speaker 1: and soon you'll just be back hosting a boring old
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  Speaker 1: sports talk radio show, so you might as well live its.
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  Speaker 7: Exactly three hours.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Well, ota started yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: You were out learning how to surf, so you didn't
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  Speaker 1: you didn't go to practice yesterday, and yet I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: you got your finger on the pulse of things over there.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start with a topic that I discussed yesterday at
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  Speaker 1: seven o five at great length and then got a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of clarification on overnight, and that is the
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  Speaker 1: Devin Witherspoon contract negotiation, if it's even begun. So from
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  Speaker 1: your perspective, what are you hearing? Where did the Seahawks
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: sit with an extension for their prized cornerback.
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  Speaker 7: Well, it was an anomaly to get Jackson, Smith and
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  Speaker 7: Jig but done as early and as quickly as they did,
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  Speaker 7: and they were so close to the numbers, and Smith
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  Speaker 7: and jigmin his agent and it didn't take long. So
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  Speaker 7: that's why I got done right after the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 7: essentially maybe the highest paid wide receiver in league. This
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  Speaker 7: was this weathersp I don't know why this is a
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  Speaker 7: news item, because this.
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  Speaker 4: Is how the Seahawks do it typically.
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  Speaker 7: We talked at the beginning of off season, most likely
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  Speaker 7: Witherspoon will re sign at our around and start a
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  Speaker 7: training camp at the end of July, because that's when
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  Speaker 7: John Schneider does all his business for his foundational player.
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  Speaker 7: Smith and Jigba was an anomaly in getting done as
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  Speaker 7: quickly and as easily as he did. But I wouldn't
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  Speaker 7: read the fact that Smith and Jigba's got his deal
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  Speaker 7: and Witherspoon doesn't as I wouldn't read anything into that
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  Speaker 7: other than this is more of the Seahawks' normal course
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  Speaker 7: of doing business, and they have talked and they are
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  Speaker 7: trying to get to a number that will satisfy Witherspoon
• 16:50
  Speaker 7: and make him paid as he's played, which is as
• 16:54
  Speaker 7: a three time Pro Bowl player, one of the best
• 16:56
  Speaker 7: in his draft class, and we'll pay him before his
• 16:59
  Speaker 7: contracts after this season, most likely thirty plus million dollars
• 17:04
  Speaker 7: a year. That's thirty one million is the highest paid
• 17:08
  Speaker 7: offensive back right now. Trent mcuffee and the Rams signed
• 17:11
  Speaker 7: him to that deal after they traded with the Chiefs
• 17:13
  Speaker 7: to get him, and I expect Witherspoon to make north
• 17:16
  Speaker 7: of thirty one million dollars a year to become the
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: highest paid cornerback. And now the Seahawks will have the
• 17:21
  Speaker 7: highest paid wide receiver and the highest paid cornerback.
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: In the league.
• 17:24
  Speaker 7: And this is the follow on and in fact, the
• 17:27
  Speaker 7: cost of doing business for a Super Bowl champion, and
• 17:30
  Speaker 7: the Seahawks have not This is not news and this
• 17:33
  Speaker 7: is not going to be break the bank or unexpected
• 17:35
  Speaker 7: thing at all. This is what they've been budgeting for
• 17:38
  Speaker 7: this and they knew they had two first round draft
• 17:40
  Speaker 7: picks playing at the top of their positions heading into
• 17:44
  Speaker 7: this year. And then they win a Super Bowl and
• 17:46
  Speaker 7: there's if this is just the cost of doing business,
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: so nothing to read into that. Now, if he doesn't
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: have a deal as the season begins, then you have
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: something of an issue where there's leverage on the player's
• 17:57
  Speaker 7: side and all of that, but there's no sign that
• 17:59
  Speaker 7: it's going to get to that point.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: That's one thing in the NFL. I mean, they really
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: do make the negotiation easy. Why the Dallas Cowboys make
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: it so complicated as another story, But it's pretty much like,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: all right, here's the highest paid at the position. If
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: you've got one of those guys, give them a little
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: bit more and then you're done. I mean, this should
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: be the easiest negotiation that John Schneider has ever done.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, the bar has already been set, and yes,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: every agent's gonna talk greg like, no, we're gonna set
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: the bar incredibly high. We're not just gonna take the
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: next brick in the road. And yet they always do,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: just like JS ended a couple of months ago. So,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, I would think this is going to be
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: one of John Schneider's easiest negotiations. It feels like everybody's
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: on the exact same page.
• 18:43
  Speaker 7: Well, the thing is, Jacky, it's never easy when you're
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: talking about this much money because then you get involved
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: in the scheduling of the guaranteed money.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: What's the last year the deal looked like?
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: How much guaranteed money is in the first twelve months,
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: how much is guaranteed at signing, how much is guaranteed
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: versus injury. There are a lot of little nuance is
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: inside of a one and two hundred and fifty million
• 19:02
  Speaker 7: dollar deal, and most of it is guaranteed money.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: And when the.
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: Player, when the team is offering and hasn't offered a
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: table for a three time Pro Bowl player still in
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: his twenties, the guaranteed money the team wants to make
• 19:16
  Speaker 7: it so that their salary cap isn't hampered in years
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: going forward. The yin and yang of it is, we
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: they all know the NFL prints money, so the CAP's
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: limit's going to go up every year. But they don't
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: want the contract to be so binding by the end
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: of the deal that a player's nearing as thirty or
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: passing thirty years old, and it's crippling the rest of
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: the ability to buy the rest of the team. And
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: so that's where the leveraging comes in. The player wants
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: guaranteed money up front. The team wants to structure it
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: so that they aren't hampering their ability to go buy players,
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: and that that's why this takes a long time. The
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: actual Yeah, you're gonna be the highest paid quarterback in
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: the league. No, that's a done deal, and that shouldn't
• 19:58
  Speaker 7: take long at all. It'll be in the detail, the
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: guaranteed money. The reference to the Cowboys is a pretty
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: apt one, actually, because from where I sit in the league,
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: the reason why the Cowboys have all kinds of issues
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: getting trades done and trading Michael Parsons and signing player
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: is that their owner is also the factor general manager,
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: and in factor general manager is the owner's son. So
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: there's an inherent conflict of interest that the guy who's
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: deciding on the contract is also the guy who owns
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: the team, and that line gets blurred so often that
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: it makes the Cowboys often inert and causes them to
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: get nothing done. And Seahawks are blessed to not have
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: any of that situation.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Says that of Greg Bell is with us here.
• 20:42
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• 20:44
  Speaker 1: on x at g Bell Seattle or all of us
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: work there at the Newstribune dot com. As he faithfully
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: covers the Seattle Seahawks for you, and we appreciate him
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: joining us here this morning after day number one of
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: OTA's all so great surfer.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Now, it couldn't have said that twenty four hours ago,
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: but now now we can say it.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: All right, Tory Horton, we got a little bit of
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: an update yesterday on his health. It has been a while,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, to the point, where are we ever going
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: to get an update on Tory Horton? And not only
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: did we get one a pretty positive one yesterday.
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: Well it's yeah, the most mysterious and extensive shin injury
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: and history shin injuries, it appears Meg Mike McDonald called
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: it good news about Tory Horton. He didn't specify what
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: that was, but he said that it seems His quote
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: was it seemed Tory.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: Has made great strides.
• 21:40
  Speaker 7: Seems like we got a lot of feedback that can
• 21:42
  Speaker 7: really accelerate his recovery, which is great. He deserves some
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: good news. He's been working really, really hard. It's one
• 21:48
  Speaker 7: of those things, it's like you don't have a timetable
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: until you do.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: I don't know what that means.
• 21:53
  Speaker 7: He said, some good good news back on Tory's front,
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: which is really exciting. Again, we'll have a better feel
• 21:59
  Speaker 7: for Tory as we enter training camp. So that's somewhat
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: consistent what he said at the beginning of the off season,
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: and that he didn't expect Horton to be a part
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: of the OTAs of the mini camps, but perhaps would
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: be back for training camp, and that sounds like that
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: may be the case near the end of July. I
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: still think he's a candidate to start the training camp
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: on the physically Enable to Perform list.
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: Not a big deal.
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: You can come off of that any time, but it
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: gives you some roster flexibility if he doesn't progress. That
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: by the end of training camp. You could keep him
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: on the pup list to begin the season and miss
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: the first.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Month or so.
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: But he and Zach Charbonnay will be the two big
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: injury coming off injury stories for training camp and when
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: the Seahawks can get those guys back on the field.
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: And Kenny McIntosh is another one, of course, had the
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: knee injury the running back to start a training camp
• 22:46
  Speaker 7: last year.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: He said.
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: On those two fronts, sharbon Ay and Penny McIntosh, mcdonn said,
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: it's hard to pin down their timeline right now. We'll
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: probably have a better idea as we circle back in July.
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: So there's three players right there who have a chance
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: to begin training camp on the physic and able to
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: perform with us. But in the coaches words are progressing
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: and they don't need him on the field in July,
• 23:08
  Speaker 7: of course, but I'd begin the Charboney deal with nobody
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: expects him to be on the field and training camp
• 23:15
  Speaker 7: right towards acl and mid January.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Right, and so the running back depth chart no doubt
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: written in pencil right now, but I guess they're going
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: on the working correct me where I'm wrong. That price
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: basically fills in for Walker, and then Wilson is filling
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: in for charbon Ay until charbon Ay is fully healthy
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: and ready to go, whenever that might be. And then
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Macintosh and Halani then are.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Just depth pieces. Is that where it sits right now?
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Or are we looking at a full scale anybody's ballgame
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: battle for carries in training camp this year at running back.
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: Well McDonald will tell you it's the latter, and Emmanuel
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: Wilson is competing.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: And Wilson wasn't there yesterday.
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: McDonald said he had a personal issue he was taking
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: care of back home. Remember these are voluntary, they don't
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: have to be here.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: But by the way, they had.
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: A ton of participation again by the veterans, which is
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: a good sign to repeat him what they had last year.
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: But they're saying Emmanuel Wilson's going to be here to compete.
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: He's on a one year contract with low money, low risk,
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: low guaranteed deal from the Packers. He was a five
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: hundred yard back, a part time back with the Packers.
• 24:26
  Speaker 7: But they're saying he's going to have an opportunity to
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: be with the ones and to get primary carries. They're
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: not just this is the NFL way, you have to
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: earn your way through depth charts, and just because you're
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: a first round pick, they don't say you're a starter
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: from day one.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Unless you're grayce Able.
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: So they're going to make him earn it and not
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: annoint him.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: As the starter talking about Price until he starts.
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: But yes, the expectation is Price is the number one back.
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: George Hallani I mentioned it before. He impressed the coaches
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: with being pressed into second running back duty in the
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: NFC Championship game in Super Bowl, and I'm doing it
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: very well. Broke tackles, pass blocking, caught some passes and
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: some checkdowns from Sam Darnold, did everything they asked him.
