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Choose your own physics adventure! · Daniel and Kelly’s Extraordinary Universe

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Speaker 1: Hey, Daniel, if you could pick one physics puzzle for
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Speaker 1: it to be solved, which one would it be? Oh?
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Speaker 1: My gosh, off the top of my head. Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: mean like, if a physics genie suddenly pops up in
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Speaker 1: front of you and offers you to answer one question
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Speaker 1: about the universe, what would it be? Oh? Wow, I
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Speaker 1: should have been prepared for this. Maybe you should think
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Speaker 1: about it in case like this actually happens to me,
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Speaker 1: Like there are physics genies. Yeah, maybe maybe I maybe
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Speaker 1: I'm a genie, Daniel, or maybe you'll meet aliens, or
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Speaker 1: maybe I am a native You never know, maybe I'll
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Speaker 1: ask the physics genie about whether there are aliens. Hi
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Speaker 1: am Horri. I'm my cartoon and the creator of PhD Comics. Hi,
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Speaker 1: I'm Daniel Whitson. I'm a particle of physicist. But I
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Speaker 1: wish I was a physics genie. And Welcome to our podcast,
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Speaker 1: Daniel and Jorge Explained the Universe, a production of I
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Speaker 1: Heart Radio in which we take trips around the universe
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Speaker 1: and explain to you all the amazing facts the hard
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Speaker 1: one slowly learned things we've discovered about the universe not
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Speaker 1: through physics genies, but through hard fought science. Is that
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Speaker 1: something that physicists really wish they could have, like a
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Speaker 1: physics genie would just answer all your questions with the
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Speaker 1: snap of a finger or the the rub of a laptop.
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Speaker 1: I do sometimes fantasize about that because I feel like
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Speaker 1: the answers are out there, Like, you know, there is
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Speaker 1: a truth about the universe. All the questions we have
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Speaker 1: about the universe have answers, and those answers, in principle,
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Speaker 1: can be discovered, which means they're just sort of out there.
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Speaker 1: And some days I just want to fast forward to
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Speaker 1: figure it all out, and like, what are the answers
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Speaker 1: to these questions? Just tell me, tell me, tell me.
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Speaker 1: And so I wish there was a like a shortcut,
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Speaker 1: you know, to getting secrets in the universe. You're right,
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Speaker 1: it's it's all right there. In fact, it's like it's
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Speaker 1: on our fingertips. Right, It's like literally around us. You know,
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Speaker 1: questions that ancient humans had about the universe. We have
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Speaker 1: discovered answers to those questions literally by looking at the
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Speaker 1: invisible radiation that surrounds us. And so it might be
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Speaker 1: that answers to questions we have are literally surrounding us.
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Speaker 1: In ways we can't yet understand. Yeah, they're right there
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Speaker 1: waiting for us to discover them, to see them, to
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Speaker 1: hear them. They're all just sitting there, yep. And those
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Speaker 1: people will look back at us and I think, ha ha,
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Speaker 1: how silly they were. They didn't there's right on their fingertips.
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Speaker 1: They said to look at their finger and that there
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Speaker 1: there was the answer to the universe. Or sometimes I
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Speaker 1: imagine instead of just like jumping instantaneously to the answer,
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Speaker 1: which is cheating, imagine like what if I went five
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Speaker 1: years in the future and learned all that physics, How
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Speaker 1: quickly could I rediscover that now? Like what is the
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Speaker 1: shortest number of the experiments you need to do to
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Speaker 1: discover the answers today? Because that's actually possible physics genies aside.
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Speaker 1: If you knew exactly how to build these experiments, you
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Speaker 1: could learn the secrets of the universe. Yeah. So in
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Speaker 1: this podcast, we talk a lot about all the amazing
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Speaker 1: things we can find out about the universe through physics,
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Speaker 1: but we also sort of talk about all the ways
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Speaker 1: that physics can kill us. And we don't want to
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Speaker 1: give you the impression that physics is a dangerous activity.
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Speaker 1: Most people who went to physics survive just fine. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: look at Daniel, I'm not sure which lesson you should
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Speaker 1: draw from my experience, but it's sort of fun to
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Speaker 1: think also about the positive side of physics, and physics
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Speaker 1: doesn't just potentially squeeze you and burn you up on reentry.
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Speaker 1: It also potentially delivers secrets of the universe. That's a
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Speaker 1: real thing. Yeah, physics can be a real adventure and
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Speaker 1: a journey of discovery as well, that's right. And so
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Speaker 1: on today's episode, we thought we would take a tour
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Speaker 1: or some sort of potentially fun physics adventures that you
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Speaker 1: might be able to take. And so this was a
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Speaker 1: suggestion from a Twitter user who sent out this question.
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Speaker 1: He he or she gave us um four interesting physics
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Speaker 1: adventures that you could potentially go on, you know, um,
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Speaker 1: you know, journeys into answering four basic questions that physicists
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Speaker 1: have no idea about. And so today we're gonna do
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Speaker 1: something a little bit interesting, which is we're gonna be
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Speaker 1: running a pole. So Daniel a few minutes ago posted
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Speaker 1: this poll on Twitter, and I think by the time
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Speaker 1: that this podcast come out, you will still have the
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Speaker 1: chance to participate in this pool. But in this pool.
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Speaker 1: We're asking, um, we're posing four different physics adventures or
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Speaker 1: discoveries or you know, answers that you can find out there,
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Speaker 1: and we're asking what of these four would you prefer
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Speaker 1: to know? And all of these are things that most
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Speaker 1: physicists would be desperate to do with scramble for an opportunity.
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Speaker 1: And so one of the challenges here is like just
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Speaker 1: picking one because frankly, I'd like to do them all.
