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Healthy Preds feat. Michael McCarron & Dr. Lance LeClere · Predators Official Podcast

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This is the Predator's official podcast here on Nashville
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Predators YouTube, ESPN1O25, The game and your preferred podcast
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platform Mid Olympics edition. As the Preds get ready to hit
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the ice next Thursday in the return from the Olympic break on
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February 26th. We've got tons of Olympic
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updates coming your way. And also in about 15 minutes, an
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interview with Predators head team physician Dr. Lance Leclair
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and also Preds player Michael McCarron talking about the
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inside work between a NHL medical director, team doctor
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and NHL players from our friends at Vanderbilt Health.
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It's going to be a lot of fun. Thanks for joining us here on
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The POP. My name is Max Herz from Preds
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Radio along with Brooks Bratton from nashvillepredators.com.
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Brooksy, the Olympics have been a treat so far.
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We are recording here on Thursday, February 19th.
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Some people will be hearing this after the Olympics are over or
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after some games that we're going to talk about have already
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happened. We are talking right now the USA
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women have won the gold medal with a dirty overtime goal for
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Megan Keller and we are headed into the men's semifinals on
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Friday the 20th and the gold medal game on Sunday the 22nd.
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But boy, have these hockey tournaments delivered in the
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Olympics. I'm still trying to collect my
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thoughts after what we just watched, as you said, as we
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record on Thursday afternoon after Megan Keller just ended it
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in overtime for the USA. We were here watching it in the
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office at Bridgestone Arena, and I hope nobody was on a meeting
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nearby because I was hooting and hollering.
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Let me tell you, I'm surprised I still have vocal cords,
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honestly, because it's not often that we get to cheer for a game,
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right? Like when we're watching it, you
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can't really cheer. I mean, maybe more so a little
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bit for you when you're broadcasting Max, but I'm
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sitting in the press. They can't be jumping up and
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down and hooting and hollering. So, yeah, what a what a showing
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for the US women to capture gold.
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Canada gets the silver as they beat them in overtime.
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And combine that with the men's games that we have seen so far.
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And my goodness. I mean, we talked about it,
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especially when the Olympics roll around.
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And obviously this is the first time in 12 years at the NHL has
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been to the Olympics. But international best on best,
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I don't think it gets better than that.
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Not only from a simple perspective of a fan watching
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the game, but for growing the game, right?
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We, you know, folks like us that are in the sport, myself
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especially, I'm biased, but I think hockey's the greatest
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sport in the world. And when you have the eyes of
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the world on the game that you love, it's really a special
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thing. And that's what you get come
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Olympic time. And yeah, we're going to be
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riding a high of this whole episode after the women captured
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gold there. But yeah, you mentioned at the
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he's doing quite well at the Olympics, too.
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Yeah, we've got Preds headed into the Olympic semifinals
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tomorrow. UC Soros will be in net against
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Team Canada for Team Finland. Eric Holla has had a great
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tournament as well. And the Fins had a pretty crazy
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comeback against Roman Yossi and Team Switzerland in the
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quarterfinals on Wednesday. I thought Yost and the Swiss
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were going to get it done. Brooks, man, were they close to
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advancing to the medal round. But Finland came back and got
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him. Yeah, no, I did too.
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I mean, I think we knew going in of what Roman Yossi meant to
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Team Switzerland. He was their captain.
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He was the only Preds player that has been there previously
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to the Olympics, his second Olympics this time around.
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But boy was he good. And every time you watch
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Switzerland and they had a couple of 5:00 AM Central Time
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games and I was up for those two.
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And, you know, a little bleary eyed at that hour of the
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morning. But Yost really wakes you up
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when he gets going on the rush. And yeah, what a pleasure to
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watch him. You realize how much he drives
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that team. He, you know, when he gets in
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that setting, we get the pleasure of seeing him every
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night. But on the international stage,
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you realize that, yeah, he is the best Swiss player not only
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on that team, but the best Swiss player of all time.
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And just what he does for that team, driving the offense and
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then being sound on the defensive side of the puck as
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well. Unfortunately, as you said, it's
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it's so weird too, right? Like, fortunately,
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unfortunately, yes. You're happy that you see Soros
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and Eric Collar advancing, but you're sad for Roman and I, you
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know, we don't want to confirm this or anything, but you
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imagine it's probably his last Olympics unless he keeps playing
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for four more years, which never say never.
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But you have to think when you watch that it's just tough to
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see a journey like that come to an end this time around.
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And former Preds forward Kevin Fiala, of course, ended up with
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a couple of leg fractures in the game against Canada as well.
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So a tough break there for Switzerland.
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And they had a great little run. And again, Roman Yossi is is
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certainly the catalyst behind that team.
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So it was fun to watch him play. And we got to see a little bit
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of Philip Forsberg play as well once he got going in the line up
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there. Yeah, we've heard it from a lot
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of people now. Barry Trots, Andrew Renette,
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Steven Stamkos. Nobody really knows why Philip
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Forsberg barely played in the first couple of games for
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Sweden, but he took it like a good teammate from all accounts
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and what we've heard in the media coming from Italy.
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And when you play Philip Forsberg, Philip Forsberg scores
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as Team Sweden is finding out. But they were not able to beat
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Team USA, a really close game. USA won in overtime in the
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quarterfinals. So USA versus Slovakia in the
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final and we will see the the two eliminated Preds Olympians,
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Philip Forsberg and Roman Yosi, the two best players in Preds
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history, will be back sometime in the next few days for a
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practice or two before the Preds returned to action on Thursday.
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So it's been a lot of fun. I hope everybody's been
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watching. Congrats again to the US women
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on their big gold medal. Third gold medal for Team USA.
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Man, this is the best team they've ever had.
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I know that 98 team was special, but this is this is the best
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women's team that Team USA has ever had.
