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The Week That Was - 30th September 2022 · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: Oh well, before we get to the most listened to
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  Speaker 1: our territory radio, we have got a giant barrel moundy
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  Speaker 1: outside the studio right now because the million dollar.
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  Speaker 2: Fish is launching.
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  Speaker 1: Well today, I will introduce everybody in the studio. Joe Hersey,
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  Speaker 1: the Member for Catherine on her first ever week. That
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  Speaker 1: was good morning to you, Joe.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning Katie, and good morning listeners. Yes, happy to
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  Speaker 3: be here, Good to have you here.
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  Speaker 2: And we're welcoming back nine News. Darwin's Kathleen Gazol good morning,
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  Speaker 2: welcome back.
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  Speaker 1: And then we've got Keesi at Purich, the Member for Goider,
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  Speaker 1: Good morning to you.
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  Speaker 4: Morning everyone, morning bush people.
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  Speaker 1: And then we've also got Lauren Moss, good morning to you,
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  Speaker 1: the Minister for various different things.
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  Speaker 2: Great to have you in the studio and chocolate no
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  Speaker 2: key did break.
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  Speaker 4: Very good children.
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  Speaker 1: We've got a giant Barrelmundy outside because the launch of
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  Speaker 1: the million dollar Fish.
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  Speaker 2: Oh there they are, does the barrel mondy speak?
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  Speaker 1: Oh good, a million dollar fish. We will make sure
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  Speaker 1: we boast a video again of the million dollar fish. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think we've just we've caught her. Basically, she's outside
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  Speaker 1: that a million dollar fish.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, so fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: It is such a fantastic initiative, of course, the million
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  Speaker 1: dollar fish, and let's hope that it goes off this year.
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  Speaker 5: I think there's nine chances to win the million obviously
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  Speaker 5: only one person gets it fish with the tag from
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  Speaker 5: each of the seasons they're now active.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and it would be absolutely glorious for tourism if
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  Speaker 1: it did go off, I think, because it just opens
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  Speaker 1: us up to a whole other area of tourism that
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  Speaker 1: fishing and adventure, which is wonderful.
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  Speaker 4: But while we do the tag from previous year's.
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  Speaker 6: Count only the million dollar one.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and I am going to be interviewing corn from
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  Speaker 1: nty Major Events after ten o'clock this morning, so I
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  Speaker 1: can get all that detail anyway. But we were very
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  Speaker 1: excited to see the giant million dollar.
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  Speaker 2: Fish coming to the studio.
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  Speaker 3: Does a million dollars to the I don't know next
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  Speaker 3: weekend in a competition.
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  Speaker 6: That way.
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  Speaker 4: I know they've been in the Roper in the Daily
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  Speaker 4: and probably the Vickers. Well, I reckon.
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  Speaker 7: One thing I know is that I have absolutely no chance,
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  Speaker 7: in no way.
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  Speaker 1: And let's let's continue on that path of tourism. But
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  Speaker 1: unfortunately on a onto an area that isn't such a
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  Speaker 1: good thing, and that is indeed the fact that Tourism
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  Speaker 1: Central Australia moved emotion urging the Northern Territory Government to
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  Speaker 1: take immediate action to enforce law and order in Alice Springs,
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  Speaker 1: saying that crime is reaching crisis levels. Now it follows
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  Speaker 1: a shocking incident which saw a visitor browsing the local
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  Speaker 1: information center allegedly hit with a coward's.
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  Speaker 2: Punched by an offender.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I do want to play for you a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of audeo from Daniel Rochford, the CEO of Tourism
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  Speaker 1: top End, a little bit earlier in the week.
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  Speaker 2: If you missed it, take a listen.
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  Speaker 8: My members last week moved motion basic describing what we're
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  Speaker 8: living with here in Alice Springs is at crisis levels
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  Speaker 8: and certainly we're needing urgent support from the Northern Territory
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  Speaker 8: Government to put additional resources to this because at this
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  Speaker 8: very moment, in our opinion, the Northern Territory Government does
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  Speaker 8: not have control of the streets of Alice Springs. They
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  Speaker 8: may be the government, but they do not have control
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  Speaker 8: of our streets.
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  Speaker 1: Daniel, it is a massive call for a Tourism Body
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  Speaker 1: to come out to put your necks out, move this
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  Speaker 1: motion to say that the Northern Territory Government do not
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  Speaker 1: have control of crime in Alice Springs.
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  Speaker 2: Why have you gone down this path?
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  Speaker 8: Well, not only are we seeing the statistics all trending
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  Speaker 8: upwards significantly, but we are seeing it, we're living it,
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  Speaker 8: and we're feeling it. I think I nearly speak for
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  Speaker 8: every member of this community that says we go to
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  Speaker 8: bed at night fearing for have safety and there are
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  Speaker 8: a lawlessness occurring day in day out.
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  Speaker 1: So that was Daniel Rochford on the show earlier in
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  Speaker 1: the week and I've got to tell you, as I
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  Speaker 1: said throughout that interview, it is a massive call for
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  Speaker 1: a tourism body, the very body that is tasked with
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  Speaker 1: promoting the Northern Territory, to come out and say that
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  Speaker 1: they do not feel the Northern Territory Government have got
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  Speaker 1: control of this issue. Now, let's not beat around the bush.
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  Speaker 1: This isn't something that's as a result of one incident.
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  Speaker 1: This is something that has obviously happened as a result
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  Speaker 1: of escalating and long term issues with crime. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: I can recall many parliamentary settings that I've listened to
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  Speaker 1: where we've had a situation where government ministers have stood
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  Speaker 1: up and said you're talking the territory down when this
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  Speaker 1: issue is raised.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, enough is enough.
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  Speaker 1: I think that there obviously needs to be very immediate action.
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  Speaker 1: I know that Tourism Central Australia caught up with the
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  Speaker 1: Minister for Police as I understand it, yesterday with Kate Wooden,
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  Speaker 1: and also we spoke to the Minister for Tourism the
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  Speaker 1: day prior, and my understanding is that they have realistically
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  Speaker 1: asked for.
