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The Most Dramatic Hometowns EVER · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with i R Radio. It is a huge episode. We're
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Speaker 1: still in Tahoe at Squaw Valley hanging out. Ashley, thank
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Speaker 1: you so much for coming to Bachelor Live on Stage
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Speaker 1: last night. It was so much fun. It's pure two
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Speaker 1: hours of entertainment. I think the best part of the
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Speaker 1: show is if you love the Bachelor, when you come
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Speaker 1: to Bachelor Live on Stage, you've got to expect for
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Speaker 1: the whole season to be condensed down to two hours,
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Speaker 1: and so you hopefully see some type of connection made
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Speaker 1: from start to finish within a two hours show. We
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Speaker 1: talked a lot about Bachelor Live on Stage last episode.
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Speaker 1: Make sure you go check out our Valentine's Day special
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Speaker 1: where we ask some ridiculous questions to some of Bachelor
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Speaker 1: Nation's favorite couples, including Ashley and Jeared. So the part
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Speaker 1: of us being together on Tahoe meant that we got
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Speaker 1: to watch the episode together together this weekend, and it
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Speaker 1: was so much fun doing it as a group, and
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Speaker 1: I like love that I was able to look at
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Speaker 1: you in the middle of certain hearts and be like, oh,
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Speaker 1: we're talking about that. Oh, I can't believe that just
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Speaker 1: happened and watched as a group in a long time,
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Speaker 1: because when I do watch as a group, you can
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Speaker 1: barely hear anything, and we need to pick up all
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Speaker 1: these little nuances. But it was actually fun and somehow
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Speaker 1: we were able to really pick up on everything. I
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Speaker 1: actually think Ashley and I might be wrong. I'm just
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Speaker 1: gonna throw it out there and see what you think. Um.
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Speaker 1: In the two and a half years that we've done
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Speaker 1: this podcast, was last night that it was like, no,
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Speaker 1: was the last night with this weekend we watched the
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Speaker 1: episode was the very first time we've ever watched an
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Speaker 1: episode together. Yeah, I think it actually is something we
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Speaker 1: should why do more often? It was fun and it
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Speaker 1: was actually like I do get a little annoyed sometimes,
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Speaker 1: like in all events watching sports with people, or like
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Speaker 1: watching the Batcher because you need to hear it. But
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Speaker 1: when we watched together, people were screaming, yelling, like, I
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Speaker 1: see why people get so invested in the show now. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's it's fun, it's a team sport. It's a team sport. Well, Ashley,
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Speaker 1: this is a huge episode. Let's pause here, take one break.
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Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna dive into dissecting this episode.
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Speaker 1: From start to finish, and trust me, this episode had action,
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Speaker 1: had drama, had confusion from start to finish. We'll be
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Speaker 1: back with the Almost Fame podcast. We start out on
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Speaker 1: the very first hometown date with Hannah and somebody. Actually
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Speaker 1: at this point in the season, it's now a time
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Speaker 1: for us to pause to understand who's left and we
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Speaker 1: can really start to dissect their stories with the bachelor,
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Speaker 1: which in this case is Peter. Hannah Ann has I
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Speaker 1: would say been one at the beginning I thought had
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Speaker 1: a good chance, but yet kind of disappeared, kind of
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Speaker 1: gotten the fringe of like wait, is she gonna be
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Speaker 1: the villain, and then kind of was quiet for a
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Speaker 1: few weeks and now we still see her around. On
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Speaker 1: what's your thoughts on Hannah Anne? My thought is that, like,
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Speaker 1: I get why she why he likes her, but I
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Speaker 1: don't see him falling in love with her. And it
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Speaker 1: seemed like he was very anxious last night to say
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Speaker 1: I'm falling in love with you, And it was crazy
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Speaker 1: that he was like down to say that because her
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Speaker 1: dad clearly said, do not say this to my daughter
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Speaker 1: unless basically she's the one, Like unless you one no
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Speaker 1: doubt feel it, So like he likes her enough. You're
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Speaker 1: telling me that after that conversation with the dad, he
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Speaker 1: likes her enough to do it. He loves her enough.
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Speaker 1: That would be my That would be my take. If
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Speaker 1: I just had last night and a micro coos him
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Speaker 1: to review, I would have watched the dad's conversation with Peter.
