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Episode 469 - We Powered the House, Sank Some Ships, and Argued About AI on TechtalkRadio · TechtalkRadio

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Speaker 1: And now back to tech Talk Radio.
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Speaker 2: Well, social media has certainly been influenced by so many
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Speaker 2: things that so many trends, and of course the trends
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Speaker 2: come and go, but one of the trends that seems
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Speaker 2: to be sticking quite a bit is the trend for AI.
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Speaker 2: And with us is Eric Kim, who is the senior
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Speaker 2: director of Platform Responsibility and Public Affairs for Big O
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Speaker 2: Live North America, and it's here with us on Tech
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Speaker 2: Talk Radio, talk a little bit about number one, what
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Speaker 2: Big O Live is all about, and how we're seeing
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Speaker 2: a lot of this AI working its way into social
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Speaker 2: media and of course people using it to benefit Eric,
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Speaker 2: it's great to talk to you, Thanks for coming on.
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Speaker 3: Andy, it's really nice to be here. Thanks for having me,
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Speaker 3: and you're really excited to talk about what is really
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Speaker 3: interesting to a lot of people right now, which is
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Speaker 3: of course social media and AI and its impact on content.
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Speaker 3: I guess one of the first thing I just want
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Speaker 3: to talk about is, you know, you hear a lot
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Speaker 3: of things right now when people say AI and AI
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Speaker 3: is bad or is a problem? Is they're going to
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Speaker 3: trick us. And I think really the most important thing
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Speaker 3: is to differentiate between AI, which is a wonderful, wonderful toolset,
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Speaker 3: and then AI slop, which really talks about sort of
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Speaker 3: like the low effort, high volume and maybe sometimes not
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Speaker 3: always as edited or vetted content that's out there. A
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Speaker 3: big part of what we see in AI here is
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Speaker 3: largely about the fact that it's like a toolset. And
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Speaker 3: so when you look at our platform, like beinggle Live,
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Speaker 3: where a live streaming platform we connect users around the world,
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Speaker 3: you're able to meet with the real person in real
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Speaker 3: time and connect with them and chat with them. Our
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Speaker 3: users are really leveraging AI to try to best understand
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Speaker 3: how they can meet users when they are most active,
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Speaker 3: or how they can try to best understand how to
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Speaker 3: make highlights or clips of their content so that people
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Speaker 3: can really get to know them a little bit better.
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Speaker 3: The incentives of what makes AI really helpful for people
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Speaker 3: is we live in a high engagement, in high click environment,
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Speaker 3: and so when you kind of pump a lot of
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Speaker 3: poor content out there and it's getting a lot of clicks,
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Speaker 3: you know those people are getting rewarded. And that's sort
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Speaker 3: of where creators and users feel like, maybe, you know,
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Speaker 3: should we use AI or is AI out here to
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Speaker 3: kind of make our jobs, our lives a little bit
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Speaker 3: more difficult.
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Speaker 2: So some people Eric will say that the AI that
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Speaker 2: is available out there can really you know, boost up
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Speaker 2: that content and really increase that like that interaction. However,
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Speaker 2: it gets tiring after a point if somebody is relying
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Speaker 2: too much on it.
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Speaker 3: When it comes to like content, I think ultimately you
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Speaker 3: just got to decide, like what people are using. And
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Speaker 3: so right now, the fact is there are probably a
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Speaker 3: lot of AI related content that's being really rewarded, and
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Speaker 3: we as platforms and we as users and consumers have
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Speaker 3: to decide how do we feel about that? And you know,
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Speaker 3: for me personally, I think that there's nothing wrong with people,
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Speaker 3: you know, enjoying a certain type of content. You know,
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Speaker 3: I think, you know, back and that people would have
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Speaker 3: said memes are you know, sort of like low brow content,
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Speaker 3: but you know now they're hilarious and they're part of
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Speaker 3: the culture, right And so I think in this sort
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Speaker 3: of like day and age, it's not necessarily about oh,
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Speaker 3: people are using a lot of AI and it's good
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Speaker 3: or bad. I think it's really trying to understand why
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Speaker 3: people find that stuff interesting and then also trying to
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Speaker 3: filter through why that can have a sort of a
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Speaker 3: potential negative impact, like is it nourishing enough, is it
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Speaker 3: straight up deceiving people? Is it deceptive? You know, those
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Speaker 3: are I think are the differentiations. But you know, the
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Speaker 3: use itself, I don't think, you know, should be tied
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Speaker 3: to you know, any judgment if that content is good
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Speaker 3: or not.
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Speaker 4: Well.
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Speaker 2: One of the things I definitely want to hit upon
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Speaker 2: is big O Live as well. Taking a look at
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Speaker 2: the platform, I was actually pretty excited to see that
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Speaker 2: you can actually filter out some of the content that
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Speaker 2: you want to see from around the globe, I mean,
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Speaker 2: from all over the place, and I thought that was
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Speaker 2: kind of neat for somebody maybe who is from another
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Speaker 2: part of the world or another part of the country,
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Speaker 2: can actually you know, streamline that content to be delivered
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Speaker 2: to them for stuff that they would be interested in.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think with BIGO, we're putting people
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Speaker 3: and personality and availability and presentness togetherness first. You know.
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Speaker 3: The idea here is that on bigle Live, you're not
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Speaker 3: necessarily just making and recording a bunch of content and
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Speaker 3: putting it out there and hopes that somebody likes it.
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Speaker 3: And you see what cotstraction for us content is based
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Speaker 3: on togetherness, community and relationships. And so you're finding out
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Speaker 3: that certain types of people. It could be based on
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Speaker 3: the language they speak, or the time zone that they're in,
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Speaker 3: or the culture that they might represent. You know, the
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Speaker 3: beauty of it is is there's a big world out there,
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Speaker 3: and right now most platforms are sort of serving you
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Speaker 3: content from California or content in the United States when
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Speaker 3: you're in those areas. And for us, we use AI
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Speaker 3: to really help connect people based on the kinds of
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Speaker 3: people and the personalities and or the backgrounds or maybe
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Speaker 3: the cultural touch points that we think that you might enjoy.
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Speaker 3: And I think that's a really beautiful thing. You know,
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Speaker 3: you might not speak Spanish, but you might have a
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Speaker 3: really great time connecting with somebody using the translate live
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Speaker 3: translation tools that exist because of AI. And so I
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Speaker 3: think these things are really incredible stuff. You can find
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Speaker 3: people around the world that you otherwise maybe would not
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Speaker 3: have put done in a survey, and you're gonna be
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Speaker 3: able to use those tools to understand them in ways
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Speaker 3: that you can before. And I think these are sort
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Speaker 3: of amazing parts of AI.
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Speaker 2: AI slop. How would you best describe what AI slop is?
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Speaker 3: I mean, when I first hear the word slop, and
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Speaker 3: my immedia thought goes to like animal feed or you know,
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Speaker 3: things like that, and it's a shame, you know. I
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Speaker 3: think part of it is, you know, it's a little
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Speaker 3: bit maybe alarmists or negative just because it's different and
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Speaker 3: it's a lot and I go back again to sort
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Speaker 3: of like that mean culture and things like that.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 3: My feel is, at the end of the day, content
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Speaker 3: always will be either loved or disliked or respected, you know,
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Speaker 3: is it box office or is it critically acclaimed. And
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Speaker 3: I think when we think about AI slop, it's really
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Speaker 3: easy to sort of say, oh, that's low effort, so
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Speaker 3: therefore it's not good, or that's not as polished, or
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Speaker 3: that's not as well edited, so it must not be good.
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Speaker 3: I kind of look at it more as if you
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Speaker 3: are get getting people to be interested in your content
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Speaker 3: and people are engaging with it, I'd love to actually
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Speaker 3: apply AI tools to try to understand why that is
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Speaker 3: before we sort of frame everything in an old conversation
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Speaker 3: of this is slop versus that is you know, excellent.
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Speaker 2: Right, with these tools that are available, what are some
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Speaker 2: things that maybe people should think about before they start
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Speaker 2: really applying a lot of this this AI into their
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Speaker 2: social media creation.
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Speaker 5: Uh.
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Speaker 3: You know, I think one is you don't want to
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Speaker 3: replace yourself or you don't want to misrepresent yourself. I think,
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Speaker 3: you know, just like for all good content creation, it
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Speaker 3: should be you know, representative of your voice, and like
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Speaker 3: all good tools that should use to amplify you or
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Speaker 3: make it easier or take away the parts that you
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Speaker 3: find tedious and not wanting to do so you can
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Speaker 3: do more of the things that you love. You know,
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Speaker 3: just like all content and all forms of expression, you know,
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Speaker 3: it should be ways to make you feel more confident
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Speaker 3: to be yourself and be accepted for your voices and
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Speaker 3: your points of view. If you're using AI to just
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Speaker 3: sort of copy what's already out there because you think
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Speaker 3: it's popular, you know, you're just sort of kind of
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Speaker 3: on an assembly line, and that's probably going to be
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Speaker 3: regretful down the line. The part that brings people to
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Speaker 3: happiness is when AI saves some time and energy so
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Speaker 3: that people can do more and show up more for
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Speaker 3: the things they love.