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  Speaker 2: There to be action within the week.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to be speaking to Daniel Rochford after ten
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  Speaker 1: o'clock this morning. But Kathleen, this is something that you
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  Speaker 1: were following throughout the week.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I mean it's an incredible statement coming from the peak
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  Speaker 5: body in Central Australia whose sole focus is to encourage
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  Speaker 5: people to come to the Red Center. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 5: people who are going to be going on holidays google
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  Speaker 5: Al Springs and they're going to see Daniel Rochford saying this,
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  Speaker 5: which is completely detrimental to him and his members. But
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  Speaker 5: it clearly shows that they've reached breaking point. It's not
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  Speaker 5: just obviously that asault in the Information Center, which in
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  Speaker 5: broad daylight two o'clock in the afternoon is completely unacceptable.
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  Speaker 5: But the information center itself has also been the target
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  Speaker 5: of constant break ins and smash windows that we see
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  Speaker 5: across the town on a daily basis.
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  Speaker 6: And I mean, you and I have.
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  Speaker 5: Been speaking about crime for so yes, Katie, like, I
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  Speaker 5: don't even know how we can find a new and
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  Speaker 5: different angle every single time that we speak about it.
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  Speaker 6: But I mean, you'd speak to Kate.
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  Speaker 5: Warden and yeah, she goes through all the things that
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  Speaker 5: they're doing in Alice Springs and it does seem like
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  Speaker 5: there are some slightly different things that they're doing, but
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  Speaker 5: for people in the town.
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  Speaker 6: It is all just too little, too late. I mean, well,
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  Speaker 6: when you've.
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  Speaker 1: Got people saying that they don't feel safe when they
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  Speaker 1: go to bed at night.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly, it's worse than the crisis point. It's broken. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: there's a Facebook side Action Alice or Action two thousand,
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  Speaker 4: Alice Action for Alice. Now, some of the stuff that
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  Speaker 4: gets put on there is horrendous. I'm not to remember
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  Speaker 4: breaking enter some of the twenty million smashed windows. It's
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  Speaker 4: the violence and the social people on the streets at night.
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  Speaker 5: And Dann says he has worse stuff that he doesn't
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  Speaker 5: that he doesn't put all.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's just I mean, I watched one and
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  Speaker 4: it was just horrendous. You know. There was like, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know, a good fifty one hundred young people, like
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  Speaker 4: under high teenagers, young teenagers, even young as ten or whatever,
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  Speaker 4: just randomly, recklessly roaming the streets looking for trouble, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And I think when you talk about drastic action, one
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  Speaker 4: is you've got to get those people off the streets
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  Speaker 4: and back into their home somehow or back in somewhere
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  Speaker 4: where they can't cause any harm to themselves or others.
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  Speaker 4: And the only way I can see that happening is
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  Speaker 4: you've got to have a curfew. You've got to get
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  Speaker 4: them off the streets. Now. I know curfew has been
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  Speaker 4: taught before, and people say it doesn't work. Well, I
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  Speaker 4: tell you what, curfew's working a lot of bloody countries
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  Speaker 4: around the world.
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  Speaker 6: So other things that are happening don't see to do
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  Speaker 6: working now.
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  Speaker 4: The things aren't happening. And I think also part of
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  Speaker 4: the issue is that in decades gone by, there wasn't
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  Speaker 4: probably as many Aboriginal people from communities living in Alice Springs.
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  Speaker 4: Like when I lived in Allie in the eighties, there
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  Speaker 4: was you know, normal people, normal town, whatever, bit of
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  Speaker 4: up people like any old town. But in the last
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  Speaker 4: short twenty years, I reckon fifteen twenty years, we've seen
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  Speaker 4: a greater migration of people from remote communities, perhaps the
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  Speaker 4: mischief makers coming and living in Alice Springs and building
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  Speaker 4: up the population of people who are just not fitting in.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's part of the issue. But the fact
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  Speaker 4: that a lot of people come to a big city
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  Speaker 4: and don't cause any trouble, but a lot of these
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  Speaker 4: people are just causing trouble and it's just gratuitous violence,
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  Speaker 4: and it's got to stop. And the only way I
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  Speaker 4: can see it stopping is to try and do something,
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  Speaker 4: some kind of law, some coin rules to get them
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  Speaker 4: off the street.
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  Speaker 1: In Western Australia, this week in Western Australia, the Labor
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  Speaker 1: government there and Mark McGowan, has announced some pretty unprecedented moves.
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  Speaker 1: So basically, people convicted of violent offenses in the Perth
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  Speaker 1: Entertainment precincts face being banned from entering those areas for
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  Speaker 1: up to five years under.
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  Speaker 2: This new legislation to be introduced next month.
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  Speaker 1: So the state government there is saying that basically in
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  Speaker 1: north Bridge, Freemantle, various other areas. They have now got
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  Speaker 1: a situation where there is advice from the WA Police
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  Speaker 1: where these exclusion areas are going to be labeled protected
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  Speaker 1: in entertainment precincts and essentially if you're banned from.
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  Speaker 2: Those areas, you're not allowed in.
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  Speaker 1: It's linked to your licenses, so that if you try
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  Speaker 1: to get into a nightclub, for example.
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  Speaker 2: You're not going to be able to look.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know whether something like that is worth looking
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  Speaker 1: at in the Northern Territory in different places, but if
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  Speaker 1: you've got people going into different areas breaking the law,
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  Speaker 1: engaging in violent behavior, you know, we've got to we've
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  Speaker 1: got to start thinking.
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  Speaker 2: Outside of the box.
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  Speaker 1: But there also does need to be and something that
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  Speaker 1: Daniel Rochford had said throughout the week, and this is
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  Speaker 1: just for Alice Springs, there does need to be by
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  Speaker 1: the look of things, if it's not greater, if it's
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  Speaker 1: not more police patrols on the ground, then you know,
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  Speaker 1: are we going to see something like the security that
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  Speaker 1: we have up here in the top end with the
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  Speaker 1: with the dogs and that kind of stuff. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but have we seriously reached that level in the Northern
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  Speaker 1: Territory where we've got to have private security patrolling all
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  Speaker 1: of our different public spaces.
