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The Bolt Report | 11 August · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: Jesus is the reform.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight, Anthony Alberinezi digs himself a bigger hole over his
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  Speaker 2: sexist joke about Japan's Prime Minister. Donald Trump, limits vaccinations,
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  Speaker 2: repeating a hoax claim about links to autism, and should
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  Speaker 2: shop signs include English. One Council now says oh yes,
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  Speaker 2: plenty more today in including Victorian Opposition leader Jess Wilson
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  Speaker 2: and Matt Canavan. But first, the news today tells us
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  Speaker 2: it is time to hold these scare mongers accountable. We
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  Speaker 2: can't let them get away again with these fake climate
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  Speaker 2: scares that a panic destrounds into wasting hundreds of billions
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  Speaker 2: of dollars to save us from a fake climate catastrophe.
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  Speaker 2: Now there are two fake scares above all that these
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  Speaker 2: scare mongers have pedaled to terrify Australians. And the first,
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  Speaker 2: of course, was this famous one from a mammal expert,
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  Speaker 2: Tim Flannery. The Gillard labour covered then rewarded by making
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  Speaker 2: him our first climate commissioner.
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  Speaker 3: Even the rain of falls isn't actually going to fill
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  Speaker 3: our dams and our river system.
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  Speaker 2: No, you've seen the floods and full dams since then
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  Speaker 2: that have shown how unbelievably wrong.
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  Speaker 1: That was.
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  Speaker 2: But the other big scare, and I think this one
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  Speaker 2: was made more often, was the one that Labor Prime
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  Speaker 2: Minister Julia Gillard at the time used to explain why
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  Speaker 2: she was going to make us pay a carbon tax.
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  Speaker 4: We know that our planet is warming, meaning that great
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  Speaker 4: icons like the Great Barrier Reef are at risk.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so we've heard that's so often ever since,
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  Speaker 2: you know, pay the climate taxes.
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  Speaker 1: Or that Great Barrier Reef gets it. I mean, what a.
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  Speaker 2: Con How often have you know climb to scaremongers treated
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  Speaker 2: the reef as their hostage. I mean, you could just
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  Speaker 2: go back twenty six years in Australia's chief reef threatener,
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  Speaker 2: Professor of Hulgilberg, who I've wrestled with for years, claimed
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  Speaker 2: the Great Barrier Reef faced the structure within the next century,
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  Speaker 2: and that, of course has been the story of a sense.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, the Australian Institute for Marine Science claimed in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twelve that half the Great Barrier Reef would be
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  Speaker 2: gone in under thirty years. But then Australian Academy of
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  Speaker 2: Science researchers trump even that just five years ago. Her
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  Speaker 2: Gildberg was part of that too, claiming that up to
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  Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of Australia's Great Barrier Reef could be
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  Speaker 2: wiped out by twenty twenty five, like you know last year,
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  Speaker 2: and of course David Attenborough happily, happily flogged the scare
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  Speaker 2: as well.
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  Speaker 5: We're heading for the future in which the Great Battery
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  Speaker 5: Reef is a coral graveyard.
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  Speaker 1: A coral graveyard by now by last year. I make
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  Speaker 1: no dear because how embarrassing.
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  Speaker 2: The same Australian student marine science this week admits that actually,
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  Speaker 2: far from the Great Berry Reef being wiped out already,
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  Speaker 2: it is a near record coral cover, near record.
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  Speaker 1: How wrong can you get?
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  Speaker 2: Their findings were used by a scientists on the interview
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  Speaker 2: in a second to produce this telegraphic you've seen, But
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  Speaker 2: even after twenty six years of alarm has been proved
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  Speaker 2: wrong like that. This is how this good news was
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  Speaker 2: written up. Coral returns to the Great Berry Reef. But
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  Speaker 2: risks remain. Let me risks remain what risks? I mean
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  Speaker 2: the risk of climate crusade. It is yet again telling
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  Speaker 2: us to pay billions of dollars for mad climate policies, or.
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  Speaker 1: You get the drill. You know, the reef will die.
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  Speaker 2: If you think I'm being too hard on these experts,
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  Speaker 2: bear two things in mind. One the shocking costs of
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  Speaker 2: all the climate schemes we've been panicked into funding.
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  Speaker 1: Hundreds of billions of dollars.
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  Speaker 2: And two, these scaremongers who did all that get showered
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  Speaker 2: with prizes and government funding, fawning ABC coverage, while the
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  Speaker 2: professor who called out their alarmism years ago was sacked
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  Speaker 2: for not being collegiate. That man was doctor Peter ridd,
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  Speaker 2: a marine physicists, the former head of physics at James
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  Speaker 2: Cook University. I mean, seriously, what a world when the
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  Speaker 2: man who was right must pay and the people who
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  Speaker 2: were wrong and frightened the whole country they prosper.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me.
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  Speaker 2: Here's that professor who was sacked after calling out the
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  Speaker 2: great barrier reef scared, doctor Peter riv Peter, always great
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  Speaker 2: to see you, and it's always the same thing whenever
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  Speaker 2: I talk to you. Yet more evidence that you were
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  Speaker 2: right and they were wrong. These the latest reef results,
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  Speaker 2: what do they show you?
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  Speaker 6: They show obviously that the reef is in wonderful condition. Yes,
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  Speaker 6: it goes through ups and downs, as that graph shows,
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  Speaker 6: but at the moment, it's in wonderful condition, more coral
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  Speaker 6: in the last six years than any of the previous
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  Speaker 6: thirty five years since records began. But it also shows
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  Speaker 6: that our science institutions are basically untrustworthy. We've had over
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  Speaker 6: sixty years of great Bayry doomism, and.
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  Speaker 1: Really, what's this got.
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  Speaker 6: What this shows us is that we've got to actually
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  Speaker 6: start to hold the institutions to account. We've actually got
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  Speaker 6: to start to do something about this. That one of
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  Speaker 6: the things that you haven't mentioned is that yes, there's
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  Speaker 6: a whole lot of you know, I reckon, probably three
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  Speaker 6: to four hundred million dollars a year is sent is
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  Speaker 6: spent to save the reef. But at a lower level
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  Speaker 6: that people don't notice is that all the farmers up
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  Speaker 6: and down this coast have all these crazy regulations slapped
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  Speaker 6: on them, and we've been working to try to actually
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  Speaker 6: get these removed or at least to check the science
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  Speaker 6: behind some of those regulations. And I can talk to
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  Speaker 6: you about how well that is going with a Liberal
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  Speaker 6: National Party government, which we have in Queensland at the moment.
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  Speaker 6: But basically what has to be done now is that
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  Speaker 6: it is quite clear that the science institutions have got
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  Speaker 6: it wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, and we've now got to
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  Speaker 6: hold them to account and fix up the regulations that
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  Speaker 6: are being based on that bad science.
