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IFH 808: Behind the Screams: How Shae Smolik Brought The Hatred to Life! · Indie Film Hustle® - A Filmmaking Podcast

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Speaker 3: Hey, Shay, thank you so much for coming on the show.
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Speaker 4: Thank you for having you.
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Speaker 3: Know, shit, I usually ask everyone if they've ever went
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Speaker 3: to film school. But you're you're, you're you're ten years old,
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Speaker 3: and uh, you're not at that college level yet, So
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Speaker 3: I want to not yet, So I'm going to change
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Speaker 3: the question just a little bit and ask, you know
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Speaker 3: what what got you into the film industry. Have you
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Speaker 3: always had a love for acting? You know, as you
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Speaker 3: were growing up.
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Speaker 4: Well, actually I am from iowhen I started to see
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Speaker 4: here and I will call it the Peak Agency, and
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Speaker 4: uh Sam, and then you said, I think you yeah,
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Speaker 4: it's I got a few commercials.
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Speaker 3: Hey Shay, I'm sorry, I think the call just dropped
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Speaker 3: a little bit.
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Speaker 4: We said go to l A. So now we're going
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Speaker 4: back and forth from LA, and that's how I got started.
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Speaker 3: Hey Shay, I'm sorry. I think the call just dropped
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Speaker 3: there for a second. It just it seems can you
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Speaker 3: hear me? Okay, yes, okay, excellent. I'm sorry for it
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Speaker 3: seemed to be just it just dipped there for a second.
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Speaker 3: I'm very sorry. Would you mind just answering that question again?
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Speaker 3: I apologize, Yeah, of course.
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Speaker 4: So I here and I will call it the Peak
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Speaker 4: Agncy and I and then he said you should get
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Speaker 4: in started with a few, so you should go to
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Speaker 4: a bigger market. So then he said you should go
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Speaker 4: to Chicago. A couple of commercials and a couple of
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Speaker 4: a little we go back and he says you should
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Speaker 4: go to a much must market. So then he says
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Speaker 4: you need to go to LA if you want to.
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Speaker 4: So now we're in LA, going back and forth to where.
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Speaker 3: Uh shall I'm sorry to interrupt. I think the call
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Speaker 3: just cut out again. I'm very sorry. If you could
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Speaker 3: hear me. I'm going to go do one quick thing
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Speaker 3: and I'm going to try to establish a better connection.
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure if it's just maybe the call reception,
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Speaker 3: but I will be right back. Okay, Oh hey, Shay,
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Speaker 3: I'm back. Sorry about that. I actually just changed the
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Speaker 3: setting really quickly. And uh I also connected to my
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Speaker 3: router directly, so hopefully that'll that'll be a little bit better. Okay, okay, cool,
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Speaker 3: So I'm sorry. We can we try that one more time.
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Speaker 3: I'm just I'll feed you the same. It's like being
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Speaker 3: on a film set, right, I'm doing multiple takes, so
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Speaker 3: uh so so chey. You know, you know, obviously I
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Speaker 3: always ask everyone how they got started. And since you're
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Speaker 3: not old enough to be in college yet, you know,
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Speaker 3: could I could? I so? So? Were you always interested
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Speaker 3: in acting even from an early age? I was.
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Speaker 4: So. I started here in Iowa because that's this is
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Speaker 4: where I was born, and Trump and I started with
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Speaker 4: a little agency here in Iowa. I started modeling with them,
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Speaker 4: and then I started to get more into acting. I
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Speaker 4: did a couple of commercial here, and then he says,
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Speaker 4: if you want to go to a bigger market, you
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Speaker 4: can go to Chicago. So now that's like a five
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Speaker 4: hour away trip from Iowa. So then sometimes we drive
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Speaker 4: out there to do some commercial auditions and TV auditions.
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Speaker 4: And then he said, if you want to really pursue
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Speaker 4: your dream, you need to go to a much bigger market.
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Speaker 4: So then we went out to LA and I got
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Speaker 4: a couple commercials and then some TV shows and then
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Speaker 4: online things. And then he said, yeah, now we go
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Speaker 4: back and forth from LA to Iowa. Nine months out
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Speaker 4: of the year we're in LA.
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Speaker 3: So what was it like when your first time going
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Speaker 3: out to LA at such like a young age, you know,
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Speaker 3: what were you like impressions of the whole city.