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Speaker 6: You know.
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Speaker 3: For us as a live streaming platform, you know, our
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Speaker 3: creators really you know, deliver a lot of their personnellity
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Speaker 3: and the energy to make people happy or feel less alone,
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Speaker 3: or amplify maybe like niche hobbies and things like that,
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Speaker 3: which are really beautiful. But also it takes time to
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Speaker 3: promote yourself, make a poster, you know, make highlight clips,
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Speaker 3: and you know, if you know, it's all time. We
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Speaker 3: all have a set amount of hours in a day.
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Speaker 3: And if you can do some of that other work
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Speaker 3: that you mean maybe necessarily don't love as much, and
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Speaker 3: you can do it in a tenth of the time,
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Speaker 3: so that you can spend you know, twice as long,
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Speaker 3: you know, being live and present. And I think these
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Speaker 3: are beautiful things when it comes to you know, like
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Speaker 3: AI tools and trends. I think what's really amazing is,
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Speaker 3: you know, you have sort of the like brainstorming sketch side,
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Speaker 3: which is like you like you describe, people are making
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Speaker 3: stuff and doing things that you know may not be
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Speaker 3: sustainable or long term, but it's a great way to
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Speaker 3: get some practice and you also see what works and
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Speaker 3: it could really be sort of the birthing ground for
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Speaker 3: the next great creative project. You know, you've got to
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Speaker 3: know where to start with. And I think I think
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Speaker 3: that's really wonderful. But I think also the other side
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Speaker 3: of AI that is really an emergent trend should be
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Speaker 3: It should be sort of like, you know, kind of
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Speaker 3: the the robot vacuum in our lives, if you will,
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Speaker 3: Like it's got to take away that chore that you
8:29
Speaker 3: don't necessarily love doing but needs to get done. And
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Speaker 3: you know, there's sort of no way to measure how
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Speaker 3: much that's going to help your you know, mental health
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Speaker 3: and your capacity to actually do the other labor of love.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, when you think about robot vacuums, I mean when
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Speaker 2: they first came out, it was, oh, that's great. Now
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Speaker 2: they can climb stairs technology and keeps growing, right it does. Now,
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Speaker 2: how about somebody who's creating, though, what would you say
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Speaker 2: to them about maybe create utilizing some of these AI
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Speaker 2: tools without without harming their authenticity, Because that's all it
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Speaker 2: takes is people are pretty quick to scroll past. How
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Speaker 2: can they do that without it saying okay, this is
9:09
Speaker 2: affecting who you are and what you put out.
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think of like a really amazing example.
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Speaker 3: You know, there are a lot of people who really
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Speaker 3: want to entertain the world but don't desire to be famous,
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Speaker 3: or people who have a voice that they want to
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Speaker 3: share with the world, but don't necessarily want to put
9:25
Speaker 3: their face and name and share that with the world
9:26
Speaker 3: as well. And so I think tools like AI, you know,
9:29
Speaker 3: sometimes people can maybe alter their appearance because they think
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Speaker 3: that they need to fit with a different set of
9:35
Speaker 3: beauty standards. But I also think that people alter their
9:38
Speaker 3: appearance or even use you know, filters and things like
9:40
Speaker 3: that to really allow themselves the creative freedom to be
9:44
Speaker 3: as as creative as they want and have as much
9:48
Speaker 3: interaction as they want without you know, having the personal
9:51
Speaker 3: preference of just wanting to be a private person. And
9:53
Speaker 3: so I think these things are really amazing applications as well.
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Speaker 2: But when it comes to say, your creat that come
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Speaker 2: onto the big old Live platform, are there guidelines as
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Speaker 2: far as how this AI should be used responsibly? Because
10:08
Speaker 2: we again we've seen it on other platforms where it's like,
10:11
Speaker 2: well wait a minute, that's push again. How are the
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Speaker 2: guidelines set up on Bigo Live?
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Speaker 3: Well, for us, our community guidelines and our community safety measures,
10:21
Speaker 3: these things are also supported with AI tools, and so
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Speaker 3: for us as a platform for creators and users, we
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Speaker 3: allow users to use the tools to however they desire,
10:32
Speaker 3: but we also have these just as fast cutting edge
10:35
Speaker 3: tools to potentially allow us to predict and catch very
10:39
Speaker 3: quickly things that can be harmful, like you know, things
10:42
Speaker 3: like nudity and stuff like that that can be ultimately
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Speaker 3: harmful to an audience.
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Speaker 2: People are going to continue to use AI, whether it's
10:48
Speaker 2: going to be minimal or whether they choose to go
10:51
Speaker 2: all in on it. I don't know, and I think
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Speaker 2: this is an important discussion when it comes to responsibility
10:58
Speaker 2: of a creator, and of course the platform itself with
11:00
Speaker 2: big O, is taking very seriously. If our listeners Eric
11:04
Speaker 2: want to get more information about Bigo Live and become
11:07
Speaker 2: you know, a content creator on it, what do they
11:09
Speaker 2: need to do?
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Speaker 3: Oh, that's a great question. We're readily available on all
11:13
Speaker 3: major app stores, so you can go on to the
11:15
Speaker 3: Google play Store, the the App Store on iOS, search
11:20
Speaker 3: up Bigo Live and download us. We're free download and
11:22
Speaker 3: everyone can check it out. There's great easy step by
11:26
Speaker 3: step tools and buttons inside the app that will help
11:29
Speaker 3: guide people to do so. But for us, it's really
11:31
Speaker 3: as simple as you open the app, you set up
11:34
Speaker 3: your profile, click camera on, and then you check it
11:38
Speaker 3: out and see what it's like to live stream with
11:40
Speaker 3: the real world.
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Speaker 2: I have to ask will there be opportunities for monetization
11:46
Speaker 2: because I know a lot of creators they always look
11:48
Speaker 2: at that, you know, how can they make money with
11:51
Speaker 2: some of that? Will that be something that is available
11:53
Speaker 2: or is it?
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Speaker 4: Yes?
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, we offer tremendous monetization opportunities for users based on
11:58
Speaker 3: various levels of flex ability. So you have an opportunity
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Speaker 3: to monetize by maybe even live streaming like thirty minutes
12:05
Speaker 3: or just one day in a whole month. And you
12:07
Speaker 3: have also opportunities to sign up for a month long
12:10
Speaker 3: commitment where you look to make you know, almost a
12:13
Speaker 3: salary replacement money as well.
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Speaker 4: Nice.
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Speaker 2: That's always nice to Once again, if they want to
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Speaker 2: get more information, where do they go to?
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Speaker 3: Eric, They go to Bigo Live dot tv, as well
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Speaker 3: as searching up big Live, b I g O, L,
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Speaker 3: I ve E on all major opp stores.
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Speaker 2: Awesome, great to talk with you today. I want to
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Speaker 2: thank you for coming on tech Talk Radio.
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Speaker 4: Thanks so much, Handy. I want to thank Eric.
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Speaker 2: Kim once again for coming on and talking to us
12:36
Speaker 2: about Bigo Live and about AI and how AI has
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Speaker 2: made its way on a lot of social media platforms
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Speaker 2: that people are using. The social platform of Bigo Live
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Speaker 2: is content creators. Forty one percent of them have said
12:51
Speaker 2: that they are curious about AI, yet many are unsure
12:55
Speaker 2: about how it affects performance and audience relationships when they're
12:58
Speaker 2: trying to make that visual connection.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 2: I have seen some social media creators relying on AI
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Speaker 2: as we talked about in the discussion, but also you
13:09
Speaker 2: know there are some that are using it to just
13:11
Speaker 2: help make their workflow a little better. So again you
13:14
Speaker 2: could check that out beg Live. Now, before we get
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Speaker 2: back to the guys, I wanted to mention something and
13:19
Speaker 2: we've had Mike Nelson on the show before, of course,
13:22
Speaker 2: Mike Nelson from Rifttracks and Mystery Science Theater. A lot
13:25
Speaker 2: of us remember watching that. Well, the good news is
13:28
Speaker 2: new episodes of Mystery Science Theater three thousand are going
13:32
Speaker 2: to be available. Four new episodes have been confirmed, and
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Speaker 2: there's also Rift Tracks. Now, if you've not checked out
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Speaker 2: Rift Tracks, I don't know if you've ever done this.
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Speaker 2: I remember doing this with my boss when I worked
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Speaker 2: for the City of Norwalk. I can't remember what movie
13:48
Speaker 2: it was, but we had picked up a mobile TV
13:52
Speaker 2: production truck in San Antonio, Texas, and we had to
13:56
Speaker 2: drive that truck all the way back from Sanate Toonio
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Speaker 2: to Norwalk, California, and I don't even know if they're
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Speaker 2: still using that truck.