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: That it was the moment in the NFC Championship game
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: in the Super Bowl. Not too big for the former
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: undrafted rookie from Boise State. I would not under sell
• 25:20
  Speaker 7: what impact George Lawe he might have on this coming
• 25:23
  Speaker 7: season for what he did in the playoffs. When you
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: step up and perform like that, a former undrafted rookie
• 25:29
  Speaker 7: and just say okay, sure, my job now great and
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: does it everything that they ask him to do at
• 25:33
  Speaker 7: the biggest stage, that goes a long way with his
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: coaching staff that's mostly back in tech.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Greg Bell is with us our Seahawks insider, So what
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: did you make of run It Forward?
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: You like that?
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Is that going to make a lot of T shirts
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: this year?
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: Yes, I'm sure that'll be on slogans and on the
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: walls of the building. Mike McDonald is huge into approach
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: and process, and it's interesting to hear him talk about, Okay,
• 26:00
  Speaker 7: won the Super Bowl? How am I going to change
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: it this year? And this is his change is to say,
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: how can we be better? As a Lucas put it,
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: how good can we be? We just won the Super Bowl?
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: But okay, now what now? How much better can we be?
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: McDonald admits it's not starting over from scratch. He's got
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: a defense that's coming back almost entirely intact, ten and
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: eleven starters basically if he counts Josh Job over Rik
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: Wollen as a starter. So the messaging is vital to McDonald.
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: He spends a lot of time on this. He spent
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: a lot of time talking about it yesterday, but he
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: spends a lot of time trying to decide how am
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: I going to approach these guys, how's the messaging going
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: to be fresh? And new, and in fact, Byron Murphy
• 26:40
  Speaker 7: said yesterday, the defense itself is new. There's new fronts
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: McDonald's putting in, there are new schemes. He's not resting
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: on more the number one defense in the NFL and Super.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Bowl champs come get us.
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: He's changing too, because he knows the entire league is
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: studying the Seahawks defensive and offensive for that matter, schemes
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: and he needs a counter to the counter, and so
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: Murphy said, he's already doing that. But as far as
• 27:04
  Speaker 7: the messaging goes, yes, run it forward and not start
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: from scratch, but build on what they did last year.
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: And how are they going to make the process better?
• 27:13
  Speaker 7: How are we going to practice better? How are we
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: going to meet better? How are we going to make
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: our time management? How are we going to be more efficient?
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: How are we going to change our game plans in
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: midweek and in mid game.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: If we have to.
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: How are those edges that McDonald talks about it's going
• 27:28
  Speaker 7: to change? And it all sounds like lip service in May,
• 27:30
  Speaker 7: but it really does matter to a Super Bowl champion
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: that's got its roster returning, it's forty nine or fifty
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: three players coming back from a Super Bowl champion team
• 27:40
  Speaker 7: and most of its coaching staff except for the offensive
• 27:42
  Speaker 7: coordinator Brian Flurry replacing Klink.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: Kubiak coming back?
• 27:46
  Speaker 7: How do you make it a new challenge? And McDonald
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: talked about running.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: It forward yesterday as the words he's.
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: Using for that. I wouldn't dismiss it as just coach
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: speak because it actually takes up a lot of time
• 27:58
  Speaker 7: of what Mike McDonald's been doing this offseason.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: All Right, what do you got You're back on the
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: show today.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: What do we got to plan?
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: I am Bob Nightingale, longtime baseball writer. I used to
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: cover the Al West with twenty five years ago in USA.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Today he's going to join us at eleven o'clock.
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: We're going to talk about this whole piggybacking thing. I'm
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: sure you've already talked about the Mariner's Brass trying to
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: meet with each of the pitchers, Miller and Castio, and
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: it's a mass that neither guy likes.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: And I'm going to see if.
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: Bob Nightingale can think of a contending team, a former
• 28:31
  Speaker 7: coming off of a championship series, even never trying to
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: do something like this.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: I don't think I don't think it's ever been attempted period.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: I don't think so either. Yeah, I don't either.
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: I think they're trying to showcase Castillo to trade him
• 28:42
  Speaker 7: and that they're optimal. That's why they don't want to
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: just banish him to the bullpen.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: I think they love to do that, but I don't
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: think that that's possible. I don't think anybody's going to
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: take on that salary.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: No, probably not so. Yeah, So here you are here
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: in this in between.
• 28:58
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but yill let me talk about that and we'll
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: talk more about Seahawks. Who was at the mini camp
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: who wasn't not alarming to some people. A. J. Barner,
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: for instance, had offseason surgeries.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: He's there, but not participately. We'll talk about that too.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, sounds great, awesome, glad you had a great time,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: and we will see you here in a couple hours.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: All right, sir, Thank you, Greg.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Belt Our Seahawks inside. If you want to follow him,
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• 29:27
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• 29:31
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 29:32
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  Speaker 2: You can't make me, do you do it? Kind of
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  Speaker 2: in your head?
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, that's my time.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: That's fair. So you don't like walk around the house,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: says and see a letter and be like, you know
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: what B is for brash?
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: No, that's more B for booze on the weekend. Yeah,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: and I'm not really thinking about that.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: The Mariners. Yeah, C is for cognac, just.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Go down there for dacheres A is for just alcohol.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: But the ABC said, the m's now brought to you
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  Speaker 2: And people do like that. Let's get to the letters.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, we left off of the letter R yesterday. I
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: had a lot of options here at R, but I'm
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: gonna go with R is for ref Schnyder. And I
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: don't really mean I really I mean I'm saying this
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: because he's out of town. I'm not even kidding. If
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: he was in town, I might not even say this. Oh,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: but he's out of town, so I know he's not listening.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think he listens period. I don't think ref
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Snyder's that kind of dude. I mean, I got to
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: know him a little bit at spring training. Don't get
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: the impression he gives a damn about what a talk
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: show host thinks. And yet I wouldn't say this because
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I don't want there's a little bit of progress. He
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: got on base three times yes esterday, so I don't
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: want to taint that progress whatsoever. If that's progress, let's
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: just keep moving that forward here today. He's obviously struggled
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: more than any Mariner, and I mean any Mariner so
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: far this season. And yet because he's not listening, I
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: do want to point out that maybe we did find
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: his greatest skill set, and that's getting hit by pitches
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: while not really getting hit by pitches.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Because he did it twice last night.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever seen that, like two
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: times hit by and he technically was hit by a pitch.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's why the A's didn't challenge the first one,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: because they're like, well, I think the review is going
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: to show that he might have like clicked his batting glove,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: but that.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Hit off the knob and you even saw it.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Ref Schneider was asked about it when he got to
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: first base and Katse was actually going to make a
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: pitching change. I thought he was coming out to challenge it,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: and he was coming out to make a pitching change,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: and ref Schneider leans into his first base coach and
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: the trainer that came out to check on him, and
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: you could read the lip his lips. John Boy would
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: have a field day with this, and he just says,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: hit the bat.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: That's what he said. It hit the bat.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: And then he gets hit by a pitch later and
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: doesn't really get hit by a pitch because your uniform
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: is part of your body, right, and so it grazed
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: his uniform. So he had two hit by pitches last
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: night and he didn't get hit by a single pitch.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I mean that is a skill. That that is a skill.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Well, if you can develop it.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a he's got to work on. He's
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: got a honus craft.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: It's a good starting point for developing a skill. Maybe
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: it was just a fluke, but the talent's there.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: You can see it.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: He's the Roy hobbes of getting hit by pitches while
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: not getting hit by pitches.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I believe in him. I'd love to watch the practice
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: on that too. Did it get you that time? Nope,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I'm good.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you threw it way too close to my body.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: You've got to like that.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I have no chance of getting out of the way
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: of this. The idea is not to get hit by
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: the pitch while getting hit by a pitch. Tried it again, covered.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: In bruises because he keeps getting hit by the pitches.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Take it from the top.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: All right, here we go again, thirty more. Yeah, try
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: this one right off of my ear piece. Rob, I
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: think that's dangerous.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: No, No, I'm gonna turn my head.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: We've got to work on it if we're gonna perfect it.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: All right is far sensational.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: This is another thing I tweeted about last night as
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I'm now just realizing I'm just doing my tweets in
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: the ABC's at the ends. All right is for sensational.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Cole Young's play last night in the Hole was sensational.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: And I try to point these plays out on occasion
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: because the networks that make the highlight packages, they always
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: put something where somebody is embellishing, like I timed out
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: my dive so that I could look really cool.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, or you know I got my uniform dirty.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: You know, I rolled in the grass so that it
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: looked more impressive than it is.
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: I used to.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I tell Mike Cameron this all the time when I
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: see him. You didn't make the highlight packages like Jim
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Edmonds did in his day because you took better roots
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: to the ball. You got there faster, and you took
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: away doubles in the alley, and you made it look
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: you made it look easy.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: You did it on both feet.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, anybody will tell you at first base you
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: run through the bag because if you dive for the bag,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: it actually slows you down.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: Well, the same thing.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, there are times to dive for a baseball
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: you have to, but a lot of the times if
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: you just run through the ball, you just run through
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: the fly ball, you're gonna get there faster. And Mike
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Cameron was as good as anybody I've ever seen doing that.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Jim Edmonds every single time wanted to be on the
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: highlight film, and the highlight film makers would fall for it,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: every sing this looks cooler, so we're gonna go with
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: this one. That's the highlight, not the better play made
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: by Mike Cameron last night in Seattle where he took
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: a triple away without even leaving his feet. Well, Cole
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Jung had a similar play last night ball in the hole.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: If you remember, late in the game between first and second,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: he got a great jump on it. He covered a
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: lot of ground and a short amount of space. It
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: was a very tricky hop. I mean, Aaron and Angie
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: keep talking about how spongy the field is. So he's
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: even on a field which is spongier than what he's
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: used to, probably spongier than what God should allow, and
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: he still makes a play on a very tricky hop
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: look easy while on the run, plants his feet while
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: he's pretty much down the first baseline, down the right
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: field line, and still squares up and throws a solid
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: strike to Josh Naylor that hits him right in the
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: chest when our shortstop can't do that on a dare. So,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, that was a sensational play as predicted, not
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: on any of the highlights. There are a lot of
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: people that liked that tweet, I mean hundreds of replies
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: to that, and all they did was like the tweet,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: they didn't nothing snarky. There are a few people like
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I brought my son into the room, which I appreciate
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: because I think everybody recognized that as an excellent play.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: And yet even on the broadcast last night, I don't
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: think they made a big enough deal out of it,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: because that was a phenomenal baseball play.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he just gets you.
