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- 0:13Speaker 1: And is jugging back in the morning Sports Radio ninety
- 0:15Speaker 1: three point three kJ R FM, joining us now and
- 0:18Speaker 1: it's set. One of the newcomers for your Seattle Mariners
- 0:20Speaker 1: this year, acquired this offseason be a free agency. Rob
- 0:24Speaker 1: Refsneider is with us on the program.
- 0:26Speaker 2: How are you man?
- 0:27Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, appreciate it being with it. You
- 0:29Speaker 1: got the witness history. Bucky jogged over here to interviews.
- 0:33Speaker 1: A it's a good job.
- 0:34Speaker 2: It's recent history. I jogged at one point in my life,
- 0:37Speaker 2: just not in a long time.
- 0:38Speaker 1: Yeah, former Mariner, he jogged around the bases at one point.
- 0:43Speaker 1: But that's the first time I've jogged seen him jogging
- 0:46Speaker 1: ten years.
- 0:46Speaker 2: Rob, it's been a while.
- 0:48Speaker 3: The only reason I would like to jog is doing
- 0:50Speaker 3: what you get to do, so said Bombs. Otherwise I
- 0:52Speaker 3: can just I'll get there when I get there.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, how are you liking being a Seattle Mariner
- 0:58Speaker 1: in your very short time here?
- 1:00Speaker 4: It's been great so far. It's a new experience, obviously,
- 1:03Speaker 4: but just trying to learn as many names as possible
- 1:05Speaker 4: and and you know, just learn as much as possible.
- 1:09Speaker 4: Just finished up batting practice. Edgar came in a couple
- 1:12Speaker 4: of days ago, So just be able to pick Edgar's
- 1:15Speaker 4: mind and just be around and has been a real treat.
- 1:18Speaker 4: And then shoot, we got eu Troa Cameron in the
- 1:20Speaker 4: outfield helping us out. So it's uh, just to have
- 1:23Speaker 4: that that wealth and knowledge has been incredible and I
- 1:26Speaker 4: feel really fortunate just to be kind of be around
- 1:28Speaker 4: those guys and a little bit of a low more
- 1:31Speaker 4: low pressure kind of situation, just to be able to
- 1:34Speaker 4: pick their minds and get to work a little bit.
- 1:36Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean you've been around the league. You're
- 1:38Speaker 2: not you know, you're not young coming.
- 1:40Speaker 3: Over here by any stretch, But have you had have
- 1:43Speaker 3: you ever had anybody like Edgar Martinez to pick their brain?
- 1:46Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:46Speaker 4: I think a lot of organizations do a great job
- 1:49Speaker 4: of just bringing bringing some of the you know, the
- 1:54Speaker 4: Hall of Famers and some incredible talent and knowledge in
- 1:57Speaker 4: spring training, it's but to have someone on Edgar on
- 2:00Speaker 4: staff be able to help you out throughout the season,
- 2:04Speaker 4: and the guys will send each rows in Seattle, a
- 2:06Speaker 4: bunch always kind of there in president and able to help.
- 2:10Speaker 4: It's just incredible. So not as much during the year,
- 2:13Speaker 4: but yeah, just to be able to have those guys
- 2:17Speaker 4: in the year, it's going to be incredible.
- 2:19Speaker 2: Are you amazed?
- 2:19Speaker 1: Like this long in the league and there's just always
- 2:21Speaker 1: so much more to learn. There's a new trick to
- 2:23Speaker 1: learn about hitting.
- 2:25Speaker 4: Definitely, I mean.
- 2:28Speaker 2: Trying to say it the right way.
- 2:29Speaker 4: It's just there's so much more information ways to get better.
- 2:34Speaker 4: Off seasons are a lot shorter.
- 2:37Speaker 5: You know.
- 2:38Speaker 4: When I was younger, off seasons were a little bit
- 2:40Speaker 4: it felt a little bit longer. You took a little
- 2:41Speaker 4: bit more time off. Now, I mean, if you take
- 2:44Speaker 4: that much time off, you just kind of get blown
- 2:45Speaker 4: away by by your competition.
- 2:48Speaker 2: So you take shoot.
- 2:50Speaker 4: Sometimes it's only like a week or a week or
- 2:52Speaker 4: so off, and then you get to work and I think,
- 2:54Speaker 4: you guys, I'm sure you guys have talked to i mean,
- 2:57Speaker 4: such incredible pitching staff, and you know, you're they're doing
- 3:00Speaker 4: pitch design stuff. A couple of weeks into the off season.
- 3:03Speaker 4: They're really getting after it and the hitters have to too.
- 3:06Speaker 4: So it's uh, it's just it's so different.
- 3:08Speaker 1: You want to face them anymore, one less thing to
- 3:10Speaker 1: worry about. Of course, you probably we don't have a
- 3:12Speaker 1: left hand in our rotations.
- 3:13Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't face you guys very often. Yeah, I
- 3:16Speaker 4: got a spot start against Brian Woo last year. It
- 3:18Speaker 4: didn't go well.
- 3:21Speaker 2: Well. Joined the club and didn't go very well for
- 3:23Speaker 2: very many people.
- 3:24Speaker 3: Being a utility guy that kind of bounces around, do
- 3:27Speaker 3: you take pride in the fact that you got multiple
- 3:28Speaker 3: gloves and you can play everywhere? Or is it just
- 3:31Speaker 3: I don't care where I played, Just write my name
- 3:33Speaker 3: in the lineup.
- 3:34Speaker 4: I haven't played the infield since twenty so just it's uh, yeah,
- 3:41Speaker 4: I did that in twenty and then it's been almost
- 3:44Speaker 4: all outfield, So it's more more as like an emergency thing.
- 3:48Speaker 4: But I think you look at our lineup and there's
- 3:51Speaker 4: just there's so many different, you know, kind of moves
- 3:55Speaker 4: that Dan can make, so just being able to be
- 3:57Speaker 4: ready and you know, who knows what's gonna happen. But
- 4:01Speaker 4: there's a we have a we have a really deep
- 4:03Speaker 4: bench and a really really you know, a wealth of
- 4:06Speaker 4: really talented players kind of across the board of the lineup.
- 4:09Speaker 4: So it's a you know, maybe a lot of pinsioning,
- 4:12Speaker 4: maybe not, but you know, I think we're all gonna
- 4:14Speaker 4: be ready to come in and just have a good
- 4:16Speaker 4: at bat.
- 4:16Speaker 1: Hopefully, you know, I mean, I don't think there's anybody
- 4:19Speaker 1: that is ever in a platoon situation that wouldn't tell
- 4:22Speaker 1: you I can hit righties if I just see more righties.
- 4:25Speaker 1: But you have just owned this batting against lefties kind
- 4:29Speaker 1: of platoon thing at this uh in the last five
- 4:32Speaker 1: years of your career. What did you learn over time,
- 4:36Speaker 1: uh in facing lefties that allowed you to thrive the
- 4:40Speaker 1: way you have.