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And they took down Canada. So I think you can make the
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pretty easy argument that this is the best women's Olympic team
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ever from any nation. Well and anytime they play
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Canada in recent memory they have gotten the victory and
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you'll remember earlier in the Olympics when the US women face
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Canada, it was a 5 nothing game and it really wasn't a contest.
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And I don't know that anybody thought this cold medal game was
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going to be another blow out like that.
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But for the US it took him over 58 minutes in regulation to
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score a goal. I'd also don't know that anybody
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saw that coming as well, but Canada, and we heard it a lot
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during the broadcast. There's such an experienced team
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and maybe you were seeing a little bit of that, a younger
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faster U.S. team but didn't have the experience in a gold medal
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game that a lot of the Canadians did.
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But who else but Hillary Knight, the leading goal scorer an all
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time for the US women's Olympians, going to the net,
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tipping in a shot from the point and then Megan Keller with The
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Dirty goal in overtime. So again, I you know, we touch
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on it and just the hockey at this time of year is fantastic.
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And of course, we'd have to mention friend of the show Kevin
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Morley, who is also still over there with Team USA.
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I've actually seen him behind the bench a few times.
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You you don't know like he he's not the head athletic trainer
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over there. So you don't know is he behind
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the bench? Is he hanging out in the runway?
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But he has been on the bench and it's, I don't know, it's just
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kind of cool when when you're watching a game halfway around
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the world and it's kind of like Buddy the Elf.
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I know him to see him on television.
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They're behind the bench. But yeah, best of luck to Kevin
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and Team USA, of course, proud Americans.
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I think we're a little biased cheering for for the Americans,
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but you know, and for UC Soros as well, like Finland had a
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little bit of a tough start. They lost in the opening game,
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and since then, Juice has recorded three straight wins.
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Eric Hollow with a few assists. And it's just cool to see.
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I I think all four of these representatives on the ice for
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the Preds have certainly done Nashville proud.
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They've all been on the score sheet.
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They've all contributed in different ways, You know, kind
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of juice obviously being in that.
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And it's just been cool to see, you know, we've talked about it
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so much on the on this show and the NHL going back over there
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and, and obviously you want your guys to do well, but you never
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know what can happen. You never know how things are
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going to play out. But it's been really fun to not
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only watch them, but to see the guys that we get to see on a
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daily basis show up on the score sheet, making saves in the net
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and and doing what they can to to help their countries along.
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And we know that the Fins, at the very least, you're going to
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play for a medal, right? There's only four games left,
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semis on Friday to determine who's in the bronze and who's in
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the gold. So at the very least, UC Soros
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and Eric Hollow will have a chance in a medal.
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And that's really cool. So Congrats to them so far and
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we'll wrap that up next time when we when we talk to you
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sometime next week on what actually happens.
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But yeah, Max, you touched on it as well.
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Like the guys are back at practice and it's kind of like
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coming back, you know, for the first day of school, they're
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coming back for spring break. Like everybody's in a really
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good mood. That tends to be the case when
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you have 10 days off and some guys get to the beach and few
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guys we know got home to Canada and participated in some winter
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sports with some Olympic fever there.
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But I don't know about you, but it's it was nice to have a
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break. But it's been really good to see
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the guys the last couple of days again, too, and they're fired up
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to be back. Yeah, and it's a team that
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really barely got to practice in the 2-3 months before this
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Olympic break. So the the practice is needed.
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And as we speak here on Thursday the 19th, the Prince have had
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two practices back. They are scheduled to have four
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more on Friday morning, Sunday morning, Monday morning and next
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Wednesday morning before they play again on Thursday, February
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the 26th. And they get back to action with
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a home game against the Blackhawks for the first game
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back from the Olympics. But yeah, the the first day was
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puff touches get everybody back up to speed.
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And then Thursday morning they were able to get hitting a
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little bit more, had some battle drills and then played a three
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on three tournament with Olympic style teams there.
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There are 15 Pred skaters who are not in the Olympics.
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So it was three teams of five with line changes in three on
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three. It was Team Ontario, Team USA
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and the rest of Canada, plus Adam Willsby.
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Our European numbers, first of all, are very low when the
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Olympics are going on. We've lost four of our Europeans
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and we're down to just two right now with Willsby and Eustace on
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in it. And the goalies were playing for
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everybody, so we couldn't have a Team Europe.
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We only had one guy, but it was a spirited 3 on three affair and
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Team Ontario, led by Steven Stamkos, Michael Bunting, Ryan
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O'Reilly and Nick Hague and Luke Evangelisa won the three on
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three. It was a fun day.
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That's a good crew. That's a good team right there.
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Not surprising that they won. And I don't know about you, Max,
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but they, you know, usually it's Centennial when they're going
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for about an hour or so, they'll start on one side and head over
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to the other side. So they were back on the rink
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closest to their locker room, if you're familiar with Centennial,
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and they had it set up for the three on three.
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But we had come back over after the first half of practice was
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done. And who do we see standing on
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the bench in a referee jersey? But Craig Partner BA, the
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legendary Predators locker room attendant.
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I couldn't help but laugh and smile.
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I I thought it was awesome. And Craig was over there.
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I think Pete Rogers helped him raise his arm a couple times as
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guys were calling for penalty shots.
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But I did he call a penalty the whole time, Max?
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I think he let the boys play. Partner did not call a single
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penalty and afterwards Preds coach Andrew Burnett, who I
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think his partner's number one fan in the universe, said it was
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probably one of the best officiated games we've had all
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year and that he thought Partner was exceptional refereeing from
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the bench. And Team Ontario called Partner
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out on the ice for a celebratory picture after the win.
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So he's the commissioner of the league, he's the referee and he
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didn't call a single penalty partner well.