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Speaker 4: My impressions were, you know, it's such a big city
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Speaker 4: that it's so busy and there's a lot of trash
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Speaker 4: there and it's not like Iowa at all, not one
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Speaker 4: single bit. So I was really I was kind of
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Speaker 4: nervous because I had never been to that bit of
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Speaker 4: a state before. And yeah, so he so I was
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Speaker 4: very nervous, but then I got into it more and
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Speaker 4: now I like it there.
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Speaker 3: So when you go around yeah, I mean because it is.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you know l L A is uh.
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Speaker 3: You know, I had a friend who went out there
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Speaker 3: one time and she actually went out there for business
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Speaker 3: and she said, David was so smuggy out there.
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Speaker 4: Yes, it gets very small out there.
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Speaker 3: So as you're going to all these auditions, Shay, you know,
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Speaker 3: what are some of the things that you're noticing? Like
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Speaker 3: do you do you sort of like have a game plan?
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Speaker 3: Like for instance, you mentioned these commercials. You know, do
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Speaker 3: you sort of know exactly you know what you want
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Speaker 3: to do before we get in there, or do you
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Speaker 3: just spontaneously do you just want to come come up
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Speaker 3: with something right on the spot.
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Speaker 4: I just come up with something right on the spot.
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Speaker 4: So if I'm thinking of an emotion in my head,
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Speaker 4: that's what I would do in the audition.
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Speaker 3: Oh so you know that that's actually pretty cool. I know,
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Speaker 3: it's interesting to hear that, because you know, I sometimes
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Speaker 3: hear actors they have they think about all this stuff
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Speaker 3: so much, and then they sort of overthink this, if
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, and then they get into
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Speaker 3: the audition and they're and they're nervous and they you
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Speaker 3: know what I mean. So it's always good, you know,
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Speaker 3: being able to come off the cuff like that. It's
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Speaker 3: just you know, it's a great skill to have. Yes,
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Speaker 3: So you know, thank you, Oh my, my, my pleasure, Shay. So,
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Speaker 3: when when you're going on lots of these auditions and
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Speaker 3: stuff like that, do you do you ever get nervous
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Speaker 3: at all? Shay? Because honestly, been talking to you, I
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Speaker 3: don't think you do. But I'm just gonna ask anyway.
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Speaker 4: I don't because I know if I mess up, I
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Speaker 4: can always go back line and it's not the end
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Speaker 4: of the world if I mess up or anything. It's
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Speaker 4: just I won't book that. And if I mess up,
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Speaker 4: that's okay. There's always another audition that I can do.
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Speaker 4: And yeah, so I never ever get nervous.
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Speaker 3: So so, Sha, you you study with some some of
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Speaker 3: UH acting coaches out in LA and you know, what
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Speaker 3: were some of the things that you've worked on with them, Like,
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Speaker 3: what were some of the things that that really you know,
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Speaker 3: when you're going through all these you know, different you know,
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Speaker 3: UH sort of courses or workshops or classes, you know,
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Speaker 3: what are some of the things that stand out that
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Speaker 3: you've taken away that you've really added to your acting career.
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Speaker 4: Getting emotional is something that I'm really good at. So
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Speaker 4: crying on set and really getting into that emotional state
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Speaker 4: is what I'm pretty good at it. And that's what
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Speaker 4: my coaches helped me with.
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Speaker 3: So and honestly, it's good, you know, having these coaches
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Speaker 3: in your life. You know, you see the importance of
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Speaker 3: having the people who've actually done it and coming out
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Speaker 3: and and and sort of you know, guiding you through this.
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Speaker 3: So so Shay, as you started to get these commercials
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Speaker 3: and and and different parts, were you ever when when
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Speaker 3: you got on set, were you maybe even the first time,
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Speaker 3: were you ever just a little bit nervous or maybe
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Speaker 3: just even a little bit taken aback by just maybe
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Speaker 3: the scale of some of these productions.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, just seeing all those big cameras. I was nervous
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Speaker 4: for the first ever time I did book a commercial.
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Speaker 4: Just seeing all the people around and seeing all the
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Speaker 4: big lights and the cameras and the whole set was
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Speaker 4: very nerve wracking for me because you know, with my
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Speaker 4: first ever time being things.
