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Buckeyes Preparing For Michigan State, Michigan Preparing Response To Big Ten · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Welcome to a very special live episode of Buckeye Tomorrow Morning for Wednesday, November
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eighth. I'm your host, Tom Or The Michigan The Michigan State game is
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in three days, the game against Michigan in seventeen days. We're probably,
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I know, it is getting super close. The end of the college football
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regular season is getting disturbingly close already. We got to talk a little bit
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about the Buckeyes, what we learned from ohis to head coach Ryan Day,
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defensive coordinator Jim Knowles. We will probably talk a little bit of Michigan as
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well, But in case you have not already listened to it, Tony and
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I are dropping a nearly hour long episode with a full update on the Michigan
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situation in the Buckeye Weekly podcast feed on Wednesday, Tuesday afternoon, so we'll
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have funny to talk about there. There will probably be a little bit talk
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about here. We'll probably talk a little bit of do some live questions,
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but I guess Tony, let's start with some of the things we heard from
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Ryan Day as he was kind of previewing the Michigan State game, trying very
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hard not to talk about some other stuff. Let's start with the Ohio State
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Special teams. This is sort of the story du jour. It has just
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not been a consistent thing, at least in a good way. And it
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maybe has been an inconsistent thing in a consistent way for Ohio State. And
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it feels like the more they have issues and it's always something a little different.
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On Saturday with Michigan State, it was the fake punt that wasn't supposed
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to be a fake punt. But it just feels like there's just sort of
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consistently something that's just going just a little bit not right with the Ohio State
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Special teams right now. Yeah, And one of the things Ryan Day said
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is that all of the coaches are involved in special teams, so they all
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need to be better at it. But when you have one coordinator, obviously
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he needs to be better at it as well. I'm still a little confused
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as to exactly what the exact breakdown was of the fake punk because it wasn't
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a fake punt, but Jesse Murco does have the option of running if something
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is open, but the communication to him wasn't good enough from the person giving
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him the communication. My assumption would be Parker Fleming or Parker Fleming proxy to
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Jessemerco. So I don't know if it was. You have the option to
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run, but make sure only if it's this look, and definitely not when
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running to the left, which they were doing. Running to the right is
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much easier to do and to kick, and so running to the left you're
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not doing it as fast because it's just a different set of steps. But
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what exactly in your opinion or maybe you've got the full picture, it was
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he told too fake? Was he told not to or just I think mainly
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he was told not told to not If you know what I'm saying, don't
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do what Donnie, don't. The emphasis was not put out there enough,
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like, hey, don't run on this one because you've got it's not the
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look you're looking for, right, And I you know, Ryan Day has
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been very vague about this, and you know you get the sense he doesn't
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want to, you know, hanging someone out to dry on it. It
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was just the call itself. You know that wasn't a call. But you
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know, the idea to run left is weird because Jesse Murco when he punts,
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rolls right. So as soon as you start going left, everyone's alarm.
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Bells are going off. You know, this is not what he normally
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does. Something not usual is here. You're trying to make a routine play
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look not routine. And you know this is purely a guess. And I
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haven't even gone back to watch to know if there's any semblance of truth to
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this. But last year Jesse Murco rolled right against Rutgers and just kind of
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kept rolling because Rutgers had shown a look that was sort of an automatic for
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them. Did they have you know, more people on the right side of
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the field to anticipate that, And therefore because you saw more people in the
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right of the field and you wet left. I mean, I don't know.