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  Speaker 2: Yes see, farmers of course based restrictions on nutrient runoff
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  Speaker 2: and all that kind of thing was also supposedly destroying
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  Speaker 2: the reef. Listen, is there much danger from man made
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  Speaker 2: warming to the reef?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 1: Really there isn't.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, the best coral on earth, the most verse
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  Speaker 6: coral on Earth, is actually in Papua New Guinea and
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  Speaker 6: Indonesia in a place they call the Coral Triangle. It
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  Speaker 6: has another name, which is the Indo Pacific warm Pool
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  Speaker 6: because it's the warmest water on Earth and that's where
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  Speaker 6: the coraal is most diverse and it grows the fastest.
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  Speaker 6: So if anything, coral are going to do very well.
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  Speaker 6: But one of the things that really disappoints me. I
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  Speaker 6: get grumpy with those science institutions pushing out all these
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  Speaker 6: doomism but I kind of expect it. But what has
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  Speaker 6: really disappointed me is that we've been trying to with
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  Speaker 6: some agricultural organizations to get this science checked and the
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  Speaker 6: Chrysopholly government has told us basically no, they will not
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  Speaker 6: check any of this science, and you know, to check
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  Speaker 6: it would only cost a few hundred thousand dollars within
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  Speaker 6: the new Queens and Productivity Commission.
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  Speaker 1: This is at the state level.
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  Speaker 6: The Chrysopholly government, a liberal national government, said no, they
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  Speaker 6: will not do that, and then they gave another three
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  Speaker 6: hundred million dollars to exactly the science institutions that have
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  Speaker 6: been giving us this dross for so long. So I'm
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  Speaker 6: actually at a stage now where I'm really tired of
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  Speaker 6: a liberal National Party government doing absolutely nothing. Now at
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  Speaker 6: the federal level, you've got people like Matt Canavan who
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  Speaker 6: are right behind I think that, you know, checking the science.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know where Angus Taylor is. But at the
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  Speaker 6: state level, the chrysophully government has effectively nurtured labor laws,
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  Speaker 6: nurtured labor funded organizations to make regulations that is smashing
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  Speaker 6: our farmers based on unchecked science. And this is where
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  Speaker 6: something is going to need to be done. And We're
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  Speaker 6: going to actually be looking at all the parties at
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  Speaker 6: the federal level and even one nation to ask will
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  Speaker 6: they support check the science? Will we be able to
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  Speaker 6: do something about this chrystophillity government that is doing nothing
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  Speaker 6: to solve this problem.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned met Canavan. He's going to be exactly
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  Speaker 2: my next guess. You'll ask him just that, Peter Ribb,
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  Speaker 2: thank you very much. Indeed, the Prime Minister today just
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  Speaker 2: stuck himself even deeper into his latest sexism scandal. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't mean the one where he said you did
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  Speaker 2: like to shag Carl Minogue. I mean this one mocking
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  Speaker 2: Japan's Prime Minister so O Takeichi and a gift to
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  Speaker 2: him of one ceremonial melon, Albinizi turning it into a
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  Speaker 2: crass sexist joke.
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  Speaker 7: The Japanese Prime Minister brought a melon, got a couple
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  Speaker 7: of melons, got a couple of melons he brought to If.
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  Speaker 8: You do.
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  Speaker 1: Today?
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  Speaker 2: Albinizi was twice asked in Parliament if he apologized to
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  Speaker 2: take Ichi, and twice refused to do so.
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  Speaker 4: On the Deep Bush podcast filmed at the Lodge, the
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  Speaker 4: Prime Minister made a series of foul mouthed, classless comments
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  Speaker 4: about women. Will the Prime Minister personally apologize to the
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  Speaker 4: Prime Minister of Japan, Her Excellency Sanaa Takatchi for his
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  Speaker 4: disrespectful behaviors.
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  Speaker 1: Call to the Prime Minister Nanks.
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  Speaker 7: Mister speaker, I reject the assertion in the questions in
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  Speaker 7: Australia and.
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  Speaker 1: Japan have never been closer or more strategical life pathetical.
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  Speaker 2: Though I should add Mary Aldred, if you're going to
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  Speaker 2: talk about disrespect to the Prime Minister of Japan by
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  Speaker 2: our prime minister, perhaps you should learn how to pronounce
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  Speaker 2: her name. But anyway, Meanwhile, at Taki Chi confidant former
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  Speaker 2: Ambassador Shingo Yamagami poured on the pressure today on News
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  Speaker 2: twenty four, making clear the damage Albaniz he had done,
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  Speaker 2: including on Japanese social media.
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  Speaker 9: If you take a close look at you know what's
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  Speaker 9: being said on Japanese sns subtlely, you know this has
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  Speaker 9: made an impact or no otherwise or special strategic partnership
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  Speaker 9: does Prime Minister or Albanesi, Old Japanese or napolge. It's
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  Speaker 9: up to Prime Minister of Australia to decide.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: As I said last night, Albanzi yesterday defended himself by
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  Speaker 2: releasing a note that the Japanese government sent him four
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  Speaker 2: weeks ago, saying it realized this joke was a dial intention.
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  Speaker 2: It's not going to take any action. A very classy
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  Speaker 2: peace offering. But today it seems that Japanese were surprised
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  Speaker 2: that Albanesi has now made this private face saver public
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  Speaker 2: and even in self justification. The Nightly reports of senior
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  Speaker 2: Japanese official, speaking on the condition of anonymity given the
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  Speaker 2: sensitivity of the matter, confirmed to the Nightly that they
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  Speaker 2: were surprised that the letter emerged publicly in Australia. So
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  Speaker 2: it seems Abani has just made things worse with Japan.
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  Speaker 2: But what doesn't surprise me is that Albanese's Minister for Women,
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  Speaker 2: Katie Gallagher, one of the government's so called mean girls,
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  Speaker 2: today actually defended his sexism.
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  Speaker 10: The comments and the remarks in the Prime Minister have
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  Speaker 10: been misinterpreted. The Prime Minister is very clear that he
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  Speaker 10: did not mean for those comments to be interpreted the
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  Speaker 10: way they have by some media outlets and by our
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  Speaker 10: political opponents.
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  Speaker 1: Got it with a straight face. It's remarkable.
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  Speaker 2: Join him is our Tuesday regular Senator Matt Canavan, now
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  Speaker 2: the leader of the Nationals. Matt, I should ALBINIZI apologize
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  Speaker 2: to Japan's Prime minister.
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  Speaker 1: I think he has to do more than that.
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  Speaker 3: Andrew, I think a public apology now simply after some
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  Speaker 3: pressure on him to do so might not look hard
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  Speaker 3: felt and look a bit insincere just to get him
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  Speaker 3: out of a bind.
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  Speaker 1: I think former.
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  Speaker 3: Ambassador Shinoamagami's proposal there that he's put would make more sense.