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: Every time he does something cool, You're like, Okay, I'm
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: really excited for what he can do, and then he
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: does something a little cooler, and last night was great.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: That was a great point. That was a great play.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Just didn't look like it because he didn't dive, he
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: didn't get dirty.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: No, but I mean, you know, stretched and kicked.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because he's.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Fifty, he did all the other things.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Finally, teas for tricky because I loved this play last
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: night too, and he almost pulled it off. But Josh Naylor,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Kevin Sitzer told us at spring training and I asked
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: him about Josh Naylor said, I've never seen anyone play
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: baseball with better court awareness, and obviously they don't play
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: on a court. That's usually a phrase say for basketball players,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: you have court awareness, And this was Kevin Seitzer, who,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: by the way, had a really long successful playing career
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: before he became a very successful hitting coach for years
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: for decades in Major League Baseball.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: So Kevin Seitzer's seen a thing or two.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Kevin Seitzer was George Brett's teammate for goodness sake with
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: the Kansas City Royals, and that's one of the greatest
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: players of our lifetimes. And so for him to say
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: in a very short period of time, Josh Naylor might
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: have the best court awareness of anyone that I've ever
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: been around. Boy did we see that on display last night?
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: And he didn't quite get away with it? And I
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: love the facial expression that he made, like did I
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: get away with it? But he went over to the
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: net and he positioned his glove such that if he
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: pushed the net back, he might create more space in
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: order to make the catch against the I mean, obviously,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: if you're going to go try to make a catch
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: against the net, you probably are going to go.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Higher and get up. But he knew, no, it's going
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: to hit the net.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: So I got to push the net away first, and
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: in order to create more space, I need to hook
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: my glove around and catch it on the inside. That
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: was one of the smartest plays that you will ever
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: see made by a first baseman. And to have the
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: hand eye coordination. I mean that's like, that's two things.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: That's literally multitasking right there.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: I could never do that.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I can't do that.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: I am incapable of doing that.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Like how much science do I have to use with
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: my left hand and then how much do I have
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: to use with my right hand? That's split in your
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: brain in two to pull that off, plus having the
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: mindset of seeing it before it happens, like to be
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: able to come up with it because that ball's not
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: in the air very long. No, it's a split second
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: choice and no one has ever made that decision in
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: the history of baseball, Like, how do I catch this
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: ball with that net? And he thought of my strategy
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: wallet's in the air, and still almost pulled off the play.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: I loved that play last night, even though I think
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: they were right. I think it did scrape the net,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: and I think they made the right play.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: And he knew.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: He knew it too, Yeah, even though he did a
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: tremendous job trying to play it off.
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he would have been real angry if it hadn't
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: and yeah, I mean, but he is smart. And it's
• 39:27
  Speaker 5: the same thing when he's out there stealing signs quote unquote,
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: because half the time he's probably not. He's just throwing
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: them off of thinking that he knows what throw, what
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: pitched the pitcher is gonna throw, and that throws him off.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's just his head is always in the game.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: He's so smart.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, very smart player. T You're tricky. You are tricky,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna keep my eye on you. And then
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: he had that like cheshire cat grin of his where
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: it's like, did.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: I get away with it? Yeah? What do you I
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: think I did it? Did I do it? Ah, you're
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: gonna review it.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stick around for it. I'm gonna go
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: put ba angles on. I'm gonna act like I did it.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna really play this off. And then they're like, no,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: we reviewed it, We're gonna overturn it. He's like, yeah,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I knew all.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: So, so two tremendous plays last night that maybe they
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: weren't talked about in the post game show. That's what
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: the ab season the m's are for, to point out
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: some different things that maybe weren't discussed after the game
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: last night. All Right, we're gonna get reckless at breakfast next.
• 40:26
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• 40:28
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• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Eight o'clock hour here on this hum day. Great to
• 40:54
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• 40:55
  Speaker 1: It is Chuck Powell, Ashley Ryan with you, Chuck and
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Buck in the mornings. Still waiting news on Bucky. He
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: is on medical leave right now, but we should get
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: some information on that that we can pass along to
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: you soon. Nothing to fret about, just some things he
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: had to look into, and so we continue with business
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: as usual. It's Chuck and Ashley with you as we
• 41:16
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• 41:18
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• 41:21
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• 41:25
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• 41:30
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• 41:31
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• 41:34
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• 41:36
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• 41:40
  Speaker 1: to talk some Seahawks off season. It's number eight at
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: eight off Season edition right here on Chuck and Buck
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: in the Mornings.
• 41:47
  Speaker 8: How are you, sir, Hey, good morning. How are you?
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: I'm great, I'm great. How's your spring going's how's the
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: off season for you?
• 41:55
  Speaker 9: Well, my middle daughter, Mallory just finished up for NCAA
• 42:00
  Speaker 9: lacrosse career, was at Stanford and.
• 42:02
  Speaker 8: They got knocked out in the Elite eight.
• 42:03
  Speaker 9: So that was a disappointment as any parent who you
• 42:07
  Speaker 9: know travels with their kids and their sports teams.
• 42:09
  Speaker 8: But but my older daughter was the sideliner reporter for
• 42:12
  Speaker 8: the final four in the national championship.
• 42:14
  Speaker 9: So uh, I got to just say, you almost get
• 42:16
  Speaker 9: more nervous as a parent when you're when you're when
• 42:19
  Speaker 9: your child is doing something like that. Really, And I'm
• 42:22
  Speaker 9: coming from a from a place where I was a
• 42:24
  Speaker 9: goalie parent at one point, so anybody that's a that's
• 42:27
  Speaker 9: a goalie parent can understand what that lifestyle is like
• 42:30
  Speaker 9: as well.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: So are you at full empty nest at this point?
• 42:35
  Speaker 9: We're two years into an empty nest right now, which
• 42:38
  Speaker 9: is uh, it's it's been quite a quite an experience experience.
• 42:44
  Speaker 9: There's a lot that they don't tell you about. You know,
• 42:46
  Speaker 9: it's not like the movies. If anybody can, uh can
• 42:49
  Speaker 9: can relate if they're at that point. But uh, but
• 42:51
  Speaker 9: a lot of time, you know, spending time with our
• 42:53
  Speaker 9: parents as well, which as you know, somethings, as you know,
• 42:57
  Speaker 9: you you say goodbye to your kids, you you know,
• 42:58
  Speaker 9: you spend I feel like you spend more time with
• 43:00
  Speaker 9: your parents if you can. So it's it's been great though.
• 43:03
  Speaker 9: We've we've enjoyed the uh, we've enjoyed the time and
• 43:06
  Speaker 9: and it's actually given me a lot more time to
• 43:08
  Speaker 9: kind of focus on on other things like the Seahawks
• 43:11
  Speaker 9: and and other things, because, uh, there was a stretch
• 43:14
  Speaker 9: there where we were just doing you know, burning it
• 43:16
  Speaker 9: at both ends with travel soccer and travel basketball, travel hockey,
• 43:21
  Speaker 9: like all the stuff.
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: And uh, it's nice to kind of just take a
• 43:24
  Speaker 8: deep breath.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you've never had a normal spring or summer as
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: an adult. I mean, I mean between getting ready for
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: the next football season, uh and raising children, like to
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: have time on your hands, you actually can do some
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: adult summery things.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: You might even go on a trip Matt.
• 43:41
  Speaker 8: Might even take up golf.
• 43:43
  Speaker 9: But you know, it is it is interesting, like people
• 43:46
  Speaker 9: talk to me about like the this year's NFL schedule
• 43:48
  Speaker 9: and how they're going to be playing on the day
• 43:51
  Speaker 9: before Thanksgiving and on and on Thanksgiving, the day after
• 43:54
  Speaker 9: Thanksgiving and then Christmas and like, you know, all these holidays,
• 43:57
  Speaker 9: and you know, funny, it's funny because like as an
• 43:59
  Speaker 9: NFL player and even a college player, we never had
• 44:02
  Speaker 9: those holidays, Like I never felt like ever had a Thanksgiving,
• 44:06
  Speaker 9: Christmas New Year's like those were never Those were always
• 44:09
  Speaker 9: work days, whether you had a game or not. You know,
• 44:12
  Speaker 9: it was really the only question was like, you know,
• 44:15
  Speaker 9: when is Mike Holmgren giving us three hours off to
• 44:18
  Speaker 9: do you know, plan Santa Claus' arrival? You know what
• 44:22
  Speaker 9: I mean, Like when's that happening? Because or when is
• 44:26
  Speaker 9: when is Thanksgiving dinner going to be served or whatever?
• 44:30
  Speaker 9: Because they were work days, whether you had a game
• 44:32
  Speaker 9: or not, you were preparing for a game or something
• 44:36
  Speaker 9: like that. So it is a new day and age
• 44:38
  Speaker 9: of the NFL. I think the Seahawks are playing on
• 44:40
  Speaker 9: every single day this year besides Tuesday. They've got a
• 44:43
  Speaker 9: game I believe on a Wednesday, a Thursday, a Friday,
• 44:46
  Speaker 9: a Saturday, Sunday, and a Monday, which is you know,
• 44:49
  Speaker 9: just kind of comes with the territory when you win
• 44:51
  Speaker 9: the Super Bowl. But it's it's definitely a new NFL
• 44:54
  Speaker 9: and they're playing a bunch of games overseas this year
• 44:57
  Speaker 9: as a league.
• 44:57
  Speaker 8: So you know there's a lot to fall.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Well, and I do want to get into the Seahawks,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: but I'll stay on that for one more question, because
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Jason Kelcey recently said it's too much that we're we're
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: getting away from the sacred nature of Sunday NFL football.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: How do you feel about that?
• 45:15
  Speaker 9: It's probably too much for him because now he's chosen
• 45:18
  Speaker 9: a career where he has to talk about all these games,
• 45:20
  Speaker 9: and so when he accepted the job at ESPN, they
• 45:23
  Speaker 9: probably said, hey, Monday night football only, and then his
• 45:26
  Speaker 9: brother starts, you know, dating Taylor Swift, and then they're like, hey,
• 45:30
  Speaker 9: we need you for Sundays too. Man, You're the hottest
• 45:33
  Speaker 9: thing in all of sports now. So it's Sunday and Monday.
• 45:36
  Speaker 9: And now he's looking at his offseason, he's like, wait
• 45:38
  Speaker 9: a second, I got to cover in the media these
• 45:40
  Speaker 9: teams on a Wednesday, a Thursday, a Friday, a Saturday,
• 45:43
  Speaker 9: a Sunday, a Monday, Like it'd be easier for him
• 45:46
  Speaker 9: if he just went back to playing center for the
• 45:48
  Speaker 9: Eagles where he was off Monday, Tuesday, practice hard, Wednesday, Thursday, halfday.
• 45:54
  Speaker 8: Friday, off day, Saturday game on Sunday. You know, like
• 45:57
  Speaker 8: that's what's probably in his mind.
• 45:59
  Speaker 9: But you know, I think for the fans, it's a
• 46:04
  Speaker 9: great opportunity to grow the game. Maybe follow your favorite
• 46:07
  Speaker 9: team and go overseas, catch a game in Australia or
• 46:10
  Speaker 9: Europe or Brazil or you know, who knows where wherever
• 46:14
  Speaker 9: you want. So I do think it's kind of fun.
• 46:17
  Speaker 9: And I also think like a lot of this is
• 46:19
  Speaker 9: gearing up to the LA twenty twenty eight Olympics when
• 46:22
  Speaker 9: flag football is going to be an Olympic sport, both
• 46:24
  Speaker 9: for men and women. And so, you know, I've met,
• 46:27
  Speaker 9: you know, through my career, so many women who are
• 46:31
  Speaker 9: very knowledgeable and passionate about football, but like tackle football
• 46:35
  Speaker 9: just really hasn't been a thing.