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I haven't gone back to I have not rewatched that portion of the game
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right now, So that's the only thing that I can sort of think of
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that might be. You know, hey, you know, if you have
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if you have a numbered advantage in a certain spot, you know, maybe
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you automatically go. And it wasn't communicated to him that, like, hey,
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we just got to you know, you got to punt it, because
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that would make sense where you situationally would be willing to do that. Maybe,
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but because of the fact that you have to say defense was playing pretty
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well, and you don't want to give records at field there you just punt
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and play field position. But that wasn't communicated. I mean, this is
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me connecting a whole bunch of dots that may not even be on the same
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piece of paper. But you know, that's that's the closest I can come
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to an explanation either way. At some point there's a pattern of Hey,
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you keep having the these little snaffers, and maybe it's not all you know,
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it may be a different thing every time, but at some point there's
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got to be a commonality there too. If you go back and watch the
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video of Ryan Dai's interview, and for those who are watching it streaming,
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like I think you can see the frustration. Hear the frustration, see the
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frustration. He saw it after the game, and then I think you saw
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it again in this one and talking about how coaches are evaluated every day and
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he watches Parker Fleming closely, but you just you hear the frustration and it's
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not unlike the frustration going back to talking about Kerry Comb's defense as a coordinator
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and things like that, where you can't hide the frustration and hope gives way
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to frustration, like, but the running game, hope has always been above
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frustration. And it's like, we'll get there, we'll get there. We've
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got the players here. The frustration not that there's no hope, but the
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frustration is just the language that he is speaking right now. Yeah, and
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I mean to draw another parallel to carry Combs. He was asked about,
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you know, hey, you made a change with a coordinator a couple of
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years ago when Carry Combs was just not happening, like the after the Oregon
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game in twenty twenty one, it was like, very clearly, this ain't
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it and made a change. Does not sound like that's likely to happen in
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this case. In terms of the special teams, you know, we'll see,
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we'll see what it looks like after the season. I think they are
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probably going to be looking to get James Laurneitis in the you know, ten
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coaches, ten countable coaches, so you know that that seems like a fairly
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obvious avenue to pursue. But I did hear on the radio with Dion Sanders
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taking play calling away from Sean Lewis and giving it to somebody else who is
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not one of the ten staffers. I guess Tim Brewster there recruiting Dynamo and
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Tenan's coach is now no longer one of the accountable ten. So there's the
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you've sent somebody with the way the Seawann Lewis to Pat Churmer transition went for
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Colorado, I'm not sure I would be following that exact roadmap. But in
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terms of yistants aside, yeah, uh, we've got to talk a little
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bit about guys coming back from injury. We never get. We do have
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a super chat from Treasure to Tour. What's up Kevin, Tom and Tommy
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And I just want to say with all the recent events going on with Michigan
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scandal, it's easy to lose focus. With that being said, we definitely
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beat Michigan this year hashtag battle testing. They are Ohio State is certainly more
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battle tested right now than Michigan is. That will change to some degree this
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weekend with the Wolverines going to Penn State. We'll see who all gets on
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that airplane and gets off that airplane and is on the sideline and at Penn
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State. But well, Tom, like I wrote in Michigan Monday, people
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who think that Michigan hasn't been battling in adversity. Are crazy the last two
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weeks being without your top sign stealer. That's not easy for anybody, and
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people aren't thinking about that. So they've been through their adversity. They'll get
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better because of it and they'll be ready. Plus, they had to play
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without their head coach and offensive coordinator earlier in the season, which is also
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also a thing. And if it happens again, and it might be through
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it. We got to see who Ohio State is going to be playing with
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and without this weekend. Because there are a number of guys whose status is
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sort of up in the air, it sounded probable. I guess I would
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say more encouraging for on the Denzel Burke side of things than the Length and
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Ransom side. Still some questions in terms of Tommy Eigenberg, Still some questions
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in terms of Kate Stover. Where do things stand with all of those guys
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coming into this weekend's game. Yeah, I assume. I don't even think
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Kate Stewarts brought up, so I assume he'll be ready because he was on
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call. He could have been brought in in an emergency. Denzel Burg said,
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Ryan Day said, they're looking to get him practicing this week, expecting
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good practice length and ransom. They'll know more later in the week, So
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I would expect him to stay, to not be playing this week, and
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he'll see if denzel Berg has a good week and whether or not they want
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to give him the one more week. And you know he could have gone
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he was on call. Yeah, but they'll hold him back. Tommy Aikenberg,
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Ryan Day and Jim Knowles both seem to think like if he can't play,
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he will play, But it's up to the training staff because, as
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Jim Knowles said, Tommy Aickenberg would go and play with no arm and so
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right now he's dealing with a wrist elbow type thing. And we know he
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played with two broken thumbs last year. So he'll play through whatever. But
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it's up to the staff, the High State staff to say no, no,
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Tommy, you're not gonna do it. And they'll see how he goes
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this week and how he looks and what he's dealing with and they'll know more
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then. And Josh Proker was the other person that was a little bit up
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in the air. It sounded that sounded encouraging. I mean, given the
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fact that he was out for interviews after the game on Saturday, we saw
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we're assuming it was gonna sound encouraging. That sounded like that's you know,
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we'll see if he plays this weekend. But that does not That didn't strike
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me as is there's real serious concerns longer term. No, I would agree,
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and they even just pretty much said he's going to play it, but
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then also added a little monitor it. You have to throw that in after
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a guy takes a bump to the head. And this is not a Michigan
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State team that's likely to really stress you down the field in the past game.
