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Red and Blue: Jarom Jordan previews No. 8 BYU facing No. 3 Notre Dame in Provo, Biggest home game ever for BYU (?) + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 2: now to talk about a massive game for BYU as
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  Speaker 2: they welcome the Notre Dame Fighting Irish in a top
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  Speaker 2: 10 matchup.
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  Speaker 1: College game day will be on campus. Big one in Provo. Jerem,
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  Speaker 1: how are you?
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  Speaker 3: Speaker 2, I'm doing great. How are you? Great. Great. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Highly anticipated weekend for the folks down there.
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  Speaker 3: Right. And what's interesting is because this was announced kind
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  Speaker 3: of shortly after the pop-tarts bowl in around January, there,
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  Speaker 3: there hasn't been this like years lead up. It was like, Oh,
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  Speaker 3: the ACC played and said, Hey, we're going to play
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  Speaker 3: nine conference games. So Cal bowed out of a game
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  Speaker 3: with BYU, USC canceled Notre Dame. This was literally the
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  Speaker 3: best possible in the Buick could have had because Notre
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  Speaker 3: Dame has not come to provost since 2004, despite having
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  Speaker 3: multiple opportunities. They played in Vegas four years ago. It
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  Speaker 3: was a good game. And here we are in BYU
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  Speaker 3: for the first time ever at home has a top
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  Speaker 3: 10 team to match up with another top 10 team
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  Speaker 3: and game day acknowledges how sweet this game is. And
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  Speaker 3: obviously they can get Notre Dame on the air. They will.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean, there could be a massive number with
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  Speaker 3: a Saturday night on ABC Fowler herb street. Welcome back
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  Speaker 3: Holly row. Who's been on both sides of this rivalry,
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  Speaker 3: obviously Utah grad and a lot of time at KBYU
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  Speaker 3: and BYU TV. When I was a young student, I
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  Speaker 3: worked on a show called true blue with host Holly row.
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  Speaker 3: So it'll be great to have her back in Provo.
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  Speaker 3: And it's a, it's a big game in for a
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  Speaker 3: good Jillian reasons. Can't wait.
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  Speaker 2: So I've heard many answers to this question and I
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  Speaker 2: wanted yours. Is this the biggest game ever in Provo?
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  Speaker 2: Is this the biggest matchup ever in Provo? And I
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  Speaker 2: asked my father-in-law this question last night. He was a
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  Speaker 2: former walk-on at BYU and he was part of some
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  Speaker 2: big years down there and he remembers a lot of
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  Speaker 2: BYU football and he said, well, no, the number one
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  Speaker 2: team in the country came It came to town back
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  Speaker 2: in the day and BYU beat them. But like you
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  Speaker 2: just said, that wasn't a top 10 BYU team. So
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  Speaker 2: even though it was an upset, I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: it was as highly anticipated as this one.
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  Speaker 1: Is this the biggest game ever at Lavelle Edwards Stadium?
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  Speaker 3: Now, there are two different things here. The biggest win
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  Speaker 3: in BYU history to me, and I think to the
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  Speaker 3: majority of BYU fans, is 1990 versus Miami. Miami's number one.
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  Speaker 3: They had won the national championship the year before you
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  Speaker 3: had to beat them. They end up number three. They
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  Speaker 3: were awesome. And tight ever is launched into a Heisman
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  Speaker 3: campaign that ends up winning him the eyes and not
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  Speaker 3: in that moment, obviously, but later that's a big freaking deal.
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  Speaker 3: Cause the 1984 Natty is the biggest thing you've always
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  Speaker 3: ever done in sports. The second thing is the Heisman
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  Speaker 3: with Ty, this situation, this buildup, this hype, this anticipation,
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  Speaker 3: the top 10 matchup, the college game day, the primetime ABC.
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  Speaker 3: this is the biggest set up for a game, which
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  Speaker 3: I think is the question in BYU history. Now it
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  Speaker 3: was that twice last year. What was it? What are
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  Speaker 3: you talking about? It was at Texas tech. That was
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  Speaker 3: the biggest buildup. First top 10 matchup ever for BYU.