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Speaker 1: You're like, I'll take answer for five, all of the above, right,
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Speaker 1: I'll do them in that order or take It's like
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Speaker 1: when I see a dessert menu and I go, I'll
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Speaker 1: take one of everything. Your answer is yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: and double for the for the last one. And so
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Speaker 1: to be on the podcast, we'll be tackling the question
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Speaker 1: which of these four physics adventures would you prefer? And
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Speaker 1: so we have here here for interesting physics adventures. I
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Speaker 1: guess is I guess their their journeys you could take
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Speaker 1: on that would basically answer a basic and core question
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Speaker 1: about the universe that we don't know. Each one sort
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Speaker 1: of pushes you past a threshold of human knowledge or
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Speaker 1: takes you somewhere humans have not yet been able to
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Speaker 1: visit and hopefully reveals a deep inside into the nature
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Speaker 1: of the universe and what it means to be human. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and so the four physics adventures that we are going
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Speaker 1: to be discussing today are number one, visiting the quantum
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Speaker 1: realm with or without Paul Rudd. You are Paul Rudd
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Speaker 1: in the quantum rail everyone is Paul. Everybody looks good
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Speaker 1: at forty five in the quantum lee that's number one,
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Speaker 1: and so number two. Number two is seeing the inside
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Speaker 1: of a black hole bring a flashlight. I guess number
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Speaker 1: three going faster than light or number four visiting a
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Speaker 1: planet with intelligent alien life. And so once again, we
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Speaker 1: just posted this poll on Twitter, so check it out
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Speaker 1: and cast your vote. But at the end of this podcast,
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Speaker 1: we are going to reveal the running totals for this poll.
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Speaker 1: And I guess I should tell which tell us which
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Speaker 1: one people prefer, And if you don't like the answer,
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Speaker 1: I guess you should go on Twitter right now and
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Speaker 1: follow us in and uh and and to meet your answer.
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Speaker 1: We are crowdsourcing this question because you know, Twitter tells
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Speaker 1: the truth. And so, as usual, Daniel couldn't wait, and
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Speaker 1: so he was curious and so he went out into
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Speaker 1: the streets and asked people on the street which of
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Speaker 1: these four adventures they would rather go on. Think to
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Speaker 1: yourself for a moment, which of these would you prefer,
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Speaker 1: and then listen to these answers. Would you prefer to
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Speaker 1: visit the quantum realm, see inside of a black hole,
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Speaker 1: go faster than light, or meet intelligent aliens. Here's what
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Speaker 1: people had to say. Going faster than the speed of
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Speaker 1: light seems pretty cool. Inside a black hole would be
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Speaker 1: pretty interesting. I feel like it would be cool to
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Speaker 1: see some aliens because I like to see how they
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Speaker 1: would teach physics, source chemistry or whatever. If you try
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Speaker 1: to fasten in the speed of fact, you can have
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Speaker 1: a back and forth in dimas. I would choose the
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Speaker 1: black hole. That's the one that interests me the most,
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Speaker 1: just because I feel like I don't know much about
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Speaker 1: black holes or anything like that. Cool. Either one I
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Speaker 1: want to see what happens, or I want to know
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Speaker 1: what happens. You won't try to fast in the speed
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Speaker 1: of light just to see what happens. Yeah, or the
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Speaker 1: black hole one. Let's say faster the speed of light. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: let's just see what happens. Yeah, just seems like the
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Speaker 1: craziest one to aliens, because that seems like the most fun.
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Speaker 1: I feel like Interstellar already tackle too, so like I'm
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Speaker 1: not as interested. Three is definitely I think that would
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Speaker 1: be the coolest. Yeah, intelligently, Yes, what would you talk
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Speaker 1: to them about? Man, I don't even know. I'd probably
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Speaker 1: just be like, can I even talk to them? That's
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Speaker 1: the first thing. Can I have any kind of meaningful
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Speaker 1: exchange of information? If I could even do that? That
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Speaker 1: it's crazy. I think I want to see what's inside
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Speaker 1: a black hole, going to a planet to see alien life?
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Speaker 1: All right? What was that? I think it would be
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Speaker 1: amazing to think that there would be all the living
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Speaker 1: things in the universe. It's scared to think that there
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Speaker 1: are others, and it's scary to think that we all.
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Speaker 1: I have no idea what the quantum realm even is,
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Speaker 1: so I wouldn't necessarily choose that one. Intelligent life sounds
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Speaker 1: pretty awesome, although it could be also a dangerous and
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Speaker 1: hostile place, but if I was guaranteed of some safety,
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Speaker 1: that would be an interesting one. Al right. Not a
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Speaker 1: lot of fans with the quantum realm, not that many.
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Speaker 1: They're like, we saw that movie already there was a sequel.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't that good. I don't want to I don't
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Speaker 1: want to go back. And you know, they did a
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Speaker 1: pretty good job in that movie. So maybe people feel like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: that one sort of scratched off the list. I think
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Speaker 1: the biggest takeaway from these is that people had a
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Speaker 1: hard time choosing because they all just did sound attractive.
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Speaker 1: People like, what, what? What have to choose? One? Just one?
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Speaker 1: Are you sure? And that's to visit the black Hole,
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Speaker 1: going faster than light through the quantum realm with an
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Speaker 1: alien next to me? That is the dream come true?
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Speaker 1: Or did I just make you? Did I just make
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Speaker 1: you palpatate a little bit? That's the deep fried banana
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Speaker 1: Sunday of options with a snicker bar, Nickers barn. You know,
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Speaker 1: there's this story I remember in Chicago which will deep
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Speaker 1: fry anything for a dollar? And really, yeah, you can
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Speaker 1: bring m giving your I phone, they'll fry it. They
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Speaker 1: will for a dollar. You can bring a Snickers bar,
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Speaker 1: you can bring a pair stuffed in gorgons ola, cheese
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Speaker 1: or whatever you like. One dollar. They'll fry anything, all right.
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Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about each of these four possibilities.
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Speaker 1: Um and visiting the quantum realm. Go this going inside
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Speaker 1: a black hole going faster than light or meaning intelligent aliens,
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Speaker 1: and then at the end we'll reveal the running results
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Speaker 1: of the Twitter poll. So number one visiting the quantum
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Speaker 1: realm Daniel. First of all, why would you want to
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Speaker 1: visit the quantum realm? Well, I think this one is
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Speaker 1: attractive because quantum mechanics is so weird, and there's so
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Speaker 1: many things about quantum mechanics. The way particles don't really
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Speaker 1: have a path, they don't like fly through space, the
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Speaker 1: way they can do things that balls and ships and
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Speaker 1: planes can't do. That makes people want to go there
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Speaker 1: and see it and visualize it, right, because um, I mean,
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Speaker 1: we all live in a quantum universe, but those quantum
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Speaker 1: effects don't really you can't really see them or experience
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Speaker 1: them unless you are sort of at that size, really
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Speaker 1: really small. Yeah, So what do we mean by the
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Speaker 1: quantum realm? You know these rules about quantum mechanics, like
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Speaker 1: you can't know the position of a particle and its
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Speaker 1: speed at the same time, or particles can be on
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Speaker 1: one side of a barrier and then all of a
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Speaker 1: sudden on the other side without going through the wall.
