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Why Moms Belong in the AI Conversation Now · That Mom

• Maria Woods: you Welcome to That Mom, the podcast where we explore finding more joy and more meaning in the beautiful chaos of motherhood. I'm your host Maria, and I'm so glad you're here. Welcome back. AI is moving fast, but how should you be using AI as a mom? Today, Shreya from Moms Build AI breaks it down. What to use, what to ignore, and how to start integrating AI into your real life in a way that actually matters. Shreya, welcome to that mom. Shreya, welcome to That Mom. I am thrilled to have you because you're here to talk to us about AI, specifically for moms. Yes, I'm so excited to be here. Thank you, Maria. Yes, can you tell me and tell us a little bit about the work you're doing and why it's so important to you? Oh, sure. So just a little bit of background on how I landed here. So I have been working in corporate tech in you know, data partnerships advertising for more than a decade. Um, and then last year I became a mom, the ultimate transformation. Um, and I, you know, decided to pivot, kind of wanted to find a new chapter and, know, just because of my tech background, I started, I kind of like got sucked into AI and I was like, okay, I'm just going to learn more about it. Um, and then fast forward to this year, I started advising some fast growing. AI startups and VCs and just becoming, you know, again, embedded into like the AI world. And one of the things that started really bothering me was the lack of women and moms in this space. ⁓ and I just wasn't getting to interact with, you know, many moms who were building. And when I talked to my own friends, women who I think are very ambitious and moms who I think are very ambitious. they kind of had this, not resistance, but this like anxiety around like, ⁓ I don't understand it fully. I don't know when I'm gonna have time. And then when I looked into the data, the data kind of backed it all up. It wasn't surprising that women are slower to test and adopt AI and there are serious repercussions when it comes to like career advancement. ⁓ And so while I've... loved that work. It's super fulfilling. I continue to do it. I wanted to start ⁓ making an impact in whatever way I could make a dent around AI literacy and fluency when it came to moms. Because the data we have today shows that women are behind. We don't have data specifically on moms, but I'm certain moms are kind of bottom of that adoption curve because the truth is like You know this better than anyone. We are so under resourced and time constrained in just our current lives. Like adding another thing is so hard. Um, so in March I launched Moms Build AI and the goal was simply let's equip and empower moms to start learning, to start having an opinion. And a big reason why I wanted to focus on moms, you know, it's not just about the literacy and career advancement. It's also about, we are raising the next generation. We are raising children and AI is here to stay and they're going to use AI. They're going to build with AI. They're going to live in an AI world. And from what we've seen with, you know, the social media landscape and you know, any kind of tech revolution before that, if you're not involved in the beginning, you lose a lot of power in shaping the narrative and shaping the use. And so my ask to moms is, know, putting the career thing aside, part of the reason I think you should get educated is I want moms to have a seat at the table at shaping AI and how AI appears in the world. And so that's really the goal, the mission and how I got to moms build AI. There's so much there that I would have loved to unpack. so first. Women are slower to adopt AI. ⁓ And you mentioned maybe some reasons why, but how is this a negative or how is this something that the listeners, the moms out there, why should we care that we're a little slower to adopt? You mentioned career, but also how we shape AI. Yeah, I mean, the consequences, and you'll continue to see more and more data about it. So one of the most I think alarming stats is that women compared to men are at higher risk for their jobs being replaced by AI. And so what that really means is. Wow. I mean, that's, that's huge. That's huge. And what that leaves you with is, okay, I have to upscale to face that. ⁓ And so I think that's just like at a very basic level is that if you look at the data and the jobs that are at the highest risk for replacement from AI, women make up a lot of those jobs. And why is that? Like what type of jobs are these? Is that the reason because of the particular type of job? Yeah, I think there's a, the more you dig into it, there's reasons why women in certain fields are kind of more are in those fields. Therefore it's a high risk. But I think beyond that, you know, I really also think about career advancement, which is You're the way I like to kind of phrase what's happening with AI is, know, I don't think of AI as like a one click one stop feature that to me, like if you think of AI as just chat GPT or Claude, like that's very basic of an understanding. AI is essentially replacing the technological infrastructure of everything. And so what that means is like, if you look at how any tech product is going to be built, there's going to be replacements for artificial intelligence at every level. And so if that's what's happening, which is not just, ⁓ we have some tools that are AI based, but it's, Hey, the infrastructure is now going to be AI powered. That means for you to advance in your career and have opportunity in career, you have to be AI literate, AI