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  Speaker 3: And if there's not time and the Prime ministers to
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  Speaker 3: travel to Japan, a simple phone call could easily be arranged, surely,
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  Speaker 3: because I particularly think after the release of this private correspondence,
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  Speaker 3: to get the PM out of a jam, he needs
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  Speaker 3: to clean this mess up. It's not pretty, it's not great,
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  Speaker 3: given the close relationship we've had with Japan. I don't
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  Speaker 3: agree with the Prime Minister that somehow it's never been
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  Speaker 3: better this relationship. The Labor Party seems to think everything's
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  Speaker 3: never been better. First home Bia, it's never had a
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  Speaker 3: better the economy has never been better, wages have never
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  Speaker 3: been better. I think they're wrong about all those things,
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  Speaker 3: and they're also wrong about this relationship because I know
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  Speaker 3: speaking to lots of my Japanese colleagues and counterparts, that
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  Speaker 3: they are very concerned that as a country we're not
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  Speaker 3: as reliable anymore on things like energy because of our
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  Speaker 3: craziness on net zero and renewables.
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  Speaker 1: They rely on us for their edgy.
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  Speaker 3: They've been very good customers of ours for a long time,
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  Speaker 3: but we're threatening that because we're not focused on producing
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  Speaker 3: energy more. We're focused on paying tribute to global idols
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  Speaker 3: that just make us poorer as a nation.
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  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of that, talking about getting poorer, Matt, we're
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  Speaker 2: already paying one hundred and fifty million dollars for NJI
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  Speaker 2: Minister Chris Bowe to be President of Negotiations or presidente
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  Speaker 2: for the noted nations next big climate conference. Channel seven
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  Speaker 2: to Night reports that is now going to pay another
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  Speaker 2: twenty million dollars has put it on our tad for
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  Speaker 2: a pre conference conference he wanted in Fiji. Now he
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  Speaker 2: had invaded top world leaders like the heads of Britain,
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  Speaker 2: France and Japan, and strangely enough none of them want
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  Speaker 2: to come. They got better things to do than hobnob
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  Speaker 2: with Bowen in Fiji. So it's paying the lot himself
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  Speaker 2: or we are. Sounds like an awful waste, Matt.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 3: I said before we bid for the Climate Jamboree last
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  Speaker 3: year that this risk being voice two point zero, And
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  Speaker 3: after we lost our bid to host the big show,
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  Speaker 3: I thought, well, maybe we've dodged aboard and it won't
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  Speaker 3: cost us that much, but Chris Bowen's still trying to
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  Speaker 3: reach the same cost almost is what the Climate Voice
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  Speaker 3: referendum meant. I mean, we're in the middle of a
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  Speaker 3: cost of living crisis right now. People are struggling to
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  Speaker 3: pay their power bills. The cost of everything is going
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  Speaker 3: through the roof interest rates in this country, or the
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  Speaker 3: interest rates on government debt of the highest in the
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  Speaker 3: developed world. That's flowing through to mortgage rates. People just
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  Speaker 3: can't afford basic things. Yet this government's wasting now over
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  Speaker 3: one hundred million dollars your money, another twenty million dollars
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  Speaker 3: announced today on a bunch of climate conferences that allow
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  Speaker 3: lots of officials around the world to live it up
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  Speaker 3: in five star accommodation, traveling luxury to these beautiful locations.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it seems like the only reason they're very
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  Speaker 3: concerned about the Pacific is it's a great way to
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  Speaker 3: come and stay when it's pretty cold in northern Europe
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  Speaker 3: and America. I just think this should be scrapped. It
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  Speaker 3: is not doing anything to protect the environment. It's just
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  Speaker 3: costing austrain and tax payers money. Why are we doing
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  Speaker 3: this rubbish now?
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  Speaker 2: Before I got to you, Maadow was talking to doctor
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  Speaker 2: Peter ridd about the Great Berry Reef near record coral cover.
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  Speaker 2: A big surprise is very upset that is not getting
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  Speaker 2: political backing for a campaign called check the Science of
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  Speaker 2: all this, all these measures, particularly hitting farmers, they're restrictions
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  Speaker 2: on runoff along the Queensland coast. Do you back a
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  Speaker 2: check the science move to see just what are we
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  Speaker 2: paying hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars
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  Speaker 2: for to save the reef?
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  Speaker 1: What are we getting out of this?
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  Speaker 11: Look?
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  Speaker 3: I absolutely do, Edrew, because that's what science should be about.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you should always be checking the science. That's
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  Speaker 3: the basic principle of the scientific method that nothing has
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  Speaker 3: ever completely proven. There's hypotheses that haven't been disproven, and
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  Speaker 3: the way we advance scientific knowledge just to constantly check
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  Speaker 3: those hypotheses against their predictions. I fear that we've stopped
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  Speaker 3: doing that in a range of areas because they can
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  Speaker 3: the so called scientific consensus is there to help keep
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  Speaker 3: a whole lot of money coming into particular areas, not
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  Speaker 3: actually to advanced human knowledge. Absolutely, we should check the science.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, what we really need is accountability. There's got
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  Speaker 3: to be public accountability because as you've played tonight, so
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  Speaker 3: whole show, have your whole show on people saying the
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  Speaker 3: grape barrier is going to die and we're all going
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  Speaker 3: to be ruined. So everyone's hand or hand in this sector.
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  Speaker 3: They've all proven to be wrong. So where is the
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  Speaker 3: accountability someone Matto account Yeah, you're so right.
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  Speaker 2: Predictions I had a list of I had a list
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  Speaker 2: of ten other form of predictions about the death of
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  Speaker 2: the reef. I had to come to the best. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: unbelievable how that's been exploited. Matt Canavan, thank you very much,
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  Speaker 2: indeed for your time. After the break victorianopositionally there Jess Wilson.
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  Speaker 2: Jess Wilson is the woman who's got to say Victoria
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  Speaker 2: from the worst govern ever to destroy that state. And
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  Speaker 2: if she's ultra cautious, who can blame her big responsibility?
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  Speaker 1: Plus she last.
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  Speaker 2: And i've ever he became the youngest Liberal leader at
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  Speaker 2: just thirty five. Only one leader before it was even younger,
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  Speaker 2: Jeff Kenned at thirty four, and he was a very
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  Speaker 2: different character, more free wheeling. But Wilson is She's a lawyer,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: former staffer and then federal treasurer. Just Freedenberg demonstrates the
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  Speaker 2: dilemma faced by every leader in this gotcha age.
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  Speaker 1: Do you react to.
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  Speaker 2: Questions by being quite human, informal, relatable, and risk making
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  Speaker 2: mistake or do you go ultrascripted, less likely to make
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  Speaker 2: a mistake but then be seen as robotic. And so
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  Speaker 2: far Wilson has gone robotic, shown incredible discipline, selling slogans, policies,
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  Speaker 2: not a self very impressive in this way, but it
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  Speaker 2: seems to be working for it. But the price is
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  Speaker 2: being you don't get the warmth. Now give you a
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  Speaker 2: strange example. I was asked by her staff to say
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  Speaker 2: what topics would discussed the night, and I said, well,
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  Speaker 2: your father might be one. He was himself a state politician.
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  Speaker 2: What did you learn from him? Oh, you can't ask that.