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What can't he do Well, and he was, he was bragging a little
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bit in the room afterward, too. He he knew he was the star of
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the show. I think Brady Shay gave him some
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kudos for calling a good game. And I told him I because we had
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talked to Andrew Brunette and like you said, Max Bruno said
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probably one of the best officiated games we've had all
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year. And I, I told Craig, I said, you
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know, Bruno was said you probably did one of the best
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jobs he's seen all season. And, and Craig said, Yep, no
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doubt he he knows. And I think Nick KEGG agreed
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with that too. But, yeah, and, you know,
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something like that, I think we knew that they probably weren't
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just going to skate up and down the ice for five straight
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practices going into into next week.
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And it's good to have something like that, right?
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I, you know, asking brunette about that as well, just to
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break up the monotony of it a little bit, get the guys going.
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And as you said, Max, right, like you're getting back into
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it. Your legs are just a little
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sore. You're a little weary of, you
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know, you haven't skated them in a week or so.
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And that was a fun little nuance to, to Thursday's practice.
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So there's a there's been good energy.
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I I think the guys, you know, you appreciate just with how
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compact the schedule has been. You obviously appreciated the
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break, but there's that rejuvenation to get back.
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Now there's only 25 games to go in the regular season.
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The pressure still very much in the thick of that.
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They know that they need to come out and continue winning the
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week, adopt that mantra, keep it going.
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But there's definitely an excitement there.
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And I think you'll start to see it ramp up before the games get
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going again next week. But yeah, it's good to be back.
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And you know, the weather is warmer here in Nashville and it
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just feels like springtime. You can see the light at the end
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of the tunnel, at least as the far as the regular season is
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concerned. And the guys know what they have
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to play for. And we're excited to see how
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that plays out. But it's good to good to get
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back. It's again, you appreciate the
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break, but you know this is the Preds are here to to do a job
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and they're excited to see what they have with 25 games left
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here. And we'll be back in action on
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Thursday night, February 26th, for the first game back from the
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Olympic break on home ice against the Chicago Blackhawks.
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Coming up next, we have a special interview courtesy of
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our friends at Vanderbilt Health.
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And Vanderbilt medical doctor Lance Leclair is one of the
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Predators team physicians and the head of the Predators
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medical operation. He will join us along with
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Predators play Michael McCarron to talk about the medical
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relationship between NHL players and their medical staff.
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And you'll hear it from Michael McCarron himself, why he thinks
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that the Preds and Vanderbilt have the best medical situation
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of any NHL team due to that valuable partnership with one of
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the best hospitals in the world. That's coming up next.
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This is the Predators official podcast.
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I'm Max Sears from Preds Radio with Brooks Bratton from
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nashvillepredators.com. The POP here on ESPN1O25 The
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Game. Welcome back to the predators
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official podcast here on ESP 1025 the game streaming on preds
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YouTube and a whole slew of other spots.
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Brooks, Brad, and alongside my friend Max, her is once more.
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And Max, this is a first on the POP.
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I don't think we've ever had two interview guests at one time,
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but we're excited for this one. So we've got Predator centerman
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Michael McCarron, who a lot of you will probably recognize a
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gentleman may not know. However, Doctor Lance Leclair,
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A-Team physician for the Nashville Predators at
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Vanderbilt University, and we wanted to get a little bit of
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the player medical team physician relationship going on
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this chat. So gentlemen, we're excited to
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have both of you and and Doctor Leclerc.
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I'll start out with a few for you here as Max and I get going.
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One, I guess the obvious question to start, how on earth
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does 1 become a team position for a National Hockey League
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team, especially the Predators here in Nashville?
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Well, thanks, Brooks. I, I think, you know, the
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question for me is how does, how does the team position end up on
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the Predators official podcast? I, I'm, I'm a listener, I'm, I'm
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a fan of the podcast. I never thought I would be a
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guest. So it's a, it's really
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incredible to be, to be with you guys today.
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So thanks for the invitation, but no, I think, you know, I've,
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I've wanted to be an orthopedic surgeon ever since I was in high
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school. And the, the draw to being an
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orthopedic surgeon was the ability to, to work with
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athletes and keep them on the field of play on the ice and
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participating in their sport, helping them play the game they
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love. And that's always been a big
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draw. And I think, you know,
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orthopedics, that's an essential component of what we do.
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And there's a sub specialty field within orthopedics where
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you could do an extra year of training and, and spend time in
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the sports medicine environment. And there's a lot to learn in
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that year, But that's kind of the career path.
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But I think above all, you've got to be somebody who's
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interested in in working with a team and helping athletes
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achieve their goals. And I think when when you start
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with that, then it's a lot of mentorship, a little bit of luck
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and, and some hard work along the way.
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And I've certainly been the beneficiary of some great
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mentorship and some great opportunities and just happened
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to come my way and couldn't ask for a better scenario.
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Being the the medical director for the National Predators.
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It doesn't get any better than that.
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So, Doctor Leclair, what all does your role with the Preds
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entail, both on a day-to-day throughout the year and
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specifically when there's a game going on?
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Well, I think first and foremost, our primary
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responsibility ability is to keep the players healthy and on
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the ice. And, and you know, a lot of that
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is preventative, you know, helping make sure that we have
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systems in place along with Kevin Morley and the sports
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medicine staff to do everything we can to keep them performing
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at their very best. And then I think, you know,
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everybody knows unfortunate and unfortunate part of sports and
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especially a sport like hockey is that injuries are part of the
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game. We try to minimize that as much
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as we can. But a big part of what we do is
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help these guys get back on the ice when they as soon as we can
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help them achieve their goals of getting back to play with their
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teammates. But also keeping in mind that we
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want to keep them healthy for the long term so that they can
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eventually retire from hockey on their own terms and not because
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of a medical reason. We also have to make decisions
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that help keep them healthy for when they're, you know, older in
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life and they're teaching the sport to their kids and their
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grandkids. And so those are our big
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responsibilities is first and foremost, doing the best things
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we can, best thing we can for our athletes and our players.
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And I think a lot of that is the partnership and the
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relationships. And that's the really important
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part of what we do is team positions.