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Speaker 1: All these things apply only to the microscopic particles like
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Speaker 1: electrons and photons and stuff like that. They don't apply
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Speaker 1: to the things in our world, and so it feels
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Speaker 1: like there's a different set of rules. So we call
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Speaker 1: the quantum realm. For me, what it means is the
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Speaker 1: place where those different rules apply. And that's fascinating because
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Speaker 1: I'm a physicist. I want to understand how the universe works.
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Speaker 1: And so if I can go visit a place where
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Speaker 1: the different rules apply and sort of like get an
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Speaker 1: intuition for it, that would be totally fascinating, because intuition
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Speaker 1: is something we really lack when it comes to the
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Speaker 1: quantum realm. Right, But I guess my question is what
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Speaker 1: does it mean to visit the realm? Is it like
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Speaker 1: you shrink down like Atman and you're like seeing an
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Speaker 1: electron in front of you the size of your own size,
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Speaker 1: or doesn't mean like, you know, existing your mind existing
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Speaker 1: in that sort of same sort of quantum fuzziness where
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Speaker 1: you're sort of multiple things are happening at the same time.
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Speaker 1: It sounds like you want to go to the quantum
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Speaker 1: realm and figure it out. I guess you just smoke something,
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Speaker 1: and I'm truly it will be a similar that's a
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Speaker 1: different realm, I think, But it's not even really clear.
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Speaker 1: The question makes sense if you want to be strict
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Speaker 1: about it, because how do you experience the quantum realm?
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Speaker 1: How do you go down there and and become part
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Speaker 1: of that world? Because you are a macroscopic object, you
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Speaker 1: are a big collection of tend to the thirty protons
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Speaker 1: and electrons and stuff. How could your consciousness exist at
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Speaker 1: that scale? What would it be like to experience it?
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Speaker 1: I think that's why I think the heart of the
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Speaker 1: question really is to get an intuition for the quantum realm,
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Speaker 1: to like see its inner workings and how it makes
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Speaker 1: sense to me, that's what going to the quantum realm means.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how you do that, or if it's
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Speaker 1: actually possible, or if humans will ever do that ever
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Speaker 1: outside of Marvel cinematic universe, but it certainly is appealing,
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Speaker 1: right So to you it means sort of like existing
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Speaker 1: in that quantum state, like you are your multiple realities
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Speaker 1: at the same time. Yeah, I'd like to live I'd
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Speaker 1: like to have an experience of being in the universe
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Speaker 1: where the quantum will supply and the large scale. Yeah, well,
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Speaker 1: either I'm shrunk down to the quantum realm or blow
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Speaker 1: the quantum realm up to make it apply to big stuff.
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Speaker 1: You know, Like I have an intuition for what happens
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Speaker 1: when I throw a ball in the air. I have
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Speaker 1: that intuition, not my physics knowledge, my intuition because I've
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Speaker 1: done it and I see what happens. And as a kid,
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Speaker 1: you throw a ball into an air a thousand times
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Speaker 1: and you know what's going to happen. I don't have
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Speaker 1: that same intuition for what happens when electrons bounce around
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Speaker 1: around hydrogen atoms because I haven't seen it. I haven't
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Speaker 1: experienced it. I've only calculated it. So I'd love to
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Speaker 1: spend time with an electron enough to like get familiar
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Speaker 1: with it, so I like have a sense for what
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Speaker 1: the rules are for that they make sense to me. Instead,
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Speaker 1: you want to ride an electron, like you want to
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Speaker 1: be like next one and be like, hey, wait, so
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Speaker 1: we're here. No, No, it's o're there kind of thing. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you just proposed the world's smallest amusement park right now,
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Speaker 1: standard line for my hydrogen item. What already has an
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Speaker 1: amusement park named the Electron Hydrogen Mountain. Yeah, I want
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Speaker 1: to an ELECTRONO want to get down in there. I
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Speaker 1: want to see what it's like. I want to really
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Speaker 1: understand it so that when we talk about quantum mechanics,
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Speaker 1: I can feel like, oh, yeah, I've been there, I
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Speaker 1: know how that works. That totally makes sense to me.
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Speaker 1: I see, because this idea of like um the cat
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Speaker 1: being a dead and alive at the same time ensure
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Speaker 1: the anger is box is sort of counterintuitive and it
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Speaker 1: doesn't drive with our experience of the physical world. So
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Speaker 1: you want to be in a world where you can
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Speaker 1: experience the cat being alive and dead at the same time. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I want to live in that world, so I get
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Speaker 1: used to it, so that doesn't sound crazy to me
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Speaker 1: when we do these calculations, because currently the way we
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Speaker 1: grapple with quantum mechanics is we just sort of follow
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Speaker 1: the math. We found these rules that applied to quantum mechanics,
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Speaker 1: quantum field theory, and quantum mechanics, and we can turn
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Speaker 1: the crank and say, if you do this experiment, that
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Speaker 1: this other thing is going to happen. But it's not
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Speaker 1: like you can really understand it. You just sort of
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Speaker 1: follow the math and believe it and say, well, the
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Speaker 1: universe follows this math. So I guess that's correct, and
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Speaker 1: we can test it. We do the experiments, but it's
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Speaker 1: not like it still makes sense to me in any
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Speaker 1: reasonable way. Right, but I thought you hated cats, Daniel.
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Speaker 1: I love cats. It's just that my daughter's allergic. All right, Well,
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Speaker 1: let's um. Let's see how visiting the quantum realm is
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Speaker 1: doing on our Twitter poll. Hold on, all right, right now,
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Speaker 1: visiting quantumwell is in third place, third place? All right,
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Speaker 1: what's the percentage of response response of people are into
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Speaker 1: visiting the quantum realm? Currently number one is meeting intelligent
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Speaker 1: aliens up at thirty six, up at Bernie Sanders levels.