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  Speaker 3: They lose 29, seven. That was a bummer. They dropped
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  Speaker 3: four spots. I want to remind people when you lose
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  Speaker 3: to a top 10 team, you don't, you don't go
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  Speaker 3: way down. Well, Florida did It's like Florida, Florida, you know,
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  Speaker 3: showed up one week and then didn't the other and
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  Speaker 3: got crushed. So it's not quite the same. Then the
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  Speaker 3: big 12 championship game was the biggest game in BYU
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  Speaker 3: football history up to that point, because they had a
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  Speaker 3: chance to secure an opportunity to get into the playoff
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  Speaker 3: and they lost big again. So this is an opportunity
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  Speaker 3: for BYU to really help itself in a gajillion ways.
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  Speaker 3: If they win, oh man, they're top five and they're
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  Speaker 3: playoff chances are way up. Like they might, they might
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  Speaker 3: be able to lose two conference games and still get in.
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  Speaker 3: Like that could happen. Maybe if they compete and lose,
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  Speaker 3: but go, go, Hey, it'd be always pretty good. They lost.
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  Speaker 3: It didn't have LJ Martin, you know, dot, dot, dot
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  Speaker 3: Notre Dame's pretty good. That would be a respectable loss.
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  Speaker 3: If they get blown out now, you just go, well, okay,
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  Speaker 3: got to win the big 12, you know, got to compete.
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  Speaker 3: And Utah's coming up in a couple of weeks and
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  Speaker 3: UCF is a huge game next week because it's emotionally
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  Speaker 3: either way, whether you win or lose to Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 3: I think the answer is yes. And there's a lot
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  Speaker 3: riding on it, but it's not everything, but it's certainly massive.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a huge moment in the, in the
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  Speaker 3: history of BYU football.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone can dispute that.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously there's the, the bells and whistles and the
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  Speaker 2: circus coming to town. Like you already mentioned with college
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  Speaker 2: game day, human nature is undefeated, but this seems like
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  Speaker 2: a pretty disciplined dialed in team. You know, they, they
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  Speaker 2: handle things in a very professional manner. I think that
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  Speaker 2: this coaching staff has a routine down that they like.
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  Speaker 1: There's been a lot of recent success.
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  Speaker 2: And sometimes these games can pull you away from that
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. I mean, for your quarterback, there's going
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  Speaker 2: to be extra media to do this week and things
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  Speaker 2: like that. But, I mean, at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: how much of a distraction, how much of a coloring
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  Speaker 2: outside the lines project is this for BYU football because
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  Speaker 2: of all the extra stuff?
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  Speaker 3: I think BYU is getting used to being good and
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  Speaker 3: having this kind of attention. And yes, with game day here, there's,
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  Speaker 3: there's kind of a little more there, but think about it.
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  Speaker 3: The last three years, BYU has been in the top
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  Speaker 3: kind of 15, top 20, quite a bit this year.
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  Speaker 3: BYU has now been inside the top 15, the entire time,
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  Speaker 3: the whole season, preseason. And now they've been top 10,
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  Speaker 3: the last four weeks, top 11, last five bear Bachmeier
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  Speaker 3: 17 and two as a starter, like that. BYU was
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  Speaker 3: almost in the playoff last year. I think BYU is
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  Speaker 3: used to sort of this situation. It's not kind of 06, 07, 08,
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  Speaker 3: where you start slow and you kind of catch up
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  Speaker 3: and you're trying to maybe crack into the new year's
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  Speaker 3: six kind of thing. It's just different. It's power conference football.
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  Speaker 3: I think BYU is pretty comfortable in that space. BYU
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  Speaker 3: has played some really good teams over the years. Notre
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  Speaker 3: Dame is one of the best teams BYU has played
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  Speaker 3: in a long time. Like I think that tech team
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  Speaker 3: last year was, was pretty good, especially that defense. So
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  Speaker 3: it's not like BYU hasn't played a team of the silk.
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  Speaker 3: I also want to remind people, Notre Dame hasn't come
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  Speaker 3: to the mountain times in 13 years. And, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they haven't had to play like a top 10 true
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  Speaker 3: road opponent in a minute and, and when, you know,
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  Speaker 3: those are tough things for them too. So I think
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  Speaker 3: it is a heavyweight battle. Notre Dame should be favored
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  Speaker 3: in this game. I agree with that. They're very good
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  Speaker 3: watching the film on them. I think they're fantastic. They're,
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  Speaker 3: they got five NFL draft picks on defense, including a
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  Speaker 3: top five pick and Leonard Moore, who's questionable with a concussion.