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You know, we said much the same thing with Rutgers, and Rutgers
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really didn't stress them much down the field in the past game either. So
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you know, if you were going to sit Ransom and or Proctor and or
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Burke for a week, even as a precautionary thing, you might think about
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doing it with you know, an eye on the longer term. Longer term
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being seventeen days away, right because right now, Ohio State is hitting the
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stretch of quarterbacks. They're in the middle of the stretch of quarterbacks and offenses
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that Michigan got to feast on. Now. We've talked about how they're not
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seeing any kind of threats offensively. That's where Ohio State is right now with
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the Rutgers, Michigan State, Minnesota. Kyle McCord thought that was There was
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an interesting, interesting conversation about Colm Accord. He graded it would have graded
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out as a champion if not for the one bad throw that was the that
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was intercepted. That was not a bad decision, it was bad. They
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talked about it in terms of layering basically got to get it over. The
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first guy was it was the right read, not a good throw. But
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you know, with Ryan, with Tom Accord, with the offensive line,
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with the running game, it feels like Ryan Day is genuinely encouraged by the
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positive trends that he's seeing. Yeah, and the bread zone was better this
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past week and that's going to be continue to be a focus. Third downs
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will continue to be a focus. But was asked, you know, talking
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about the scoring is down there, like I don't know, thirty two points
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a game when last year there at forty four, And he did say,
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you know, we are trying to establish to run more than we have in
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the past, and so that takes time, and that pays dividends later on
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and doesn't pay as many. But if you get it done right, then
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you can pretty much beat anybody once you've got that running game going. So
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they're they're trying to get things done now, but also for later on down
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the road with that running game, so you know, and the more you
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are able to run it, and the better your quarterback is going to be
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able to play to the play action and find guys and so there's there's some
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method to it. But I do think we all expected a more explosive offense.
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He certainly is expected a more explosive offense. But if it's you know,
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if you're constantly improving and building towards something, you can take a couple
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of twenty one to ten wins down, you know, in September October,
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as long as it's leading to where you need to be in November. And
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right now, everything offensively is trending up and getting better, But you know,
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how much can it get to be? Can by the end of the
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season? Can this be where most Brand A offenses have been? And does
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even need to be? When you've got the best defense Friday has had since
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twenty nineteen, and I think the answer to the first question is no,
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But I think the answer to the second question is it doesn't necessarily need to
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be, because yeah, they're down whatever twelve points a game or ten points
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a game or whatever it is right now, but the defense is probably at
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least a touchdown to ten points better than it has been in previous seasons as
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well, So you're ending up. You know, it doesn't look the way
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it has, but the results have been broadly the same. Winning a game
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twenty what thirty five to sixteen is just the same as winning a game forty
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five to twenty six. It's the same margin, it's the same everything.
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It looks a little different, but the end result is the same, and
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they do continue to, you know, be trending in a positive direction.
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I don't get the sens there's any real concern about the defense other than just
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the health of the defense. And even the health of the defense you asked
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Ryan Day about, you know, the upside of you know, hey,
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you obviously don't you want your guys healthy, But if you don't have your
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guys healthy, well, some of those younger guys are getting a lot of
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opportunities, and that can pay dividends not only on the field down the road,
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but also in recruiting. Yeah, last year we made a big deal
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about how last year they started five different corners, five different safeties. This
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year they have started five different safeties, four different corners, So they're like
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on that same track, but the results have been much different. And I
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asked Ryan Day about that and he said, well, the recruiting has helped,
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so the talent is better. Getting Davis and Iguanos and out of the
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portal isself, Jermaine Matthews being a guy that can start and do what he
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did is has helped. Everybody being a year older, Denzel Burke being a
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second year or third year here thirty year as the starter. But the recruiting
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aspect lifting everybody up. And I think they're just better than they were last
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year. Not even just the knowledge, but talent overall is better than it
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was a year ago. And that was key. And then I also asked
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him, you know, three years in a row you've had a quarterback start
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as a freshman, do you you know, how do you use that and
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recruiting? He said, it's big because recruits see that and they make sure
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that the recruits see it, and we can point to Denzel Burke, Jy
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R. Brown last year, Jermaine Matthews, but Travon Henderson started nearly the
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entire season twenty twenty one as a true freshman, so they could point to
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different guys and different opportunities, sunny styles last year in the in the playoff
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game where if you are ready and recruits all believe they'll be ready. Yeah,
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so it's a this could be you and they're not necessarily lying. They're
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not lying because it's up to the player. And we're seeing that with like
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Jermaine Matthews is going to be special. He's already pretty darn good and extremely
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confident. And that's just one guy. Malie Cartford getting that start against Youngstown
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State and then getting yanked but then not letting that get to him and then
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stepping up in a big moment this past weekend and Kay Stokes Jim Knowles has
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said that he's had like his best few weeks of practiced. Light bulb has
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clicked on for him as a true sophomore. Now, last year had a
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big spring, everybody was big on him and then kind of just got quiet,
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and basically Nol said that He's just got a lot of guys in front
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of him. And I think for Stokes, he's probably also seen there is
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an opportunity and if I am ready, like nobody stays healthy all year long,
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and that you know, if you could have learned that last year,
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you're learning that now. And he stepped up as well well, and you
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go through all the different position groups and quarterback Kyle McCord started in twenty twenty
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one as a true freshman. He started the Akron game. Dllan Hayden last
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year running back started the Maryland game. You mentioned. Travian Henderson obviously basically
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played the whole season in twenty twenty one as essentially a starter. Carnell Tate
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this year at wide receivery. I don't think he started, but he's been
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playing and earning a bigger role. And you know, the trajectory there is
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very clear. Tight end is the spot where we don't you think I can
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think of someone Johnnie Thurmon was asked about today, and you know he's still
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a little bit of a work in progress. But offensive line, you've seen
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they use that buffalo package. You saw Donovan Jackson start there a couple of
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years ago as a true freshman. You've seen at least place extensively there as
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a true freshman. Luke Montgomery has been doing that this year. I mean
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all around the offense and on the defensive side of the ball as well.