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Speaker 1: So quantum realm not doing so good. Less I want
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Speaker 1: to go visit the quantum Yeah, quantum realm is sort
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Speaker 1: of the tom sty or physics options. All right, Well,
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Speaker 1: let's get into visiting inside of a black hole and
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Speaker 1: traveling faster than light and talking to aliens. But furs,
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Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break, all right, Daniel, we are
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Speaker 1: going down through our list of physics adventures that people
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Speaker 1: might choose to go on or not. So the next
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Speaker 1: adventure we have here is seen inside of a black hole? Again, Daniel,
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Speaker 1: why would you want to do that? Why wouldn't you
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Speaker 1: want to do that? Oh my gosh, why do I
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Speaker 1: get to come back out? I guess it's my question. Okay,
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Speaker 1: this is a one way fair. Okay, return trips are
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Speaker 1: not guaranteed. Oh I see, so that maybe we should
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Speaker 1: have a caveat like see inside of a black hole
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Speaker 1: and never leave again. And how that be the last
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Speaker 1: thing you ever see. I think it would probably be
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Speaker 1: be less popular. No, this is not for trick questions.
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Speaker 1: I guess you know, what's the point of going inside
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Speaker 1: a black hole if you can't then come back out
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Speaker 1: and win five Nobel Prizes because your discovery of quantum
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Speaker 1: grounds your friends about it. Yeah, yeah, so I guess
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Speaker 1: return trips should be guaranteed. But right, so, so we
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Speaker 1: get to go inside of a black hole, have that experience,
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Speaker 1: look around, see what the physics are like, and then
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Speaker 1: come back out. Yeah. And to me, that's fascinating because
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Speaker 1: black holes are they're like a hidden, little secret corner
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Speaker 1: of the universe. They hold the answers to some of
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Speaker 1: the deepest questions in physics, but they're frustratingly impossible to penetrate.
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Speaker 1: And well, it's not like they're hiding it. It's just that, uh,
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Speaker 1: inside of a black hole are conditions which sort of
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Speaker 1: like break all of our physics laws, right, And so
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Speaker 1: you want to go in there and see what's going on. Yeah, Like,
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Speaker 1: let's say I devised an experiment that would reveal the
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Speaker 1: deepest nature of the universe, all the way down to
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Speaker 1: the smallest elements, and then I locked it in a
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Speaker 1: room that and threw away the key, and I said, oh, yeah,
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Speaker 1: the answers they're in there, but nobody can ever go inside.
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Speaker 1: That's basically what's going on with the black hole. You know,
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Speaker 1: like if you went in there, would you able to
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Speaker 1: It's not like you would find a paper with the
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Speaker 1: answers to the universe or they'd be written on the
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Speaker 1: walls of the black hole. It'd be like a whole
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Speaker 1: bunch of crazy stuff going on in there. Would you
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Speaker 1: even like be able to piece it together? Yeah, you'd
18:00
Speaker 1: have to do some experiments, but we have to do
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Speaker 1: some science. Yeah, just like in our universe, you know,
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Speaker 1: the laws of the universe and not just written on
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Speaker 1: the walls. The physics is an actual job. You know um,
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Speaker 1: and you have to do some experiments, but very quickly
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Speaker 1: you could learn some things. For example, you know, we
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Speaker 1: have two different theories of how the universe works, and
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Speaker 1: they disagree deeply about what's happening inside a black hole.
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Speaker 1: For example, most people are probably familiar with the description
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Speaker 1: of the inside of a black hole that comes from
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Speaker 1: Einstein's theory of general relativity that says that there's like
18:34
Speaker 1: a singularity at the heart of a black hole, a
18:36
Speaker 1: point of infinite density. Wouldn't you like to see that? Like,
18:40
Speaker 1: if that's truth, that's real of Einstein was right, what
18:42
Speaker 1: would that look like? And so if you enter the
18:45
Speaker 1: black hole, you could boom, you'd be there with it.
18:47
Speaker 1: You could hang out with the singularity. You could ask
18:49
Speaker 1: you what it had for lunch. Oh, I see you
18:51
Speaker 1: want to go in there? And actually I go up
18:54
Speaker 1: to the center of it and see it's like, oh,
18:56
Speaker 1: it is a singularity. It's not a little fuzzy blob
18:59
Speaker 1: as quantum mechanics would imply. If I'm going all the
19:01
Speaker 1: way inside a black hole, I'm not going to be
19:03
Speaker 1: shy to go to the core. You know, I'm going
19:06
Speaker 1: all in. Yeah, if you're visiting the house of your
19:09
Speaker 1: favorite science, which you're not just staying in the living room,
19:12
Speaker 1: You're going all the way inside. I'm sleeping in their bed. Yeah, no, exactly,
19:17
Speaker 1: because quantum mechanics and general relativity, these two pillars of physics,
19:21
Speaker 1: they disagree about what happens when gravity gets really strong.
19:26
Speaker 1: And the only place where gravity is strong enough to
19:28
Speaker 1: reveal what actually happens when gravity gets really strong is
19:32
Speaker 1: inside a black hole, which is frustratingly impossible to visit
19:36
Speaker 1: except on the mental journey of this podcast. Well, I
19:39
Speaker 1: guess my my my question is um. So I guess
19:41
Speaker 1: it would tell you whether general relativity or quantum mechanics
19:45
Speaker 1: is right or whether there's something else going on. Uh.
19:48
Speaker 1: And you would learn also about quantum gravity, right, whether
19:51
Speaker 1: or not it's possible. Yeah, we think that probably gravity
19:54
Speaker 1: is a quantum theory, but you know, we don't know
19:57
Speaker 1: is gravity of force that transmits quantum particles and we
20:01
Speaker 1: can't tell because it's so weak that we can't see
20:03
Speaker 1: those particles, or is it not? Is it just a
20:06
Speaker 1: curature space and time? And you quantize it by quantizing
20:10
Speaker 1: space itself, like making a little space pixels, and so
20:13
Speaker 1: we could see that if we were near enough the
20:16
Speaker 1: center of a black hole to understand, like, you know,
20:19
Speaker 1: is general relativity correct and space itself is quantized um?
20:23
Speaker 1: Can we see gravitons inside the black hole? Like? People
20:26
Speaker 1: have been looking for theories of quantum gravity that actually
20:29
Speaker 1: work for since we've had quantum mechanics and since we've
20:33
Speaker 1: had gravity. It's been about a hundred years, which is
20:35
Speaker 1: a long time in physics. You don't just want to
20:38
Speaker 1: go in there and experience it yourself. You want to
20:40
Speaker 1: go in there with a whole like lab and grad
20:43
Speaker 1: students and like instruments. I want to build a lab
20:47
Speaker 1: inside a black hole. Yeah, I want that is my lab.
20:50
Speaker 1: You know, Like at the particle collider, we have created
20:53
Speaker 1: on purpose conditions that don't exist anywhere else, smashing particles
20:57
Speaker 1: together very high energy because those that can stands that
21:00
Speaker 1: are going to reveal the secrets of the universe. And
21:03
Speaker 1: so a black hole is like that to the bagiliant power.