- 4:41Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of a good way to that you
- 4:43Speaker 4: put it. It's I think all everybody on the lineup
- 4:46Speaker 4: aspires to play as much as possible, but at the
- 4:49Speaker 4: end of the day, you're part of a team, and
- 4:52Speaker 4: you know this team wants to win, and you look
- 4:54Speaker 4: at across our lineup and there's so much talent. I mean,
- 4:59Speaker 4: dom and and Luke and things like that. So yeah,
- 5:02Speaker 4: it just it makes sense, and yeah, I just try
- 5:07Speaker 4: to have a good at bat. And you know, I
- 5:10Speaker 4: think the fans should know how many people are behind
- 5:13Speaker 4: the scenes trying to help you prepare for that day
- 5:16Speaker 4: and get as much knowledge and information for your bats
- 5:19Speaker 4: against the left handed picture for me, so there's a
- 5:21Speaker 4: lot of people behind the scenes and I'm getting to
- 5:23Speaker 4: know in spring training and hopefully build a you know,
- 5:26Speaker 4: a relationship with and a friendship with that that can
- 5:28Speaker 4: help me throughout the year, because I definitely rely on
- 5:31Speaker 4: a lot of those people to help me prepare and
- 5:33Speaker 4: and just try to have it as good as bad
- 5:35Speaker 4: as possible.
- 5:36Speaker 3: Ref I'm wondering what just your approach in general is
- 5:39Speaker 3: when you get to the dish, right, I mean not
- 5:41Speaker 3: like a superpower guy. You're not going up there and
- 5:44Speaker 3: all or nothing type of thing, are you. What's your
- 5:46Speaker 3: overarching approach as to what you would say people would
- 5:49Speaker 3: say is the mo of you when you.
- 5:51Speaker 2: Step up to the blake.
- 5:52Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a big fan of baseball. I grew up
- 5:54Speaker 4: in Orange County, and you know, I watched a lot
- 5:56Speaker 4: of the Angels teams and things like that, and you know,
- 6:00Speaker 4: I just enjoy watching baseball. So for my approach, it's
- 6:03Speaker 4: just it's so based off the pitcher that day. You're
- 6:07Speaker 4: the situation that I'm coming into, you know, you know,
- 6:11Speaker 4: I think early in the count and if there's not
- 6:14Speaker 4: a lot of guys on base and things like that,
- 6:15Speaker 4: and I'm looking at your damage. So it's doing your
- 6:18Speaker 4: homework of what pitches I can handle off that left hander.
- 6:22Speaker 4: You know, there are some left handers that for me
- 6:24Speaker 4: in the way my swing is, it's just not indicative
- 6:27Speaker 4: to you know, damage, So it's more like seeing the
- 6:31Speaker 4: ball deep, working counts, maybe hit the ball the other way.
- 6:35Speaker 4: But you got to have a lot of people behind
- 6:39Speaker 4: the scenes, like I just alluded to, to help you
- 6:41Speaker 4: figure out those things out and doing homework on your own.
- 6:43Speaker 2: So I would say it varies.
- 6:46Speaker 4: There are times when up there and I'm trying to
- 6:49Speaker 4: you know, see a ball close to me and hit
- 6:50Speaker 4: it over the shortstop, and there's other times where I'm
- 6:53Speaker 4: anticipating a sinker changeable way and just trying to shoot
- 6:56Speaker 4: the four hole or hit over the second basement's head.
- 6:58Speaker 4: So you got to be I mean, if you're one
- 7:02Speaker 4: really kind of set approach nowadays, you're you're gonna hit
- 7:05Speaker 4: under two hundred and you're going to be at home
- 7:07Speaker 4: and not helping the team out.
- 7:09Speaker 1: Rob Refschneider is with us right here on Chucking Buck,
- 7:11Speaker 1: one of the newcomers to the teams this season. It's
- 7:14Speaker 1: it's interesting because I do remember you as a young player.
- 7:18Speaker 1: I think he started with the Twins. Maybe I missed
- 7:21Speaker 1: a team there in there.
- 7:23Speaker 2: Maybe summary eight.
- 7:24Speaker 1: Oh is that right?
- 7:25Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 7:25Speaker 1: Sorry, no, I know I think of you as the
- 7:29Speaker 1: as a young player with the Twins, and then there
- 7:32Speaker 1: was your you were sort of labeled an infielder, and
- 7:36Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, here you are in your
- 7:37Speaker 1: thirties and I see like two Sports Center highlight dives
- 7:41Speaker 1: in the outfield, and you've turned into the masher like
- 7:45Speaker 1: you will crush baseballs on occasion. So I'm a little
- 7:50Speaker 1: surprised where the rob Refschneider story ended. Is Rob Refschneider
- 7:56Speaker 1: surprised at how the journey has gone and where it
- 7:59Speaker 1: has come.
- 8:00Speaker 4: Yeah. My debut was in twenty fifteen with the Yankees,
- 8:03Speaker 4: and I was playing second base at the time. Yeah,
- 8:07Speaker 4: and I was a lot more contact oriented, you know,
- 8:10Speaker 4: try to get on base, not as much power, extra
- 8:14Speaker 4: base hits kind of thing. I kind of proud of myself.
- 8:16Speaker 4: I'm putting the ball and playing that striking out and
- 8:20Speaker 4: that kind of led me to the DFA train. And
- 8:24Speaker 4: because I'm not I'm not the fastest guy, so I'm
- 8:26Speaker 4: not going to steal a lot of bases and things
- 8:28Speaker 4: like that. So you know, I bounced around a lot
- 8:31Speaker 4: of organizations, which helped me learn a lot from a
- 8:34Speaker 4: bunch of great hitting coaches, and I never have had
- 8:38Speaker 4: a real big ego about my game. I've never been
- 8:41Speaker 4: like this is the way kind of thing. It's you know,
- 8:44Speaker 4: I feel like I try to take as much information
- 8:46Speaker 4: as possible and just kind of be as honest as possible.
- 8:49Speaker 4: And I wasn't very good early in my career. I
- 8:51Speaker 4: wasn't doing many things as well on the on the
- 8:53Speaker 4: major league side. What I could do was work some
- 8:56Speaker 4: counts and make some contacts. So I tried to leverage
- 9:00Speaker 4: that into uh, learning as much from hitting coaches, and
- 9:03Speaker 4: then you know, trying to you know, not I guess
- 9:06Speaker 4: change my game a little bit, and yeah, just picking spots.
- 9:09Speaker 4: You know, I I can pull the ball well at times,
- 9:12Speaker 4: so just picking the spots where you know, I think
- 9:15Speaker 4: I can do that and other times, you know, you know,
- 9:17Speaker 4: trying to trying to get on base. So my goal,
- 9:20Speaker 4: honestly is to get on base for I mean, look
- 9:23Speaker 4: at our lineup. You got some incredible talent and and
- 9:26Speaker 4: things like that. So it's it's been a long journey,
- 9:29Speaker 4: but I've learned so much from so many great people
- 9:32Speaker 4: along the way, and without those people, I'd be who
- 9:36Speaker 4: knows what I'd be doing, but not not here talking
- 9:39Speaker 4: to you guys, I.