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You're seeing guys start, you know, start or play increasing roles as true
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freshman and even on the defensive side of the ball, defensive line, you're
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seeing some of those younger guys. Caden McDonald you've seen taken some snaps in
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the interior that defensive line. A lot of the second year guys, Kayden
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Curry hooting out of Jackson Hero Canoe. Those guys are all playing bigger role.
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So it is you know, if you are ready, you are going
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to play. Speaking of being ready, Tony, it is time to talk
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about celebrity boxing hypotheticals. I did not receive the same pr email that one
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of the TV folks in town received, but apparently there is a line out
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for a hypothetical boxing matchup between Jim Harball and Ryan Day. Ryan Day was
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a plus one hundred and fifty thousand to answer a question about it. He
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did not, unsurprisingly, just just was like not even remotely interested in participating
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in any kind of conversation about that understandably, So Tony, Ryan Day,
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Jim Harball, who you got, Well, I think I think you got
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to take the younger guy. You gotta take Ryan Day, like he's the
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angrier person right now. And so I think that that helps. That might
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be that might be a steep competition this week, but in fact, like
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when it is celebrity boxing technique, it's out of it goes goes away.
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So I think anger does help you in celebrity boxing because you can just wail,
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like, you can just go like there's there's no ducking, diving,
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dodging, dipping or diving dodging in there. It's just you're just swinging.
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So I think Ryan Day would I don't I did not get the email.
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I assumed Day would be the favorite in that. I'm sadden that that that
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was not put forth as part of the question as well. And just so
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you know, you're minus one fifty and you know, oh, Kevin,
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Kevin has the old Ryan Day minus two twenty, Jim Harball plus one fifty
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five, Okay, Brian Da minus two twenty, Harball plus one fifty five.
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I mean, there's not a lot of value there on either of them.
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But you know, I think the day being fifteen issues younger that has
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to play into it. I don't I can't remember if one of is like
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noticeably taller than the other. I don't think so. Harball might be an
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inch or two taller, but you know, you probably don't have a substantial
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reach advantage there. I think you gotta go with the I mean, he's
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also full of milk. I mean, he's all full of milk. You
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gotta wonder how long he can he can milk and steak. That makes you
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LOGI it's, uh, yeah, you gotta punch steaks. You can't eat
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steaks. So yeah, I think you gotta. You know, the biggest
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gap there feels like it's the age. So I think I think I'm with
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you. You gotta you gotta side with the age, Tony. With the
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way things are going, could you could you definitively tell me that we're not
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gonna end up with some sort of boxing something. Well, it depends on
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what j K what the JAK has to say. Maybe that's how they'll solve
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it. All right, So let's do we have a super chat. We
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do, it's directed more towards me, Steven Piper is there a go fund
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Me page or something for more Big Meat Kickoff episodes. I've got the fever
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and the only prescription is more Kevin Noon. Thank you, Stephen. That
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sounds like a very serious medical condition. I'm working on it. I would
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welcome a go find me page, but we'll bring on my promise. They're
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coming, all right. There will be more Big Noon Kickoff, Big Meat
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Kickoff for everybody out there. And the best way to get those is just
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to continue to pester and ask Kevin to do it, and then he'll be
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like guilt ridden into it. And the best place to ask him is on
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the huddle board presented by Jeff Ruby, speaking of steaks. Delicious Delicious Steaks
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to all of our members and they tend to start threads about all of us
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at various times. Kevin, Kevin just had a birthday fread yesterday. Indeed,
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he did Happy birthday to our special boy facts only. I just want
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to clarify, milk makes you love the steak does not? Out there?
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Yeah, we look, do we do we have questions or do Okay?