21:06
Speaker 1: And so yeah, that's where you see what's right and
21:10
Speaker 1: what's wrong. Um, I guess the question is how could
21:12
Speaker 1: you even do it? Because if you try to get
21:15
Speaker 1: near a black hole you kind of get shredded to pieces. Right,
21:18
Speaker 1: So is this even possible or is this totally wishful thinking?
21:22
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty much totally impossible. I mean, we
21:26
Speaker 1: if you get anywhere near a black hole, then the
21:28
Speaker 1: tidal forces will tear you apart because gravity is so strong,
21:32
Speaker 1: but its strength depends on the distance. And so when
21:35
Speaker 1: you get close to a black hole, gravity is tugging
21:38
Speaker 1: on your feet much more strongly, for example, and it's
21:40
Speaker 1: tugging on your head, which means that it's literally pulling
21:43
Speaker 1: your head off of your body. And that's not a
21:45
Speaker 1: good thing. I don't know who you are. I frowned
21:50
Speaker 1: upon that kind of thing happening to me. Um. And
21:54
Speaker 1: the closer you get to the black hole, the stronger
21:56
Speaker 1: that effect is. So anything that gets near the black
21:58
Speaker 1: hole just gets shredded. And then of course, if you
22:01
Speaker 1: actually do somehow arrive at the event horizon, you're just
22:04
Speaker 1: going to be squished by the incredible forces. Um. You know,
22:08
Speaker 1: but we did, I mean, I want to leave a
22:10
Speaker 1: threat of tendrib possibility here. We did once talk about
22:13
Speaker 1: whether you could destroy black holes, and there was this
22:16
Speaker 1: idea that if you like added enough spin to the
22:19
Speaker 1: black hole, you might delete the event horizon while leaving
22:22
Speaker 1: the singularity in there, and that's not going inside it,
22:26
Speaker 1: but it's sort of like exposing opening it, opening a
22:30
Speaker 1: window into a black hole. Yeah. Um, so that could
22:33
Speaker 1: be fascinating, but that wouldn't really be a black hole.
22:35
Speaker 1: You'd be deleting the event horizon and revealing a naked singularity,
22:38
Speaker 1: which would be awesome and fun and probably really dangerous,
22:42
Speaker 1: but not technically going inside a black hole. So this
22:44
Speaker 1: one's on the wish list, but the probably not ever
22:47
Speaker 1: actually possible. This well, let's see how going inside of
22:51
Speaker 1: a black hole is doing on our Twitter poll. It says, um,
22:54
Speaker 1: the inside of a black hole? Is that respondence, So
22:59
Speaker 1: seventy percent of people are picking going inside of a
23:02
Speaker 1: black hole? Also not not doing so well. Not doing
23:05
Speaker 1: so well. It's surged ahead of quantum realm, but points
23:09
Speaker 1: since we last talked about it. Maybe people are listening
23:11
Speaker 1: to the podcast through time traveling. Maybe they're inside of
23:15
Speaker 1: black hole and they get to do what really want exactly,
23:19
Speaker 1: because you know, an interstellar when you go inside a
23:20
Speaker 1: black hole, time is a dimension you can talk to
23:23
Speaker 1: your children from from beyond the grave dot dot dot
23:26
Speaker 1: dot dot nonsense. Well, so far we have three D
23:29
Speaker 1: and forty four votes, which is a lot of friendies.
23:32
Speaker 1: Having posted it a few minutes ago, and again a reminder,
23:34
Speaker 1: if you're listening to this podcast, the poll is probably
23:37
Speaker 1: still open, and so you can go check it out
23:39
Speaker 1: and place your vote. You can sway the results because
23:42
Speaker 1: you know, one of these things, Jorge will actually fund
23:44
Speaker 1: this to happen, depending on what it means, I will
23:48
Speaker 1: I will actually do it, and this will be the
23:50
Speaker 1: last episode of Daniel and Lain the Farewell Tour. All right, Well,
23:55
Speaker 1: the third option in our poll is to travel faster
23:58
Speaker 1: than light, and so we had isn't in the phantom
24:00
Speaker 1: realm seeing side of a black hole and going faster
24:03
Speaker 1: than light? And this one is doing pretty good on
24:04
Speaker 1: the pool. A lot of people are picking this one.
24:06
Speaker 1: And you know, this one surprises me a little bit
24:08
Speaker 1: because to me, this one is the least appealing. Really,
24:13
Speaker 1: I mean, this is my favorite, this is your favorite? Okay, well,
24:15
Speaker 1: I would be picking this around and you why do
24:17
Speaker 1: you want to go faster than the speed of light?
24:19
Speaker 1: Is because you want to make moose noises and say
24:21
Speaker 1: warp speed nine make it so um well, I guess
24:26
Speaker 1: you know it goes to that, you know, desire to
24:30
Speaker 1: travel and visit other planets, you know, like right now,
24:33
Speaker 1: the problem is that everything is too far away, right,
24:35
Speaker 1: and so it'd be cool to like, you know, get
24:38
Speaker 1: on a spaceship, fly out out of the galaxy and
24:40
Speaker 1: look at the Milky Way. So is it that you
24:42
Speaker 1: want to get places that you can't get right now
24:45
Speaker 1: because of the speed limit, or you actually want to
24:47
Speaker 1: have the experience of going faster than the speed of light?
24:50
Speaker 1: Would you prefer a wormhole or FTL travel? I really
24:53
Speaker 1: just want to travel places, and so if you have
24:55
Speaker 1: a wormhole, sure I'll take that. But also travel fasting
24:58
Speaker 1: faster than light just sounds cooler, you know. I think
25:01
Speaker 1: a lot of people reacted to that. It just sounds cool,
25:03
Speaker 1: Like they want to see what it feels like, and
25:06
Speaker 1: it feels illegal and super zoomy, and so they want
25:08
Speaker 1: to go out there and you know, stick their head
25:10
Speaker 1: out the window while going fast speed of light and
25:13
Speaker 1: see what it feels like. Probably as good as going
25:16
Speaker 1: into a black hole. I imagine, probably hands in the vehicle.
