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"Inflection Point USA" (Thursday September 11, 2025, Hour 2) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is that America eleven trying to call We have.
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Speaker 2: Come playing back Bay White.
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Speaker 3: I'll be okay, we're.
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Speaker 4: Running to their board, but we have everyone to stap.
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Speaker 5: They're in the back of the air playing they're not
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the hijacker here in.
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Speaker 6: The paying today by Joe Thomas on the Talking Media Network.
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Speaker 1: I know you.
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Speaker 7: Not to.
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Speaker 8: Out with what's there. We've got to get signed for
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the JOS.
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Speaker 9: Terrorism then and now let's go and it's that's.
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Speaker 10: What it is.
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Speaker 5: Terrorism.
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Speaker 11: Okay, we did what connection.
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Speaker 9: This is CNN breaking news.
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Speaker 1: This justin.
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Speaker 3: You were looking at obviously a very disturbing liveshot there
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that is the World Trade Center, and we have unconfirmed
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reports this morning that a plane has crashed into one
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of the towers of the World Trade Center.
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Speaker 9: I asked you this yesterday in the in the world
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of posts, crossfire, hurricane September eleventh becomes difficult. And then
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another terrorist climbed under the roof of Utah Valley University
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and again tried to make us change who we are
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to be more like them four three four eight eight
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two four two one seven launch to get into this morning,
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Clark was hanging on the line with us. I ramped
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to the end. There We've got other folks joining in
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on the line. I'm going to get our first things
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out here. Let me see who's else's online. Two here,
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good morning, who's their? This is Big John? Hey, Big John.
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I got folks ahead of you. Say hang on, okay, okay,
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all right, there we go. See. That's how manners work
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in the world. That's how you do it. But first things,
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because we need to know what's going on in the
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world around us. Our first things this morning, obviously, the
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story out of Utah Valley University dominates the first things
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this morning and reaction to it from the Oval Office.
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The assassination of Charlie.
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Speaker 6: Grad Fellow Americans.
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Speaker 12: I'm filled with grief and anger at the heinous assassination
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of Charlie kirk Or a college campus in Utah. Charlie
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inspired millions, and tonight all who knew him and loved
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him are united in shock andha Charlie was a patriot
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who devoted his life to the cause of open debate
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and the country that he loved so much in the
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United States of America.
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Speaker 9: Today is the twenty fourth anniversary of the September eleventh,
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two thousand and one terrorist attacks in New York and
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Washington and in Shanksville, Pennsylvania. According to the Mirglancalan An
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Associate's poll of one thousand likely voters in nationwide, eighty
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three percent of Americans believed that every school in America
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should be required to teach students about the September eleventh attacks,
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specifically identifying the perpetrators as Islamic terrorists. And Poland's government
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has called for an article for convention, that is a
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NATO bylaw that requires all nations to convene. They say
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their airspace was violated by a fleet of Russian drones,
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and those are our first things. This September eleventh morning,
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we got Big John on hold, we've got doctor Clark
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with a thought. And again I filibustered your thought when
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you called in doctor Clark at four three four eight
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A two or two one seven and everyone, everyone join in.
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We've got phones for you all morning, four hours. You'd think, uh,
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at some point I'd get tired of hearing myself. So anyway,
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doctor Clark, what was on your mind?
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Speaker 5: Sir Joe?
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Speaker 13: Do you think the person that acted yesterday.
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Speaker 5: Was influenced a little or a lot by the rhetoric's
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few to the mainstream media.
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Speaker 9: Well, you know, until they find him, because there was
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a reasonable thought brought to my attention that Charlie also
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had detractors amongst conservatives. So I don't know because of
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what happened to me in the months leading up to
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August twelfth, twenty seventeen, something or other color Big John
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can speak testimonially too as well, because what happened to
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me in the face of people who purported to be
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conservative and by conservative they mean white supremacist, racist and
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wanted to drag me into their mad dimension. If I
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may use the phrase, I'm going to withhold until Cash
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Patel and the FBI brings this guy in. I hope
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that he has not as Rush Limball once he used
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the phrase assumed room temperature somewhere in the woods of
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Utah and we actually get a chance to find out
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more about what this cat was all about. But I
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still want to know, and I don't know if it's
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unfair to say, how does he get on the roof?
