Latest / The You Project / #1707 12,688 Emails - Patrick Bonello
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- 0:01Speaker 1: I'm not even going to intro the show to I'm
- 0:02Speaker 1: just going to say good morning, Patrick.
- 0:06Speaker 2: You can't do that. No one will know that the
- 0:08Speaker 2: show started.
- 0:09Speaker 1: They'll think I'm breaking with protocol. They know, they know
- 0:12Speaker 1: where they are, they know what they're listening to. They
- 0:14Speaker 1: don't need mena Telement's to the fucking new project again.
- 0:17Speaker 1: They know.
- 0:18Speaker 3: Oh I thought it's Saturday.
- 0:21Speaker 1: Yeah, you look like you're on the moon. You look
- 0:25Speaker 1: like you're in at the International Space Station, which is
- 0:27Speaker 1: I guess the look you're going for. And over your
- 0:30Speaker 1: well both I was going to say, left mainly left shoulder.
- 0:33Speaker 1: I can see is that Earth below?
- 0:35Speaker 3: I can see, well a random planet below. Yeah, it's
- 0:38Speaker 3: just a backdrop that I've got for my little podcasting area.
- 0:41Speaker 2: Do you like it?
- 0:42Speaker 1: Well? I like it? Well, so that's not a screen thing,
- 0:46Speaker 1: that's what is that.
- 0:47Speaker 3: It's an actual printed piece of material that shows a
- 0:51Speaker 3: view from a space real Yeah, yeah, it's real.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Seed.
- 0:55Speaker 2: Look Oh wow at it?
- 0:57Speaker 1: Like wow, that that is actually can you can you
- 1:00Speaker 1: just take a little thing of this and make a
- 1:02Speaker 1: real so people can see Patrick's because you thought it
- 1:05Speaker 1: was like a virtual background, like like yours, looks like
- 1:09Speaker 1: an actual background that doesn't have any of the U
- 1:12Speaker 1: Project identifying it, of course, despite the fact that you're
- 1:17Speaker 1: being paid right now to represent the U Project.
- 1:21Speaker 3: That's all right. If I put a U Project sign
- 1:24Speaker 3: on the back of my Space station.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Yeah you can. Yeah, I tell you what you see
- 1:30Speaker 1: if you could get those global numbers, I tell you
- 1:33Speaker 1: what Mars. The numbers have been really down on Mars
- 1:36Speaker 1: and Jupiter and especially your Onus. You knew it was coming. Yeah.
- 1:44Speaker 1: Good morning, Tiff, good morning.
- 1:46Speaker 4: How are you?
- 1:47Speaker 1: I'm good? Like Patrick Sport is Patrick Sport Fritz Fritz's
- 1:51Speaker 1: Patrick Schnauzer, which is not a euphemism but something else
- 1:54Speaker 1: actually a dog Patrick's fort is Schnauzer. What do you
- 2:01Speaker 1: have your pets in the studio?
- 2:03Speaker 4: Bear is off to the side in her little cat castle,
- 2:07Speaker 4: so you might see a tail whip past my face
- 2:10Speaker 4: at some point.
- 2:12Speaker 1: And what's learner is she just reclining in the dog
- 2:15Speaker 1: bean bag.
- 2:17Speaker 4: There's a fair chance that whilst she realizes I am busy,
- 2:21Speaker 4: she is sneaking under the covers in my bed, which
- 2:25Speaker 4: is a yet to be resolved issue that is ongoing.
- 2:29Speaker 1: What is the what do I don't know if psychology
- 2:32Speaker 1: is the right word with dogs. But you two a
- 2:34Speaker 1: dog owners. Dogs seem to dig. Do you think it's
- 2:37Speaker 1: being in between something under or behind something makes them
- 2:41Speaker 1: feel secure?
- 2:42Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah. Lots of whipbits have there, like these cocoon beds.
- 2:46Speaker 4: They're like a little there'll a big round cushion and
- 2:49Speaker 4: then they have a little cover that goes over it and
- 2:51Speaker 4: it's so cute.
- 2:52Speaker 1: Whatever you do, don't bring a kangaroo home, a female kangaroo,
- 2:57Speaker 1: because you know where Luna will be.
- 3:01Speaker 4: She would look like a little Whippets look like little kangaroos.
- 3:04Speaker 4: Lots of people call them rue.
- 3:06Speaker 1: Yeah, they do. They look like a little Joey's Patrick.
- 3:09Speaker 1: How's your week been?
- 3:11Speaker 3: How's my week been? I got to fly my drone,
- 3:13Speaker 3: which is always fun. One of my clients was doing
- 3:15Speaker 3: a landscaping project, really steep hill and they're putting a
- 3:19Speaker 3: winding road up and they're putting gravel down, and I
- 3:22Speaker 3: just got to fly my drone following the whole construction process.
- 3:26Speaker 2: It's just it's great. I love doing that sort of stuff.
- 3:28Speaker 2: I was out there.
- 3:29Speaker 1: Was that just for curiosity or are you filming something
- 3:33Speaker 1: or doing something the client?
- 3:34Speaker 3: Now the client does grounds maintenance and all that sort
- 3:37Speaker 3: of stuff as best to removal. Last week I was
- 3:40Speaker 3: actually hits sexy Land, the old sexy Land in Geelong.
- 3:43Speaker 3: It was a bit of a running joke in the
- 3:45Speaker 3: office that we were going out to sexy Land to
- 3:47Speaker 3: do some filming, and all it was was just a
- 3:50Speaker 3: giant roof that was being taken apart and I got
- 3:53Speaker 3: to fly my drone. But the funniest thing, and the
- 3:55Speaker 3: childish thing, was that there is giant chimney stack that's
- 3:59Speaker 3: very well known in July Long and I did the
- 4:01Speaker 3: opening shot. I just had the drone panning up this
- 4:04Speaker 3: giant chimney stack to reveal the sexy Land roof.
- 4:07Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, I thought it was I.
- 4:10Speaker 1: Know where you're going, but I'm not going to open
- 4:12Speaker 1: the door and jump in because I'm going to try
- 4:13Speaker 1: and spend the first four minutes without doing any kind
- 4:16Speaker 1: of innuendo. Thanks to you too.
- 4:19Speaker 2: Sorry.
- 4:19Speaker 5: Did you just say urinus, that's that's that's planetary, that's yeah,
- 4:29Speaker 5: good morning, tiff.
- 4:31Speaker 1: I said that while you're swigging from your drink, going
- 4:35Speaker 1: to be hydrated.
- 4:36Speaker 4: Ha, it's got to stay hydrated.
- 4:38Speaker 1: It's nine oh five, it's Friday, the fifteenth of the eleventh,
- 4:41Speaker 1: What have you done? Have you been? Have you done
- 4:43Speaker 1: a workout? Have you has been productive?
- 4:47Speaker 4: Luna for a big stroll this morning, a busy little day,
- 4:50Speaker 4: so Luna first up. We went and trotted around the
- 4:53Speaker 4: beautiful streets of Elwood.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Is she a social dog? Is does she like other dogs?
- 4:59Speaker 4: Or is she a She is sometimes social and sometimes
- 5:03Speaker 4: a psychopath. She can be just randomly sporadically reactive, so
- 5:08Speaker 4: we can it can be a real party taking her
- 5:12Speaker 4: for a walk.
- 5:12Speaker 1: Sometimes what do you mean reactive like bark at someone? Yeah?
- 5:17Speaker 4: Yeah, on leash she can stack on quite a turn.
- 5:23Speaker 4: Just a bit of emotional regulation runs in the family.
- 5:26Speaker 4: We don't know what's going on, but sometimes we just
- 5:28Speaker 4: start kind of twitching.
- 5:30Speaker 1: And do you think your emotional state in a given
- 5:37Speaker 1: moment affects her emotional state?
- 5:41Speaker 4: Absolutely? Yeah, I think it does. But also she reads
- 5:46Speaker 4: the energy of other dogs because it's not a specific breed.
- 5:50Speaker 1: It's really odd.
- 5:52Speaker 4: And then there's a few houses that once she's had
- 5:56Speaker 4: a bit of a run in with a dog behind
- 5:58Speaker 4: a fence, approach mat fence, if she sensors the dog there,
- 6:02Speaker 4: even before she sees a dog, she can start like
- 6:05Speaker 4: just kind of twitching, Like if you you know what
- 6:08Speaker 4: highly strung race horses look like when you watch them
- 6:10Speaker 4: walk around the yard, she can get.
- 6:12Speaker 1: A bit of that going on. Wow, I watched this.
- 6:16Speaker 1: I wonder if I don't know the answer to this question.
- 6:18Speaker 1: I'm thinking out loud, but I wonder if it's they
- 6:21Speaker 1: can kind of if it's emotional, or if they smell,
- 6:25Speaker 1: because when dogs are in certain states, they're producing different
- 6:30Speaker 1: chemicals which would have different smells, right, Like, I think
- 6:34Speaker 1: they can whatever's associated with adrenaline or cortisol or all
- 6:39Speaker 1: the hormones associated with anger in dogs. Maybe they're producing
- 6:44Speaker 1: some kind of scent that she can pick up on
- 6:48Speaker 1: that you can't, like, I don't know, maybe there's like
- 6:51Speaker 1: a threat smell or a danger smell or a I
- 6:54Speaker 1: don't know.
