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- 0:01Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on? My people? How are
- 0:18Speaker 1: we doing? I'm John this Three and Out and uh,
- 0:21Speaker 1: hopefully you guys are all enjoying your summer, living life,
- 0:24Speaker 1: having a good time, working, doing whatever you do, because
- 0:28Speaker 1: today we're having a good time. Because Baker Mayfield had
- 0:30Speaker 1: some comments, Signetti add some comments, we'll react to it.
- 0:33Speaker 1: All social media just crushing guys left and right. Obviously
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- 1:00Speaker 1: And let's dive into the story of the day. I
- 1:03Speaker 1: did want to start with Baker Mayfield, who went extremely
- 1:06Speaker 1: viral on Thursday morning for a press conference in which
- 1:12Speaker 1: he gave his thoughts, opinions, and his stance on the
- 1:17Speaker 1: situation going on with his contract, his status with the Buccaneers,
- 1:22Speaker 1: and how he feels about I would say currently his
- 1:26Speaker 1: status in the organization. But before I give some opinions
- 1:30Speaker 1: on it, why don't we And I know a lot
- 1:32Speaker 1: of you, I'm sure either saw snippets. Maybe watch the
- 1:35Speaker 1: whole couple or listen to the whole couple of minutes.
- 1:37Speaker 1: I thought, you know what, let's just play Baker Mayfield's
- 1:40Speaker 1: comments just in case anyone missed it, or if you
- 1:42Speaker 1: were just kind of distracted while he was talking, and
- 1:45Speaker 1: then I will react to what he said. Here's Baker.
- 1:48Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, obviously, I've told you guys, have been
- 1:50Speaker 2: pretty upfront and honest about my feelings about Tampa at
- 1:53Speaker 2: being home for now. Our family were raising kids here,
- 1:57Speaker 2: We love it here. I wanted the deal done and
- 2:01Speaker 2: set the deadline and told them it was going to
- 2:03Speaker 2: be all ball after that, and I did mean that.
- 2:05Speaker 2: And I don't know if they thought I was just
- 2:07Speaker 2: gonna take some of the offers that they gave. But
- 2:11Speaker 2: I'm at the point of my career and understanding what
- 2:14Speaker 2: I've brought to this franchise. One I'm very very thankful
- 2:17Speaker 2: for the chance they gave me. Do not get me
- 2:19Speaker 2: wrong on that. But I've also know I really know
- 2:22Speaker 2: what I've brought to this franchise leadership wise and even playwise.
- 2:26Speaker 2: It's been some of the best years of my career,
- 2:29Speaker 2: and I think it's only going to trend upwards. Just
- 2:31Speaker 2: being comfortable and feeling that so disappointing in that regard
- 2:34Speaker 2: to to not have, you know, to feel disrespect a
- 2:37Speaker 2: little bit, And that's really the disappointing part, to feel
- 2:41Speaker 2: undervalued after you know, thinking you've earned it. This is
- 2:45Speaker 2: not a poor me things. There's a lot other people
- 2:48Speaker 2: that have it way worse off. But I can sit
- 2:50Speaker 2: here and look at other quarterbacks and peers and evaluate
- 2:54Speaker 2: myself based on that and put myself in certain categories
- 2:57Speaker 2: that I deserve to be compensated for that, and I
- 3:00Speaker 2: become a franchise quarterback. I've been told I'm a franchise quarterback.
- 3:03Speaker 2: It's been said publicly from ownership down here, and so
- 3:06Speaker 2: to not have a deal done is very disappointing. But
- 3:09Speaker 2: I said the deadline was a deadline, and I addressed
- 3:12Speaker 2: the team to let them know I meant that it's
- 3:15Speaker 2: all ball.
- 3:15Speaker 1: I'm with these guys.
- 3:16Speaker 2: I think all the guys that have been here know
- 3:18Speaker 2: exactly who I am. The guys that are new here.
- 3:20Speaker 2: I wanted to address that because they might have had
- 3:22Speaker 2: a notion prior to coming here about who I am
- 3:26Speaker 2: as a person. But it's all team.
- 3:28Speaker 1: It's all about.
- 3:29Speaker 2: Winning here now and what we're going to do. And
- 3:31Speaker 2: you know, hopefully Vida gets his back fixed and it
- 3:33Speaker 2: gets his deal done. I mean, he's the second longest
- 3:36Speaker 2: tenured Buck behind CG and Vida deserves that. He's the
- 3:39Speaker 2: anchor of our defense and so I hope they take
- 3:41Speaker 2: care of him. Disappointed to say the least, but it's
- 3:45Speaker 2: all ball here and I know I'm gonna have a
- 3:47Speaker 2: good year. I know this team. The things that we
- 3:49Speaker 2: went through last year put us in a good spot
- 3:51Speaker 2: for this year. Depth wise, a lot of guys have
- 3:53Speaker 2: been thrown to the fire to be able to grow
- 3:56Speaker 2: and learn fast, and it didn't go the way we wanted.
- 3:59Speaker 2: But it's a new season and it's it's gonna help
- 4:01Speaker 2: us in the long run. This year added some new
- 4:03Speaker 2: pieces and so I'm excited about it. It's all ball
- 4:05Speaker 2: from here, you know. After today, Like I want to
- 4:07Speaker 2: answer a few more questions about the contract, but after today,
- 4:09Speaker 2: I'm not not.
- 4:10Speaker 1: Answering anymore because I'm not negotiating anymore Before I give
- 4:13Speaker 1: my opinion on what's going on his thoughts the Buccaneers angle,
- 4:20Speaker 1: I do just want to say it is extremely refreshing
- 4:25Speaker 1: in a league where these older veteran quarterbacks are essentially corporations.
- 4:31Speaker 1: I mean, most of the top twelve fifteen guys are making,
- 4:35Speaker 1: you know, over the course of their career, make hundreds
- 4:38Speaker 1: of millions of dollars. Most of them are pretty boring interviews,
- 4:43Speaker 1: and I understand where they're coming from, right that they
- 4:46Speaker 1: are basically their own corporation. They're so afraid to ruffle
- 4:50Speaker 1: any feathers publicly that they've just become like cliche machines,
- 4:56Speaker 1: which coaches, I'm sure like organizations definitely like, but it
- 5:00Speaker 1: can't be pretty boring at times. It's not like you're
- 5:03Speaker 1: getting the most raw and real version of these guys.
- 5:08Speaker 1: And I think the one reason Baker Mayfield has always
- 5:11Speaker 1: resonated with people whether you liked him or hated him,
- 5:15Speaker 1: but he kind of moved you emotionally because there was
- 5:18Speaker 1: an authenticity behind him. And you get a rant like that, which, again,
- 5:24Speaker 1: wherever you stand, if you're a Bucks fan, you might
- 5:26Speaker 1: have some feelings, or you're Browns fans, you got some feelings.
- 5:29Speaker 1: Whether you are a Texas fan, you hated the guy
- 5:32Speaker 1: since college. Like that makes you kind of like, damn.
- 5:36Speaker 1: You know. That is not something you consistently see from
- 5:40Speaker 1: these quarterbacks in contract situations, in other controversial situations involving
- 5:47Speaker 1: the football team, they usually just kind of toe the
- 5:51Speaker 1: company line because, you know what, it's just not worth it.
- 5:54Speaker 1: And Baker's never been like that. Now, this is not
- 5:58Speaker 1: a guy. He's made a hundred space one hundred and
- 6:00Speaker 1: sixty million dollars at the end of this season, right,
- 6:03Speaker 1: he'll play out this season. He'll once Week one comes
- 6:06Speaker 1: its contract will be guaranteed for this year. It's like
- 6:08Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty eight million dollars. His career earnings
- 6:11Speaker 1: will be like one hundred and fifty eight point nine
- 6:13Speaker 1: million dollars. So it's it's not like Baker currently is like,
- 6:18Speaker 1: can't buy the house he wants to buy, can't do
- 6:21Speaker 1: something he doesn't want to do. That rant to me
- 6:25Speaker 1: was one hundred percent. It's like about the money, but
- 6:29Speaker 1: the money represents respect. And my big takeaway is this,
- 6:36Speaker 1: in the professional world, relationships are very conditional. My relationship
- 6:43Speaker 1: with my son, with my wife are not conditional. Unless
- 6:47Speaker 1: you know, crazy things happen, right, infidelities, murder, whatever, then
- 6:52Speaker 1: you've got to reevaluate. But your family relationships, your immediate
- 6:57Speaker 1: family relationship, definitely are not conditional. Really, in the business world,
- 7:02Speaker 1: they one hundred percent are. I'm sure I got people
- 7:04Speaker 1: listening to me that are top sales guys at their
- 7:07Speaker 1: company go a year without selling anything. See how that ceo,
- 7:11Speaker 1: that president, that board feels about you. Then I've been
- 7:15Speaker 1: fired a couple times, honestly, fired twice by the time
- 7:18Speaker 1: I think I was like thirty one years old. Your
- 7:21Speaker 1: eyes will open to the real world. It is very cutthroat.