fluent and understand AI. And so there's, you know, the threat of job replacement, but there's also a huge threat around career advancement. And that's something I deeply care about because as moms, you know, it takes a lot to show up in the workplace. You know, we were trying to balance it all. then, you know, you want to, you already are kind of, you know, dealing with the mental load of that. And then to add to it. if you don't have the bandwidth to kind of evolve with where the landscape is going, that puts you at a higher risk. And that's something we don't want for moms. And then kind of like the third area that I talk about where it comes to consequences is because AI, and the reason I make this repeated distinction about AI being not a point solution in infrastructure is to just kind of be a reminder of our kids will be exposed to AI no matter what. maybe they'll know it, maybe they won't. But because AI almost blends itself so well, there needs to be a conversation around how it's introduced into children's lives, how it's introduced into schools. Because with any, as with any technology, and you know, social media is a perfect example, the benefit of the technology can be amazingly high, but it can also on the flip side be very damaging. And to strike that balance of, let's benefit from AI and let's, you know, try to learn the lessons and limit the risks of AI. think moms have to be those advocates of shaping and almost like advocating for kids. Yeah. So if your call to action is for moms to familiarize themselves with AI so that they can help shape policies of how AI shows up in school and how their kids interact with AI. And I like that you bring up both positive and negative, right? And I think you ⁓ expressed to me earlier your stance on children and AI and explain a little bit about that. Because I think when moms think about AI, one thing they think about is, is this something I want my children using, particularly young children? Yeah. So I, my, my stance and what I shared with Maria earlier is I'm cautious when it comes to children. And the reason being is, you know, artificial intelligence is so powerful that it can, it can almost act like it's making decisions for you. And that's actually something we, we don't want to expose children to, right? We want critical thinking to be something. that is like the top skill that they're working on. And because it's so expansive in what artificial intelligence can power and become, I kind of work from a place of caution, which is I don't know when and how children should be exposed. But on the flip side, I also know that if I don't use and learn AI, I can't have an educated or even useful stance, right? Like I need to have a deeper understanding to kind of carve out like, ⁓ wait, this could actually be an amazing opportunity for how it could be used in schools. And then this is kind of the line of like, I don't want to bring this towards kids at all, but I think it's really hard to even question or have a dialogue with your school board, your local school board, if you don't have an understanding. And I think the challenge with that Maria is like artificial intelligence can be very conceptual. Like you're just thinking about it and you you read about it all the time and you're like, okay, this is scary. Like I don't want, I don't want to touch it. But the truth is you have to move from conceptual to theoretical. And the only way to do it is to actually be using it within your own life. And I think that will at least give you some kind of gauge as to like what's working and not working. The other thing. that I also double down on is, know, we're, if you look at the CDC guidelines and AAP guidelines for tech and screens for kids, they're still evolving. They're still changing. They actually changed to them this year again. And so, and the reason is, and I had like, you know, in their defense, you need data to make such a big decision and have a guideline. But what we're left with is mom's gut, our gut. for, you know, a parent's gut for, I think this is what's going to work best. And I, and I do think, and this is why I encourage moms so much is we're in that era of the topic of AI kids. No one has enough data. We do have data on screens. We have data, you know, on social media. And so you can use those as guiding examples. But right now we're in a phase where it's really about mom's gut. And so the best thing you can do is learn and educate yourself. And Also question. Yeah. So you said a couple really great things. I think you have to be educated on AI ⁓ in order to have an opinion, to have a stance, to help shape how it interacts with your children and their lives. ⁓ And also you said AI can be a bit scary or you mentioned this resistance or people are like, no. So let's talk about that resistance because I'm sure at least a couple of people listening have at least mixed feelings about AI or maybe they're having discussions with other moms and it's like, you know, there's some tension there between how much AI do we want in our lives or should we even be engaging in AI? Let's talk about that. I think that's such a complex topic, but something I welcome, you know, constant dialogue around. So, One of the core principles that I believe is because AI is so infrastructural, a mom or a group of people or, you know, a cohort saying, I'm not going to use AI, I'm going to resist AI and if I don't use it, it might go away. Unfortunately, that's impossible, right? Because enterprises have already started pivoting. There's a stat I use, which I think is the perfect example, which is Sundar Pichai, who's the