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Speaker 3: So on your IMDb, you know, one of the first
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Speaker 3: things that you have is flow in Evelyn, which is
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Speaker 3: a web series, So you know, just just doing a
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Speaker 3: web series like that. You know, what were some of
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Speaker 3: the memories that you took away, you know, being that
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Speaker 3: I guess it was your first web series at the time.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I really, it's just meeting new friends and doing
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Speaker 4: what you love is just taken away by the memories
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Speaker 4: because it's amazing to meet new friends, to being on
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Speaker 4: set with everyone, and it's awesome.
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Speaker 3: So when you're on set, Shade, do you I mean,
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Speaker 3: because I don't know if there maybe is a lot
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Speaker 3: of other you know, people like, you know, kids your age,
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Speaker 3: so maybe there's just a lot of different maybe adults
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Speaker 3: or something like that. So when you're on set and
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Speaker 3: I'm asking this question because of a lot of you know,
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Speaker 3: maybe parents who want to get their kids into acting,
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Speaker 3: or maybe even you know, kids your age. We're going
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Speaker 3: to listen to this episode. You know, what is it
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Speaker 3: like on set? You know, maybe if if there isn't
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Speaker 3: someone your age on set with you.
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Speaker 4: Well, do you just kind of act like the other
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Speaker 4: person is a kid? It's not that big of a deal.
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Speaker 4: Even though you have a set teacher there and she
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Speaker 4: is kind of like the kid to you. She prays
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Speaker 4: games with you, she teaches you school. So our set
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Speaker 4: teacher is kind of like a kid to us. But
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Speaker 4: all of the other actors, you just kind of roll
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Speaker 4: with it and you don't really get phased by it
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Speaker 4: because you know, it may not be a kid, but
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Speaker 4: it's still a teenager growing up, and you still talk
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Speaker 4: to them and act with them, so you still have
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Speaker 4: to get in the character with them.
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Speaker 3: That is an excellent answer, by the way. Shit, I
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Speaker 3: never thought of it like that. Yeah, Soga. As we
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Speaker 3: as we go along with your with your acting career,
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Speaker 3: you know, you said you spent more you were going
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Speaker 3: back and forth between Iowa and La. You know, was
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Speaker 3: there ever a point where you started to maybe even
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Speaker 3: say to yourself, like, Wow, all I'm doing is you know,
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Speaker 3: I'm spending so much time in La. Because you You've
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Speaker 3: had a lot of roles over the past couple of years.
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Speaker 3: So was there ever a time where you're like, you know,
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Speaker 3: maybe you know saying, wow, I'm spending so much time
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Speaker 3: out here in La. It's like time just flying by.
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Speaker 4: Yes, uh huh. My past like two years have flown
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Speaker 4: by so fast because I've been filming and it's just
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Speaker 4: so amazing that time can't fly that fast and you're
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Speaker 4: having fun.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's good. You're having fun. You know that
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Speaker 3: that that's that's one of the things, right, you know,
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Speaker 3: filmmaking and acting and doing all this wonderful cratized stuff.
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Speaker 3: It's supposed to be fun at the end of the day.
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Speaker 4: It is, and you have to think of it at
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Speaker 4: as it as not just being on set. It's having
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Speaker 4: fun and not just being on set. You weren't just filming.
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Speaker 4: You're having fun.
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Speaker 3: So when you finally got the audition for The Hatred,
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Speaker 3: I mean, and again, I want to talk about the
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Speaker 3: movie The hate obviously because we're you know this whole.
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Speaker 3: This movie's coming out September the twelfth. Yeah, And and
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Speaker 3: I don't know, by the way, shape Before I ask
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Speaker 3: you this question, I want to ask you another question.
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Speaker 3: Do you know that the trailer is over like twelve
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Speaker 3: million views or something like something ridiculous?
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Speaker 4: It's like awesome, It's like gone viral. It's so cool.
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Speaker 4: At sixteen million.
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Speaker 3: Views, it's unbelievable. I and uh, I mean because you're
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Speaker 3: in the trailer front and center, and I was like,
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Speaker 3: I was showing people the trailer and I'm like, my gosh,
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Speaker 3: these guys have got you know, fifteen million views already.
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Speaker 4: I know, it's so awesome.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's unbelievable. And I'm so so happy for
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Speaker 3: you guys, and I'm so happy for everyone in production.