- 6:55Speaker 4: M that's a good point, and it's all it's to
- 6:58Speaker 4: do with being on leash as well on leash or
- 7:01Speaker 4: behind a fence, and you can take those things away
- 7:04Speaker 4: and she generally doesn't behave the same.
- 7:07Speaker 1: I watched a video the other day of a lady
- 7:10Speaker 1: talking who's got a Golden Retriever and she was anyway
- 7:17Speaker 1: that her dog that she loves, the dog loves her
- 7:20Speaker 1: they're like like you two and your dogs like in love.
- 7:24Speaker 1: And her dog started acting a bit weird, and when
- 7:28Speaker 1: she would lie down the dog, she could see the
- 7:30Speaker 1: dog was uneasy and concerned, but nothing had happened, so
- 7:34Speaker 1: she couldn't figure it out. And whenever she would lie down,
- 7:37Speaker 1: the dog would come up and poke its nose in
- 7:40Speaker 1: her stomach slash chest region, you know what I'm going
- 7:43Speaker 1: to say. And this was just consistent. And anyway, she
- 7:47Speaker 1: had no symptoms, so no reason to go for a
- 7:49Speaker 1: check up. And anyway, she took the dog to the vet,
- 7:53Speaker 1: and the vets like, the dog's fine, there's nothing. I
- 7:57Speaker 1: don't know, like there's nothing wrong with her or him.
- 8:01Speaker 1: I think with her anyway, a week later or something anyway,
- 8:04Speaker 1: you know what I'm going to say. So she went
- 8:05Speaker 1: to the doctor and she had either stomach cancer or
- 8:09Speaker 1: lung cancer or something, but it was early enough that
- 8:12Speaker 1: it was treatable. And if not, she thinks, and probably
- 8:16Speaker 1: if not for the dog's early early warning system, like
- 8:20Speaker 1: the canine early warning system going hey mom, there's something
- 8:24Speaker 1: going on in here that doesn't smell right. There's fucking
- 8:27Speaker 1: something bad, because I guess, I mean, I don't fucking
- 8:31Speaker 1: know everyone, I'm making this shut up, but I would
- 8:33Speaker 1: imagine that it must be a in inverted Comma's bad
- 8:38Speaker 1: smell for the dog or something that's unfamiliar. So fucking hell.
- 8:43Speaker 1: So you two, you know, if Patrick rich starts poking
- 8:46Speaker 1: you in the cock, you better go the doctor. Oh god,
- 8:50Speaker 1: well you better or stomach or left elbow, doesn't matter,
- 8:54Speaker 1: whatever body part. But if all of a sudden, I.
- 8:58Speaker 3: Was going to ask you how your week's been, because
- 9:00Speaker 3: you ask us all the time, and I don't know
- 9:02Speaker 3: that we ask you that often.
- 9:03Speaker 1: But love, Yeah, I don't want to bore everyone or
- 9:09Speaker 1: upset everyone, but I've had a hard week with a
- 9:12Speaker 1: friend of mine, family friend, very very close is doing it.
- 9:18Speaker 1: Doing it hard would be an understatement. But so that's
- 9:21Speaker 1: been going on, and I've been so I grew up.
- 9:25Speaker 1: The quick version is, I've got four pseudo sisters that
- 9:29Speaker 1: I grew up next to, kind of in parallel up
- 9:31Speaker 1: in the country. I'm like their brother that I have
- 9:33Speaker 1: a brother. They're like my sisters. I don't have siblings.
- 9:37Speaker 1: Their mum and dad was like my other mum and dad,
- 9:39Speaker 1: and vice versa. And you know, it's it's fair to
- 9:43Speaker 1: say that. Yeah, their mum is just she's in the
- 9:46Speaker 1: hospital at the moment and not in a great way.
- 9:48Speaker 1: And so it's been an interesting time, you know, And
- 9:52Speaker 1: it's been it's interesting without being morbid or anything. But
- 9:56Speaker 1: you know, we talk about and I know this show
- 9:58Speaker 1: is not about this, but fuck it, we're humans like
- 10:01Speaker 1: you talk about gratitude and awareness and you and I
- 10:04Speaker 1: Tip have spoken about this a bit lately, context and
- 10:07Speaker 1: perspective and what actually matters. And I know we all
- 10:12Speaker 1: know this, but when someone that you love gets sick,
- 10:16Speaker 1: it's amazing how quickly for me anyway, things come screamingly
- 10:21Speaker 1: into perspective. And you know, which is why I still
- 10:24Speaker 1: like to get on the show and have fun and
- 10:25Speaker 1: be silly, because we need the pendulum to swing a bit.
- 10:28Speaker 1: But yeah, this week has been tough mentally and emotionally,
- 10:34Speaker 1: and it was always also one of my best mates
- 10:38Speaker 1: died a few years ago, and it was his birthday yesterday,
- 10:41Speaker 1: so November four, and Dicko shout out to Dicko and
- 10:44Speaker 1: Dicka's family, and so yeah, it was just one of those.
- 10:48Speaker 1: It's been an interesting week. But nonetheless, mate, we push on,
- 10:52Speaker 1: We push on.
- 10:54Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are struggling at the moment.
- 10:58Speaker 3: I was talking to a lovely client of mine who
- 11:00Speaker 3: is a florist here in town, and you know, I
- 11:04Speaker 3: get a sense that people with there's a lot of uncertainty.
- 11:07Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not suggesting that the recent American election
- 11:11Speaker 3: kind of influenced people much, but a lot of people
- 11:12Speaker 3: were talking about it, this speculation as to what's going
- 11:15Speaker 3: to happen on a world scale, but even on a
- 11:18Speaker 3: domestic scale. You know, you go and you fill up
- 11:20Speaker 3: at the petrol station, or you buy your groceries and
- 11:22Speaker 3: everything that seems that to be that little bit more expensive,
- 11:26Speaker 3: and I think people are finding a little bit harder.
- 11:28Speaker 3: And we're going into Christmas and that can be a
- 11:31Speaker 3: positive time, but it can be a stressful time for
- 11:33Speaker 3: people as well.
- 11:33Speaker 2: We forget that sometimes, so I.
- 11:35Speaker 3: Think, just yeah, big cyber hug to everyone at the moment,
- 11:38Speaker 3: I think just more often and really look past the
- 11:42Speaker 3: facade and say, what's driving that?
- 11:44Speaker 2: The person yelling at you because you.
- 11:46Speaker 3: Know you got cut off when you're driving, you know,
- 11:49Speaker 3: road rage. Why do people get so riled up so easily,
- 11:54Speaker 3: and what's happening in the background in their lives? You know,
- 11:56Speaker 3: we often think of isolated incidents, as you know, we've
- 12:00Speaker 3: been hard done by, But what motivates that, what led
- 12:04Speaker 3: up to it? What was that straw that broke the
- 12:07Speaker 3: Campbell's back? And I don't know, we look further than
- 12:11Speaker 3: beyond the surface sometimes.
- 12:13Speaker 1: Well, I think we've probably spoken about we haven't spoken
- 12:16Speaker 1: about this on this particular, you know, the Patrick, Tiff
- 12:19Speaker 1: and Craig Show, but we've spoken a lot outside of
- 12:23Speaker 1: this context about I mean, the way that we are
- 12:28Speaker 1: always you know, Patrick only sees the Patrick world, TIFFs
- 12:31Speaker 1: sees it. You know, it's because we're always looking through
- 12:33Speaker 1: our lens, our window, our beliefs, and that shapes our reality.
- 12:39Speaker 1: And it's the same. And even me, who kind of
- 12:42Speaker 1: has a pretty good grasp of self awareness and subjective
- 12:46Speaker 1: objective all that shit reality, I still look through the
- 12:49Speaker 1: Craig window, and I still have bias, and I still
- 12:53Speaker 1: I'm still selfish, and I still want things to be
- 12:55Speaker 1: the way I want them to be. And you know,
- 12:59Speaker 1: and that's the that's the ever present I guess reality
- 13:05Speaker 1: is that even though and I've said this too many times,
- 13:08Speaker 1: but there's three of us in this conversation, but we're
- 13:10Speaker 1: all having a different experience, because our experience is created
- 13:14Speaker 1: by us individually. And then so when you see someone
- 13:18Speaker 1: who's losing their shits, and for you it's not something
- 13:21Speaker 1: that you would lose your shit over, it's very easy
- 13:25Speaker 1: to be judgmental. But you know, I think you told
- 13:29Speaker 1: this story a long time ago, mate, about a guy
- 13:31Speaker 1: who got on a train, do you remember, and a
- 13:36Speaker 1: kid was some kid was losing his shits and the
- 13:40Speaker 1: dad was there, not really on the train, not really
- 13:43Speaker 1: paying attention and not controlling his kid. And then some
- 13:47Speaker 1: other guy kind of reprimanded the father for not controlling
- 13:51Speaker 1: his child. And he'd just left the hospital because his
- 13:55Speaker 1: wife had died, and he.
- 13:57Speaker 2: Was do you remember that?
- 13:58Speaker 1: No?
- 13:59Speaker 2: I don't. Actually that's right, right, maybe.
- 14:01Speaker 1: It will obviously, wasn't you. But it's like this, literally,
- 14:04Speaker 1: this dude was on he just left the hospital, his
- 14:06Speaker 1: wife had died of cant who was sitting on a train.