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Speaker 4: It was super cool.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it had you could park it, It had
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Speaker 2: production switchers inside the truck. You could then run the
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Speaker 2: cables into the city council chambers and we would do,
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Speaker 2: you know, two three camera shoots of the city council
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Speaker 2: meetings and this is you know we're talking. It would
14:21
Speaker 2: have been mid eighties that we were doing that, and
14:24
Speaker 2: then the local cable channel would go ahead and then
14:28
Speaker 2: play it over the cable network. You didn't have streaming
14:30
Speaker 2: video back then. But it was really neat well on
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Speaker 2: that drive, I remember me and the Boss Chuck, we
14:38
Speaker 2: had to stop because it's a long trip. We stopped
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Speaker 2: in Lordsburg, New Mexico, and stayed the night there and
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Speaker 2: I remember it was probably after we had dinner, came
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Speaker 2: up to my room, we put on the TV and.
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Speaker 4: We were just we were laughing.
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Speaker 2: Here's this guy, a total professional city manager, you know,
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Speaker 2: with me the production coordinator for the city, and.
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Speaker 4: We turned the volume down on some.
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Speaker 2: Really bad movie and we were creating our own audio tracks.
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Speaker 2: For that and it was just absolutely hilarious to see. Well,
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Speaker 2: that's when you know riff Tracks came along, and that's
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Speaker 2: basically what they did with the riff tracks experiments. They
15:19
Speaker 2: would take a movie and they would provide kind of
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Speaker 2: like Mystery Science Theater three thousand where they would comment,
15:25
Speaker 2: but this one, it was the entire audio was completely
15:28
Speaker 2: wiped out. They did the first episode of Lost, and
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Speaker 2: I used to love that show. They did that first
15:34
Speaker 2: episode of Lost as rift tracks and it was hilarious.
15:38
Speaker 2: Now they're taking suggestions of what could be a good
15:42
Speaker 2: rift track movie, and you can make those suggestions by
15:46
Speaker 2: going to the web going to riff tracks.
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Speaker 4: That's riff t r a X makes ms T three
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Speaker 4: k dot com.
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Speaker 2: All right, I'll put it in our show notes as well,
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Speaker 2: but then it's r I F F T r a
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Speaker 2: X makes ms T three k dot com. If you
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Speaker 2: have not checked out Mystery Science Theater or you've not
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Speaker 2: checked out rip tracks, it can certainly be a good
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Speaker 2: laugh for you. So I want to thank Meg. Mike
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Speaker 2: Nelson again years ago, came on the show and talked
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Speaker 2: about that, and we'll have to get that original audio
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Speaker 2: back up on the website.
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Speaker 4: That would be cool.
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Speaker 2: Speaking of websites, here's a cool trick a website that
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Speaker 2: I found that you could do this with text behindimage
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16:32
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Speaker 4: It super easy to do. That's what's so great.
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Speaker 2: There's so many websites that will give you all these
16:39
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Speaker 7: It's weird to think that just moving a thumbstick over
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Speaker 7: to how you've been playing games for the last two
17:29
Speaker 7: decades will change how you feel and how you react
17:32
Speaker 7: to games. And it's it's it's a it was a
17:35
Speaker 7: pleasant surprise to get that. So I'm excited about the
17:38
Speaker 7: support for the other controllers just because it gives me
17:41
Speaker 7: more controllers to have to play multiple games with without
17:44
Speaker 7: having it to be wired right, which is the big one.
17:47
Speaker 7: But yeah, they've got some other updates. Can track now
17:49
Speaker 7: how long you've been playing.
17:50
Speaker 2: Each of your cartridges Analog three D if people want
17:54
Speaker 2: to look that up is lo o uge. That's the British.
17:57
Speaker 2: It's very British, all right. So I want to ask
18:01
Speaker 2: when it comes to tracking your your health. I know
18:04
Speaker 2: that you know, I've got an Apple Watch. I think
18:07
Speaker 2: Sean your Apple Watch. Justin's wearing the Aura is it
18:12
Speaker 2: Aura ring?
18:14
Speaker 4: Yeah? How has that been for you?
18:16
Speaker 2: For people who don't want to do a traditional watch,
18:18
Speaker 2: you know, like Sean and I have, the Ura ring is.
18:20
Speaker 5: Probably more has actually been proven to be more sensitive
18:26
Speaker 5: and more accurate than any watch out there on the market,
18:29
Speaker 5: maybe comparable to the garment, but when it comes to
18:32
Speaker 5: like Apple Watch or like the pixel watch or whatever,
18:36
Speaker 5: or Samsung Galaxy Watch, the Ora ring is by far
18:39
Speaker 5: superior in terms of how accurate it is to your health.
18:43
Speaker 5: And I love it. It'll alert me, I mean it
18:45
Speaker 5: alerts me randomly throughout the day. It'll say something like, hey,
18:50
Speaker 5: last night, your resting heart rate went from forty nine
18:54
Speaker 5: to fifty one. Did you buy a chance eat any
18:57
Speaker 5: food before you went to bed? And I'm like, son
19:00
Speaker 5: of a gun, I ate a play of Nachows before
19:03
Speaker 5: I went to bed.
19:04
Speaker 4: Wow.
19:04
Speaker 5: Wow, And it knows it's that accurate.
19:07
Speaker 2: It's interesting because fitbit we think of our fitness and
19:10
Speaker 2: our health. Fitbit was really one of the first well
19:13
Speaker 2: the co founders of that, James Park and Eric Friedman,
19:15
Speaker 2: I have announced a new product and I think this
19:17
Speaker 2: is kind of a cool idea. But some people are
19:19
Speaker 2: going to be squaffing about the privacy concerns. Called LOOFU
19:24
Speaker 2: all right, and it's l u f f U if
19:27
Speaker 2: you want to look this up.
19:28
Speaker 4: They've got a public beta going on.
19:29
Speaker 2: But what it's designed for is it's an app experience
19:34
Speaker 2: that will allow you to measure not only your statistics
19:38
Speaker 2: but also family members.
19:41
Speaker 4: And these that's all ourd thing too.
19:43
Speaker 2: You know, say you've got parents that live maybe the
19:46
Speaker 2: same city or a different state.
19:48
Speaker 4: You would then be able to.
19:49
Speaker 2: See if there is anything that could be concerning when
19:53
Speaker 2: it comes to measuring the vitals.
19:55
Speaker 4: For your parents.
19:56
Speaker 2: Now, Like I said, some people are saying the privacy issue,
20:00
Speaker 2: you know, but as a family they may be onto
20:03
Speaker 2: something there. It depends. I think it's gonna depend on
20:05
Speaker 2: the family dynamics. But they also say caregivers that are
20:10
Speaker 2: you know, monitoring somebody that is undercare.
20:12
Speaker 4: Maybe not twenty four to seven care.
20:15
Speaker 2: This is this might be something again if you want
20:17
Speaker 2: to look it up and just you know, make your
20:19
Speaker 2: decision from there.
20:21
Speaker 4: L u f f u dot hut.
20:23
Speaker 5: I like the idea behind this, but I don't think
20:27
Speaker 5: it's gonna be successful because of that privacy. I mean,
20:31
Speaker 5: it's hard enough for me to get to have my
20:35
Speaker 5: wife allow me to track her location on Google Maps
20:38
Speaker 5: because she tracks my location on Google Maps. You don't
20:40
Speaker 5: do it for any particular reason. It's just hey, we
20:42
Speaker 5: know we're coming home, yeah, or we know where we're
20:45
Speaker 5: gonna I'm gonna pick up Eric for me to be like, hey, babe,
20:48
Speaker 5: can I track your heart rate and your metabolism?
20:50
Speaker 4: Like no, no.
20:52
Speaker 5: Oh, it's not gonna happen.
20:54
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true. That would be That would be
20:57
Speaker 2: an interesting discussion. All right, We got to take quick
20:59
Speaker 2: break back cool new innovations and technology we'll talk more
21:03
Speaker 2: about that.
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Speaker 4: I'm Andy Taylor.
21:05
Speaker 5: And I'm Justin. Let me find us on the webed
21:07
Speaker 5: tech talk radio dot com.
21:09
Speaker 4: We'll be right back now back to tech talk Radio.
21:13
Speaker 2: We're just talking about tracking. And I don't know if
21:15
Speaker 2: you guys saw the news, I wanted to mention it.
21:17
Speaker 2: Air tags have been updated and if you use air
21:21
Speaker 2: tags or not, precision finding, there you go.
21:25
Speaker 4: So now they're saying that your.
21:27
Speaker 2: Air tag can be used about one hundred and fifty
21:31
Speaker 2: feet away to find something rather than the fifty feet away.
21:35
Speaker 2: They're keeping the price down at about twenty nine bucks
21:38
Speaker 2: for an AirTag. So I don't know, it's just something
21:40
Speaker 2: to think about. Yeah, Justin, you have kind of a
21:42
Speaker 2: smirk on your face. Oh yeah, no reason because we're
21:46
Speaker 2: metching Apple.
21:48
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna put
21:50
Speaker 5: those out there, all right, go ahead, the pixel, the
21:52
Speaker 5: pixel phones, the Google Android. They released their their version
21:56
Speaker 5: of air tags.