- 9:40Speaker 2: Mean you learn more from your failure and what goals
- 9:43Speaker 2: you've achieved.
- 9:47Speaker 3: Arrived congratchuh, But I mean really you do learn a
- 9:51Speaker 3: lot more from going through the downs and figuring out
- 9:54Speaker 3: how to you pull yourself up by your bootstraps and
- 9:57Speaker 3: and I mean I think that creates some sort of grid.
- 9:59Speaker 3: I'm a big I on just kind of the game
- 10:01Speaker 3: or mentality guys that go out and ball and you know,
- 10:04Speaker 3: it's that you being called.
- 10:05Speaker 2: A ballplayer is what you want more than anything.
- 10:08Speaker 3: Was that something you would say that you've modeled your
- 10:10Speaker 3: game after just being kind of that gritty type of
- 10:13Speaker 3: guy that goes out and you know, once you get
- 10:15Speaker 3: dirty and play, do whatever he has to do.
- 10:16Speaker 2: For his team.
- 10:17Speaker 4: Yeah, not super flashy. Yeah, that's never really been my personality.
- 10:22Speaker 4: I guess I went to University of Arizona under coach
- 10:25Speaker 4: Lopez and yeah, I'm just not very flashy. It's just
- 10:30Speaker 4: kind of a boring guy, like doing about my business,
- 10:32Speaker 4: preparing and just playing as hard as possible.
- 10:35Speaker 2: You know.
- 10:35Speaker 4: I think what we were talking about that I've been
- 10:39Speaker 4: defeated a couple of times. I've been bounced around a
- 10:41Speaker 4: couple of different teams early in my career. So I
- 10:43Speaker 4: definitely realized how fortunate I am to be able to
- 10:46Speaker 4: play baseball every day, and I'm very thankful for that.
- 10:49Speaker 4: So do my best not to take it for granted
- 10:52Speaker 4: and and just get kind of good after it and
- 10:54Speaker 4: play hard. You know, I think I would be doing
- 10:56Speaker 4: a disservice to my parents would They wouldn't be very
- 10:59Speaker 4: happy if I was jogging everywhere and showing a lot
- 11:03Speaker 4: of motion and things like that. I think that's just,
- 11:05Speaker 4: you know, not really part of my personality. And yeah,
- 11:08Speaker 4: so I've always just tried to prepare as much as possible.
- 11:11Speaker 4: And I know I'm not the biggest, fastest, strongest guy.
- 11:14Speaker 4: My dad's always reminded me about that. And then but
- 11:18Speaker 4: he said, that's okay. You know, that's you know, but
- 11:21Speaker 4: you got to prepare and work and work hard, and
- 11:24Speaker 4: you know, shoot, sometimes I look back and I can't
- 11:28Speaker 4: believe I've been doing it for this long.
- 11:30Speaker 1: Yeah, Rob reths Snyder with us. I'll let you go
- 11:33Speaker 1: on this. As Mariner fans, they're excited. They're excited to
- 11:37Speaker 1: have Rob Refsnyder on this team, and they're not always
- 11:40Speaker 1: excited about our additions. Trust me, they can be pretty critical,
- 11:44Speaker 1: but they're excited about having you on this team, it
- 11:45Speaker 1: seems to me, and I know that Red Sox fans
- 11:47Speaker 1: are really bruised by seeing you go. So why did
- 11:53Speaker 1: you leave a place where you're loved and come here
- 11:56Speaker 1: to Seattle? What is it that motivated the move?
- 11:59Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of different things that
- 12:01Speaker 4: go into a decision. Yeah, the the last four years
- 12:04Speaker 4: I was with Boston, and but I mean Jerry was
- 12:10Speaker 4: his communication Jerry and Justin from the very beginning of
- 12:13Speaker 4: season was pretty crystal clear. And I really appreciated that
- 12:17Speaker 4: they were working on a couple of different things, but
- 12:19Speaker 4: they kept myself and my family and the loop. And
- 12:23Speaker 4: you know, just as a baseball fan watching from Afar
- 12:26Speaker 4: and then watching the postseason, it was a it was
- 12:29Speaker 4: a great run and just a I am very thankful
- 12:32Speaker 4: to be a part of it, and that Justin and
- 12:34Speaker 4: Jerry wanted me to be a part of it, and
- 12:37Speaker 4: I feel a lot of gratitude towards them. And met
- 12:40Speaker 4: Justin's son, Elliott, on the field, so I said, I
- 12:42Speaker 4: just want to say thanks to your dad for bringing
- 12:44Speaker 4: me along. So it's a it's a special group. You
- 12:46Speaker 4: can feel it. The older I get you can't really
- 12:49Speaker 4: fake the chemistry, I guess, and generally it's just the
- 12:55Speaker 4: guys are so so uber focused. Sometimes spring training unfortunate. Uh.
- 13:01Speaker 4: You know, you're on some teams or you're been around
- 13:03Speaker 4: some teams where you know it's gonna be a development
- 13:05Speaker 4: year and you know where we're going to develop some
- 13:07Speaker 4: of these young guys and we're gonna you know, do
- 13:09Speaker 4: our best to compete and and kind of do that,
- 13:11Speaker 4: and you can't really fake it or hide from that.
- 13:14Speaker 2: So you know, you come to a.
- 13:16Speaker 4: Group like this and you know there's only one goal
- 13:19Speaker 4: here and it's pretty crystal clear. So it's uh, you know,
- 13:22Speaker 4: it's as a special group, and you know, I'm excited
- 13:26Speaker 4: to be a part of it and just kind of,
- 13:28Speaker 4: you know, do my part.
- 13:29Speaker 2: Whatever that is.
- 13:30Speaker 1: Well, I hope it ends in a World championship. Very
- 13:32Speaker 1: nice to meet you. Welcome to the Mariners.
- 13:34Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 13:35Speaker 1: Rob Refsnyder joining us right here on Chuck A Buck
- 13:38Speaker 1: in the mornings. Uh Man, there there he goes. He's
- 13:42Speaker 1: he's put together by the way. I mean, it's quite
- 13:45Speaker 1: the testament to him. I mean he called it the
- 13:48Speaker 1: DFA train where it was difficult for him to stay
- 13:51Speaker 1: on a major league roster for pretty much the prime
- 13:56Speaker 1: of his career, and yet he's still in the league
- 13:59Speaker 1: at age thirty five because he figured out, well, where
- 14:02Speaker 1: is my Nietzsche? Where can I stay? Where can I
- 14:05Speaker 1: contribute to a major league roster? And for the last
- 14:08Speaker 1: five years it's not been as what he was groomed
- 14:10Speaker 1: to be, which was a starting second baseman for the
- 14:13Speaker 1: New York Yankees once upon a time. What he ended
- 14:17Speaker 1: up being is a platoon outfielder who will make the
- 14:22Speaker 1: occasional spectacular play because he's an athletic dude, and because
- 14:27Speaker 1: he's he's seen the weight room a time or two.
- 14:29Speaker 1: I mean, he's rock solid. He can also crush left
- 14:33Speaker 1: handers at the plate, and he's just turned that into
- 14:37Speaker 1: a really solid back end of his career where the
- 14:41Speaker 1: front end was actually where.