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Speaker 1: How intentional the dad was by saying, Peter, I'm not
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Speaker 1: going to close this door on you, Like I'm not
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Speaker 1: totally against this, but just know, if this is not
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Speaker 1: pretty much what I took from this is, if this
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Speaker 1: is not a first sure thing, please don't tell my
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Speaker 1: daughter this. And I get this from my own experience.
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Speaker 1: I've been there, like those words matter. And then he just,
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Speaker 1: you know, closes the door. You know, he walks out
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Speaker 1: of the house, two steps, closes the door and says it. So,
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Speaker 1: in my take, Ashley, if I were to sit here
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Speaker 1: to today with you without knowing anything else, I would say,
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Speaker 1: Hannah and is the front runner? I guess so right
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Speaker 1: based on that, we would have to say the intentionality
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Speaker 1: of the conversation. And then how quickly he responded by saying, Hannah,
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Speaker 1: and your dad told me not to say this unless
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Speaker 1: you're the one, but I'm falling for you, but he
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Speaker 1: knows that his feelings for Madison are stronger. We don't
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Speaker 1: know that right now. Based on last week, I think
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Speaker 1: that the dude knows. I'm saying, just on that conversation
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Speaker 1: and how Peter responded, we have to say, Hanah AND's
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Speaker 1: the front unner. Just to preface this whole breakdown of
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Speaker 1: the episode, the dates on hometowns are great, They're fine.
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Speaker 1: I don't think we get to know a lot about
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Speaker 1: the person before we get to the house. The house, like,
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Speaker 1: we don't even talk about that. Yeah, the house is
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Speaker 1: what matters. So we start out hot. I know last
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Speaker 1: night when we were watching the episode, we're freaked out.
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Speaker 1: We both this is the first time we looked at
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Speaker 1: each other. We're like, holy cow, and I wonder and
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Speaker 1: we don't know this ship. This could either be. I
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Speaker 1: will say this, and and everybody's knows that I've been
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Speaker 1: a proponent of Peter all season. I think he's a
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Speaker 1: nice guy. I think the contestants overwhelmed him. I think
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Speaker 1: he really wants to see this work. I think we
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Speaker 1: need to still root for Peter. I will say this,
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Speaker 1: mark my words. The decision Peter made last night after
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Speaker 1: having the conversation with Handa, Anne will either go down
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Speaker 1: as the most beautiful moment of the season or his
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Speaker 1: worst mistake. His worst we already saw a worst mistake
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Speaker 1: later in the episode. We're not there yet. I will say,
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Speaker 1: I will say that when a dad looks at you,
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Speaker 1: or any family member looks at you and says, please
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Speaker 1: do not say this to my daughter unless it is
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Speaker 1: the real thing, and then you respond by saying it,
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Speaker 1: it either will be a beautiful moment for us to
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Speaker 1: celebrate and go that's when we recognized it, or if
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Speaker 1: he doesn't choose Hannah, and at the end, we'll say
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Speaker 1: that was a really terrible decision. And I and I
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Speaker 1: speak from this not in judgment, because I've been there.
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Speaker 1: I've made a similar mistake in my life on this experience,
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Speaker 1: and I know the emotions of how that feels. I'm
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Speaker 1: saying for my own mistakes and that I've learned from
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Speaker 1: and looking back on, it will either be a great
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Speaker 1: moment or a really really hard moment. Okay, So I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna just not agree with you here because I think
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Speaker 1: there's gonna be I think him you know, I know
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Speaker 1: I'm skipping ahead, but I think him keeping Victoria is like,
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Speaker 1: you're right, maybe not morally as much of a mistake
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Speaker 1: as it is just like talk to a girl's dad
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Speaker 1: and then say it. But I think that the drama ahead,
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Speaker 1: based on the scenes for the next episode, allude to
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Speaker 1: me that he makes a bigger mistake. We don't Actually
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying is we don't. I don't, we don't know.
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Speaker 1: I know you're talking about in this episode, what we
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Speaker 1: know so far leading up to this point without assuming anything,
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Speaker 1: we cannot assume anything of how this plays out assumptions
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Speaker 1: we at this point, that's where we're at. Moving on.