- 14:09Speaker 1: He was just fucking lost, and his kid was running
- 14:11Speaker 1: a muck a bit, and this other passenger is like
- 14:13Speaker 1: reprimanding him for all this stuff, and he was just
- 14:17Speaker 1: clearly you know, So you don't, and I know that's melodramatically,
- 14:21Speaker 1: you don't know, you know, And you. Yeah, it's I
- 14:25Speaker 1: think as I think, as we get maybe a bit older,
- 14:30Speaker 1: who knows, hopefully we get wiser. I don't know that
- 14:32Speaker 1: that's always the case, but I think just having I think,
- 14:37Speaker 1: trying to understand others but not necessarily agree with them.
- 14:41Speaker 1: And we've spoken about this, like understanding even people that
- 14:45Speaker 1: you don't agree with. Understanding them doesn't mean that you
- 14:49Speaker 1: can done what they do or you support what they do,
- 14:52Speaker 1: but we need to at least, you know, Like I
- 14:56Speaker 1: think it was Edmund Burke said, all it's necessary for
- 14:59Speaker 1: evil to triumph is for good, he said men, but
- 15:02Speaker 1: I think him and people will use people. All that's
- 15:04Speaker 1: necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to
- 15:07Speaker 1: do nothing right. But you can't. You can't overcome what
- 15:12Speaker 1: you don't understand. So even with shit that's dark and
- 15:15Speaker 1: evil and sinister, we need to try to understand that
- 15:18Speaker 1: so we can combat that, you know, And I think
- 15:21Speaker 1: that's evident now with everything across the world, from war
- 15:24Speaker 1: to famine, to domestic violence to politics, to all the
- 15:29Speaker 1: horrible shit that really does happen. It's all well and
- 15:33Speaker 1: good to go, it shouldn't happen, but we need to
- 15:36Speaker 1: understand why it keeps fucking happening, so we can figure
- 15:39Speaker 1: out a solution.
- 15:41Speaker 3: But even at a micro level, it was interesting. One
- 15:43Speaker 3: of the stories that I was going to chat about
- 15:45Speaker 3: today was that a lot of you are probably aware
- 15:49Speaker 3: that Tesla has all these cameras around their cars, and
- 15:52Speaker 3: it's called a sentinel system, so it tracks the vehicle
- 15:56Speaker 3: and what's happening and senses what's going on around the vehicle.
- 16:00Speaker 3: And there's a Facebook group of Tesla owners and they
- 16:04Speaker 3: show videos of people vandalizing their cars. And it's not
- 16:08Speaker 3: disgruntled teenagers. They're showing instances of boomers.
- 16:12Speaker 2: You know, a woman.
- 16:13Speaker 3: Walks past and just keys the car, an older man
- 16:16Speaker 3: keys the car, and you think that's behavior is something
- 16:20Speaker 3: that you would not expect from a grown person. And
- 16:24Speaker 3: what's prompted them to be so angry with an indiscriminate
- 16:28Speaker 3: person who they've never met. The only thing that has
- 16:32Speaker 3: identified them is that they're driving an electric car, a
- 16:36Speaker 3: Tesla in this case. Now, whether to other really expensive cars,
- 16:40Speaker 3: I mean, someone might have a Merk parked or a
- 16:41Speaker 3: Beama and they may be doing the same thing, but
- 16:44Speaker 3: they're not being captured on camera. But what does that
- 16:47Speaker 3: say about our society. I was talking to someone about
- 16:50Speaker 3: how if you had a convicted criminal who was a
- 16:54Speaker 3: multi multi millionaire almost billionaire, would you vote them into
- 16:58Speaker 3: power Because in Australia tall poppy syndrome not a bloody chance.
- 17:02Speaker 3: But when we look at rich people, we tend to
- 17:05Speaker 3: do the tall poppy thing, Whereas in the United States
- 17:07Speaker 3: when they see a rich person, they think, Wow, that
- 17:09Speaker 3: person's worked hard and they look up to that person.
- 17:12Speaker 3: They aspire to be that person. And I'm no way
- 17:15Speaker 3: a political pundit that I wouldn't even want to begin
- 17:18Speaker 3: to try to analyze, you know, what happened at the
- 17:21Speaker 3: last election. But the reality of it is our mindset's
- 17:24Speaker 3: very different in Australia and the way that we look
- 17:28Speaker 3: at people and that tall poppy thing seems to come
- 17:31Speaker 3: back a lot, doesn't it.
- 17:34Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it is. It is interesting like
- 17:38Speaker 1: I've presented in America quite a lot, and yeah, look
- 17:42Speaker 1: like the audiences in Australia are good. It varies though.
- 17:47Speaker 1: It's like in there was very famous baseball who was
- 17:53Speaker 1: one of the first Australians to do great in America
- 17:56Speaker 1: in the in the major in the Major League Baseball MLB.
- 18:02Speaker 1: His name is Dave Neilson. He was a pitcher, and
- 18:05Speaker 1: he said he wants to go where he's celebrated, not tolerated, right,
- 18:10Speaker 1: And he was talking about how in America this was
- 18:14Speaker 1: as best I remember this because this was my first
- 18:16Speaker 1: kind of exposure to this idea of tall poppy syndrome.
- 18:20Speaker 1: And he said, it's interesting because he's and there was
- 18:24Speaker 1: no ego in this, but he's like quite successful, famous, wealthy,
- 18:28Speaker 1: you know, back in the day, one of the best
- 18:30Speaker 1: baseballers on the planet, which was obviously an exceptional thing
- 18:34Speaker 1: for an Australian growing up in a country where baseball
- 18:37Speaker 1: is not a big sport and all that stuff. And
- 18:39Speaker 1: he said, but his overwhelming kind of energy that he
- 18:43Speaker 1: got was that Australians resented him, whereas in America they
- 18:48Speaker 1: just they were they thought it was fucking amazing, you know.
- 18:51Speaker 1: So I think there's a bit of that, but I
- 18:53Speaker 1: also think, you know, it's like I personally get a
- 18:58Speaker 1: lot of you know, I get bits of hate, of course,
- 19:03Speaker 1: but I'm in no way a big deal. But if
- 19:05Speaker 1: I run a public event and we get hundreds of
- 19:09Speaker 1: people along, obviously they're coming to hear me. So it's
- 19:12Speaker 1: a warm audience, but it's mostly positive. But I think
- 19:16Speaker 1: also just jumping back, this is interesting to there's a
- 19:20Speaker 1: little bit of technology involved here to the Tesla thing
- 19:23Speaker 1: where you go, oh, you wouldn't expect boomers to do
- 19:25Speaker 1: this or that. I don't know, I kind of would.
- 19:29Speaker 1: I think some boomers some a fucking resentful bit of
- 19:32Speaker 1: twisted old fucks. I do. I do. No, not obviously,
- 19:38Speaker 1: not all, but I think anyone like. I'll give you
- 19:42Speaker 1: two quick stories. Right, So, my mum and dad had
- 19:45Speaker 1: a restaurant years ago, and they I wanted I can't
- 19:48Speaker 1: give too much detail, but they employed a person that
- 19:50Speaker 1: they knew, not well. But this person was really struggling
- 19:56Speaker 1: part of a family. The family, you know, some shit
- 19:58Speaker 1: had happened. So they gave this person a job to
- 20:01Speaker 1: help them that really didn't have great skills, any experience
- 20:05Speaker 1: in hospitality. And the quick story is this person systematically
- 20:12Speaker 1: stole money from my mum and dad. Right now, Mom
- 20:16Speaker 1: and dad gave this person an opportunity so that they
- 20:19Speaker 1: could support or help support their family. And this was
- 20:22Speaker 1: not a nineteen year old. This was like a forty
- 20:25Speaker 1: five year old woman who was just happened to be
- 20:28Speaker 1: a woman could have been a man, but it was
- 20:30Speaker 1: or maybe a forty year old, but yeah, stealing from
- 20:33Speaker 1: my mum and dad. I had similar things happen in
- 20:36Speaker 1: my business. I went to I was in New Zealand
- 20:41Speaker 1: quite a few years ago and I was training at
- 20:44Speaker 1: a big gym in Queenstown and what a beautiful joint
- 20:50Speaker 1: that is. Anyway, I was talking to a guy who
- 20:52Speaker 1: owned it. I think it was a guy. It was
- 20:54Speaker 1: a guy, and we were just chatting about the industry
- 20:59Speaker 1: and stuff. Said, I'll tell you. We ended up talking
- 21:03Speaker 1: about how do you go? Because back then it was
- 21:05Speaker 1: a lot of cash, you know, and they had a
- 21:09Speaker 1: multitude of different things that needed to be paid for,
- 21:12Speaker 1: everything from gatorade to coffee, to swimming goggles to squash
- 21:17Speaker 1: rackets to memberships to you know. There was a lot
- 21:20Speaker 1: of cash. And this dude thought that one of his
- 21:24Speaker 1: staff was stealing one, right, So he got a friend
- 21:27Speaker 1: of his found a security company to come in like
- 21:31Speaker 1: at midnight on a Sunday night when the joint was closed,
- 21:34Speaker 1: and put all these cameras in reception looking down to
- 21:38Speaker 1: feel what was happening over and around the cash register.