- 14:43Speaker 3: He was left wanting, well the first parts of five seasons.
- 14:47Speaker 3: If you look at his numbers, like a very little
- 14:49Speaker 3: power right and now part of that is, you know,
- 14:51Speaker 3: he's twenty four, twenty five, but then that's when you're
- 14:54Speaker 3: a grown man, and you would think that you would
- 14:57Speaker 3: have developed into it. I think it was more of
- 14:59Speaker 3: a the plan that he had. He was up there like, Okay,
- 15:03Speaker 3: I'm just a guy that's gonna slap it around and
- 15:05Speaker 3: put the ball in play. And he since realized, I
- 15:08Speaker 3: have to be able to have another approach, not just
- 15:11Speaker 3: that approach. That's an approach that you're gonna have to
- 15:13Speaker 3: have in your back pocket because he's not necessarily the
- 15:16Speaker 3: big power guy. He's not gonna, you know, hit dingers
- 15:18Speaker 3: like Julio or cal or a lot of guys across
- 15:20Speaker 3: the league. But he has every once in a while
- 15:22Speaker 3: to be able to open the floodgates. And I think
- 15:24Speaker 3: that's what's kind of changed, is that he just didn't
- 15:26Speaker 3: get rid of that approach. He just added other approaches
- 15:29Speaker 3: depending on who he's facing that every once in a
- 15:32Speaker 3: while he has to try to do damage. And now
- 15:35Speaker 3: all of a sudden, he's thrust himself into a place
- 15:36Speaker 3: where he can be a great role player, a great
- 15:39Speaker 3: platoon player that's maybe more than a role player. Like
- 15:41Speaker 3: you're gonna, dude that we're gonna throw out there against
- 15:44Speaker 3: certain pitchers and you need to go out there. Yeah,
- 15:47Speaker 3: you're gonna need to be a guy that can go
- 15:48Speaker 3: in and you know, start a rally. If you're the
- 15:51Speaker 3: one starting off the inning or if you're playing this
- 15:53Speaker 3: full game, or if you're coming off the bench and
- 15:55Speaker 3: we need to hit a ball on the gap or
- 15:56Speaker 3: out of the yard, then take that approach. And he's
- 15:59Speaker 3: been able to do that. I mean, that's it's a
- 16:01Speaker 3: testament to not being selfish and like he said, not
- 16:05Speaker 3: having an ego about his game. The lack of ego
- 16:08Speaker 3: allows him to say, I'm just not very good at
- 16:10Speaker 3: some things and I have to get better at it.
- 16:13Speaker 3: If you think you're great at everything, then what are
- 16:15Speaker 3: you working on? If you don't think that there's things
- 16:17Speaker 3: you need to work on. He obviously the first part
- 16:19Speaker 3: of his first half of his career he had a
- 16:21Speaker 3: whole bunch of things to work on, and he did,
- 16:22Speaker 3: and now he's carving out a nice long major league.
- 16:25Speaker 1: Baseball career, no doubt, a long career for Rob Refschneider.
- 16:29Speaker 1: And not naturally strong, but has turned it out to
- 16:33Speaker 1: be weight room strong. Where he can, he can inflict
- 16:37Speaker 1: some damage at the plate, and certainly he's an athletic type.
- 16:42Speaker 1: He's got second baseman type athleticism and you'll see it.
- 16:45Speaker 1: You'll see it on display some and he just keeps
- 16:47Speaker 1: his body impeccably. I mean, there's not much fat on
- 16:51Speaker 1: that guy. He's just rock solid and very straightforward. That's
- 16:55Speaker 1: a straightforward professional baseball player right there. I have a
- 16:59Speaker 1: feeling he's not one for giving a hot foot in
- 17:01Speaker 1: the clubhouse. I mean even sort of announced I'm a
- 17:06Speaker 1: bit boring. I'm like, does that spill over into your
- 17:09Speaker 1: personal life as well? I mean, do you have like
- 17:11Speaker 1: a collection of putting?
- 17:13Speaker 5: You know?
- 17:14Speaker 4: Do you yeah?
- 17:15Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 17:15Speaker 4: Do you?
- 17:16Speaker 1: Uh? You know, spend a lot of time watching the
- 17:18Speaker 1: Home and Garden Network? You know, you know, have you
- 17:21Speaker 1: memorized Matt Block episodes?
- 17:24Speaker 2: It's just, uh, I don't.
- 17:25Speaker 1: I don't think that Rob does a lot of exciting
- 17:29Speaker 1: things basically, is what I'm getting at. He does kind
- 17:33Speaker 1: of come off as just straightforward, Razor's edge kind of guy.
- 17:37Speaker 2: Well, you need to have those.
- 17:38Speaker 3: You got to have those on your team, right, You're
- 17:39Speaker 3: gonna have some flash, You're gonna have some sizzle, but
- 17:42Speaker 3: you got to have a lot of steak. And he's
- 17:44Speaker 3: a guy that just brings a steak to it, and
- 17:45Speaker 3: you'll let other people bring the sizzle.
- 17:47Speaker 1: Got like a bottle cap collection? That would be really boring,
- 17:51Speaker 1: You're right, sits around just reading health self help books.
- 17:55Speaker 3: Oh you know, well, good for you. I guess do
- 17:59Speaker 3: whatever too goes your fancy. He doesn't seem like the
- 18:01Speaker 3: type that's going to be highly emotional. Now, whether it's
- 18:04Speaker 3: success or failure, you just take it as it comes
- 18:06Speaker 3: and move on to the next challenge.
- 18:07Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.
- 18:09Speaker 1: Coming up next on the program, Little Seahawks Talk for You,
- 18:12Speaker 1: Brian Fleury introduced to the Seattle media hoard yesterday for
- 18:16Speaker 1: the first time as the World Champs brand new OC,
- 18:20Speaker 1: and then later in the afternoon he made the daring
- 18:24Speaker 1: and dangerous decision to go on with David Softy Maler.
- 18:28Speaker 1: So we're going to replace some of that conversation for
- 18:31Speaker 1: you right here on Chuck and Buck Sports Radio ninety
- 18:33Speaker 1: three point three KJRFM. Oh, good morning, It is Chucking
- 18:52Speaker 1: back in the Morning Sports Radio ninety three point three
- 18:54Speaker 1: k jr FM. So good to be down here all
- 18:57Speaker 1: week long at Mariners spring training. This is our final day,
- 19:01Speaker 1: final day of five here providing you coverage from Peoria
- 19:06Speaker 1: as we get you ready for baseball season. But of
- 19:08Speaker 1: course we had a World Championship football team as well,
- 19:12Speaker 1: and of course that's still a hot topic of conversation,
- 19:16Speaker 1: especially when you have to replace offensive coordinators in the
- 19:20Speaker 1: off season, and so certainly we wanted to talk a
- 19:24Speaker 1: little bit about Brian Florey. But with us being all
- 19:26Speaker 1: the way down here in Arizona and then everybody else
- 19:29Speaker 1: at the station being back in Seattle, they're a little
- 19:32Speaker 1: more locked in on Seahawks football. So why not lean
- 19:36Speaker 1: on our brethren for the very latest and greatest when
- 19:39Speaker 1: it comes to the Seahawks. I mean, for example, I
- 19:42Speaker 1: mean the new Dick Fane. You know phone ad helps
- 19:47Speaker 1: me connect to him, and now I picture you know, Dick,
- 19:51Speaker 1: young Dick Fane, you know, having phone sex with thanks
- 19:55Speaker 1: to that ad, that new ad with his once upon
- 19:58Speaker 1: time bride to bees. It was in Alaska. Yeah, I
- 20:01Speaker 1: don't know if that's the direction they were trying to
- 20:04Speaker 1: get that right, Is that right?