- 7:25Speaker 1: It is very black and white. Honestly, I think that's
- 7:28Speaker 1: why football resonates with so many people. The overwhelming majority
- 7:34Speaker 1: of players are basically year to year guys are basically
- 7:39Speaker 1: not that much different. Obviously, they make more money than
- 7:42Speaker 1: the majority of Americans, but have a lot in common
- 7:45Speaker 1: with at Will employees. They get cut, you know, they
- 7:50Speaker 1: get traded, they get their contract not renewed. The league
- 7:54Speaker 1: stands for not for long. It is the ultimate production
- 7:59Speaker 1: based business. And I understand where Baker is coming from emotionally, right,
- 8:06Speaker 1: he because when you're a quarterback. The number one thing
- 8:11Speaker 1: they want you to do is win, produce, but there
- 8:14Speaker 1: is a lot else that they put on your plate, leadership,
- 8:18Speaker 1: representing the franchise. It's why Collins rant has always you know,
- 8:23Speaker 1: I would say one of his biggest takes of all
- 8:25Speaker 1: time is the backwards hat with the quarterback thing, because
- 8:29Speaker 1: he valued the quarterback as representing these franchises worth six
- 8:34Speaker 1: to ten billion dollars and they are basically in the
- 8:40Speaker 1: C suite right next to the CEO and CFO, which
- 8:43Speaker 1: would be the GM and the head coach. Who do
- 8:45Speaker 1: we often talk about owner, head coach, GM quarterback. That's
- 8:49Speaker 1: like your executive team. And Baker has asked to do that.
- 8:53Speaker 1: And obviously, once Tom retires, he helped carry the flag
- 8:56Speaker 1: for this organization, keep them going and clear. If you
- 9:00Speaker 1: followed his career, if you've watched him talking, if you
- 9:02Speaker 1: watch quarterback he's it feels like he's grown up dramatically,
- 9:07Speaker 1: right exponentially, which I think a lot of us can
- 9:13Speaker 1: relate to. As guys. You take huge steps at certain
- 9:16Speaker 1: times from twenty five to thirty, you take another big
- 9:19Speaker 1: jump from thirty to late thirties to forty. I mean,
- 9:22Speaker 1: we just grow at slower rates than most Women's just
- 9:26Speaker 1: a fact in Baker Mayfield, to me as a person,
- 9:29Speaker 1: feels like he's really in a great spot from a
- 9:33Speaker 1: maturity standpoint, from a family standpoint, from a leadership standpoint,
- 9:37Speaker 1: from a guy people want to play with. But when
- 9:41Speaker 1: I pay a quarterback, and we've talked about this forever,
- 9:43Speaker 1: like most quarterbacks see the majority of their contract. Unless
- 9:50Speaker 1: you are a royal disaster, like a Tua, like a Kyler,
- 9:54Speaker 1: then your guarantees really come in to play. But Baker Mayfield,
- 9:58Speaker 1: for example, siting a three year, hunt undred million dollar contract,
- 10:01Speaker 1: all of that was not guaranteed. At the end of
- 10:04Speaker 1: this year, he will have seen every single penny of
- 10:07Speaker 1: that contract. Sam Darnald, right, did not get every penny
- 10:11Speaker 1: of his contract. Guess what Sam Darnald is gonna see
- 10:14Speaker 1: of that three year whatever, one hundred and ten million
- 10:16Speaker 1: dollar contract he signed last year, Every penny of it.
- 10:20Speaker 1: So if you are better than like a top twenty quarterback,
- 10:24Speaker 1: you are gonna see all your money. And obviously the
- 10:27Speaker 1: top guys, the Lamars, the Mahomes, the josh Allens, the
- 10:32Speaker 1: Herbert's like they never even think about not getting the
- 10:37Speaker 1: guaranteed and the non guaranteed portions of their contract. So
- 10:41Speaker 1: when you're a general manager and this is the tough
- 10:43Speaker 1: spot for Jason Light, you have to become the bad guy.
- 10:47Speaker 1: Sometimes you just do. And would Baker Mayfield, will we
- 10:52Speaker 1: be having this conversation if his twenty twenty four year,
- 10:56Speaker 1: where he threw forty one touchdowns, he was over seventy
- 10:59Speaker 1: percent com poliction a percentage he had him in the
- 11:01Speaker 1: playoffs and obviously by the end of the season they
- 11:03Speaker 1: were playing as well as anybody. Probably not, he probably
- 11:06Speaker 1: would have got a big extension. But that's not what
- 11:09Speaker 1: happened last year. Because you start thinking as the general manager,
- 11:12Speaker 1: while your star offensive coordinator leaves, you bring in a
- 11:15Speaker 1: new guy. Baker gets banged up, which obviously no one
- 11:19Speaker 1: wants to get injured. Everyone that's ever played in the NFL, like,
- 11:24Speaker 1: no one chooses to spray knees to hurt elbows. But
- 11:30Speaker 1: it does happen. And when that does happen, front offices
- 11:33Speaker 1: have to ask themselves, do we feel comfortable that this
- 11:36Speaker 1: is not gonna happen again? And this is not one
- 11:38Speaker 1: of those situations in most industries, you don't know the answer.
- 11:42Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield could go the next five years and never
- 11:45Speaker 1: have an injury that slows him down at all. But
- 11:47Speaker 1: you don't know that. And so Baker Mayfield when he goes,
- 11:52Speaker 1: I feel disrespected. I give him a lot of credit.
- 11:55Speaker 1: He wasn't saying like poor me in the sense that
- 11:58Speaker 1: I'm not making enough money, like this, I can't pay
- 12:01Speaker 1: my mortgage. He laid it out there. There are a
- 12:04Speaker 1: lot of people in the world that have it way
- 12:06Speaker 1: worse than me. These are first class problems. This is
- 12:09Speaker 1: a country club issue. This is about respect. And he
- 12:13Speaker 1: looks around and he sees he views himself. I'm sure
- 12:18Speaker 1: in the category of the Goths, the Daks, the Purties,
- 12:22Speaker 1: and all those guys have been recently taken care of. Well,
- 12:25Speaker 1: I look at Jared Goff and I go he has
- 12:27Speaker 1: been much more consistent. You know. In even last year
- 12:31Speaker 1: threw over thirty touchdowns, he only threw eight interceptions. Like,
- 12:37Speaker 1: I just think Jared Goff's a better player, Purty, Well,
- 12:40Speaker 1: what does he have going for him? The decision maker
- 12:43Speaker 1: is in love with them, and he dominates the offense
- 12:46Speaker 1: in which the decision maker it's his baby. Dak Prescott
- 12:50Speaker 1: unique situation with Jerry Jones, So Baker Mayfield, like your
- 12:54Speaker 1: coach is in major question. So let's say Todd Bowles
- 12:58Speaker 1: at the end of this year gets fired if I
- 13:00Speaker 1: lock you up to because the going rate, if you
- 13:03Speaker 1: just made a one hundred million dollars over the last
- 13:05Speaker 1: three years. If I'm Jason Light, what would it take
- 13:09Speaker 1: for Baker Mayfield to sign the contract like a four year,
- 13:12Speaker 1: two hundred million dollar deal one hundred and fifty million
- 13:14Speaker 1: dollars guaranteed something in that world because he just mentioned
- 13:18Speaker 1: that the two year contract was basically laughable essentially, right,
- 13:23Speaker 1: which I would guess they offered him like two years
- 13:25Speaker 1: ninety million, kind of like a Daniel Jones situation, and
- 13:28Speaker 1: Baker's going, I'm not Daniel Jones, and I don't blame
- 13:30Speaker 1: him for thinking that. That's what makes these situations so difficult.
- 13:35Speaker 1: And Baker's clearly better than Tua or Kyler. But Jason
- 13:40Speaker 1: has seen those situations where teams regretted the contract pretty quickly,
- 13:47Speaker 1: and because they have some question marks at coach because
- 13:50Speaker 1: they've had this revolving kind of door offensive coordinator. Like
- 13:54Speaker 1: we would all agree that he's not an Aaron Rodgers,
- 13:57Speaker 1: He's not a Peyton Manning where whoever's calling the offense
- 13:59Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily matter. It's gonna be elite. There are outside
- 14:05Speaker 1: variables that are pretty important for Baker success because if
- 14:09Speaker 1: you look at twenty twenty four, when he had by
- 14:12Speaker 1: far the best year of his career, it turns out
- 14:16Speaker 1: the guy calling the plays might just be a star.
- 14:19Speaker 1: I saw the Athletic or ESPN or I forget where
- 14:22Speaker 1: I read it. I think it was the Athletic. They
- 14:25Speaker 1: ranked like the top ten play callers in the league.
- 14:28Speaker 1: Out of note Liam Cohen on the list, and I
- 14:31Speaker 1: think it was ted to win ye. I was the Athletic.
- 14:33Speaker 1: He was talking to defensive coordinators and defensive people throughout
- 14:36Speaker 1: the NFL. Liam Cohen was ranked. It was just based
- 14:39Speaker 1: on last year I had Andy Reid, so last I checked.