CEO of Alphabet Google. ⁓ He said that 75 % of code being written at Google is being written by AI. So if you think about that, where, you know, one of the largest trillion dollar tech companies is already moving to code being written by AI, that's just gonna trickle down. And so that's what I mean about like infrastructure. How tech is being built is gonna involve AI and platforms have already employed AI. They're gonna be kind of embedded every layer. So I do want to kind of challenge this force with Maria that grassroots, you stop using AI, it's going to go away. Because that's not going to happen. Because we're actually, I would argue, far past that infliction point. Yeah. You actually made an analogy about a website in the internet. Could you share that with the listeners? Yes. So this is very simplistic and maybe imperfect. But an analogy I like to think of is If you just say like, I'm not going to visit this website and you know, because of that, the internet is going to go away. And so the, the kind of AI version of that is like, I'm not going to use chat GPT. I'm not going to use Claude and it's going to go away. And it's kind of like, no, the whole AI ecosystem is still going to grow. It's still going to develop and you're just not even going to be part of the conversation. The same way, if you decide not to go to a few websites, the internet is still living, breathing, evolving. Um, and that's just to kind of show. why consumer, you know, small actions, don't think have the capacity to actually stop the infrastructure evolution that's happening. ⁓ But you know, if you, if you're able to accept that AI is here to stay, what, you know, I think a lot about is the resistance is from the unknown. And the resistance is also from history, being social media was damaging screens. have had some damaging impacts. But when I look at social media and I look at screens and I kind of look at, know, tech, always think like, if there were guardrails, we could have had the benefit outweigh, you know, the risks and the consequences. And if you actually look at what happened with social media and with, with kind of screens, It was all the policies, all the standards, they're still being built. Like we still don't have perfect standards, right? And it was so reactive and it took so much time. so for anyone who's resisting because of the harm they believe tech had, they, you know, just very practically that tech also had a lot of benefits. And so Because we can't stop it, the best thing we can do is to just think about guardrails for ourselves, for our family, for our children, and have that dialogue so that, you know, the ecosystems that we function in, it can be a proactive conversation versus reactive. And that's my only ask. Like if a school decides, if, my child's school decides to implement AI, I want to have a conversation of why, what's the benefit, does the benefit outweigh the risks? And, you know, the... That to me is already a huge step forward than where we were with ⁓ tech and screens. so I think, and then a couple other things I want to talk about when it comes to resistance is a lot of people talk about the environmental image. ⁓ And my challenge to that is, I guess currently I don't think it's being done in the most sustainable way. But I'm not sure where this ranks in terms of like the most damaging, you know, environmental thing. ⁓ I also think that that's another place why we have dialogue. Like we can, there are more sustainable ways to, you know, have these data centers and AI, cetera. And like, we have to be louder about it, but I, I don't, I think that's a little bit, you know, overblown as to like, that's like AI is why, you know, there's going to be. ⁓ unimaginable damage, like there's a lot of complexity in like the environmental situation. ⁓ And then the last thing that I think, you know, folks resist about is job replacement. AI is coming for jobs. And The truth is I read some very dystopian approaches and there are some documentaries out there which do paint the picture of worst case scenario where we give too much power to AI and you know how it could tip to the evil scales like and that is a narrative and I think that's a cautionary tale. And then there's a very positive narrative that is also there which is like what if AI takes away all the repetitive, painfully, you know, admin and manual pieces of our lives and leaves us with creativity. Yeah. I think the reality will be somewhere in the middle, but I do think that when you do read the news, Maria, like, and I would love your opinion on this, but when you do read the news, like, I can understand why it seems daunting because I think a lot of times we are at least from what I read, sometimes we are painting a very dystopian image of what the world will look like. Yeah, I think personally, your recommendation is to jump into AI and I want to get into that. Like you said, use it in your daily life. So I think, you know, I'd love to go there next. I think for me, that's been beneficial to gain whatever understanding I have about AI is actually from starting to use it a little bit. But then you also mentioned guardrails. So ⁓ maybe let's do guardrails first. And then how can moms get into AI? How do you recommend that they begin to interact with AI? Yeah, totally. So for guardrails, you know, right now we're learning as we're going. I think an analogy for this would be we're building the plane while we're flying it. And I would say if there's any parent out there, I think you're going to have to, you know, build some standards for yourself and for your family. And I would just ensure that