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Are these are these doors to the roof and the
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roof where he was is not like there was a
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pavilion or a patio or a meeting space or a
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coffee shop there. It's just air conditioning ducks. Why can
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somebody just open the door or to a roof and
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get up.
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Speaker 5: There till by experience.
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Speaker 9: You give somebody enough time, they'll figure something out.
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Speaker 14: I guess so one minute left, sir, go ahead, Well,
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we'll arrest people for possession of child pornography because child phnography,
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when you just boil right down to it, is horribly
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damaging to our society. We need to accept the fact
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that a lot of what is fuwed in the mainstream
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media is just as harmful to our society.
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Speaker 5: We have freedom of the press, I get that.
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Speaker 14: But when you're telling people that somebody's just like Hitler.
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Speaker 15: And giving them license to go kill Hitler, maybe we
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need to rethink that rhetoric.
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Speaker 9: Well, I think it falls under the category of yelling
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fire in a crowded theater, doctor Clark, But break is approaching.
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Speaker 9: Darkness cannot drive out darkness. Only light can do that.
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Hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a
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night already devoid of stars. Another man who is the
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victim of political assassination, Abraham Lincoln. A piece I'm in
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the midst of writing for the Daily Signal begins with
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the phrase Jefferson lives, and I'll explain more. We've got
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lots of folks lining up on the phone at four
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three four eight eight two four two one seven. I
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want to get to Big John. He's been hanging on
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the longest, but let me get you in the queue.
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Good morning, who's this.
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Speaker 15: Jan Ya Kellek? But the Epoch Times, Hi.
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Speaker 9: John, hang on a second here, I've got the obviously
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this morning very busy time hang on the line one moment, sir. Yeah,
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I'm and Big John is, So what's on your mind?
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Speaker 5: Sir?
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Speaker 1: Well, you know the elephant in the room. Both you
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and I have witnessed the political violence engendered by those
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who disagree with us, the lack of civility on the
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part of those who oppose us.
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Speaker 9: It is true.
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Speaker 1: I tell you that I saw that. And the first
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thing I did was I texted you and said, now
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you know why I carry or something to that effect.
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I have been personally threatened with political violence over political
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stances I have publicly taken. I have gone to court, etc.
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Right now, there exist in our country a snake in
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the political system, funded by people like mister Sorows and
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his minions, who using these hapless fools who act without reason,
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have engendered such actions as the grievous murder took place yesterday, terrorism,
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domestic terrors, and yes, political violence. And Joe, you know,
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I'm just not going to take it anymore. You know,
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I've kind of laid back recently. I've rejoined the local
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GOP committee and I'm working with people in the local
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community on local politics. But I see this happening on
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a national scale. You know, and it takes me back
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when Wow, the riot in Charlottesville.
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Speaker 9: I agree, I agree, and and it's you know, and
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there were four sides in that. I mean, there was
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you and me and the folks who were just out
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there for free speech and an honest telling of history,
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and we had been catfished by David Duke and the
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Knights in Wya Satin. And then there was Black Lives Matter,
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and then there was Antifa, who was behaving like fascists
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and all irony. And it flash pointed, and it flashpointed
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because politicians were using it for their own gain. And
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we have dead state troopers in Virginia from August twelve,
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twenty seventeen. And as I said about an hour ago,
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it struck by the same feelings I had at five
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oho five am Eastern time on August fourteenth. What do
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I say, how do we begin the day? How do
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I help people who are feeling like you are make
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the right choices, not the wrong ones, not react to
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the terrorists. And I know you're a savvy man, and
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you have done your time in our service of our country.
