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- 0:08Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we are always running from
- 0:11Speaker 1: the law. I am Craig Rosenthal here for Man Versus
- 0:15Speaker 1: Model week eight, where we do our picks every week.
- 0:20Speaker 1: We're here in the Chris Westling podcast studio, me and
- 0:24Speaker 1: Cynthia Freeland.
- 0:25Speaker 2: You need to tell everyone, friend, Okay, I will because
- 0:29Speaker 2: I'm a little and it's really about you.
- 0:31Speaker 3: I'm a little frazzled. Right now.
- 0:33Speaker 1: My family is in the building and they're gonna watch
- 0:37Speaker 1: us tape game debut and we're going to the Rams game.
- 0:41Speaker 3: We're taping this ahead of time. On Thursday, they get
- 0:43Speaker 3: score predictions for the game.
- 0:45Speaker 1: We are going to have a special guest later on
- 0:48Speaker 1: in the show. We've got an extra microphone set up
- 0:51Speaker 1: for the end of the show. But yeah, I was
- 0:55Speaker 1: trying to come into the building through security and we
- 0:58Speaker 1: actually put their names in. Usually we just kind of
- 1:00Speaker 1: come in with you know, that's what supposed to do,
- 1:03Speaker 1: I guess, but you know, this time we tried to
- 1:04Speaker 1: do it and put everyone's name and when we got there,
- 1:09Speaker 1: we found out that miners are not allowed into the
- 1:13Speaker 1: building during weekdays, during school days or something. There's some rule,
- 1:17Speaker 1: and I thought, okay, you know, my name's on the
- 1:20Speaker 1: show now NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal.
- 1:22Speaker 3: Like I was like, Oh, they're just going to come
- 1:23Speaker 3: watch watch doing the show. We're going to the game after. Okay.
- 1:26Speaker 1: Then they brought HR down. HR came down, A second
- 1:30Speaker 1: level of people came down, and they again got the
- 1:33Speaker 1: no did you respond with football is family? I just
- 1:38Speaker 1: said okay, thank you, and then we left, and then
- 1:41Speaker 1: we walked up three flights of stairs and then we went.
- 1:44Speaker 1: We went in the same that we always go in,
- 1:47Speaker 1: which is just the front door essentially.
- 1:49Speaker 3: And we've snuck.
- 1:50Speaker 1: And yes, if my family gets taken away and put
- 1:53Speaker 1: in jail during this show, I will miss them. That's
- 1:57Speaker 1: why Walker was saying. As we were walking, I was like,
- 1:59Speaker 1: the and they put us in jail. I was like, no,
- 2:01Speaker 1: I don't think so, Okay, this is ours our show
- 2:04Speaker 1: where we go through and make three picks each and
- 2:06Speaker 1: every week against the spread. Sometimes I make a few extra.
- 2:09Speaker 1: Every time I make a few extra. At the end,
- 2:11Speaker 1: I want to start with good news. Yeah, you have
- 2:13Speaker 1: had three straight winning weeks, you are over five hundred.
- 2:17Speaker 1: You're ahead of me for the season, but only by
- 2:19Speaker 1: a game. I've had two straight winning weeks, so either
- 2:22Speaker 1: way we are picking winners, and yes, first you go first,
- 2:26Speaker 1: I'll go Packers minus three and a half.
- 2:29Speaker 3: Yep, okay, okay.
- 2:31Speaker 1: There's a whole thing that's happening each and every week
- 2:33Speaker 1: where a team plays the Patriots, and then after they
- 2:36Speaker 1: play the Patriots, everyone thinks they're good because the Patriots
- 2:40Speaker 1: are so bad. We saw the Jets. I was foolish
- 2:43Speaker 1: enough to be like, this is one of the biggest
- 2:44Speaker 1: moments of the season. The Jets are a real team now. No, no,
- 2:49Speaker 1: think about other teams that the Patriots have played after
- 2:54Speaker 1: that matchup. Basically, every time you play the Patriots, you
- 2:56Speaker 1: think you've got to go in San Francisco, like, okay,
- 2:59Speaker 1: they finally got to go in their role and they
- 3:01Speaker 1: crushed me. The next week they play the Cardinals, like
- 3:03Speaker 1: every team is going to look good against the Patriots.