- 14:43Speaker 1: Andy Reids go to the Hall of Fame. Now you
- 14:44Speaker 1: can say he had a bad year or whatever, but
- 14:46Speaker 1: still like I don't think anyone on the BINGO card
- 14:49Speaker 1: would have had a couple of years ago. Liam Cohen
- 14:51Speaker 1: being viewed around the league as a better play caller
- 14:53Speaker 1: currently than Andy Reid. Now I gotta see a little
- 14:56Speaker 1: more body of work here. But I under stand just
- 15:00Speaker 1: based on twenty five how someone could write that list, well,
- 15:06Speaker 1: we might not get a Liam Cohen back, so I
- 15:09Speaker 1: have to be careful about paying because the going rate
- 15:12Speaker 1: is kind of the going rate. And I just think
- 15:16Speaker 1: these situations are very, very complicated, and I think Jason
- 15:19Speaker 1: Light is doing the right thing by playing it out.
- 15:22Speaker 1: The problem is is and Baker's saying like, I'm not
- 15:26Speaker 1: negotiating anymore. Let's just rock and roll. Let's go Joe Flacco,
- 15:30Speaker 1: I'm gonna prove you wrong because he said, and I'm
- 15:33Speaker 1: Jason the owner. People around the building right, previous coaching
- 15:39Speaker 1: staff has said this is one of the better quarterbacks
- 15:41Speaker 1: in the league. All these guys have said that over
- 15:43Speaker 1: the course of the last twenty four months, especially a
- 15:46Speaker 1: couple of years ago. But words in the real world
- 15:50Speaker 1: that business don't mean shit. They don't mean a goddamn thing.
- 15:57Speaker 1: A lot of people say I love you to their
- 15:59Speaker 1: sick signific I can other won't get down on a
- 16:01Speaker 1: knee and propose a lot of things are said in business.
- 16:06Speaker 1: How many of you guys have thought, like, we could
- 16:08Speaker 1: close this deal we just and then no contracts ever signed.
- 16:14Speaker 1: My wife said this for years. She never gets too
- 16:17Speaker 1: excited over phone calls. About real estate stuff because until
- 16:21Speaker 1: a contract is signed, none of it matters. Until a
- 16:24Speaker 1: deal goes down and it wheels are in motion, you
- 16:28Speaker 1: can't get ahead of yourself. And we're all guilty of
- 16:31Speaker 1: doing that. But the older you get, you realize in
- 16:36Speaker 1: the private sector, words are pretty meaningless. I'd argue words
- 16:39Speaker 1: in general are pretty meaningless, like actions define everything, and
- 16:46Speaker 1: right now the Bucks' actions are, Yeah, we got some
- 16:48Speaker 1: question marks. How could they not because last year in
- 16:52Speaker 1: a god awful division they couldn't make the playoffs, and
- 16:57Speaker 1: offensively once Baker was banged up, they were just off. Defensively,
- 17:02Speaker 1: they're just bad team. But if they had gone thirteen
- 17:06Speaker 1: and four and been the two seed, yeah, probably not
- 17:09Speaker 1: sitting here. But isn't that the NFL? Isn't that life?
- 17:14Speaker 1: It's what I've always said about all these coaches. It's
- 17:16Speaker 1: about the process. It's about the process. It's about the process.
- 17:21Speaker 1: Kind of rings hollow to me. Unless you're Nick Saban
- 17:24Speaker 1: saying that, unless you're Kurt Signetti is saying that, unless
- 17:28Speaker 1: you are Jeff Bezos saying that. It's easy for everyone
- 17:31Speaker 1: to say that does your process work? Like these weren't
- 17:35Speaker 1: a results oriented society. Football is a results oriented business,
- 17:41Speaker 1: and you can make excuses. Well, I've had a bad shoulder,
- 17:45Speaker 1: my left tackle was banged up, my starting wide receiver
- 17:48Speaker 1: was out. That's great, But welcome to the league, welcome
- 17:52Speaker 1: to life. So I have no problem with Baker Mayfield
- 17:57Speaker 1: being pissed off everything he's heard, what he feels he's
- 18:00Speaker 1: done for the organization. And I got no issue with
- 18:03Speaker 1: Jason light doing it. If I was in his shoes,
- 18:05Speaker 1: I would do the same thing. We got to play
- 18:08Speaker 1: this out. If you prove me wrong, it's not my money,
- 18:12Speaker 1: We'll get the owner to give you one hundred and
- 18:13Speaker 1: seventy five million dollars guaranteed. Throw forty touchdowns, lead us
- 18:16Speaker 1: to eleven wins. Let's win the division. But if we
- 18:19Speaker 1: have another year like last year, how can I feel
- 18:22Speaker 1: comfortable doing that? And that's what makes this business so difficult.
- 18:27Speaker 1: There's gotta be a guy in every building that is
- 18:29Speaker 1: just the bad guy. Forever, in New England, it was Belichick,
- 18:34Speaker 1: Like everyone knew it was Belichick, right, how he often
- 18:38Speaker 1: operates like the bad guy in Philadelphia? Right, it's just
- 18:41Speaker 1: a reality, like we can't pay you, we're gonna trade you,
- 18:44Speaker 1: we're gonna cut you, and that's what Jason Light's doing
- 18:48Speaker 1: right now. And Baker also made the comments about you know,
- 18:51Speaker 1: extending Vidavea. Well, it's like he's gonna be thirty two
- 18:55Speaker 1: years old, bigger player, Like have we seen the best
- 18:58Speaker 1: version of him? The going rate for him is massive.
- 19:02Speaker 1: So if we give you the market rate on your
- 19:06Speaker 1: two positions, ifin a couple of years we regret it,
- 19:10Speaker 1: we are screwed. These are not small numbers. Chris O
- 19:15Speaker 1: Lave who in twenty four was banged up, missed a
- 19:19Speaker 1: bunch of time. I mean, hell, there were questions I
- 19:20Speaker 1: didn't think he said it. Last year it's like across
- 19:22Speaker 1: his mind, like do I even want to play football anymore?
- 19:25Speaker 1: Last year got his mind right. One hundred catches, nine touchdowns,
- 19:30Speaker 1: by far, the best year of his career. Just got
- 19:33Speaker 1: ninety million dollars guaranteed, so certain positions, obviously a big
- 19:38Speaker 1: time defensive lineman and especially a quarterback. When you make mistakes,
- 19:44Speaker 1: it is crippling. It is because their money accounts for
- 19:48Speaker 1: so much on the salary cap over the course of
- 19:51Speaker 1: a couple of years, or if you want to get
- 19:53Speaker 1: out of it, I mean, look at what the Dolphins
- 19:55Speaker 1: had to do to just get out of to a
- 19:56Speaker 1: tongue of II LOA. The Arizona Cardinals were eating thirty
- 20:00Speaker 1: six million dollars just to get rid of Kyler Murray.
- 20:04Speaker 1: And I'm not saying comparing Baker Mayfield, but you just
- 20:08Speaker 1: that's how fast the league happens. Peyton Manning was once cut,
- 20:13Speaker 1: Tom Brady was once told we don't want you anymore.
- 20:17Speaker 1: Think about that. The Packers traded Aaron Rodgers. I don't
- 20:23Speaker 1: know if I had to think about it and my life,
- 20:26Speaker 1: Tiger Woods, Barry Bonds. I'm thinking of non football players,
- 20:33Speaker 1: Roger Federer. I mean, I would put Peyton Manning, Tom
- 20:37Speaker 1: Brady and Aaron Rodgers in my forty one years on
- 20:40Speaker 1: this planet and thirty plus of being able to like
- 20:44Speaker 1: cognitively remember watching people play sports as three of the best,
- 20:50Speaker 1: definitely top seven eight players in any sport. I've ever
- 20:54Speaker 1: seen one cut, one traded, the other told you don't
- 21:00Speaker 1: have a contract and you can say it well. One
- 21:02Speaker 1: was coming off a neck injury, one was forty one
- 21:04Speaker 1: years old. One was kind of I don't know, things
- 21:08Speaker 1: got a little weird. You give me all the excuses
- 21:10Speaker 1: you want. Peyton Manning left won at MVP. Tom Brady
- 21:14Speaker 1: left won an MVP Aaron Rodgers, you know, towards Achilles.
- 21:19Speaker 1: Even though I've been seeing the viral Hard Knocks clips
- 21:22Speaker 1: of that Jets year, they're camp highlights, they look like
- 21:27Speaker 1: they were gonna win the Super Bowl. They really did,
- 21:29Speaker 1: or at least compete for one. I think they ended
- 21:32Speaker 1: up going seven to ten that year. Obviously Aaron only
- 21:35Speaker 1: played four or five snaps, so I think it's fair
- 21:37Speaker 1: to say if Aaron just plays that season with how
- 21:39Speaker 1: good their defense is, eleven wins easy. So things changed
- 21:46Speaker 1: so fast, and there's this balance in football of the
- 21:54Speaker 1: human element.
- 21:56Speaker 2: Big.
- 21:56Speaker 1: I bet Jason Light would tell you, like, I love
- 21:58Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, love everything he stands for, but also the
- 22:03Speaker 1: business side of like, I gotta be very careful about
- 22:07Speaker 1: not making a mistake that we're gonna regret, And he'd go,
- 22:10Speaker 1: we got three years of evidence. It's like, yeah, well,
- 22:13Speaker 1: the rates in which I have to pay you, I
- 22:15Speaker 1: don't know if I'm comfortable doing. And you could argue, well,
- 22:19Speaker 1: if you play seventeen games and balls out, what are
- 22:21Speaker 1: you really learning that you didn't already know? And the
- 22:26Speaker 1: answer is you'll never know, because year to year things
- 22:28Speaker 1: change so quickly, and these situations get very, very difficult.