• 46:37
  Speaker 8: And now so I think for like, you know, younger
• 46:39
  Speaker 8: girls who.
• 46:40
  Speaker 9: Are coming up, whether it's a high school sport or
• 46:42
  Speaker 9: maybe even a college sport like flag football is a
• 46:45
  Speaker 9: path like it could be a path to a full
• 46:47
  Speaker 9: scholarship in college, it could be a path to a
• 46:50
  Speaker 9: gold medal.
• 46:52
  Speaker 8: And all because you know, you just love the game
• 46:55
  Speaker 8: and so.
• 46:56
  Speaker 9: I don't know, I think there's some cool opportunity with
• 46:58
  Speaker 9: the growth.
• 46:58
  Speaker 8: And where the game is.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: I do love the idea, though, but about the fact that,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, here are American football players who are the
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: closest thing we have in the world today to gladiators
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: of Roman times. And I love the idea because we
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: used to have Cliff Avril on our staff as well,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: and he looked at me like, I could never do
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: what you do, getting up as early as I get up.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: And I like the idea that these gladiators, American gladiators
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: can come over to my side and say I'm not
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: tough enough.
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: To do that.
• 47:29
  Speaker 8: I mean, it is a real thing.
• 47:31
  Speaker 9: And I think it's also that way with players who say, like, hey,
• 47:34
  Speaker 9: I'm just going to go into coaching, Like I don't
• 47:36
  Speaker 9: think players while they're playing in the NFL have a
• 47:39
  Speaker 9: healthy enough respect for how hard the other jobs are
• 47:43
  Speaker 9: that are tentacles that connect to the game of football,
• 47:46
  Speaker 9: whether it's in broadcast or coaching.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: Is a big one.
• 47:49
  Speaker 9: A lot of guys will be like, oh, I'll just
• 47:50
  Speaker 9: go into coaching, and then they see the work and
• 47:53
  Speaker 9: the hours and the dedication that goes into coaching.
• 47:56
  Speaker 8: And quite honestly, they don't. They don't have it in
• 47:59
  Speaker 8: them to do it.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 48:00
  Speaker 8: It's it's a calling, and it's a you.
• 48:02
  Speaker 9: Know, you're you're staying up all night thinking about how
• 48:05
  Speaker 9: I can make my players better? What drills can I
• 48:07
  Speaker 9: do to help make them better? What can I how
• 48:09
  Speaker 9: can I say it differently to help this person be
• 48:11
  Speaker 9: the best that they could possibly be, you know, And
• 48:14
  Speaker 9: it's you know, it's kind of like being a teacher,
• 48:16
  Speaker 9: you know. You you know, the students probably half the
• 48:19
  Speaker 9: time feel like, oh, why.
• 48:20
  Speaker 8: Doesn't my teacher like me? He's always giving me a
• 48:22
  Speaker 8: hard time, this, that and the other.
• 48:23
  Speaker 9: It's like, No, the teacher, just like the coach, I'm
• 48:27
  Speaker 9: really just trying to push you to be greater than
• 48:30
  Speaker 9: you ever thought you could be and trying to like
• 48:32
  Speaker 9: unlock the potential that's inside of you.
• 48:35
  Speaker 8: That's what teachers and coaches do.
• 48:37
  Speaker 9: And just because you can throw a great spiral or
• 48:39
  Speaker 9: you've got a great pass rush, doesn't mean that you've
• 48:41
  Speaker 9: got the gift of teaching or coaching.
• 48:43
  Speaker 8: Right, So it's you don't.
• 48:46
  Speaker 9: You don't realize it until after you're done playing, I
• 48:49
  Speaker 9: think for most players.
• 48:51
  Speaker 8: But uh, but you do realize that at some point.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Matt Hasselback, the Great Matt Hasselback, joining us here this
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: morning on Chuck and Buck in the Morning, talking a
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: little Seahawks offseason.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: So let's get into a few things.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: About the world champion Seattle Seahawks here with you, and
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: I want to talk specifically about Sam Darnold to get
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: the conversation going, and I want to relate him to you.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Although your paths into the NFL were quite different. You
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: had your breakthrough season waiting behind Brett Farv and in
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Green Bay, you had your breakthrough season in two thousand
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: and three. You made a Pro Bowl your first year,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: starting sixteen games, went ten and six, and you kind
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: of proved that year that I'm in the club. You know,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: I still got a lot to prove, but I'm definitely
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: in the club. I'm one of the better guys out
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: here playing this position in the National Football League. And
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Sam's had to, you know, live down a lot of
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: doubt that has surfaced since his days with the New
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: York Jets, and so he kind of he not only
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: passed over into another threshold, he became a Super Bowl
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: champion and doing it this past year. And so here's
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: where I would relate it curious as to how you
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: think Sam Donald approached this off season. How did you
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: approach the offseason after you broke through that crust? Did
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: you fight complacency, did you work even harder because you
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: got a taste of it? What did you go through
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: after your breakthrough year? And relate that to what Sam
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Donald might have gone through this offseason.
• 50:22
  Speaker 9: Well, it reminds me. You know, I had a conversation
• 50:24
  Speaker 9: with Sam last year around this time, and you know
• 50:29
  Speaker 9: it was a little bit about the fact that he
• 50:31
  Speaker 9: just really wasn't getting the respect that I thought he
• 50:34
  Speaker 9: deserved after the year that he had in Minnesota. He
• 50:37
  Speaker 9: had an incredible year, and you know, all anybody wanted
• 50:41
  Speaker 9: to talk about were his failures with the New York
• 50:44
  Speaker 9: Jets or with the Carolina Panthers, or how he was
• 50:47
  Speaker 9: only a backup of the forty nine ers, and and
• 50:50
  Speaker 9: how his one year in Minnesota was kind of a fluke.
• 50:52
  Speaker 9: And you know what we talked about a little bit
• 50:54
  Speaker 9: was some of the some of the tougher spots in
• 50:57
  Speaker 9: my first four years of the NFL. It was just
• 51:00
  Speaker 9: it was hard, Like there were some things like getting
• 51:03
  Speaker 9: you know, getting trash, you know, getting basically trashed in
• 51:08
  Speaker 9: the media or boot out of a stadium or you know,
• 51:11
  Speaker 9: And I think he kind of took this approach like, man,
• 51:13
  Speaker 9: I didn't even know that, you know, Like I think
• 51:15
  Speaker 9: he was twenty seven years old at the time. He's like,
• 51:17
  Speaker 9: I didn't know that about you. Like all I remember
• 51:20
  Speaker 9: was this version of you right in Seattle, Like I
• 51:22
  Speaker 9: don't remember that. And so I think we kind of
• 51:25
  Speaker 9: bonded over that, like the hard times, like the scabs,
• 51:28
  Speaker 9: the wounds that he had sort of experienced early. But
• 51:33
  Speaker 9: to answer your question, to see what he's done since
• 51:36
  Speaker 9: he won the Super Bowl, it's been completely different than
• 51:39
  Speaker 9: what other Super Bowl winning quarterbacks have done. Almost all
• 51:44
  Speaker 9: of them have taken like this victory lap during their offseason.
• 51:48
  Speaker 9: You see him at the Kentucky Derby all decked out.
• 51:51
  Speaker 9: You see him at the met Gala, you see him
• 51:53
  Speaker 9: at all this stuff that quite honestly has nothing to
• 51:56
  Speaker 9: do with running it back or running it forward. As
• 52:00
  Speaker 9: Mike McDonald said, yesterday has nothing to do with it.
• 52:04
  Speaker 9: What he has chosen to do is exactly what he
• 52:08
  Speaker 9: did last year and kind of be all about the work.
• 52:11
  Speaker 8: Getting away.
• 52:13
  Speaker 9: And not doing it necessarily in the spotlight.
• 52:15
  Speaker 8: Now.
• 52:16
  Speaker 9: I know he's also getting married this summer and stuff
• 52:18
  Speaker 9: like that, but that can almost stuff like that can
• 52:20
  Speaker 9: almost be the absolute best thing for you when you
• 52:25
  Speaker 9: kind of step away and recharge, and it's not necessarily
• 52:28
  Speaker 9: about football. It's this major life event you're getting married
• 52:32
  Speaker 9: and all that stuff, but it's not about all the
• 52:34
  Speaker 9: things that are distractions. You see some guys come back
• 52:36
  Speaker 9: ten pounds heavier. You see some guys come back lighter,
• 52:39
  Speaker 9: look like they haven't put.
• 52:40
  Speaker 8: The work into the weight room.
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 52:42
  Speaker 9: I don't think his off season has been like that
• 52:44
  Speaker 9: at all. And if yesterday is any indication, from the
• 52:48
  Speaker 9: footage that I saw, he looked sharp, and so I
• 52:52
  Speaker 9: think that the combination of the off season that he
• 52:55
  Speaker 9: had in the disrespect that he still gets. There were
• 52:58
  Speaker 9: two major national pub locations that came out this week
• 53:02
  Speaker 9: ranking starting NFL quarterbacks. I believe two of them at
• 53:07
  Speaker 9: him outside of the top fifteen. I think in one
• 53:10
  Speaker 9: he was nineteenth overall, and one he was seventeenth overall.
• 53:13
  Speaker 9: So I think that ship on his shoulder it's not
• 53:16
  Speaker 9: going away.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to remain right there to fuel him.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbeck is with us. What about the team itself?
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: I think we can all agree. I think even Mike
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: and John might agree that they're a year ahead of
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: schedule with that Super Bowl championship, and what do you
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: do with it? I mean, obviously, when you have a
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: team this good, this early, with a new ed coach
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: and this young of a roster, people around here start
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: thinking about how many championships can we win. We've watched
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: a previous Sea Hawk team win a championship and kind
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: of fell apart after that, kind of came apart at
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: the seams fighting over you know, who gets the most credit.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: So what would be your advice to the twenty twenty
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: six Seahawks to stay on this path and and what
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: is the most important thing to trying to win as
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: many championships as possible in this window?
• 54:11
  Speaker 8: Yeah? Well, you can only win one at a time,
• 54:12
  Speaker 8: you know.
• 54:13
  Speaker 9: And I think some of the arrogance that comes with
• 54:15
  Speaker 9: the organizations and the players that talk about we're gonna
• 54:19
  Speaker 9: be winning multiple championships. Hey, how about you win the
• 54:21
  Speaker 9: next one?
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that, that's what.
• 54:23
  Speaker 9: Helps you win a championship in the first In the
• 54:25
  Speaker 9: first point, your your biggest game is your next game.
• 54:27
  Speaker 9: And you you nailed it, like on the head about
• 54:29
  Speaker 9: the you know, unselfishness that comes with it, not caring
• 54:32
  Speaker 9: about who gets the credit. And so I think my
• 54:34
  Speaker 9: advice would be just the unity, you know, and sticking
• 54:37
  Speaker 9: together and uh and not and basically taking taking a
• 54:41
  Speaker 9: lesson from last year's team. It was that mob mentality.