when it comes to the conversation of schools, like you just engage your schools on it. And You know, I think this might be a moment to kind of audit tech in schools altogether. And, you know, I was talking to a mom and we did a collaboration piece actually on socials today. And one of the things she was talking to her school board about is that she'd love to have like a tech AI committee where there's proposals on, you know, what tech they'd like to bring in the classroom, what type of AI they'd like to bring in the classroom and just discuss. Because it's going to be a lot of data collection and testing for the next few years. the best thing you can do is be involved in the decision making. So your perspective can be heard. And I think that's why I'm so passionate about getting moms into AI because if we're just not part of the conversation, our perspective is going to be completely missing. And to me, that is the worst case scenario. And would you mind sharing? like some of your own personal guardrails around AI or how you think of that? Yeah, for sure. So I'm very much just kind of putting it right now, at least I'm putting AI under the tech bubble when it comes to my own child, meaning I want to wait as long as I possibly can to expose him to screens, to the internet. ⁓ And he's just barely a year old a little over. like 15 months. So it's easy right now and we've done no screens and it's easy to kind of deal with that. But never say never. You don't know who you're in love with it too. And the piece that I worry about is like, think when they, and I don't know at which stage in school, but they're going to have some interaction with screens. And so I think that's when I'll likely change kind of my opinion of like, well, how do I balance of My guardrails are different than the in-school guardrails, et cetera. But I think right now I'm taking as conservative of an approach as possible. And, but also Maria, like I look at his life and I'm like, I don't see where you need AI to make your life easier. Right? Like it should be for, think for him, the next five years is all about play development learning. And so I don't think there's any risk for me not exposing him to AI. ⁓ but I also do want to talk about like my personal. guardrails. ⁓ you know, I posted about this as well because I think this one can be really confusing to navigate. But I think my general rule of thumb is the older I get, the more I care about preserving the most human moments of my life. And so I spend, you know, a lot of time on my relationships. I spend a lot of time with my son and I care about human connection a lot. And I think the reason tech can a lot of times be villainized is it's directly, it kind of feels an opposition to that. And there's truth. There's data to prove that, you know, because of the rise of tech, loneliness has increased, et cetera. And I am very aware of that. so maybe, maybe that's even a reason why I doubled down so much about, you know, preserving the human, preserving the relationships of my life, et cetera. And so. A lot of what I'm using artificial intelligence for is the things that are really weighing me down in my personal or work life that's more of a repetitive task or a very admin task, but that has nothing to do with my decision making. One of the distinctions I always make is artificial intelligence actually does an amazing job at organizing information and I use that a lot. But the judgment and the decisioning from that information will always be solely mine. And I think that protection is really important and I actually think because it can get blurry with AI, because AI will make a recommendation and be like, I can make a decision for you. But that blurriness between keeping decisioning to yourself is actually why I think it's really risky for children. that if we introduce it too early and they don't know the distinction of, you know, AI is there to organize information and to gather information versus like, I'm, you know, me, I'm in charge of the decision. I think that's why I'm scared of exposure to children. that's something that I am extremely, you know, aware of when I build my AI processes in my personal life or in my professional personal life of like keeping that distinction of like, what pieces need to be wholly mine. And so anything that kind of breaches into my critical thinking, my decisioning, my judgment, my tastes, or like my human perspective or relationship is something that I am aggressively protective over. Yeah. You also mentioned ⁓ about note writing versus emails, which I thought was a really great human and yet everyday example. Yeah, mean, AI is not writing my birthday cards to, my loved ones. ⁓ But I think AI 100 % should be writing the first draft of, you know, all my work emails that, to be honest, are very standard. And there isn't, you know, if you kind of look at your general emails, like, yes, there's some very thoughtful... you know, human emails that you're writing, but a lot of it is just to kind of continue getting business done. And I think that's like a really good place to use AI. And the other thing I really like about AI is, know, sometimes it gives you a starting point on a really sticky, a sticky, tiring part of your life. And like an example I use is, you know, when you have to write a negotiation email, you're negotiating something for work. You're sometimes like, where do I start? And it's nice to be able to, you know, describe it to artificial intelligence and have it write you three drafts. So you can decide, okay, like this is a good starting point. Let me think through it, this lens. ⁓ but I