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You understand what I'm talking about. When people are trying
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to use the hockey analogy, goons trying to get us
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to drop the gloves. Terrorists try to make us like
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them and give up who we are. That's what they
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did twenty four years ago. They tried to make us
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stop being like us and be more like them because
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they hate us. And like I said to me, and
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you tell me, the biggest come up ince for these
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people is going to be the moment when Winsome, Earl
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Sears and John Reid and Jason Miaris are sworn And
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I hate to make it about elected office, but that's
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what they're making it about. They're making it about controlling
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political offices and controlling the speech. If Jack Cheddarelli gets
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sworn in in New Jersey, if Curtis Slee was sworn
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in in New York, this would be their comeuppance. Am
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I wrong to push back against the idea of we
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need to fight their violence with more violence.
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Speaker 1: I think what we need to do is to fight
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their violence with more speech.
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Speaker 5: Amen.
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Speaker 1: And to that end, I'm going to do. I'm going
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to take a page from our late friend's book and
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I'm going to act on it. I'm going to go
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to a campus and I briefly alluded to that with you.
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I'm making arrangements now that when I have to be
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in Charlottesville, I'm going to go to a campus and
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try to engage in polite political discourse. What happened to
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the days when my mother and her friend Jane would
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go grocery shopping together and they'd be arguing about burry
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goldwater in the line, and then in the next sentence,
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And two minutes earlier they were arguing at what a
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wing nut goldwater was?
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Speaker 9: I know, I know, we can't do it. And it's
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my business too. It's my business. How do I make
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a living? How do I get advertisers on a radio station?
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If people are like, oh, you're on that horrible you know?
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And and and if the rhetoric is there, you have
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to unring bells. And that's the thing. Let me get
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to Jan from Epic Times here Charlie to Charlie. He
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fought Charlie for us, Big John. I appreciate it, sir, Yes, well, Joe,
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keep fighting the good fight. Amen, amen.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 9: Let me get to uh Jan and these folks calling
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in here. We've got folks all over the place. Good morning,
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You're you're on the air with Good Morning. You're on
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the air with Joe. Who's this?
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Speaker 5: Hey Joe, it's Tom Uh you know, mister conspiracy from Sebastian, Florida.
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Speaker 9: Yes, Tom, can you hang on? I've got a caller
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just ahead of you? Okay, no problem? All right, Thanks,
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I appreciate it. And uh uh Jan Jaco is on
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the phone with us from uh from the Epic Times
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this morning, and uh Jan, thank you for joining us.
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As you can imagine, it's a it's a busy day
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there and so I hope you can understand. What are
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your thoughts on the assassination.
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Speaker 5: Of Charlie Kirk? First of all, Joe, how are you
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hang on?
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Speaker 9: A second?
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Speaker 19: Here?
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Speaker 9: That was Tom Still Jan, thank you for hanging on
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the line with us. Obviously a crazy couple of hours
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since the assassination of Charlie Kirk from from your news
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desk at the Epic Times. What what were your thoughts
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and what are you working on for that right now?
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Speaker 15: Well, first of all, I mean it's kind of all
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shocking and surreal moment. I almost feel like it's kind
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of an inflection point of sorts. And this is something
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like I've seen this idea echoed kind of all over
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the place among friends of mine and so forth, because
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I mean, for all attents and purposes, this looks like
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Speaker 9: Today Johnny Us and we were talking Johan jelly Nick
28:23
from the Epic Times on with us this morning. Jackie,
28:28
like Johan, I appreciate you hanging on, and I want
28:32
to get back into the subject of political assassination. But
28:35
one of the things as an abstract, something that Charlie
28:38
talked about quite frequently as well, is the normalization of crazy.
28:44
It's the Overton window. It's the the dragging the conversation
28:48
into places where you know, ten years ago, you know,
28:53
Title nine was the rule of the land, and the
28:56
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29:00
drag people through the Overton window, and what was crazy
29:03
becomes discussed. What's discussed becomes considered. What's becomes considered then
29:08
becomes policy and and and and that's where I feel
29:12
like some of what we are seeing is this reaction
29:16
to pushing back and trying to drag people away from
29:20
this this anarchy. Almost am I overstating. I think there's
29:30
perful forces.