- 22:33Speaker 1: There's a small percentage of quarterbacks that you feel one
- 22:37Speaker 1: hundred percent great about paying a large amount of money to.
- 22:40Speaker 1: It's like less than five. It really is the majority
- 22:46Speaker 1: of other good quarterbacks in the league. It's like, damn,
- 22:49Speaker 1: we hope this goes well. Just keep our fingers crossed.
- 22:52Speaker 1: That includes the Goths, the Purties, the Dacks, kind of
- 22:55Speaker 1: that crew guys. I mean, look at Burl last year,
- 22:59Speaker 1: all of a sudden disappear. It wasn't his fault, but
- 23:04Speaker 1: like that boom turf tow out for the majority of
- 23:06Speaker 1: the year. I just think this league is it's really complicated,
- 23:14Speaker 1: and they're there were the assets are all human beings,
- 23:18Speaker 1: and like I said, it's refreshing to see a guy
- 23:20Speaker 1: be a human being. And it's not because he's not
- 23:23Speaker 1: already rich, he's filthy rich. It's about like the respect
- 23:27Speaker 1: based on the guys. Money's all relative. Right, If you're
- 23:31Speaker 1: making a hundred grand and you go all the other
- 23:34Speaker 1: guys in my position in my industry are making five
- 23:38Speaker 1: hundred grand, you're gonna be fucking pissed off. You just are.
- 23:43Speaker 1: We're all We're all kind of wired the same way,
- 23:46Speaker 1: especially like competitive people, aggressive people, ambitious people, people trying
- 23:53Speaker 1: to do big things. And it's gonna be interesting because
- 23:58Speaker 1: the one question mark I would have his last year
- 24:01Speaker 1: he played through injuries. If this year you get hurt,
- 24:05Speaker 1: like are you willing to just lay it on the line?
- 24:08Speaker 1: Are you gonna have the mentality? I'm doing it for
- 24:10Speaker 1: the guy next next to me, right, It's like, you know,
- 24:13Speaker 1: the Army Rangers, not fighting for the general back of
- 24:16Speaker 1: the base. He's fighting for the guy to his right
- 24:18Speaker 1: and to his left. But when there's money on the line,
- 24:21Speaker 1: like yeah, no, no, if I'm gonna play through this
- 24:23Speaker 1: banged ub MCL, that's where it could get weird. I'm
- 24:27Speaker 1: root for Baker Mayfield to do well. He's like he said,
- 24:31Speaker 1: he made Tampa Bay home. I just think that this.
- 24:36Speaker 1: If it doesn't go that well, I'm picking the Saints
- 24:38Speaker 1: to win the division, things will get weird, and things
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- 26:24Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. The other comment I saw
- 26:33Speaker 1: today that was just fantastic. One thing we've lost, you know,
- 26:39Speaker 1: ten years ago. It wasn't the SEC versus the Big Ten.
- 26:45Speaker 1: It was wherever you were from, wherever you went to college,
- 26:48Speaker 1: there was like this. The regionality of college sports really
- 26:54Speaker 1: resonated with me. Right when you thought the Big twelve,
- 26:57Speaker 1: you thought big time offense. When you thought the Pac twelve,
- 27:01Speaker 1: you thought like innovative quarterback play. When you thought the
- 27:03Speaker 1: Big Ten, you thought like physical football. When you thought SEC,
- 27:07Speaker 1: thought the best athletes, the best NFL players. And then,
- 27:10Speaker 1: depending on how it shook out, most time it was Alabama,
- 27:14Speaker 1: we'd argue who the top five teams in the country were.
- 27:17Speaker 1: And then conference realignment and conference has got destroyed. Now
- 27:20Speaker 1: Stanford and Cow played each other in a baseball the
- 27:24Speaker 1: conference playoffs. Stanford and Cow, which are, you know, not
- 27:29Speaker 1: that far away from each other as the crow fly
- 27:31Speaker 1: is probably twenty you know, the Crow could get there
- 27:33Speaker 1: in twenty minutes depending on traffic, I don't know hour
- 27:37Speaker 1: and they played each other in North Carolina. So we've
- 27:43Speaker 1: lost a lot of the soul of college football. And
- 27:48Speaker 1: a huge part of that was everyone kind of stuck
- 27:53Speaker 1: their flag wherever they were from. Right if you were
- 27:56Speaker 1: an SEC guy, you laughed at Oregon and Washington and
- 28:00Speaker 1: Callen Stanford. Well, now Callen Stanford played Florida State, Miami
- 28:04Speaker 1: and Clemson. Now Oregon plays Rutgers in Maryland. So Texas
- 28:10Speaker 1: forever in Oklahoma were the Big twelve. Now they play
- 28:15Speaker 1: Alabama and Georgia. And I think signetti because college football
- 28:20Speaker 1: has basically become the NFL, the AFC, and the NFC,
- 28:23Speaker 1: which are essentially the big ten in the SEC. You know,
- 28:27Speaker 1: obviously Miami, Notre Dame. There are a couple other programs,
- 28:31Speaker 1: Texas Tech with the money they're spending, but the majority
- 28:34Speaker 1: of our energy, the majority of the viewership comes from
- 28:37Speaker 1: those two bad boys. And I do think we've lost
- 28:41Speaker 1: something that I grew up on which we're never getting back.
- 28:44Speaker 1: So I'm not holding onto the past, even if I
- 28:47Speaker 1: missed it a little bit. But we do need some
- 28:50Speaker 1: sort of like hatred and rivalry beside just all the
- 28:55Speaker 1: comments coming out of the SEC media day was kind
- 29:00Speaker 1: of complaining about nine conference games and the playoffs and
- 29:04Speaker 1: the one thing with the NFL, some NOOW coaches complain
- 29:09Speaker 1: a little bit about like the international games, but you'll
- 29:13Speaker 1: never hear a coach being like, we got it easy
- 29:17Speaker 1: this year because we get the Titans, the Cardinals, and
- 29:21Speaker 1: the Commanders. Like, no one talks about their schedule in
- 29:25Speaker 1: terms of, well, we got this easy team or we
- 29:28Speaker 1: got to play this. It just is what it is.
- 29:30Speaker 1: Every year, it rotates. Y'all eventually play each other over
- 29:33Speaker 1: the course of a couple of years. Sometimes it turns
- 29:35Speaker 1: out a little bit easier, but things can change at
- 29:38Speaker 1: a moment's notice, because you could be playing the Bengals
- 29:40Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow he get turf toe, and then all
- 29:41Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're playing Joe Flacco or something, which
- 29:45Speaker 1: actually beat Mike Tomin last year, which was actually pretty cool.
- 29:49Speaker 1: But you know what I mean. It just there's a
- 29:51Speaker 1: different vibe to the NFL and college football just about
- 29:55Speaker 1: the games because everything is so out of balance in
- 29:58Speaker 1: college football with the non conference you can play a
- 30:02Speaker 1: bunch of teams, no one's ever heard of. You can
- 30:05Speaker 1: kind of stack the books a little bit. I mean
- 30:07Speaker 1: Missouri does that. Their records always like eight and four,
- 30:09Speaker 1: nine and three, But if you look, they got four
- 30:11Speaker 1: Patsy wins. That's why I respect Texas and Ohio State
- 30:14Speaker 1: playing each other. Florida State and Alabama. Again, it's very
- 30:19Speaker 1: you know, cyclical in terms of like you may get Alabama,
- 30:22Speaker 1: they're down relative to Saban, but regardless, it's just all
- 30:25Speaker 1: out of whack. But the one thing that is very
- 30:28Speaker 1: clear is these two conferences now are viewing each other
- 30:30Speaker 1: eye to e as they got all the money, they
- 30:33Speaker 1: got all the players, and we got all the teams
- 30:35Speaker 1: going to the playoffs every year. But most of these
- 30:40Speaker 1: coaches aren't gonna take direct shots and talk a bunch
- 30:42Speaker 1: of shit like Ryan Day is at what I'd argue
- 30:45Speaker 1: is the best current program in the country him or
- 30:49Speaker 1: Georgia and Kirby Smart. I would say, even Kirby, they're
- 30:53Speaker 1: not gonna say that much. Even if you go back
- 30:56Speaker 1: to Saban. Saban would go to these media days and
- 30:59Speaker 1: he would say like big picture college football stuff, but
- 31:02Speaker 1: he would never like take jabs at other conferences, other opponents,
- 31:07Speaker 1: at least that I can remember. So to me, there's
- 31:11Speaker 1: besides some of the twenty fourteen playoffs. We need this
- 31:15Speaker 1: and we need that. We just on the field is
- 31:18Speaker 1: what I like. Like when Ben Johnson hates the Packers,
- 31:21Speaker 1: you know what, everyone goes, fuck, yeah, this is awesome.
- 31:25Speaker 1: So when I see Signetty today, come and say, we
- 31:28Speaker 1: don't run a hype machine up here in the Midwest.