- 3:05Speaker 1: The Dolphins, they beat the Patriots, so maybe they got
- 3:08Speaker 1: a back on jug No, they go right back to
- 3:09Speaker 1: the losing after that. This is the number thirty two
- 3:12Speaker 1: defense in the NFL according to DVA. That's in Jacksonville.
- 3:15Speaker 1: I am not falling for that. They had a slightly
- 3:17Speaker 1: better game against New England. They didn't even look good
- 3:20Speaker 1: That's all I really need to know is that this
- 3:22Speaker 1: Packers team versus the number thirty two defense in the NFL.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur is just putting up pictures of these Jaguars
- 3:30Speaker 1: linebackers on the wall and he's saying, which one am
- 3:33Speaker 1: I going to pick on next? Like I don't even
- 3:34Speaker 1: care Ifoye a. Lukan is back for this game? Which
- 3:36Speaker 1: one am I going to pick on next? In coverage,
- 3:39Speaker 1: Jeff dot Hefley, the defensive coordinator for the Packers, I think,
- 3:42Speaker 1: is doing a good job before yes, creating pressures, simulated pressures,
- 3:47Speaker 1: so that is going against an average Jaguars offense, but
- 3:50Speaker 1: it's really about the Packers offense going up against the
- 3:53Speaker 1: Jaguars defense.
- 3:54Speaker 3: Also, just a very healthy team.
- 3:56Speaker 1: One of the few teams you know, knock on wood,
- 3:58Speaker 1: they can look on the injury report, almost no one
- 4:00Speaker 1: is going to be out for this game, like Carrington
- 4:02Speaker 1: Valentine is their only significant player out.
- 4:04Speaker 3: Let's go Packers minus three and five. Okay, feel great?
- 4:07Speaker 2: All right?
- 4:07Speaker 3: Your first pick this will be r this is my
- 4:09Speaker 3: first pick.
- 4:09Speaker 2: Let's just go with Pittsburgh minus six and a half
- 4:12Speaker 2: m m Okay, Pittsburgh by a touchdown. I like it.
- 4:16Speaker 2: Is not that I don't like the Giants, I just
- 4:17Speaker 2: don't think they're very good.
- 4:20Speaker 3: Dexter Lawrence, there are the purposes that is not liking them.
- 4:23Speaker 2: Well. I like the franchise, I like the ownership. They
- 4:26Speaker 2: treat people really well. They've got people there who really care.
- 4:30Speaker 2: But and Dexter Lawrence.
- 4:31Speaker 3: Is None of that matters for this spread though, So
- 4:34Speaker 3: I didn't pick this.
- 4:35Speaker 2: Bread up, Okay, I'm just saying that I think that Pittsburgh,
- 4:38Speaker 2: especially with Russell Wilson, now that we saw the trajectory
- 4:41Speaker 2: from the beginning of the game to the end last
- 4:43Speaker 2: week against the Jets, things just got better and better.
- 4:46Speaker 2: I think this is a situation where Pittsburgh by a
- 4:49Speaker 2: touchdown feels very achievable in a game that I think
- 4:52Speaker 2: right now it's at thirty six and a half, I
- 4:53Speaker 2: think it'll be a higher scoring game than that.
- 4:55Speaker 1: Okay, I like that too, because Daniel Jones really miss
- 5:00Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas's left tackle last week, and now you think
- 5:02Speaker 1: about the matchup against TJ. Watt and Alex Highsmith, who
- 5:06Speaker 1: might be lining up on that side, who's healthy and
- 5:08Speaker 1: played last week, and this front just Daniel Jones has
- 5:12Speaker 1: not gotten anything going the last couple of weeks, so
- 5:14Speaker 1: it's just hard to see them scoring enough points.
- 5:17Speaker 3: I'm with you.
- 5:17Speaker 1: I'm gonna go AFC North here. Okay, Bengals minus two
- 5:22Speaker 1: and a half. Now, I know you disagree with this.
- 5:25Speaker 3: I have a feeling that's good.