29:31
Speaker 15: I think you're I think you're you're hitting the knee
29:33
on the head that there's powerful forces that want to
29:35
push us in that direction. This is again something I mean,
29:38
I why I think this is an inflection point. I
29:41
think the idea of that Charlie stood behind is so powerful. Okay,
29:47
the idea is, well, there's there's there's a very important
29:50
faith element. I mean that is all yeah, okay, So
29:53
because he you know, he was a very faithful person.
29:56
He believed and lived that faith, and he was a
30:00
apologetically going into the places where where people were you know,
30:05
even even aggressively disliking it or wishing to fight it,
30:11
to basically have that message heard. And again those I
30:14
view that as the as the attempt is the right way,
30:17
as the right way to do it right, because if
30:19
you're if you are, as you pointed out the Overton
30:23
window on a whole lot of ideas that's shifted into
30:25
a in some cases, you know, a whole lot of
30:28
very crazy ideas. And whereas as a as a species,
30:31
you know, we're kind of we're mimetic, you know, we
30:34
kind of we we latch onto ideas we like sometimes
30:37
just because people around us have certain ideas, we get
30:39
influenced by that. So we it's a and especially in
30:43
this world of social media and these powerful messaging apparatuses
30:47
that exist, you know. So this is this is, this
30:49
is a fraught, new, brave, new world.
30:51
Speaker 7: Right.
30:52
Speaker 15: I'm I'm of the school, and this is why I
30:54
think Charlie's example, like you know, his his whole ethos
30:57
who he was is going to live on this. This
31:00
is my hope, okay, because it was precisely these that
31:04
my ideas are good. And I think if I take
31:08
my ideas even to places where people have gone a
31:11
little bit crazy or are they're they're not actually bad people,
31:16
you know. And I think he said that there's there's
31:18
I can even perhaps even on my show, he said
31:20
that right that these are not even this isn't bad people.
31:24
This is we need to be able to have this
31:27
conversation in order to have a healthy and flourishing society.
31:30
And that idea, I think is the one that should
31:32
drive us forward. So so to me, he exemplifies this
31:36
kind of I don't know, I guess a movement for that,
31:40
and I hope that that's the lesson that that we
31:43
can take from that. I think everybody should you know,
31:45
left right whatever, this is, this is the right, this
31:47
is the right way.
31:48
Speaker 9: Well yeah, and I'm writing a column myself for the
31:52
Daily Signal talking about things that live on beyond uh.
31:56
The opening line is Jefferson lives, which is apocryphally what
32:00
John Adams said on his deathbed, and that you know,
32:03
even though hours later Jefferson had passed away, the document
32:07
he wrote two hundred and fifty years ago still lives.
32:10
And that's important. And I think you talk about what
32:13
he Charlie created with Turning Point USA, really is if
32:17
there's a reason the Marxist the totalitarians feared him was
32:22
looking at this group that they had invested so much
32:25
time and so much money into indoctrinating, dropping them like
32:31
a hot potato, that the first inkling that there was
32:35
a different idea and a different thought, and I think
32:38
that was what really infuriated their inflection point and your
32:44
thought on that. But also as we and I don't disagree,
32:47
we're at an inflection point because of this, but what
32:51
we allow that inflection point to be is important. Yeh,
32:54
don't you agree.
32:56
Speaker 5: One hundred percent?
32:57
Speaker 1: And this is the thing.
32:58
Speaker 15: So one of the very dangerous ideas I think that
33:01
we have to educate against right and this is incredibly important.
33:05
We have to break this idea out is that words
33:07
are violence.
33:08
Speaker 5: Words are not violence.