25:19
Speaker 1: People keep your hands in the vehicle. So you think
25:22
Speaker 1: there's something um illicit about going faster than light like
25:25
Speaker 1: that appeals to people. Yeah, I guess it sounds exciting,
25:29
Speaker 1: but I can't really imagine what it would that would
25:32
Speaker 1: be that exciting, because, you know, traveling really fast in
25:36
Speaker 1: a airplane doesn't feel that exciting. You know, it feels
25:39
Speaker 1: kind of boring. I've flown at six dred miles an
25:42
Speaker 1: hour from here to Hong Kong or whatever. It's not
25:45
Speaker 1: super exciting. I'm not sticking my head out the window
25:47
Speaker 1: and going we But imagine where you would be. You know,
25:50
Speaker 1: if you could travel to Hong Kong and in less
25:54
Speaker 1: than a second, that would be kind of cool. Oh yeah,
25:56
Speaker 1: I mean not right now, maybe, but totally. If the
25:58
Speaker 1: question was would you like to teleport to an arbitrary
26:01
Speaker 1: place in the universe, totally I would do that the second.
26:04
Speaker 1: And I got a list of places I want to go, right,
26:07
Speaker 1: But do I really want to go there at some
26:09
Speaker 1: super high speed. I don't even go skiing. I'm not
26:12
Speaker 1: like a fast driver. I'm not that into speed. You're like, whoa, whoa, Well,
26:16
Speaker 1: slow down, Why would you even want to go that fast?
26:19
Speaker 1: I don't really want to go at the speed of light.
26:21
Speaker 1: Why would you want to go faster than the speed
26:23
Speaker 1: of light? Exactly? Um, And you know I don't like
26:26
Speaker 1: roller coasters, and so I guess that's what this one
26:29
Speaker 1: doesn't appeal to me from this sort of advent your
26:31
Speaker 1: excitement point of view either. But you would want to
26:33
Speaker 1: travel to another star if it was convenient and easy. Sure,
26:36
Speaker 1: I want to go visit other stars. I want to
26:39
Speaker 1: go see what other planets. You're like. I want to
26:40
Speaker 1: walk on the surface of other planets and moons. I
26:43
Speaker 1: just want to see it on your TV, not actually
26:45
Speaker 1: go there. I want other people to figure out how
26:48
Speaker 1: to get there, figure it out and make it safe,
26:49
Speaker 1: and then yeah, I want to teleport there while eating snacks.
26:52
Speaker 1: But I guess my question is, you know you're going
26:55
Speaker 1: faster than light, which the universe says is impossible. So
26:58
Speaker 1: what weird things happen to you while you're sitting on
27:01
Speaker 1: that plane going faster than light, Like would time go
27:03
Speaker 1: backwards maybe? Or would things just go all wonky and
27:07
Speaker 1: and break the universe? So that I think is an
27:10
Speaker 1: interesting bit, right, It's not the excitement is seeing the
27:12
Speaker 1: needle going all the way to three million meters per second.
27:17
Speaker 1: It's I guess the excitement of seeing what breaks. And
27:19
Speaker 1: you're right, you can't go faster than the speed of
27:22
Speaker 1: light according to our understanding of the laws of physics.
27:27
Speaker 1: And you know, people say, oh, time would go backwards
27:30
Speaker 1: and stuff that's just sort of nonsense. It's another way
27:32
Speaker 1: of saying, you can't do it because nonsensical stuff would
27:35
Speaker 1: happen if you tried. This is one reason why you
27:38
Speaker 1: can't do it, because it would require, you know, things
27:41
Speaker 1: that don't make sense to happen. So what do you
27:43
Speaker 1: think would happen? Would would time go backwards inside of
27:46
Speaker 1: a like I would get on the plane and then
27:49
Speaker 1: I would get there, and it was before I got
27:52
Speaker 1: on the plane I think. I think the simulation that
27:55
Speaker 1: is our universe would crash and somebody would have to
27:57
Speaker 1: restart it. Or what I d age like, would I
28:00
Speaker 1: would time run backwards inside of that airplane and then
28:03
Speaker 1: I would get off younger? Well, you know, if you
28:06
Speaker 1: extend our understanding of special relativity, time always moves forward
28:10
Speaker 1: for you, and your clocks change based on other people's
28:14
Speaker 1: observations of your speed. So if you're moving fast in
28:18
Speaker 1: the speed of light, then I would look at your
28:20
Speaker 1: clock and it would look like it was running backwards
28:22
Speaker 1: to me, but to you, time would be moving forward.
28:24
Speaker 1: So if I'm looking at your spaceship, you would be
28:27
Speaker 1: d aging, I guess on the spaceship. But to you,
28:31
Speaker 1: time is always just moving forward at one second per second.
28:34
Speaker 1: So it sounds like weird stuff would happen. But it's
28:37
Speaker 1: also impossible. You're saying, I think it's totally impossible. Um,
28:41
Speaker 1: so that part doesn't excite me too much. But I
28:43
Speaker 1: guess you know, if somebody said, all right, I've built
28:45
Speaker 1: this machine can take you fasten the speed of light.
28:48
Speaker 1: It actually does work, then yeah, you know what I
28:50
Speaker 1: would get in it? And I would go on, turn
28:54
Speaker 1: it on. Let's see what happens. Um, I would like
28:57
Speaker 1: to know what it's like to go fasten the speed
28:58
Speaker 1: of light. All right, I've changed my mom It is exciting. Well,
29:02
Speaker 1: a lot of people need to agree it's gonna it's
29:04
Speaker 1: It's pretty popular in our pool right now, a lot
29:06
Speaker 1: of people would choose to go faster than light. And
29:08
Speaker 1: so we have one more scenario here, which is to
29:10
Speaker 1: talk to aliens, and so we'll get into that and
29:13
Speaker 1: we'll see what people think about that. But first let's
29:15
Speaker 1: take a quick break. Al Right, down there are last
29:30
Speaker 1: scenario here in our Choose your Own Physics Adventure game
29:33
Speaker 1: did you read those as a kid to choose your
29:35
Speaker 1: own adventure books? I totally did. I like map them
29:37
Speaker 1: all out on pieces of paper. I read every single
29:40
Speaker 1: page and yeah, absolutely, Oh wow, you're trying to break it.
29:46
Speaker 1: I was trying to solve it. Those are well, my
29:50
Speaker 1: son recently got into those and I read them again.