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You can't be a good team position if you're if you don't
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have that relationship built on trust for the players and with
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the with the organization and most especially with the the
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athletic training staff. That's where we're really lucky
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at Vanderbilt to work with Kevin Morley and DJ Amario, Jeff
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Biddle and and Doug Agnew because that's just, you won't
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find a better staff than in the NHL than those guys.
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And so the ability to work with them to, I joke with my wife at
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the beginning of every season, Kevin kind of moves above her in
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the speed dial because Kevin and I talk more than my wife and I
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do during the season because we're constantly checking in on
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the guys and seeing what we need to do to keep them, keep them
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healthy and on the ice. Friend of the show Kevin Morley,
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by the way, another recent reviewee over in Milan at the
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Olympics right now. But Lance, you touched on it
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there. Obviously, the goal is to help
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the players remain healthy. We want everybody on the ice.
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So how do you approach that role?
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What is kind of the the mindset that you have as as a team
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physician, the medical director for the Preds when you're
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dealing with things of this nature?
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Well, first you have to assemble a good team.
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You know, my, my specialty is orthopedics and you know, I do
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surgery on shoulders and knees. But you know, we have, we have
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eye injuries. We have, we have hip injuries,
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we have, you know, General Medical issues.
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And so you first got to build a really good team because we want
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to get our athletes in the hands of the best possible medical
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providers that we can. And so we have to assemble a
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good team. And thankfully at Vanderbilt, we
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have the opportunity to really bring in some world class
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experts in their fields. And so we built a really good
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team that makes the best, best possible medical personnel
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available to the to the players. And if you see us at the game,
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you'll see there's we, we've got a pretty big group.
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We've got about eight of us in the stands that are there to
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help support the guys from all different sub specialties.
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And I think the second goal is that we want to, we want the
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players to know that we're here for them.
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You know, we want to build that trust and a lot of that goes
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into, you know, I don't want the first time that one of these
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guys sees me or beats me to be, you know, when they've come off
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the ice with an injury. I want to be around, I want to
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see them. I want to develop those
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relationships that so that they know who I am.
20:35
And I know our whole medical staff does the same thing.
20:37
We want to build that relationship.
20:38
So these guys know just inherently that our primary goal
20:41
is to keep them healthy and keep them on the ice, support the
20:44
organization as best we can. So it's a lot of relationship
20:48
building and just building that trust that, hey, we're looking
20:51
out for you, we got your back. That's Doctor Lance Leclair, the
20:54
Predator's medical director from Vanderbilt Health.
20:56
And Doctor Leclair, you mentioned it there.
20:58
The team doctors sit in the crowd when the game is going on
21:02
and then go down when they're needed.
21:04
What is it like getting the bat signal and having to rush down
21:07
after you see an injury to go and help somebody?
21:09
Sometimes we, we have a heads up, you know, obviously we can
21:12
see what's unfolding on the ice, but you really don't know what
21:15
you're what you're going to walk into in the evaluation room
21:17
until you get down there. And you know, you kind of just
21:20
get yourself ready mentally to get in the right headspace to do
21:24
the best you possibly can to help our athletes and our
21:26
players. We do take care of the other
21:28
team too, because they're guests and they don't, most NHL teams
21:31
don't travel another, they don't travel their own physicians.
21:34
We also take care of the reps So we're kind of comprehensive care
21:37
for everybody. So you're, you're, you're
21:39
mentally just getting yourself ready for OK.
21:41
Am I going to order X-rays? And like, do I need to get a
21:43
laceration kit? Do we need to get plastics down
21:46
here to show up a, a laceration? What are we, you know, kind of
21:49
assembling the needs of what we need to do to take care of the
21:53
of the team? Talking to Doctor Lance Leclair
21:56
and Pred Center Michael Mccarran here on the Preds official
21:58
podcast. And Mac, let's get you in here.
22:01
So I want to know the player physician relationship.
22:05
It's I, I would imagine it's probably someone you don't
22:09
necessarily want to talk to because that probably means
22:11
you're dealing with an injury. But as we said, it's part of the
22:14
game. How do you view the player
22:17
physician relationship when you as a player need?
22:20
Care. Well, yeah, I think you just
22:21
said it like usually if you're chatting with them about
22:25
something, it's it's not good, but at the same time, they're
22:30
nothing but but great to have. I've been here for six years.
22:33
I mean, I've gone through some injuries here myself, nothing
22:35
serious, knock on wood. But you know, every time I pop
22:39
in, I try to say hi. They're always very welcoming
22:41
and and very easy to talk to. And for instance, let's say you
22:46
have, you know, you come off with a bad groin after the first
22:51
period, you know, they're going to be in there.
22:53
You can go in and chat with them and they can kind of see how you
22:56
are, what, what's going on, like the likelihood of going back,
23:00
what would, what would happen or if they would shut you down.
23:04
So, you know, with me being here for six years now, it is great
23:08
to know them, you know, personally and professionally.
23:12
So it's, it's really easy to talk to them.
23:16
I, I try to tell the young guys and, and guys who haven't been
23:18
here to, to get in here and to get into the trainer's room and,
23:21
and, and say hi because you never know when the time is that
23:24
you're going to need them. And it's usually not at a great
23:28
time. So if there's a personal
23:29
relationship there, it is. Makes it a little bit feels more
23:32
like home, I'd said. Well, Mike, you mentioned it
23:34
there like the, the, the personal relationship that you
23:37
want to have with someone. And again, like we said at the
23:40
top, it's the you, you don't necessarily think about the team
23:43
physician all the time, but as a player, how do you view the
23:47
importance of the role of the team doctors?
23:49
How vital are they and helping you get back to full strength
23:53
after suffering an injury? Well, yeah, it's, I mean, it's
23:55
huge. We have a, we have a medical
23:56
staff that, that travels with us full time and, and you guys
23:59
mentioned it, Kevin Morley and his team, but they're not
24:02
necessarily doctors. They can't, you know, they can't
24:06
order an X-ray or order an MRI. You know, most likely they're
24:09
calling Lance or we have a few other doctors that are around
24:14
that are always on call. Like do you have, I got a bad
24:17
hit to the head in a game. I have to go through what's
24:20
called concussion protocol and Kevin can put me through that.