- 31:32Speaker 1: We believe everything is earned, not given. When we fall short,
- 31:36Speaker 1: we say we fall short. We don't cry a river
- 31:39Speaker 1: and whind and complain. All right, it's why we're the best.
- 31:45Speaker 1: We need some of that. We need some legitimately we
- 31:48Speaker 1: think we're better than you. It used to happen a
- 31:50Speaker 1: lot when I was a kid, whether it was Jimmy
- 31:53Speaker 1: Johnson and Lou Holtz or Joe Paterno to Steve Spurrier
- 31:58Speaker 1: talking a bunch of shit, and I'm not talking talking shit,
- 32:01Speaker 1: Like we need more teams in the playoffs because if
- 32:04Speaker 1: you look at the NFL, forty percent of their league
- 32:06Speaker 1: makes the playoffs and only eight percent. Like, we're exhausted
- 32:10Speaker 1: with that. You know, our roster, we need a salary
- 32:12Speaker 1: cap on nil, Like can you just play the games?
- 32:15Speaker 1: Can you guys? Just figure it out and make the
- 32:17Speaker 1: football aspect of it feel big, because there's Saturdays are incredible.
- 32:23Speaker 1: A good Saturday night game in college football at Penn State,
- 32:27Speaker 1: at Oregon, some of those SEC programs, when Michigan Ohio
- 32:31Speaker 1: State play each other. There's just a pureness to the
- 32:34Speaker 1: game that is like this means a lot, but all
- 32:37Speaker 1: the other stuff, and I'm someone who loves college football,
- 32:42Speaker 1: I get exhausted with it. I'm like I I this
- 32:44Speaker 1: is ole miss is suing the LSU players and like
- 32:48Speaker 1: Laye kid, It's like, this is so never happens to
- 32:52Speaker 1: the NFL because you can't just steal a coach. You
- 32:54Speaker 1: know why, because they're under contract. If I want Sean McVay,
- 32:57Speaker 1: I can't just offer him fifty million dollars a year.
- 32:59Speaker 1: Doesn't work like that. So college football is a lot
- 33:02Speaker 1: to figure out. But one thing that Kurt Signetti, who
- 33:05Speaker 1: what are you really gonna say about him? He went
- 33:07Speaker 1: to Indiana and in his second year played Oregon in
- 33:11Speaker 1: Alabama on his way to the National championship and beat
- 33:13Speaker 1: the living shit out of him. Took Kaylin du Bores,
- 33:16Speaker 1: making one hundred million dollars, beat him thirty eight to three.
- 33:19Speaker 1: I don't have the Oregon score off the top of
- 33:20Speaker 1: my head. That feels like it was even bigger. And
- 33:24Speaker 1: then took Miami, which if you watch the draft, they
- 33:27Speaker 1: had how many guys go in the top twenty five
- 33:30Speaker 1: and one of their best players a true freshman, and
- 33:33Speaker 1: they had a quarterback get drafted in the third round
- 33:35Speaker 1: and won that game, which you would say Miami, at
- 33:39Speaker 1: least in the last forty five years is definitely one
- 33:42Speaker 1: of the best programs in the country, the opposite of Indiana,
- 33:46Speaker 1: which was legitimately the worst program in the history of
- 33:50Speaker 1: Division I Power four, Power five football. So I appreciate that.
- 33:56Speaker 1: We just need some more of that. Like I like
- 33:58Speaker 1: when Ben Johnson goes fucking liked the Packers, It's like, well,
- 34:01Speaker 1: what did Matt Lafleur do to him? Who cares he
- 34:04Speaker 1: doesn't like him? You know, I appreciate some people that
- 34:07Speaker 1: just don't like other people, because we all do. We
- 34:10Speaker 1: all have those feelings. Hell, I see people on the
- 34:13Speaker 1: internet all the time that work kind of in my industry.
- 34:17Speaker 1: I've never even met the guy. I'm like, I fucking
- 34:18Speaker 1: hate that guy. Right, we all have those feelings, and
- 34:23Speaker 1: most of these coaches gets back to Baker Mayfield. No
- 34:26Speaker 1: one says anything anymore. It's it's very rare. And I'm
- 34:30Speaker 1: not talking to the occasional like wide receiver, linebacker. I'm
- 34:32Speaker 1: talking the coach or the quarterback that just goes, you
- 34:34Speaker 1: know what, fucked that guy? I hate that guy. I
- 34:38Speaker 1: hate the SEC. They never shut up. We've we've dominated
- 34:42Speaker 1: the National Championship now for the last couple of years.
- 34:45Speaker 1: We're the best conference. I don't think there's another guy
- 34:47Speaker 1: in the country that would have said that, and in
- 34:49Speaker 1: fairness like Dan Lanning, who I like a lot, if
- 34:52Speaker 1: he had said that. You know, it's like Dan les
- 34:54Speaker 1: just when a playoff game first, But this guy just
- 34:57Speaker 1: ran the fucking table, beat everyone in a path, including
- 35:01Speaker 1: SEC team, including the best teams in the Big Ten
- 35:04Speaker 1: in Oregon and Ohio State and then Miami, who was
- 35:07Speaker 1: littered with NFL players who I you know, like Mesadora
- 35:11Speaker 1: and Bain and the offensive tackle the win of the Giant.
- 35:14Speaker 1: Those guys are gonna be good NFL players, honestly, like
- 35:17Speaker 1: those guys are gonna make Pro Bowl some of them.
- 35:20Speaker 1: So it's refreshing because we need some just like this
- 35:24Speaker 1: matters a lot. When Steve Spurry used to just talk
- 35:27Speaker 1: shit about Florida State. That was that was fun, like
- 35:31Speaker 1: that was enjoyable, you know, and we just don't get
- 35:34Speaker 1: any of that anymore. It's everyone just whining about stuff that,
- 35:37Speaker 1: like can we just talk about the games? And that's
- 35:41Speaker 1: kind of what Signetti's doing. We're just better up here.
- 35:44Speaker 1: We don't bitch and moan, even though it's like everyone does.
- 35:47Speaker 1: But it's just like, you know, take a shot, hopefully
- 35:50Speaker 1: someone in the SEC, hopefully Kirby takes a shot back.
- 35:53Speaker 1: And we just amped this up because we know we're
- 35:55Speaker 1: all moving to it's eventually gonna be a two conference sport.
- 36:01Speaker 1: What else is going on? A couple of quick things.
- 36:07Speaker 1: Social media is what it is. Some of these viral
- 36:12Speaker 1: clips on just different players in shorts and T shirts
- 36:18Speaker 1: of like AJ Brown can't play anymore, Marvin Harrison blows.
- 36:23Speaker 1: These are just two that come to mind because I've
- 36:25Speaker 1: seen him on the internet today, and who knows, maybe
- 36:28Speaker 1: AJ's best days are behind him. Maybe Marvin Harrison will
- 36:31Speaker 1: be just one of the all time most overhyped prospects
- 36:35Speaker 1: we've ever seen. But to make these judgment calls in
- 36:41Speaker 1: the end of July when they're not in shoulder pads.
- 36:45Speaker 1: And this happens all over with all different positions. It's
- 36:49Speaker 1: gotten a little crazy. JJ McCarthy, Kyler Murray, I have
- 36:52Speaker 1: seen all sorts of stuff. Can we just wait till
- 36:54Speaker 1: the pads come on? No one's playing football yet, nobody, Well,
- 36:58Speaker 1: I guess maybe a couple teams pads on the Panthers
- 37:01Speaker 1: And who's is it? The Panthers and the Cardinals are
- 37:05Speaker 1: playing in the in the uh Hall of Fame game,
- 37:10Speaker 1: I think shows you how dialed in I am on
- 37:13Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game. But my point is that
- 37:16Speaker 1: we live in an era where back in the day,
- 37:20Speaker 1: you could just fail through training camp. You know why,
- 37:24Speaker 1: because it's practice and you could just get better, you
- 37:27Speaker 1: could improve, you could screw up and now everything. This
- 37:31Speaker 1: is why the NFL and they never will does not
- 37:34Speaker 1: allow anyone in practice beside for like fifteen minutes when
- 37:37Speaker 1: the season starts. Because can you imagine if we got
- 37:41Speaker 1: the same thing during the week of, like week six
- 37:45Speaker 1: of just like this is what's going on with so
- 37:48Speaker 1: and so team so and so player, look how he
- 37:50Speaker 1: looks in practice. It would be exhausting. Now, don't get
- 37:53Speaker 1: me wrong, I mean I click on it and I
- 37:55Speaker 1: watch it, but it does feel like it's it's kind
- 38:01Speaker 1: of jumped the shark a little bit, right, Dan Campbell
- 38:05Speaker 1: said in a O tas We can get excited, we
- 38:09Speaker 1: can get fired up, but at the end of the day,
- 38:10Speaker 1: there is a pajama party. This is not basketball. You
- 38:13Speaker 1: can play five on five in baseball. I can take
- 38:15Speaker 1: live VP against Roger Clements. You cannot play football. The
- 38:20Speaker 1: line of scrimmage literally defines the sport. They cannot play
- 38:24Speaker 1: without pats. It's not possible, right, Or you can't run
- 38:29Speaker 1: the ball without pats. It doesn't it doesn't exist. It's
- 38:33Speaker 1: like you can call a run, but no one's blocking tackle.