- 21:41Speaker 1: And so the first day, which was a Monday, I
- 21:46Speaker 1: think there were seven people that were working at reception,
- 21:50Speaker 1: and all seven of them stole. Wow, all seven staff
- 21:56Speaker 1: members were pilfering either money or products or so they
- 22:02Speaker 1: would do a forty dollars sale and they'd ring up twenty,
- 22:05Speaker 1: so at the end of the day the till balanced,
- 22:08Speaker 1: but that'd sell to whatevers two pairs of goggles. They'd
- 22:12Speaker 1: ring up one pair of goggle and they'd put twenty
- 22:14Speaker 1: in the till and twenty in their pocket. And every
- 22:19Speaker 1: one of his staff members And this was not shifty,
- 22:23Speaker 1: dodgy people. This is just people who went it's a
- 22:26Speaker 1: cash business. I deserve this. Da da da da dha. So, yeah,
- 22:31Speaker 1: I think you'd be surprised. I would think that is
- 22:35Speaker 1: an atypical result. I would think generally seven out of
- 22:38Speaker 1: seven don't. But that is that was his story. And yeah,
- 22:44Speaker 1: and he used you know, surveillance and tech and cameras
- 22:47Speaker 1: to figure that out. But but I'm not surprised. Patrick,
- 22:51Speaker 1: all right, this is not about me today. I just
- 22:55Speaker 1: made it. I apologized, but I thought that was interesting.
- 22:58Speaker 2: No, it is.
- 22:58Speaker 3: It's really interesting. You know, It's about the human condition.
- 23:01Speaker 2: I suppose.
- 23:03Speaker 3: Look, one of the reasons I like tech is because
- 23:06Speaker 3: I just find it interesting. And you know, we were
- 23:09Speaker 3: talking just briefly about what was happening in the political format,
- 23:13Speaker 3: and you know, what was going on politics.
- 23:14Speaker 2: Around the world.
- 23:15Speaker 3: And one of the things I like about my news
- 23:18Speaker 3: feed is it's totally curated for me. So I get
- 23:21Speaker 3: vegan recipes, tech news, gadgets, and people say, oh my god,
- 23:27Speaker 3: I just see that happen. It's like, nah, nah, didn't
- 23:29Speaker 3: see that happen.
- 23:30Speaker 2: Nah?
- 23:30Speaker 3: But did you know that now you can power your
- 23:33Speaker 3: house with your electric car. It's like, really, actually you can,
- 23:38Speaker 3: by the way, I just thought i'd work that into
- 23:41Speaker 3: the store.
- 23:41Speaker 1: But how do you charge your car? Though?
- 23:44Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, look if you need it to now, Look,
- 23:47Speaker 3: this isn't It's interesting when you think about it. The
- 23:50Speaker 3: batteries inside electric cars are actually bigger than the batteries
- 23:56Speaker 3: used when people have power backups in their homes. So
- 23:58Speaker 3: if you've got a test wall, a power wall, it's
- 24:02Speaker 3: smaller than a battery inside a Tesla car. So it
- 24:06Speaker 3: makes perfect sense. And I didn't know this. I was
- 24:08Speaker 3: doing looking into this in an article I was reading,
- 24:11Speaker 3: and there's actually three different formats it's called. So there's
- 24:14Speaker 3: V two, G which is vehicle to the grid, V
- 24:17Speaker 3: two H, which is vehicle to the house, and then
- 24:22Speaker 3: V two L, which is vehicle to load.
- 24:25Speaker 2: And what it effectively means is that you can use
- 24:28Speaker 2: that car. I mean, I know I'm ignoring your question
- 24:31Speaker 2: silly now, but effectively it means that if there's a
- 24:35Speaker 2: power blackout, you could use your electric car to be
- 24:39Speaker 2: able to power your house, or if you go camping,
- 24:41Speaker 2: you can plug it into your car and be able
- 24:43Speaker 2: to run those items, or just actually use your car's
- 24:47Speaker 2: battery power to feed back into the grid and make
- 24:50Speaker 2: some money. So the reason that would work, I mean
- 24:54Speaker 2: for a lot of people who've got electric cars, or at
- 24:55Speaker 2: least the people that I know have got solar panels
- 24:59Speaker 2: as well, they're generating power and charging the car up.
- 25:02Speaker 2: But on a cloudy day, when you haven't got that
- 25:04Speaker 2: much power being charged, you could effectively be using your
- 25:07Speaker 2: car to feedback into the grid. So if you're not
- 25:09Speaker 2: going to be driving that day, you could use the
- 25:11Speaker 2: battery for something else, or if the power goes out.
- 25:13Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, well that makes total sense. And I
- 25:17Speaker 1: mean I think in certain situations that's going to be
- 25:20Speaker 1: a godsend, you know, But.
- 25:23Speaker 3: That feature isn't actually available so much in Australia. It's
- 25:27Speaker 3: only just recently that particularly, the vehicle to the grid
- 25:31Speaker 3: has only now been launched or is about to be
- 25:34Speaker 3: launched in Australia because it's way charging effectively. It's called
- 25:38Speaker 3: bidirectional charging, and a lot of the current cars don't
- 25:42Speaker 3: have that capacity, or at least the charging stations don't
- 25:44Speaker 3: have that capacity. So this is regulations have to be
- 25:48Speaker 3: put in place, and the Climate Change Ministry here in
- 25:51Speaker 3: Australia has just approved the idea of vehicle to the
- 25:56Speaker 3: grid and it means by Christmas people who have their
- 25:59Speaker 3: electric cars will be able to then use that to
- 26:01Speaker 3: be able to power back into the grid, which could
- 26:03Speaker 3: be quite useful.
- 26:05Speaker 1: Hey, yes, I agree, I'm just reading here. One of
- 26:09Speaker 1: your one of your dot points for our discussion today
- 26:11Speaker 1: is goodbye annoying touch screens, welcome back buttons. Thank god
- 26:16Speaker 1: if that happens, because I'm a fucking t rex, so
- 26:19Speaker 1: I'm on board. I'm all in right before you tell
- 26:23Speaker 1: us about that. You know how we have like the
- 26:27Speaker 1: iPhone fucking twenty eight which you can land the space
- 26:30Speaker 1: shuttle and you know, cure cancer with right, We've got that.
- 26:33Speaker 1: But then at the other end of the scale, we've
- 26:35Speaker 1: got really fundamental phones that we can use as essentially
- 26:40Speaker 1: a phone to make calls, get calls. And where did
- 26:43Speaker 1: he go to? Is he going?
- 26:47Speaker 4: You can still here, but he just gets up and leaves.
- 26:50Speaker 1: That's okay. So but you know how we've got super
- 26:54Speaker 1: capable phones and then super fundamental phones, right, and we've
- 26:57Speaker 1: also got you know, digital music recorded incredibly and we've
- 27:01Speaker 1: got LPs which we put on a record player. Right,
- 27:04Speaker 1: so we've got all ends of the scale. My question
- 27:08Speaker 1: to you is, do you think or my idea is
- 27:13Speaker 1: I reckon they should produce a car, and of course
- 27:16Speaker 1: there's got to be some tech, but a low tech
- 27:19Speaker 1: car where you don't need to be a fucking genius
- 27:22Speaker 1: to use it. You know, it's almost like the analog car.
- 27:27Speaker 1: You know, there's a wireless do you turn the button on.
- 27:30Speaker 3: For the air?
- 27:33Speaker 1: You know there's a radio, you turn the knob. Is
- 27:37Speaker 1: anyone like that's what my mom needs? I'm scared to
- 27:41Speaker 1: she's probably not going to have another car. But even
- 27:44Speaker 1: the last car I bought her, it's it's a Suzuki
- 27:47Speaker 1: Swift that's not exactly a fucking Tesla but it's almost
- 27:51Speaker 1: over In fact, it is over ahead eighty percent of
- 27:54Speaker 1: what that car can do, you know, because she can
- 27:57Speaker 1: make phone calls automatically just talking to the car, and
- 28:00Speaker 1: adaptive you know, cruise control and what do you think Patrick,
- 28:04Speaker 1: a low key, analogue basic car, but for like fifteen
- 28:10Speaker 1: grand look.
- 28:12Speaker 2: Yes and no. I'm going to answer yes and no.
- 28:14Speaker 3: The reason of the yes and no is because there's
- 28:16Speaker 3: so much more safety features built into new cars. Lane assist,
- 28:21Speaker 3: adaptive cruise control, all those sort of things are really
- 28:25Speaker 3: good because it makes it safer on the roads. However, yes,
- 28:28Speaker 3: bring back the knobs. And Hyundai, Porsche Volkswagen they are
- 28:33Speaker 3: thinking about doing just that. In fact, Hyundai Design North
- 28:38Speaker 3: America vice president, a guard by the name of Ha Haksu,
- 28:42Speaker 3: has basically said that they have talked to their customers
- 28:47Speaker 3: and the customers are saying, we need to go back
- 28:50Speaker 3: to knobs.
- 28:51Speaker 2: We need to go back to those.
- 28:53Speaker 1: Wow, you would have breed the sireh relief. Yeah, that's
- 29:04Speaker 1: good knobs, it is everyone. Yeah, so stand by.
- 29:08Speaker 2: Yeah, so the knobs.
- 29:12Speaker 1: Can't wait? Can't wait? Keep going?
- 29:17Speaker 4: Oh?
- 29:18Speaker 2: You want me to keep going? After you threw us
- 29:20Speaker 2: all under.