24:23
But there also needs to be a physician on the line.
24:25
So, you know, I remember, I don't know if you did 1 Lance
24:29
with me recently, but I just had one, I think in Calgary.
24:33
But yeah, so they're huge. You need them.
24:36
You need them a part of your team.
24:39
Like kind of what I said about the groin, Like they can, they
24:43
can determine whether, you know, it's safe to go back and play or
24:47
not. And you know, their their
24:50
decisions have been, you know, pretty, pretty spot on over my
24:53
six years here, nothing crazy has happened where on other
24:55
teams you hear about all these, you know, crazy stories.
24:59
I think here with Vanderbilt, the Vanderbilt staff, I mean,
25:03
they're world renowned for a reason.
25:05
And we have the best of the best here and we're very lucky as
25:07
Predators players. Talking with Predators medical
25:09
director Doctor Lance Leclair and Preds player Michael
25:12
Mccarran. Doctor Leclair, what is
25:14
something you think people would be surprised to know about your
25:17
role as a team physician? Well, I think I, I don't know
25:21
about surprise, but I think this probably is least surprising if
25:25
you're a fan of the Predators. But I think probably probably
25:28
the thing that's been most gratifying.
25:30
I'm relatively new to the role. I just got here into into
25:33
Nashville about five years ago. But the thing that's been
25:36
incredibly rewarding is being a part of the organization.
25:39
Just how the leadership from the top down supports the players,
25:43
supports the medical staff and really is just a world class
25:47
organization. Like I said, I don't think
25:49
that's a surprise to anybody. But it's really been eye opening
25:52
for me as a team position to see, you know, to see everybody
25:56
just in lockstep and in terms of, you know, going about their
26:00
business with the high level of excellence and really trying to
26:02
do the best thing to to win Stanley Cup and and do
26:06
everything to support the players.
26:09
I think in terms of just the day-to-day surprise might be
26:12
just all hours of the phone when the phone calls come in and the
26:16
text messages and some of the strange scenarios that you hear,
26:19
you know, sometimes in the offseason of like, wait, what
26:22
happened? But we're always we're always
26:24
available and always on call. Your best attribute as a team
26:27
position is your availability and just being available to
26:30
answer the call when it comes in.
26:33
You know, I, I think there's probably some stories that we,
26:36
we can't share over the airwaves that just surprising from a
26:39
medical perspective, but you're always ready to help and, and
26:43
jump in and support where needed.
26:45
Michael, we've heard it before as well, and you just kind of
26:47
touched on it like getting in the room, getting to know the
26:50
doctors, the trainers, that sort of thing.
26:52
But like from an organizational standpoint, as a player, how
26:56
important is it to know not just your teammates and not just the
27:00
coaches, but as you said, the trainer's, the support staff,
27:04
everybody else around you? Because there's so much more
27:07
that goes into it than just the guys on the bench, as you well
27:10
know. And I think most of our fans
27:12
would probably presume that. But how important is it for you
27:16
to just get to know everybody in the organization because
27:19
everybody has their role and kind of makes everything tick.
27:23
Yeah, you just kind of said it makes everything tick, makes the
27:25
world go around. Our trainers, our medical staff,
27:28
our even our equipment guys too. Like we don't have those guys.
27:32
We don't go on the ice. Same with medical.
27:34
Like if we're if our bodies not working at at you know, 100%
27:38
we're not going to have a great game individually.
27:42
It is great to know them. I think the predators number
27:45
one, I think we have a really family based style organization,
27:50
which I mean the doctors, the trainers, everybody's always
27:54
invited to, to, to to parties. We just had a big Christmas
27:59
party. It was great to see, you know,
28:02
Doctor Leclair and and his and his family come and and support
28:08
and be with the players and our wives and our families.
28:11
I like how it's very family orientated.
28:13
Our organization. I think Barry's done a great job
28:15
with. That and Lance will finish on
28:17
this one. What is maybe a loaded question,
28:20
but what's the best part about being a team position in the
28:24
National Hockey League for the Nashville Predators?
28:26
What do you get out of it the most?
28:28
I think it's the sense of supporting somebody in in
28:30
achieving their goals. I think it's, it's really
28:33
gratifying. I mean, my, I love sports
28:35
growing up, but I knew my athletic career was fizzling
28:38
shortly after high school and I realized I wasn't going to get
28:40
any taller than five, nine and a half and my arms are really
28:43
short and that my athletic career was over before it
28:46
started. But to be able to support these
28:48
world class athletes that are the best in their craft in the
28:51
world and see them achieve their goals and live out their
28:54
childhood dreams and knowing that you're it's a small part,
28:58
but playing a small part and helping them achieve their
29:00
goals, especially in their times of need, when they're injured or
29:03
when they have something going on medically.
29:05
It's so gratifying to be a small part of that and to lead a team
29:09
that does an excellent job of, of dedicating themselves to
29:13
these athletes and this organization and achieving their
29:15
goals. It's really incredible.
29:17
And, and it translates to my practice.
29:19
I mean, so many things that we learn on the field or or on the
29:24
ice in terms of we want to push the frontiers of sports medicine
29:27
and, and that's what these athletes help us do.