- 20:05Speaker 2: But you know different ads touched.
- 20:07Speaker 1: People in different areas, right, as long as they touch
- 20:09Speaker 1: you though, touched, that's right. And so yes, thank you,
- 20:15Speaker 1: thank you or not thank you? Right, So we know
- 20:22Speaker 1: that about Dick right now. But we also got to
- 20:25Speaker 1: hear Softie yesterday interview Brian Florey, the brand new offensive
- 20:30Speaker 1: coordinator with his Viking beard on the radio station yesterday.
- 20:36Speaker 1: So we decided in case you missed it, we replaced
- 20:39Speaker 1: some of it for you. It was just that good, uh,
- 20:42Speaker 1: and so we'll pick it up. When Softie asked Brian Florey,
- 20:46Speaker 1: how did this job come about for you?
- 20:48Speaker 5: Being a play caller with something I was really always
- 20:51Speaker 5: thinking about and striving for. But I also knew that
- 20:54Speaker 5: I wanted it to be the right opportunity. There were
- 20:55Speaker 5: some other opportunities that come along over the last couple
- 20:58Speaker 5: of years, things that somehow was excited to some I wasn't,
- 21:01Speaker 5: But this one, you know, it just really seemed like
- 21:03Speaker 5: the perfect fit for me, and to be with Mike,
- 21:06Speaker 5: the way we see ball, the way we you know,
- 21:08Speaker 5: interact with each other. And then you know, obviously this organization,
- 21:11Speaker 5: you know, even without the success that they had this
- 21:13Speaker 5: past year, like I knew that this was a great
- 21:16Speaker 5: building and great people and a great part of the
- 21:18Speaker 5: country to live, and so you know, everything just fell
- 21:20Speaker 5: into place.
- 21:21Speaker 6: Talk more in detail if you can, about what it
- 21:23Speaker 6: is about Mike McDonald and this current situation that you
- 21:26Speaker 6: found appealing enough to pack up and move.
- 21:29Speaker 5: Mike is obviously on the front end of what I
- 21:31Speaker 5: think is going to be a great career He's a
- 21:34Speaker 5: very intelligent, like well spoken leader of men and has
- 21:38Speaker 5: got this building pointed in the right direction. And so
- 21:41Speaker 5: I've been a part of rebuilds at other places and
- 21:43Speaker 5: they're stressful and like you know, sometimes you don't get
- 21:46Speaker 5: enough time.
- 21:46Speaker 2: To get it done.
- 21:47Speaker 5: And so for him to have already turned the corner
- 21:49Speaker 5: and like have this thing going the right way was
- 21:52Speaker 5: really really appealing. Obviously, it leaves some like very big
- 21:55Speaker 5: shoes to fill, and you know a lot of pressure
- 21:57Speaker 5: for the position that I'm stepping into. But that's a
- 21:59Speaker 5: challenge I'm excited about and ready to take on.
- 22:02Speaker 6: Yeah, well let's talk about that, because you mentioned the
- 22:04Speaker 6: shoes that you're filling. I mean, you can't get much
- 22:07Speaker 6: better than operating and running a Super Bowl champion offense
- 22:11Speaker 6: that finished top three in the NFL. Right, you know Clint,
- 22:15Speaker 6: you work with him and Sam obviously, so you could
- 22:18Speaker 6: answer this question better than anybody. How do you think
- 22:21Speaker 6: that you're kind of similar to Clint and maybe some
- 22:25Speaker 6: ways that you think you might be a little bit
- 22:26Speaker 6: different than him.
- 22:27Speaker 5: Clinton and I have similar backgrounds. There's going to be
- 22:30Speaker 5: a lot of continuity in just the foundation of the system.
- 22:33Speaker 5: So I think the players will enjoy that aspect of it.
- 22:36Speaker 5: I also think that, like you know, I'll be able
- 22:37Speaker 5: to challenge them in a little bit of a different way.
- 22:39Speaker 5: You know, the hard part in any job, like if
- 22:42Speaker 5: you're changing offenses, the first year is about building a foundation,
- 22:45Speaker 5: and then after that you can always experience continued growth
- 22:48Speaker 5: as guys have like more confidence and experience and reps
- 22:51Speaker 5: in what they're being asked to do. There's always room
- 22:53Speaker 5: for growth. And so really I'm just kind of stepping
- 22:56Speaker 5: in after Clint rate laid the groundwork and in a
- 23:00Speaker 5: lot of ways doing what I believe he would have
- 23:02Speaker 5: continued to do if you were here. Again, like schematically,
- 23:04Speaker 5: there might be some different elements things we were doing
- 23:06Speaker 5: in San Francisco that have evolved since he left. Right
- 23:09Speaker 5: then I'm excited to implement. But you know, I really
- 23:11Speaker 5: think that's where we're at.
- 23:12Speaker 6: Well, Brian Floory with us because of the continuity. How
- 23:17Speaker 6: much of a difference will this playbook look to the
- 23:20Speaker 6: players when you finally get it into their hands, You
- 23:23Speaker 6: know what.
- 23:23Speaker 5: That's a great question, and it's a process I'm working through. So,
- 23:26Speaker 5: like the formations are a little bit different than what
- 23:28Speaker 5: I was used to motions, play calls. Like the players
- 23:31Speaker 5: are the same but for some reason names changed. And
- 23:33Speaker 5: so that's something I'm evaluating every day in here is
- 23:36Speaker 5: like what am I willing to concede to put like
- 23:39Speaker 5: the hard work on myself and make this as easy
- 23:41Speaker 5: as possible for the players. And there's going to be
- 23:43Speaker 5: some non negotiables for me too, as somebody that has
- 23:46Speaker 5: to think and process and visualize and verbalize this to
- 23:49Speaker 5: the quarterback. You know, there might be some things that
- 23:52Speaker 5: I asked them to adjust to as well.
- 23:54Speaker 6: Right, Brian Florey with US new Seahawk offensive coordinator, you
- 23:58Speaker 6: mentioned communicating with the back, you know, Sam Darnold a
- 24:01Speaker 6: little bit. Talk about your relationship with him, and did
- 24:05Speaker 6: you two talk about this before you took this job.