think there's a distinction of what, what really does need your perspective versus what is just repetitive run down, ⁓ part of your day to day life. So let's jump into. How do moms get started with AI? Let's say someone is maybe just using chat GBT or Claude. Is that enough? Is that what the call to action is? ⁓ How do you recommend moms get started or from there kind of continue their experience with AI? I love that question. ⁓ The first thing before we jump into this, I want to say this to all the moms out there. keeping you from trying AI is that you don't feel like you're a technical person. That's the beauty of AI. AI is the ability to, you know, take a lot of information and do a lot of actions using just regular language. And you know, the LLM CLAWD and, um, chat GPT are LLM, which stands for large language models. It's because you can interact with AI through simple language. And that's a really exciting time because that means Actually, there isn't a technical barrier for you to play around or build with, you know, AI and you can actually build a website in minutes. I truly believe that at least for like my work life right now, there's at least 30 to 40 % of it that I would have never done without AI because I would have truly needed technical people to help me. And you know, now I'm able to do it myself and that's really exciting. So I think that's one thing I want to start with is like if your mom who says I'm not technical, great AI is not technical. Yes. If you want to go into like the models and how that's functioning, it does get technical, but just for day to day usage, it's not technical. Your question was, is Claude just playing around with Claude and track GPT enough? Yes. And I want to explain why. ⁓ You know, there was this influencer I follow, was asking, you know, very smart people in Silicon Valley, you know, what's, what are you using in AI? What's your favorite AI tool? And repeatedly their answer was, you know, I'm using Claude, I'm using this, like it was just one or two tools. And the reason I bring that up is because I think there is this like fallacy that the more tools that you're using, the more sophisticated you are. That's not true at all. The kind of distinction I make is the more competent your ⁓ training of artificial intelligence can get, the more artificial intelligence can complete for you and do for you. That's what makes your usage of AI stronger. So it's not the amount of tools and like the complexity of your toolkit. It's actually the competency of your AI interactions. Right? So what that means in reality is are you. So the better question to ask Maria would be, are you using Claude and chat GPT like Google search? Are you just asking a question? Because that to me is like very basic and you're not understanding the full potential power or the return on your time with AI. Where it gets really interesting is can it meal plan for me? Can it, you know, generate a news briefing for me? Can it remind me of important school events? Can it take away some mental load? If you're a content creator, can it help me generate my content faster? If you're a small business owner, can it help you upgrade your, you know, your workflow and automate it, you know, things that you can automate so they work faster? And so I really don't worry about, are you using one tool? One tool is more than enough. It's what are you doing with that tool so that you're actually getting an impactful return on your life because AI is able to take those non-human, repetitive, tiring pieces off your plate. I like that distinction between using a number of tools or one tool versus what could it complete? And I think the list of things that you just mentioned were things that listeners and I'm saying, ⁓ yeah, I would like AI to help me with that, or that would help unlock some additional time for me to spend time how I intend, maybe doing more thoughtful work that's really human centered, maybe spending more time with my kids. ⁓ So how does someone go from, let's say I am using Cloud or Chat GPT like Google Search. Uh-oh. How can I upscale that to do more for me and to unlock a way of living a bit better using AI? Yeah, of course. So one, and this is not meant to be a plug, but one, moms build AI. am consistently releasing free resources on how to actually move beyond the search function and how to actually, you know, build with AI and use it to, you know, improve either your personal or your work life. But beyond that, one of the most important concepts with AI is this concept of prompting or prompt engineering. So to get AI to do anything, you're prompting it. You're saying, hey, can you do this? Can you figure out how to do this, et cetera? And I feel like that's a very talked about topic. You write better prompts, give more information, the AI can do more. But I realize sometimes people get stuck in the reality of or the practice of that. And so like, I want to give a really simple upgrade that I think moms can make, which is suppose, you know, you're in chat GPT, you know, if you're start, if you've never gone on chat GPT and call it, just go to those websites, get started. It's free. And the first thing I'll say is like, you want to give artificial intelligence, lot of these AI tools, these LLMs, a lot of information about the context of which you want to use them. So suppose you're a mom and you want help with the household mental load. First, just explain your situation. I have kids these ages. I have a husband. This is what my schedule looks like, et cetera. Just give context so that the results you get are actually kind of personalized, customized, and