29:29
And we learn so much from our day-to-day and taking care of
29:33
them that we take directly into our office and then into our
29:35
surgical suites and operating rooms to to help us take care of
29:39
our patients. So it's really mutually
29:40
beneficial. It works both ways, but it's at
29:43
at the end of the day, it's really about seeing these guys
29:46
succeed. And nothing makes me happier
29:48
than if I have got it. I've got a guy who's post op
29:51
that, that scores a goal, you know, that I've operated on and
29:53
I see him score a goal or, you know, lay down a big hit and
29:57
then the shoulder holds up and you're like, oh man, that was
30:00
awesome. That was great, You know, And so
30:02
to see that, to see the the guys to win achieve their goals, to
30:07
be on the ice, living out their childhood dreams, there's
30:09
nothing better than, you know, just supporting that that
30:11
effort. We love seeing the shoulders
30:13
hold up. But Doctor Leclerc Mack, thanks
30:15
for doing this. It's it's been great to get some
30:17
insight. We appreciate both of you taking
30:19
some time and hopefully everybody stays healthy.
30:22
But we know if the if the guys need care that they're in good
30:25
hands. But thank you both for doing
30:26
this. We really appreciate it.
30:27
Yeah. Thanks for having us.
30:29
Thanks for having us. Doctor Leclair, we'll see you in
30:31
a couple weeks or about what is it, 6 days?
30:34
Yep, Yep. See you soon all.
30:36
Right. Bye, guys.
30:36
He's ready. Michael Mccarron's ready to go.
30:38
Gentlemen, thanks again for joining us today.
30:41
We'll be back in just a moment here on the Preds official
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Podcast on ESPN 1025 the game and Preds use.
30:54
Welcome back to the Predators official Podcast here on ESPN
30:57
1025 The game streaming on Fred's YouTube.
31:00
I'm Brooks Bratton alongside my friend Max Herr is back with you
31:04
on the program. Our thanks once again to Doctor
31:06
Lance Leclair and Michael McCarron.
31:09
As we said, you don't want to really go see the doctor, but
31:11
when you have to, you know that they're in good hands.
31:13
And Max, you're a proud Vanderbilt alum.
31:15
You got to be happy with the the care that is being provided.
31:19
Yeah, I go to Vanderbilt Medical for many different types of
31:23
doctors. That wasn't a very medically
31:26
eloquent sentence, but I do. And I first of all, thank you to
31:31
Doctor Leclair for listening to the podcast, which he says he
31:34
does all the time. And I really wanted to ask him
31:36
who his favorite Preds player was and see if he was going to
31:39
say Michael McCarron while Michael McCarron was here.
31:41
But I restrained myself. Well done.
31:43
Well, Mac asked me on Thursday during practice.
31:47
He's like, what Is that OK? Did I do OK?
31:49
It's like Mac, you did great. We're amazing.
31:51
He crushed it. Now we're we're grateful to them
31:53
for giving us some time. So thanks again to them for
31:56
shedding a little light there. You, Max, alongside our friend
32:00
Willie Donnick, hosted Smashville Live on Wednesday
32:03
night and had Barry Trotz on the show, which she's been in the
32:07
news a little bit lately. Of course, we spoke a lot about
32:10
him a couple episodes ago as he announced his plans to retire,
32:14
but you and Willie got more into that during the show.
32:16
And I know it's always great to talk to Trots.
32:18
He always gives you a ton of great stuff, but there was
32:21
something in particular that we wanted to touch on here today.
32:24
Yeah, Mary Trots opened up a little bit in front of a great
32:27
crowd of Preds fans at Brewhouse S on Wednesday night.
32:31
About his specific reasons and kind of the timing of his
32:35
decision to retire. You know, there's a number of
32:37
things. I, I wasn't very healthy last
32:39
year. I had a lot of people don't
32:41
know, I had like 5 eye surgeries at 2 hospital stays even.
32:44
You guys didn't even know a lot of that.
32:46
And you know, it was a real tough year.
32:49
And then, you know, I had some family things with my father and
32:52
my wife's mom back in, in Canada.
32:55
It's not easy where they live for us to get there.
32:59
And then you know, when I, when I signed on to to do this job a
33:03
few years ago, I said to ownership, I will let you know
33:06
that my intentions if I get to the end of the contract, if I go
33:10
further or, you know, as soon as I know what my end date is, I, I
33:17
will let you know. And I, it really hit me when I
33:20
went to Sweden. Actually, we went over to Sweden
33:28
the played in the, the global series gaming the Penguins.
33:33
We had a couple days off and it actually is my granddaughter's
33:35
5th birthday. And they happen to be in, in
33:38
Spain with the, they do world school.
33:42
So they travel and they, they, they live in different areas of
33:45
the world. They're going to Japan.
33:47
And in September. And it was her 5th birthday just
33:51
happened that I was in Stockholm.
33:53
We had some days back and I said, you know what?
33:55
We're we got we're not even going to be on the ice for a
33:57
couple days. I'm going to go for 5th birthday
34:00
in Spain. And so I traveled from Stockholm
34:03
to to Spain, southern Spain, spent about 36 hours, my
34:09
granddaughter's 5th birthday. And then on the way back, it
34:14
sort of clicked into me a little bit that that was, it was her
34:18
5th birthday is the only second time that I've even been around
34:22
for her, her birthdays. And that sort of started setting
34:27
in even more with me and then all the other stuff that that
34:31
comes along with that. So that's when I really, really
34:35
started thinking about it. And then when I met with Bill
34:38
Haslam on, on, you know, as I do on a pretty regular basis, I
34:42
early December, I said, you know, Bill, I, I've really been
34:45
thinking about this hard. I haven't even told my family
34:47
yet, but I'm going to tell you because I'm going to probably
34:52
just go to the end of my my contract and and then I'm going
34:55
to retire. And we talked about it.
34:58
You know, when do you do it in this, in this, in this business?
35:03
A lot of thing is June 30th. And I said, you know, usually
35:05
they, they look at it in the spring, but I said what I'm
35:08
finding out. And you, you see it all the
35:09
time. Social media, you guys are so
35:11
good at finding all the rumors. No one can keep their mouth shut
35:14
anymore. It's maybe maybe let's do
35:15
something a little untraditional and just say, you know, this is
35:18
what we we're going to do. And this is I'm giving myself an
35:20
end date. And so we did that and caught a
35:25
lot of people off guard. I didn't really tell my own
35:29
family till about 48 hours before.