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  Speaker 3: But he's the best corner in America, maybe the world
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  Speaker 3: in college, you know? So yeah, they got a lot
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  Speaker 3: of dudes. It's going to be, it's going to be
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  Speaker 3: a heavyweight battle. It's going to be awesome. And I
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  Speaker 3: think BYU is humble enough to know like, Hey, we
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  Speaker 3: like survived against TCU. And then it was the biggest
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  Speaker 3: 14 point blowout in the history of college football Friday night.
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  Speaker 3: Cause BYU had plus 300 yards on Iowa state, but couldn't,
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  Speaker 3: couldn't punch it in very well in the red zone.
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  Speaker 3: So certainly there's room for improvement, but I don't think
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  Speaker 3: BYU has shown their best game quite yet. And this
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  Speaker 3: would be a great time for a Saturday night.
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  Speaker 2: Bear Bachmeier was huge in that game, 400 plus all
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  Speaker 2: purpose yards for him, ran for over a hundred pass
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  Speaker 2: for over 300.
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, he, in a, in.
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  Speaker 2: A game where I don't know if you needed to
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  Speaker 2: do it exactly that way, but where you're, you're down
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  Speaker 2: your top two running backs against Iowa state.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Um, and didn't get a lot going with the backup guys.
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  Speaker 1: Bear did run.
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  Speaker 2: Well, uh, he passed incredibly well. He was on time
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  Speaker 2: with this throws. He was efficient with this throws. I
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  Speaker 2: guess a couple of things bogged down in the red zone,
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  Speaker 2: as you already mentioned, but if you rewind a year,
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  Speaker 2: could bear Bachmeier have done that last year?
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  Speaker 1: Could he have, could he have passed that successfully?
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  Speaker 2: Could he have been a guy that's like, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if there was a conversation with Aaron Roderick, like, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to have to pass to win this game.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if any of that happened, but I
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  Speaker 2: guess I'm asking a question about his development. Is that
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  Speaker 2: something we saw from him against Iowa State where I
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  Speaker 2: was like, all right, this guy can run to win
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  Speaker 2: you the game, or if you need to rely on
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  Speaker 2: his arm, he can do that too. Did he have
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  Speaker 2: that in him last year?
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  Speaker 3: I think he did. I think he is better, though,
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  Speaker 3: to your point. But last year against West Virginia, he
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  Speaker 3: threw for. 351. Against Iowa State as well last year
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  Speaker 3: when L.J. Martin earned the second round. quarter. He threw
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  Speaker 3: for three Oh seven in the bowl game when LJ
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  Speaker 3: Martin didn't play through for three 25 against ranked Georgia tech.
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  Speaker 3: So he definitely had it last year. What I think
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  Speaker 3: he's better at this year is the deep ball. You
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  Speaker 3: always got four pass plays of 60 plus. Now, one
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  Speaker 3: of those was Roger Salipanga on Friday running to the
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  Speaker 3: 60-plus mark, but three to Legend Glasker. Legend Glasker is
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  Speaker 3: one of the best deep threats BYU's ever had, one
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  Speaker 3: of the best in the country. He's fifth in yards
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  Speaker 3: run per route. He's one of the top-rated freshmen in
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  Speaker 3: America from Pro Football Network. He is outstanding, and he
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  Speaker 3: is something that, you know, if Leonard Moore played, he's
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  Speaker 3: probably matched up with Legend Glasker. a Colorado transfer, DJ McKinney,
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  Speaker 3: who's played BYU now four years in a row at
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  Speaker 3: Oklahoma state, two years at Colorado, now Notre Dame. He'll
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  Speaker 3: be aware of legend Glasgow. So bear, I think is
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  Speaker 3: a better deep ball thrower. He's more accurate down the field.
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  Speaker 3: He struggled a bit with that last year at times,
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  Speaker 3: especially outside the numbers 20 plus that's a tough throw.
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  Speaker 3: That's an NFL throw, but he's getting better at it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And B and BYU, I think silence some of the
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  Speaker 3: critics of like can Bear pass it? And last week,
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  Speaker 3: BYU needed to with Noel J. Martin for sure, and
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  Speaker 3: they did a great job. And then, oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: he ran for 109, which is wild. The third BYU
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  Speaker 3: player ever, by the way, to go 300 past 100 rush.
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  Speaker 3: The other two, Steve Young, Taysom Hill. The top three
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  Speaker 3: dual threats with Bear Bachmer in BYU history.
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  Speaker 2: Jerem Jordan is our guest here talking the BYU-Notre Dame
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  Speaker 2: matchup coming. BYU, of course, top 10 team in the country.