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  Speaker 7: So, Katie, when I was there last week, and I
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  Speaker 7: know we talked about my visit down there. I was
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  Speaker 7: down there for some youth events and a youth summit
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  Speaker 7: where community safety was also talked about. But I was
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  Speaker 7: coming out of a barbecue with some of those young
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  Speaker 7: leaders and kind of walked straight into the huddle of police,
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  Speaker 7: the Youth Outreach team who are also government with the
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  Speaker 7: council patrollers and a range of others, and they are
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  Speaker 7: coming together. They kind of come together there on the
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  Speaker 7: council lawns pretty much every night at the moment to
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  Speaker 7: have a look at where they need to be sending
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  Speaker 7: their resources, how they're working together. I had a really
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  Speaker 7: great briefing with Jeanette Kerr, who's of course the Deputy
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  Speaker 7: Chief Executive for Territory Families and that plan that she's
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  Speaker 7: working on around public order in Alice Springs. But that's
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  Speaker 7: not something that you know, everybody's sort of waiting for
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  Speaker 7: the plan to come together. She's been putting those actions
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  Speaker 7: in place, so things like that huddle and how we
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  Speaker 7: can coordinate patrols better. And all of those sorts of
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  Speaker 7: things are already happening on the ground, and I think
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  Speaker 7: are visible so.
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  Speaker 1: That locals will be If all those things are already happening,
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  Speaker 1: why is the crime still happening.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I think there's a range of other things that
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  Speaker 7: need to come together. But I guess what I'm saying is,
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  Speaker 7: as that plan's coming together and people are identifying the things,
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  Speaker 7: well one, the things that should already be happening that
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  Speaker 7: maybe aren't happening, and how we can build the accountability
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  Speaker 7: back into that. There's no point waiting for the plan
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  Speaker 7: to be finalized to get those things happening. So I
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  Speaker 7: understand that the plan itself was meant to be going
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  Speaker 7: to counsel this week. I'm not sure of the outcome
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  Speaker 7: of that. I'd have to chase it up, but you
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  Speaker 7: know it's going to take everyone. Really, there are already patrols,
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  Speaker 7: there's already security, there's already police, there's the yorits. It's
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  Speaker 7: about how they're all working together and making sure that
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  Speaker 7: those patrols are happening in a really coordinated way.
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  Speaker 10: That's interesting, Katie, that you brought up the security up here.
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  Speaker 10: I was talking to the Member for Braitling, Josh burgo
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  Speaker 10: In last yesterday and he the Minister for Police is
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  Speaker 10: down in or has been in Alice Springs this week
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  Speaker 10: and she said to him, well, she's been in Alice
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  Speaker 10: thirty six days. Well, my comment to that would be,
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  Speaker 10: she's the minister for the territory. You need to spend
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  Speaker 10: you know, potentially a third of your time down there
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  Speaker 10: in Alice.
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  Speaker 3: There is a crime crisis.
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  Speaker 10: They've been calling for help for a very long time,
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  Speaker 10: and a couple of days ago we had Minister our
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  Speaker 10: Kit talking about the Neptune security and.
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  Speaker 3: The guard dog that they have in Malac.
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  Speaker 10: They've been asking and putting a proposal to government for
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  Speaker 10: something like that down in Alice Springs and they've heard crickets.
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  Speaker 10: Yet it's a million dollars extra. I think it was
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  Speaker 10: for Malac. Interestingly in the minister's electorate. I just think
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  Speaker 10: there needs to there does need to be more solutions
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  Speaker 10: for Alice Springs and maybe all these people. If I
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  Speaker 10: liken it to Catherine, you know, potentially some of these
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  Speaker 10: these NGOs that are out there, they work in silos,
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  Speaker 10: they don't generally work together, so that is part of
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  Speaker 10: the solution moving forward. These people need to work together.
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  Speaker 10: I know the police in Catherine Say Territory families don't work.
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  Speaker 3: With them through the night. Maybe they need to change
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  Speaker 3: their modeling.
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  Speaker 1: There is no doubt I think that some of that
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  Speaker 1: work needs to happen. But in the short term there
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  Speaker 1: needs to be something really immediate.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's d is calling for supportive of what the
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  Speaker 5: government's doing, that kind of thing, that visible surgeon to
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  Speaker 5: get things under control. That then allows all those other
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  Speaker 5: services to come in and have an impact.
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  Speaker 4: Katie, as I said before, it's gone, it's gone past
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  Speaker 4: the crisis, it's gone cious and it's almost you start
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  Speaker 4: to think of things that are a little bit radical,
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  Speaker 4: which will clearly not please everyone you know who thinks
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  Speaker 4: you know, you know put regardling should after or whatever.
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  Speaker 4: But as I said, I talked about a curfew and
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  Speaker 4: I know a lot of people don't like that, but
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  Speaker 4: it might be starting time to think about whether there
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  Speaker 4: should be a state of emergency for that Central Astrology region.
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  Speaker 4: It has the powers to do that. Now I am
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  Speaker 4: not fully with exactly what it falls out from. You know,
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  Speaker 4: what does that mean when you have a state of emergency.
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  Speaker 2: We know what it means.
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  Speaker 4: We've had a natural disaster. We clearly know what that means.
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  Speaker 4: But it's gone part. It's gone past the crisis points
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  Speaker 4: and it's broken. That town is broken. I had one
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  Speaker 4: of my sisters go down there recently for some work
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  Speaker 4: and she said she went down the mall and there's
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  Speaker 4: pretty much nothing in that mall, no shops left, and
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  Speaker 4: it's just it's just that. She said that she worked
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  Speaker 4: in the town for a long time with py Women's Council,
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  Speaker 4: you know, a couple of decades now she said, the
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  Speaker 4: town is just trashed. It's absolutely trashed, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: she was quite sad about it. So it's gone past broken.
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  Speaker 4: It is completely shattered, and they need to do something
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  Speaker 4: fast and something emergency. Well, and whether the state of
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  Speaker 4: emergency is it, I don't know, but we need to
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  Speaker 4: look at something like that.