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Speaker 3: And I wanted to ask about, you know, The Hatred,
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Speaker 3: and so when you're auditioning for something like that, it's
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Speaker 3: it's a it's obviously a horror movie. Was there ever
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Speaker 3: any maybe you know, maybe you had second thoughts or
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Speaker 3: anything about auditioning because in mean, it's it is a
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Speaker 3: horror movie, and maybe it would just be you know,
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Speaker 3: a little uh, I mean, I don't, I don't. It's
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Speaker 3: a little bit different. Then maybe then you're doing commercials
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Speaker 3: and web series, So did you just want to try
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Speaker 3: something different or were you were you just basically thinking
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Speaker 3: to yourself, maybe I should just go for this because
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Speaker 3: it's different. And it's what I'm trying to say.
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Speaker 4: I was just thinking, I need to go for this one.
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Speaker 4: I know it's going to be a good one and
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Speaker 4: I know that this will be the big so I
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Speaker 4: need this lead role.
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Speaker 3: So when you had the audition for The Hatred, you know, again,
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Speaker 3: you know, as you just you just told me you
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Speaker 3: come up with things on the spot. But what was
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Speaker 3: your audition, like, uh, you know, for The Hatred and
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Speaker 3: in front of the casting director and in front of Mike.
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Speaker 4: Oh. Well, first I read the script and I was like, wow,
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Speaker 4: this is your peak. Awesome. I need to book this,
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Speaker 4: which is awesome. I'm the lead role. So I went
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Speaker 4: in and I met Michael and I was like, whoa there, Roger.
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Speaker 4: He is so nice. He's like the nicest person in
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Speaker 4: the world. Then I did it and then he's like, hey,
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Speaker 4: we could go out to lunch. He was so fun.
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Speaker 4: He's such a nice guy, and I loved it. It
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Speaker 4: was a great audition.
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Speaker 3: And I'm glad you had to blast Becau again. Mike
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Speaker 3: is a really really cool guy, a really cool guy
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Speaker 3: to meet because he and I met. Oh cool, you
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Speaker 3: met Malick too, That's awesome.
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Speaker 4: I did so.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm actually gonna have Mike has already been
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Speaker 3: on the show before, and I'm gonna have Malik on
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Speaker 3: soon enough. I'm interviewing pretty much everybody from The Hatred,
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Speaker 3: So if you name somebody, yeah, So I'm gonna put
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Speaker 3: this all together, Uh in separate interview. You're gonna love it.
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Speaker 3: When it's done, it's gonna be this really really cool
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Speaker 3: insight into a into a movie about from beginning to end.
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Speaker 3: So I wanted to ask, too, Chey, how did you
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Speaker 3: hear about the audition for The Hatred?
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Speaker 4: Well, my mom called me and said, hey, Shay, you
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Speaker 4: have an audition for a horror film. And this is
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Speaker 4: when I was with my baby, said her out the
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Speaker 4: time because my mom was working, and she goes, Shay,
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Speaker 4: you have a audition for a hurl film. And I'm like,
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Speaker 4: I've never been on a horror film before, and it
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Speaker 4: was my first ever feature film, so I was really excited.
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Speaker 4: I went into the audition very happy and energetic, and
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Speaker 4: then I got into that character and then I heard
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Speaker 4: I got a call back. I was like, oh my gosh,
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Speaker 4: maybe this is my big film. And then I got
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Speaker 4: pinned for it, which means it's between me and probably
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Speaker 4: two or three other girls. And then they called me
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Speaker 4: and they said you booked it, and me and my
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Speaker 4: mom were like, yay say, and we were just so excited.
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Speaker 3: So I mean, and you obviously you know you got
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Speaker 3: the part, and you know you're front and center in
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Speaker 3: the trailer. So I wanted to ask you when you're
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Speaker 3: actually on set the first day and you're filming and again,
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Speaker 3: this is a horror movie, and this is a really
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Speaker 3: really interesting, really cool horror movie. You know, was there
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Speaker 3: ever a time where you were on set and you
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Speaker 3: were like, wow, this is this is getting like, you know,
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Speaker 3: pretty intense.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, when we were filming that scene where I was
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Speaker 4: on top of the bed and yet you looked under
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Speaker 4: there and it was stormy outside, and then you look
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Speaker 4: up and there's the monster. I was actually kind of
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Speaker 4: scared of that, because it's like that first, it's gonna
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Speaker 4: get me. But beside that, I was not scared because
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Speaker 4: you're friends with the people who were on set. You're
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Speaker 4: friends with this scary monster. They're talking about their kids.