35:32
So that's a long answer from Barry Trotz about his decision
35:35
making, deciding to retire as Preds GM and Brooks we we have
35:40
not heard that from Barry Trotz before coming back from Sweden.
35:44
First of all, it is so cool that his grandkids go to World
35:47
school. I want to go to world school.
35:49
But that he got to see one of his grandkids for a 5th birthday
35:55
get together in Spain. And on the flight home he just
35:59
thought, I've been there for two out of five birthdays for a
36:02
grandbaby And I don't want it to be two out of 6.
36:05
I want it to be 3 out of six and four out of seven and five out
36:08
of 8 and so on. And that's when it really hit
36:10
home. So more of the back story for
36:13
the emotion that Barry Trotch showed as he decided to retire
36:16
from hockey. Yeah, no, that was really eye
36:18
opening. And I you, you appreciate
36:21
somebody like Barry opening up like that.
36:23
And you know, he, he doesn't have to reveal any of that,
36:26
obviously, but I love that he was willing to give a little bit
36:30
more of a back story in there. And just as you said, Max, the
36:33
way that he was feeling when it hit him, I mean, we, I was in
36:36
Stockholm, I had no idea that he was even gone.
36:38
I love that he I was kind of a revelation to be like, wow, he
36:41
went to Spain and Sweden all within a 3648 hour stretch
36:46
there. But yeah, that's again just to
36:49
to get him to open up like that and get a little bit more
36:51
insight into that situation. And like you talked about last
36:54
season 2, not great on the health spectrum.
36:57
I guess it was there was a lot of speculation that maybe he was
37:00
retiring because of health. He said this time around that
37:02
he's feeling great, no health issues whatsoever.
37:05
But you never know what that sort of thing too.
37:08
So, yeah, great to hear from Trotzi there.
37:10
And we saw him back at practice on Thursday as well.
37:13
So he's back in the building. He spent the break in Washington
37:15
with some more grandchildren. So it's good that, you know, we
37:19
heard Andrew Brunette a few weeks ago, call him Papa Berry
37:22
and Papa Berry. Papa Berry has certainly been
37:24
making the rounds lately, so great to see.
37:27
Yeah, and I appreciate the honesty from Berry Trotz as
37:30
well. You can hear that full show on
37:33
the Preds Radio podcast page from 102.5 The Game separate
37:37
podcast page from where we are to hear that whole hour with
37:40
Barry Trotz talking about Preds past and present as he goes
37:43
through what we expect to be his final season as the Preds GM
37:47
before he retires when a successor is named, potentially
37:50
as soon as the draft this summer.
37:53
Brooks, it has been a long Olympic break.
37:55
We're 2/3 of the way done with it and we have had many Preds
37:59
birthdays that we have to shout out.
38:01
So it's birthday time. First off, happy birthday to our
38:05
missing Co host Kara Hammer who partied too hard and had to miss
38:10
this episode because she had such a great birthday but we
38:12
love her so much. I know, shout out to Hammer, who
38:17
told us that she doesn't have a voice and it's kind of hard to
38:19
do a podcast if you don't have a voice.
38:21
She's not well, sure, she's not feeling well.
38:25
She's under the weather. But our our best to Hammer and a
38:28
belated happy birthday there again imagining she she partied
38:32
hearty and enjoyed herself. So happy birthday to Kara.
38:35
But a lot of birthdays in the press room too.
38:37
Yeah, Kara's age is redacted, by the way.
38:41
We're not allowed to say what it is, but it was a big milestone.
38:44
We're going to say 30. All right, here's some creds
38:47
player birthdays for you as well.
38:49
Friday, February 6th. Happy 21st birthday, Matt Wood.
38:55
Saturday, February 7th twin birthdays.
38:58
Two of the most popular players in the NHL who were both happy
39:01
to call hours. Happy 35th birthday to Mr. Uncle
39:04
Factor Ryan O'Reilly and happy 36th birthday to the oldest
39:11
player on the Nashville Predators, Stephen Stamkos, who
39:14
after practice the first practice back from the Olympic
39:16
break, said first practice as a 36 year old hit hard and not in
39:21
a good way. So happy birthday to old Man
39:24
Stammer, one of the top 20 leading goal scorers in NHL
39:27
history. Then perhaps the biggest
39:30
birthday of them all, Nashville's most beautiful
39:32
person Luke Evangelista turns 24 on Saturday, February 21st.
39:39
Pretty boy Vincenzo is growing into a pretty man right before
39:42
our eyes. To be 24 again, I can't even
39:45
imagine. And then I have so much closer
39:47
to Steven Stamkos is 36. I can only imagine.
39:51
I don't know, I'm at the age where I get out of bed and
39:53
something hurts, something new is wrong every single day.
39:56
I can only imagine being a professional athlete.
39:59
But that's why we have people like Doctor Leclerc and Kevin
40:01
Morley around to keep them in tip top shape.
40:04
Even if you are 36 years old, 36 years young for Steven Stamkos,
40:08
the way he's playing right now. We do also want to recognize one
40:12
of the most important days on the Preds calendar.
40:15
It is recognized on the wall at Tin Roof on Demumbrian St.
40:18
February 15th is Scotty Upshaw Day.
40:21
So happy Scotty Upshaw Day to everybody out there.
40:23
One of the most important days on the Preds calendar.
40:26
It's on the wall at Tin Roof, you know that it's worth making
40:29
a note of. Absolutely.
40:31
All right, we're going to take a break, come back, give out our
40:33
biggie, awesome person of the week.
40:35
We'll see if it's any of their birthdays as well.
40:37
And Brooks has some Preds Olympic trivia coming up next on
40:41
the Predators official podcast. 4th and final segment of this
40:52
episode of the Predators Official Podcast back here on
40:55
ESPN1O25, The Game and Preds YouTube.
40:58
Brooks Bratton and Max Hurst here with you.