• 54:44
  Speaker 9: It was the mission over any bs, it was the
• 54:47
  Speaker 9: mission over anything and and and that's what I think
• 54:51
  Speaker 9: has splintered some of these other teams from getting back
• 54:55
  Speaker 9: is it's not about the mission anymore. It's about personal accolades.
• 54:59
  Speaker 9: It's about where my place in history is or where
• 55:02
  Speaker 9: my role, Like what's the pecking order on this team?
• 55:05
  Speaker 9: And I think Mike McDonald is the secret sauce. I mean,
• 55:08
  Speaker 9: there's a lot of credit.
• 55:09
  Speaker 8: To go around.
• 55:10
  Speaker 9: John Schneider's done an amazing job. But like Mike McDonald,
• 55:13
  Speaker 9: this will be his third year as a head coach,
• 55:16
  Speaker 9: like ever anywhere, Like he at Jones Junior High, he
• 55:20
  Speaker 9: wasn't even the head coach. I mean this is this
• 55:22
  Speaker 9: is like the third year and he's already you know,
• 55:26
  Speaker 9: I mean to accomplish what he's accomplished, right, So I
• 55:30
  Speaker 9: think that's that's what's so special about this group and
• 55:33
  Speaker 9: what's so exciting. And then also like there's some teams
• 55:36
  Speaker 9: out there making one last push, like the Rams with
• 55:39
  Speaker 9: Matthew Stafford who's thirty seven years old and Aaron Rodgers.
• 55:42
  Speaker 8: Who's in his forties.
• 55:43
  Speaker 9: You've got a young quarterback who's going to be like
• 55:46
  Speaker 9: twenty nine years old this season, who's still under contract.
• 55:51
  Speaker 9: Like the future the setup on paper is really bright.
• 55:55
  Speaker 9: It's a young, talented roster.
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: That way.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: I have a very good friend of mine and he's
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: sports talk radio in Kansas City, so he's had a
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: good run with the Kansas City Chiefs, and uh that
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: the first time I saw him, Matt after the Seahawks
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: had won the championship, his question was, uh, well, how
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: do you think Sam's gonna respond to losing his quarterback
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: coach and his uh OC And it was a bit
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: of a warning shot like don't don't underestimate that. You know,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: once a guy has a bit of a breakthrough season
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: and gets comfortable with an offensive coordinator and then he
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: loses that guy. Uh, that's a slippery slope. And so
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: how would you describe the changeover at offensive coordinator, quarterback
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: coach and how that could affect Sam in this offense.
• 56:40
  Speaker 9: I think it's a huge loss. Who was in Klin Kubiak.
• 56:43
  Speaker 9: He's really special. I think he's a great coach. I
• 56:46
  Speaker 9: don't I don't think that that's a uh. I don't
• 56:48
  Speaker 9: think that that's nothing. It's a big deal. At the
• 56:51
  Speaker 9: same time, you know, I have Mike McDonald and the
• 56:54
  Speaker 9: staff that he puts together, and you know, a lot
• 56:57
  Speaker 9: being made at Brian Fleury. He's never been in an
• 56:59
  Speaker 9: offensive play color before.
• 57:02
  Speaker 8: You know, it is a thing.
• 57:03
  Speaker 9: But I would also say, we're not putting somebody on.
• 57:06
  Speaker 8: The moon here. We're calling offensive plays. It's either a
• 57:09
  Speaker 8: run or a pass.
• 57:10
  Speaker 9: We're playing. We're expecting, we're expecting zone. I don't think.
• 57:14
  Speaker 9: I don't think it's the most complicated thing on the planet. Now,
• 57:17
  Speaker 9: what I do think sometimes people get right and sometimes
• 57:21
  Speaker 9: they don't get right. It's just the chemistry and the
• 57:24
  Speaker 9: trust and the vision and the accountability and say hey,
• 57:28
  Speaker 9: raise my hand, and hey it's my bad to honesty,
• 57:30
  Speaker 9: keeping everybody happy, making sure everyone's getting their touches, seeing
• 57:34
  Speaker 9: the whole offensive structure through the lines of the guys
• 57:38
  Speaker 9: up front, who I believe have the hardest job, and
• 57:41
  Speaker 9: you can make their life a lot easier if you
• 57:43
  Speaker 9: just look at everything through their lens first before you
• 57:46
  Speaker 9: get all super creative with the.
• 57:48
  Speaker 8: Passing game and the running game.
• 57:50
  Speaker 9: So I just think that if you have a good
• 57:52
  Speaker 9: staff and you have a collaborative effort, and then you
• 57:55
  Speaker 9: have a guy that's been around and he's prepared and
• 57:58
  Speaker 9: waiting for his moment, which I think put Brian Flurry
• 58:00
  Speaker 9: is that guy. And if you can get to trust
• 58:03
  Speaker 9: and on the same page with the quarterback and the.
• 58:05
  Speaker 8: Play caller, I think it's okay, Like we can get
• 58:08
  Speaker 8: this done.
• 58:09
  Speaker 9: It's very rarely does a team go and win the
• 58:11
  Speaker 9: Super Bowl and not get pillaged. But whether it's in
• 58:14
  Speaker 9: their coaching staff or their players, or in this case
• 58:18
  Speaker 9: the Seahawks, their assistant GM's now getting interviewed with the
• 58:21
  Speaker 9: Minnesota Vikings like you're going to pull from winners because
• 58:25
  Speaker 9: you want to.
• 58:25
  Speaker 8: Be like them.
• 58:26
  Speaker 9: You want to know what the secret sauce is, and
• 58:28
  Speaker 9: so it's going to happen, So Klint Kubiak, in this case,
• 58:32
  Speaker 9: it's going to be a loss. But uh, but like
• 58:34
  Speaker 9: I said, I think I just have trust in Mike
• 58:37
  Speaker 9: of pulling it together and Sam and Sam as well
• 58:40
  Speaker 9: because he's been around the block a little bit now,
• 58:43
  Speaker 9: so I think they can get it done.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: So what about losing Ken Walker? What does that do
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: to that magical chemistry.
• 58:49
  Speaker 9: You know we're doing. Like with fans and fantasy football
• 58:52
  Speaker 9: people in particular, they really feel like the irreplaceable guy
• 58:56
  Speaker 9: sometime is the running back. And I know running backs
• 58:59
  Speaker 9: won't like to hear me say this, but when you
• 59:01
  Speaker 9: talk to scouts and g and coaches, it to them
• 59:07
  Speaker 9: it's one of the most replaceable positions when you look
• 59:11
  Speaker 9: at like the cost that it would, you know, be
• 59:14
  Speaker 9: to cheap somebody you kind of like to go sort
• 59:17
  Speaker 9: of younger and cheaper and more of a committee. And
• 59:20
  Speaker 9: so Kent Walker had a great year last year, certainly
• 59:23
  Speaker 9: finished strong, which was a huge part of the reason
• 59:26
  Speaker 9: that the Sioux were able to win the Super Bowl.
• 59:28
  Speaker 9: But you know, going with Jedari and Price and the committee,
• 59:32
  Speaker 9: maybe sharpa nacames back healthy. I mean, the committee approach
• 59:36
  Speaker 9: certainly is one that makes some people feel more dynamic
• 59:40
  Speaker 9: as an offense.
• 59:42
  Speaker 8: Now, not everybody feels that way.
• 59:43
  Speaker 9: Some people like the Derrick Henry model where he gets
• 59:46
  Speaker 9: all the touches or the Christian McCaffrey model where he
• 59:49
  Speaker 9: gets all the touches, and that's another way to go.
• 59:52
  Speaker 9: It's just if you're going to be spending your money
• 59:54
  Speaker 9: there and not spending it up front or on defense,
• 59:58
  Speaker 9: you know. So I think there's that is a hole
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 9: that needs to be filled. Some people need to step
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 9: up to fill those to fill those carries or those
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 9: reps and all that stuff. But at the same time,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 9: I think this team's going to be stronger up front
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 9: and the offensive line, and they're going to be really
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 9: dangerous on the back end in the secondary. So if
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 9: you've got to give up something somewhere, I think I'm
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 9: probably in line with John Schneider's philosophy that, you know,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 9: maybe running back by committee is the.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 8: Way to do it.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm kind of with you all on that.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: I do want to ask you before we close out
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: one question about JSN because it kind of feels like
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: the Rams did some anti JSN stuff this offseason bolstering
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: their secondary. Knowing what a weapon he's been. I know
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: you are a huge fan of JSN. How could you
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: not be? So is there anything that the Rams or
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: anybody else can do that can slow this guy down,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: because maybe he's just that special.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 9: Well, everyone else is trying to do it. With the
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 9: disrespect that the awards show At NFL Honors, they couldn't.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 8: Say his name.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 9: The NFL accidentally sent him the Defensive Player of the
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 9: Year award trophy instead of the Offensive Player of the
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 9: Year trophy.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 8: So you know, he's getting.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 9: Disrespected all kinds of different ways from different spots. But
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 9: the true measure of respect is what the teams in
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 9: your division do in the draft and free agency to
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 9: try to stop you. I remember I was at the
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 9: Green Bay Packers my rookie season and Randy Moss just
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 9: went off with the Minnesota Vikings, just torched the NFL completely.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 8: And we had really good dvs.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 9: We The very next year, we drafted a corner in
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 9: the first round, a corner in the second round, and
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 9: a corner in the third round, and our head coach
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 9: basically was like, Hey, we'll see if one of y'all
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 9: can cover Randy Moss, because so far we've not met
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 9: anybody that can do it, and so I don't know
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 9: that we're at that extreme, but it was definitely a
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 9: sign of respect to Randy Moss, the wide receiver, and
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 9: I think that's kind of what's been happening with this
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 9: division with js SUN.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: All Right, well, what are you gonna do with your
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: beautiful spring day? I mean, we have beautiful weather here.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Maybe you don't have it where you're at right now,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: but what are you gonna do with this day the
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: rest of your day now that you've done the most
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: important show?
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 9: Well, so my my son is moving back to college,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 9: you know, he's he's a quarterback at Appalaxis State this year,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 9: and so we're saying goodbye to him and he's moving out, uh,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 9: going back to school. He's on break for Memorial Day.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 9: And then my daughter, she'll have her final class out
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 9: in the or sorry out in the northern California and
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 9: we'll be moving her out this month too, But looking
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 9: forward to coming up to Seattle for for an ota
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 9: here in June.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 8: And she has do a great job of inviting there.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 9: I guess they call them legends former players back and
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 9: so it'd be great to see the team of close
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 9: and personal see that new banner that hanging in the
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 9: vMac and uh and and say hi to some old
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 9: former Syhawks as well.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: That's phenomenal.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: Alright, Matt, well enjoy, thank you very much for your time.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: That was outstanding and hopefully we can bug you again
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: real soon.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 9: Absolutely good to talk you.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: Matt Hasselback joining us for a very special off season
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: number eight at eight here on Chuck and Buck in
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: the Morning's great stuff out at him, including the stuff
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: on Sam Darnold, which I do want to get back
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: into a little bit later on in the show. But
• 1:03:22
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• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: it's here to stay. Let's just put it this way.