- 29:20Speaker 1: The I didn't throw anyone under the bus. I didn't
- 29:24Speaker 1: you like literally it's oh no, that's going to say
- 29:28Speaker 1: knobs are back. That was the bloody headline. So but
- 29:32Speaker 1: actually i'm reading it. It's buttons, buttons and knobs coming
- 29:36Speaker 1: back soon.
- 29:38Speaker 3: Here's here's an amazing story, and.
- 29:42Speaker 1: We'll be the judge.
- 29:45Speaker 2: Power over Skinned.
- 29:47Speaker 1: Don't oversell it. Don't oversell it. Next time. Go here's
- 29:50Speaker 1: a pretty fucking boring story. And if it's good, we'll
- 29:53Speaker 1: be impressed. But when you go this is amazing, you've
- 29:57Speaker 1: set our sights too high. So start again, Start again.
- 30:02Speaker 3: This group of nerds, these boffins at the researchers at
- 30:06Speaker 3: the Future Interfaces Group, have come up with wearable tech.
- 30:10Speaker 3: It's called power over Skin, right, and it doesn't take batteries.
- 30:16Speaker 2: It uses your.
- 30:17Speaker 3: Bodies r F frequency to power these devices.
- 30:23Speaker 1: I don't even know what RF frequency is. What is that?
- 30:26Speaker 2: Okay? What is that?
- 30:28Speaker 3: The body has natural RF energy. It's small basically because
- 30:32Speaker 3: our body releases electrical impulses when we move. Okay, that's
- 30:37Speaker 3: releasing RF energy. And they're saying they can harness the
- 30:40Speaker 3: power of RF energy, which would allow very very tiny
- 30:45Speaker 3: devices to be powered by contact with the skin, So
- 30:50Speaker 3: I've got it.
- 30:51Speaker 1: What about sorry? What about this for an idea? Because
- 30:54Speaker 1: you know, a calorie is a calories energy, right, yep,
- 30:57Speaker 1: Excess calories are stored in fat. Imagine if we could
- 31:01Speaker 1: run our home from our guts.
- 31:03Speaker 2: So Craig could powry his house by his fat.
- 31:07Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, excess fat. Imagine if you all your wearables
- 31:12Speaker 1: were running off, you're at a post tissue. Sorry mate,
- 31:16Speaker 1: keep going and apologies to the listeners. I know this
- 31:19Speaker 1: is bad, even as we're in the middle of it.
- 31:22Speaker 1: I recognize how bad it is, but it could get better,
- 31:25Speaker 1: so stick around.
- 31:25Speaker 2: Okay.
- 31:26Speaker 3: Yeah, These researchers at Carnegie Mellon University of talking about
- 31:31Speaker 3: using RF transmission, So maybe it might be a bluetooth
- 31:35Speaker 3: ring or a medical patch for tracking.
- 31:37Speaker 2: Health data sun exposure.
- 31:39Speaker 3: So if you could think of a little patch you'd
- 31:40Speaker 3: have on your hand when you've been out in the
- 31:42Speaker 3: sun for too long, it would tell you that you
- 31:44Speaker 3: know you're risking getting burned. I think it could be
- 31:48Speaker 3: pretty cool to do that. And the fact that we
- 31:50Speaker 3: then don't have disposable batteries, no more land waste all
- 31:53Speaker 3: that sort of stuff landfill waste, I just thought pretty cool.
- 31:56Speaker 1: Yeah, they could do that. That is all silliness aside.
- 32:00Speaker 1: That would be fucking amazing.
- 32:02Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's lots of phone I mean. The good
- 32:04Speaker 3: thing is that technology has got so much better. Remember
- 32:06Speaker 3: you know, remember when you used to have light bulbs
- 32:10Speaker 3: that heat it up, and the problem was they took
- 32:13Speaker 3: up so much energy, and then they were replaced with LEDs.
- 32:16Speaker 3: The LEDs don't cause heat. They tend to expel light
- 32:19Speaker 3: rather than lots of heat. And the problem with old
- 32:21Speaker 3: light bulbs is that you used so much energy to
- 32:26Speaker 3: power the filament. It caused heat and that's what used
- 32:29Speaker 3: up lots of the power, not so much of the
- 32:31Speaker 3: light that it was producing. So yeah, there's a lot
- 32:34Speaker 3: to be said about it. I don't know if it's
- 32:36Speaker 3: a seguay as such, But do you have an air tag?
- 32:39Speaker 3: If either of you guys ever used air tags.
- 32:41Speaker 1: I don't know what that is, so I'm going to
- 32:43Speaker 1: go with no.
- 32:44Speaker 3: Okay, So at air tag, you put it in your
- 32:46Speaker 3: luggage or you put it on your car keys, and
- 32:48Speaker 3: that way when you can't find your stuff, you can
- 32:50Speaker 3: use your phone to find it. Apple's got their air tag,
- 32:53Speaker 3: there's the equivalent on Android. They've got tiles, that sort
- 32:55Speaker 3: of stuff. But for the first time, Apple and Quantus
- 32:59Speaker 3: are going to part nor up and they're going to
- 33:01Speaker 3: use air tag bag tracking, which means you'll be able
- 33:05Speaker 3: to know where your bag is at all times, when
- 33:07Speaker 3: it's got off the plane and all that sort of stuff.
- 33:09Speaker 3: I mean, you can kind of do that now, but
- 33:11Speaker 3: by supporting it and teaming up, it means it's going
- 33:14Speaker 3: to be a much better tracking system, so lot a
- 33:16Speaker 3: lot less chance of things going missing, and if they do,
- 33:19Speaker 3: they can find them really rapidly.
- 33:21Speaker 2: I thought that was kind of cool.
- 33:22Speaker 1: Because I need that. I need that. Patrick, how much
- 33:25Speaker 1: do you know how much that is?
- 33:27Speaker 2: Take overall?
- 33:28Speaker 3: There's nothing an air tag maybe thirty bucks or less
- 33:31Speaker 3: twenty five?
- 33:32Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you can track it off.
- 33:36Speaker 1: I think I didn't know what they were called, but
- 33:37Speaker 1: I think I knew about them. But I so tif
- 33:41Speaker 1: no pressure. But Christmas is coming.
- 33:43Speaker 4: So well, we start wearing the headphones I last bought you,
- 33:46Speaker 4: or think about gifts or gifts, but you don't seem
- 33:49Speaker 4: to put them to good use, just saying.
- 33:51Speaker 1: Well, okay, sure that's valid. No, it's worth it to
- 33:56Speaker 1: Shay too. Shay, good point. Okay, forget that. But you
- 34:00Speaker 1: know what's interesting, Patrick Jones, is like this intersection of
- 34:05Speaker 1: biology and technology is just becoming more and more, isn't it.
- 34:10Speaker 1: You know, with like you're talking about our body powering
- 34:14Speaker 1: these things, you know, and you know, neural link and
- 34:19Speaker 1: all that kind of Yeah, it's becoming more and more
- 34:22Speaker 1: a symbiotic relationship between you know, biology and technology producing
- 34:28Speaker 1: something more evolved. Maybe I don't know it's more or
- 34:31Speaker 1: less evolved, but interesting.
- 34:33Speaker 3: But we were talking not long ago in one of
- 34:35Speaker 3: the shows about a company that was developing augmented reality technology.
- 34:40Speaker 3: But instead of wearing glasses so you can see an
- 34:43Speaker 3: overlay of tech in front of you, so it might
- 34:45Speaker 3: be giving you directions when you're walking down the street,
- 34:48Speaker 3: they're talking about putting contact lenses and having contact lenses. Now,
- 34:52Speaker 3: if you think about this new tech, if you could
- 34:54Speaker 3: use RF technology and your own body can power the
- 34:58Speaker 3: electronic devices that you're putting on your eye to be
- 35:01Speaker 3: able to have little tiny screens that allow you to
- 35:04Speaker 3: be it's not obtrusive. It means you don't have to
- 35:06Speaker 3: wear glasses and you could be walking down the street
- 35:08Speaker 3: and getting all this analytic information, you know, just hovering
- 35:12Speaker 3: in the air in front of you.
- 35:13Speaker 2: Your new car has heads up display, doesn't it.
- 35:16Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. That's exactly what I was thinking of
- 35:18Speaker 1: when you said that. I'm just imagine how much that
- 35:23Speaker 1: would fuck with your mind and brain at the start,
- 35:27Speaker 1: where you could pull up Google, you know, and you're
- 35:31Speaker 1: staring off into space and someone's like, what are you doing, bro,
- 35:35Speaker 1: I'm just looking up a word. Look what I'm just
- 35:39Speaker 1: checking the stock market.
- 35:41Speaker 3: It's really funny though, Craigo if you had Tinder on
- 35:44Speaker 3: there and you swipe left or right and then you
- 35:46Speaker 3: slapped someone in the face because you thought that it
- 35:49Speaker 3: was swiping.
- 35:51Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, definitely don't look at pauln when you're on
- 35:54Speaker 1: the train, just saying you know that. But that would
- 36:01Speaker 1: have to be I can't see that ever being legalized
- 36:07Speaker 1: for a couple of reasons, probably the main reason being driving.
- 36:13Speaker 1: Imagine driving, but you've also got other shit coming up
- 36:16Speaker 1: in your vision other than the road ahead of you.