21:57
Speaker 1: All right.
21:57
Speaker 5: It works way better than Apple air tags and it
21:59
Speaker 5: can be on average about three hundred feet all of
22:02
Speaker 5: a sudden, Wow wow, Apple up to one hundred and
22:05
Speaker 5: three hundred feet really, yeah, oh wow?
22:08
Speaker 2: I know the tile is about that I have the
22:11
Speaker 2: tile and I use that and I love tile.
22:13
Speaker 4: So just something new. If you're in the Apple ecosphere.
22:16
Speaker 5: Apple, you know, yeah, Apple, Yeah, go ahead, go for it.
22:18
Speaker 5: Go go one hundred and fifty feet. What meanwhile, I'll
22:20
Speaker 5: be able to find my device from three hundred.
22:22
Speaker 7: I'm surprising the Apple didn't make that part of the
22:25
Speaker 7: Premium Creator bundle. In charge of subscriptions for it.
22:28
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, you're gonna need a dongle for that.
22:29
Speaker 7: By the way, to get to get accurate to more
22:32
Speaker 7: than one mile, please pay nine ninety nine.
22:34
Speaker 4: Yeah, subscriptions. Games. We will talk a little bit about games.
22:38
Speaker 2: I kind of touched on the next and then of
22:40
Speaker 2: course Sean with the analog.
22:42
Speaker 4: You're playing a game? What are you playing this one on?
22:44
Speaker 5: Justin a couple of weeks ago, I found a game
22:46
Speaker 5: on Steam. It was actually released back in October, so
22:50
Speaker 5: it's relatively.
22:51
Speaker 4: New, right.
22:52
Speaker 5: It is one of my favorite games I've ever played
22:54
Speaker 5: in my life. It's called World of Seat Battle. Now,
22:57
Speaker 5: don't get this confused with World of Warship or World
23:01
Speaker 5: of Tanks or whatever. Was High Seas game you were
23:05
Speaker 5: playing before too, that was different.
23:07
Speaker 4: It was Thieves.
23:08
Speaker 5: Thieves is so see if Thimes is like a first
23:11
Speaker 5: person pirate game where you know, you're playing as the
23:15
Speaker 5: pirate and you're sailing your ship and you have to
23:18
Speaker 5: lower and raise the sales by yourself. And but that game,
23:22
Speaker 5: I mean, it's cartoonish. It gets kind of boring. I mean,
23:25
Speaker 5: there's not I mean whatever. Anyway, World to See Battle
23:28
Speaker 5: is a free to play. It's on Steam. I don't
23:31
Speaker 5: think it's on any other platform you have to pay
23:34
Speaker 5: for it to No, it's free to play. Oh wow,
23:36
Speaker 5: free to play all right, And it's an MMO, so
23:39
Speaker 5: massively multiplayer online. Now, the thing about this game is
23:43
Speaker 5: again it was released back in October. It was by
23:45
Speaker 5: a Russian developer, so this is part of the thing
23:49
Speaker 5: that people are like, well, wait is a Russian developer.
23:52
Speaker 5: It's not as popular in the US as it is
23:55
Speaker 5: in Europe and Russia. Right now, the Russian server is
23:58
Speaker 5: completely overloaded with people. The European server is extremely loaded
24:03
Speaker 5: with people, not quite overloaded. And then you got the
24:05
Speaker 5: North American server, which is kind of like, eh, I
24:08
Speaker 5: got time, oh wow, so you can get in no
24:10
Speaker 5: matter what. Now the game is, it's again, it's more
24:14
Speaker 5: of a third person isometric view of sailing ships. Now,
24:19
Speaker 5: I'm not talking about modern warships, nuclear powered, coal power,
24:24
Speaker 5: diesel powered. I'm talking about sailboats. And it's the age
24:29
Speaker 5: of pirates. And you travel around what I assume is
24:33
Speaker 5: the Caribbean, and you're you go from island to island.
24:37
Speaker 5: You take on you know, other players, you take on
24:40
Speaker 5: NPC non playable character, you take on computer controlled ships.
24:45
Speaker 5: You just you you sinc the ships and you take
24:47
Speaker 5: their loot and you go and sell the loot and
24:50
Speaker 5: you make money. And the game the graphics are absolutely gorgeous,
24:55
Speaker 5: The soundtrack is amazing. The gameplay is really really fun.
25:00
Speaker 5: It keeps you back, and it is such a grind.
25:02
Speaker 5: It's not something that you can easily just win the game. Now, granted,
25:07
Speaker 5: because it's free to play, it's also pay to win.
25:11
Speaker 1: Now.
25:11
Speaker 5: I not say pay to win lightly, because you really
25:14
Speaker 5: can't win. I mean, yes, you can go out and
25:16
Speaker 5: spend one thousand dollars on the best ship in the game,
25:19
Speaker 5: but you're gonna get your butt kicked because you don't.
25:21
Speaker 4: Know how to use it.
25:22
Speaker 5: So it's the same same kind of the theory applies.
25:26
Speaker 5: And I'm sure Sean can speak to this in different
25:29
Speaker 5: games where there is a paid way to go straight
25:34
Speaker 5: to the top.
25:34
Speaker 7: I mean that's pretty much any game at this point.
25:36
Speaker 4: Yeah.
25:37
Speaker 7: I mean there's there's there's there's a lot of other
25:39
Speaker 7: games like that, Path of Exile, Clash of Clans. I mean,
25:43
Speaker 7: there's other games where you can just don't tons of
25:45
Speaker 7: money and get it, get get the best stuff. You're
25:48
Speaker 7: not good at the game, there's no benefit.
25:51
Speaker 5: Right, And that's what I'm strying to say.
25:52
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, some waste of money in my opinion.
25:54
Speaker 4: But Clash Clans that was so much fun. Don't even
25:59
Speaker 4: I've met before.
26:00
Speaker 7: It's it's his fault that I got into Classic Plans too.
26:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well yeah yeah.
26:06
Speaker 5: I spent probably over the course of what five ten
26:09
Speaker 5: years when I played Clashic Plans. I think I probably
26:12
Speaker 5: drop about fifteen hundred dollars ooh wow un Clash of Clans,
26:15
Speaker 5: oh man, but yeah, over I mean it was like,
26:18
Speaker 5: oh ten bucks here, ten bucks there. Oh, I got
26:21
Speaker 5: a gift card for my birthday for fifty bucks. Yeah,
26:23
Speaker 5: I'll put it towards Clash of Clans, you know, yeah,
26:26
Speaker 5: I get it. Yeah, this is how companies make money.
26:28
Speaker 5: But this is the same idea behind it, but you
26:30
Speaker 5: don't need to spend that money. You can just grind
26:33
Speaker 5: it out and you can just have fun along the way.
26:35
Speaker 5: There's a lot of fun to be had while you're
26:38
Speaker 5: playing this game free again. It's called World of Sea Battle.
26:42
Speaker 5: I feel, and it's on Steam. I feel so beautiful.
26:45
Speaker 2: Inadequate because you guys play these great What do I play?
26:48
Speaker 4: I play Wordle? Dude.
26:51
Speaker 5: I keep telling you to get with us on Steam,
26:54
Speaker 5: and you never do. It's been ten years, you know.
26:57
Speaker 2: Once in a while I'll be at the computer and
26:58
Speaker 2: I'll fire up a game. Of course you're gaming again. Yeah,
27:02
Speaker 2: I'm playing Solitaire. They brought it back in Windows eleven.
27:08
Speaker 2: It's pretty happy though. But no, I've been playing Wordle.
27:11
Speaker 2: Here's the thing for those people that play Wordle. I
27:14
Speaker 2: play every night and it's a lot of fun. There's
27:16
Speaker 2: a Quardle, which is another one, and we do it together.
27:20
Speaker 2: We just come up with a word. We see if
27:21
Speaker 2: we can get it before we run out of letters.
27:24
Speaker 2: They just announced if you play wordle, New York Times
27:27
Speaker 2: is bringing old words back. So what happens is you
27:31
Speaker 2: play word and then they kind of put that word
27:33
Speaker 2: into a vault. They're bringing them all back now. So
27:37
Speaker 2: now it's gonna be a bit of a challenge because
27:40
Speaker 2: people thought, okay, that game, we're already played that word.
27:43
Speaker 4: It's coming back.
27:44
Speaker 2: So again, that's a fun one, and that one's free
27:46
Speaker 2: to play, and it's a good mind it's a good
27:49
Speaker 2: mind game.
27:49
Speaker 4: I do like that one.
27:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, that works out good. We do have a listener
27:53
Speaker 2: question I wanted to share. This one was from Ben says, hey, guys,
27:58
Speaker 2: love the tech jokes you did a couple of weeks back.
28:01
Speaker 2: This should be a regular feature on the show. Then
28:04
Speaker 2: Ben wanted to share one with us, So can I
28:06
Speaker 2: share it with you guys? Yeah, says I have one.