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  Speaker 2: If you do, she'll probably call this off. Her office said,
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  Speaker 2: she's her own person. That's strange, and I wasn't putting
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  Speaker 2: up with that. And as it turned out, the interview
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  Speaker 2: did go hit, as you'll see, and Wilson already had
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  Speaker 2: a political lines about a father prepared even before I
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  Speaker 2: asked my question. No, I know that Wilson is not
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: there to charm, but to win and to fix a
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: state that labor has left in terrible debt about to
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: hit two hundred billion dollars. But I must say her
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: policies are equally extremely cautious, like backing the labor governments
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: planned legislation make working from home of rape law. Years
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: are screaming blue murder about it, and when even new
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Premier Ben Carroll was today asking for more time after
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: all to consult.
• 20:08
  Speaker 8: I want to be very clear. I support work from home.
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: I support flexible work. It is good for working families equally,
• 20:16
  Speaker 8: though we need to make sure that our economy everyone
• 20:20
  Speaker 8: knows it's a partnership between working families and the business
• 20:24
  Speaker 8: community and the government.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, leave it till after the election. Yeah, it's smart now.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Carol's a bit of an automatum self, as you saw then.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: So maybe that's the kind of politicians we must expect now.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Although I've got to say, you know, Paul and Hansen, Barnaby, Joyce,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: new Southwest Premier Chris Means, I think they show how
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: it can be done differently.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: You can be human anyway.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: That's the back story to the interview I record a
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: few hours ago with Jess Wilson to learn something about
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: the woman promising to say, Victorian Jess Wilson, thank you
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: so much for joining me. I've got to start with
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: a great you know, the government, this government has left
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: the state so broke that our roads pothold like I've
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: never seen. Sinsay last was in India. My wife just
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: burst four tars in two years. One pothole yesterday is
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: you probably know, took out forty.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Cars on the Princess Highway.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: Now what amazes me is that you're standing there because
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: you've just finished going around every electorate in Victoria. Tell
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: me how many tars did you lose on that voyage.
• 21:27
  Speaker 11: Well, it's great to be with you, Andrew, and your
• 21:30
  Speaker 11: spot on the neglect of Victoria's roads under this labor
• 21:33
  Speaker 11: government is an utter disgrace, and we're hearing every day
• 21:38
  Speaker 11: about these craters in the middle of our roads that
• 21:41
  Speaker 11: are meeting the Victorians are less safe. But to your point,
• 21:44
  Speaker 11: they're busting their tires, they're busting their rims, and that's
• 21:47
  Speaker 11: costing them thousands of dollars at a time they can
• 21:50
  Speaker 11: least afford it. I've spent the past couple of weeks
• 21:54
  Speaker 11: on the road, traveling around and visiting every electorate in Victoria,
• 21:57
  Speaker 11: all eighty eight, and I was dodging potholes like everybody else.
• 22:02
  Speaker 11: We're going up the Hume one afternoon and there were
• 22:05
  Speaker 11: craters in the middle of our major highway, and there
• 22:08
  Speaker 11: were six or seven cars on the side of the
• 22:10
  Speaker 11: road changing tires. Because this government has mismanaged the books
• 22:14
  Speaker 11: for a decade and now we're paying the price through
• 22:17
  Speaker 11: unsafe roads and roads littered with potholes.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Well, if the answer is you didn't burst the tarre,
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: I think you should pay that driver a little raise
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: for being a bit of a fangio. Oh that's a
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: dated reference to the formula one.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Jess what amazes Meal? Just will so?
• 22:34
  Speaker 11: Can I say, Andrew how important it is that we
• 22:39
  Speaker 11: I was just going to say how important it is
• 22:40
  Speaker 11: that we actually fix the roads. It's easy to complain
• 22:43
  Speaker 11: about them, but we've got to plan a five billion
• 22:45
  Speaker 11: dollar plan to repair and rebuild our roads, eliminating one
• 22:49
  Speaker 11: million potholes, but actually doing the work to do the
• 22:52
  Speaker 11: preventative maintenance, make sure that the taxpayer dollar is going
• 22:56
  Speaker 11: further and repairing our roads properly so that they're safe
• 22:59
  Speaker 11: to drive on. For Victoria, it's getting the basics right
• 23:01
  Speaker 11: in this state.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Oh good political messaging there, which brings me to this.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Though you're only thirty six, When I was thirty six,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't have put me in charge of a kindergarten,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: let alone the state.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: So I'm very impressed.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: And now that you've got a good shot at saving
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Victoria for the most disastrous government I've ever witnessed, how
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: overwhelmed did you feel when you first got this job.
• 23:25
  Speaker 11: Well, when I put up my hand, I had a
• 23:27
  Speaker 11: clear sense of purpose about why I wanted to take
• 23:30
  Speaker 11: on the leader of the Liberal Party and the leader
• 23:32
  Speaker 11: of the opposition. Here in Victoria. The state is on
• 23:35
  Speaker 11: its knees. It is broken, whether it's the record levels
• 23:38
  Speaker 11: of debt, the record levels of crime, the fact it
• 23:41
  Speaker 11: takes longer to get an ambulance today than it did
• 23:44
  Speaker 11: a decade ago, or that more basic sense of malaise
• 23:48
  Speaker 11: and pessimism that has come over Victoria under this Labor government,
• 23:51
  Speaker 11: that lack of hope here and the reason I put
• 23:54
  Speaker 11: up my hand, Andrew, is because I had a plan.
• 23:57
  Speaker 11: I had a plan to fix it. I had a
• 23:58
  Speaker 11: sense of what my priority would be and how important
• 24:01
  Speaker 11: it is in coming to the leadership to actually make
• 24:04
  Speaker 11: sure that you have that sense of purpose. You know
• 24:07
  Speaker 11: what you want to do, and you set out that
• 24:09
  Speaker 11: strategy and that plan and you follow it every single day. Now,
• 24:13
  Speaker 11: leadership isn't easy. Being the leader of the opposition certainly
• 24:17
  Speaker 11: isn't easy. But I have this view that it shouldn't
• 24:19
  Speaker 11: be easy becoming the premier seeking to govern this state.
• 24:24
  Speaker 11: It should be hard. You should have to work for it.
• 24:26
  Speaker 11: You should have to demonstrate that you have the plan
• 24:28
  Speaker 11: and you have the solutions, and you should have to
• 24:30
  Speaker 11: earn the trust of Victorian's But I put up my
• 24:33
  Speaker 11: hand because I know that we can do this. But
• 24:35
  Speaker 11: more importantly, we must save Victoria. And I know I
• 24:39
  Speaker 11: have the plan, I have the team, and we are
• 24:41
  Speaker 11: ready to come to government this November and actually fix
• 24:44
  Speaker 11: Victoria if we are given that opportunity and that honor.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: But you see, it's quite interesting. I'm asking about Jess
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Wilson that I'm getting very tight political lines, and I've
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: been quite impressed by that. In a sense, I don't
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: deviate from that at all. And even for this interview,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: it's told not to talk to you even about your father,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: even though you said in your first speech, or your
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: father's daughter.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: And you hope to make him proud. Is this just
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: you being very disciplined? Is this how you tick?
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Or are you worried about making a mistake with so
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: much at stake?
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Because I get that well.