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Well, little let's start. Let's take some questions. Michigan fans are now
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playing Urban is scouting for Ohio State in his gig at Fox. Okay,
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so on a scale of and I'm going to be very careful with my words,
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the dumbest things I've ever heard, that's only like a three and a
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half. But it has been a pretty steep competition the last few weeks,
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not just on the Michigan side of things either. So if you are not
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affiliated with the school and you have another job, and that job is to
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go to the place, like that's that's okay, you can do that.
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Is he is he on the sidelines wearing you know? Is he videotaping everything?
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Is he being paid by Ohio State to be there? Is he?
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Because I mean, this is this is one of these things where it's like
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you can you can see stuff just sort of getting thrown out there right now,
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and it's just kind of like, all right, I've just I've been
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I've been liberally using the mute buttons so they don't have to so I don't
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have to like create like a quick key to write the word more on on
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Twitter. I don't know. Maybe it was the Oregon twenty twenty one game
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when Fox was at the game, and you know, Irvin Myers down there
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was down there watching on the sideline with other like that's that's that's where you'll
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find the TV people a lot of times if they want to go watch it
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on the sideline, they will the studio people. And I did not see
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any hadsets or anything like that. I will say, though, I don't
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want to give into conspiracy theory, but which university, which major football program
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has more people nationally scattered around the college football media sphere at the Ohio State.
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So what I'm saying, I'm not calling in a vast network of spies,
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but kirkirk Street and Desmond Howard frequently traveling together. Should both programs just
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get the death penalty? I mean celebrity boxing. Don't say death penalty.
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Don't say death around Desmond Howard you will get fired and c Doba death penalty.
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Okay, to be clear, yeah, no, I think that is
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probably not the most likely explanation for what Urban Meyer is doing on the sidelines.
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I will tell you I was at the Penn State game. I was
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down on the sidelines and shooting, and Urban Meyer at one point was standing
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next to me talking to his son, Nate was eating a subway sandwich.
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I did not hear him talking at all about the signs going on. And
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then at one point there was a kickoff that was coming pretty much directly towards
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me, and he reached his hand out and saved it. So, you
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know, I think he may be doing things other than stealing signs. He
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may be saving lives. And are you eating sandwiches? Are you st saying
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the football hit him while he was making a sign. He was demonstrating a
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signal and then the ball hit his hand. I mean, I mean,
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I wasn't not saying that. I just I just want to know how far
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this goes up? Next one Thomas, where Zach knot beat Georgia and Bama
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in Oregon and Texas and FSU probably not ones that. Yeah, if you
25:27
put together an all star team, I would have that team a substantial favorite
25:32
over Ohio State. I mean, is there I don't know that there's any
25:34
team on that list that I would definitively say Ohio State can't beat that team.
25:40
No, I would agree, And it's funny. The twenty nineteen season
25:45
with LSU Ohio State and Clemson. Like any of those three teams you put
25:52
them this year is like, wow, good luck beating that team. Like,
25:53
are there there There are no teams like that this year. I don't
25:56
know that there were last year. So I don't think there's anybody that has
26:00
played so well you're like, well, good luck with them. Now there
26:03
might be a team that plays so well these last four weeks, You're like,
26:06
I don't want to have anything to do with them. And that's kind
26:08
of the way it goes every year. But from what I've seen so far,
26:12
like, nobody is untouchable. There's a bunch of one beatens. Nobody's
26:15
untouchable. Well, and you go back to the years Ohio State has won
26:18
the national championship in the past, and you know people are looking at oh
26:22
boy, they were trailing records at halftime, this team has no chance at
26:25
the national championship. Go back to this portion of the two thousand and two
26:29
season and they were losing six to three against Purdue on the road until two
26:36
minutes left in the game. They went to what double overtime against Illinois twenty
26:41
fourteen, their penultimate home game was they were losing to Indiana in the third
26:47
quarter. They in their final game were very very close with Michigan into the
26:53
fourth quarter, and you know, and then sometimes stuff changes. It is
27:00
you just got to get in. If you get into that, if you
27:03
get into the playoff, anything can happen. You just you gotta at that
27:07
point, you just gotta win two games, asked TCU. Asked TCU.
27:11
Yes, that went really well for them for a while. Super Chat David
27:15
green Shield any truth of the fact that Scallion relocated to Arizona, probably in
27:21
the Henry Hill liked witness protection program. Do you think do you think he's
27:26
complaining about the the pasta sauce out there. I don't know if as he
27:33
relocated out to Arizona, perhaps like to Maine or New Hampshire. I had
27:41
to I had to adjust. I didn't want to bring in that states and
27:45
just you know what, thank you for the super chats. Yes, there's
27:49
an opportunity. There's a chance that he has definitely relocated wherever. And that's
27:56
the story that people are going to continue to try to get, like,
27:57
come on to count just give us your side. And I think one way
28:03
to maybe make that happen is for more of these little bits and pieces to
28:07
come out to whereas, like, you know, I just need to clear
28:08
all of the air. But I still think he's going to be a guy
28:12
that doesn't throw Michigan under the bus until they completely completely Like I don't know
28:18
if they blame him for everything and just pin all of this on him.