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Speaker 1: Then we get in the next home date, hometown date,
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Speaker 1: which was it was Kelsey Kelsey. I think at this
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Speaker 1: point we pretty much knew that unless at this point
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Speaker 1: we're watching the episode chronologically, it felt like Kelsey definitely
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Speaker 1: had the least amount of connection with Peter outside of
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Speaker 1: everybody else. In my opinion, yeah, I guess we're at
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Speaker 1: that point. I don't know. I don't know. I think
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Speaker 1: that based on me, you know, I don't know, because
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Speaker 1: watching them versus watching Hannah Ann and him, I feel
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Speaker 1: more of a connection between him and Kelsey than him
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Speaker 1: and Hannah and Why is that you felt like that
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Speaker 1: the whole season. You've been a Kelsey supporter. Really, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: because I get her because she's such a crier, she's
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Speaker 1: so expressive her emotion. She's so like shamelessly open about it.
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Speaker 1: So I like her because of that. But I also
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Speaker 1: feel like he's the kind of guy that really connects
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Speaker 1: to women who show emotion. And I just feel like,
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Speaker 1: like two weeks ago he was asking Hannah and to
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Speaker 1: show him more, and this in this episode, like he's
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Speaker 1: falling in love with her. Like, I just don't know
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Speaker 1: where this came about. I did, actually, and I don't
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Speaker 1: know if it will be a popular opinion or not.
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Speaker 1: I really did enjoy Kelsey and Peter's date at the wine.
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Speaker 1: I thought the wine thing was really fun. I thought
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Speaker 1: it was a good date. It was a fun idea.
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Speaker 1: I think it'd actually be a great group date on
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Speaker 1: the season if everybody stood inside and made some wine.
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Speaker 1: Maybe they've done it, I don't know. But the um
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Speaker 1: then we go to the home, which we've learned about
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Speaker 1: Kelsey's home life really throughout the season, and the bad
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Speaker 1: thing didn't come up. The dad thing didn't come up,
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Speaker 1: which was surprising to me. Because it was such a
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Speaker 1: powerful moment for their relationship early on in the season.
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Speaker 1: Yeah wait, thinking about that, that's so crazy. You would
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Speaker 1: think that they would have had some play on the
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Speaker 1: dad during Hometowns after she did big reveal to him
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Speaker 1: last week about how she's in touch with him but
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Speaker 1: her mom doesn't know yet. So that part was intrigued
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Speaker 1: to me. Not because I need to get into their
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Speaker 1: family business and as a viewer I don't, but like,
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Speaker 1: if I was Peter and if I'm Kelsey, I'm walking
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Speaker 1: into that house going what is the dynamic? Like I
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Speaker 1: want to ask some of the questions to understand how
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Speaker 1: the mom feels. Well, we don't know. Was it it
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Speaker 1: was a stepdad, Yeah, it's a stepdad. So I think
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Speaker 1: Kelsey's hometown date was done beautifully, but it felt like
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Speaker 1: it fell short compared to the others. Okay, fair enough, yes,
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Speaker 1: fair enough, fair enough. So at this point in the episode, UM,
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Speaker 1: just to make this as simple as possible for everybody
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Speaker 1: listening and for ourselves, we have a hometown date with
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Speaker 1: Hannah Ann and a hometown date with Kelsey. Hannah Ann's
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Speaker 1: hometown date, I thought felt emotional. It felt like it
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Speaker 1: pulled at the heartstrings. It felt like Hannah An maybe
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Speaker 1: for the first time all season, was authentically looking at
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Speaker 1: Peter and going, I don't want to lose you. I
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Speaker 1: think the rest of the time was kind of this confusion,
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Speaker 1: like I really am falling for you. I like you
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Speaker 1: a lot. I think I think I might love you,
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Speaker 1: but I don't know. I thought at the hometowns it
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Speaker 1: maybe hit her that this guy is somebody she doesn't
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Speaker 1: want to lose. Okay, I really wish that I could
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Speaker 1: feel this. I don't feel it. I don't feel Hannah
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Speaker 1: and this connection to him at all. Tori, I think
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Speaker 1: I need another girl's perspective. Are you feeling are you?
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Speaker 1: Are you feeling at all about Peter and any connection?
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Speaker 1: And this is not me like mean girling her because
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Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season I didn't love her.
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Speaker 1: Producer Tori, who is kindly engineering and editing this podcast
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Speaker 1: here in Tahoe, is sitting here with a response, I
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Speaker 1: haven't felt a connection from the beginning. That's just me.