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  Speaker 2: Notre Dame, top 10 team in the country. Huge thing
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  Speaker 2: happening in Provo This weekend, and I'm seeing reports BYU
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  Speaker 2: getting healthier. Still no Andrew Gentry, still no LJ Martin,
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  Speaker 2: but who are they going to get back?
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  Speaker 3: The hope is that Raider Damone is back at safety
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  Speaker 3: after a knee injury in the opener against Utah tech.
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  Speaker 3: That'd be good. Although Tommy Pratt said his best game
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  Speaker 3: as a Cougar last week at safety opposite follow tell
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  Speaker 3: South to Walla cannon debris would be a nice addition.
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  Speaker 3: If he can return a BYU's punt return to starting nickel.
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  Speaker 3: And frankly, I don't know that viewing needs him at nickel.
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  Speaker 3: Evan Johnson slides over to nickel and then David Williams,
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  Speaker 3: the Mississippi state transfer has been playing very well at
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  Speaker 3: kind of a second corner spot next to Trey Alexander
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  Speaker 3: and So hopefully Candidate Breeze can play a punt return.
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  Speaker 3: Last week, you know, Tiger Bachmeier really struggled. He started
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  Speaker 3: strong with a 16 and a 22-yard return, and then
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  Speaker 3: he muffed a punt, recovered it, and then he fielded
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  Speaker 3: a punt at the one, and then he muffed another punt.
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  Speaker 3: So that was tough. You don't get that kind of
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  Speaker 3: game and then thrown back in the rotation very quickly,
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  Speaker 3: very often. So, you know, hopefully Candidate Breeze come in there,
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  Speaker 3: and if you can return a punt, well, great. If not,
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  Speaker 3: just fair catch and let the BYU offense do its thing. And,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Sione Mo and Isaiah Glasker aren't ruled out.
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  Speaker 3: Glasker with the knee injury, you know, two weeks ago
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  Speaker 3: against TCU. And then Sione Mo dealing with the knee
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  Speaker 3: injury from the first game. So I'd be surprised, frankly,
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  Speaker 3: if Mo and Glasker played. I hope they do. If
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  Speaker 3: they're good enough, that'd be great. Some of BYU's top
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  Speaker 3: 15 players. But I think DeVries and DeMoney could have
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  Speaker 3: an impact on this game.
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  Speaker 2: Isaiah Glasker being out last week against an Iowa State
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  Speaker 2: team that has shown some ability to run the ball effectively,
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  Speaker 2: I thought was going to be a much bigger problem
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  Speaker 2: than it actually ended up being. And I think that's
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  Speaker 2: a testament to K-pop and to everything else that this
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  Speaker 2: BYU defense is doing from a talent and an execution standpoint.
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  Speaker 2: Towsili Akana continues to excel. Alexander, he had an incredible game.
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  Speaker 2: This defense, even without one of its best players, looks
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  Speaker 2: like still one of the best defenses in the conference.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're playing great. And, uh, you know, I, we,
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  Speaker 3: we have a relationship with, uh, stats perform. So I
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  Speaker 3: asked them when's the last time BYU held a powerful
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  Speaker 3: team to 10 points or less in back-to-back games. And
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  Speaker 3: it was 06, 07, the end of the sixth year
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  Speaker 3: to 07. So K-pop has kind of answered the call
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  Speaker 3: of like, is this BYU defense going to be as
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  Speaker 3: good or better? Uh, yeah. Uh, I, I think they're
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  Speaker 3: more dynamic, uh, on the, uh, defensive line. I think,
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  Speaker 3: like you said, Talcelia kind of is the a fourth
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  Speaker 3: highest rated edge rusher in America from pro football network.
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  Speaker 3: He's been great. County town of Vasa is kind of
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  Speaker 3: figuring it out, which by the way, his wife is
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  Speaker 3: like three weeks away from having a baby, which coincides
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  Speaker 3: with the BYU Utah week, by the way, he told
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  Speaker 3: me is due the week of BYU.
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  Speaker 2: He told us that at big 12 media days when
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  Speaker 2: we were down there and he was just like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: my wife is due like the seventh.
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  Speaker 3: What are you going to do? That is, that is
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  Speaker 3: some heavenly timing there. That's pretty funny.