- 5:29Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good.
- 5:30Speaker 3: The Eagles are rickety. Okay, they're not as good as
- 5:33Speaker 3: their record. They're four and two.
- 5:36Speaker 1: If you look like Dvoa, for instance, has them about
- 5:38Speaker 1: twentieth for the scene, that actually is how it feels
- 5:40Speaker 1: to me. They're about a slightly below average offense, maybe
- 5:44Speaker 1: average below average defense. Have played well the last two
- 5:49Speaker 1: weeks against bad opponents. Now they're playing against Joe Burrow.
- 5:52Speaker 1: We'll see if those defensive improvements the Eagles have had
- 5:56Speaker 1: will stay consistent. But this was one where I just
- 5:59Speaker 1: looked at the numb and I just thought it'd be
- 6:01Speaker 1: three and a half. Sometimes you have a feel of
- 6:04Speaker 1: like what the numbers are going to be. And to me,
- 6:06Speaker 1: if they're giving two two and a half points for
- 6:08Speaker 1: home field, they're basically saying these two teams are even.
- 6:12Speaker 1: And as you know, Adam Sandler said, I disagree, you know,
- 6:18Speaker 1: I disagree that.
- 6:20Speaker 2: These he's the only one to ever say that. Here's
- 6:24Speaker 2: the thing. My only problem with that, and this is
- 6:28Speaker 2: the one thing. And you talk about the defensive improvements,
- 6:31Speaker 2: it's thirteen sacks over the past two games after their bye. Yes,
- 6:34Speaker 2: so that's a really big uptick in pressure. Now, is
- 6:37Speaker 2: that fugaisy or not? We will find out, because the
- 6:40Speaker 2: Bengals allow the second lowest pressure rate on their quarterback. However,
- 6:43Speaker 2: on the times they do get pressure on the quarterback,
- 6:45Speaker 2: it turns into a sack at a very high rate.
- 6:47Speaker 2: So it's kind of all or nothing when it comes
- 6:50Speaker 2: to if the pressure works and results in a sack
- 6:52Speaker 2: or not. And I'm curious to see if there are
- 6:55Speaker 2: enough different weapons. So will the run game be enough
- 6:58Speaker 2: against that front? I just think that the Eagles get
- 7:00Speaker 2: up for some like really weird games and they're a
- 7:03Speaker 2: very inconsistent team. But this is like what Vic Fangio does.
- 7:06Speaker 2: Like this is the as you know, whatever we've seen
- 7:09Speaker 2: for years. There's these games where it's they rarely play
- 7:12Speaker 2: each other, they're not even in the same conference. This
- 7:15Speaker 2: is where Vic fangs like, you know what, I actually
- 7:17Speaker 2: have the perfect antidote to Joe Burrow.
- 7:20Speaker 1: You know what, he has a hard defense to learn,
- 7:21Speaker 1: and we've seen it over time that takes a little
- 7:23Speaker 1: while to get going, and they've gotten a going since
- 7:25Speaker 1: the bye week.
- 7:25Speaker 3: They have improvements.
- 7:27Speaker 1: It's really not so much about the defense, Yep, it's
- 7:30Speaker 1: about the Eagles offense. I just watched Jalen Hurts and
- 7:34Speaker 1: he's just not comfortable right now. I don't think he's
- 7:36Speaker 1: seeing the field right now, and I think missing his
- 7:39Speaker 1: left tackle is a big deal against Trey Hendrickson. Sam
- 7:41Speaker 1: Horbard's playing better, and yeah, I do think the Bengals'
- 7:45Speaker 1: still there though. Yeah, no, I get it. This is
- 7:47Speaker 1: not one where I think it's crazy. It's just if
- 7:48Speaker 1: it was three and a half, I probably would have
- 7:50Speaker 1: ignored it. It's more, I do not think these two
- 7:52Speaker 1: teams are equal. I think the Bengals are a better
- 7:54Speaker 1: football team than the Eagles, so I will take them
- 7:57Speaker 1: at home.
- 7:58Speaker 3: And by the way, how dare you.