- 24:08Speaker 5: My relationship with him, obviously we worked in the in
- 24:11Speaker 5: you know, the same building in San Francisco. I was
- 24:13Speaker 5: coaching the tight ends and coordinating the run game, and
- 24:15Speaker 5: so you know, we would have conversations from week to
- 24:18Speaker 5: week about certain run game stuff, and then there's always
- 24:20Speaker 5: the opportunity to have little side casual conversations and on
- 24:23Speaker 5: a personal level, and so we have a relationship, but
- 24:26Speaker 5: you know that's going to continue to grow and build
- 24:28Speaker 5: over time. So it's nice to have familiarity, but I
- 24:31Speaker 5: would say our relationship honestly is just you know, at
- 24:34Speaker 5: the beginning stages, and not that we don't know each other,
- 24:37Speaker 5: but like there's just so much more required of a
- 24:40Speaker 5: play caller and quarterback relationship that you know, we're going
- 24:43Speaker 5: to dive into here. I did have a chance to
- 24:45Speaker 5: talk to Sam, you know, prior to accepting the job,
- 24:48Speaker 5: and you know, just to make sure that he was
- 24:50Speaker 5: going to be comfortable with where I was coming from
- 24:52Speaker 5: and that you know, obviously have his best interest in mind.
- 24:55Speaker 5: So yeah, we did have a chance to talk.
- 24:57Speaker 6: Well, Brian Flory again with us New Sea IWK go see.
- 25:00Speaker 6: And I think anytime you hire a new offensive coordinator,
- 25:02Speaker 6: the first thing a lot of people do is go
- 25:04Speaker 6: back and look at their play calling history, right, and
- 25:07Speaker 6: this is your first time calling plays in the NFL.
- 25:10Speaker 1: And look, man, I'll be I'll be honest with you.
- 25:12Speaker 6: When I saw this, I did say on my show,
- 25:15Speaker 6: I'm curious how this goes for him as a first
- 25:18Speaker 6: time play caller with a team trying to win back
- 25:21Speaker 6: to back Super Bowls. So for those people out there
- 25:24Speaker 6: that might have questions about a first time play caller
- 25:27Speaker 6: taking this gig.
- 25:28Speaker 1: What would you say to them?
- 25:29Speaker 5: Let me save you sus suspense. They're soft Ye, I'm
- 25:31Speaker 5: going to make a bad play call at some point, Okay,
- 25:34Speaker 5: so like not everybody be ready and don't pound the
- 25:36Speaker 5: panic button if it happens. No, I've been preparing for
- 25:39Speaker 5: this for a long time. You know, the play calling
- 25:41Speaker 5: process on offense is really done way ahead of time.
- 25:44Speaker 5: All your preparation through the week about every situation that
- 25:46Speaker 5: could possibly come up. You're thinking of the plays within
- 25:48Speaker 5: the plan that you want to execute at that time.
- 25:51Speaker 5: And then so it's really just a matter of being
- 25:52Speaker 5: able to process the situation in real time and get
- 25:55Speaker 5: to the calls that you've already thought about and so
- 25:57Speaker 5: that that I'm very confident in and you know community
- 26:00Speaker 5: getting that to the quarterback. It's really just you know,
- 26:02Speaker 5: preparation and execution.
- 26:05Speaker 1: Brian Flory with our own David Softy Maler. If you
- 26:08Speaker 1: want to hear the entire interview, do so on their
- 26:11Speaker 1: podcast ninety three three KJR dot com. You can find it.
- 26:14Speaker 1: They talk about what Brian Floory is gonna do with
- 26:17Speaker 1: his forty nine er gear apparently left it on the
- 26:20Speaker 1: at the trash heap on the corner, which is funny.
- 26:25Speaker 1: That's hilarious. But I obviously get into a lot more.
- 26:28Speaker 1: But that was a good five minutes from that conversation
- 26:32Speaker 1: last night. I mean, he looks like a Viking, he
- 26:34Speaker 1: sounds like a professor. Pretty good combination. There's a lot
- 26:40Speaker 1: to be excited about here. Certainly, the unknown is that
- 26:43Speaker 1: he's never called plays before. And not only is it
- 26:47Speaker 1: just theorizing if you're John Schneider and Mike McDonald that
- 26:50Speaker 1: he seems like the guy that can do it. Until
- 26:53Speaker 1: you actually are making those calls in live game action,
- 26:57Speaker 1: you don't really know how how good he's going to
- 27:00Speaker 1: be at it. So it's a little bit of a
- 27:01Speaker 1: roll of the dice there. But I do like everything
- 27:04Speaker 1: that I'm hearing. I like that the offense is pretty similar.
- 27:07Speaker 1: His knowledge with Sam, personal history with Sam, his personal
- 27:11Speaker 1: history with Clint Kubiak. His The thing I like most
- 27:14Speaker 1: about that conversation is him saying, I'm going to do
- 27:17Speaker 1: all the work to make it easiest as possible for them,
- 27:21Speaker 1: and yet there are some aspects that I'm going to
- 27:24Speaker 1: hold firm on that are going to make sense for me.
- 27:26Speaker 1: That I'm going to ask them to adjust to. I
- 27:29Speaker 1: like the way that he said that, so, I mean,
- 27:31Speaker 1: in terms of getting an outsider, it sounds like this
- 27:35Speaker 1: is about the best outsider that you could have gotten
- 27:38Speaker 1: with the goal of keeping going the good things that
- 27:42Speaker 1: you have going right now.
- 27:43Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean I think the idea that I mean,
- 27:46Speaker 3: every single play caller had to have a first time
- 27:48Speaker 3: that they called place right. I mean, no matter how
- 27:50Speaker 3: great you could be, the greatest one of all time,
- 27:52Speaker 3: I mean Andy Reid, Mike Holmgren, they had a time
- 27:55Speaker 3: when they had their first time, and ultimately how much
- 28:00Speaker 3: how much you gleaned from sitting with that headset on
- 28:03Speaker 3: hearing someone else do it, going through the critical side
- 28:08Speaker 3: of judging yourselves as a coaching staff. You know that
- 28:12Speaker 3: in the week after performance right, I'm sure that Mike
- 28:15Speaker 3: Holmgren was in meetings afterwards saying, this was the wrong
- 28:19Speaker 3: play call that I made here, I should have called
- 28:21Speaker 3: this here. Well, if you're an assistant coach that someday
- 28:25Speaker 3: is going to be in charge of that, like Fleury is,
- 28:28Speaker 3: I think that there's times where you kind of mark
- 28:30Speaker 3: that down, like yep, even end game, all of a
- 28:32Speaker 3: sudden it's if the guy that you're listening to call
- 28:35Speaker 3: plays he goes back into maybe a tendency that he
- 28:39Speaker 3: has of going back to Christian McCaffery here, even when
- 28:42Speaker 3: it hadn't worked the last time, and yet they had
- 28:43Speaker 3: talked about I need to make an adjustment here, I
- 28:45Speaker 3: need to do this instead, and then they go back
- 28:47Speaker 3: that way.
- 28:48Speaker 2: You have mark those down. Those are mental notes that
- 28:50Speaker 2: he's gonna come in with.
- 28:51Speaker 1: Now.