- 38:36Speaker 1: It just doesn't happen. And you could argue even in
- 38:39Speaker 1: a lot of these camps now that are all two
- 38:42Speaker 1: hand touch, it's not even real football either, Like what
- 38:45Speaker 1: do you tackled him? Maybe? What if he broke the tackle?
- 38:47Speaker 1: What if he actually made a miss? You don't really
- 38:50Speaker 1: know until the live bullet started flying. And I just
- 38:54Speaker 1: I feel for some of these guys that are just
- 38:56Speaker 1: getting shit on on the internet. For like one bet
- 39:00Speaker 1: rep on July twenty ninth, It's like this guy can't play.
- 39:04Speaker 1: He's like well maybe he can't, but we definitely don't
- 39:07Speaker 1: know based on that clip before we dive into the mailbag. Obviously,
- 39:14Speaker 1: my last week's Fugazi Friday on the s'mores from Kirkland,
- 39:19Speaker 1: well from Costco, the Kirkland brand. Avoid those at all
- 39:22Speaker 1: costs because they're too easy to eat. And I definitely
- 39:26Speaker 1: a week later, I feel dramatically fatter, and I was
- 39:29Speaker 1: trending in the right direction. I was feeling like, get
- 39:32Speaker 1: my summer bod going, losing some lbs and then just
- 39:35Speaker 1: cast that thing in three days and it usually takes
- 39:37Speaker 1: a couple of days to hit and now I just,
- 39:39Speaker 1: I mean, I feel just terrible. One thing Kirkland does
- 39:42Speaker 1: provide is they're cold brew coffees. No free ads here,
- 39:47Speaker 1: but at Costco are just are pretty powerful. I was
- 39:50Speaker 1: really struggling today. I had one in the morning. But
- 39:54Speaker 1: you know, my son is like Jocko will Nick. He's
- 39:58Speaker 1: up at like four forty five, five o'clock on the
- 40:00Speaker 1: dot every single night or every single morning, like he
- 40:04Speaker 1: will not make it past five am. So it's it's
- 40:06Speaker 1: usually in the late fours you start hearing that cry
- 40:08Speaker 1: and it's like, oh he's up, and now he'll take
- 40:11Speaker 1: retake a nap at like six fifteen, but like you're
- 40:14Speaker 1: getting up with him and you know, in the force,
- 40:17Speaker 1: and uh sometimes you see the lecture juice and those
- 40:20Speaker 1: those cold brew coffees. Man, they got like two hundred
- 40:22Speaker 1: and twenty five milligrams of caffeine. I had my second one,
- 40:25Speaker 1: so I had like four hun and fifty grams of
- 40:27Speaker 1: Actually I had a and I had double Express, so
- 40:28Speaker 1: I made two around lunch. So one of those days,
- 40:31Speaker 1: you know, you're just dragging, You're like, what do I
- 40:33Speaker 1: need to do? Uh? Not an adderall guy. So you
- 40:37Speaker 1: just you just take as much caffeine as you can.
- 40:39Speaker 1: And the second coffee definitely worked for me. Other than that,
- 40:43Speaker 1: I don't really have any fugazis. Besides one thing I
- 40:47Speaker 1: have noticed the last couple of weeks, this little stretch
- 40:50Speaker 1: from like basketball kind of ends. We got a little
- 40:54Speaker 1: lucky with the World Cup. I don't watch baseball anymore.
- 40:59Speaker 1: There is no thing on television. The absolutely nothing on television,
- 41:06Speaker 1: Like what do people watch? Like I can only watch
- 41:10Speaker 1: reruns a Shark Tank and Guy Fieri going to some
- 41:13Speaker 1: sweet little you know diner that has some bomb burger
- 41:17Speaker 1: with an onion ring on the top and guacamole on
- 41:20Speaker 1: the bottom of it. So many times it's like, you know,
- 41:23Speaker 1: I just I just miss watching a game and they
- 41:25Speaker 1: just don't exist right now, so and I don't really
- 41:30Speaker 1: We're still a couple of weeks from preseason games, and
- 41:32Speaker 1: even though you'll watch a series or two, you're like,
- 41:33Speaker 1: this is pretty terrible. You know, this is this is bad.
- 41:37Speaker 1: So we're still a while away from real football being played.
- 41:41Speaker 1: And I did watch on Amazon Prime Video The Agency.
- 41:46Speaker 1: I binge that over the last like three weeks. Pretty
- 41:48Speaker 1: good watch, just like kind of thriller drama CIA, you know,
- 41:55Speaker 1: undercover flipped agents, you know, kind of committing trees. It's
- 42:01Speaker 1: just it's pretty entertaining. I wouldn't give it like a
- 42:04Speaker 1: ten out of ten, but it's it's probably like a
- 42:07Speaker 1: seven and a half. Just an easy, solid watch. When
- 42:10Speaker 1: I was in Los Angeles, I Want I went to
- 42:12Speaker 1: the movie I had to kind of afternoon to kill.
- 42:15Speaker 1: That's right by the mall where I stay in Century City.
- 42:18Speaker 1: Nicest mall in America. I mean, incredible food court, best
- 42:21Speaker 1: food court I've ever been to. It's just they got
- 42:25Speaker 1: a Tesla dealership in the mall. I went to see Obsession,
- 42:29Speaker 1: which I didn't really know that much about. I was like,
- 42:32Speaker 1: I just wanted to see something this is before the Odyssey,
- 42:34Speaker 1: and I couldn't make it through a three hour movie,
- 42:37Speaker 1: so I just kind of wanted something under two hours.
- 42:40Speaker 1: And then I saw it. It was really good. I
- 42:42Speaker 1: think you can watch it now, like on either one
- 42:44Speaker 1: of the streaming services. Is they made it for under
- 42:48Speaker 1: a million dollars. This guy like created a YouTube channel
- 42:51Speaker 1: like within the last five years and kind of blew up,
- 42:54Speaker 1: Like I if that guy was a stock, I put
- 42:56Speaker 1: some cash in him that that was just an entertaining watch.
- 42:59Speaker 1: It was easy. You know. I wouldn't exactly call it
- 43:02Speaker 1: a horror movie, but it can keep you on the
- 43:04Speaker 1: edge of your seat a little bit. It was like
- 43:06Speaker 1: more disturbing probably than horror. Had a little horror to it,
- 43:11Speaker 1: but I wouldn't quite put it aggressively in that genre,
- 43:15Speaker 1: but it was. It was pretty good. It's pretty good.
- 43:18Speaker 1: And then you can kind of Wikipedia the guy and
- 43:20Speaker 1: you read about his his backstory. You're like, this is
- 43:22Speaker 1: a pretty cool story in a day and age where
- 43:24Speaker 1: it's just really hard to get things made. Not that
- 43:26Speaker 1: I'm some like Hollywood insider here but based on what
- 43:28Speaker 1: people say, to see someone have a bunch of success
- 43:32Speaker 1: that didn't have that much backing financially, it's just, you know,
- 43:35Speaker 1: it's few and far between these days. Still a couple
- 43:51Speaker 1: of mailbag questions and get out of here. What's up? Jam?
- 43:54Speaker 1: Question for the bod Giants fan, I really think we
- 43:57Speaker 1: got a steal in Mulwaga at ten in the draft.
- 44:01Speaker 1: Dude's a beast. Really wanted the Giants to take Caleb
- 44:03Speaker 1: Downs at five. Though. I get the value in drafting Reese,
- 44:08Speaker 1: but I think Downs would have been had a bigger
- 44:10Speaker 1: impact this year. My question, would you have drafted Downs
- 44:14Speaker 1: at five over Reese if you were the Giants. Side note,
- 44:19Speaker 1: we also passed on Downs at ten as well. The
- 44:26Speaker 1: thing with the draft, you know, especially if you're John Harbaugh,
- 44:30Speaker 1: you're not just drafting the guy for year one. Now.
- 44:32Speaker 1: I think Caleb Downs, if he told me he's a
- 44:35Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, it wouldn't shock me. Rvel Reese has
- 44:38Speaker 1: Hall of Fame potential as well. There is just a
- 44:41Speaker 1: lot of question marks right twenty years old. One, your
- 44:45Speaker 1: starter ceiling is as high as the sun. But it's
- 44:50Speaker 1: like they got to kind of create a position you
- 44:54Speaker 1: know what is he actually doing on a down in,
- 44:56Speaker 1: down out basis. I haven't really read much of Giants practice,
- 45:00Speaker 1: so if you probably know more than me. They obviously
- 45:03Speaker 1: have a lot of other guys at that position. But
- 45:07Speaker 1: like I bet in three years they go, Kevon Thibodeau
- 45:11Speaker 1: is not gonna be on the team, Brian Burns won't
- 45:13Speaker 1: be on the team any longer. Our two edge guys
- 45:16Speaker 1: are gonna be Carter in Reese and anytime. If you
- 45:21Speaker 1: can have too high end because they have high end talent,
- 45:26Speaker 1: if we can turn them into their ceiling, we're gonna
- 45:29Speaker 1: be ass kickers. So the value if I can turn
- 45:33Speaker 1: them into what I hope he can become, is just
- 45:37Speaker 1: higher than a safety. So I understand why they did it. Listen,
- 45:43Speaker 1: if Caleb Downs played tackle, played a different position that's
- 45:49Speaker 1: viewed as quote unquote premium pass rusher, he would have
- 45:53Speaker 1: been the second pick in the draft. But when you
- 45:56Speaker 1: are a position that just isn't value to high, it
- 46:02Speaker 1: just kind of is what it is. Off season mailback question,
- 46:07Speaker 1: how do your advertising deals typically work? Feel free to
- 46:11Speaker 1: ignore the old sponsor names no free ads. A while back,
- 46:15Speaker 1: Blank was in your main sponsor and now at seat Geek.