- 8:02Speaker 1: Besmirched the name of Adam Sandler and his character in
- 8:05Speaker 1: the movie Uncut Gems.
- 8:07Speaker 2: I'm definitely not besmirching it.
- 8:09Speaker 1: It's a gambling movie, so I think some of our
- 8:11Speaker 1: listens I don't even recognize it.
- 8:13Speaker 3: And it's just I disagree. You have to do.
- 8:17Speaker 2: You have to do it with more like goose. So yeah, exactly, Okay,
- 8:20Speaker 2: you're up. I'm up. Okay Houston and six points soo
- 8:24Speaker 2: Houston by a touchdown?
- 8:25Speaker 3: Baby.
- 8:26Speaker 2: I think God against Indianapolis.
- 8:28Speaker 1: I think my son Walker, who's not really paying attention
- 8:31Speaker 1: right now, I think he's on his computer.
- 8:33Speaker 3: Maybe he is paying attention.
- 8:34Speaker 1: I will agree with that because he is a big
- 8:37Speaker 1: Texans fan as well. Why do you like the Texans
- 8:39Speaker 1: this week? Over Jacksonville? I mean over Indianapolis?
- 8:43Speaker 3: They won?
- 8:43Speaker 1: That game was close in Week one Texan's Colts Division matchup.
- 8:46Speaker 1: They've been pretty close over the last couple of years,
- 8:49Speaker 1: splitting games mostly.
- 8:50Speaker 2: Yep.
- 8:50Speaker 3: Why do you like the Texans?
- 8:52Speaker 2: I think this is like the what happens to good
- 8:53Speaker 2: quarterbacks trajectory meeting when you're really good and you don't
- 8:56Speaker 2: even necessarily need be as good as offensive rookie of
- 8:58Speaker 2: the year, but when really good defenses specifically figure out
- 9:02Speaker 2: ways to stop you. Remember when everyone was like, hey,
- 9:05Speaker 2: good news, here's here's the thing. We're never giving single
- 9:08Speaker 2: high coverage to Patrick Mahomes. Well now they're doing that
- 9:10Speaker 2: same type of thing with c J.
- 9:12Speaker 3: Stroud.
- 9:12Speaker 2: They're figuring out ways to specifically adapt to his unique
- 9:15Speaker 2: skill set. What are you laughing at?
- 9:17Speaker 1: The family is now apparently being escorted out of the building.
- 9:20Speaker 1: We were gonna have Walker come on the show, and
- 9:23Speaker 1: they're getting booted. I'll see you guys in in fifteen minutes.
- 9:26Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, it's good for the show. It's a
- 9:29Speaker 1: good story.
- 9:29Speaker 2: Bye Walker.
- 9:30Speaker 3: Unreal, he's so cute and they're gonna have so much time.
- 9:33Speaker 2: Oh so they're going to the game. Yeah, can't you
- 9:36Speaker 2: call like Stan Kronkey? I mean, don't you have like
- 9:40Speaker 2: a line into him? Isn't here our landlord? Like?
- 9:43Speaker 3: They don't have any lines into anyone. This is sad.
- 9:45Speaker 1: I've done a bad job as a as a parent
- 9:47Speaker 1: and you really tried though, I'm I can't believe it.
- 9:52Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
- 9:53Speaker 1: Maybe they maybe they were like popping up on the
- 9:55Speaker 1: on the like cameras. That's kind of exciting to think about.
- 9:59Speaker 1: I'm so sad. Walker was going to take the Texans too.
- 10:01Speaker 1: He's going to come in and make a pick. Makes
- 10:04Speaker 1: me feel better, you like it not allowed? My final
- 10:06Speaker 1: pick will be the Bucks plus two and a half.
- 10:08Speaker 1: I love that we're just doing the show and let's
- 10:11Speaker 1: just get through it. I like, no, it's not Bucks
- 10:14Speaker 1: two and a half. Actually it's going to be Denver
- 10:15Speaker 1: minus nine. I changed my mind at the last minute.
- 10:17Speaker 1: I like that, Denver minus nine. Here's how many games
- 10:21Speaker 1: the Panthers have lost by nine points or less this season.