- 36:21Speaker 3: How do you control that? I mean, I see people
- 36:24Speaker 3: as I do a lot of driving at the moment,
- 36:26Speaker 3: and I know you do certainly do as well. I
- 36:29Speaker 3: would in a drive to Melbourne in an hour, I
- 36:32Speaker 3: would I reckon comfortably see three people on their phones.
- 36:36Speaker 2: Ah, of course easily.
- 36:38Speaker 1: You know, like what's yeah, I'm with you. I mean,
- 36:43Speaker 1: obviously I would think all three of us. Our phone
- 36:45Speaker 1: just goes through our car. I don't even have to
- 36:47Speaker 1: just go call Patrick and the car calls Patrick. Even
- 36:50Speaker 1: in my old little cheap car, it still does the same, right.
- 36:55Speaker 1: But but I think, you know, like turning, turning something
- 37:02Speaker 1: on where you've got to take your eyes off the
- 37:03Speaker 1: road and look at whatever it is, the panel, the like,
- 37:07Speaker 1: that's that's not like it's not illegal to turn the
- 37:10Speaker 1: heater on or the air conditioning on, or to change
- 37:13Speaker 1: the channel while you're driving. But otherwise you wouldn't have
- 37:17Speaker 1: that capacity. It would disable that as soon as the
- 37:19Speaker 1: start the car started moving. But yeah, I think of
- 37:23Speaker 1: course talking on you know, look holding your phone, looking
- 37:26Speaker 1: at your phone, using your phone, per se stupid. But
- 37:29Speaker 1: I think there are other things that happen in a
- 37:31Speaker 1: car that are just as Like is it illegal to
- 37:34Speaker 1: drink a glass of orange juice while you're driving or
- 37:37Speaker 1: a coffee from Macers? It's not illegal, is it. Well,
- 37:42Speaker 1: you've got to put that back in the cup holder
- 37:44Speaker 1: where you're not doing that blind. You've got to look
- 37:46Speaker 1: at it. You've got to put it in. Then you've
- 37:48Speaker 1: got to take your eyes off the road to reach
- 37:50Speaker 1: over and get it. I don't know. There's just a
- 37:53Speaker 1: lot of things that happen in a car that to
- 37:55Speaker 1: me seem equally distracting, as you know, talking on a
- 38:00Speaker 1: phone or picking up He's gone again, Tim.
- 38:02Speaker 2: I haven't gone. I'm right here. But talking about legality,
- 38:04Speaker 2: how about this one.
- 38:05Speaker 3: You're driving in your car, you drive through a drive
- 38:08Speaker 3: through at a Macka's or whatever, and you pay with
- 38:12Speaker 3: your phone. Well, technically you've just broken the law because
- 38:15Speaker 3: the car is running, you're sitting behind the vehicle, it's
- 38:18Speaker 3: not parked, and you've just used your phone to pay.
- 38:21Speaker 3: You could sit if you were you're with the Boys
- 38:23Speaker 3: in Blue. You could sit at a takeout and just
- 38:26Speaker 3: fine every person who goes through the drive through. But
- 38:29Speaker 3: that's technically right, isn't it.
- 38:32Speaker 1: Page. I'm not that familiar with the leg out, but
- 38:36Speaker 1: it probably probably technically. But the boys and girls in
- 38:41Speaker 1: Blue in Victoria are having a bit of a holiday
- 38:43Speaker 1: at the moment. Anyway, you so do your best. They
- 38:46Speaker 1: were yesterday, I think. By the way, shout out to
- 38:49Speaker 1: vic pol do great work.
- 38:50Speaker 3: Amazing they're fantastic.
- 38:52Speaker 1: That is that is a fucking not only is that
- 38:55Speaker 1: a tough job, but also it's like, I don't know
- 38:59Speaker 1: why with some people police are unpopular. What do you
- 39:04Speaker 1: try a world without police. Let's give that a go.
- 39:07Speaker 1: Let's see how let's see how anarchy works for you.
- 39:10Speaker 3: They're unpopular until something happens, they've broken down by the
- 39:14Speaker 3: side of the road or someone's broken into their house,
- 39:17Speaker 3: and certainly they need them, and then they're their best friends.
- 39:20Speaker 3: I don't know, it's a perspective thing, but I've been
- 39:23Speaker 3: fortunate in my career as a journalist, and also I've
- 39:25Speaker 3: got many friends over the years who I've managed to
- 39:28Speaker 3: interact with who are police, and I see what they
- 39:32Speaker 3: go through. I know you are in the same boat
- 39:34Speaker 3: with You've had lots of friends over the years who
- 39:37Speaker 3: have worked in the industry, have been members. And I
- 39:41Speaker 3: think it's an altruistic thing that people do when they
- 39:44Speaker 3: want to be in an industry that services people, whether
- 39:46Speaker 3: they work in the armed forces or they happen to
- 39:49Speaker 3: an ambulance officer or a police officer.
- 39:52Speaker 2: So much respect for those people.
- 39:54Speaker 1: I think all of those face you know, those people.
- 39:56Speaker 1: Let the nurses doctors paramout all of those and that
- 40:00Speaker 1: is that is apart from the fact that what cops
- 40:05Speaker 1: do is high risk. I mean, you know, they see
- 40:09Speaker 1: a lot of shit that humans probably shouldn't see or
- 40:12Speaker 1: were definitely not built to see. They see a lot
- 40:14Speaker 1: of shit. And you don't clock off at five o'clock
- 40:17Speaker 1: and the shit stays at work, like you take this
- 40:19Speaker 1: shit home. That's a whole different episode. But yeah, whatever
- 40:23Speaker 1: they get paid, it ain't enough.
- 40:26Speaker 3: And nurses and teachers, yeah the list, Ye, all right,
- 40:31Speaker 3: next patrickaving your money Crago. Here's a pack that I
- 40:36Speaker 3: read in c neet an article, And if you have
- 40:41Speaker 3: a Gmail account, you've got fifteen gigabytes of storage, which
- 40:44Speaker 3: is a reasonable amount of storage. But because there are
- 40:46Speaker 3: literally billions of people who are on Gmail, who you
- 40:50Speaker 3: have Google accounts, they cap it at fifteen gig What
- 40:54Speaker 3: that then means is, once you've filled up that space,
- 40:57Speaker 3: you've only got the only option you've got is to
- 40:59Speaker 3: delet stuff or to then pay a subscription to increase
- 41:04Speaker 3: the memory storage.
- 41:05Speaker 2: But there is an.
- 41:09Speaker 1: Oh, and Patrick's gone. We'll be back with normal programming
- 41:14Speaker 1: in just one minute. TIV. Let's just keep Let's just
- 41:18Speaker 1: keep talking and let's leave this in because what happened
- 41:21Speaker 1: just then, everyone is Patrick just disappeared off the screen,
- 41:28Speaker 1: and considering.
- 41:30Speaker 4: His whole login failed, he didn't get up this time
- 41:33Speaker 4: and leave.
- 41:34Speaker 1: No, yeah, no, no, no, he's just okay. Just did
- 41:40Speaker 1: you just lean on a button that you shouldn't have?
- 41:43Speaker 3: No, I didn't lean on a button that I should have.
- 41:46Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I'm trying to connect you to my
- 41:48Speaker 2: road cast. To give me two seconds, can you hear me?
- 41:52Speaker 1: It is? It sounds a little bit like you're in
- 41:54Speaker 1: a phone booth now, but that's okay.
- 41:56Speaker 3: No, No, that's because I haven't connected to my device.
- 42:00Speaker 2: I see, give me two seconds.
- 42:03Speaker 1: Leave all this in, Tiff. This is great. This is
- 42:07Speaker 1: the organic nature of podcasts. Fuck, there's no editing, there's
- 42:11Speaker 1: no fluff. Yes, and his back. Hello, Yeah, no, i
- 42:14Speaker 1: I'm back that I'm back on my phone.
- 42:16Speaker 2: I'm trying to connect you to my road caster, right.
- 42:20Speaker 1: That is why your audio is rock solid.
- 42:24Speaker 3: Sc Give me a few seconds and I'll be able
- 42:27Speaker 3: to get it all back on again.
- 42:29Speaker 2: God, and we're back.
- 42:31Speaker 1: You didn't even know where were gone because Tiff is
- 42:33Speaker 1: so fucking brilliant at editing. But we're back because Patrick's
- 42:39Speaker 1: Internet did a big poo.
- 42:41Speaker 2: And as the Internet, what was it?
- 42:45Speaker 4: Well?
- 42:45Speaker 3: Can I just say that for the last fifteen minutes,
- 42:48Speaker 3: I have suffered the equivalent of range anxiety. Go on,
- 42:54Speaker 3: so we know what range anxiety is. Right when you
- 42:56Speaker 3: driving this? We do?
- 42:57Speaker 1: We do? You think?
- 42:59Speaker 3: In my battery down to five percent and I've still
- 43:01Speaker 3: going to go one hundred kilometers.
- 43:03Speaker 1: Yes.
- 43:03Speaker 3: So I've set up in the studio in my new
- 43:06Speaker 3: studio area in my garage, right, and I have everything
- 43:09Speaker 3: set up, and I got an old laptop, and I
- 43:11Speaker 3: was going to podcast with the old laptop and realized
- 43:15Speaker 3: that it wasn't connecting properly.
- 43:16Speaker 2: It was too old.