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  Speaker 2: And like, they're going to induce, right. If everything's going well,
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  Speaker 2: she's got, they'll, they'll have the baby beforehand. So it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't have to worry about it.
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  Speaker 3: Right. I know. Right. You would hope on like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: Wednesday or Thursday, you could kind of knock that out.
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  Speaker 3: Modern medicine's awesome that way, but hopefully things go great.
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  Speaker 3: I know he's excited about it. And then, as you
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  Speaker 3: mentioned with no Isaiah Glasker, Jake Clifton's done a great job.
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  Speaker 3: So BYU got a steal of a deal. This dude's
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  Speaker 3: a member of the church wanted to go to BYU
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  Speaker 3: from Oklahoma. Didn't really get recruited. In fact, one of
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  Speaker 3: his high school teammates signed with BYU and he's like, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: I'm right here. What's going on? So he goes to
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  Speaker 3: K state does really well plays a bunch before his mission. uh,
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  Speaker 3: comes back from his mission, decides he wants to transfer
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  Speaker 3: to BYU and he has filled in really well. He's
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  Speaker 3: done a nice job, uh, you know, in Isaiah's place
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  Speaker 3: and Isaiah is awesome. So, uh, BYU defense has been good. Trey, Alexander,
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  Speaker 3: as you mentioned, I agree. I thought that was his
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  Speaker 3: best game as a BYU Cougar. They called pass interference
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  Speaker 3: on him. I didn't agree on that at all. He
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  Speaker 3: made some, a couple of third down stops, the TFL,
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  Speaker 3: like he's flying around. He is. And he is a
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  Speaker 3: very fun personality and he, and Evan Johnson form, perhaps
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  Speaker 3: the best cornerback tandem BYU has ever had. And then
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  Speaker 3: behind him as follow it, tell South to wallet, who
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  Speaker 3: has really high end NFL potential. there's, I mean, and
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  Speaker 3: Katie will have it kind of out of quiet night,
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  Speaker 3: but there's, there's just playmakers all over the place. And
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  Speaker 3: K-pop is unpredictable in what he's showing. They don't give
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  Speaker 3: up explosive plays. They were incredible on third down two
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  Speaker 3: of 13, eight and four was limited at 86 yards
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: after two 12, the week before that's BYU strength going
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: into this game is this defense. Now they do need
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: to take the ball away. A couple of times, Notre
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: Dame's only thrown one pick and they have not lost
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: a fumble. That's why they're being so good. They take
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: care of the football and they've been very explosive with
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: the three headed monster running back dynamic receivers. And then
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: their defense is number one in the country in yards.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: They take it away a ton. So BYU certainly has
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: to win the turnover margin to sort of disrupt the
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: Notre Dame team.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: They haven't played a top 40 SB plus team, but
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: you know, BYU, this is the best BYU team ever
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: that is facing another top 10 team. Like it's never,
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: it's never been this sort of heavyweight on heavyweight where
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: BYU actually could throw back a few punches, not out
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: of the blue, but just go toe to toe. And
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: that's the hope, right? And again, I'm not like BYU
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: has to win or no, no matter what I need
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: BYU to at least keep this a one score game
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: because it would be a respectable loss, but Hey, if
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: they win, let's go.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: So what's the matchup where, when you're looking at it,
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: you're like, okay, BYU might have, an advantage here, or
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: maybe it's just a neutral. And then the most problematic
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: of matchups in this game for BYU when it comes
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: to a really, really talented Notre Dame roster.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: I think BYU's run defense against Notre Dame's run offense
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: is going to be really interesting because it's a three-headed
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: monster for Notre Dame. They've done a great job. They
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: kind of give each guy a series. It's interesting. Jonas Walton,
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: who broke off a 97-yard touchdown run last week against Stanford,
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: He's a freshman, set a freshman season record there. Nolan
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: James Jr. and Aeneas Williams. Remember, they lost two first-round guys,
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Jadarian Price and, of course, Jared, my love, to the
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Seahawks and Cardinals, respectively. So they're trying to replace those guys.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: BYU is giving up two-ish yards per carry. So is
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Notre Dame. The other one where I have a little
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: bit of pause is BYU's run game offense versus Notre
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: Dame's defense. BYU without LJ Martin is not the same
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: rush offense. So last week, Bear Bachmeier really carried the load.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: Nine carries 109. That's an incredible number. I think that
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: BYU might need to run Bear 15 to 20 times.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: And this is going to be a physical beat-up Bear
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: after this game, but it's whatever it takes to win
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: in this one. And obviously in the red zone, they
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: need to pound it in with Bear a little more.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: They did not. They experimented a little bit. They used
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: some other stuff. some other place. And Aaron Roderick revealed
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: on one play bear misheard what he said. And he
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: called the wrong play to the team. And they ran
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: a fourth down kind of throw to walk the lines
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: on an out in the end zone. And he was like,
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: that wasn't the play that I called. So, so calm
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: kind of failed in that particular instance, but it didn't
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: cost me the game or anything. But I think the, the,
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: the opposing run games is where the game's going to
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: be one and lost to me.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: What would be a hotter t-shirt to sell in Provo
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Mormons versus Catholics and uh, prophets versus popes, which one
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: would sell better?