28:23
Can a guy that can? Can a guy just accept that the room was
28:29
working on Okay, So we need to we need to address the vacuum situation.
28:33
And if you want to hear Tony and I talk about we had a
28:36
bunch of people in our mentions this morning. It's like, oh, are
28:38
you hiding it from the story about Jim Harble and not being directly connected to
28:44
know. Sometimes we're busy. Sometimes life happens. We have an hour long
28:48
show about Michigan, specifically about Michigan coming out of the Bookie Weekly podcast feed
28:52
that'll be out shortly after we're done with this. Uh, extremely exciting breaking
28:57
news from the Wall Street Journal. I'm just gonna read this verbatim. You
29:03
know how people love it when I read verbatim. So, property records indicate
29:08
that Stallions purchased a four hundred and eighty five thousand dollars house near the Michigan
29:11
campus in n Arbor in March twenty twenty two, shortly before his stint with
29:15
the Marines ended. Here we go, Ready, brace yourselves. Not long
29:21
after he moved in that spring, dozens of old vacuum cleaners appeared on his
29:25
front porch. The unsightly stash peeved neighbors and sparked the interest of the Homeowners
29:29
Association, which suits Stallions for allegedly operating an appliance refurbishing business out of his
29:33
home in violation of its bylaws. Salliens fought back and represented himself in Washingtonhawk
29:38
County Trial Court, and the letter written in response to a summons in October
29:41
twenty twenty two, he wrote, quote, I suspect that whoever has chosen
29:45
to sue me either one it doesn't like the fact that I am a veteran,
29:48
or two is a Michigan State fan and knows I am a Michigan football
29:51
coach and wants to draw my attention away close quote. He had one Spartans
29:55
fan in mind to quote someone named Jeff Close quote who lived down the street
29:59
and had a s attending Michigan State quote almost done here, he uncomfortably questioned
30:03
me about Michigan football and what goes on in our building, giving me a
30:07
bad feeling about him. He definitely seemed like someone who wants to distract me
30:11
with unnecessary, time consuming things like this close quote. Stallions wrote, Tony,
30:22
you have I think a well deserved reputation for a level of creativity that
30:32
you know you'll come up with these crazy analogies or whatever. I want you
30:37
to come up with something right now on the spot that like three weeks from
30:41
now is like, no, that's too crazy to possibly be true about this
30:47
story. Well about just to be clear about Connor Stallion's and the Michigan story
30:52
on the whole, not specifically his adventures in vacuum maintenance. You no,
30:56
I think I think THEA is the way to go with this. And as
31:02
we find out more and more about perhaps counters Stallions, maybe d h u
31:07
A finds out more and more like hey, why is there a giraffe in
31:11
the backyard, and then it's like you can't have giraffe grooming in the backyard,
31:17
or a giraffe husband rea, or like this is not even you know,
31:19
are you even licensed for a giraffe? And so then it'll be like
31:23
you think the draft is least of it. You should see what's in the
31:26
basement. Now, I got it. I got the hippo when it was
31:30
a baby, and now it's just it's I can't get it out of the
31:34
basement. We have we have seen, we have seen related stories in college
31:40
football in the past. Tony, I have two words for you. The
31:42
second one is assassin. The first one is poule. Are you raising your
31:51
hand because you're stressing her? Because we have a super chat Omar Austin and
31:57
the head. Since Kevin is the that holds his biscuit together, do you
32:01
guys prefer him being grape strawberry or apple butter? Hashtag don't ever say apple
32:08
butter and reference to Kevin Dune. Yeah, I'm sorry. I was throwing
32:15
up in my ears. How are you making biscuits? That jam is what's
32:19
holding them together? Don't don't you pull it apart and then you put it
32:22
back together. So if you if you took us apart, if you created
32:25
an issue, and then that's very fitting. Yeah, because we were just
32:30
fine and then Kevin created an issue. By I'm a I'm a red jam
32:38
more than a grape jam, like I could be strawberry or cherry or whatever,
32:43
all kinds. But also if the only thing there is grape jelly or
32:47
I'm not an apple butter person, I don't. I don't understand what it
32:51
is. We used to have back back in back in my home area,
32:54
there's an apple butter festival, and I did not care for that, Like
32:57
I don't, I don't know what you're doing over there. Was there enough
33:00
beer there? No, no, there's plenty of beer, but I just
33:02
don't dapple butter. I'm not for it. Then again, from Omar Austin
33:07
tom or the Sir Richard Attenborough of Ohio State Hoobal, Sir Richard Attenborough,
33:12
I'm not doing an accent. I'm just not and we're just going to leave
33:15
it there. But yes, it is there is It is turning into more
33:22
of a you know, wild Kingdom type of show. I feel like,
33:29
over the span of what has been a mighty, mighty peculiar college football season,
33:37
you know, do we end up on the African savannah at some point
33:40
before the season is over? I mean, at this point I can't say
33:44
no. Chasing down some leads and some witnesses. By the way, the
33:47
mutual Oma Animal Kingdom The greatest clip ever from that show is Marlon Perkins walking
33:52
through a river with a giant anaconda around him, carrying it to wherever,
33:58
and he steps into a and he goes underwater, and he's down there for
34:01
like, I don't know, twenty seconds. You're like, I just watched
34:06
Marlon Perkins die on PBS. All right, ORP too, A real one.