- 28:51Speaker 3: The difference is you only have a certain amount of time,
- 28:54Speaker 3: and you're doing it based on exactly what happened to
- 28:56Speaker 3: play before and what's happened up to that point in
- 28:59Speaker 3: the game. And so yeah, there's a learning curve for sure,
- 29:01Speaker 3: and you're gonna have to figure out how well he
- 29:03Speaker 3: is at adjusting to that well.
- 29:05Speaker 1: I mean, really, at the end of the day, this
- 29:08Speaker 1: comes down to John Schneider is the hottest executive right
- 29:12Speaker 1: now in the National Football League. I mean, he's made
- 29:15Speaker 1: mistakes certainly in the past, but I think we've got
- 29:18Speaker 1: one of those executives that over ten years he's making
- 29:22Speaker 1: a lot more right choices than wrong choices. And over
- 29:25Speaker 1: the last three years he's been almost correct across the
- 29:29Speaker 1: board on the decisions that he's making and since Mike
- 29:33Speaker 1: McDonald came into town, I'm not sure the guy is
- 29:36Speaker 1: capable of.
- 29:36Speaker 2: Making a wrong decision.
- 29:38Speaker 1: So between the two of them, where they're at right
- 29:41Speaker 1: now as a team sort of in step with one another,
- 29:45Speaker 1: and you know, run a problem through the filter of
- 29:50Speaker 1: Schneider and McDonald, and I gotta believe you just got
- 29:53Speaker 1: to trust it right now that they know what they're
- 29:56Speaker 1: looking for and they got the right guy. So yes,
- 29:59Speaker 1: there is a little bit unknown. Certainly, you never do
- 30:02Speaker 1: want to lose your offensive coordinator after winning the Super Bowl,
- 30:06Speaker 1: but it's almost inevitable you're gonna lose one of your
- 30:09Speaker 1: coordinators after losing a Super Bowl. And I would just say, man,
- 30:14Speaker 1: how could you not trust the Schneider McDonald's team right
- 30:18Speaker 1: now that they got the right guy.
- 30:19Speaker 3: Similar to how we were talking about concerns with the Mariners.
- 30:22Speaker 3: I mean, there is a concern because you have a
- 30:24Speaker 3: new person coming in and it's a new person that's
- 30:26Speaker 3: never held this title and done this exact job before.
- 30:29Speaker 3: But is it worry I would say no, simply because
- 30:33Speaker 3: one your head coach obviously has proven in his short
- 30:38Speaker 3: two years at the Helm that he understands exactly what
- 30:41Speaker 3: it is that he wants right and when there is
- 30:43Speaker 3: a decision made With Ryan Grubb, initially he realized that
- 30:47Speaker 3: wasn't it, and the first opportunity he had to make adjustment.
- 30:50Speaker 2: He brought in a guy that helped lead him to
- 30:51Speaker 2: a super Bowl.
- 30:52Speaker 3: So I kind of feel like the trust factor you're
- 30:54Speaker 3: talking about, that's most certainly there, and I think most
- 30:57Speaker 3: people have it, and yet there's concern.
- 30:59Speaker 2: I think you just stops well short of worry.
- 31:02Speaker 1: And I think he's very likable. I think that the
- 31:04Speaker 1: forty nine Ers players liked him, which is another aspect
- 31:07Speaker 1: of it. He and George Kittle were pretty much thick
- 31:09Speaker 1: as thieves, old.
- 31:10Speaker 2: And the beard. I mean, usually people like those people.
- 31:14Speaker 1: I'll bet you Aj Barner's fired up to have them,
- 31:16Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much, all right, Coming up next
- 31:19Speaker 1: here on our program, speaking of the Seahawks, It's been
- 31:21Speaker 1: an interesting topic of conversation here with the players all
- 31:26Speaker 1: week long. I don't know if we've had it as
- 31:27Speaker 1: a show yet, but how much motivation or pressure have
- 31:32Speaker 1: the Seahawks provided for the Mariners in twenty twenty six.
- 31:35Speaker 1: We'll discuss as our spring training coverage continues on Sports
- 31:38Speaker 1: Radio ninety three point three KJRFM nine o'clock hour coming
- 31:51Speaker 1: your way, final hour of our week here at Mariners
- 31:54Speaker 1: spring training. Another beautiful day out here in Peoria. Sorry
- 31:59Speaker 1: but that sorry of that is sign I.
- 32:01Speaker 4: Think it's up to twenty eight degrees here.
- 32:02Speaker 1: Now call me, oh boy, former Mariner Bucky Jacobson here.
- 32:07Speaker 1: My name is such Chuck Powell.
- 32:08Speaker 5: We do it.
- 32:09Speaker 1: We missed headlines earlier.
- 32:10Speaker 2: I do want to do them.
- 32:11Speaker 1: So we're going to do that coming up here at
- 32:13Speaker 1: nine o'clock, including some updated information from Justin Holland or
- 32:17Speaker 1: our conversation with him from seven o'clock today, which was fantastic,
- 32:22Speaker 1: all sorts of information packed into that conversation, and of
- 32:26Speaker 1: course make sure you download the iHeart app and you
- 32:30Speaker 1: can also go to our show podcast at ninety three
- 32:34Speaker 1: to three KJR dot com to get anything you missed
- 32:37Speaker 1: from Seahawks excuse me, Mariners spring training coverage. I got
- 32:41Speaker 1: a little ahead of myself because I wanted to talk
- 32:43Speaker 1: Seahawks versus Mariners, if you will in this segment. It
- 32:48Speaker 1: has been something that we brought up to a lot
- 32:50Speaker 1: of our Mariner guests that we've had on this week,
- 32:54Speaker 1: is what did the Seahawks World championship do to potentially
- 32:59Speaker 1: motivate you or possibly, you know, put more pressure on
- 33:03Speaker 1: you as you get ready to start a twenty twenty
- 33:05Speaker 1: six season where a lot of people think you are
- 33:08Speaker 1: a strong World Series contender, including us. And look, I
- 33:12Speaker 1: mean the people that we asked, I mean, who knows.
- 33:14Speaker 1: Maybe they didn't watch the Seahawks voyage at all. I mean,
- 33:17Speaker 1: they probably grew up being fans of other NFL teams
- 33:21Speaker 1: and aren't going to let that go just because they
- 33:24Speaker 1: wear a Seattle uniform across their own chest. Who knows,
- 33:29Speaker 1: but Bucky, It's really hard for me to believe that,
- 33:33Speaker 1: considering how close they got to the World Series a
- 33:35Speaker 1: year ago, and how some of the players got really
- 33:39Speaker 1: invested in the Seahawks to the degree that a group
- 33:42Speaker 1: of them went to the Super Bowl itself and watched
- 33:46Speaker 1: them win the title, and then they had to at
- 33:50Speaker 1: least get clips of what they saw at that parade
- 33:54Speaker 1: that Wednesday morning into afternoon. That was just un believable
- 34:01Speaker 1: to behold. It's hard for me to believe that it
- 34:04Speaker 1: didn't provide some source of motivation for this team that, man,
- 34:09Speaker 1: this could be a magical year.