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: I think it'd be hilarious if someone did, uh, Catholics
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: versus the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, like
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: just spell out the whole church name. To me, that
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: would be really fun. I, the dynamics. So, so good
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: in this one. Um, there've been some funny tweets about
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: this exact thing too, by the way, Joe, we tweeted
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: Notre Dame, rich religious history, national fan base, when independent
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: last one in 90 in the eighties, never won a
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: New Year's six PCS game, inexplicably left out of the playoff,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: despite having a resume deserving of it. Rudy was baptized
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: in there into their religion. They're really Eastern time zone, BYU. That,
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: that made me laugh. That made me laugh really hard
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: that full respect to Notre Dame, like the, you know,
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: four horsemen, Joe Montana, touchdown, Jesus, Rudy, all the stuff
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: like it's, it's fun to have them in Provo. Like
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: this is a, this is a really cool opportunity.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Speaker 3 I think I saw your tweet about your
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: prediction on a celebrity guest picker.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Do you have any more insight? Have you been having
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: this conversation?
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Okay. You know, there's, there's some whispers that perhaps we'll
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: see that Riley Arnold of dancing with the stars who's
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: from Provo and dating tight end Walker lions could be
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: the guest picker. We it's not finalized, you know, there
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: are people in the mix, but I'm hearing that that
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: w that is one that that was a dark horse
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: pick for me, given the sort of you know, a
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: synergy with ABC. I thought maybe Ken Jennings, cause it's
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: just a little more popular there. The host of jeopardy,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: of course, a BYU grad would be in there. I
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: would be interested to see if BYU, if game day
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: goes non-athlete, right? Like not that she's not an athlete
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: for dancing. I mean, non-former BYU football player, like, do
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: they go that route or do they kind of go
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: with the non non-football player route? We'll see.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Riley Arnold, for those of you who don't watch dancing
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: with the stars is 21 years old. That would, she'd
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: have to be like tied for the youngest guest picker ever.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: I'd be pretty young, right? Yeah. That's a good, that's
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: a good point. Who's been younger. If it's her, we'll see.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Like they usually don't have college age people doing any
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: of college game day, but it, that'd be cool. That'd be,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: she's got a pretty big following again. I, I don't
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: know what their algorithm is for how they pick these
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: people in every case. You know, if you're like trying
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: to expand an audience by, by bringing her in, you would,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: you would probably bring in some non-traditional college game day watchers,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: at least for her segments.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Or do you, do you lean into what you always
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: lean into and say, no, let's pander to the.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Football fans or bring it in Steve Young or Jim
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: or for dad or whatever. Yeah. Like Donny Osmond, you know,
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: you go outside of like, wait, it's fun to see.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Cause the guest picker from your school, like you have
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: to evaluate, like, wait, how many good former athletes do
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: we have? How many, how many sort of celebrities exist
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: from among the alumni? Like would they go to, you know,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Ryan Smith, given the kind of McAfee friendship or whatever,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: like to me, Ryan's like a top five choice there.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: It's been fun to think about that. The other thing is,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to do it, do it
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: in the parking lot where they did in oh nine.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: And then where they did big noon kickoff, I think
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: they're going to do it somewhere else. And there's some
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: other good options that BYU has sort of enabled just
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: in case from a kind of logistic standpoint. So I'm
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: excited to see what they do at Helaman fields, which
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: is just south of, of the football stadium or perhaps
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: the baseball field or on campus somewhere, maybe Brigham square
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: outside the Wilkinson center. So I don't think we're going
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: to get the, just in the parking lot, which is
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: a beautiful shot of the stadium and the mountains. But I,
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: I think, I think we're going somewhere else. We'll see.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Do you think that changes attendance or anything like that?