41:00
And as we wrap up our birthday segment, we wanted to get into
41:05
another awesome segment as we crown our biggie, awesome person
41:09
or Persons of the week and Max appropriately again, we're still
41:13
on a high from a gold medal for the US women and I think it's an
41:17
obvious choice. Yeah, the the Big E awesome
41:20
people of the week. I wish Aaron Donic were here to
41:23
be freaking out at all the hockey going on right now.
41:25
She would be going nuts for the US women's hockey team that just
41:29
won the gold in the Olympics on Thursday.
41:31
So the Big E is going to be split.
41:34
How many players are there? 2424 ways?
41:38
I believe so. That was awesome, an amazing
41:42
display, a great sort of women's sports and women's hockey and
41:46
great for USA Hockey. Incredibly well done and so much
41:50
fun to watch. I mean, they took care of
41:52
everybody along the way, including Canada.
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The first time. Marie Philippe Poulin didn't
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play in that first game, so you knew that wasn't the real full
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Canada gold medal game effort and Canada almost got him.
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But Hillary Knight tied it up with two minutes left.
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Megan Keller won it with a dirty goal in overtime and the US
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women win gold. So the USA men as we record this
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are two wins away from trying to do the same.
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We will see if they can get it done and get the Big E next week
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and maybe also a big medal, but most importantly the Big E in
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memory of Arandonic. Absolutely Congrats to the US
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women for being just awesome, especially this time around.
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Speaking of the Olympics wanted to end on this and we love
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trivia and our friend Yanni Kekolainen, Predators finished
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scout sent me a direct message on Instagram.
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He replied to one of my stories, ironically sharing, I've been
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sharing all of the Team USA victory stories from USA Hockey
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on my page. And he replied to one of those
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and just simply said, there are three coaches at the Olympics
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who had played for the Preds or drafted by the Preds.
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Can you name them? Would make a good quiz for your
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broadcast or social media. And I said, Yanni, I will
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absolutely talk about this on the podcast.
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So again, 3 gentlemen who have played for or been drafted by
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the Preds, can you name all three of them?
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Max, if you get the third one I will be floored.
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Well, I was worried you didn't tell me the trivia question in
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advance, which is good. That's how I like it.
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I was worried there are going to be more than three because I
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know 3 so I know them all. Really.
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OK. I do.
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Or do you know one that Yanni doesn't?
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Know. Because I know this third one is
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really obscure here. I think I do know it.
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OK, go. For it, we're going to go in
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order from least obscure to most obscure.
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The head coach of Team Slovakia, Vladimir Orszag, former Pred,
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that's one. Former Preds Olympic player,
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Assistant coach for Team Germany.
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Former Preds defenceman Alexander Sultzer who was in the
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Olympics in 2010 in Vancouver when he was on the Preds.
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And the last one, I only know because a fan pointed this out
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to me when I tweeted the Slovak roster sheet that had Vladimir
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Orszag on it because I hadn't realized he was the head coach.
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And you can tell me if this is wrong or if this is a mystery.
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4th, The goaltending coach for Team Slovakia, Jan Laysak.
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Very brief. Former Pred.
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Is that not one of the three? That's not who I have, so there
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is a mystery. 4th But he's so he's the goaltending coach.
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He's the goaltending coach for Team Slovakia, and he played six
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games for the Preds in the early 2000s.
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Played much more for the Admirals.
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OK, so there's another tie in and so This is why this one is
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what? Country.
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What country is the 4th? 1:00 I might be able to get it.
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Latvia, but again, either played for or drafted.
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He never played, he was simply drafted.
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Then I probably don't know. Yeah, that's why I was going to
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be floored if you got this. So the the 3rd or the 4th
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mystery person participant, if you will, is Laura Starzen.
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She was drafted in the ninth round, Yanni Kekalainen says in
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2003. And I've got him pulled up here.
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He was indeed drafted by the Predators way back in 2003,
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268th overall in a round that doesn't even exist anymore.
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He is a coach with the Latvian national team.
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He was a forward back in the day.
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So there you go. Thanks for throwing Yann
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Lysack's name in there, because that was not one that Yanni
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Kekalainen. Mentioned Yanni.
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Yanni, we got 4. He's selling a lot for it.
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I'll have to call him out, maybe I'll just shoot him a message or
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I'll wait till I see him in person here at the end of the
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season. But Yanni Kekkalainen again, our
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finished scout for the Predators has been here a heck of a long
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time. And honestly one of the reasons
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why there's a Pekkarine statue out in front of Bridgestone
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Arena. So shout out to Yanni
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Kekkalainen, appreciate the DM, appreciate him providing us with
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some trivia. That was a fun way to end it.
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Well him and I both got 3, so I think that's a tie.
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I think so too, and good for you for throwing in an extra
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participant there. I honorary mention for the Big E
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Awesome. Yeah, shout out to the fan who
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replied that to me. It was one of our regulars, but
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I don't have Twitter open in front of me right now to see who
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it was. But there we go.
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Well, there, there may be a fifth out there that we're
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missing too, so. If you if you know of any
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others, please send us a message.
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Get a hold of us somehow. Well, enjoy the rest of the
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Olympics, Preds fans. The gold medal game is Sunday
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morning and we will be back with Preds hockey on Thursday night,
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February 26th home game at Bridgestone Arena against the
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Chicago Blackhawks. And it is our second Hockey
46:33
Fights Cancer night of the season with a focus on our
46:35
pediatric cancer fighters from Monroe Carroll Junior Children's
46:39
Hospital at Vanderbilt. We'll have a podcast back for
46:41
you next week as well, recapping the Olympics and getting you
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back into Preds hockey. It'll be a busy week.
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It is five games in the 1st 8 days back for the Preds,
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including three home games in Smashville.
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So we will see you there for Brooks Bratton, our producer
46:57
Nate Baker and the whole crew here at The POP.
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My name is Max Herz Thanks for listening to Preds Hockey and
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