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Speaker 4: You know, they're just a normal person, and yet they
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Speaker 4: are very creepy, don't know.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well it is good that they did talk to
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Speaker 3: you too, and uh, you know, they got to know
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Speaker 3: you so but but yeah, I mean because I saw
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Speaker 3: that and that that was that was the part of
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Speaker 3: the trailer that I see a lot of people talking
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Speaker 3: about too. Was was that one that that scene where
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Speaker 3: you know, they show you on top of the bed
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Speaker 3: and then you're the the the pas and they look
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Speaker 3: under the bed and then there's you, and you say, well,
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Speaker 3: that's not me, and they and they look up and
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Speaker 3: and the other of you on top of the bed
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Speaker 3: is now a monster. Yeah, I mean that is I've
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Speaker 3: noticed that too. With the number of some of the
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Speaker 3: comments are like, oh my gosh, you know, look at that.
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Speaker 3: That's so cool. And so with you being you know,
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Speaker 3: front and center in the trailer, have you been getting
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Speaker 3: noticed because I mean we just mentioned the trailer going
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Speaker 3: viral like fifteen million views, So are people noticing you now, Shane? Like,
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Speaker 3: are you walking down the street and people were like, hey,
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Speaker 3: isn't that that little girl from the from the Hatred?
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Speaker 4: They don't really say anything. They just kind of look
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Speaker 4: at me like like stunt, and I'm like hi, and yeah,
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Speaker 4: people have been noticing me a lot more.
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Speaker 3: It's one of those things they probably know where you're from,
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Speaker 3: Like is that that girl from the Hatred? I think
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Speaker 3: it's that girl turns into a monster. Yeah. So, so, Shane,
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Speaker 3: when you were filming The Hatred, I want to ask you,
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Speaker 3: know what, what were one of your favorite moments from
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Speaker 3: from filming The Hatred? Hmmm?
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Speaker 4: Filming it? Well, I like the bed scene where I'm
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Speaker 4: on top of the bed and then or the hide
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Speaker 4: and seek scene where the monsters like behind me yet
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Speaker 4: I don't know it, and then I turn around and
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Speaker 4: then I kind of see her with my fat eye.
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Speaker 4: But that was pretty cool.
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Speaker 3: So so have you gotten a chance yet, Shaye? Have
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Speaker 3: have you seen a final cut of the film yet?
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Speaker 4: I have at the premie yere and hmmm, this movie
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Speaker 4: is very scary. I was like closing my eye halfway
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Speaker 4: through the film, yet I was in it, so yeah,
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Speaker 4: it was very scary.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you took the words right out of my mouth.
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Speaker 3: That's exactly what I was going to say. I was like,
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Speaker 3: you're you're in the film, and uh, and you're you're
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Speaker 3: you're feeling the same as the audience, which is so key.
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Speaker 3: You know, You're you're feeling that experience that the audience
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Speaker 3: is going to feel and you know it. Uh, you know. So,
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Speaker 3: you know, I wanted to ask Tooche as we talk
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Speaker 3: about the Hatred, you know, what are some of the
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Speaker 3: things that you hope people take away from it, whether
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Speaker 3: in terms of, you know, something that you've done in there,
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Speaker 3: like you're acting, or maybe even something with the movie.
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Speaker 3: Is there anything that you hope that audiences walk away
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Speaker 3: from the film with yes.
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Speaker 4: I hope they walk away with the doggy door scene
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Speaker 4: where I scream no. And I feel like that was
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Speaker 4: a really hearsh part of the movie because you know,
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Speaker 4: I'm my best friend, not my best friend, but no,
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Speaker 4: she's becoming my best friend, my babysitter. The person who's
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Speaker 4: taking care of me now is getting drug away by
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Speaker 4: the scary person and which is like horrifying because you
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Speaker 4: know that she probably isn't gonna make it out alive.
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Speaker 4: Luckily she did, but I scream no, and that is
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Speaker 4: a really emotional part of the movie. So I hope
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Speaker 4: they take that away with them.
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Speaker 3: So so she and that's gonna be awesome. I can't
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Speaker 3: wait to actually check out this movie. By the way, be.