- 46:19Speaker 1: You've also had Zen and other tobacco companies. How often
- 46:23Speaker 1: do these deals get renewed and is it usually competitors
- 46:26Speaker 1: in the same general industries just trying to one up
- 46:29Speaker 1: each other at a time. I think it all depends,
- 46:34Speaker 1: right that. Obviously, the more money you pay, longer a
- 46:38Speaker 1: deal goes, the more exclusivity you can get in terms
- 46:43Speaker 1: of the category, in terms of what you ask for.
- 46:47Speaker 1: You know, we got some deals in motion right now
- 46:50Speaker 1: about category exclusivity. Obviously you want that. It just costs
- 46:55Speaker 1: more money. I mean, we can sign a deal for
- 46:57Speaker 1: a month. We've signed deals for six months of football season. Obviously,
- 47:02Speaker 1: Netflix multi year contract, So it just completely depends. I've
- 47:09Speaker 1: been very fortunate. We got an incredible sales team led
- 47:13Speaker 1: by Dane, my guy Terrence back in Boston, who we
- 47:17Speaker 1: locked up the deal a couple of years ago at
- 47:18Speaker 1: the Ryder Cup. Who actually I think we're redoing that deal.
- 47:22Speaker 1: So you just they just kind of hit me up, Hey,
- 47:27Speaker 1: would you be interested in this? I go fail, yeah.
- 47:30Speaker 1: I mean most of the time honestly I say yes.
- 47:33Speaker 1: So I would say I'm a pretty easy yes. The
- 47:36Speaker 1: only things that I'm uncomfortable doing are like, I don't
- 47:41Speaker 1: even know what I guess I've said no, I think
- 47:44Speaker 1: to some like some dick pills before, but that's usually
- 47:50Speaker 1: about it. And again, most of the stuff that gets
- 47:55Speaker 1: funneled by way are things that would I think fit
- 48:01Speaker 1: the quote unquote show. I mean, not everything ideally does,
- 48:04Speaker 1: but we're pretty cognitive of that. But I would say
- 48:07Speaker 1: a deal could be as short as a couple of months,
- 48:09Speaker 1: and a deal could be as long as multiple years.
- 48:12Speaker 1: And it's just like any deal any of you guys
- 48:14Speaker 1: sign in whatever industries you work with, right, the more
- 48:19Speaker 1: you pay for, the more you get. That's really that simple.
- 48:24Speaker 1: And different companies have different needs. We're very lucky here
- 48:30Speaker 1: because of you guys. I mean, we have been a
- 48:35Speaker 1: very very lucrative show for brands. It's gone very very
- 48:40Speaker 1: well because of the people listening to the show. And
- 48:45Speaker 1: the other thing is football so big Because this is
- 48:49Speaker 1: a football show, so many people want in brands by
- 48:52Speaker 1: around advertising deals around the NFL, I mean, and college football,
- 48:58Speaker 1: I mean those things I cannot It really is crazy
- 49:07Speaker 1: how important the fall months surrounding football has become in
- 49:13Speaker 1: kind of the business marketing world. It's crazy. From when
- 49:16Speaker 1: I first got into the business to what it is now.
- 49:18Speaker 1: That's why I always say I feel very fortunate that
- 49:21Speaker 1: I talk about football, heard you talk about JJ McCarthy
- 49:28Speaker 1: possibly getting traded, and I hear other people say he'll
- 49:30Speaker 1: be the next Baker Sam to go to a team
- 49:33Speaker 1: and blossom. The difference, I think is he had a
- 49:35Speaker 1: quarterback offensive coach mind, where the other two at dumpster
- 49:38Speaker 1: fire organizations. Do you have any faith that JJ has
- 49:43Speaker 1: a market for teams to go after I think one.
- 49:46Speaker 1: B Baker was a three year starter at Oklahoma and
- 49:49Speaker 1: was incredible college player. Sam Darnold was physically in a
- 49:56Speaker 1: different kind of world than JJ to me, and like
- 50:03Speaker 1: I forget if it was a sophomore year was his
- 50:05Speaker 1: big year for USC, because I think he came out
- 50:08Speaker 1: maybe he played as a redshirt freshman, then came out
- 50:10Speaker 1: after his regro sophomore year. He had just asked to
- 50:14Speaker 1: do more. So there was more ceiling physically with Sam
- 50:19Speaker 1: Darnold than JJ. And like I said, Baker had just
- 50:22Speaker 1: based on his college production, what they asked him to
- 50:24Speaker 1: do was just a different universe than JJ. I don't
- 50:28Speaker 1: really like those comps for JJ. To me, JJ would
- 50:31Speaker 1: have to kind of come in and be like an
- 50:33Speaker 1: Alex Smith version. But you're one hundred percent right. He
- 50:36Speaker 1: got to play for Kevin O'Connell or the other two
- 50:38Speaker 1: teams you know played for the other two guys played
- 50:41Speaker 1: for the Browns and the Jets, and even when they
- 50:43Speaker 1: both got traded to Carolina, it was Matt rule and
- 50:45Speaker 1: he got fired. So I don't I don't think it's
- 50:48Speaker 1: a great comp want to hear your thoughts on what
- 50:52Speaker 1: you think these players will do this season. Players. I'm
- 50:55Speaker 1: out on Harrison Junior, Tyler Schuck, the Browns quarterback room players.
- 51:00Speaker 1: I'm all in on Dj Moore, cam Ward, Caleb Downs.
- 51:06Speaker 1: Let's start with you all in. I agree with you,
- 51:07Speaker 1: Caleb Downs. I would expect defensive Rookie of the Year candidate,
- 51:11Speaker 1: if not winner Dj Moore. My guess is he has
- 51:15Speaker 1: a big year in Buffalo'd be stunned if he is
- 51:17Speaker 1: not extremely productive cam Ward. How good are they gonna
- 51:23Speaker 1: be on offense? I think is a fair question mark
- 51:27Speaker 1: first year under day ball. I got some reservations there,
- 51:32Speaker 1: clearly a very physically gifted player, but they're gonna ask
- 51:36Speaker 1: a lot of Carnel Tait right away. I don't know
- 51:39Speaker 1: if I'm all in on him yet players you're out
- 51:42Speaker 1: on quarterback room agree, Marvin Harrison Junior. I don't even
- 51:47Speaker 1: think he's the best wide receiver on his own team.
- 51:50Speaker 1: I disagree with you on Tyler Shuck. I would say
- 51:53Speaker 1: Tyler Shuck right now throws thirty three touchdowns. That's bold.
- 52:01Speaker 1: But I think and I think the Saints are good. Question,
- 52:07Speaker 1: longtime listener, are you sold on the coaching staff for
- 52:10Speaker 1: the Giants? Harball was about to get fired for the
- 52:13Speaker 1: Ravens before Lamar was drafted, and Naggie scares me as
- 52:16Speaker 1: an OC. I do think they got a lot of
- 52:18Speaker 1: just you got Naggie, you got Callahan. The one thing
- 52:23Speaker 1: Harball had for the course of the last several years
- 52:26Speaker 1: is pretty consistent group of guys in his inner circle.
- 52:30Speaker 2: You know.
- 52:30Speaker 1: It's just really Munkin been before that Roman, and Roman
- 52:34Speaker 1: was already with his brother.
- 52:36Speaker 2: You know.
- 52:36Speaker 1: All the guys that were defensive coordinators had kind of
- 52:39Speaker 1: mentored under him and kind of that defensive unit. It's
- 52:44Speaker 1: just a lot of moving parts. And I just think
- 52:46Speaker 1: the roster, the culture there, there's a lot going on.
- 52:49Speaker 1: I'm not as high as in the Giants as people
- 52:51Speaker 1: that are picking them to make the playoffs. I'm not
- 52:52Speaker 1: gonna pick the Giants to make the playoffs, so not
- 52:55Speaker 1: necessarily the coaching staff. I just I got more questions
- 52:58Speaker 1: with the personnel than I do the staff. New staff.
- 53:01Speaker 1: I think they'll be like I've known a couple of
- 53:05Speaker 1: guys that work for John and say he's incredible to
- 53:07Speaker 1: work for. Motivationally, how good he is with the staff,
- 53:10Speaker 1: the direction I mean, Lamar Jackson will have saved a
- 53:14Speaker 1: lot of people's jobs. I mean that was just that
- 53:15Speaker 1: was a great pick. The entire league passed on them,
- 53:18Speaker 1: so you get credit for doing that. Building the offense
- 53:22Speaker 1: around him, and kind of they struggled in the playoffs
- 53:25Speaker 1: relative how good they were in the regular season. But
- 53:28Speaker 1: you know, to be the number one seed twice and
- 53:30Speaker 1: not make the Super Bowls a little bit of a letdown.