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  Speaker 1: We had just Enter Price on the show earlier in
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  Speaker 1: the week and she said, you know, Katie, do we
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  Speaker 1: need to look at bringing the army in here. And
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  Speaker 1: I know that people will think, oh goodness me, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you can't do that. You don't need to do that.
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  Speaker 1: And I understand that there would be that key to
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  Speaker 1: take some me.
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  Speaker 4: You just need direction from this government and using the
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  Speaker 4: resources we've got here in the tradery, which is police
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  Speaker 4: obviously and the police auxiliaries. Yeah, what do you call
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  Speaker 4: the Aboriginal police officers.
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  Speaker 5: There's the problem with doing that requires the government to
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  Speaker 5: admit that things are broken, which they're not going to do.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, correct, you know what ticks me off? And
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  Speaker 5: if I was a resident in Alice Springs, it would
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  Speaker 5: severely make me angry, is the comment of all things
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  Speaker 5: flare out time to time.
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  Speaker 6: I mean we've been talking about.
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  Speaker 5: You look at the ABS stats that have just come
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  Speaker 5: out of offenders per one hundred thousand people across the country,
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  Speaker 5: the average is fifteen hundred offenses preceded by.
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  Speaker 2: Police perl one hundred thousand.
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  Speaker 5: Correct, In the Northern Territory it's four thousand, three hundred
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  Speaker 5: and forty eight.
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  Speaker 2: So we're getting we are literally so.
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  Speaker 6: That that isn't just a flare that's over.
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  Speaker 5: That's over, and it's only victims of crime, So it's
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  Speaker 5: offenders proceeded against by police, So that's offenses preceded by police.
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  Speaker 5: Cops the age sex hundred exactly, and then Northern Territory
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  Speaker 5: is four thousand, three.
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  Speaker 2: Hundred, Like it is shocking.
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  Speaker 5: That's over the year, and it's just dropped by one
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  Speaker 5: hundred and ninety the previous year, so that's not just
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  Speaker 5: a time.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and look, we've got messages that are coming through
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: on the tech sign people saying Katie, it's starting to
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: sound like a broken record, you know, talking about Alice Springs,
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah, same thing you know all the time.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: But this is this is the whole point I think
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: that we're at. And I actually said this to the
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Chief Minister earlier in the week. You've got so many
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: wonderful people that live in the Northern Territory. Everybody wants
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: to see this place do really well. We all want
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: to see the Northern Territory succeed. But this issue of
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: crime is breaking us right now, and particularly for the
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: people of Alice Springs. You should not have to go
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: to bed at night wondering what's going to happen or
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: feeling scared. You know, in my opinion, like that actually
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: shows that the government is failing. You know, if we
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: can't make some space here and if people cannot actually
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: go to bed feeling safe at night, then we're we're
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: letting we're letting territorians down. How do you expect to
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: ever grow the population, How do you expect to you know,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: to ever be in a situation where we are the
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: mecca that we want to be if we can't sort
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: this issue out. And you know, there are people that
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: are coming forward with different solutions, and like I said before,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: I do think that there needs to be immediate action,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: but in the longer term as well. A really insightful
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: discussion I thought that we'd had throughout the week was
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: with the school principle of ye Barnia School Now he
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: joined us on the show. It's an Aboriginal controlled independent
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: school in Alice Springs. They're calling on the Federal Labor
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: government to honor the pre election commitment of the former
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Coalition government to invest eight point three million dollars to
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: build an accommodation facility for staff and students. Now, doctor
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Gavin Morris had said that the like he'd spoken through
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of different things, but he basically said, you
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: know that some of the children that were on the
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: street doing the wrong thing at night, students from school.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: You know, despite the fact that they're then out all night,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: they still come to school the next day. He firmly
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: believes that if there is a boarding facility there for
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: some of these kids, it will mean that they're off
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: the streets and that it will have an impact autive
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: impact on the community more broadly. You know, he spoke
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: about I believe it's Task Force Lera. I think it
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: is in Alla Springs. He spoke about the list of
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: kids that are on you know that list that they're
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: obviously keeping an eye on. He said, twenty two of
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: them are students at his school. You know, you've then
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: got like you've got a situation here, and I know
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: that this is something that's longer term, but if there
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: is the opportunity for there to be this boarding facility
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: for both children and also some of the teaching staff
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: to be able to be safe, if that is part
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: of the puzzle longer term to make sure that we
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: can have an impact here.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I think it's one measure.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: There certainly needs to be others, and there certainly needs
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: to be immediate things happening.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: But let's look at it.
• 18:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and look, I think Gavin's been really really good
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: for your Perina, and it's nice to go down and
• 18:52
  Speaker 7: actually hear people More broadly, talking about your Pernia school
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: pretty much every time I go down. We've funded their
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: night school program, which provides them with some funding to
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: run some engagement opportunities outside of school hours.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Thank you Keysier.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Outside of school hours.
• 19:11
  Speaker 7: You know, we're making sure that there is something for
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: young people to do in the evening hours, but also
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: something that connects them back into education and to school.
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: And you know, I think the work that he's doing
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: there has been really really successful.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: They've got more enrollments.
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: I think it's really important too, with what you're saying about,
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: you know, Gavin knows some of these young people. It's
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: really great to be able to identify people who have
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: relationships with some of these kids already, because I think
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: that's how we're going to be able to change things.
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: We need to know that they're linked in with school,
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: but also know that you can talk to the principal
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: or talk to someone who's got a relationship with them,
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: because quite often you don't have that. You've got kids
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: going out doing these horrendous things and it's very hard
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: to find people around them that can provid I had
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: that ongoing support and you know, and kind of guidance
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: to them as well. So I think he's doing fabulous
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: work and our wholeheartedly support well.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: And look, I think that you know, the reality here
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: is we've got to look for some different options, but
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: there needs to be some really immediate action taken. I
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: do just want to sort of stay on this theme,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: but on another issue that's unfolded overnight. Now we had
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: some transit officers assaulted, as I understand it, overnight, So
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I'll just have a bit of a listen to the
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: watch commander from overnight, take a listen.