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Speaker 1: I also will say, though I don't know if the
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Speaker 1: person to ask, because I don't feel connection with any
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Speaker 1: of these girls, i'd feel a connection. I feel like
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Speaker 1: he has a connection obviously with Victoria f and then
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Speaker 1: which is weird, which is weird about one and then
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Speaker 1: we I obviously feel like he has a connection with Madison.
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Speaker 1: I think Hannah, and it's like he loves his little
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Speaker 1: Alabama girls, you know, and she's endearing and she's sweet
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Speaker 1: and she's beautiful. But I don't think he really I
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Speaker 1: don't interpret it as like he sees her as his wife.
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Speaker 1: He sees her as like she's just really cute girl
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Speaker 1: and like we're doing this together. Yeah, he's she's a
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Speaker 1: really cute girl like he'd like to date. But like,
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Speaker 1: I don't think that he has like this overwhelming emotion
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Speaker 1: for her. But I guess I'm wrong considering he's saying
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Speaker 1: I'm falling in love with it. Well yeah. And I
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Speaker 1: will say though his his letter, the list of things
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Speaker 1: he loves about her was sweet of him to do. Yes,
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Speaker 1: it was sweet, and it's a gesture that like he
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Speaker 1: didn't need to do. I will say that from personal
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Speaker 1: experience on the show is that had to be his choice.
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Speaker 1: He had to be sitting there going I want to
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Speaker 1: offer Hannah and something and this was his choice to do,
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Speaker 1: which is a very very good moment. Moving on then
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Speaker 1: from the hannah An and Kelty we get into really
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Speaker 1: the pivotal moments of this episode. We've all been interested
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Speaker 1: in madison storyline. We felt, like a lot of us
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Speaker 1: that Madison had the most genuine relationship with Peter and
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Speaker 1: probably the best potential to be with Peter long term
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Speaker 1: after this experience. We felt like that for really weeks
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Speaker 1: since week one. It's a lot of times our listeners
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Speaker 1: have been writing us like crazy saying that she is
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Speaker 1: the only one that they have felt any connection with,
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Speaker 1: that any type of like rooting for in this whole thing.
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Speaker 1: So this was a big moment for Peter to go
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Speaker 1: to her hometown. Uh. We pick it up in at
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Speaker 1: Auburn University, where Madison's father is an assistant basketball coach there,
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Speaker 1: and then we go to a beautiful home wherever. That
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Speaker 1: was their beautiful home there in Auburn, which I thought
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Speaker 1: was like the coolest thing I've ever seen. I love
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Speaker 1: that style very um And there is some underlying things
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Speaker 1: with the relationship with Madison and Peter that I don't
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Speaker 1: feel like either of them are doing a great job
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Speaker 1: talking about. And I think it came to the surface
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Speaker 1: during Hometowns when the family asked Madison, Madison pretty much,
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Speaker 1: how much does Peter know about you and your choices
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Speaker 1: and your morals and your values in life, the faith
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Speaker 1: that you hold and why you hold to this faith.
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Speaker 1: And it felt like at that moment she froze and like,
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Speaker 1: I'm assuming what we saw she wanted to say is
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Speaker 1: he doesn't know a lot about it, which is obviously,
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Speaker 1: to the people that know and love Madison best, the
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Speaker 1: most foundational important thing about who she is and what
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Speaker 1: makes her tick. Yeah. I feel like when we're watching
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Speaker 1: that part, I kind of feel for Madison because her
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Speaker 1: parents are like, have you had these serious conversations? And
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Speaker 1: she's like, well, I've broached the topic. We definitely discussed it.
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Speaker 1: But I think in her head she's probably like, you
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Speaker 1: guys don't understand this process. I've had to one on
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Speaker 1: ones with them, Like that's two dates, Like would you
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Speaker 1: be bringing this stuff up on your third day in
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Speaker 1: real life? Like it's not you really want to like
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Speaker 1: create a camaraderie before you start getting that serious. I
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Speaker 1: do agree. I think there's an intentionality to it all.
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Speaker 1: I think, and I've said this before, I think it's
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Speaker 1: the part that Peter has missed on the most all
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Speaker 1: season is digging in and asking important Okay, so that's
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Speaker 1: that's definitely I think he did is when she brings
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Speaker 1: up to him in the last episode, like to talk
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Speaker 1: about any of those things is not easy, you know.