28:09
Speaker 2: Why did the developer go broke? Why did the developer
28:13
Speaker 2: go broke? He used up all his cash?
28:17
Speaker 4: Oh cash is in.
28:18
Speaker 2: C Yeah yeah yeah Ben, Yeah, Ben said sid this
28:26
Speaker 2: another one?
28:27
Speaker 4: All right?
28:28
Speaker 2: This one from Selena and SELOUDETHA. Could you recommend a
28:31
Speaker 2: good webcam for doing a video podcast? I was thinking
28:34
Speaker 2: about getting into YouTube for this, but I don't want
28:37
Speaker 2: to do it on my phone. Selena and SOLOUDETHA, Oh
28:40
Speaker 2: good question, Selena, I don't know.
28:42
Speaker 7: And any USB webcam above ten ADP Yeah, yeah, I
28:46
Speaker 7: mean you're gonna get. You can spend as much as
28:50
Speaker 7: you want, or you can spend as little as you want. Obviously,
28:52
Speaker 7: don't buy a five dollars webcam from well Selena.
28:55
Speaker 5: If you're watching the video portion of this particular Podcas asked,
29:00
Speaker 5: you're gonna notice Andy has the worst webcam possible. Then
29:06
Speaker 5: you got Sean, who's got it, you know, a decent webcam.
29:10
Speaker 5: And then you got me, and I've got a thirty
29:12
Speaker 5: three hundred dollars Sony DSLR. No, not even a DSLR.
29:17
Speaker 5: What do you call that, now, Sean, just let's call it.
29:19
Speaker 8: That's so, it's just a mirror mirrorless. It's not even
29:23
Speaker 8: an SLR mirror just mirrorless, mirrorless. It's just a mirrorless
29:26
Speaker 8: professional camera. So if you're looking at my camera and
29:29
Speaker 8: you're like, I want one like that, no, you're not
29:31
Speaker 8: going to get that. No, you'd have to spend about
29:33
Speaker 8: thirty three hundred dollars to get a professional camera.
29:36
Speaker 4: Now, which which one are you using? Sean?
29:38
Speaker 7: A go Pro Hero three plus at least in twenty eleven.
29:43
Speaker 4: And now is that's ten ADP right? It is?
29:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm using the Logitech Brio the MX so so.
29:51
Speaker 4: So, Selena, do not get the Logitech brill. I don't know.
29:54
Speaker 2: Mine's so much the camera. I think it's lighting because
29:57
Speaker 2: I'm under five lights. I don't have spotlighting like you
30:01
Speaker 2: guys do. It's just bright, That's what I think it is.
30:04
Speaker 2: At least I could be the overhead lights. But I
30:06
Speaker 2: think it's more your your camera.
30:08
Speaker 7: And I did adjust, so we talked about lighting in mind, right,
30:11
Speaker 7: I did adjust it a little bit, so now it
30:13
Speaker 7: looks a little bit better in the background. It's not
30:15
Speaker 7: as dark in the background.
30:16
Speaker 5: So now and with mine, I put I put something
30:19
Speaker 5: on in the background, I'll put on my main TV.
30:21
Speaker 5: I'll put something in so it gives that background light
30:24
Speaker 5: source to be able to focus on. That's why mine
30:28
Speaker 5: looks like that.
30:28
Speaker 2: But Selena, before you go and spend the thirty three
30:31
Speaker 2: thirty three hundred bucks, they're adjusted. Yeah, for the time
30:34
Speaker 2: you might want to just make get your podcast up
30:36
Speaker 2: and running, you know, get it going. And just another
30:41
Speaker 2: company a Logitech, I do believe is good. Another company
30:44
Speaker 2: that makes them is el Gato. They have a camera
30:48
Speaker 2: that people have been saying really good things about and
30:51
Speaker 2: el got great.
30:52
Speaker 7: Yeah.
30:52
Speaker 4: Gotto is one of those.
30:53
Speaker 2: It's like a couple of products when they started, and
30:56
Speaker 2: now they have a wide breadth of products, including like
30:59
Speaker 2: even a news uh stream deck keyboard, which almost say,
31:03
Speaker 2: I was.
31:03
Speaker 7: Just gonna mention that they have. It's got this call
31:05
Speaker 7: that I think it's called the c test see one ten.
31:07
Speaker 7: It's literally a one t of one hundred percent keyboard.
31:13
Speaker 7: But the numb pad is a stream deck.
31:15
Speaker 6: Wow, It's built into the keyboard, right, And what that
31:19
Speaker 6: means is that you you if you have say you
31:21
Speaker 6: have a guest Selena, and you want to switch to
31:23
Speaker 6: their camera, you'd be able to do that from the
31:25
Speaker 6: keyboard and go back.
31:26
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't.
31:27
Speaker 7: I don't have to reach up here and touch the buttons.
31:29
Speaker 7: I can just do it right on a keyboard, which
31:31
Speaker 7: is something we're looking at getting in for work. Oh,
31:34
Speaker 7: that was having a stream deck because we have a
31:36
Speaker 7: KVM system at work, meaning I can go to multiple
31:38
Speaker 7: computers from the same station having that available to me.
31:42
Speaker 7: So if I just go to the computer that has
31:43
Speaker 7: the stream deck on, it would pop up populate. I
31:45
Speaker 7: can then operate it right from there instead of having
31:47
Speaker 7: to you know, use this campaign. Is that allite a
31:51
Speaker 7: Raspberry pie or wherever?
31:52
Speaker 5: Speaking of speaking of that, Sean, you know what else
31:55
Speaker 5: you guys should consider for work getting a championship?
31:59
Speaker 2: Hey, oh ow out notre dame joke there, oh out,
32:06
Speaker 2: that's fired.
32:07
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, let me tell you.
32:08
Speaker 2: Coming up, we're gonna talk to Eric Kim, Senior director
32:11
Speaker 2: of Platform Responsibility for bego Live b i g O
32:14
Speaker 2: Live North America. It's a kind of a streaming video
32:18
Speaker 2: platform that allows you to make direct connections with some
32:21
Speaker 2: of those creators that are putting these videos out.
32:25
Speaker 4: Again some of you, if you want to take a
32:26
Speaker 4: look at it, but we're going to talk.
32:27
Speaker 2: About AI slop and why more creators are looking at
32:31
Speaker 2: integrating AI into their their content, whether it's still content
32:36
Speaker 2: on Facebook or YouTube or you know, video content, they're
32:40
Speaker 2: finding ways to integrate that. So again we'll do that
32:43
Speaker 2: when we come back with tech talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor,
32:46
Speaker 2: I'm Sean.
32:46
Speaker 5: De Weird, and I'm justin. Lem Me send us an
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Speaker 5: X at tech talk Radio.
32:51
Speaker 1: We'll be right back and now back to tech talk Radio.
32:55
Speaker 2: Well, social media has certainly been influenced by so many
32:58
Speaker 2: things that so many trends, and of course the trends
33:01
Speaker 2: coming go but one of the trends that seems to
33:03
Speaker 2: be sticking quite a bit is the trend for AI.
33:07
Speaker 2: And with us is Eric Kim, who is the senior
33:10
Speaker 2: director of Platform Responsibility and Public Affairs for Big O
33:15
Speaker 2: Live North America, and it's here with us on tech
33:18
Speaker 2: talk Radio talk a little bit about number one, what
33:20
Speaker 2: Big O Live is all about, and how we're seeing
33:23
Speaker 2: a lot of this AI working its way into social
33:26
Speaker 2: media and of course people using it to benefit Eric,
33:29
Speaker 2: it's great to talk to you, Thanks for coming on.
33:31
Speaker 3: A Andy, it's really nice to be here, Thanks for
33:33
Speaker 3: having me, and you're really excited to talk about what
33:35
Speaker 3: is really interesting to a lot of people right now,
33:38
Speaker 3: which is of course social media and AI and its
33:41
Speaker 3: impact on content. I guess one of the first thing
33:44
Speaker 3: I just want to talk about is, you know, you
33:46
Speaker 3: hear a lot of things right now when people say
33:48
Speaker 3: AI and AI is bad or is a problem? Is
33:51
Speaker 3: going to trick us, and I think really the most
33:54
Speaker 3: important thing is to differentiate between AI which is a wonderful,
33:57
Speaker 3: wonderful toolset and then AI slop, which really talks about
34:01
Speaker 3: sort of like the low effort, high volume and maybe
34:06
Speaker 3: sometimes not always as edited or vetted content that's out there.
34:10
Speaker 3: A big part of what we see in AI here
34:15
Speaker 3: is largely about the fact that it's like a tool set.
34:17
Speaker 3: And so when you look at our platform, like beinggle Live,
34:22
Speaker 3: where a live streaming platform we connect users around the world,
34:25
Speaker 3: you're able to meet with the real person in real
34:28
Speaker 3: time and connect with them and chat with them. Our
34:30
Speaker 3: users are really leveraging AI to try to best understand
34:34
Speaker 3: how they can meet users when they are most active,
34:37
Speaker 3: or how they can try to best understand how to
34:42
Speaker 3: make highlights or clips of their content so that people
34:45
Speaker 3: can really get to know them a little bit better.