useful to you. think... Sometimes people get really stuck because they're like, ⁓ like I still had to fix it so much. Well, first try, you know, in putting it and a simple way to think about it is a lot of people, the way they will phrase it is AI is, you know, your junior level assistant. And so what I say as a follow-up is, okay, well, you have to give the junior level assistant a lot of information so that they can complete tasks the way you want, because they have no idea who they're working with otherwise. So my first kind of, you know, advice is always like, make sure you're inputting a lot of context for what you want to do. But suppose you've given the context and you're like, okay, these are regular dishes that we like eating. I want you to help me with a meal plan. They built, you you go back and forth and AI built a really good meal plan. The next thing I would prompt it is how do I make this? And you could just ask Claude. how do I make this into something repetitive and automated for me? And you can just continue prompting to almost prompt it to be like, okay, how do I make, how do I turn this from a very manual process of versus, you you automating it. And the reason I bring that up is there's a lot of terms with, you know, Claude skills and artifacts and, know, and I think people can get confused in it. And so I always remind moms when in doubt and when you feel like you're not using AI to the max capacity for the topic that you're attempting, ask AI, how could I become a power user? How could I make this more automated? Yeah, I saw you even did a post about how you can connect. ⁓ your meal planning through Claude to Instacart and they can actually add everything to your cart for you, which definitely seems like a step above and getting you all the way to complete. And it's a step-by-step journey, right? So I think it's all about starting simple and you know, as you add more capabilities and that's what I always tell people don't add more tools to your toolkit, just add more capability. How can I make You know, my interaction with AI more capable to take more things off my plate and automate more things. Um, and you know, a lot of times you'll hear AI agents, et cetera, but I would make it more simple is like the more comfortable you get in using it. But I think the most powerful thing about AI and these LLM models is that like never before could we just ask. Yeah. How do I automate this? How do I make this even more streamlined? I, I. You know, even if you build kind of a new skill or an agent, you can continue iterating on it. ⁓ and I think that's kind of, that's something that I see moms get stuck on. I think I have to keep reminding them of like, ⁓ you're so close, but you just got to keep iterate a little bit more. Cause the more you iterate, the more you customize and personalize the more the AI is going to just really be able to complete and deliver for you. So that's when you say you're training your junior associate, your iterations are training and they're going to serve you in the future. Exactly. And so I, but I think this is where, you know, why I said moms get stuck because I do think it's a lot of it for you to get the capabilities you likely want. can feel like a lot of upfront work because you know, it's all that input. But again, I take it back to my analogy of like when you You hire someone, you train someone, you're doing a lot of training in the beginning. And the nice thing is you'll make fewer and fewer improvements as time passes, but it's about kind of front loading all of that context and reasoning to kind of function beyond that. And then in terms of tools, do you have a preference between ChatGBT or Claude? I know different people seem to recommend different platforms, and I know that's something I'm confused about. Which one should I be using? So I think chat GPT was where a lot of people started. It was just a more popular consumer product. ⁓ and there's, there are a few things I still use. have both to clarify and I still use chat GPT cause you know, the Instacart example, I gave it only functions with chat GPT, but in general, the reason I pivoted away to Claude had just a lot to do with the type of workflows that I wanted. And I found Claude to be more. complete and more just easier for me to design and build with them so that's kind of why I shifted to Claude. ⁓ it I think this is a really good question but I I challenged this question a little bit because I think in the future it's not impossible that there'll be more disruptors right like I think it's very possible that in your lifetime you will use a lot of AI tools. And so one of the things I actually talk about, ⁓ you know, with moms a lot is having the ability to create really good context documents that if this new LLM comes out that you think is perfect for you and more personalized that you actually have these ready-made documents to go. So you can try like all the training you would have done that you have it almost, you know, built out and ready. So you can like, try a new tool because I do think a theme that's going to come up is having flexibility to work with different AI tools. ⁓ But as of right now, would just say, just pick one tool that you feel most comfortable with and it's easy to use because again, for you to build capability, it's all about you having a good experience. ⁓ And then just as you get more and more skilled, just create know, context documents, et cetera, if you do want to move to another tool that you can. ⁓ but I really don't, you know, I never suggest or to anyone that they start with a specific tool. It's very