29:52
Speaker 1: I was like, these are kind of dark, like you
29:55
Speaker 1: die a lot. You die a lot, but you are
29:57
Speaker 1: there's always another path and which you win. Right, So
30:00
Speaker 1: there's like a liberation there for the writer gets to
30:03
Speaker 1: explore darker scenarios than otherwise because they can just balance
30:06
Speaker 1: it out with positive endings. I guess if you go
30:09
Speaker 1: do go to the quantum realm, I would that's the
30:11
Speaker 1: kind of book you would want to take because then
30:13
Speaker 1: you could read all the possibilities at the same time.
30:15
Speaker 1: Maybe those were written in the quantum realm and that's
30:18
Speaker 1: why they're so weird. All right. Well, our last scenario
30:22
Speaker 1: here that we are pulling people to choose is whether
30:26
Speaker 1: you want to talk to aliens or meet intelligent aliens.
30:30
Speaker 1: And by this you mean like go to them or
30:32
Speaker 1: they come to you, or you call them, or they
30:35
Speaker 1: happen to be your neighbor. What do you mean dinner.
30:37
Speaker 1: I don't mean you skype them, because you spend the
30:39
Speaker 1: first ten minutes being like, can you hear me? What?
30:42
Speaker 1: What your pictures present? And that's not the way to
30:44
Speaker 1: have the first conversation with the intelligen them or give
30:47
Speaker 1: them a hug. No, I think the question is visit
30:50
Speaker 1: their planet, like, go to a planet with intelligent alien life.
30:54
Speaker 1: And to me, this one is fascinating. This is absolutely
30:57
Speaker 1: my number one choice by far. No surp Daniel, I'm not.
31:00
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised at all, and not just because you've
31:05
Speaker 1: had your hand over the alien blooded this whole hour
31:08
Speaker 1: we've been talking. You're like kind of president. Yeah, accidentally
31:13
Speaker 1: elbows a couple of times, and not just because meeting
31:16
Speaker 1: aliens would be fascinating on its own, but also because, hey,
31:20
Speaker 1: maybe they've solved some of these other problems, so maybe
31:23
Speaker 1: you could like do the all the above right, Maybe
31:25
Speaker 1: this is tell you what it's like inside of a
31:28
Speaker 1: black hole, or to go faster than life without you
31:30
Speaker 1: having to do it, yes precisely, Or maybe they give
31:34
Speaker 1: you a ride on their faster than my black Home
31:36
Speaker 1: Quantum realm Um roller coaster and then you get the
31:39
Speaker 1: answers to all these problems. I guess you're assuming that
31:42
Speaker 1: if we meet an alien civilization, they would be more
31:45
Speaker 1: advanced than us. Well, that's a good question. If they
31:48
Speaker 1: come to us, I think it's fair to assume that
31:50
Speaker 1: they are more advanced than us, because we can't currently
31:52
Speaker 1: do that if we go to them, if we meet
31:54
Speaker 1: intelligent aliens on their planet, then you're right. There's no
31:57
Speaker 1: guarantee that they have technology that's advanced further than us,
32:01
Speaker 1: but at the very least they've advanced differently from us.
32:05
Speaker 1: They have a different way of looking at the universe
32:07
Speaker 1: and thinking about the universe, and that already will be insight, right,
32:11
Speaker 1: They'll be unique experience and unique ideas and unique science. Right.
32:15
Speaker 1: That would be good for the biologists, right, But maybe
32:17
Speaker 1: not for the physicists. No. I think also for the physicists.
32:21
Speaker 1: I think, for example, even if you just like ran
32:23
Speaker 1: the human experiment over again from scratch up to this year,
32:27
Speaker 1: you would get different physics every time because you'd have
32:30
Speaker 1: different people having different ideas um and you would think
32:34
Speaker 1: about the world differently. So I think the way we
32:37
Speaker 1: have thought about the universe depends not just on being
32:40
Speaker 1: humans and how the human mind works, but on the
32:42
Speaker 1: particular human minds we've had. And so if you met
32:47
Speaker 1: other intelligent aliens who are just as advanced as us
32:50
Speaker 1: or nearby, they would have had different ideas and that
32:53
Speaker 1: would be fascinating. Well, I said, you want to talk
32:55
Speaker 1: to the alien philosophers too, Yeah, of course, alien philosophers
33:00
Speaker 1: and physicists. Um. I mean, don't you want to meet
33:02
Speaker 1: the alien cartoonists and things? I want to be like,
33:06
Speaker 1: how do you make democracy work? Like? Oh, yeah, we
33:11
Speaker 1: outlawed Twitter years ago. Yeah, that's the key. That's a
33:15
Speaker 1: mouthstone in any civilization. Internet shutting down the Internet, that's
33:19
Speaker 1: the next singularity. Outlowing Twitter. Um no, I think it'd
33:24
Speaker 1: be fascinating. You've learned so much about what it's like
33:27
Speaker 1: to be intelligent. Um. You know, for example, do they
33:31
Speaker 1: even use mathematics? What kind of mathematics do they use?
33:33
Speaker 1: Do they count our integers special to them? So many
33:37
Speaker 1: questions just about the very basics of the way their
33:40
Speaker 1: minds might work. You think some of the things we
33:42
Speaker 1: think are fundamental, like numbers and integers, are maybe not
33:47
Speaker 1: that fundamental. Maybe there's another way to think about math
33:50
Speaker 1: and the universe. Yeah, because this is the only way
33:53
Speaker 1: we've ever thought about it, because it's the only way
33:55
Speaker 1: we can. And so seeing a new perspective, a new
33:58
Speaker 1: way of thinking about things, will tell us exactly that.
34:01
Speaker 1: It's like when you go on a trip and you discover, oh,
34:04
Speaker 1: people don't eat cereal for breakfast everywhere around the world.
34:07
Speaker 1: I thought that was a core part of the human experience. Nope,
34:10
Speaker 1: it turns out, you know, quas songs are more fundamental
34:13
Speaker 1: than checks, you know, in the human experience. And so
34:16
Speaker 1: you learn about is a famous French particle, right Quastantino?
34:23
Speaker 1: Actually cool? So so this is your favorite scenario talking
34:28
Speaker 1: to aliens? Yeah, but you know, I seeing its praises
34:31
Speaker 1: that make it sound like we'd show up and we've
34:33
Speaker 1: learned the secret to the universe by early afternoon, and
34:36
Speaker 1: we'd be sipping alien espresso and then you'll be out
34:39
Speaker 1: of there, like that's enough talking to other living beings.