• 20:31
  Speaker 9: At about seven thirty pm last night, Norman Charity Police
• 20:35
  Speaker 9: were called bus stop on alan Gowan Drive, Brinking for
• 20:39
  Speaker 9: reports of two public transit safety offices being assaulted on attendance.
• 20:44
  Speaker 9: Please observed in adult male in the transit officer's custody handcuffed.
• 20:50
  Speaker 9: The transit officers addive that had been called to the
• 20:52
  Speaker 9: location on information that a passenger had been assaulted by
• 20:56
  Speaker 9: another bus passenger. As they attempted to remove this from
• 21:00
  Speaker 9: the bus, he is spat in their face and chest.
• 21:03
  Speaker 9: The transit officers have placed the thirty one year old
• 21:06
  Speaker 9: mail under arrest, restrained and handcuffed him. The offender was
• 21:10
  Speaker 9: arrested by police and taken to the Palmerston Watchhouse. The
• 21:14
  Speaker 9: mayor will be charged with two counts of assaulted worker
• 21:17
  Speaker 9: and we'll face the Dalmacal Court at a later date.
• 21:21
  Speaker 9: The transit officers do particularly well in utilizing their newly
• 21:24
  Speaker 9: granted powers to bring an abrupt halt to the drunken
• 21:27
  Speaker 9: offender's conduct. Novin Terity Police would like to remind all
• 21:31
  Speaker 9: members of the public of their obligations to behave in
• 21:34
  Speaker 9: a servile manner whilst and joined the use of public facilities.
• 21:38
  Speaker 9: The abuse and assault of any person, inclusive of service
• 21:41
  Speaker 9: workers will not be tolerated. Spitting is a particularly revolting
• 21:45
  Speaker 9: act that can result in lengthy custodical sentences.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: That was the watch commander Mickfield's there speaking to said
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Higgins George in our newsroom overnight or early this morning.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Horrendous stuff, I mean spitting in the faces and the
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: chest then all those offices and look, it's unfortunately not
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: the only kind of issue that we've seen around those
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: public bus services and also at those interchanges, and you know,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: sadly another example of some really poor behavior.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: It is veriable behavior.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: Just looking on the positive side of it, in some ways,
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: having those transit offices. Having those powers certainly freeze up
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: the police to be able to be doing other things.
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: So that's fantastic that they are able to do that
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: and then the police were able to come and take
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: them away. So I mean, I think that's a tick
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: in that field of you know, doing something a bit
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: different and innovative to be able to give the cops
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: a bit more space to do other work.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh absolutely, I'll think if it's able to work,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: and if you're able to do some various different things,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: you know, that's where even like talking about those security
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: patrols and things like that, if they work and if
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: they're a deterrent, then they're well worth having a look at.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: We might take a bit of a break. You are
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: listening to Mix one O nine three sixty. It is
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: the week that was in the studio this morning. Of course,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: for the week that was, we have got the member
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: for Katherine Joe Hersey, We've got Kathleen Gazola, We've got
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Keesier Purick and Lauren Moss, and there has been so
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: much going on this week.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: But I do want to talk about the fact that
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: the fuel.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Excise has indeed ended and we are all keeping an
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: incredibly close eye on these petrol prices. Now, before we
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: get into any kind of discussion, I want to take
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: you through the terminal gate prices today because let's not
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: forget that the fuel excise goes on to the price
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: at the bowser, but at your terminal gate. So for
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: your unleded today, it's sitting at a dollar seventy two
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: point five. Now, to give you a bit of perspective,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: yesterday it was at a dollar sixty six point five.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: The day prior it was at a dollar fifty four
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: point four. So that's your terminal gate price has gone
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: up from a dollar fifty four to a dollar seventy
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: two in two days.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Then, Fear Diesel.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Today at the terminal gate, it's sitting at two dollars
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: four point six. The day prior it was at a
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: dollar ninety eight point nine, and the day before that
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: on Wednesday, it was at a dollar eighty six. So
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: it's gone up astronomically at your terminal gate. Now we're
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: not seeing that quite yet at the bowser, but it's
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: going to.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Be happening, there is no doubt about it.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: So at the bowser at the moment, those prices are
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: remaining fairly steady. But I think it's pretty safe to
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: say that you're not only going to see the price
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: rocket as a result of the excise, but also now
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: if those terminal gate prices going.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: Up, yeah, it's going to hurt. I mean we've got
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: a land cruise. My husband drives a land cruise that's
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: got two tanks in it and a boat. So we're
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: probably gonna have to go take out alone to how
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: to go fishing on occasion.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Now, well, this is the thing, it's here today, good one.
• 24:54
  Speaker 9: I like it.
• 24:56
  Speaker 11: Catie's for that's a long trip, good times at midnight.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Mustliest Legs doesn't understand.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Katie. This is I mean, it's one thing for us consumers.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: I mean you can't go fishing as much as you should.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: But the impact on business, it should never ever be underestimated.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: And I've told the story before of the man I
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: buy a big bound rail round bales of hay, which
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: about eighty bucks seventy five bucks depending on the type.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: He had to put another five dollars on it because
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: the cost of fuel went up. And he's just from
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: daily river coming in and around Darn on the top end.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: So when you look at the industries that are heavy reliant,
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: heavily reliant upon diesel. You know, basically all the fuel
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: that comes into from.
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: Most things that the fuel that gets.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: Moved around, all the transport with the freight and everything
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: like that, and just people who go out bush and
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: do all that work which is usually full drives, which
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: is usually diesel. All those contractors and workers are going
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: to start to put the price back on the product.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: So it's going to push up the cost of living.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: Yet again, they can't that cost no, and I mean
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: the bulk of our businesses up here, as we know,
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: a small to medium and they definitely can't absorb the
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: high energy costs on the high field cost. So it's
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: going to be a serious problem for us, and I
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: think a lot of business people would look really hard
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: at their bottom line and their costs.