- 53:35Speaker 1: But I expect this here to be a little bumpy.
- 53:37Speaker 1: Maybe I'll change my tune by like October, but I
- 53:41Speaker 1: would say like seven eight wins. Question for the Pod,
- 53:45Speaker 1: which quarterback do you think will be the next to
- 53:47Speaker 1: receive a contract? C J Stroud, Jalen Hurts or Baker Mayfield,
- 53:51Speaker 1: maybe Stafford because of age, Bryce Young if he has
- 53:54Speaker 1: one good season. I don't think any of these guys
- 53:58Speaker 1: or teams are rushing to you know, I think CJ. Stroud.
- 54:04Speaker 1: I don't know, man, are they gonna give you know,
- 54:11Speaker 1: if he turns into Alex Smith, which is what he
- 54:14Speaker 1: needs to do for them to be good. What does
- 54:16Speaker 1: that contract look like?
- 54:17Speaker 2: Like?
- 54:17Speaker 1: I don't envision them breaking him off with some crazy
- 54:21Speaker 1: amount of money. What you're Jalen Hurts still has multiple
- 54:25Speaker 1: years on his contract. Like they're not giving Jason Jalen
- 54:29Speaker 1: to extension. Baker is just like it's either happening or
- 54:32Speaker 1: it's not right. And to me, Baker would have to
- 54:35Speaker 1: have a disastrous season. And I have a market in
- 54:38Speaker 1: the off season for some of these teams that aren't
- 54:40Speaker 1: drafting high. So I would say Baker Mayfield is based
- 54:43Speaker 1: on time and if Baker Mayfield throws thirty five touchdowns
- 54:46Speaker 1: and the offense is good, they'll give him a contract.
- 54:49Speaker 1: R E meaning regarding Tyreek Hill's no power comment. As
- 54:53Speaker 1: a former college athlete who's been through a major leg rehab,
- 54:57Speaker 1: that's just a normal part of the process. You focus
- 55:01Speaker 1: entirely on rage of motion. When you switch to strength,
- 55:04Speaker 1: the leg literally feels useless. My impression was he'll likely
- 55:08Speaker 1: play again, but not ready until mid season, but it's
- 55:12Speaker 1: on the table. He could be a shell of in
- 55:14Speaker 1: the athlete that he once was. I I think when
- 55:18Speaker 1: I talked about the no power, I didn't mean that
- 55:21Speaker 1: he wouldn't gain some strength over the course of time.
- 55:25Speaker 1: I do stand by, like I'm out on this. Tyreek's
- 55:29Speaker 1: game at his size was all about being. I mean,
- 55:33Speaker 1: he was a Ferrari. He's one of the most unique
- 55:35Speaker 1: players we've ever seen. Honestly, he's one of the best
- 55:37Speaker 1: wide receivers I've ever seen for being that small. He
- 55:42Speaker 1: just he was in his heyday, he was incredible. But
- 55:47Speaker 1: like you have that significant of a knee injury. I mean,
- 55:50Speaker 1: we're talking it's September, so I am I going on
- 55:56Speaker 1: on lim to say he doesn't play this year, and
- 55:59Speaker 1: I think he's just never. Really He's got a lot
- 56:02Speaker 1: of baggage off the field too, So to me, you
- 56:04Speaker 1: lose a step kind of your package. Being small, super
- 56:09Speaker 1: fast guy. It's not like he can just become a
- 56:13Speaker 1: possession wide receiver. So I hear what you're saying. And
- 56:15Speaker 1: if I came off like he's never he's gonna have
- 56:17Speaker 1: no power to the rest of his life. I didn't
- 56:19Speaker 1: mean necessarily that, but thanks for the clarification. But yeah,
- 56:23Speaker 1: I mean it's I think it's I think it's probably
- 56:26Speaker 1: over well. End on this. I just got engaged a
- 56:30Speaker 1: few weeks ago to my long term girlfriend. Congratulations. Yesterday
- 56:34Speaker 1: we found out she was a few weeks pregnant. Things
- 56:39Speaker 1: are going well for my guy. I'm twenty six and
- 56:42Speaker 1: I make decent money living in Canada, brutal taxes. Any
- 56:46Speaker 1: tips for financially prepping for a baby. Also, should we
- 56:50Speaker 1: push the wedding back and have the first kid, rush
- 56:54Speaker 1: the wedding before having a or rush the wedding before
- 56:56Speaker 1: having a kid. Obviously that depends on your family dynamics,
- 57:00Speaker 1: your personal dynamics. It's different for everybody in terms of
- 57:05Speaker 1: like rush the wedding. I've known people that have done that.
- 57:09Speaker 1: I've known people that have found yourself in a similar
- 57:11Speaker 1: situation and waited. It's kind of on her too, I
- 57:14Speaker 1: mean at this point in time, like she couldn't drink
- 57:16Speaker 1: or you can enjoy the wedding, but it's not quite
- 57:19Speaker 1: the same of like a true party for her, which
- 57:22Speaker 1: is it's really the day is about her, not necessarily
- 57:24Speaker 1: you so that's personally I would push it back. My
- 57:32Speaker 1: wife definitely, if she had been in that position, would
- 57:35Speaker 1: have pushed it back. There was no way she was
- 57:37Speaker 1: gonna not enjoy yourself at the wedding. But again, that
- 57:39Speaker 1: is a very very personal situation for her. You know,
- 57:45Speaker 1: the one thing I've noticed about having a kid, if
- 57:50Speaker 1: you like, especially when they're really as a baby, they're
- 57:55Speaker 1: kind of like a dog, whether you like. The dog
- 57:58Speaker 1: doesn't really care, Like they don't even know if you
- 58:00Speaker 1: have money or don't have money. And the baby, like,
- 58:04Speaker 1: right when you have the first couple months is basically
- 58:07Speaker 1: just in a couple swaddles. You need money for some
- 58:10Speaker 1: diapers and drinking from your wife's boob. So in terms
- 58:15Speaker 1: of money, early on, you don't need that much. Now,
- 58:19Speaker 1: once they start like Jack, you need toys, You need
- 58:22Speaker 1: some space for him to kind of roam around. It
- 58:25Speaker 1: changes a little bit, But early on I remember having
- 58:29Speaker 1: this thought like, he doesn't we could be in a
- 58:31Speaker 1: little shack as long as it wasn't one hundred degrees inside,
- 58:35Speaker 1: we'd be okay. So you don't really need that much.
- 58:42Speaker 1: I would say, uh, I don't. I'm trying to think
- 58:48Speaker 1: a couple things you know she pours breast milk out
- 58:52Speaker 1: the bottle washer. I think you know, I don't know
- 58:56Speaker 1: how much it costs. We got it in our baby registry.
- 58:59Speaker 1: I think is a must. I mean we use that
- 59:01Speaker 1: thing ten times a day. Uh, go through a lot
- 59:06Speaker 1: of diapers now at this point, go I mean he
- 59:09Speaker 1: has days where he goes through seven T shirts in
- 59:11Speaker 1: one day, pukes on him, spits on him, poops on them, shorts, clothes.
- 59:16Speaker 1: You go through a lot of clothes and onesies. But
- 59:19Speaker 1: if I remember, like first couple of months, you're basically
- 59:21Speaker 1: just in a swaddle and a diaper, So you just
- 59:24Speaker 1: need I mean a decent amount of swaddles because they're
- 59:26Speaker 1: gonna have some blowouts in those two. But you don't
- 59:29Speaker 1: need that much. Obviously they get older. I guess they
- 59:33Speaker 1: need a little bit more. But again, babies a little
- 59:37Speaker 1: like dogs. They don't really judge. They're not judgmental whether
- 59:40Speaker 1: you live in like a mansion or whether you have
- 59:42Speaker 1: a tiny little home. Like they just want to be
- 59:45Speaker 1: around you, which is honestly kind of refreshing. Like guy
- 59:48Speaker 1: likes me, not because of anything else beside, I'm just
- 59:53Speaker 1: there holding them, which kind of makes you feel good. Um,
- 59:57Speaker 1: so congratulations person I wanted Early on, I was like,
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: let's just go to the courthouse and get married. We
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: don't need to have a wedding. And then a guy
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: I went to this I forget the event, but I
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: was talking to a guy I didn't even know him,
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: and we just started bullshitting because I was adamant, like
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: I do not need a wedding. I didn't want a wedding.
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: This was not something I'd grown up dreaming about. I
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: wanted to get married, but I would have been cool
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: going to a courthouse, having some buddies over and doing it.
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: And he told me that again, it doesn't matter, it's
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: all weddings are all relative to you personally, but like
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: it is something that you'll look back upon that you'll
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: want to do. So and this guy kind of sold
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: me on the fact that I kind of came around,
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: because I mean, it wouldn't have been my call anyway.
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: We were gonna have one, she was having one. But
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: I'm glad we did. I'm glad we did. And we
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: both got pretty drunk that night. But good times, audiolse
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: enjoy the weekend and I will. I'll see you monday.
- 1:01:03Speaker 1: See it the volume m HM