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Speaker 1: Jessica and I, I'd say it took us a few
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Speaker 1: dates when we really started to talk about, Hey, these
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Speaker 1: are my expectations, these who this is who I want
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Speaker 1: to be. This is how I need you to respect
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Speaker 1: me and like honor me as a person. We both
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Speaker 1: shared that to each other early on, so that I
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Speaker 1: could be the man that she needed me to be
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Speaker 1: to her, and she could be the woman that I
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Speaker 1: needed her to be to me. That wasn't too far
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Speaker 1: into our relationship that we started to have those kind
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Speaker 1: of conversations. Just say, as we progressed forward, just know
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Speaker 1: these are my boundaries, these are my standards, these are
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Speaker 1: this is how I need to be treated, and this
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Speaker 1: is what I know I want in a relationship. That
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Speaker 1: wasn't too far along in our relationship. So so here's
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Speaker 1: the problem. And again let me preface this was saying
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Speaker 1: I am a Peter fan. I like this guy. I
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Speaker 1: think he got a rough go at it when Madison
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Speaker 1: brings up to him the topic of faith yes last
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Speaker 1: week and why faith was so important to her. I
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Speaker 1: will tell you this, in any dating relationship show or
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Speaker 1: not dig in, ask why be curious, be be incredible,
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Speaker 1: be so non apologetically curious that at the end of it,
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Speaker 1: even if you disagree, and even if you have to
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Speaker 1: part ways, at least you understand. And I felt like
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Speaker 1: after that conversation we glossed over it, and last week
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Speaker 1: you were saying last week that you felt like, but
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Speaker 1: I think it's now becoming an issue. It's coming to
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Speaker 1: the surface this week because of the lack of communication
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Speaker 1: last week. I guess I would say to play Devil's advocate, like,
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Speaker 1: perhaps that stuff was edited out. We're not going to
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Speaker 1: see like this in depth religious Actually, I'm gonna interrupt
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Speaker 1: you there. Though I would agree with you that could
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Speaker 1: think I'm just I playing Devil's advocate. I agree with
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Speaker 1: you that it could have been edited out. If at
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Speaker 1: hometowns when her family asked her how much about this
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Speaker 1: Peter knows and she doesn't know how to receive, she
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Speaker 1: wouldn't stuttered. She would have said, oh, we had a
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Speaker 1: great conversation about it last week. And this is how
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Speaker 1: he responded to me, this is what we talked about. Instead,
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Speaker 1: she was like, well, not a lot. Well, I think
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Speaker 1: in that moment with her mom, she was directly referring
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Speaker 1: to saving herself her marriage, and I think Madison was like,
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Speaker 1: I talked about faith with him, but I didn't spell
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Speaker 1: that part out yet, Okay. And I don't think it's
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Speaker 1: wrong of her to wait to fantasy Suites to really
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Speaker 1: have that conversation. Becca did. Becca waited until fantasy Suites
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Speaker 1: for Christals. I think it's a fair time. I think
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Speaker 1: because there's a connotation around fantasy suites, you're going to
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Speaker 1: be spending the night together. What do you expect? What
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Speaker 1: do you want? Like, I think expectations have to get
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Speaker 1: set on both sides. We don't know what happens next
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Speaker 1: week with any of this, but what we do know
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Speaker 1: is that it has to be talked about now like
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Speaker 1: it has this. We have to see both of those
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Speaker 1: Madison and Peter step up and start sharing who they
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Speaker 1: are as people if we're going to root for them
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Speaker 1: to be an actual couple afterwards. Well, we see at
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Speaker 1: the end of the episode she pulls him aside. She's
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Speaker 1: obviously about to go tell him that fair, I hope.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I assume, but again, can we
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Speaker 1: really assume anything on this show. So I think we
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Speaker 1: see her pulling him aside, and I think that's where
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Speaker 1: she's first going to tell him that she's gonna wait
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Speaker 1: till marriage. And then we see them on in a
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Speaker 1: date setting where she goes where she says something along
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Speaker 1: the lines of I'm not going to be okay. She said,
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to be okay with you sleeping with
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Speaker 1: anybody else, or I would consider leaving if I knew
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Speaker 1: that you sleep with anybody else. Yes, we do see that.
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Speaker 1: So here Ashley is where which we may come up
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Speaker 1: with some parallels to the Luke situation, but I don't
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Speaker 1: think we should approach that until next week when we
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Speaker 1: actually see the conversation go down. But here's the thing
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Speaker 1: that we'll be watching for. How Madison presents the topic.