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: Well.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: When we spoke to Luise Blato yesterday from the Northern
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Territory Road Transport Association, she did say, and I know
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: that they're impacted quite differently, but she did say that, yeah,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: there have been you know, there has been a situation
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: over the last twelve months or so where some people
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: have decided to not continue on in terms of running
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: their businesses, but she said that it's like it's going
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: to be really difficult in coming months and years.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: And what's that product that additive you put in that
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: blue So apparently there's an issue with that as well. Well,
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: it's not too bad at the moment. We did ask
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: her about that, but I think there's a refinery or
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: somewhere in Brisbane where they're currently getting that ad blue from.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: But I don't know if that's sort of a long
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: term commitments. So that's going to be interesting to see
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: how it all flows. I'm sure that there'll be someone
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: listening this morning who's got some insight if you want
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: to send us a message zero four double nine seven
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: double one three six zero.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: But you know, when you talk about.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: That cost of living, and this is something that we've
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: spoken about a lot, Joe. I know that the COLP
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: have come out and basically said that you've got this
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: fuel Priced Disclosure Bill that's going through Parliament not next
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: week the week after and calling on the government to
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: support and.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Pass that bill at the next sittings.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: The Chief Minister Natasha Files did say on the show
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: on Wednesday that they are going to be having a
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: look at that bill and what's included.
• 27:39
  Speaker 10: Yeah, that's right, Katie, and we introduce that in July.
• 27:42
  Speaker 10: But you know, with the cost of fuel, that just
• 27:44
  Speaker 10: goes on. As we know, we have the highest cost
• 27:46
  Speaker 10: of living here in the territory, and that has a
• 27:48
  Speaker 10: flow on effect right from you know, everyone right across,
• 27:52
  Speaker 10: whether you're going to do your groceries, you know, childcare,
• 27:57
  Speaker 10: everything freight. It affects everyone in the territory. So yeah,
• 28:02
  Speaker 10: that's good to hear that the Chief Minister is going
• 28:03
  Speaker 10: to actually have a look at that. Maybe we could
• 28:05
  Speaker 10: have some kind of uh, you know, consultation together, so
• 28:10
  Speaker 10: that will be that would probably be a first Katie.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean I don't know how deep were
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: you looking to it, Lauren.
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: I understand that Eva Lolo, who's obviously the Treasurer and
• 28:20
  Speaker 7: the Minister responsible for Transports, organized a briefing around that
• 28:25
  Speaker 7: particular piece of legislation, so you know, we've got an
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: open mind.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: We'll have a look at it at it, you know,
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: and we've talked about it before.
• 28:33
  Speaker 7: I know the Chief Minister's been in touch with b
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: A Triple C, who obviously monitor around claims of non
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: competitive pricing those sorts of things and obviously is looking
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: at this issue across.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: The country and also recommended that measure.
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: Of the excize. But you know, we really encourage people still.
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: I know, the my Fuel I was having a look
• 28:56
  Speaker 7: at that this morning, the my Fuel website where you
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: can see the sort of prices at the bowser and
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: you know there is a couple there that are significantly
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: different to some of the others.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: So you know, I really do.
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: Encourage people where you've got the opportunity to to be
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: filling up in those places that have the cheap of
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: fuel and sort of like vote with your feet as well.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know how successful the fuel priced
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: Explosure bill will be to get through.
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: I mean, looking back at my story seven.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: Years ago again about those good old Pete Davies and
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: the Jiles government pulled out that bill as well, and
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: I mean it's it's almost the threat of doing it
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: can sometimes have anything different central prices. So I mean,
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: those big businesses, whether they would allow a law like
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: that to stand and then you know, more likely take
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: it to court and then you're going to have to
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: use taxpayer money to fight it to keep it in place,
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: which we've seen in the northern Territory and past times.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: But it's incredibly it's worth a crackshaw.
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: I just don't know how successful it is, But certainly
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: it's more the threat.
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: I sort of think to myself that anything.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Look, I kind of think, you know, Adam Giles, for all,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: you know, all the criticism that he copped over the years,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: no doubt about it, he he did hold that hold
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: and did do a few things like that.
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: It did have to get dragged kicking and screaming.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Certainly, there's no doubt about that.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: But you know, I sort of can't understand, like I
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: know that my fuel lap is something that the government
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: looks to at different times.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Lauren, you just mentioned it before.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: Essentially what it shows, and I did say this to
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Sandy Ato, the Northern Territory Consumer Affairs Commissioner, earlier in
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: the week. It literally shows that everybody's at exactly the
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: same price besides about two of them. So I you know,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: it makes you wonder if if one of them goes
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: all right, oh here we are a dollar sixty nine,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: let's all go a dollar sixty nine, and then what
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: is always worth noting, I reckon is going from the
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: bottom up. So the ones that kick off a little
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: bit more expensive. And what we're starting to see today
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: is some of those coals express service stations have gone
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: up to a dollar seventy two, so they've jumped by
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: a number since yesterday.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: That's what's to watch is the ones that are the highest.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Once they tick off, then.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: All of the others follow suit, and then you start
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: to see everybody put their prices up.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: So Katie, you know back, I'm not just someone send
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: me some information. Back in twenty nineteen, the Treasure, the
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: Federal Treasure I'll issue a new direction to the A
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: Triple Seed to monitor the prices, costs and profits relating
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: to the supply of petroleum. So, and I know the
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: Chief Ministry from memory did write to the A Triple
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: See in regards to our situation here in the territory.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: But if I was the government, I'd been knocking on
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: that A Triple Sea's door and say, what are you
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: actually doing for us in the Northern Territory. You've been
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: directed to monitor and look at the excuse me, fuel
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: prices and what happens to the supply of our products here.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: So what are you actually doing? What have you found
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: and what are you doing to help us or help
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: just the humble person on the street or the fisherman
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: who wants to go fishing, even more for fisher woman.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: So I think there needs to be a pap stations
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: a fisher person, help a hunter and a gatherer, so
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: you need to be.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Catching her own fishing and for dinner.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: That's right. So maybe it's when this fuel bill of
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: the colp is debated in the House, maybe there should
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: be some deep references and deep research into what the
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: h we'll see has said they're going to.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: Do and actually doing it and the criticism in the
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: past of not having any teeth because they have investigated
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: up here before and nothing changes from it. Yeah, I
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: mean they need to do something.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Well, let's take a very short break. You are listening
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: to Mix one oh four nine's three sixty. It is
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: the week that was in the studio with us is
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Lauren Moss, Kezierpuric, Kathleen Gazzola, and Joe Hersey. Now, there
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: has been so much to cover off throughout this week,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: but I do just want to touch on after talking
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: about the cost of living. Now, this is a topic
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: that just continues to roll on and on and on,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: and I feel like it's going to until we get
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: to some kind of resolution, and that is indeed this
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: public service pay freeze. We know that throughout the week
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: of course, well Friday last week it was Northern Territory
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: teachers voted down the latest payoffer. I believe it was
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: eighty six percent of the had said no, not good enough.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: We're not happy with the offer that's been put on
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: the table. A little bit of a change, I think
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: you'd have to say to the Chief Minister's language through
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: the week when it comes to finding a resolution, and
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: it is looking more and more likely that something is
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: going to have to happen here. There is going to
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: have to be some movement on this pay freeze. But
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: where are they going to find the money? I think
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: is the big question on everyone's lips.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: They can find money for buddy by elections, so they
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: can find money to pay our teachers and nurses and
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: police and firemen, for women more for the what they
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: do in their course of their employment. I mean, they
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: just have to find the money do the deal on
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: the credit card.