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  Speaker 1: all right, let's talk some Mariners baseball. Last night, they
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  Speaker 1: do get the victory over the A's four to one,
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  Speaker 1: they've got a chance to move into first place.
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  Speaker 3: I mean obvious obviously where they long the way they've
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  Speaker 3: played so.
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  Speaker 2: Far, just how we have been talking about that, right
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  Speaker 2: is how we drew it up.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, so they will be playing today for first place.
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  Speaker 1: By three o'clock today they could be a first place team.
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  Speaker 1: And this is despite just to cut through the bull
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  Speaker 1: crap about all right, nobody in town will tell it
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  Speaker 1: like it is, which is nonsense. This is a team
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  Speaker 1: that has been bad offensively. They've been bad defensively. I
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  Speaker 1: think they've been poorly managed by Dan Wilson. I think
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  Speaker 1: they're the worst challenging team in the entire sport. As
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  Speaker 1: Ashley and I have laughed about, it's so painful that
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  Speaker 1: we have to laugh about how bad they are a challenges.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking about the ABS system. I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking about what's coming down from the coaches as well
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  Speaker 1: and what they're choosing to challenge. They're terrible. I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know when's the last time we won a challenge.
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  Speaker 1: Feels like it's forever. I know we have, so don't
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  Speaker 1: point it out to me, but it just feels like
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  Speaker 1: we are zero for three. Every night we lose both
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  Speaker 1: our ABS challenges and we lose our challenge from the manager.
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  Speaker 1: That's how it feels.
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  Speaker 5: And people you'd think would be really good at it
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  Speaker 5: are really bad at I mean, it's just across the board.
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  Speaker 2: That's the thing I can't figure out.
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  Speaker 1: So obviously you put all of those things together. We
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  Speaker 1: are not playing well. This is the baseball team, the
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  Speaker 1: team that we follow, the Sea that Tole Mariners have
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  Speaker 1: not played well all season long, and yet by the
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  Speaker 1: end of today.
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  Speaker 3: They can be in first place in their division.
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  Speaker 1: Now A lot of that has to do with how
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  Speaker 1: bad the division has been so far this year, and
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  Speaker 1: I will tell you, I think it's better than what
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  Speaker 1: it's showing right now. I'm close to making a wager
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  Speaker 1: with anyone because right now in the National League Central,
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  Speaker 1: there are five teams that are all above five hundred,
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  Speaker 1: and there are zero above five hundred or at five
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  Speaker 1: hundred in the American League West. I think by the
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  Speaker 1: end of the year there'll be two and two. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't I'm not going to wager that because
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  Speaker 1: that's way too risky. But nonetheless, my point is, I
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  Speaker 1: think that there are a couple of teams in the
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  Speaker 1: American League West that are four teams that are far underperforming,
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  Speaker 1: and I think there are a few teams in the
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  Speaker 1: National League Central that are overperforming. And that's why we
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  Speaker 1: play one hundred and sixty two, because after one hundred
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  Speaker 1: and sixty two the real team emerges.
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  Speaker 3: So yes, we are.
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  Speaker 2: Certainly if we're in first place at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the day.
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  Speaker 1: First and foremost, we have taken advantage of an entire
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  Speaker 1: division that is off to a rough start so far
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  Speaker 1: this year, so not a lot to brag about, but nonetheless,
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  Speaker 1: whoever wins that division is getting in the playoffs. Will
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  Speaker 1: you want a golden te to whoever wins the division
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  Speaker 1: they get into the playoffs, no matter what the record is.
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  Speaker 1: But still, Ashley, I mean, we could be a game
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  Speaker 1: below five hundred and in first place by the end
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  Speaker 1: of today despite all the things that I just said.
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  Speaker 1: Bad defensively, bad, offensively, poor, managing, terrible, challenging and then
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  Speaker 1: awful against left handed pitching the worst and the entire sport.
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  Speaker 1: And so to me, if that doesn't tell you how
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  Speaker 1: well the roster has been constructed, that you can still
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  Speaker 1: win every other game that you've played so far this
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  Speaker 1: year despite probably playing as bad as you could possibly play.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the amount of hair pulling moments like where
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  Speaker 5: we just want to pull our hair out and scream
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  Speaker 5: at the television and yell iving has been ten times
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  Speaker 5: what it was by this time last year. It's been
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  Speaker 5: beyond frustrating for this start of the season. So to
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  Speaker 5: do all that, yeah, and then come back together. As
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  Speaker 5: we've been talking about, you know, I don't want to
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  Speaker 5: say it's early, but as we've been talking about, it
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  Speaker 5: is early. There's a lot that can change, There's a
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  Speaker 5: lot that can change. It doesn't mean these earlier games
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  Speaker 5: don't count, these losses don't count, but it means you've
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  Speaker 5: got time to make up for it.
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  Speaker 2: That's and that's what we could be doing.
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  Speaker 3: Which is we've already done it.
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  Speaker 5: Right, Well, yes, but I'm saying, like that's what that's
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  Speaker 5: what to be in the lead after today, if we
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  Speaker 5: could do that, that's well, that's just it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, for all of the don't say it's early. People,
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  Speaker 1: are you out of your mind? You are just flat
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  Speaker 1: out wrong. It's like what you're saying that it's done
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  Speaker 1: and we're not even playing good baseball, and yet by
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  Speaker 1: the end of the day, if the season ended, we'll
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  Speaker 1: be in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: So how could it not be early?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's early because you have time to make
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  Speaker 2: up for things.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right, nobody's saying that these games don't count, but
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  Speaker 1: by now you should definitely have a read on what
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  Speaker 1: the Mariners do. In the Jerry Depoto era, they stink
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  Speaker 1: until the summer and then they're great in the summer,
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes they pull themselves out of the muck and
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  Speaker 1: a couple of times they haven't done that in the past,
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  Speaker 1: but they've won five years in a row. We've got
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  Speaker 1: a winning record, So this team does not stink. They
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  Speaker 1: have stunk so far this year, and for all of
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  Speaker 1: their stinkage, at the end of the day, we could
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  Speaker 1: be in first place right and looking up. So from
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  Speaker 1: that standpoint, I'd say as poorly as they've played, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I still remain encouraged. I just chatted with Ryan Healey yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: I still don't go to win this division, and I
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  Speaker 1: think they're going to win it comfortably. I think that's
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  Speaker 1: just how well they're constructed. Because you could be bad
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  Speaker 1: in four of the five major areas of the sport.
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  Speaker 1: Because we're not very good at base running either or
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  Speaker 1: haven't been so far this year, and because the pitching
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  Speaker 1: has been very good and still not as good as
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  Speaker 1: it could be.
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  Speaker 3: We're still in a position.
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  Speaker 1: Where we're a playoff contender right now, and that's playing
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  Speaker 1: as poorly as I think that this roster is capable
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  Speaker 1: of playing, because I don't think we have a bad offense, no,
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  Speaker 1: and I know we're not this bad against lefties like
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  Speaker 1: historically bad against lefties, and I think we will play
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  Speaker 1: better defense once we get the right pieces in the
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  Speaker 1: right places on this team going forward. But I don't
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  Speaker 1: think we're ever going to play good defense. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that's the way that the roster is built right now.
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  Speaker 1: And now that we've got a relief pitching kind of
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  Speaker 1: intact and Munos has been a little more consistent in
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  Speaker 1: all five of our best guys are back and healthy,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's going to be a higher functioning unit.
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  Speaker 1: And I still think our starting pitching has another level
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  Speaker 1: that it could reach.
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  Speaker 3: It should be great, and.
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  Speaker 1: So far this year it's been very good. So almost
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  Speaker 1: everything about this team has underachieved to this point in
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  Speaker 1: the year, and yet you still have a chance to
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  Speaker 1: be in first place by the end of the day.
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  Speaker 1: In a strange way, that's encouraging because I don't think
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  Speaker 1: they can play worse, and we've got one hundred games
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  Speaker 1: to prove.
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  Speaker 3: That how good you actually are, So let's get it together.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And also that's not a challenge to say, I don't
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  Speaker 5: think they could play worse, Like we're not issuing a
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  Speaker 5: challenge to see.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think things are long.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you want us to show you you think I've
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  Speaker 1: been so they don't call me a ref Schneider nothing.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, not a challenge, but yeah, things are looking up, right,
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  Speaker 5: You've got ref Snyder and his new skills of getting
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  Speaker 5: it but not getting hit.
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  Speaker 2: You've got Roe.
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  Speaker 5: Blazed back, hopefully Cal will be back soon. Yeah, you've
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  Speaker 5: got Spire back, Brash back.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, things are looking up.
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  Speaker 1: That's another thing. The injuries. Yeah, that if pilot and
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  Speaker 1: everybody deals with them.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, we're not alone.
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  Speaker 1: But that's why they call it. You deal with them,
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  Speaker 1: You deal with them. You try to tread water until
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  Speaker 1: you get everybody back. I mean we were Brash has
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  Speaker 1: been a huge part of this team. Now Dan will
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: only pitch him once every three years.
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  Speaker 2: But we break glasses. Yeah, emergency, but uh, but Brash
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  Speaker 2: has been down.
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  Speaker 1: He's been vital to this team so far. Spire's been down.
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  Speaker 1: We've had Miller, and you've seen how effective Miller is.
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  Speaker 1: We've been pitching without him all season long.
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  Speaker 2: And then Cal. I mean, we've gotten no contribution out
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  Speaker 2: of Cal.
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  Speaker 1: We've gotten Anti. He has a war to this point
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  Speaker 1: of the year, and now he's not even available to
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  Speaker 1: fix that for us. So certainly none of us anticipated
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Cal Raleigh was going to go from historic season by
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: a catcher to being a detriment to the baseball team. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and that's what he's been this year. Number one not
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  Speaker 1: available and then number two has not produced. He has
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: a negative war. That means whoever is just a standard
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  Speaker 1: replacement would be playing better baseball than Cal Raleigh so far.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's just I mean, obviously nobody is expecting that.
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  Speaker 5: Cal definitely didn't expect that, and I don't anticipate that
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  Speaker 5: it is. Right, He's never gone on the aisle in
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  Speaker 5: his entire career, and now he's on the aisle.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that's good. I think he needed it.
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  Speaker 5: I think he needed it one to sort things out
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  Speaker 5: mentally right, so that he could come back in the
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  Speaker 5: right headspace and hopefully be better, and to clearly something
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  Speaker 5: was bothering him that they were kind of trying to
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  Speaker 5: see if they could just get away with given us
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  Speaker 5: a day off here and there.
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  Speaker 2: So it's good that he was forced to go get better.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the point is that if it could go wrong,
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  Speaker 1: it's gone wrong for this team so far this season.