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: People are going to show up wherever it's at.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: I think they'll show up wherever I, my pick would
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: be the baseball stadium, Miller park. Like you can put
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: people on the artificial turf field. You can put them
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: in the stands. You have, you have the beautiful shot
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: of white mountain. You've got the merit center right there.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: You can use the existing sort of infrastructure for fiber,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: for all the logistics and tech that they need. So
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: my vote is the baseball field. We'll, we'll see. I know,
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: I know game day picks, but BYU says, Hey, we
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: have these spots are logistically available to you. What do
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: you want? And then they select BYU. And I bet,
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: I bet we'll find out here in the next day
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: or two, the guest picker and the location soon, but it's,
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: it's exciting. People, it probably was buzzing, man. People are stoked,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: not only for the game, but for game day and everything.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: And I told my eight-year-old son, I said, dude, we're
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: going to have a five 30 Saturday, man, man. We
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: got to be there at six. Let's let's go. Let's
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: get ready.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I I'm going to be in Chicago. So on the
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: other end of the travel for for this game, right?
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Everyone going to note, you're going to South Bend.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go in the wrong direction.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I am calling fights in, in Chicago this weekend. So, uh,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: the that's where you travel to and through for anyone
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: who's never been to South Bend. That's where all the
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame fans are going to be coming from Chicago
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: to Provo and vice versa. So I, I guess I'll
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: be on the other end of the travel spectrum while
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: you guys have all your fun in Provo.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: You'll say hi to everybody as they're going by in
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: the airport and they're, and they're fighting Irish green, which
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: would be fun. Yeah. It's, it's, it's a huge opportunity, man.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: And then I think BYU Utah, regardless of what happens
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: to BYU, I think BYU Utah could also be another
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: top 10 matchup November 7th. Like there's a decent chance
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: that happens again.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Utah fans are getting mad at me because I'm saying.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: You don't have to root for it actively, but It's
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: better for Utah if BYU wins this game. And then, obviously,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: the only positive outcome is you have to beat BYU.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: But in that case, if BYU wins, then Utah's got
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: a top five BYU team coming to Rice-Eccles Stadium on
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: November 7th. And you beat a top five team, not
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: only is it better for the bragging rights here in state,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: but it looks even better for the pollsters and all
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: that stuff.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Utah fans are not thrilled with my take on.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: That, though. Oh, I get it. Like, yeah, you don't,
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: you don't want to root for BYU. I get it.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: It would, it's huge for the league too. Like the
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: league's best chance at two teams is BYU beating in
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: the playoff is BYU beating Notre Dame. Because then if,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: if BYU loses, let's say BYU loses one other regular
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: season game and they're in the big 12 title game
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: and they lose that they have two losses that Notre
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Dame win will lift them in. Like I, I really
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: believe that an 11 and two BYU team, again, you
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: can't like lose by 20 plus in the two losses
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: and feel you know, like last year, you know, we
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: might've been in, but you can't do that and have
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: much to say there. So compete, you know, and all that,
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: but yeah, it really helped the league. It's a big
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: moment for everybody in the league because it was the
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Oregon win. Now Oregon's unranked. Like that win is good,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: but it's not as good as it was. What's the
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: big win from the big 12 right now? This is
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: an opportunity.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: All right. So what's the outcome, Jerem? What's your real
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: prediction on how this thing goes on Saturday?
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a one score game.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: You know, I could see all kinds of scenarios, but
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: I don't see BYU winning by 10 plus. When BYU
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: has beaten a top 10 team, they've done six times.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: It was always one score. So if BYU wins, it's
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: by one score to me. I can see where the
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: BYU defense gives Notre Dame some trouble. The question is,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: is BYU offense going to be able to get into
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: the 20s and kind of hold down Notre Dame? So
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking this game's probably in the 20s, and I'm
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: hoping it's a BYU 24, you know, 20 win realistically one,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: one score either way. I could very well see that.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: My hope is that BYU competes well. What I don't
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: want is, you know, what happened against Texas tech last year.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: And I think this team's learned quite a bit from
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: those two games.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, and
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: obviously a win over Notre Dame is something that you just,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: it's a nice feather in the cap for a coach's resume.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: This would be a good, quote-unquote, issue to deal with
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: if everyone's calling. And they have been for years, right?