- 10:24Speaker 3: Zero, There's not one. Their six losses are by the
- 10:28Speaker 3: final score or you know result that they lost by
- 10:32Speaker 3: thirty seven, twenty three, ten, twenty six, thirty seven, eighteen
- 10:38Speaker 3: thirty three. That's crazy. I see thy.
- 10:40Speaker 2: Locker combination growing up, like thirty seven, ten thirty three,
- 10:43Speaker 2: something like that, like the screen. But here's the other
- 10:45Speaker 2: thing with with Bryce Young, I don't know. It just
- 10:49Speaker 2: makes it even worse for me.
- 10:51Speaker 3: Right, they didn't want him to start.
- 10:52Speaker 2: No, they didn't want to. Like I think any Dalton's better.
- 10:55Speaker 2: I know Andy Dalton's had hand injury whatever.
- 10:58Speaker 1: You know, some bad games the last couple of games, relatively,
- 11:00Speaker 1: But the reason why he was starting was because he
- 11:02Speaker 1: was better, and we saw that he was better for
- 11:04Speaker 1: a couple of weeks and.
- 11:04Speaker 2: He was still Denver defense is not messing around either.
- 11:07Speaker 3: It is so good.
- 11:08Speaker 1: They have a little extra rest because they're coming off
- 11:10Speaker 1: of taps.
- 11:11Speaker 2: Are ten yes, coming fly back.
- 11:14Speaker 3: He's coming back. Baron Browning came back last week.
- 11:16Speaker 2: Aaron Browning on his thigh pads as the Grim Reaper
- 11:21Speaker 2: because he's coming after quarterback souls Fair Halloween beamed. I
- 11:25Speaker 2: hate just so everyone else.
- 11:27Speaker 3: I still am. I can't.
- 11:28Speaker 1: I can't believe they were just taking away and I
- 11:30Speaker 1: can't believe we're still doing this podcast. Let's let's wrap
- 11:33Speaker 1: up with your third pick here.
- 11:34Speaker 2: Okay, last, but not least. You know what, I think
- 11:40Speaker 2: this one's weird because it's a seven. But the Jets.
- 11:43Speaker 2: I think the Jets unfortunately beat your Patriots by Alisa touchdown,
- 11:47Speaker 2: because I think this is where the you know, we
- 11:49Speaker 2: saw the DeVante Adams things start to have him happen,
- 11:51Speaker 2: and we've seen Aaron Rodgers. You the world's biggest words
- 11:54Speaker 2: this year. I don't even like. I was reading that
- 11:56Speaker 2: presser and I was like, DANU want I speak French
- 11:59Speaker 2: to Deumont? Sure? What do you what it means? What
- 12:03Speaker 2: does it mean?
- 12:04Speaker 1: It means like the end of something or just like
- 12:07Speaker 1: a fitting conclusion to something I don't know, like the
- 12:10Speaker 1: closing chapter. That's what I think it means. But you're
- 12:12Speaker 1: putting me on the spot.
- 12:13Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry, I didn't mean too. I thought you knew.
- 12:15Speaker 3: I mean most of the listeners might not know that
- 12:17Speaker 3: he used.
- 12:21Speaker 2: Them of this place.
- 12:22Speaker 3: I asked, don't you think the Patriots maybe maybe they'll
- 12:25Speaker 3: respond to Jared Rod Mayo saying that they were soft?
- 12:29Speaker 2: Is he going to play No? That would be better.
- 12:32Speaker 3: They've been so bad.
- 12:33Speaker 1: I initially had them in my little box of extra
- 12:36Speaker 1: picks at the box plus seven just at the Jets. Man,
- 12:40Speaker 1: do the Jets deserve to be a seven point favorite
- 12:42Speaker 1: over anyone? I know, they destroyed the Patriots the first
- 12:45Speaker 1: time around. Usually it's tough to destroy a team twice,
- 12:47Speaker 1: Like the second game would be close when you played
- 12:49Speaker 1: twice in close.
- 12:51Speaker 2: Except for the it's not really a like they're not
- 12:53Speaker 2: as soft as Gerrod Mayo is saying, like they're playing
- 12:56Speaker 2: with guys we've never even heard.