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  Speaker 1: And yet somehow, by the end of the day, with
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  Speaker 1: all this nasty, stinky dust that has been stirred up
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  Speaker 1: by the twenty twenty six Mariners. When it clears at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the day, there's a chance.
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  Speaker 3: That we are in first place and would qualify for
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  Speaker 3: the playoffs at this season ended day. That's crazy.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: That is it is crazy how poorly they've played. So
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  Speaker 1: now you've got over one hundred games to prove just
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: what your true colors are. So if you're not a
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: bad offensive team, we'd like to see that. And so, look,
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  Speaker 1: I think there are some legitimate elements on this team
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  Speaker 1: that we should be concerned about. Going back to spring training,
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  Speaker 1: I said I'm concerned about defense, and that has proven
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  Speaker 1: to be true. Yeah, And so I don't think JP
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  Speaker 1: Crawford can play shortstop. I don't think he has the
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: whatever's wrong with his arm. He can't make the throws
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: right now. And I don't think that gets better over
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: at third base. Turns out you got to throw from
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: third base too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.
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  Speaker 1: So but if we have the improvement at shortstop with
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  Speaker 1: cold Emerson and we get Brendan Donovan back, and that's
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: not great. I mean, we're not talking about Nolan Aeronato
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  Speaker 1: over there. We're not talking about Greg Nettles or Brooks Robinson.
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  Speaker 1: But he was getting better in May. Then he was
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: playing the position in April, and I suspect he would
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: continue to get better going forward. Now there's talk about
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: JP sliding over to third, but I think there's something
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: wrong with JP's arm.
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  Speaker 5: Somebody yesterday suggested JP going to left field, and I
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: was like, how could he make that throw?
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  Speaker 1: Well, Brendan Donovan would be better off and left field
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  Speaker 1: because he's got more experience in left field. And I
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  Speaker 1: also don't think JP's a solution at DH. Everybody wants
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  Speaker 1: to keep his bat in the lineup. Why he's hitting
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  Speaker 1: two hundred. He's not getting on base consistently, and I
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: don't care if he's popped seven home runs. That's not
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  Speaker 1: the JP Crawford that we want. We want the JP
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  Speaker 1: Crawford that walks once a game and puts the ball
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  Speaker 1: in play and occasionally gets a flare like he had
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: yesterday that lands in left field, So that means you
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: get on base twice. If you're getting your walk and
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: you're getting a hit every other game, then that that's
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  Speaker 1: the JP that I want to see at the plate.
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  Speaker 3: We're not even getting that version.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: We're getting the version that thinks he's a thirty home
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: run hitter, and so that to me is a big
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: question mark for this team. But there's a chance that
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: we get better defensively. You saw, we've seen Cole Young
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: will get cal Raley back. That's an improvement. And so defensively,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think we're ever going to be special, but
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: we should be able to get slightly better there. Offensively,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: we should flat out just be a better group. And
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: yet this left handed hitting thing, or assume me, this
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: left handed pitching thing, is obviously an issue. I mean
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: when the A's are going as far as calling up
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: prospects because oh man, Luis Severino, I mean, we're paying
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: him millions of dollars per year, but this team can
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: hit lefties. Just find me a lefty. I don't care
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: where he is, home, depot, wherever.
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  Speaker 2: Just bring him up.
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  Speaker 3: This team can't hit him.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: We're sure of that.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: Well, last night we actually got to their.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: Number one prospect, pitching prospect, Engage Jump or at least
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: left handed pitching prospect. We got to him last night,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: and so maybe that is an indication of further success
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: for this group.
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  Speaker 3: At least it's off the schneide. But that is a
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: major concern.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, we are right now thirtieth in Major League Baseball,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: and batting average against left handers twenty ninth, and on
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: base percentage.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're hitting under two hundred as a team
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: against lefties.
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  Speaker 3: So that's real.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: That is real.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: That is a real concern.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: Defense is a real concern, and hitting lefties is a
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: real concern. Now compared to the concerns that other teams
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: have in our division, probably you'd probably take those warts.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: But I do believe both have to get better. I'm
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: going to assume we get a little better at challenging.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: I'm going to assume as things slow down that maybe
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: we get back to second half Dan Wilson in terms
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: of his managerial decisions, and even though I don't think
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: it was ever great last year, he was better at
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: the end of last year than he's been so far
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: this season. And I do know that we're going to hit.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: This team has been assembled to hit this year. They're
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: going to and I still think, Ashley that the pitching
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: is going to get better. So but when you have
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: the very good to great pitching, you pretty much can
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: stay in every game, and that is an advantage that
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: no one else in our division is going to have.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: They just simply are not going to have it. I mean,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: the A's are going to outslug you on occasion, but
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: put good pitching against them and look how they get neutralized.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: They're not going to be able to pitch like we pitch.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: Neither are the.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: Astros with all of their injuries and their kind of
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: rebuild that they're going through. And the Rangers they might
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: be able to do it with starting pitching, they can't
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: do it out of their bullpen, that's for sure.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: So that's our advantage going forward.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: Real concerns, but I still think our real concerns are
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: less than other teams real concerns, and I still think
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: our strengths are better than other teams in this division.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: Strengths, Yeah, I do too.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 5: And people were pointing out on the text line, weren't
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 5: the Mariners a game under five hundred and on June
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 5: eleventh last year? I mean, yes, people are aguing, Yes,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: this is the way it works every single year, and
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 5: maybe that's why we get frustrated because we just want
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 5: I mean an added I shouldn't say, maybe that that's
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 5: definitely an added element to why we get so frustrated
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 5: because we're sick of it. Happening every year. We want
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: to see something, you know, hot out of the gate.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 5: But at the same time, I suppose if at the
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 5: end you're playing your best baseball, that's.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: What really matters. It is tiring, it is exhausting.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: I'm so sick of it. I'm so sick of this.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: And you know what, I asked Scott's service, oddly enough,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: the year before his final season, and I asked them.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: They had a post season press conference, they missed the playoffs,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: and I said, what is the organizationally, what are you
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: going to.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: Do about the slow starts? Because this has been a trend,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: this isn't just an outlier.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: And he was angry.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: He was angry with me.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: Because I think he took it as he's not getting
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: his team prepared for the start of the year. And
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: so they really treated they like kind of dismissed the question,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: like angrily dismissed the question, like they weren't even going
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: to give rise to the thought that they weren't doing
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: things the right way to start the year and that
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: they don't have to rethink anything else. And so I've
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: kind of I remember that, and it has not gotten
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: any better. No, it has not improved.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: No, it's a fair question to ask, right, Yeah, after.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: Many years of it. And where is it written that
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: the Mariners have to start slowly?
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't know, And Wilson says, to rip
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: that book.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: Dan Wilson says, after every game, every loss, that's baseball
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: for you.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: But what are you gonna do about it? That's baseball?
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: Well, no, baseball is not.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, baseball is filled with highs and lows, peaks
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: and valleys, slumps and streaks, and you really don't know
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: when one's going to end and the other one's going
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: to start. It is a strange, cruel game filled with loss,
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: and as Ryan Heatley tells us almost every Tuesday, it's torture.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: Even when you're going, well, you're tortured by how do
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: I keep it going? You know, things of that nature.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: We understand how hard a game it is to play,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: or at least everybody should understand how hard a game
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: it is to play. And that's baseball. And they're going
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: to be those stretches.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: But why does it?
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what's not baseball. Every year in
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: baseball you start horribly, that's not.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: That was baseball. Then it would happen to every other
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: team as well.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: Exactly, it only happens to the Mariners.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: So I've felt for a long time you need to
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: organizationally because I'm not gonna listen to the Marine layer.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: No, you said we've had really nice weather.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 3: Exactly, that's a horse crap excuse. Yeah, if you're using
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: it or it's just so chili.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: Like Julio suggested at the beginning of.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: The year, who cares get over it. There's a problem
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: with how you're approaching the season, and it needs to
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: get fixed because this is gross and I'm sick of it,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: and I get angry and I get worked up about
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: it every year, and I was certain that this year
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: was going to be different, and it hasn't been different.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: This hasn't Yeah, just as frustrating, if not more.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: All Right, coming up next, Sam Darnold's off season, now
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: that he's broken through the crust and into the other
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: side of World champions how should he approach this offseason?
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: I asked Matt Hasselback earlier in the show. Will replay
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: his answer for you and respond ourselves on Sports Radio
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  Speaker 1: ninety three point three kJ R f M.
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  Speaker 3: I just had just one.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: Single isolated sneeze. That was one of the most powerful
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: sneezes that has ever left my body.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even know where it came.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: Is that what shook the building? I think maybe?
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: Okay here that are the generators out again?
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  Speaker 2: Are we on a question?
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  Speaker 5: Someone earlier said, what happened to your signal? I was
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 5: like nothing, but at the same time.