- 43:18Speaker 3: So I rushed inside, grabbed my proper laptop, brought it out,
- 43:22Speaker 3: and I thought, I won't need the power supply. We're
- 43:25Speaker 3: only going to be talking for a short time.
- 43:26Speaker 2: I'm going to do it.
- 43:27Speaker 3: I was only you know, I was here at eight
- 43:28Speaker 3: o'clock an hour just doing a bit more research. Jump
- 43:32Speaker 3: into the show. Battery life's about four hours easy, done
- 43:35Speaker 3: two hours ago, no problem. So then I get this
- 43:38Speaker 3: notification on my laptop about twenty minutes ago where it
- 43:42Speaker 3: says power getting low. So I dimmed the screen to
- 43:46Speaker 3: the point so dark I can't read anything of it,
- 43:51Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, please, please last for the duration of
- 43:56Speaker 3: the show.
- 43:57Speaker 2: And then it just went blank so it won't happen.
- 44:02Speaker 3: My laptop went flat because I couldn't be bothered dragging.
- 44:06Speaker 2: The power supply out.
- 44:08Speaker 1: All right, now it's nine point fifty two. I've got
- 44:10Speaker 1: a ten ish, so we've got a ten minute window.
- 44:14Speaker 1: You were telling us about if our Gmail is full,
- 44:17Speaker 1: and what were you telling us, how we can get
- 44:19Speaker 1: some more data or something.
- 44:21Speaker 3: Yeah, because we get fifteen gig of data and generally,
- 44:24Speaker 3: over years and years of having a Gmail account, it
- 44:26Speaker 3: just fills up. And you get to the point because
- 44:28Speaker 3: I think we spoke once about having ten thousand emails
- 44:30Speaker 3: in your.
- 44:31Speaker 2: Inbox, that sort of thing. So you've got two choices.
- 44:34Speaker 3: One is you pay for more storage or you delete
- 44:37Speaker 3: a whole lot of stuff. There is a third. Yes,
- 44:40Speaker 3: I can't quite read off your phone, but it's probably got.
- 44:42Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it says. Twelve six hundred and
- 44:45Speaker 1: eighty two emails I haven't opened.
- 44:49Speaker 2: No wonder you never answered me.
- 44:53Speaker 1: Is that bad?
- 44:55Speaker 2: It's very bad. You know you've got inbox anxiety.
- 44:59Speaker 1: I have no inbox anxiety. I don't fucking think about it.
- 45:02Speaker 1: I have inbox indifference.
- 45:06Speaker 3: I now have in box anxiety over your Phone's hilarious.
- 45:11Speaker 3: So here's a really interesting hack that I saw on
- 45:14Speaker 3: seen It. All you've got to do is you just
- 45:16Speaker 3: open up another free Google account, back up all of
- 45:20Speaker 3: your old emails, throw them into the new account that
- 45:22Speaker 3: you've set up, and then just go happily along wiping
- 45:25Speaker 3: out all that storage and you've got free storage again.
- 45:30Speaker 1: That I do not know how to do that, but
- 45:32Speaker 1: that sounds tippy. Know how to do that? It is?
- 45:35Speaker 2: Actually yeah, you can just and you can Google it.
- 45:37Speaker 3: It's not that hard to do to do a backup
- 45:39Speaker 3: of your emails and back up of your data but effectively.
- 45:42Speaker 1: But for our listeners are going, yep, can you slow
- 45:45Speaker 1: that down, Patrick, because I need to tell them give
- 45:48Speaker 1: them a like? So where do they go? And what
- 45:50Speaker 1: do they Google?
- 45:51Speaker 3: So you what you initially, what you've got to do
- 45:53Speaker 3: is open up a new Gmail account. So you go
- 45:56Speaker 3: and get another free Google email and it could be
- 46:00Speaker 3: Craig Harper's second email account at gmail dot com, right,
- 46:05Speaker 3: and then Craigcarpers third.
- 46:06Speaker 2: Craigcarp Is fourth.
- 46:07Speaker 3: And you might fill up your email in there, and
- 46:10Speaker 3: then there is a process you can go to so
- 46:12Speaker 3: how to back up my Gmail emails and then you
- 46:16Speaker 3: just back them all up and reimport them to the
- 46:17Speaker 3: other email account.
- 46:19Speaker 2: Yeah, always a great hack. All right, that's it's useful.
- 46:23Speaker 1: Let's you actually saved us some money today. Let's have
- 46:29Speaker 1: you got another story for us something that's tickled. What
- 46:32Speaker 1: about Russia finding Google twenty dacillion, which is twenty billion, trillion,
- 46:38Speaker 1: trillion dollars. Why Russia so angry at Google?
- 46:43Speaker 2: Everyone's angry at Google.
- 46:44Speaker 3: Sometimes I just want to just see people know how
- 46:46Speaker 3: much money we're talking about. It's actually twenty docillion dollars
- 46:50Speaker 3: is thirty three zeros, so it's a twenty with thirty
- 46:55Speaker 3: three zeros at the end. So this has been going
- 46:58Speaker 3: on for about twenty so sorry about four years. And
- 47:02Speaker 3: so what happened was originally the fine was for a
- 47:05Speaker 3: one hundred thousand ruples and this was handed out to
- 47:09Speaker 3: Google in twenty twenty after basically it was a lawsuit
- 47:15Speaker 3: related to just certain restrictions on YouTube channels. But what
- 47:19Speaker 3: happened was Google ignored it and then in Russia they
- 47:25Speaker 3: double the bill every year so basically that's why it
- 47:30Speaker 3: got so big. So every every year, sorry, every second,
- 47:33Speaker 3: every day, so every day you don't pay the bill,
- 47:36Speaker 3: it doubles.
- 47:38Speaker 1: Wow, is there? What is there a deal for cash?
- 47:42Speaker 1: Like Google? Was there an installment plan? Is there? Yeah? Yeah?
- 47:47Speaker 3: It all related also to the invasion of Ukraine as well,
- 47:51Speaker 3: so you know it all.
- 47:53Speaker 2: Is tied in with that. But yeah, so a decillion,
- 47:57Speaker 2: twenty tazillion dollars.
- 47:59Speaker 3: I mean I I saw it written down and I
- 48:02Speaker 3: couldn't take it. I couldn't fathom that number. Try just
- 48:05Speaker 3: try writing twenty and adding thirty three zeros and your
- 48:08Speaker 3: brain starts to just phase out because it's just doing
- 48:11Speaker 3: that now, Tiff, because it's just crazy.
- 48:15Speaker 1: Speaking of wealth and tech. So the richest man in
- 48:19Speaker 1: the world is about to become part of the new
- 48:23Speaker 1: US government or the new like Donald Trump is put
- 48:27Speaker 1: him on his team. Oh really, well yeah no he
- 48:30Speaker 1: can you just google? What is Elon Musk's new role
- 48:34Speaker 1: going to be? It's like a can you get that
- 48:37Speaker 1: cat out of my there's a cat on your keyboard?
- 48:40Speaker 1: Could you? I Mean, I'm not really all over this,
- 48:44Speaker 1: but I know that Elon Musk has been given a
- 48:46Speaker 1: role in the fucking whatever it is? What's his new
- 48:49Speaker 1: job on Donald Trump's team?
- 48:52Speaker 3: Hey, wild tips looking that up. Just know that the
- 48:55Speaker 3: most expensive or the most valuable company in the world
- 48:59Speaker 3: now is a company called in Video.
- 49:01Speaker 2: It's overtaken Apple.
- 49:04Speaker 1: I saw that, and I've never heard of in Video,
- 49:08Speaker 1: which doesn't matter. But I'm like, I would think the
- 49:10Speaker 1: most valuable company in the world, I would have heard
- 49:14Speaker 1: at least of the brand. What do they do?
- 49:17Speaker 3: It's probably powering the micro chip inside your graphics card,
- 49:21Speaker 3: So I always thought of in Video as a graphic
- 49:24Speaker 3: card companies. They basically you need a card in your
- 49:26Speaker 3: computer that powers the visual device, so that powers the screen,
- 49:31Speaker 3: and that's in video makes lots of chips, so effectively
- 49:34Speaker 3: it's a it's a computer chip manufacturer. People who are
- 49:38Speaker 3: into gaming will all know in video they make really
- 49:40Speaker 3: good video cards, which you need to be able to
- 49:43Speaker 3: do really good high end gaming graphics. And if you
- 49:47Speaker 3: work in the video space where you produce high end
- 49:50Speaker 3: video or Pixar, the people that make all those animations,
- 49:55Speaker 3: you would definitely know who in Video is and what
- 49:57Speaker 3: in video does, So they're they're just a yeah chip manufacturer.
- 50:01Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, did you did you find.
- 50:05Speaker 4: It is the Department of Government Efficiency.
- 50:11Speaker 1: He is the the head of the cheekily titled Department
- 50:16Speaker 1: of Government Efficiency.
- 50:18Speaker 2: What does that even mean?
- 50:20Speaker 1: Which abbreviates to dodge.
- 50:24Speaker 3: I like that they thought about that being just dodgy.
- 50:27Speaker 1: That's funny. That's funny. There's one other thing I wanted
- 50:32Speaker 1: you to just touch on quickly. Oh yeah, Melbourne Supermarket
- 50:34Speaker 1: will be the first in the country to use AI
- 50:38Speaker 1: powered smart trolleys. What how does what does that look like? Like?
- 50:42Speaker 1: What does that mean?