• 25:21
  Speaker 11: I know that I've got a job to do on
• 25:22
  Speaker 11: behalf of Victorian's and I get up every single day
• 25:25
  Speaker 11: in this state, Andrew, because I love Victoria. I'm doing
• 25:29
  Speaker 11: this because I'm a proud Victorian and it's not the
• 25:32
  Speaker 11: place that I grew up in it And you mentioned
• 25:34
  Speaker 11: my dad. My dad is someone I certainly look up
• 25:38
  Speaker 11: to and I admire because he did. He taught me
• 25:41
  Speaker 11: that value of hard work and how important it is
• 25:44
  Speaker 11: to have a strong work ethic. He taught me about
• 25:47
  Speaker 11: the contest of ideas and how important it is to
• 25:51
  Speaker 11: fight for what you believe in and to fight for
• 25:53
  Speaker 11: others as well. So I have that instilled in me
• 25:56
  Speaker 11: from a very young age. But then I'm a mum.
• 25:59
  Speaker 11: Now I've got a little boy who's nearly two years old,
• 26:02
  Speaker 11: and I want him to have every opportunity that I
• 26:05
  Speaker 11: had when I was growing up. I had a lovely
• 26:08
  Speaker 11: childhood here in Victoria. I remember it with a real
• 26:12
  Speaker 11: sense of Nostealgia for the you know, the late nineties,
• 26:14
  Speaker 11: the early two thousands here where it felt like this
• 26:16
  Speaker 11: state was operating on all cylinders and gave every kid
• 26:20
  Speaker 11: every opportunity. And I want my little boy to have
• 26:23
  Speaker 11: that again. And that's certainly what drives me every day
• 26:26
  Speaker 11: when I get up early and I come home late,
• 26:27
  Speaker 11: and sometimes you know, I don't get the opportunity to
• 26:30
  Speaker 11: see him or put him to bed. But I'm fighting
• 26:32
  Speaker 11: for his future and the future of young Victorians right
• 26:35
  Speaker 11: around this state, to fix this state and make sure
• 26:38
  Speaker 11: that it is a place once again where there's hope
• 26:40
  Speaker 11: and there's that sense of opportunity.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Oh you should see, honestly, the chalk and cheese between
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: the Victoria I came to, what is it more than
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: forty something years ago, and what it is now, honestly
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: is disgrace that it should be driven to this position.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: But the cause I'm talking about from you that I
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: see is even on policies now. I mean, the state
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: is so broke, right, but you said you won't even
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: sack public service. You're going to get numbers down by
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: just not replacing them, and more strength to that. But
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: can it Victoria afford to take it slow and cautious
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: after the utter devastation caused by this government.
• 27:19
  Speaker 11: We've been very upfront with Victorians that we're not going
• 27:22
  Speaker 11: to be able to fix everything overnight. Victoria faces immense challenges.
• 27:27
  Speaker 11: You know them well. The two hundred billion dollars worth
• 27:29
  Speaker 11: of debt in just a few years time, the fact
• 27:32
  Speaker 11: that we have record levels of crime, our roads that
• 27:34
  Speaker 11: are unsafe to drive on. And I will be honest
• 27:37
  Speaker 11: with Victorians, we can't fix all of that on day one,
• 27:40
  Speaker 11: but we can take the discipline. We can take the gradual,
• 27:43
  Speaker 11: the methodical decisions that will ensure that we fix the budget.
• 27:47
  Speaker 11: A hiring freeze on back office workers will save US
• 27:50
  Speaker 11: twenty two billion dollars over the next decade. Andrew and
• 27:54
  Speaker 11: ensure that we get the public service back in line
• 27:57
  Speaker 11: with population growth here in Victoria, because under labor it
• 28:00
  Speaker 11: has grown by sixty percent while our population has only
• 28:04
  Speaker 11: grown by nineteen percent. And that is not ensuring that
• 28:07
  Speaker 11: we have the frontline services that we desperately need, the police,
• 28:10
  Speaker 11: the ambos, the teachers, the nurses. So my focus is
• 28:14
  Speaker 11: how do we slow down the growth in the back
• 28:15
  Speaker 11: office and actually ensure we've put those savings and back
• 28:19
  Speaker 11: in our frontline and essential services, so the Victorians can
• 28:22
  Speaker 11: get the basics and they can get access to the
• 28:24
  Speaker 11: services that they need.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: No problem with that, And I know that once you've
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: got a massive public service, that's too many voters to
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: offend by going too hard. But I just wonder whether
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: we've got the time for cautious like that. Talking about caution.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: You've also said you're going to pass the government's legislation.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Making working from home a right. Now if.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I work from home, but you know that's between me
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: and the employer.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know about a right.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I know you want to make some changes in that
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: legislation the government's passing on. But how can you just
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: say I'll go along with that when employers are already
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: so burdened and so up in arms about this law.
• 29:07
  Speaker 11: Well, we've been working closely with business groups, with employers
• 29:10
  Speaker 11: on the amendments that we've put forward in the Parliament.
• 29:13
  Speaker 11: But what we've seen today is a government in chaos,
• 29:16
  Speaker 11: a government that has had many positions on this legislation
• 29:20
  Speaker 11: over the past few weeks, a new premier coming out
• 29:22
  Speaker 11: and saying that he was going to reconsider work from home,
• 29:25
  Speaker 11: and now today, pulling it even from being debated in
• 29:28
  Speaker 11: the Upper House. Absolute shambles here in the Parliament under
• 29:32
  Speaker 11: the Labor government. And you asked me before about when
• 29:34
  Speaker 11: I came to the leadership and when I was thinking
• 29:37
  Speaker 11: about what my protus would be, and what my focus
• 29:39
  Speaker 11: would be and what my purpose would be. But what
• 29:41
  Speaker 11: we've seen from Ben Carroll today is the very fact
• 29:45
  Speaker 11: that he was not ready. He was not up to
• 29:47
  Speaker 11: the job. He was not ready. And now we're seeing
• 29:49
  Speaker 11: the shambles of the parliament here with a government that
• 29:52
  Speaker 11: doesn't know what direction it's taking.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Jess Wilson, thank you so much for your time.