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  Speaker 2: Like, who knows, its possible my sneeze may have taken
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: it out.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: I do like a good sneeze.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 5: On occasion, on the way back from WINATCHI I think
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 5: I sneezed fourteen times.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I like a good fourteen snau No
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: one person in the car said bless you.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: I think they just got sick of it. They're like, okay,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: we give it. Yeah, I'm going to give you on
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: the first one. They didn't even say it the first one.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm going to always give it.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: I think they knew there was more to.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 5: Come, and they were waiting, and then it just kept
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 5: going and by then they forgot they hadn't said anything.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: Oh is that right? Yeah, so it was like fourteen consecutive.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, well, like for I sneezed and then like
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 5: thirty seconds later later, I sneezed and then thirty seconds
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 5: later I sneezed.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: So not continuous, no, no, no, it was like every
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: that's an odd stretch of sneezing, was there.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: I think there was just a lot of dust in
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: the the on the softball field. Yeah, but I've heard
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: if people like like they have a fit with it,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, usually I'm just a two.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm always a three.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: Like an isolated one is very rare, but rarely do
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: I go over to Yeah, so I'm a two guy.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: I'm a two sneeze guy. And I've seen, I have heard.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: I've overheard it, believe me, because I've covered my food.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: Somebody sneezing like like fourteen times in a row because
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: they can't stop. But for thirty second interole.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: Got a little he sneeze in a break, and yeah,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: it was.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: I would have said bless you once and then I'm like,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: you're not getting another one, and then I would think
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: by about number eight, i'd be.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: Like shut up.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's how I think they felt. They just
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 5: forgot to also say bless you. They were like, she's
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 5: doing this again, Gosh, why don't you just shut up
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 5: right now? Ashley's always trying to get some you know,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 5: sympathy for sneezing. We get it.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: We're trying to have a conversation, Ashley.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's basically what happened.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: Trying to enjoy the ride.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're trying to sit here in silence. You keep
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: effing it all up.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: Stupid, rude, sneezing Mom's the worst. All right, let's talk.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: The Seahawks have made a trade today, and they're serious
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: about this, and I think, for the first time in
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: my life, I get it. They really want the best
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: special teams groups that have ever lived. Yes, they're doubling down,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: and they've just traded for the Jets. A seventh round
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: pick for the Jets, and pretty much allly is is
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: a special teamer. Irvin Charles is his name. Wide receiver
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: slash special teamer Irvin Charles for a conditional seventh round pick.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: Charles has been with the Jets since twenty twenty two,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: so probably not a good chance he's ever going to
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: establish himself.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: As a wide receiver.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't think so.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: Sounds like he's just a special teams guy, and that's
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: what John seems to.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: Be adamant about.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: Collecting.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: Some people collect stamps, some people collect coins. John Schneider
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: these days is collecting demons and special teams.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: Coverage, and it sounds like he's added yet another one.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: And I would have laughed at this in the past,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: but not after what I watched last year, because our
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: special teams group had a lot.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: To say about winning a world championship.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, I get it a year ago, so a team
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: I think I get it as well. If you're getting
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: a proven special teams monster for a seventh round pick, yeah,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna doubt you not anymore.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: John.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: All Right, let's talk about something a little more impactful.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: Our quarterback Sam Darnold. He is coming off the best season,
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: obviously of his career. Now, he had coming off the
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: best season of his career of the year before too,
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: So we're looking at back to back seasons, back to
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: back years of monstrous improvement, and this year it manifested
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: itself in leading a team to a Super Bowl title.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: As we all know well, Matt Hasselback was on with
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: us at eight o'clock and Matt Hasselback obviously different paths
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: to the NFL.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: One was the third pick over all.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: The other was completely undrafted, and so there was going
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: to have to be more proving that Matt was going
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: to have to do. He was going to have to
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: be in the shadows, lurking behind Brett Farv and others
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: to finally get his chance. And yet what they both
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: did get to experience at about the same age in
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: their careers was a breakthrough season. Now, maybe Sam had
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: his last year with the Minnesota Vikings, but he still
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: had all sorts of crazy doubt placed on him all
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: the way up to the Super Bowl.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: For gonna say he still has it.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone thought it was yeah.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: And yet I think everybody can acknowledge that if the
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: previous year wasn't a breakthrough year, certainly last year, Super
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: Bowl champion quarterback Sam Donald certainly experienced a breakthrough season.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: He now knows he belongs. There's no doubt I'm one
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: of the guys in this league. Rank me wherever you want,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: But in Sam's mind and in his heart, he knows
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: I'm one of the dudes.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: Just as Matt.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: Hasselback had a season I think it was two thousand
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: and three where he broke through and got to go
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: into his first off season knowing without a doubt I'm
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: one of those dudes. And so I talked to Matt
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: at eight o'clock today. I asked him about when you
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: came off of your breakthrough season, as Sam is coming
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: off his breakthrough season, what was your off season like?
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: Did you have to fight complacency that off season or
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: did you get even hungrier about proving everybody wrong.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: Here's what had to say, Well, it.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 9: Reminds you know, I had a conversation with Sam last
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 9: year around this time, and you know, it was a
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 9: little bit about the fact that he just really wasn't
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 9: getting the respect that I thought he deserved after the
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 9: year that he had in Minnesota. He had an incredible year,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 9: and you know, all anybody wanted to talk about were
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 9: his failures with the New York Jets or with the
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 9: Carolina Panthers, or how he was only a backup of
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 9: the forty nine ers, and and how his one year
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 9: in Minnesota was kind of a fluke. And you know,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 9: what we talked about a little bit was some of
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 9: the some of the tougher spots in my first four
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 9: years of the NFL, Like it was just it was hard,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 9: Like there were some things like getting you know, getting trash,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 9: you know, getting basically trashed in the.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 8: Media or boot out of a stadium or you know.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 9: And I think he kind of took this approach like, man,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 9: I didn't even know that, you know, Like I think
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 9: he was twenty seven years old at the time. He's like,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 9: I didn't know that about you. Like all I remember
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 9: was this version of you right in Seattle, Like I
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 9: don't remember that. And so I think we kind of
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 9: bonded over that, like the hard times, like the scabs,
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 9: the wounds that he had sort of experienced early. But
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 9: to answer your question, to see what he's done since
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 9: he won the Super Bowl, it's been completely different than
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 9: what other Super Bowl winning quarterbacks have done. Almost all
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 9: of them have taken like this victory lap during their offseason.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 9: You see him at the Kentucky Derby all decked out.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 9: You see him at the met Gala, You see him
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 9: at all this stuff that quite honestly has nothing to
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 9: do with running it back or running it forward, as
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 9: Mike McDonald said yesterday, has nothing to do with it.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 9: What he has chosen to do is exactly what he
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 9: did last year and kind of be all about the work.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 8: Getting away.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 9: And not doing it necessarily in the spotlight.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 8: Now.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 9: I know he's also getting married this summer and stuff
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 9: like that, but that can almost stuff like that can
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 9: almost be the absolute best thing for you when you
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 9: kind of step away and recharge, and it's not necessarily
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 9: about football. It's this major life event you're getting married
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 9: and all that stuff, but it's not about all the
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 9: things that are distractions. You see some guys come back
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 9: ten pounds heavier. You see some guys come back lighter,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 9: look like they haven't put the work into the weight room.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 9: I don't think his off season has been like that
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 9: at all. And if yesterday is any indication from the
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 9: footage that I saw, he looked sharp, and so I
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  Speaker 9: think that the combination of the off season that he
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  Speaker 9: had in the disrespect that he still gets. There were
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  Speaker 9: two major national publications that came out this week ranking
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  Speaker 9: starting NFL quarterbacks. I believe two of them had him
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  Speaker 9: outside of the top fifteen. I think in one he
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  Speaker 9: was nineteenth overall and one he was seventeenth overall. So
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  Speaker 9: I think that chip on his shoulder it's not going away.
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  Speaker 3: Isn't that something?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: That just prove though.
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  Speaker 1: The way he finished that statement was we're such in
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  Speaker 1: a world now where we get locked in on our
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  Speaker 1: opinion and we go so far with it that once
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  Speaker 1: and I believe I'm not this way as a professional
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  Speaker 1: talk show host. If I am, you know, maybe I've
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  Speaker 1: got some more stuff to work on. Maybe somebody's got
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  Speaker 1: to point it out to me. But I think so
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  Speaker 1: many people in life, certainly when you think about politically,
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  Speaker 1: but even in now now that we have social media
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  Speaker 1: and now we have all these podcasts and now we
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  Speaker 1: have these talking head shows, that they go so far
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  Speaker 1: in on something that they just can't allow themselves to say,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I was wrong on Sam Donald.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's way too hard for them to do.
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  Speaker 3: They just can't do it.
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  Speaker 1: And how stubborn do you have to be after what
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  Speaker 1: Sam Donald did two years ago in Minnesota and then
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  Speaker 1: showed you because what were the criticisms?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I put up the stats, But in the
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  Speaker 3: big games, is he going to be able to come through?
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  Speaker 8: Well?
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  Speaker 1: He played the biggest games you could possibly play in
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  Speaker 1: the sport of football last year and pretty much aced
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: them down the stretch in different ways. I mean, he
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  Speaker 1: carried us completely to one of those playoff wins, and
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  Speaker 1: then another game he played kind of his role and
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  Speaker 1: let ken Walker do his thing, and then you know
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of a combo in the Super Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: which we really didn't need anybody because our defense was
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: so smothering in that contest. But all right, so you
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  Speaker 1: said he couldn't do this, and then he did it,
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  Speaker 1: and then he said, yeah, but he couldn't do this,
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  Speaker 1: and then he does it, and yet people still want
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  Speaker 1: to put.
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  Speaker 3: Together their lists and not give him proper respect.
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  Speaker 1: So when we were saying he can win the super Bowl,
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  Speaker 1: and we were joking, but people will go across the country.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a fluke. Can he do it again?
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  Speaker 3: That seems to be what a lot of the mindset
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  Speaker 3: is out there.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like it would just be on him to win
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  Speaker 2: it again.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not putting that on everybody.
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  Speaker 1: I think some people have certainly come around a little
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  Speaker 1: bit and kind of adjusted their opinion, or maybe he
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  Speaker 1: did show them more and so they can at least
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  Speaker 1: acknowledge that I was right about criticizing him before.
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  Speaker 3: But obviously I don't have much of the the leg
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 3: to stand on anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I think he maybe he's had that impact on some people,
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  Speaker 1: but there are clearly if Matt Hasselbeck's going to reference
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  Speaker 1: a couple of lists, and maybe we just give too
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  Speaker 1: much credit to things that stand out to us. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: these lists we should just if they were too ply,
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  Speaker 1: we would wipe our butt with him, to quote Johnny Carson,
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  Speaker 1: and so maybe we're giving too much credence to it.
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  Speaker 1: But obviously there are enough people, and as we get
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: closer to football season, I'm sure we're gonna have these
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: conversations that have been wrong, dead wrong, completely embarrassingly wrong,
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  Speaker 1: and yet they've gone so far in saying Sam Darnold's
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: not legitimate.
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  Speaker 2: They're just going to stick to it no matter what
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  Speaker 2: happens going forward.
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  Speaker 5: And I don't understand that, because you just make yourself
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  Speaker 5: look like more of a fool than if you say, hey,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 5: I was wrong and then and then at that point too,
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  Speaker 5: people learn to to appreciate the fact that you're going
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  Speaker 5: to go out there with your opinion but or your thoughts,
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  Speaker 5: but if you're wrong, you're gonna come back and say, hey,
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  Speaker 5: all right, I tried, didn't work.
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  Speaker 2: I was wrong. Kudos to him.
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  Speaker 1: Wrong all the time in the in the in this world,
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  Speaker 1: like we have to give our opinion all the time.
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  Speaker 1: So I think it's I think it's great to say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to get it all right, I was wrong,
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  Speaker 1: and that I was dead wrong, and I'm you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll adjust my opinions on it.
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  Speaker 2: And yet I think we're in.
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  Speaker 1: A world where nobody, not nobody, but fewer and fewer
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  Speaker 1: people seem to be able to do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it is hard for a lot of people,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't quite understand it.
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  Speaker 3: And I think it's because they go so far the
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  Speaker 3: other way.
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  Speaker 1: They go so far in like I'm all in on
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  Speaker 1: trashing Sam Donald and they got no chips left. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so as they walk away from the table, are they
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: going to give Sam Donald credit?
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  Speaker 3: No, They're going to bemoan him.
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  Speaker 2: You're lucky. Yeah, that was a fluke. Can he win
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  Speaker 2: a big game? Okay? Well yeah, so he won three
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: big games, but Cody win another one.
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  Speaker 3: I lost all my money on that.
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  Speaker 1: And yet I'm still gonna belly ache about because now
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: I'm angry because now he's made me look foolish. So
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: now I got to double down on it. And I
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: think the worst part, just to close out the conversation,
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  Speaker 1: is that at some point this upcoming season and it
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: will happen more than once. Sam Darn's gonna have an
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: off game or two, might even have them back to back,
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  Speaker 1: and those same people we'll be back in our lives.
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  Speaker 5: See well, and when they play the Rams again, the
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 5: four interception or four turnover game definitely gonna be brought up.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Super Bowl Championship. See yeah, isn't enough.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's never gonna end, all right. One last things
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