- 50:43Speaker 3: Well, practice trolley will literally have a screen on it
- 50:47Speaker 3: and what it will mean is as you shop, it
- 50:51Speaker 3: will what you're putting into the trolley. It will make
- 50:54Speaker 3: it easier because you basically it scans everything as that
- 50:57Speaker 3: goes into the trolley and you will be able to
- 51:00Speaker 3: pay via your shopping trolley.
- 51:02Speaker 2: You don't have to line up at the checkout. They're trialing.
- 51:04Speaker 3: I think Cole's is going to be the ones that
- 51:06Speaker 3: are going to try the smart trolley and they've teamed
- 51:08Speaker 3: up with the American company but the sensors, so they're
- 51:11Speaker 3: using this advanced AI and in built scales and senses.
- 51:16Speaker 3: So if you put your fruit in theirge on, you
- 51:17Speaker 3: can weigh them before you chuck them into the car
- 51:20Speaker 3: as well, so you won't have to worry about ever
- 51:22Speaker 3: needing to queue up. You've got spos built into it.
- 51:26Speaker 3: It's got a digital screen you can browse specials while
- 51:29Speaker 3: you're walking around the aisles. There's a little bit about
- 51:31Speaker 3: it that kind of makes me think it's a bit
- 51:33Speaker 3: sad because I go shopping on a after I talk
- 51:37Speaker 3: my tai Chi class on a Wednesday night, and I
- 51:39Speaker 3: go to two different supermarkets and one of them has
- 51:42Speaker 3: self serve checkout. Well, they both do, and I like
- 51:46Speaker 3: to talk to the checkout operator. Well, I'd like to
- 51:48Speaker 3: talk full stop, as you know, but I don't mind
- 51:51Speaker 3: lining up and having a chat. But when you're just
- 51:54Speaker 3: check it out yourself. That didn't sound right.
- 51:57Speaker 1: Did it.
- 51:57Speaker 3: When they're checking out yourself, it's like a mirror list
- 52:01Speaker 3: of a private moment. But that the other supermarket, when
- 52:04Speaker 3: I go there, they don't have any registers that are
- 52:08Speaker 3: they're all self served and they just have stuff standing
- 52:11Speaker 3: there making sure you're not nicking stuff. So I think
- 52:14Speaker 3: it's a little bit sad, particularly you know that we're
- 52:17Speaker 3: not having that human interaction and now we don't even
- 52:19Speaker 3: have to talk to anybody. They probably won't even have
- 52:21Speaker 3: people at checkouts anymore. They'll just have security cameras. I
- 52:25Speaker 3: think Amazon had the first automated shopping center, didn't it.
- 52:29Speaker 3: We didn't have any people at all. You just walked in.
- 52:31Speaker 1: And do you think so? I'm with you, Like I've
- 52:35Speaker 1: got a wool Wars five hundred meters from my house,
- 52:38Speaker 1: and I've got an Ida fifty meters from my house.
- 52:41Speaker 1: I go to IgA for ninety percent of my staff.
- 52:44Speaker 1: And by the way, it's often cheaper than more worse.
- 52:46Speaker 1: And no, I'm not sponsored by IgA, but a lot
- 52:49Speaker 1: of stuff. You'd think I'll be way dearer because it's smaller,
- 52:52Speaker 1: it ain't. And Shane, I fucking love Shane. Shout out
- 52:57Speaker 1: to Shane who owns it, who's just a young dude
- 53:00Speaker 1: with a wife and a kid, just fucking trying to
- 53:02Speaker 1: make ends meet. And I love giving Shane money. I
- 53:06Speaker 1: love going over going and he goes mate and we like.
- 53:10Speaker 1: I know him, he knows me, he knows most of
- 53:12Speaker 1: the customers' names. And it's just good. I'm with you.
- 53:17Speaker 1: It's a little bit reminds me of my childhood, where
- 53:20Speaker 1: you go and buy groceries and the person you buying
- 53:23Speaker 1: them from those who you are and you have a
- 53:25Speaker 1: relationship and yeah, so I'm going to keep that. So
- 53:29Speaker 1: I g A keep going, keep going, because all the
- 53:32Speaker 1: fucking dinosaurs like me and Patrick, we're going to keep
- 53:35Speaker 1: showing up. Tip. On the other hand, I do.
- 53:37Speaker 4: I g do you IgA in food works in Ellwood?
- 53:42Speaker 4: I like going him for a chat?
- 53:43Speaker 1: I stand corrected. Thank you. See that's three out of three.
- 53:47Speaker 1: I g A keep doing what you're doing.
- 53:49Speaker 3: So next time you go in there speaking to your buddy,
- 53:51Speaker 3: call it iger. We call it I get down here.
- 53:54Speaker 1: Why is that?
- 53:55Speaker 2: I don't know, because that's what it spells ig.
- 53:58Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's insane.
- 54:00Speaker 2: It's not I've always called it IgA.
- 54:02Speaker 1: Well, we could all call you Pa trick, but we
- 54:05Speaker 1: don't call you Patrick because you know.
- 54:08Speaker 2: Or if you haven't heard that, I've always called it iger.
- 54:12Speaker 1: No, have you ever called an ig iger tiff negative? Yeah?
- 54:18Speaker 3: The thing that they do just in my town, in
- 54:20Speaker 3: Bewen rather than Bland.
- 54:22Speaker 1: I think that is true. Patrick. How do people find you? Followy,
- 54:25Speaker 1: connect with you, come and stay at your house for
- 54:27Speaker 1: the weekend. You should do an AIRB and B. I
- 54:30Speaker 1: should do like a you should do a weekend. This
- 54:34Speaker 1: is what you should listen to me fucking telling you
- 54:36Speaker 1: what you should do. Ignore this. But now that you've
- 54:39Speaker 1: almost got your new Tay Cheese studio, I was going
- 54:43Speaker 1: to say, yeah, you would have kicked me in the
- 54:44Speaker 1: dick for picking the wrong martial art or whatever it is,
- 54:47Speaker 1: the wrong art. Now that you've almost got your new
- 54:51Speaker 1: tay Cheese studio, you could have like a small little retreat,
- 54:54Speaker 1: couldn't you? Yeah?
- 54:56Speaker 2: I could, I could.
- 54:58Speaker 1: Could you be less enthusiastic?
- 55:01Speaker 3: No, I will like in run little workshops. The plan
- 55:03Speaker 3: is to run some little workshops. I do enjoy doing
- 55:05Speaker 3: those and you can focus. One of the things I
- 55:08Speaker 3: like about doing tai chie workshops is you can focus
- 55:10Speaker 3: on the finessing of the moves because tai chi is
- 55:13Speaker 3: a very slow moving martial art, and you know, on
- 55:17Speaker 3: the surface it looks pretty lame, you know, just people
- 55:19Speaker 3: moving around slowly. But if you think of a karate
- 55:22Speaker 3: move where you kicked somebody, that would happen in a
- 55:24Speaker 3: fraction of a second. But if you do it in
- 55:26Speaker 3: tai chi, you've got to focus all of your balance
- 55:29Speaker 3: on one foot, you slowly lift up the other leg
- 55:31Speaker 3: and you kick out. That's a lot of core stability
- 55:34Speaker 3: to be able to get you to stand on one
- 55:36Speaker 3: leg then extend the other leg, which is throwing your
- 55:39Speaker 3: center of gravity out, and then letting it come back
- 55:42Speaker 3: down again slowly. So there's a lot of strength in
- 55:44Speaker 3: moving slowly. So answer your question. Yeah, it'd be great idea,
- 55:47Speaker 3: Crago and you could come to and so ad tip.
- 55:51Speaker 1: Yeah, I could it. Hi, every one, welcome to tai
- 55:54Speaker 1: Chi one oh one with Patrick. It's not a very
- 55:57Speaker 1: good martial art, but fuck it's graceful. Other bloke's already
- 56:00Speaker 1: kicked you in the face four times while you're moving
- 56:03Speaker 1: your legs slowly in a horizontal position.
- 56:06Speaker 2: I could relax you to death.
- 56:07Speaker 1: Craig, just watch yourself. Tell people how to find your son.
- 56:11Speaker 3: How you go to websites now, dot com, dot au
- 56:14Speaker 3: if you want to talk about websites and branding and logos.
- 56:19Speaker 2: And tai chi and anything, or just come.
- 56:21Speaker 3: Up for the weekend, you know, just come up the weekend.
- 56:24Speaker 1: Just come up. I'll tell you what. Someone is going
- 56:25Speaker 1: to take you up on that. And you're going to
- 56:26Speaker 1: get some fucking stalky stork stuff.
- 56:32Speaker 4: What's that I'm going to take him up on?
- 56:34Speaker 2: It there you go.
- 56:36Speaker 3: Really we can have some puppy play dates because tips,
- 56:39Speaker 3: I'm going.
- 56:40Speaker 4: To rub my bike up on bringing the dog.
- 56:42Speaker 1: Really okay, who's going to look after the dog?
- 56:49Speaker 4: You had to look after it?
- 56:51Speaker 1: Can just jomp over here. Yeah. When you get back,
- 56:57Speaker 1: her and I might be gone. All right, we'll say
- 57:01Speaker 1: goodbye affair, but thank you both of you. Have a
- 57:03Speaker 1: good day.
- 57:05Speaker 3: Bye bye.