• 30:00
  Speaker 11: Thanks so much, Andrew.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: After the break, Donald Trump limits vaccinations that are used
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: here too, repeating a hoax claim about autism. Donald Trump
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: picked some wild people for his administration.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: One is his health Secretary of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Has now persuaded the presidents that limit vaccinations of children
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: and separate vaccinations of measles, mumps, and rubella instead of
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: giving the three in one shot that's also given to
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: children here. Maybe that's good, maybe it's not. But then
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Trump repeated the line long pushed by Kennedy against the
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: medical evidence that there was a link between vaccinations like
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: that and autism.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: Decades ago, children received only a small fraction of the
• 30:51
  Speaker 5: vaccines required today. In those times people were much healthy,
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: and of course the high rates of autism now observed
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: did not exist.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: This is just crazy and dangerous.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: I mean this conspiracy theory the vaccines caused autism and children.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: That made big headlines in nineteen ninety eight when the
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Lancet Medical Journal published a paper by thirteen doctors and
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: scientists making that link with the triple vaccine, but the
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: lead author, Andrew Wakefield, turned out to have cherry picked data.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Even fake data failed to disclose huge vested interests.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: The million dollars have been paid by lawyers, for instance.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: To prove that link, the fifty million dollars a year
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: expected to earn with his own diagnostic kit for the
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: fake syndrome he claimed to have discovered. From all this,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: ten of US co authors then retracted their support for
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: their own paper, which was then pulled by Lancet, and
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Wakefield was struck off as a doctor for falsifying evidence.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: But the damage was done.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Vaccination rates in Britain and the usfl meanses among children
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: rose and children died Wakefield, he just moved to America,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: still claiming innocence, and made a film promoting his discredited claims.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Widely and wildly discredited claims.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Robert Kennedy had already picked up on them, writing a
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: piece for the Rolling Stone magazine in two thousand and
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: five linking yes, mercury and child vaccination towarsism again. But
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: that article also had to be retracted because mercury in
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: the form of a themesiole had never actually been used
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: in child vaccinations and hadn't been used in any vaccinations
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: at all since two thousand and one. But now here's
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: the President of the United States breathing more life into
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: that deadly fake scare. I spoke earlier to my Tuesday
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: regular Sean Spicer, Donald Trump's first White House Press secretary,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Sewn Spicer. Great to see you again, Sean. What is
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: it with the president of vaccines? You know, I can
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: understand being skeptical about giving the COVID vaccine to children,
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: given the extremely.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Low risk of the virus to them, but.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Linking this to autism, I mean, who still believes in
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: that link?
• 33:08
  Speaker 12: Well, there's two things that I think the President announced
• 33:11
  Speaker 12: today they're important. One, and I got to be honest
• 33:14
  Speaker 12: with you, I don't know about Australia's vaccine schedule, but
• 33:16
  Speaker 12: and you look at a lot of other countries, they
• 33:18
  Speaker 12: don't jam them all in kids at once, which is
• 33:21
  Speaker 12: what they're doing here in the United States. Our schedule
• 33:24
  Speaker 12: is much more expansive than it is in many places.
• 33:27
  Speaker 12: Number Two, the timing of it early and all at
• 33:30
  Speaker 12: once is again not something that you see. And then
• 33:33
  Speaker 12: third though, just in terms of your question, look, I
• 33:37
  Speaker 12: worked for a boss early in the early two thousands
• 33:40
  Speaker 12: and was looking for these causal links between mercury and vaccines.
• 33:46
  Speaker 11: I don't know.
• 33:47
  Speaker 12: I'm not a doctor, I'm not a pharmaceutical executive. But
• 33:50
  Speaker 12: what I do know, and what I think the President
• 33:51
  Speaker 12: pointed out today that's interesting, is there is this massive
• 33:56
  Speaker 12: link about increase in autism, in particular when they start
• 34:00
  Speaker 12: to changing the schedule and what was in the vaccines,
• 34:02
  Speaker 12: particularly in the case of mercury. I think, Andrew, to
• 34:05
  Speaker 12: be honest with you, I'm shocked that people.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Don't want to look.
• 34:09
  Speaker 12: If you knew that this amount of autism was on
• 34:13
  Speaker 12: the rise and we weren't looking for causation, I think
• 34:16
  Speaker 12: that would be the male practice, now, don't. I'm not
• 34:19
  Speaker 12: one of those people because I don't have the scientific
• 34:23
  Speaker 12: background to claim that there is anything. What I do
• 34:26
  Speaker 12: know is that when you see jumps like the ones
• 34:29
  Speaker 12: that we've seen in this country, at least, I think
• 34:32
  Speaker 12: it makes sense for the government to start taking a
• 34:35
  Speaker 12: look at what's going on, what might be causing this.
• 34:38
  Speaker 12: I have no idea if it's vaccine related or not,
• 34:41
  Speaker 12: but I do know that it makes sense to look
• 34:43
  Speaker 12: at them. Considering the massive lobby that exists in our
• 34:47
  Speaker 12: pharmaceutical industry here in the United States, between the politicians
• 34:50
  Speaker 12: and the media. Everybody gets paid off by big pharma here,
• 34:53
  Speaker 12: and I think that to actually stop once in a while,
• 34:56
  Speaker 12: examine the science, examine the studies, and have the data
• 35:01
  Speaker 12: go where it goes is smart.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree here look into it.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: But as scientists have looked into it and said, this
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: is based on a ninety ninety eight paper that was
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: a fraud. The guy resigned is a fellow where researchers
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: quit just as themselves from the result. There was an
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: actual fraud. So they have looked. So that's not the
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: issue for me. But you know, I do accept that
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of skepticism about the medical profession after
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: some of the lies and exaggerations that were told in
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: the COVID debate.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I think that's a lot of what's fueling this. There's
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: some of that.
• 35:37
  Speaker 12: Look, I've been in the military twenty seven years.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: For a long time.
• 35:40
  Speaker 12: We were told to get the anthrax vaccine and don't worry,
• 35:43
  Speaker 12: it was safe, and then studies came out to say, well,
• 35:46
  Speaker 12: maybe not so much. There is a history in this
• 35:48
  Speaker 12: country of the government jabbing us with stuff or telling
• 35:52
  Speaker 12: us that it was okay and safe, and then finding
• 35:55
  Speaker 12: out retrospectively that that was not the case. We are
• 35:57
  Speaker 12: now finding out the tech messages from Anthony Fauci's phone
• 36:02
  Speaker 12: show that there was a much greater risk, especially for
• 36:05
  Speaker 12: pregnant women, than they ever alluded to during the pandemic. So, unfortunately,
• 36:11
  Speaker 12: our public health here in the United States has not
• 36:14
  Speaker 12: done us has not been transparent, it has not been truthful.
• 36:17
  Speaker 11: COVID wasn't the first.
• 36:18
  Speaker 12: Time, and more and more we find out about how
• 36:22
  Speaker 12: our government public health agencies have been corrupted by big money,
• 36:25
  Speaker 12: by big pharma, by big food.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Look I got that. I just hope that Robert F.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Kennedy Jr.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Has got a few kangaroos loose in the top paddock,
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: and I hope his latest conspiracy theory doesn't lead to
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: dead kids.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: That's my concern. Now, you and I.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Have talked before, Sean about how hard lift anti Israel
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: candidates from or close to the Democratic Socialists gaining power
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: in the Democratic Party itself. Boy, I have to tell
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: you it's not taking long to see how bad that
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: bad idea. This is the man who last week won
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: the Democratic nomination to be the Senator for Michigan. Abdula
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: al Sayid has been campaigning and working with had thet
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Islamists and podcaster Hassen Piker, who's six years ago said
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  Speaker 2: American deserved the September eleven terrorists attack that killed around
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: three thousand Americans.
• 37:22
  Speaker 11: Aias America deserved nine to eleven.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: Dude, And now here's that candidate al sayed last weekend,
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  Speaker 2: dismissing that, oh oh news, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, taken out of context.