34:08
Yeah, but he can be popped back up because no anakanda is gonna
34:12
stop him. All right, we're here at thirty five minutes. Let me
34:17
get in here, Mark Beetter's. I know they don't record injuries. What's
34:22
your opinion on Acord's ankle in the Cord's ankle seems like it's just gonna,
34:30
you know, unless it gets unless it gets worse, it's going to get
34:31
better. And that's I mean, well, he's he's going to be receiving
34:36
treatment all week unless that gets exacerbated in some way. It should be better
34:42
every week. Will it be one hundred percent by the time Michigan rolls around.
34:46
We don't know specifically the nature of it, but I mean, if
34:49
you've ever had an ankle sprain of any kind, it's just it's one of
34:52
those things that does not heal overnight. So I don't know that he's one
34:58
hundred percent for the Michigan game. But you know, unless it unless it
35:00
gets exacerbated in some way, it probably is substantially better by the time that
35:06
game rolls around. Yeah, but it can be tweaked at any point.
35:08
That's That's the other thing. Kind of like JT. Barrett's knee in twenty
35:12
seventeen. He dealt with that all season long. He didn't really know about
35:15
it, but when it finally went out for good against Michigan, yeah,
35:20
you really had to deal with it. Then. Yeah, that's a goal,
35:27
having the mindset of letting this run its course and having such a big
35:30
platform. He says, he's about the integrity of the sport, but if
35:34
Michigan vacates, wins, asterisk suck, you have to let it play out
35:39
in some sense. Well, yeah, and and what does play out mean?
35:45
I mean, he he seems like he's more of the let the NCAA
35:49
solve it, and that's that's not a unreal you know, that's not a
35:53
completely unreasonable position. I think you also, you're dealing with the I mean,
36:00
you're dealing with the Big ten, the Big ten has a way to
36:07
let it play out to a certain degree and to the point where you're following
36:09
your own due process, because that was a phrase at Santa Onno Shoes in
36:14
his letter the Michigan president to Tony Petit last week before they had a meeting.
36:19
You know, you gotta let the due process play out. The Big
36:22
Ten's due process is playing out right now. The Big Ten's due process is
36:25
okay. Monday, the Big Ten notified Michigan of the allegations. Michigan's going
36:29
to have about forty eight hours to response, So that gets you to Wednesday
36:32
mid day ish. Then either Tony Pettiti can say I bless you with a
36:38
two game suspension, or he can go to the j GEK and they can
36:42
evaluate the entire case, the case against Michigan, the statements in you know,
36:45
Michigan's rebuttal documents, all that kind of stuff, and they can figure
36:51
out do you want to do more than that? That is the due process,
36:53
which is laid out in the in the Big Ten Sportsmanship guidelines. So
37:00
you know, you can't you can't say that they're not following due process because
37:02
that is the prescribed process for the Big Ten to do. It. So
37:07
you might not like the results, but that doesn't mean you didn't get your
37:10
due process that you as an institution agreed to in advance. Yeah, that's
37:15
why my complaint with my beef with Joe Platt is just like it is being
37:21
it is playing out. The Big Ten is looking at it. They've got
37:23
information from the NCAAA, they have talked, They know what the NCAA has
37:28
to this point. So now the Big Ten has that as well, and
37:30
they have what they also they may have been sharing back with the NCAA.
37:35
So the process is ongoing and it is playing out. So I don't know
37:38
why what he thinks isn't other than the fact that you're not just letting the
37:43
NCAA handle this super tad from omar Askin and the heck, if you had
37:51
to witness Jim Harbor being eaten alive on safari narrated by Amber, would you
37:58
rather see him eaten by be or see a toothless lion? Thanks for upping
38:06
the budgets. So, hippopotamuses. Hippopotami, if I were going to be
38:13
specific, they are vegetarians. They do kill more humans than any other animal
38:21
I think in Africa, possibly the world, but they are vegetarians, so
38:25
he would not be eaten alive by hippopotamus, a hyena. I mean,
38:31
I think you're bringing Desmond Howard back into things and then a toothless lie.