33:10
Speaker 15: Okay, words are the route to communication. This is actually
33:14
how we don't do violence, by the way, you know,
33:16
this is this is this incredible innovation right of humanity.
33:21
Speaker 9: Right is that we can.
33:23
Speaker 15: Solve our problems without clubbing each other over the head.
33:26
We can actually discuss it. Right, So again, you want
33:29
to talk about you know, the most you know, beautiful
33:32
powerful legacy you can imagine, right if you so?
33:35
Speaker 5: Here's that This is the question.
33:37
Speaker 15: You know, my friend James Lindsay posted something yesterday and
33:41
I wrote I wrote back to him and I said,
33:43
you you basically nailed it right. Basically we can have
33:46
he said, we can have Catharsis or civilization. This is
33:50
kind of the this is kind of the question. I
33:52
feel like this is kind of this inflection point where
33:54
we kind of have to decide what does he mean
33:57
by that? Right, we can let our emotions go what
34:00
we're doing, and of course there's while a wild level
34:02
of emotion and rightfully so, right when there's something as
34:06
horrible as this happens, the question, you know, but actually
34:10
doing the civilization thing is being able to tame that
34:12
emotion and think strategically and you know, basically in this
34:19
particular instance, do the thing take the approach that Charlie
34:24
Kirk took right in solving the problem right. And this
34:29
is again you were making this you know question, You
34:31
asked this question whether there's this is a comparison to
34:34
Kirk fair and not pardon me, not to Kirk, to
34:37
Mlka Fair. I think in this respect it is fair
34:41
because basically his route was, first of all, don't treat
34:45
the person on the other side as an enemy, okay,
34:48
because they're not in most cases. And the second thing is,
34:52
you know, basically ready yourself to talk to them and
34:56
hold firm to your.
34:57
Speaker 9: Truth exactly and not be afraid the discussion. If somebody says,
35:02
I think we should go tax all the rich people
35:04
to give poor people money, I can debate that point.
35:08
And Charlie debated that point and it was amazing to
35:12
watch and it was in the midst of what he
35:14
was doing.
35:14
Speaker 5: There.
35:15
Speaker 9: Last question for you, young and I appreciate it. Epic
35:17
Times dot com. Today is the twenty fourth anniversary of
35:22
another instance where terrorists wanted to try to make us
35:25
change who we are to react to them, to drop
35:31
the gloves. As I said, you know, when the goon
35:33
hits you in the corner, when your best scorer gets
35:36
hit by the goon, if they drop their gloves, they're
35:38
off the ice for five minutes. Do you think there
35:42
was an intent or was this just something of opportunity. Obviously,
35:46
with the manhunt still going on for this missailant, this murderer.
35:52
Speaker 15: It's hard for me to comment without having further information.
35:55
I did hear John Solomon has reported, and John has been,
35:59
you know, one of the most solid, solid reporters. You know,
36:02
he was one of the chas people there on Russia
36:04
Gate with us back in the day. Right, Uh, there's
36:09
there is a foreign element. I mean, it's it's possible.
36:12
I've had I've had all sorts of ideas, right, But
36:14
I don't like to speculate on things like this because
36:18
you know, it's just such a charged fraut reality. I'd
36:21
rather actually know the details before I before.
36:24
Speaker 9: That's fairly said. That is fairly said, is just a question.
36:28
Speaker 15: The website is the Epoch Times dot com.
36:31
Speaker 9: Did I make I'm sorry, you know what, and the
36:33
last time you were on I did the same thing.
36:35
You know, I'm consistent at least I make the same
36:37
mistake over and over again. Yeah, thank you, sir, You
36:40
have a great morning, and thank you for joining us.
36:43
Speaker 5: Thank you so much.
36:45
Speaker 9: Let me get Tom in here from Florida patiently hanging
36:49
on hold with us. Tom, thank you for hanging on
36:51
the line. What's on your mind, sir?
36:55
Speaker 5: Well, Joe, the reason I was asking your age is
36:57
because you seem like you're close to me. I'm sixty two.