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: It's not like this is the first year BYU's good.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Last two years, BYU's been good. you know, top 15,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: top 20 good. So yeah, this, this would be, but
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: this would be a new kind of stratosphere of like,
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: if BYU wins this game, they are top five for sure.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: And they have a real opportunity to make the college
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: football playoff for the first time, which would be great.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: Cause BYU has been knocking on the door for a
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: long time. They, they knocked it over in 84. It's
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: a different era. They took advantage. It was awesome. They
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: didn't play a super crazy schedule. They took advantage. But
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: you know, in 90 BYU is in the top five
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: for several weeks after beating Notre Dame and kind of
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: spins out at the end, you know, 96 BYU is
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: top five. And then it's like, Oh one BYU is
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: knocking on the door of the BCS, but they, they lose,
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: you know, six, seven, eight, nine. Those are good teams.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: They never kind of got to that BCS or new
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: year six game, you know, 20, 21, 24, 25. Now
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: the huge opportunity and BYU has a game in Provo
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: to prove itself, which is very exciting. So hopefully BYU
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: can take advantage here. All right.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Here's another question that annoys me to even have to ask,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: but has BYU ever before had a, Two players in
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: the NBA or the NFL or Major League Baseball or
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: any pro sport who are among the top three or
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: top five at their position. This is something that typically
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: belongs to Ohio State, to Miami, to USC. And right now,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, Puka is back and two healthy games back
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: is showing that he's one of the top receivers in
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: the country. And of course, Fred Warner continues to dominate.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: And that's a way for me to sneak in Niners
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: beat Seahawks. But, you know, they're both, but they're both
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: BYU guys and they're both, especially in Fred's case that,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: you know, very vocal alum about being a BYU guy.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: So like, have they ever had this before where you've
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: got two of the best at their respective positions in
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: pro sports?
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: At first, I thought you were going to like Yegor
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: and AJ because they played last night. You know, we
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: hope AJ is like MVP caliber in the next couple
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: of years. And I think Yegor could be you know,
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: kind of a fringe all-star guy eventually. But I don't
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: think so. You know, in, in BYU's heyday, you know,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: you had, you had Steve Young as MVP multiple times,
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: and I'm not sure there was kind of another guy there,
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: unless you're like Barto, it's a center. Yeah.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, like, like was Rob Morris considered a top,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: whatever linebacker when Steve Young was his thing?
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I don't think so.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Right? No, I, no, I don't think so. we've always
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: had very good players, but like all pro guys and
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: everyone knows it kind of thing, especially with the attention.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Now that the NFL has, this is a special time
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: for BYU football and it's credit to Klein stock. Puka
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: is a guy who got out of the portal and Fred,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: the guy that he recruited away from USC to come
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: to Provo is kind of a, a four-star guy. And
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: they have blossomed in an amazing way. And there's they're
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: in their prime still like Puka is just getting going
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: and Fred still has several more good years. So yeah,
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: it's an exciting time for, for these guys in the pros.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Cause let's be honest. There was a point where it
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: felt like BYU was like, at some point I felt like, oh,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: it's not our job to get them to the NFL.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, it is in the, maybe the previous
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: regime and Bronco was producing NFL guys, but I don't
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: feel like it was emphasized. I feel like it's important
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: to BYU now, like we want to get you there
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: and we're going to help you get you there. in
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: the men's basketball side, it's actually front facing. It's kind
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: of the number one thing. It's like, we're going to
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: get you the NBA. We also want to win in
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: the NCAA tournament. Like it's, it's very interesting. And because
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: of that, BYU is recruiting at a really high level
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: in basketball and in football, they just came off their
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: highest ranked recruiting class ever, you know, Ryder Lyons and
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: Brock Harris were top five guys at their position. And
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: they're coming to BYU after their missions, which is exciting.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Rams and Niners, both active this weekend, by the way.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: So they, Fred Warner or Puka cannot be celebrity pickers.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: And Chiefs. No Andy Reid. You go, nope, nope, nope. So, yeah.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: Is it Riley Arnold? Is it Ken Jennings? Is it
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Ryan Smith? Is it Donny Osmond? Is it, you know, yeah,
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: there's Taysom Hill's available in Provo if they want it.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: We'll see where they go, man. I'm guessing they go
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: non-former player. I shouldn't say non-athlete. Riley's an athlete. Non-former
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: football player.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Jeremy, the man, appreciate you giving us some time. Enjoy
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: it this weekend.
• 30:56
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• 30:58
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• 31:00
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