34:47
Speaker 3: The incentives of what makes AI really helpful for people
34:50
Speaker 3: is we live in a high engagement, high click environment
34:54
Speaker 3: and so when you kind of pump a lot of
34:57
Speaker 3: poor content out there and it's getting a lot of clicks,
35:00
Speaker 3: you know, those people are getting rewarded. And that's sort
35:02
Speaker 3: of where creators and users feel like, maybe, you know,
35:06
Speaker 3: should we use AI or is AI out here to
35:08
Speaker 3: kind of make our jobs our lives a little bit
35:10
Speaker 3: more difficult.
35:11
Speaker 2: So some people eric will say that the AI that
35:14
Speaker 2: is available out there can really you know, boost up
35:17
Speaker 2: that content and really increase that likes that interaction. However,
35:22
Speaker 2: it gets tiring after a point if somebody is relying
35:25
Speaker 2: too much on it.
35:26
Speaker 3: When it comes to like content, I think ultimately you
35:28
Speaker 3: just got to decide, like what people are using. And
35:31
Speaker 3: so right now, the fact is there are probably a
35:34
Speaker 3: lot of AI related content that's being really rewarded, and
35:38
Speaker 3: we as platforms and we as users and consumers have
35:41
Speaker 3: to decide how do we feel about that? And you know,
35:46
Speaker 3: for me personally, I think that there's nothing wrong with people,
35:50
Speaker 3: you know, enjoying a certain type of content. You know,
35:52
Speaker 3: I think, you know, back in the day, people would
35:53
Speaker 3: have said memes are you know, sort of like low
35:55
Speaker 3: brow content, but you know, now they're hilarious and they're
35:58
Speaker 3: part of the culture, right, And so I think in
36:00
Speaker 3: this sort of like day and age, it's not necessarily
36:03
Speaker 3: about oh, people are using a lot of AI and
36:05
Speaker 3: it's good or bad. I think it's really trying to
36:07
Speaker 3: understand why people find that stuff interesting and then also
36:11
Speaker 3: trying to filter through why that can have a sort
36:14
Speaker 3: of a potential negative impact, like is it nourishing enough,
36:17
Speaker 3: is it straight up deceiving people? Is it deceptive? You know,
36:20
Speaker 3: those are I think are the differentiations. But you know,
36:23
Speaker 3: the use itself, I don't think, you know, should be
36:25
Speaker 3: tied to you know, any judgment if that content is
36:28
Speaker 3: good or not.
36:28
Speaker 4: Well.
36:29
Speaker 2: One of the things I definitely woult to hit upon
36:30
Speaker 2: is big O Live as well. Taking a look at
36:32
Speaker 2: the platform, I was actually pretty excited to see that
36:35
Speaker 2: you can actually filter out some of the content that
36:38
Speaker 2: you want to see from around the globe, I mean,
36:39
Speaker 2: from all over the place, and I thought that was
36:42
Speaker 2: kind of neat for somebody maybe who is from another
36:44
Speaker 2: part of the world or another part of the country,
36:46
Speaker 2: can actually you know, streamline that content to be delivered
36:51
Speaker 2: to them for stuff that they would be interested in.
36:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think with BIGO, we're putting people
36:57
Speaker 3: and personality and availability and presentness togetherness first.
37:02
Speaker 4: You know.
37:02
Speaker 3: The idea here is that on bigle Live, you're not
37:04
Speaker 3: necessarily just making and recording a bunch of content and
37:07
Speaker 3: putting it out there and hopes that somebody likes it.
37:10
Speaker 3: And you see what cotstraction for us, content is based
37:12
Speaker 3: on togetherness, community and relationships, and so you're finding out
37:16
Speaker 3: that certain types of people it could be based on
37:19
Speaker 3: the language they speak, or the time zone that they're in,
37:23
Speaker 3: or the culture that they might represent. You know, the
37:25
Speaker 3: beauty of it is is there's a big world out there,
37:27
Speaker 3: and right now most platforms are sort of serving you
37:30
Speaker 3: content from California or content in the United States when
37:34
Speaker 3: you're in those areas. And for us, we use AI
37:37
Speaker 3: to really help connect people based on the kinds of
37:40
Speaker 3: people and the personalities or the backgrounds or maybe the
37:43
Speaker 3: cultural touch points that we think that you might enjoy.
37:46
Speaker 3: And I think that's a really beautiful thing. You know,
37:48
Speaker 3: you might not speak Spanish, but you might have a
37:51
Speaker 3: really great time connecting with somebody using the live translation
37:55
Speaker 3: tools that exist because of AI, and so I think
37:57
Speaker 3: these things are really incredible stuff. You can find people
38:00
Speaker 3: around the world that you otherwise maybe would not have
38:02
Speaker 3: put done in a survey, and you're going to be
38:04
Speaker 3: able to use those tools to understand them in ways
38:07
Speaker 3: that you can before. And I think these are sort
38:08
Speaker 3: of amazing parts of AI.
38:10
Speaker 2: AI slop. How would you best describe what AI slop is?
38:14
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, when I first share the word
38:15
Speaker 3: slop and my immediate thought goes to like animal feed
38:18
Speaker 3: or you know, things like that, and it's a shame,
38:21
Speaker 3: you know. I think part of it is, you know,
38:23
Speaker 3: it's a little bit maybe alarmists or negative just because
38:26
Speaker 3: it's different and it's a lot and I go back
38:29
Speaker 3: again to sort of like that mean culture and things
38:31
Speaker 3: like that. You know, my feel is, at the end
38:33
Speaker 3: of the day, content always will be either loved or
38:36
Speaker 3: disliked or respected, you know, is it box office or
38:39
Speaker 3: is it critically acclaimed? And I think when we think
38:41
Speaker 3: about AI slop, it's really easy to sort of say, oh,
38:43
Speaker 3: that's low effort, so therefore it's not good, or that's
38:46
Speaker 3: not as polished, or that's not as well edited, so
38:48
Speaker 3: it must not be good.
38:50
Speaker 7: I kind of look at it.
38:51
Speaker 3: More as if you are getting people to be interested
38:55
Speaker 3: in your content and people are engaging with it, I'd
38:57
Speaker 3: love to actually apply AI tools to try to and
39:00
Speaker 3: why that is before we sort of frame everything in
39:03
Speaker 3: an old conversation of this is slop versus that is,
39:06
Speaker 3: you know.
39:07
Speaker 2: Excellent, right with these tools that are available, what are
39:10
Speaker 2: some things that maybe people should think about before they
39:13
Speaker 2: start really applying a lot of this this AI into their.
39:18
Speaker 4: Social media creation.
39:20
Speaker 3: Uh, you know, I think one is you don't want
39:22
Speaker 3: to replace yourself or you don't want to misrepresent yourself.
39:25
Speaker 3: I think, you know, just like for all good content, creation,
39:28
Speaker 3: it should be you know, representative of your voice, and
39:31
Speaker 3: like all good tools that should use to amplify you
39:33
Speaker 3: or make it easier or take away the parts that
39:36
Speaker 3: you find tedious and not wanting to do so you
39:38
Speaker 3: can do more of the things that you love. You know,
39:40
Speaker 3: just like all content and all forms of expression, you know,
39:43
Speaker 3: it should be ways to make you feel more confident
39:46
Speaker 3: to be yourself and be accepted for your voices and
39:49
Speaker 3: your points of view. If you're using AI to just
39:52
Speaker 3: sort of copy what's already out there because you think
39:55
Speaker 3: it's popular, you know, you're just sort of kind of
39:57
Speaker 3: on an assembly line, and that's probably going to be regretful. Download.
40:00
Speaker 3: The part that brings people to happiness is when AI
40:02
Speaker 3: saves some time and energy so that people can do
40:06
Speaker 3: more and show up more for the things they love.
40:08
Speaker 3: You know, For us as a live streaming platform, you know,
40:11
Speaker 3: our creators really you know, deliver a lot of their
40:14
Speaker 3: personnellity and the energy to make people happy or feel
40:18
Speaker 3: less alone or amplify maybe like niche hobbies and things
40:22
Speaker 3: like that, which are really beautiful. But also it takes
40:24
Speaker 3: time to promote yourself, make a poster, you know, make
40:27
Speaker 3: highlight clips, and you know, if you know, it's all time.