37:00
Speaker 9: That's exactly what I am. As a matter of fact,
37:02
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37:09
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37:20
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37:24
two days ago, my niece's husband. It's something awful to
37:29
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37:44
am so sorry. Yeah, I mean the.
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Speaker 9: God bless you for being on the receiving end and
44:24
obviously yesterday's terrorist attacks and the twenty fourth anniversary of
44:29
two thousand and one's terrorist attacks, and what are they attacking?
44:34
Tom was hanging on line and Tom, you just my
44:38
heart breaks, but you were saying, you like I have
44:42
had interacted with Charlie Kirk.
44:46
Speaker 5: I know Joe, and you know I met that kid
44:49
and that he was the most one of the most
44:51
impressive young men I've ever met in my life. His
44:54
courage is charisma. I mean, the passion that kid had, Arlie.
45:00
Speaker 9: You know Charlie and I am.
45:01
Speaker 5: Really really really peeled right now.
45:05
Speaker 9: What is so Jan was talking about inflection points. My
45:08
son who's thirty one, was talking about inflection points, and
45:12
I think I don't deny that they're there. But is
45:15
the point though that how what kind of inflection we
45:19
let that become. Do we become like the goons who
45:23
want us to get into a bar brawl with them,
45:25
or do we continue what Charlie was doing, which is saying, hey,
45:29
you want to tax everyone and give the money to
45:32
the poor. Okay, let's debate how that's going to work.
45:34
Or you think that you have a right to a
45:37
house or groceries or an income and let's let's gameplay
45:41
this out. Charlie was never afraid of that debate. I'd
45:43
like to think I'm not either. Your thought on what
45:48
kind of inflection point this is? Tom?
45:52
Speaker 5: Well, you know, Joe, I do believe in God and
45:57
I always have. But let me tell you something. It's
46:00
tough to fight the hate because another point about right now,
46:07
nine to eleven. Yeah, my nationality is Lebanese, Syrian, Swedish
46:13
and Scottish. I'm half of both. Hello, Coombo, I know,
46:17
but once that happened on nine to eleven, people slam
46:22
doors in my face, called me a sand you know,
46:25
the black malt. Yeah, yeah, you know something. I'm an
46:29
American period. Yeah. I love this country, not Syria, not Elebanon,
46:36
not Sweden or Scotland. You know what is going on, Joe?
46:41
When we were growing up, what the hell happen to
46:43
our country? Well?
46:45
Speaker 9: I think the elements of division. If you read Marx,
46:48
Marx talks about class warfare, but in America, they had
46:52
to amend that and make it racial warfare. They had
46:56
to make the division something that they could work on.
46:59
This is about authoritarianism, This is about us willingly giving
47:03
up our liberties, willingly voting the Bill of Rights out
47:08
of existence so that we can have an authoritarian state
47:12
to quote keep us safe, to end the violence this
47:16
bye bye?
47:17
Speaker 5: Hell? Are we going to stop this by doing what we're.
47:21
Speaker 9: Doing, Tom, bye bye? By exposing it, by dragging it
47:24
into the sunlight. And that's the that's the thing King wanted. That,
47:30
that's surely the thing Charlie Kirk wanted. It's what I
47:32
want every morning, is to shine the clear lamp of
47:36
sunlight on it and to to to make everyone see
47:40
the ugliness that the deceiver is trying to sneak through
47:44
the door under a velvet sheet.
47:48
Speaker 5: But you know something, Joe, I just qute my wife
47:50
on a plane. She wants to go to her daughter's
47:53
for her birthday. Uh huh. And and I don't even
47:56
know if the woman's gonna make it there, you know anymore,
48:00
I'm tired of looking over my shoulder.
48:02
Speaker 9: Well, here's this is going to sound very nihilist of me, Tom,
48:05
And I'm going to be very careful with this. This
48:08
is how I live every day. I know I'm going
48:10
to die at some point, and that isn't that?