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Speaker 3: And I wanted to, you know, also ask as a
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Speaker 3: follow up to that. You know, we've talked a lot
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Speaker 3: about you know you acting and moving from Iowa to La.
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Speaker 3: So I wanted to ask two che is, what advice
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Speaker 3: would you have for for you know, maybe a child
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Speaker 3: actor or maybe your age or maybe even a little older.
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Speaker 3: What would you ask I'm sorry. What would you tell
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Speaker 3: them if they were to ask you, you know, do
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Speaker 3: you have any advice for child actors that just want
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Speaker 3: to want to get started?
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Speaker 4: I would say, be yourself. Don't go into the audition
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Speaker 4: being someone else that you aren't. Be yourself, be your
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Speaker 4: fun self, don't be someone else. Just be yourself.
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Speaker 3: And you know that that is awesome advice, Shay. And
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Speaker 3: like you said before, how you were, you know, just
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Speaker 3: just come in the audition and and you know you
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Speaker 3: can do it right then and there. And it's true though,
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Speaker 3: you have to have that good personality. You have to
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Speaker 3: you know, have the ability to do the character. And
21:03
Speaker 3: like like you said too, sche you had a good
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Speaker 3: piece of advice. You know, there's always another audition, right
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Speaker 3: and if you do if you do happen to mess up,
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Speaker 3: there's always another audition, right.
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Speaker 4: Yes, there's always another audition out there for you. It's
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Speaker 4: not the end of the world. If you mess up
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Speaker 4: on one line, you just start back at the beginning
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Speaker 4: of the line and just go on with it and
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Speaker 4: add like he never messed up. And if you do
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Speaker 4: mess up, there's always another audition.
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Speaker 3: So associate when when the when the hatred comes out
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Speaker 3: on September the twelfth. You know, how are you going
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Speaker 3: to celebrate? Are you going to watch the movie on
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Speaker 3: Blu Ray? Are you gonna call your friends over and
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Speaker 3: have and watch it with you or something like that.
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Speaker 4: We're probably gonna have a little viewing party.
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Speaker 3: That's that's awesome. I'm probably gonna have viewing party two
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Speaker 3: at my house. I'm in here. I'm here in Philadelphia,
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Speaker 3: by the way, so I'm prob. Yeah. So Philadelphia, it's uh,
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Speaker 3: it's a I mean, do you have a perception of Philadelphia, Shay? Okay,
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Speaker 3: so uh, because sometimes I sometimes people find out from
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Speaker 3: Philly and they started asking me questions like did you
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Speaker 3: guys really do this or that? You know, Uh, it's
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Speaker 3: just you know the city, you know how sports teams are,
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Speaker 3: and you know all that all that stuff. But but
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Speaker 3: just to get back to acting, I just want to
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Speaker 3: ask Jay, you know, in closing, is there anything that
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Speaker 3: we didn't get to discuss, or anything that you wanted
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Speaker 3: to discuss, or even just to say, just to sort
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Speaker 3: of put a period at the end this whole conversation.
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Speaker 4: No, not much, not anything cool.
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Speaker 3: You know, Shay, It's been an absolute pleasure talking with you,
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Speaker 3: and I just want to ask. I have one final question,
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Speaker 3: and that is where can people find you out on
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Speaker 3: social media at.
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Speaker 4: Jay Small like s H A E. S M O
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Speaker 4: L I k on Musically and Instagram, and I will.
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Speaker 3: Link to all of that. Everyone in the show notes
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Speaker 3: at Dave Polis dot com. Twitter, It's at Dave Underscore
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Speaker 3: Bullis Shay. I want to say thank you so much.
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Speaker 4: You you, thank you for having me.
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Speaker 3: Oh my my pleasure, Shay. You know, I am just
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Speaker 3: just you know you. You're such a great interview. By
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Speaker 3: the way, I just want to mention.
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Speaker 4: That, thank you my pleasure so much, Oh.
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Speaker 3: My pleasure, Shay. Have a great night. And again, I'm
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Speaker 3: gonna be talking to you soon because you're gonna see
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Speaker 3: me tagging your your social media all over the place
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Speaker 3: on so so so so I'm when I'm promoting the
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Speaker 3: hatred and stuff like this. So so we'll be talking
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Speaker 3: again on social media.
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Speaker 4: All right, be perfect, Thank you much for having me,
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Speaker 4: and have a great day.
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Shay. You do the same.
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Speaker 4: Bye.
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