40:30
Speaker 3: We all have a set amount of hours in a day,
40:32
Speaker 3: and if you can do some of that other work
40:34
Speaker 3: that you maybe necessarily don't love as much, and you
40:37
Speaker 3: can do it in a tenth of the time, so
40:38
Speaker 3: that you can spend you know, twice as long, you know,
40:41
Speaker 3: being live and present. And I think these are beautiful
40:43
Speaker 3: things when it comes to you know, like AI tools
40:47
Speaker 3: and trends. I think what's really amazing is, you know,
40:50
Speaker 3: you have sort of the like brainstorming sketch book side,
40:53
Speaker 3: which is like you like you describe, people are making
40:55
Speaker 3: stuff and doing things that you know may not be
40:58
Speaker 3: sustainable or long term, but it's a great way to
41:00
Speaker 3: get some practice and you also see what works, and
41:03
Speaker 3: it could really be sort of the birthing ground for
41:05
Speaker 3: the next great creative project. You know, you've got to
41:07
Speaker 3: know where to start with. And I think I think
41:09
Speaker 3: that's really wonderful. But I think also the other side
41:11
Speaker 3: of AI that is really an emergent trend should be
41:14
Speaker 3: it should be sort of like you know, kind of
41:16
Speaker 3: the the robot vacuum in our lives, if you will,
41:20
Speaker 3: Like it's got to take away that chore that you
41:22
Speaker 3: don't necessarily love doing, but needs to get done. And
41:25
Speaker 3: you know, there's sort of no way to measure how
41:27
Speaker 3: much that's going to help your you know, mental health
41:30
Speaker 3: and your capacity to actually do the other labor of love.
41:33
Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely.
41:34
Speaker 2: When you think about robot vacuums, I mean when they
41:36
Speaker 2: first came out, it was, oh, that's great. Now they
41:38
Speaker 2: can climb stairs technology and keeps growing, right it does. Now,
41:43
Speaker 2: how about somebody who's creating, though, what would you say
41:47
Speaker 2: to them about maybe create utilizing some of these AI
41:51
Speaker 2: tools without without harming their authenticity, Because that's all it
41:55
Speaker 2: takes is people are pretty quick to scroll past. How
42:00
Speaker 2: can they do that without it saying okay, this is
42:02
Speaker 2: affecting who you are and what you put out.
42:04
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think of like a really amazing example.
42:07
Speaker 3: You know, there are a lot of people who really
42:09
Speaker 3: want to entertain the world but don't desire to be famous,
42:12
Speaker 3: or people who have a voice that they want to
42:15
Speaker 3: share with the world, but don't necessarily want to put
42:18
Speaker 3: their face and name and share that with the world
42:20
Speaker 3: as well. And so I think tools like AI, you know,
42:22
Speaker 3: sometimes people can maybe alter their appearance because they think
42:26
Speaker 3: that they need to fit with a different set of
42:28
Speaker 3: beauty standards. But I also think that people alter their
42:31
Speaker 3: appearance or even use you know, filters and things like
42:34
Speaker 3: that to really allow themselves, the creator freedom to be
42:37
Speaker 3: as as creative as they want and have as much
42:41
Speaker 3: interaction as they want without you know, having the personal
42:44
Speaker 3: preference of just wanting to be a private person. And
42:46
Speaker 3: so I think these things are really amazing applications as well.
42:50
Speaker 2: But when it comes to say, your creators that come
42:53
Speaker 2: on to the big old Live platform, are there guidelines
42:57
Speaker 2: as far as how this AI should be used responsibly?
43:01
Speaker 2: Because we again we've seen it on other platforms where
43:04
Speaker 2: it's like, well, wait a minute, that's pushing it. How
43:07
Speaker 2: are the guidelines set up on Bigo Live?
43:09
Speaker 3: Well? For us, our community guidelines and our community safety measures.
43:14
Speaker 3: These things are also supported with AI tools, and so
43:17
Speaker 3: for us as a platform for creators and users, we
43:21
Speaker 3: allow users to use the tools to however they desire,
43:25
Speaker 3: but we also have these just as fast cutting edge
43:28
Speaker 3: tools to potentially allow us to predict and catch very
43:32
Speaker 3: quickly things that can be harmful, like you know, things
43:35
Speaker 3: like nudity and stuff like that that can be ultimately
43:37
Speaker 3: harmful to an audience.
43:38
Speaker 2: People are going to continue to use AI, whether it's
43:41
Speaker 2: going to be minimal or whether they choose to go
43:44
Speaker 2: all in on it. I don't know, and I think
43:47
Speaker 2: this is an important discussion when it comes to responsibility
43:51
Speaker 2: of a creator, and of course the platform itself with
43:53
Speaker 2: big Oo, is taking very seriously. If our listeners Eric
43:57
Speaker 2: want to get more information about Bigo Live become you know,
44:01
Speaker 2: a content creator on it, what do they need to do?
44:03
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a great question. We're readily available on all
44:06
Speaker 3: major app stores, so you can go on to the
44:08
Speaker 3: Google play Store, the App Store on iOS, search up
44:13
Speaker 3: Begle Live and download us where free download and everyone
44:16
Speaker 3: can check it out. There's great easy step by step
44:20
Speaker 3: tools and buttons inside the app that will help guide
44:23
Speaker 3: people to do so. But for us, it's really as
44:25
Speaker 3: simple as you open the app, you set up your profile,
44:28
Speaker 3: click camera on, and then you check it out and
44:31
Speaker 3: see what it's like to live stream with the real world.
44:34
Speaker 2: I have to ask will there be opportunities for monetization,
44:39
Speaker 2: because I know a lot of creators they always look
44:41
Speaker 2: at that, you know, how can they make money with
44:44
Speaker 2: some of that? Will that be something that is available
44:46
Speaker 2: or is.
44:46
Speaker 4: It yes, absolutely.
44:47
Speaker 3: We offer tremendous monetization opportunities for users based on various
44:52
Speaker 3: levels of flexibility. So you have an opportunity to monetize
44:55
Speaker 3: by maybe even live streaming like thirty minutes or just
44:58
Speaker 3: one day in a whole month. You have also opportunities
45:01
Speaker 3: to sign up for a month long commitment where you
45:04
Speaker 3: look to make you know, almost a salary replacement money
45:07
Speaker 3: as well.
45:08
Speaker 4: Nice.
45:08
Speaker 2: That's always nice to Once again, if they want to
45:11
Speaker 2: get more information, where do they go to?
45:12
Speaker 3: Eric, They go to Bigo Live dot tv, as well
45:17
Speaker 3: as searching out big Live, b I G O, L
45:19
Speaker 3: I ve E on all major op stores.
45:22
Speaker 2: Awesome, great to talk with you today. I want to
45:23
Speaker 2: thank you for coming on tech Talk Radio.
45:25
Speaker 4: Thanks so much, Handy. I want to thank Eric.
45:27
Speaker 2: Kim once again for coming on and talking to us
45:29
Speaker 2: about Bigo Live and about AI and how AI has
45:33
Speaker 2: made its way on a lot of social media platforms
45:37
Speaker 2: that people are using. The social platform of Bigo Live
45:40
Speaker 2: is content creators. Forty one percent of them have said
45:44
Speaker 2: that they are curious about AI, yet many are unsure
45:48
Speaker 2: about how it affects performance and audience relationships when they're
45:51
Speaker 2: trying to make that visual connection.
45:53
Speaker 4: Now.
45:54
Speaker 2: I have seen some social media creators relying on AI
45:59
Speaker 2: as we talked to in the discussion, but also you
46:02
Speaker 2: know there are some that are using it to just
46:04
Speaker 2: help make their workflow a little better. So again you
46:07
Speaker 2: could check that out.
46:08
Speaker 4: Bego live.
46:09
Speaker 2: Now, before we get back to the guys, I wanted
46:11
Speaker 2: to mention something and we've had Mike Nelson on the
46:14
Speaker 2: show before, of course, Mike Nelson from Rift Tracks and
46:17
Speaker 2: Mystery Science Theater. A lot of us remember watching that. Well,
46:20
Speaker 2: the good news is new episodes of Mystery Science Theater
46:23
Speaker 2: three thousand are going to be available. Four new episodes
46:27
Speaker 2: have been confirmed, and there's also Rift Tracks. Now, if
46:32
Speaker 2: you've not checked out Rift Tracks, I don't know if
46:34
Speaker 2: you've ever done this. I remember doing this with my
46:37
Speaker 2: boss when I worked for the City of Norwalk.
46:40
Speaker 4: I can't remember what.
46:41
Speaker 2: Movie it was, but we had picked up a mobile
46:44
Speaker 2: TV production truck in San Antonio, Texas, and we had
46:49
Speaker 2: to drive that truck all the way back from San
46:52
Speaker 2: Antonio to Norwalk, California. And I don't even know if
46:56
Speaker 2: they're still using that truck. It was super cool. I mean,
46:59
Speaker 2: it had you could park it, it had production switchers inside,
47:03
Speaker 2: the truck. You could then run the cables into the
47:06
Speaker 2: city council chambers and we would do you know, two
47:10
Speaker 2: three camera shoots of the city council meetings and this
47:13
Speaker 2: is you know we're talking. It would have been mid
47:15
Speaker 2: eighties that we were doing that, and then the local
47:18
Speaker 2: cable channel would go ahead and then play it over
47:21
Speaker 2: the cable network. He didn't have streaming video back then,
47:24
Speaker 2: but it was really neat. Well, on that drive, I
47:27
Speaker 2: remember me and the boss Chuck, we had to stop
47:32
Speaker 2: because it's a long trip. We stopped in Lordsburg, New Mexico,
47:36
Speaker 2: and stayed the night there and I remember it was
47:39
Speaker 2: probably after we had dinner, came up to my room,
47:43
Speaker 2: we put on the TV and we were just we
47:45
Speaker 2: were laughing. Here's this guy, a total professional city manager,
47:50
Speaker 2: you know, with me the production coordinator for the city,
47:54
Speaker 2: and we turned the volume down on some really bad
47:57
Speaker 2: movie and we were creating our own audio tracks for
48:01
Speaker 2: that and it was just absolutely hilarious to see. Well,
48:05
Speaker 2: that's when you know, riff tracks came along, and that's
48:08
Speaker 2: basically what they did with the rifftracks experiments. They would
48:12
Speaker 2: take a movie and they would provide kind of like
48:15
Speaker 2: Mystery Science Theater three thousand where they would comment, but
48:18
Speaker 2: this one, it was the entire audio was completely wiped out.