48:13
Speaker 29: Is it?
48:13
Speaker 9: Well, it's a hard thing. And this is a Christian
48:16
belief that you know, I have faith and how I've
48:19
lived and how I believe and what I've done, so
48:23
I don't fear it. I don't want it to happen
48:25
today because I still have work to do. But if
48:28
my work, if God decides my work is done, he
48:31
gets to decide that I don't, you know. And so
48:35
I don't fear the unknown. I I live every moment
48:40
as it happens with the intent that I can. And
48:43
I again, I don't. I would never portend to be
48:46
Sunrise sermonette. I have many friends who are ministers who
48:49
could do a better job with us than I can.
48:51
But if you take nothing else from it, take take
48:53
the belief that don't fear the unknown. Live every life,
48:58
because the fear of the unknown makes you stop living
49:00
life to its fullest. And that's where the record comes from.
49:05
Speaker 5: I won't let that happen, Brother Joe. Here's my little conspiracy.
49:11
I don't believe that Charlie Kirk was killed by some
49:13
random person. No, I'm a good mark and a shot
49:18
at two hundred yards is a tough shot unless you're
49:21
a very good marksman. I don't believe I think somebody
49:27
did this because Charlie was taking over schools and getting
49:32
a liberal crap out and bringing intelligence conservatism in, and
49:37
he was powerful, and he was getting more powerful, and
49:40
they had to take him down. That's what I believe.
49:43
Speaker 9: Well, let's prove to let's prove to them that martyrdom
49:47
is the worst thing you can do to somebody you oppose,
49:51
because I think this is going to make his movement
49:54
even stronger. It's my prayer that it is. Anyway, the
49:57
sunlight that he wanted.
49:58
Speaker 5: Tom.
49:58
Speaker 9: You have a great morning, sir, God bless you all right.
50:01
Speaker 5: Brother, he talked, I'll talk you later.
50:02
Speaker 9: By three four eight eight two four two one seven.
50:07
Your reaction the assassination of Charlie Kirk and very much
50:11
like September eleventh, two thousand and one, live on our
50:16
screens in two thousand and one, they had to get
50:19
the TV cameras all pointing at the World Trade Center.
50:22
So we're all watching live as the second plane hit,
50:26
terrorizing us, using the very things that we held dear
50:30
in our society against us, weaponizing it against us. So
50:34
what the terrorists do? Joel writes into four three four
50:39
eight eight two four two one seven because you get
50:41
to text messaging as well. My heart is heavy and sad.
50:44
You're always on point. Thank you. We can never let
50:48
time cover nine to eleven oh one and the assassination
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of Charlie Kirk and his belief in Jesus, the foundation
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of Judeo Christian beliefs can't be muddled with hate or revenge,
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as you said, but the quest for justice comes through
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our belief and God and truth, which eventually comes through
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to fruition. Charlie Kirk lived life with God's values. And
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the point I was making to Tom not to be misunderstood,
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is I live every minute as if it could be
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my last. And I believe, having met Charlie Kirk several times,
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I believe that that's how Charlie lived.
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Speaker 5: As well.
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Speaker 9: Is I don't want to leave any of my chips unplayed.
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I don't want to waste a minute. We talked yesterday
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about sloth, and that is one of the vices that's
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strongest in my weakness. It's the strongest of my weaknesses,
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and when it gets the better of me, the horrible
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feeling I feel is the feeling that, hey, for the
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last hour, I've wasted my minutes. I haven't used every
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minute to the nth degree. And that's how This is
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how you beat these people. They want you afraid, They
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want you angry and hateful. They want you isolated, they
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want you back in the basement. They don't have the
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authority with the WU flu to do it right now,
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so they want you to do it just out of
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anger or fear. Don't let them. Don't let them win
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by making us change who we are, because that's what's
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making them crazy. Is Tom's right? So I said to Yan,
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Charlie was undoing years and millions of dollars of right.
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You know, It's true.
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