• 33:41
  Speaker 10: And also they can find the money for the replacement
• 33:44
  Speaker 10: licenses for octas, but they can't find money for teachers
• 33:48
  Speaker 10: to have a real.
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: So I mean it was ten million. I forget whether
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: the preschool was needed or not. They found ten million
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: for the preschool, something else for Vesty, three million for
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: Bunda for this and something for that electorate. Was that Keith?
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: That might have been Fanny.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Bay mean think you know?
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: And like for example, out at to Midmen, we're still
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: struggling to get the bloody block fifteen fixed. I mean
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: it's that he'd just gone out to tender to refit.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: It was damaged in that smoke and fire.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: So it's been going.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: They've been dragged their feet when it comes to spending
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: money in critical areas like to Midmen, which is bursting
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: at the seams.
• 34:19
  Speaker 10: You've only got to ask Steve Edgington from Berkley about
• 34:22
  Speaker 10: Ali Kurung. You know, there's continuous issues down there, and
• 34:25
  Speaker 10: there's been there and I saw no money.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: And I saw something down in Alice Springs bath streets
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: meant to be revegetated and made pretty and it still
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: hasn't been finished, you know, So it.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Is a dog's breakfast bath streets.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: Find the money, Just do the deal with these critical
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: public servants who are the front line workers, and just
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: let's get on with get if you can sort out
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: this issue. You know, like it's no good just chucking
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: a bit of peace, bit of bread, heat a bit
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: of bread there, saying come on, this should be enough
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: for you. You know, you've got to do some serious discussions.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: And well, teach, I'm sure that the teachers union and
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: the fire officers union and all those kind of people,
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: I don't think. Sure they might be a little bit
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: unreasonable at times, but hey, that's part of negotiation. But
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: come to the table and put some serious money and
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: decisions on the table.
• 35:04
  Speaker 10: But also, and also it's about negotiation, not saying this
• 35:09
  Speaker 10: is what we've got and then the union has to say,
• 35:12
  Speaker 10: well no, you know, negotiating is people actually working out
• 35:16
  Speaker 10: some kind of resolution, not putting something up as the
• 35:19
  Speaker 10: government have and then eighty six percent saying no.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: And I know that over the weekend as well, we
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: saw in Queensland the police officers in Queensland excepted an
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: eleven percent pay increase.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Over three years.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: And then I believe that there was also some other
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: sort of you know, some other initiatives that went on
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: with that. I think what we're going to find and
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: the difficulty we're going to find and we've all spoken
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: about this before, is that we're competing with other states
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: and territories. Whether you're talking about our nurses or our teachers,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: whatever you you know, whichever frontline worker you are talking about,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: we are going to be competing with those other states,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: which is going to get increasingly difficult.
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's not just about pay, Katie. That's about
• 35:57
  Speaker 7: a whole range of other conditions as well, and teacher
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: wellbeing and principal well being and how we're providing professional
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: development around the increasingly complex needs in our classrooms. So
• 36:09
  Speaker 7: these are all things that government is investing in looking at.
• 36:12
  Speaker 7: And you know, yes, it is a negotiation and that's why,
• 36:16
  Speaker 7: you know, the government had come back to the table
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: with a more generous offer, and that's what a negotiation is.
• 36:22
  Speaker 7: So we will continue to go through that process with
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: the teachers. We absolutely value them. We've got more money
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: going into our schools than we've ever had and I
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: think that's really positive. I just wanted to make a
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: comment because it came up in there around the opts
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: and the licenses. We are pursuing opts for that money back. Yeah,
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: I don't think that there's people. I don't think people
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: out there are you know, I think they're pretty happy
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: actually that they will have their fees waved to get
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: that replaced. But optors should be paying for that, not
• 36:50
  Speaker 7: tax payers.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: So just note for well, isn't that I mean, I
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: do want to talk about that.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: That optus hack is just extraordinary, is what's gone on there,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: because it.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: Does affect potentially twenty thousand territories. The thing about the teachers,
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: or any person for that matter, in those kinds of work,
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: it is more expensive to recruit than retain.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: If we're going to.
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: Start to lose teachers and other people by the end
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: of this year, given we're hitting into term four, it's
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: going to cost a hell of a lot more money
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: to buddy get new teachers than to keep the existing
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: good teachers we've got. Now, not saying new teachers wouldn't
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: be good, but the ones we've got now clearly our experience,
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: they've got knowledge of their school and the territory system.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: So get to the table and.
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: See how many we've actually lost. When school starts next year,
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: because this is the school holidays that apparently a lot
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: of teachers then decide whether they're coming.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: Back or not.