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  Speaker 13: Whatever he is, you know, to sit here and play
• 37:37
  Speaker 13: gotcha politics with a dumb thing somebody said out of
• 37:41
  Speaker 13: contact that they just allowed themselves to say, oh, well,
• 37:43
  Speaker 13: what does that mean about what you think? I want
• 37:45
  Speaker 13: to be held accountable for what I say and what
• 37:47
  Speaker 13: I do, rather than this idea that we've we're so
• 37:50
  Speaker 13: stuck in cancel culture that all of us agreed was
• 37:52
  Speaker 13: a bad idea back in twenty twenty, but we seem
• 37:54
  Speaker 13: to want to bring back.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Well, that makes me really worried that kind of do
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: you buy that excuse?
• 38:02
  Speaker 12: I could probably go off for about an hour and
• 38:04
  Speaker 12: a half without stopping. Number One, the way that the
• 38:08
  Speaker 12: media in this country has allowed this to occur. Number Two,
• 38:10
  Speaker 12: If anyone on the right you know as well as
• 38:12
  Speaker 12: I do. You and I have had conversations with some
• 38:14
  Speaker 12: of the people that have associated with Donald Trump, and
• 38:16
  Speaker 12: the media has not let it go. The idea that
• 38:19
  Speaker 12: he piled around with this guy and openly was proud
• 38:22
  Speaker 12: about it during his primary. He was proud of it,
• 38:25
  Speaker 12: and suddenly, once he got the nomination, realized this isn't
• 38:29
  Speaker 12: going to serve me well in a general election. Remember,
• 38:32
  Speaker 12: America is about to commemorate the twenty fifth anniversary of
• 38:35
  Speaker 12: nine to eleven, and this is a guy who, up
• 38:37
  Speaker 12: until a couple of weeks ago, was proud to power
• 38:39
  Speaker 12: around with him. But Andrew, I gotta tell you the
• 38:42
  Speaker 12: funny thing is that was last week's news. Tomorrow, the
• 38:45
  Speaker 12: Democratic Party in Wisconsin is going to nominate a candidate
• 38:49
  Speaker 12: for governor Francesca Hong, who wanted to cancel Thanksgiving in America,
• 38:54
  Speaker 12: who said that she was upset about her own son's
• 38:58
  Speaker 12: proximity to whiteness. Now get this, Andrew, I want you
• 39:02
  Speaker 12: to sit down when I tell you this.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: She married this.
• 39:04
  Speaker 12: Francesca Hong is Korean. She married a white man and
• 39:07
  Speaker 12: her baby, no kidding, guess what happened came out half white.
• 39:11
  Speaker 12: She was shocked that he has proximity to whiteness. Now
• 39:15
  Speaker 12: I don't know if she has a biology problem and
• 39:17
  Speaker 12: didn't understand.
• 39:17
  Speaker 11: That that would happen.
• 39:19
  Speaker 12: But the reality is that she somehow feels bad for
• 39:22
  Speaker 12: her kid because she had a This wasn't an arranged marriage,
• 39:26
  Speaker 12: by the way, in America, we don't do that. So
• 39:28
  Speaker 12: somehow she is going to become the nominee for governor.
• 39:31
  Speaker 12: And even AOC, who is the godmother of the Democratic
• 39:36
  Speaker 12: Socialist tried to disavowt herself from that politics this weekend,
• 39:40
  Speaker 12: claiming that woke one point, Oh was crazy. I mean this,
• 39:44
  Speaker 12: it doesn't You cannot make this stuff up.
• 39:46
  Speaker 13: Anymore.
• 39:47
  Speaker 12: But this is where the Democratic Party in the United
• 39:50
  Speaker 12: States is these days. It has gotten so crazy that
• 39:53
  Speaker 12: even AOC is denouncing people.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Side racist, sant anti Semitic, irrational, so full of hate.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a mirror image of what the Democrats
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: used to think they were about. It's to me, it's
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: just extraordinary. Sean Spice to thank you so much.
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  Speaker 11: Indeed, all right, see you next week, have a great one.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: After the break of council orders shop signs to include English.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Is that racist or more inclusive?
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Some interesting language today from a Liberal frontbencher, ben small
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: federal liberal. He has accused the Abanizi government of funding
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: ghetto wisation ghetowization with its supporting multicultural communities program one
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: hundred and seventy million dollars worth of your money. And yes, indeed,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: multiculturalism is a government program to keep us apart, keep
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: us in tribes.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I've said so for decades. Really, as speaking of.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: A Sydney council multi ethnic Strathfield is vote to make
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: it compulsory for local businesses to include English in its
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: shop signs and not just say you know Chinese or
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Arabic only. So so that you know Australians feel welcome
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: other Australians, not like strangers in their own land, as
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I suspect is the case with a few Melbourne ethnic
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: enclaves now as well. Joining me Amir Schlicht, executive director
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: of the Samuel Griffith Society, and Michael Danby, former Federal
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: labor politician a former chairman of the Joint Standing Committee
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: on Foreign Affairs, Defense and Trade me all shop signs
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  Speaker 2: in the facade should include English, at least in this
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: council area.
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  Speaker 1: Good idea.
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  Speaker 14: Look, I think it's an important conversation Andrew to have.
• 41:41
  Speaker 14: I think if we want to be a successful multi
• 41:44
  Speaker 14: ethnic democracy here in Australia, that requires far more than
• 41:48
  Speaker 14: celebrating our diversity, it actually does require integration. I think
• 41:53
  Speaker 14: that's an idea that many politicians here in Australia have
• 41:56
  Speaker 14: shied away from this term and looked the biggest indicator
• 42:00
  Speaker 14: of successful integration of things like community participation and a
• 42:04
  Speaker 14: shared sense of belonging. And so I think this idea
• 42:07
  Speaker 14: that we should have communities where there are limited barriers
• 42:10
  Speaker 14: to participation and all people in those communities, regardless of
• 42:13
  Speaker 14: their background, are able to freely participate in those communities
• 42:17
  Speaker 14: and feel a sense of belonging in those communities is
• 42:21
  Speaker 14: really important and that goes a long way if we
• 42:23
  Speaker 14: are going to achieve this multi ethnic democracy that so
• 42:27
  Speaker 14: many people in Australia here celebrate. And I do think
• 42:29
  Speaker 14: it's a bit ironic that we've seen a few people
• 42:31
  Speaker 14: on the left start shouting now about government overreach when
• 42:34
  Speaker 14: I don't hear any of them complaining about all the
• 42:37
  Speaker 14: council regulations about you know, the hours businesses can be open,
• 42:42
  Speaker 14: the color of shopfronts, how tall a building can be.
• 42:45
  Speaker 14: There's no complaints about any of that. But all of
• 42:47
  Speaker 14: a sudden, now we're going to start talking about government overreach.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess that's an improvement in one sense. Michael.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Should all shop signs, you know, announcing what the business
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: is on the outside, include an English hint at what
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: they're doing?
• 43:06
  Speaker 15: Well, Andrew, isn't it interesting that the move of this
• 43:09
  Speaker 15: came from inside Strathfield, from the council. I for it
• 43:12
  Speaker 15: to be imposed from the outside, I would have thought
• 43:15
  Speaker 15: people would be able to debate it more. But Straffield's
• 43:17
  Speaker 15: pretty confronting. When you go there was an Italian suburb.