34:43
Speaker 1: I am an introvert, after all, I'd be like, can
34:45
Speaker 1: I get a break from on this conversation? Um? But
34:48
Speaker 1: the reality, I think would be much more difficult. Even
34:51
Speaker 1: if you assume that they're intelligent and they're alien, which
34:53
Speaker 1: means they're similar in a biological way and in an
34:57
Speaker 1: intellectual way for us to recognize their intellig as they
35:00
Speaker 1: would still be huge hurdles to like basic communication before
35:04
Speaker 1: we got to talking about mathematics and particle physics and
35:07
Speaker 1: all sorts of cool stuff. And I guess, unlike the
35:10
Speaker 1: other scenarios here today, this one could actually happen. It
35:14
Speaker 1: might happen, This will happen, will happen, will happen unless
35:20
Speaker 1: we kill ourselves and you know, or fry our planet
35:23
Speaker 1: before we can manage it. I'm totally confident that eventually
35:27
Speaker 1: humans will walk on a planet with intelligent alien life, eventually,
35:30
Speaker 1: I guess, eventually about having to travel faster than light. Yes,
35:34
Speaker 1: eventually eventually doing a lot of work there, because it
35:37
Speaker 1: might take hundreds of years or thousands of years for
35:40
Speaker 1: us to get off this planet and get to neighboring
35:43
Speaker 1: um solar systems. But I can't imagine a galaxy in
35:46
Speaker 1: which it's not just chalk filled with intelligent alien life.
35:50
Speaker 1: And so I really hope, I guess it's a hope.
35:52
Speaker 1: I don't really know. I really hope that some humans
35:55
Speaker 1: someday has that experience of putting their foot down on
35:58
Speaker 1: a planet with intelligent alien life. I really believe right
36:01
Speaker 1: getting even that digested by that alien, but hopefully not,
36:06
Speaker 1: hopefully not, and at least did they do if they
36:08
Speaker 1: have a nice alien espresso to follow it up with. Well.
36:12
Speaker 1: According to our Twitter pool, this is also everyone's favorite
36:15
Speaker 1: option of our for physics scenarios. It's got the highest
36:19
Speaker 1: number of votes on our Twitter pool. Good job, tweets,
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Speaker 1: I'm proud of you. Yeah, people would rather talk to alien.
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Speaker 1: I wonder if they're just trying to please you, Daniel.
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Speaker 1: If so, they've done it, but it seems like it
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Speaker 1: is sort of like a basic human curiosity. I mean,
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Speaker 1: more than any of the other things which sound cool
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Speaker 1: to people. Want to talk to aliens. Who doesn't want
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Speaker 1: to talk to aliens? I mean, I think a lot
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Speaker 1: of people think that aliens exist, and for good reason. Um,
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Speaker 1: I mean, not that we've been visited, or the area
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Speaker 1: fifty one is real, or any of those silly conspiracy
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Speaker 1: theories like Bobblazar, but that they're out there. And in
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Speaker 1: that same way, you know, if they're out there, if
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Speaker 1: they're real, if there's aliens out there right now having lunch,
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Speaker 1: then it's I'm desperately curious to know about them and
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Speaker 1: it's frustrating to imagine there's this barrier between us and
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Speaker 1: this knowledge, this knowledge which would change the way it
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Speaker 1: feels to be human and what it means to be human.
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Speaker 1: It's frustrating. Well, I have to say, um, it's not
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Speaker 1: my favorite, but it does sound pretty cool. So you'd
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Speaker 1: be willing if this was the only option available and
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Speaker 1: you would sign a future I would. Yeah, all the
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Speaker 1: other options are are filled up. I see you overslept
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Speaker 1: and by the time you showed up for the Physics
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Speaker 1: Adventure camp, I have to take this one. You know,
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Speaker 1: I have enough trouble avoiding real humans. Why it seems
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Speaker 1: like I don't need more more things to talk to. Well,
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Speaker 1: maybe you're an alien and this would be like going
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Speaker 1: home for you, where everybody just stays home and doesn't
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Speaker 1: talk to anybody. Well, I think it's interesting to think
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Speaker 1: about all of these possibilities and to think about which one,
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Speaker 1: you know, you would like to go on, because it
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Speaker 1: sort of tells you a little it about you know,
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Speaker 1: what we wish for deep down as humans. You know,
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Speaker 1: God places look inside of a hole that's a mystery,
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Speaker 1: you know, experience things that are totally different, and talk
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Speaker 1: to things that are in aliens that are totally different.
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Speaker 1: It's sort of like basic human response. Yeah, absolutely, I
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Speaker 1: think that that's why the universe is so fun to study,
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Speaker 1: because it has these mysteries, and those mysteries have answers.
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Speaker 1: You know. These are not like m questions like does
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Speaker 1: Heaven exist? Or what is the afterlife or things that
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Speaker 1: we might not possibly ever know the answer to. These
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Speaker 1: are questions that have real answers that we will eventually
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Speaker 1: figure out. And so that's why these mysteries are fascinating
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Speaker 1: because they're right there at our fingertips, and we never
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Speaker 1: know when the big breakthrough will happen. Maybe be tomorrow,
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Speaker 1: maybe in a hundred years, but some human will know
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Speaker 1: the answers to a lot of these deep open questions
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Speaker 1: about the universe. Yeah, and hopefully we will be alive
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Speaker 1: at that point, that's right, so we can sider in
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Speaker 1: our couch eating snacks and read all about it, reading
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Speaker 1: choose your own adventure books. Well, I just looked at
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Speaker 1: the Twitter poll again, Daniel, and it looks like Faster
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Speaker 1: than Light just went up a point and Visiting Aliens
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Speaker 1: went down a point. So who knows, maybe by the
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Speaker 1: time this podcast comes out, it will be totally different,
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Speaker 1: or maybe I can. Maybe by us talking about it,
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Speaker 1: we're influencing the poll quantum causality violation poll. Wait, Daniel,
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Speaker 1: are you saying you're gonna give a dollar for every
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Speaker 1: vote the talking to alien sk Is that true? Give
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Speaker 1: a plank dollar? Well, I guess if it sways anyone,
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Speaker 1: I would have to say, if you can go faster
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Speaker 1: than light, you might be able to visit aliens on
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Speaker 1: your travel. So it's like you can get both. Maybe
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Speaker 1: if you choose faster than light. All right, that's a
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Speaker 1: pretty good argument. I'll take it. All right. Well, the
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Speaker 1: Twitter poll is going to be up for a week,
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Speaker 1: So if you are listening to this podcast and you've
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