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: I mean, I mean the government really is now with
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: their backs against the wall. It's almost like they have
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: to backflip and go room to get it across.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: So that I found interesting, and I will say this
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: to both sides, you know, to both the COLP and
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: also the Labor Party and even New Kesier, is that
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: you know, nobody's sort of coming forward with any real
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: savings measures. And I think that fundamentally there are going
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: to need to be some savings measures made. One of
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: our listeners had suggested, and I actually think that it's
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: not a bad idea. You know, do we look at
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: at the number of executive level positions we've got within
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: the public service? Do we need to look at how
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: many consultants we are hiring and utilizing different So why not?
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: You know, that is the situation. I mean, our budget
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: hasn't changed. Our budget is still absolutely shot and even
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: worse than when Langolance's report came out five years ago.
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: So I mean the government does have to.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: Do budget repair, and I mean credit to the chiefs
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: she's sticking to it and saying that we're in a
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: position that we.
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: Have to fix it still.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: But you know, public servants going through what has had
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: just had to go through with the pandemic. Do deserve
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: to be rewarded for the hard work that they did.
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: It's not just teachers facing this, it's the firefighters, it's
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: the nurses, it's the corrections offices. And as you said,
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: recruiting from interstate is extremely difficult when you're facing up
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: against those other benefits that they're getting.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: We will take a very short break, and when we
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: come back, I am teen to talk about that Optus
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: hack that's coming your way very shortly right here on
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Mix one oh four nine's three sixty. It is the
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: week that was you are listening to the week that
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: was only a few minutes left.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: And we know that.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: OPTAs has advised that a number of Northern Territory customers
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: whose driver's license data has been stolen will it's around
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: twenty thousand they're suspecting for the Northern Territory. And you know,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I was getting messages yesterday from listeners saying that they
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: hadn't been Optus customers for quite some time, and still
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: you know, their data has been shared.
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: That's probably more than that twenty thousand.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're also still in the database in that in
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: the bottom left corner of the computers the past customers.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: But it's just unbelievable.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: I just find it extraordinary that some personal persons have
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: hacked into a major corporate company. And I can guarantee
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: you all the other big corporates around these, including telsterone
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: ever else has telecommunications, we're looking pretty clearly having a
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: very close.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Security at their security.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: The nine network was hacked over a year ago when
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: you know, before I went on maternally and the nine
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: network was hacked. Our entire broadcast across the country, our
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: computer systems, our archives and everything was completely impacted.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: So it's almost an industry in itself, you know, this
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: this hacking business, and I find it just really strange that,
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: you know, whoever the persons are, you know, we only
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: want a million, like seriously, if you're going to hack
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: something like exactly because when they catch it, you're going
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: to be in big trouble, So that'd be bloody worth it.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: It's just unbelievable to think though that, you know, in
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: this day and age like that many people's personal.
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: Data the technology, Yeah, it.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Really does, and and you know how much of an
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: impact it can have, and.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: They care to apparently to do with medicare. It's all
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: and the past. What's something it's all to do with
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: that you need one hundred points to get something and
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: I just not that. I'm putting a plug out for
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: the mates at Telsa, but I've never been with actors.
• 41:05
  Speaker 10: It's just you're not with Tea in the territory.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: It's not worth being.
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: Plug in te Look.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: A bit of a light message here from from one
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: of our listeners, Dean from Bakewell. He said, Hey, Katie
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: and guys, just wanted to lighten the conversation for a bit.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Tell everybody on the panel for the first time in
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: territory history, it's actually cheaper to fly than drive.
• 41:30
  Speaker 10: I don't know about that because extremely expensive at the moment.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: What about a gas Does that get affected.
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: By your post?
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: No, honestly I do not read it down.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got so many messages coming through this morning.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: There has been a lot coming through on the text
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: line obviously plenty of people wanting to, you know, to
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: have the essay as we've been discussing various issues this morning.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: None from your mom Kezier.
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: This morning Nuchin into that mummy wake up.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Last timehe Kesier wasn't in the studio. Her mum had
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: messaged to see where she was.
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: She did and I.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: Did check her phone. See that's the trouble when you're quick,
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: your mother. With all this new technology, you know, they
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: just get ahead of themselves.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Well, it has been a very busy morning this morning,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: but we are going to have to wrap up for
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: the morning.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Lauren Moss.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Always good to have you in the studio. Thank you
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: so much for your time this morning.
• 42:21
  Speaker 7: Thank you for having me a hope see a few
• 42:23
  Speaker 7: people at tropicontomorrow getting.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: Will you be getting dressed up? I've got a costumes.
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: Probably not, Evelyn might be, oh very cute.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: Christume gets what kind of costume I've got?
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: What have you got? Key? But listen, Katie, seriously.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: I want to put a plug in for Chris Nathaniel,
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: now Krista Thaniel from Tropic Culture. He's been forty five
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: years working in living in the churchy plus longer and
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: he's you know, he's the father of exotic fruit trees.
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: He grafts mangoes and those who know him, no, Christnathaniel,
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: He's got a special day on tomorrow at his face
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: placed down at Horn and it was a ticket sale thing.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: It was sold out within days. Actually so. The other
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: thing about Chris was when eight DM was eight DM,
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: which was a precursor to this channel, Chris Nathaniel was
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: an announcer.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, how wonderful for a chat wonder I.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: Think you should yea because I mean Chris is well
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: in my view, he was the person who brought dragon
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: fruit to the territory. He's the prominent preominant expert on
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: all things fruit, trees, herbs, grafting. He provides all the
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: grafted mango trees to most of the farmers. So big
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: shout out to Chris.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, may me get him in.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: He can talk about eight d M days.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: He's got that smooth silk voice. That's how lovely good
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: on him.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Kathleen Gazola, good to have you back, ladies. Wonderful to
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: see you and Joe Hersey, thanks so much for joining
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: us for your first week.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: That was stunt pecky.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Listeners. Yes, I survived my first week.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Thank you around, Thank you all so much for your
• 43:55
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  Speaker 1: four nine's three sixties