38:37
I mean, that's just gonna take forever. I don't know, I don't
38:40
want to watch that for long. Thing is, I would go so far
38:44
as to say I don't want to watch that ever, but within the premise
38:46
of the question, the question you have to answer, it's a super chat.
38:52
I do enjoy what I follow, like the Cincinnati Zoo and the Columbus
38:55
Zoo on Twitter and some of the things they'll do as they'll show, Hey,
39:00
we just fed our hippo a pumpkin, and it's it's delightful to watch
39:05
a pumpkin just smash the nash on a pumpkin. So I'm gonna have to
39:08
go with hippo. I know you say the vegetarian, but I would say
39:14
some once you get that taste of human flesh, Tom, once you go
39:22
all right, Phrambi, all right, So I know we have got to
39:24
get out of here. Let's yeah, we've got to get out of here.
39:27
So a couple of quick things we just want to touch on if you
39:30
want to hear our thoughts on the let's see the Jim Harbaugh didn't know the
39:36
Hey, Ryan Day's family, There's no evidence whatsoever linking Ryande's family to literally
39:39
anything, the case against Michigan, the idea, you know, the Richard
39:46
Thesi dot com reporting on the the hey, everyone else does it, just
39:53
not in the way that's illegal. All of that stuff. You can find
39:57
that on the Buckeye Weekly podcast feed on one stay afternoon. You can also
40:00
that'll be on our YouTube channel a little later on Wednesday afternoon as well.
40:04
We also we'll get there, Kevin. We have a super chat Tuesday night.
40:08
Sorry I think this, I think I said Wednesday. Everything is happening
40:10
Tuesday. Tuesday night, Kevin and TONI and I will have our usual college
40:16
football playoff rankings reveal live reaction show that'll start at six fifty five pm.
40:22
That'll be on YouTube dot com slash Pucket Huddle as well. Kevin, we
40:24
get a super chat. We do, and we have we need to get
40:28
be done about three minutes. But this is a big one, the B
40:30
and B Graphics super Chat. Would you make it the ap article release yesterday?
40:35
Okay, I think also with the s I won by Richard Johnson.
40:40
Yeah, and we talked about that for about a half an hour on the
40:45
show upcoming, that she'll be able to find. But briefly, Tom,
40:50
I think the this this feels like it's coming from the Michigan side of things,
40:53
to hey, look where else would it come from? Obviously, I
40:57
mean, this is information that was given to Michigan, and I've seen other
41:00
people saying that that information was tried to was attempted to be given to other
41:05
national reporters and they didn't do anything with it, and so aha. But
41:08
this is just a thing where you're trying to show that other people have stolen
41:14
signs. And throughout this whole thing, it's not been about stealing signs.
41:16
It's been about the act how the signs were acquired. And also in the
41:22
SI article is the quote that go ahead, schools, I was going to
41:28
let you do it, but this is reading out loud has really turned to
41:30
in turn to my beat, schools. Sharing signal information is not uncommon in
41:37
college football, multiple sources and the coaching profession told SI, nor is it
41:40
against NCAA rules. Quote every week you call your friends and other staffs and
41:44
say, hey, what you got on our next opponent, our current coach
41:47
with the big ten experience said everyone does it? Who cares? So,
41:52
you know, I mean that's this is one of these things where it's being
41:57
presented as look, this is this is degrees of gray, except if one
42:00
thing is on the side of this is not legal and one thing is on
42:06
the side of this is legal, then those are pretty different shades of gray
42:13
to me. And you know, you can you can have the argument,
42:15
and lord knows people online are trying that well, this is you know,
42:19
really there's not much of a difference. It just happens to be that one
42:22
of these things is illegal and one of these things is legal, and it's
42:23
like, yes, that's that's and that's why we're here. Is essentially the
42:30
short version of that. But I mean, this is we keep hearing about,
42:35
you know, boy, big bombshells are going to come, and the
42:37
bombshells have not scattered much dirt the first couple that have been going on.
42:44
No, if this is the start of it, I don't know if this
42:45
is just starting low and building. But both of those articles also had like
42:51
the answers inside embedded in and that this actually isn't a big deal. Yeah,
42:55
so we will. If you want to hear much more from about that,
42:59
you can find that and the Buckeye Weekly podcast feed a little later on
43:01
on Tuesday afternoon, and of course at YouTube dot com slash Puckey Huddle as
43:05
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43:14
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43:17
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43:22
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43:28
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43:30
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43:32
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