48:22
Speaker 2: They did the first episode of Lost, and I used
48:26
Speaker 2: to love that show. They did that first episode of
48:28
Speaker 2: Lost as rift tracks and it was hilarious. Now they're
48:32
Speaker 2: taking suggestions of what could be a good rift track movie,
48:37
Speaker 2: and you can make those suggestions by going to the
48:39
Speaker 2: web going to riff tracks. That's r I F F
48:43
Speaker 2: t r a X makes M S T three k
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Speaker 2: dot com. All right, I'll put it in our show
48:51
Speaker 2: notes as well, but that's r I F F t
48:54
Speaker 2: r a X makes M S T three k dot com.
49:00
Speaker 2: If you have not checked out Mystery Science Theater or
49:03
Speaker 2: you've not checked out rip tracks, it can certainly be
49:07
Speaker 2: a good laugh for you. So I want to thank Meg.
49:09
Speaker 2: Mike Nelson again years ago came on the show and
49:11
Speaker 2: talked about that. And we'll have to get that original
49:13
Speaker 2: audio back up on the website. That would be cool.
49:16
Speaker 2: Speaking of websites, here's a cool trick a website that
49:19
Speaker 2: I found that you could do this with textbehindimage dot com.
49:24
Speaker 2: If you've ever had a photo and you want to
49:25
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49:29
Speaker 2: to do. That's what's so great. There's so many websites
49:32
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49:34
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49:38
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49:54
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49:55
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49:57
Speaker 5: Hey, this is Mike Nelson from Mystery Science and rifftracks
50:01
Speaker 5: dot com and you're listening to the greatest show on
50:03
Speaker 5: the planet, tech talk Ratio.
50:07
Speaker 7: During the break, we were talking about things we've recommended
50:10
Speaker 7: for the show and things software we've been using, and
50:12
Speaker 7: we like to keep you guys up to date on
50:13
Speaker 7: the things that we're using in things you may like
50:16
Speaker 7: to use. One of those websites is alternative to, which
50:19
Speaker 7: gives you alternative options to software you may have installed
50:22
Speaker 7: on your PC to give you other options open source,
50:24
Speaker 7: et cetera. One of those things that comes up is
50:27
Speaker 7: like okay, word pad or notepad, right, Yeah, one of
50:30
Speaker 7: the alternatives is noepad plus plus, which is more beneficial
50:35
Speaker 7: for developers, coders, et cetera, because you can do coding
50:37
Speaker 7: in there and put line breaks in you know, your
50:39
Speaker 7: comments in there.
50:40
Speaker 4: Well.
50:41
Speaker 7: Noeped plus plus apparently for several months has been pushing
50:47
Speaker 7: malicious updates. Oh oh, so we've seen this before with
50:52
Speaker 7: with seacleaner, last Pass, a couple other websites, other softwares
50:57
Speaker 7: that we're pushing out malware and threat actors were apparently
51:02
Speaker 7: remained undetected for months and distributed the most updates to
51:05
Speaker 7: no paid plus plus. Uh wow that their lead developer said.
51:09
Speaker 7: The preliminary investigation into the instance show that hackers went
51:13
Speaker 7: undetected for around six months with those responsibility to be
51:16
Speaker 7: a state affiliate state group. June of twenty twenty five
51:20
Speaker 7: is when they found it.
51:22
Speaker 5: Began this this is this is scary for open source software.
51:26
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is.
51:28
Speaker 7: It is right, because all it takes is one fork
51:30
Speaker 7: to get it, you know, get compromised, and then that
51:34
Speaker 7: fork gets overwritten with some.
51:37
Speaker 2: Other and there's there's a level of trust that a
51:39
Speaker 2: lot of us have have, you know, when we get
51:43
Speaker 2: to open source stuff, and especially one like nope plus,
51:46
Speaker 2: noe pad plus plus that it's got great reviews.
51:48
Speaker 4: You say, Okay, this is gonna be good.
51:50
Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna, you know, try it, and again you have
51:52
Speaker 2: that level of trust and suddenly oops, they had a problem.
51:56
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, so uh beauma. Their developer is rec many
52:00
Speaker 7: that you updates eight point nine point one or higher
52:05
Speaker 7: just to make sure you're not getting one of those
52:07
Speaker 7: compromised versions.
52:08
Speaker 4: Right.
52:10
Speaker 7: Yeah, So this is just a little bit of a
52:11
Speaker 7: bummer when you hear about a great platform that you're using,
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Speaker 7: that you've recommended to people, and then this happens, right,
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Speaker 7: and it's just a bummer.
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Speaker 5: Imagine how much data they were able to steal.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I told you don't know, Yeah.
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Speaker 7: You don't know. There's no there's no indication on what
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Speaker 7: the extent of the data that.
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Speaker 4: Was taken is.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: That seems to be the way it goes with a
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Speaker 2: lot of these these I don't want to say digital
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Speaker 2: break ins, but basically we don't find out till much later.
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Speaker 4: You know, That's just seems to be the case. I
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Speaker 4: wanted to mention.
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Speaker 2: I brought up Anti Gravity, the A one, the drone
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Speaker 2: that the company Anti Gravity sent me over, and I
52:49
Speaker 2: looked at it and it was great. I just found
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Speaker 2: out this is only good until Monday, but there's a
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Speaker 2: fifteen percent discount if you've been thinking about looking at
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Speaker 2: A three hundred and sixty three. It uses Insta three
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Speaker 2: sixty camera technology in it. Fifteen percent discount on all
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Speaker 2: of the A one bundles. Again, this ends this coming Monday.
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Speaker 2: But they've added something and I want to I still
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Speaker 2: haven't sent it back yet, and so I'm thinking, I
53:14
Speaker 2: want to try this out. It's flight simulator, so you
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Speaker 2: put on the goggles and you're basically in a flight
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Speaker 2: sim and it's to teach you that muscle memory because
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Speaker 2: I didn't realize that there's a lot of muscle memory
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Speaker 2: when you're flying wearing goggles that you have to remember
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Speaker 2: where you're turning, how you're turning, how you're holding your hand,
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Speaker 2: the whole bit. But they've decided to add that so
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Speaker 2: that people can feel that low risk entry into getting
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Speaker 2: into you know, this type of flying will be a
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Speaker 2: little more comfortable once they finally take their drone out
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Speaker 2: and start flying it. So again, if you get that,
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Speaker 2: that's something they've just added.
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Speaker 7: They're they're doing a big push because you know, DJ
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Speaker 7: I got banned from selling stuff in the US. Yeah,
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Speaker 7: they're just took a big, big push trying to get
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Speaker 7: that market share.
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Speaker 2: Well, this one was released December fourth, and the band
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Speaker 2: went into effect December twenty fifth. So for any drone
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Speaker 2: announced app from this point on, you're if it's made overseas,
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Speaker 2: you're gonna have an issue with it. But again, hopefully
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Speaker 2: you get a chance over the weekend to test out
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Speaker 2: the flight simulator and any big plans for the weekend
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Speaker 2: for you guys, have you gonna watch the skydiving?
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Speaker 4: Yeah? It works. Really you're gonna do You're gonna do it?
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Speaker 4: I love it again.
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Speaker 5: We're going we're going back to I fly indoor skydivings.
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Speaker 4: Oh, there you go. We went last year for my birthday.
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Speaker 5: We were gonna go last week, but we weren't feeling
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Speaker 5: the greatest, so I was like, yeah, I don't really
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Speaker 5: want to do that. So no, we're going. Actually I'm sorry,
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Speaker 5: not this weekend. It's next weekend. We're going on Valentine's Day.
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Speaker 4: Oh, there you go. That'd be good, Sean. How about you.
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Speaker 7: Uh, indoor lacrosse starts this weekend.
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Speaker 4: So wow, I'll be indoor indoor napping. Yes, I'll be
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Speaker 4: indoor napping. All right. That's it for this week's Tech
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Speaker 4: Talk Radio.
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Speaker 5: I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean de Weird, and I'm Justin Lemmy.
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Speaker 5: And for the record, I do like lacrosse. We'll see
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Speaker 5: you next week, mm hmm