- 12:57Speaker 3: Of before, especially on the offective line.
- 12:59Speaker 2: I mean, there's to be happy about with Drake may
- 13:01Speaker 2: But then on the other side, it's like the old
- 13:03Speaker 2: lines confusing the defense, like all of their best defensive
- 13:06Speaker 2: players are on their couch or you know, on the sideline. Yes,
- 13:09Speaker 2: it's it's not were there, you know in other teams
- 13:12Speaker 2: like in Atlanta.
- 13:14Speaker 3: I can't imagine the when I get from my wife
- 13:17Speaker 3: Emica about this entire thing.
- 13:19Speaker 1: I blew it. I'm in big I'm in big trouble.
- 13:22Speaker 1: So uh, that's my last sorry with the Panthers.
- 13:25Speaker 2: You want me to go to But if I go distract,
- 13:27Speaker 2: should I go? No?
- 13:28Speaker 3: That that part is over. We blew it and I
- 13:31Speaker 3: don't know.
- 13:32Speaker 1: I don't know how they found us here hiding out
- 13:34Speaker 1: in the in the control room, but I will, I'll try.
- 13:37Speaker 3: I'll find out soon.
- 13:38Speaker 2: Did you pick your third one? Just go quick, you
- 13:39Speaker 2: don't even have it was.
- 13:40Speaker 1: The Denver so to review. I took the Packers minus
- 13:43Speaker 1: three and a half. I took the Bengals minus two
- 13:45Speaker 1: and a half, and I took the Broncos minus nine.
- 13:48Speaker 1: I have two straight winning weeks. And your picks were
- 13:51Speaker 1: the Jets minus seven, the Steelers minus six and a half.
- 13:55Speaker 1: And then what was the first pick.
- 13:58Speaker 2: Was me and Walker.
- 13:59Speaker 3: I liked that a lot. That's Walk and I like
- 14:01Speaker 3: that a lot. My little extra picks, by the way,
- 14:03Speaker 3: which haven't been doing as well lately, went one to
- 14:04Speaker 3: two last week.
- 14:05Speaker 1: We're at twelve and seven for the season. These are
- 14:07Speaker 1: just little really, just if you're curious for a little
- 14:09Speaker 1: extra analysis on one they do like.
- 14:11Speaker 3: I like the Bucks as a home underdog this week.
- 14:14Speaker 1: I just think it's gonna be tough again a division
- 14:16Speaker 1: matchup where you're trying to sweep a team. I think
- 14:18Speaker 1: the foundation of that offense is actually really good in
- 14:21Speaker 1: terms of the offensive line and the scheme and so
- 14:24Speaker 1: that that they can maybe surprise people. I hate this
- 14:27Speaker 1: Falcons defense, their pass rush.
- 14:28Speaker 3: I just don't think they're a good team.
- 14:30Speaker 1: I kind of like the Saints getting seven points in
- 14:32Speaker 1: Los Angeles against the Chargers. They have about five or
- 14:35Speaker 1: six healthy starters coming back this week. Just don't know
- 14:38Speaker 1: if the Chargers are worth the way they play football.
- 14:40Speaker 1: Seven points is a lot. And then yeah, I agreed
- 14:43Speaker 1: with you on Washington, So that was another one. We
- 14:45Speaker 1: both kind of like Washington as a little extra pick.
- 14:47Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 14:47Speaker 2: I like Washing either way, and if Jane Daniels was playing,
- 14:50Speaker 2: it is a great pick.
- 14:51Speaker 3: Either way, we like it.
- 14:55Speaker 2: I'm feeling no, I'm sorry, I don't know what to say.
- 14:58Speaker 2: I like, go fix the family. I will try to
- 15:01Speaker 2: get the family back to the family first.
- 15:03Speaker 3: That's it.
- 15:04Speaker 1: We will be back on Sunday with our recap show.
- 15:07Speaker 1: That's it for the week. Love everyone, tune in, go
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- 15:20Speaker 1: And yeah, when the Rosenthal family is on the loose,
- 15:23Speaker 1: on the running from the law, you know football is
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