• 43:22
  Speaker 15: Italian Australians and now is mainly Asian. But I think
• 43:28
  Speaker 15: the more important point is that MP you're quoting talking
• 43:31
  Speaker 15: about the money given to ethnic organizations, like the money
• 43:36
  Speaker 15: given to environmental organizations, like this huge scam that you've
• 43:40
  Speaker 15: exposed about them subsidizing Channel nine. And that's on top
• 43:46
  Speaker 15: of the huge scam that is the ABC one point
• 43:50
  Speaker 15: two billion dollars. Who've just noticed, by the way, Andrew
• 43:54
  Speaker 15: the Prime Minister's Benny Hill persona that was exposed on
• 43:59
  Speaker 15: this started on his premium a month ago.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of that, Miya Anthony Albanese's Melon's scandal.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Do you believe the labor women like Minister for Women?
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: What a joke, Katie Gallagher insisting today, Oh no, Albanesi
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: wasn't making a joke about the Japanese Prime Minister's prest
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: not at all misinterpreted out of context.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Whatever What do you make of that?
• 44:27
  Speaker 14: I think this Albanesi government is taking Australians for absolute fools.
• 44:31
  Speaker 14: You've got to be kidding me. It was a crude, crass,
• 44:35
  Speaker 14: gross comment that was made. And the fact that Albanesi
• 44:38
  Speaker 14: is digging his heels in and refusing to apologize, I
• 44:41
  Speaker 14: think just speaks volumes. This is a Prime Minister who
• 44:45
  Speaker 14: makes mistakes all the time and refuses to own up
• 44:48
  Speaker 14: to them and seems to cover up these lies upon lies,
• 44:51
  Speaker 14: whether it's things like falling off the stage and refusing
• 44:54
  Speaker 14: to admit that happened, to bigger blunders like this where
• 44:57
  Speaker 14: he's offended a really crucial ally to Australia and is
• 45:00
  Speaker 14: refusing to own up to that apology. And as you've
• 45:03
  Speaker 14: pointed out Andrew on this program before she gifted him
• 45:06
  Speaker 14: a melon, and now you have Alban Easy talking about melons.
• 45:11
  Speaker 14: Come on, all Australians can see straight through that. And
• 45:14
  Speaker 14: I think I will say it again, he's taking us
• 45:16
  Speaker 14: for absolute fools if he thinks that we're not going
• 45:18
  Speaker 14: to see through these lies.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Well, Michael, you've known Anthony Alberanezi. Maybe that's not really him.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: It's it's wrong to suggest that he could tell such
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: a joke.
• 45:32
  Speaker 15: Rubbish Like Katie Gallagher, he's a hard socialist left ideologue,
• 45:38
  Speaker 15: and particularly with the socialist left women ministers, doesn't it
• 45:42
  Speaker 15: just show how unprincipled they are instead of speaking up
• 45:47
  Speaker 15: about how offensive this is to women and calling their
• 45:50
  Speaker 15: own Prime minister to get out there and do a
• 45:53
  Speaker 15: press conference and apologize and get it behind him. It's
• 45:57
  Speaker 15: tortuous to watch Pliversik and Gallagher these explanations. It's so
• 46:03
  Speaker 15: unprincipled and just shows that the Finance Minister is Kimberly
• 46:08
  Speaker 15: Kitchen described are a main girl, a really main girl.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Mia one reason that one nation I think is doing
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: so great in the polls. You know they will say, oh,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: it's about resentment and anger. No, it's just funny as
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: in entertainment. For example, this clip at released yesterday after
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: some of its young supporters infiltrated an anti Hanson protests
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: the stunt that I frankly doubt any of the mainstream
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: parties would try themselves have.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Look what are you here for today?
• 46:37
  Speaker 11: I'm introducing my niece to activism.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: How old is your niece?
• 46:41
  Speaker 11: Six and a half?
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Six and a half day?
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: You go.
• 46:44
  Speaker 11: We should have been using show how to push any
• 46:46
  Speaker 11: political agenda, especially harmful ones that lead to real doubts.
• 46:50
  Speaker 11: A billion is a million million, So that means if
• 46:52
  Speaker 11: somebody has one million dollars, like could own one million.
• 46:55
  Speaker 10: Out of my house is in a sad Please explain.
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: Jenline, half goodbye enough houses or half the popularity of struggle.
• 47:01
  Speaker 11: See, people don't get by how much apion is.
• 47:03
  Speaker 6: She could buy everyone up on a house at a
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: million dollars.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Me, what does that tell you? A clip like that
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: about the kind of people that hate one nation and
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: apparently Gina Rownhart.
• 47:16
  Speaker 14: Well, look, Andrew, I'm the first one to point out
• 47:19
  Speaker 14: that I cannot stand social media stunts from our political parties,
• 47:23
  Speaker 14: from our politicians, I often find a cringe. I often
• 47:26
  Speaker 14: get frustrated because I think it's a whole waste of
• 47:28
  Speaker 14: taxpayer money, and I'm the first person to criticize it.
• 47:31
  Speaker 11: But I will say clips like these.
• 47:33
  Speaker 14: From One Nation, You're right, they're just funny, and I
• 47:36
  Speaker 14: think they do resonate with a lot of Australians rather
• 47:39
  Speaker 14: than looking at these politicians doing thirty second TikTok dances
• 47:42
  Speaker 14: that no one can relate to and a finding incredibly cringed. Instead,
• 47:45
  Speaker 14: I think many people can relate to these one nation
• 47:47
  Speaker 14: clips where they're engaging with these particular individuals who have
• 47:50
  Speaker 14: incredibly unsophisticated arguments, and many of us can relate to
• 47:55
  Speaker 14: being in those arguments thinking, really, you're calling me racist
• 47:58
  Speaker 14: for having these pretty.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Reasons world views.
• 48:01
  Speaker 14: I think that's why one nation really is cutting through
• 48:03
  Speaker 14: the spin because people can relate.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Michael, I'd ask you too, but you drew my attention
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: to a story in the Nightly about two underwater internet
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: cables off the West Australian coasts that have been cut
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: on the weekend and it looks suspicious. No one knows
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: how in the thirty seconds we have left. What does
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: that tell you?
• 48:25
  Speaker 15: Well, the submarine base is going to be built in
• 48:27
  Speaker 15: West Australia. This is, in my view, ex Beijing showing
• 48:32
  Speaker 15: that what it can do in times of military conflict,
• 48:36
  Speaker 15: and it's been practiced very extensively around Taiwan and by
• 48:40
  Speaker 15: the Russians and the Chinese and the Baltic Sea against
• 48:43
  Speaker 15: Germans and the Baltic States.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: It has and I think that's very frightening.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: And don't let us not forget that a little Chinese
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: flatilla circumnavigated Australia over some of the attracts of the
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: cables under sea and who knows what they found. Mea schlicht,
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: Michael Danby, thank you very much for your time. Up
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: next Sherry Markson good Night,