much, you know, whatever you feel comfortable with trying. Yes. Great. ⁓ are there any other kind of must try prompts or any ones that have been particularly popular that you've shared so far online? So I did share a workflow where you can have, ⁓ like your LLM after you've trained it a lot like text you with updates I think that's really useful just because moms are on the go. ⁓ I also want to just spotlight you know there are some really amazing AI companies that are being developed by moms so if you're really really nervous about AI and really cautious about it well there's some moms building amazing things for other moms and That's something I spotlight regularly on MomsBuild.ai, but there's tools like Ava and, you know, Ali.ai is an amazing one. It's just text-based. And they're very much targeted towards like our lives and what we need help with. Duckbill is another one. Duckbill is really interesting because it's trying to use AI and human assistance to lighten your load. And so I think those are actually amazing tools as well, and also different experiences with AI. so if kind of, you know, chat GPT and Claude is just like too open-ended and too expansive, a really simple place to start could be one of these tools that are really thoughtfully built by moms who I admire and who are trying to solve real challenges for other moms. ⁓ and then the last one. that I'll suggest, because I do think it's really built for moms, is a tool called Whisper Flow. It's a AI tool that, you you just talk and it dictates. And it not just dictates, it like organizes everything. The reason why I love that it's called Whisper and why I think it matters is I truly, on my stroller walks, am whispering. Like very quiet. Like I'm not talking, I'm like whispering while I'm walking. And I just can just take that everything I've talked about in my Stroll-O-Rock, you know, I go straight into my clod and it's just able to build six drafts before I'm even back. I think like that's, that's the beauty of it. The more it can do without me manually doing it ⁓ is great. But I really liked that tool because, you know, I think for moms, We just don't have time for like another thing to add into our schedule. And so I really like that Whisper is like an on the go, on the go tool. And that's why I actually really like tools like Alie as well, Alie, which is tech space. Because I feel like, you know, we're somewhere and we're like, hey, I need to order that thing or I forgot this, remind me of this. so I feel like because of a lot of our mental load is like on the go. ⁓ I like those tools for their flexibility. These are such practical tools and such a great explanation about AI and your position that it's here to stay and moms need to get involved in order to have a perspective and to help build AI. ⁓ Thank you so much for being here. What are your parting words? Is there anything else that you just need moms to understand about AI? I think I just want to validate all the moms out there. Your concerns are likely valid if you're worried about, you know, the impact of AI. But the only thing I want to say is like, think moms join, like when I became a mom, I told everyone I joined the most elite club, which is the motherhood club. I think moms are some of the most talented, empathetic. just incredibly dynamic human beings and I do think the AI revolution is going to change every aspect of our lives but I would feel so much better if moms were at the forefront and had a seat at the table because I truly think we will get it right if more of us are involved. ⁓ But I want to validate, you know, it's new, it's open-ended, it's... technology that's more capable than ever. But because it's all of that, I want to make sure that if you're a mom out there, it's simple. Get started. Ask questions. Just be part of the conversation. Because I think for us to get this right for our kids, we need moms in the conversation. Excellent. And I know we can find you at momsbuildai on Instagram. Anyplace else that people can find you? Yes, you can also go on the website and it has tons of free resources. It has, you know, a guide, step-by-step guide on your first 30 minutes on Claude, or if you want to try any of their tools. And I would love suggestions. ⁓ You know, what I'm hoping to also launch is a lot of, you know, on the, on the Instagram page, we also highlight moms who are building amazing AI tools and AI tips for moms we admire and you know, how they're integrating AI into their lives. But I think beyond that, I would love, you know, suggestions on, you know, if any mom out there has suggestions on what they need to be more equipped. ⁓ you know, I've been slower Maria to add a series around kids and AI and I've just started doing it because I don't want to misspeak. I want to be very careful. I take that topic, ⁓ very seriously. And so, you know, I am speaking to as many researchers, professors. ⁓ kind of policy think tanks, you know, as much as I can, because I want to make sure that anything that I support or stance I support is like very backed. ⁓ But in general, you know, I just welcome a lot of feedback and you know, I want to do this together with moms. Well, thank you so much. I think your love for the human connection shines through and I really appreciate your perspective and you spending time with us today. Thank you so much. you This is Maria, and you've been listening to That Mom. Thank you for being here. If this episode resonated, share it with a mom who needs it too. And if you're ready for more, your next episode is waiting, because every conversation here is meant to empower you to live better.