- 34:11Speaker 3: We gotta do that, right, I think the I mean,
- 34:15Speaker 3: you know, the twelves and the lure that is, the
- 34:20Speaker 3: lore that is the twelves, and the noise at loom
- 34:22Speaker 3: And Field we got to see it's mostly the same
- 34:26Speaker 3: people that were Rock and T Mobile Park throughout the
- 34:29Speaker 3: playoffs and better part of the majority of last season.
- 34:33Speaker 3: And so I know for a fact we've heard it
- 34:35Speaker 3: straight from the horse's mouth from a few of these
- 34:38Speaker 3: different players that they leading up to it. I mean,
- 34:41Speaker 3: how many times did you hear them say, keep coming out, guys,
- 34:44Speaker 3: it matters. We love playing for you guys. There was
- 34:47Speaker 3: a connection between the fans and so I think that
- 34:49Speaker 3: that's kind of them wanting to feel what it is
- 34:53Speaker 3: that they were feeling leading up to the playoffs, and
- 34:55Speaker 3: then they got to feel it. And then if you're
- 34:58Speaker 3: invested in this team, if you're somebody that you know
- 35:00Speaker 3: you're you're on this squad, you're not fighting for a spot.
- 35:03Speaker 3: The cal Rawleys of Brian who those guys that went
- 35:05Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl, they basically are like, well, let's yeah,
- 35:09Speaker 3: I most certainly want to do that all the way
- 35:12Speaker 3: down to the parade part of it. I think that
- 35:14Speaker 3: there's it's you can still have your your rooting interest
- 35:18Speaker 3: for another team that you grew up rooting for, but
- 35:21Speaker 3: it would be silly to not buy into the city
- 35:24Speaker 3: and the fan base that is cheering for you. That's
- 35:26Speaker 3: the fan base that's supporting you. So I think that
- 35:29Speaker 3: they've done it one hundred percent. I don't know if
- 35:31Speaker 3: it necessarily feels like more pressure. I think their pressure
- 35:34Speaker 3: is the pressure is self imposed by them. You get
- 35:37Speaker 3: that close to being in the World Series and being
- 35:39Speaker 3: the first ever Mariners team to do it. It didn't
- 35:42Speaker 3: matter if the Seahawks won the Super Bowl, went deep
- 35:44Speaker 3: into the playoffs, didn't make the playoffs, they would still
- 35:47Speaker 3: have the exact same feeling of anything short of getting
- 35:50Speaker 3: to the World Series. And once you're there, you're not
- 35:53Speaker 3: wanting to come up, you know, short on that one either.
- 35:55Speaker 3: So I don't think there's any added pressure personally.
- 35:57Speaker 1: I mean maybe there were people and then the organization.
- 35:59Speaker 1: I've been here a long time that sort of like cringe, like, ah,
- 36:03Speaker 1: we wanted to be that. We feel like we were
- 36:06Speaker 1: gonna be the championship team. They could have gone after us.
- 36:09Speaker 4: Why did they have to go before?
- 36:11Speaker 1: Maybe, but these you know, twenty to thirty three year
- 36:14Speaker 1: old baseball players. They don't carry that history, They don't
- 36:19Speaker 1: carry that weight where the organization has been in the
- 36:22Speaker 1: Seahawks shadow championship wise here for the last fifteen years.
- 36:27Speaker 1: They don't carry that at all. I think it's nothing
- 36:30Speaker 1: but a pure adrenaline, you know, shoot it into my veins,
- 36:35Speaker 1: extra motivation for them to get it done this year,
- 36:38Speaker 1: to have that response, because in baseball it's different. It's
- 36:41Speaker 1: every single night, you know pretty much that you get
- 36:45Speaker 1: to create that pandemonium on the streets of Seattle, and
- 36:48Speaker 1: they got a taste of it a year ago. And
- 36:50Speaker 1: to see their football brethren get it done, you know,
- 36:54Speaker 1: right before they start the season, I think it's only
- 36:58Speaker 1: I think it's only liquid encouragement. Frankly that the Seahawks
- 37:03Speaker 1: championship run lent to this team that really didn't need
- 37:07Speaker 1: any extra motivation. They're know, they're World Series contenders. But
- 37:10Speaker 1: I think seeing the way that this city just you know,
- 37:14Speaker 1: the way a championship run can be completed.
- 37:17Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I.
- 37:18Speaker 1: Mean there were coaches that go through. Mike McDonald went
- 37:21Speaker 1: through a championship like parade sort of set up Doc Rivers.
- 37:27Speaker 1: This is famous. He actually took Boston Celtics players on
- 37:31Speaker 1: their championship route before the season had even started. He
- 37:35Speaker 1: took them on a duck boat and went on the
- 37:37Speaker 1: championship route with Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce and Ray
- 37:41Speaker 1: Allen and the players, just so they could envision but
- 37:45Speaker 1: what we're gonna do at the end of the year,
- 37:48Speaker 1: and then lo and behold, they ended up actually doing it,
- 37:52Speaker 1: actually riding the same duck boats with millions of Bostonians
- 37:56Speaker 1: screaming their names. So the Seahawks have provided that for
- 38:01Speaker 1: the Mariners. And if they were a bad team or
- 38:03Speaker 1: a mediocre team, maybe it doesn't have an impact. But
- 38:06Speaker 1: the fact that they were a very good, maybe even
- 38:08Speaker 1: great team this year, I think maybe it could have
- 38:11Speaker 1: an impact.
- 38:12Speaker 3: There's not a Seattle Mariner that's out there. I mean,
- 38:15Speaker 3: even if it's a new guy, you know, Brendan Donovan
- 38:17Speaker 3: that didn't watch the Seattle Seahawks parade and think that
- 38:22Speaker 3: could be us. That could be us in the end
- 38:25Speaker 3: of October or November whatever, that that's where we're planning
- 38:28Speaker 3: on being. They're envisioning it. You're right, I don't think it.
- 38:31Speaker 3: I don't think it adds pressure. I think it's just motivation.
- 38:33Speaker 3: I think that this is a team that believes. You know,
- 38:37Speaker 3: we talked to cal Rawley and he says, we don't
- 38:39Speaker 3: have to be scared about saying our goal is to
- 38:42Speaker 3: win the World Series. I mean this, there's still most
- 38:45Speaker 3: of the people out there on that field right now.
- 38:47Speaker 3: They remember twenty twenty three Cow's home run that broke
- 38:51Speaker 3: the playoff drought. So then last year was okay, it's
- 38:54Speaker 3: not about just making the playoffs. It's about winning the
- 38:56Speaker 3: division and it's about going deep into the playoffs, and
- 38:58Speaker 3: you know what, why don't we win the whole f
- 39:01Speaker 3: and thing? And then they came up just a little
- 39:03Speaker 3: bit short of getting there. There's nowhere to go but
- 39:06Speaker 3: up for this team as far as what their goals are,
- 39:08Speaker 3: and I think that, if anything, it's just a little
- 39:10Speaker 3: bit extra motivation. I don't think there's any pressure involved.
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