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Speaker 1: Is it the meaning is? Does it feel like she
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Speaker 1: is putting Peter in a corner? Does it feel like
18:34
Speaker 1: she is diminishing who what he feels is right and wrong?
18:37
Speaker 1: Or is she open to having a conversation so that
18:40
Speaker 1: she can share who she is so Peter can share
18:42
Speaker 1: who he is, and they can come to some type
18:45
Speaker 1: of agreement and understanding in the middle. I think that
18:47
Speaker 1: will be the difference between Luke p and Madison. Okay,
18:50
Speaker 1: so the crux of the argument last Okay, there was
18:53
Speaker 1: so many problems with Luke P. But a lot of
18:56
Speaker 1: people had the problem with him that he said that
18:59
Speaker 1: he was trying to tell Hannah what to do with
19:02
Speaker 1: her body, and in this case it might be Madison
19:07
Speaker 1: telling Peter the same. Is there gonna be a double standard?
19:11
Speaker 1: I think listeners, Please write us in at the Ben
19:14
Speaker 1: and Ashley I at my Please write us at Ben
19:17
Speaker 1: and Ashley at iHeart media dot com. Let us know
19:21
Speaker 1: your thoughts. Will there be a double standard? Again, we
19:24
Speaker 1: are assuming we're predicting, But write us in and say,
19:28
Speaker 1: what is it that you're looking for in that conversation
19:30
Speaker 1: with Madison? Because here's the other problem, Ashley, I want
19:34
Speaker 1: and I believe that these conversations need to exist in relationships.
19:39
Speaker 1: So how are they done correctly? And then how are
19:42
Speaker 1: they also done poorly? So that's gonna be really interesting
19:45
Speaker 1: to see how how Madison handles it. Next week, huge storyline,
19:49
Speaker 1: and we can't cannot neglect the final hometown date. When
19:55
Speaker 1: we come back, we are gonna finish breaking down this episode.
19:58
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk Victoria F. And then we might just
20:02
Speaker 1: have to come back around and close out this episode
20:04
Speaker 1: by talking about the roast ceremony. We'll be back with
20:06
Speaker 1: the almost famous podcast Victoria F's Hometown Ish. It felt
20:19
Speaker 1: so good for not very long, actually all season. I
20:25
Speaker 1: mean honestly, it was brought up to me with Becca
20:27
Speaker 1: and Jesse when they came into the podcast is when
20:29
Speaker 1: I first recognized that Victoria F has this tendency to
20:32
Speaker 1: run away to kind of like flip the conversation a
20:35
Speaker 1: little bit, but also just that her and Peters really
20:37
Speaker 1: ship felt so unhealthy. It starts out great, but actually
20:44
Speaker 1: it's actually wacky when you think about the fact that
20:46
Speaker 1: he kept her after all this, It's really like, what
20:48
Speaker 1: the hell does she do to him? Producer Amy thinks
20:51
Speaker 1: that she has like a voodood all and like she's
20:54
Speaker 1: doing some sort of spells on him, which actually at
20:56
Speaker 1: this point doesn't even seem like that wacky. Um. Okay,
20:59
Speaker 1: So they're out on a date. Hunter Hayes shows up,
21:02
Speaker 1: which is funny because you know another country star. I
21:05
Speaker 1: would ask her right away, you haven't dated Hunter Hayes. Right,
21:09
Speaker 1: did you hear the you know the lyrics of that song.
21:11
Speaker 1: It's like this, it's a crazy um is it? Um?
21:14
Speaker 1: I don't need crazy? What is it? I don't want easy,
21:19
Speaker 1: I want crazy? Like I wonder if they were playing
21:22
Speaker 1: into that. I think the show always has some undertones
21:27
Speaker 1: to it. I believe that fully. So. Then his ex
21:30
Speaker 1: Marissa comes up, and it seems like they have a
21:32
Speaker 1: very friendly, trusting relationship. They maybe ex is, but it
21:34
Speaker 1: seems like they ended on good terms, or they ended
21:37
Speaker 1: up very long time ago and they just don't care
21:38
Speaker 1: what happened anymore. But she seems like a resource um
21:42
Speaker 1: that he would trust. And she comes up to him
21:46
Speaker 1: and says, I'm really worried about you pursuing this stuff
21:50
Speaker 1: further with Victorias. She has a really bad reputation around
21:53
Speaker 1: here in the Virginia Beach area. And then, you know,
21:58
Speaker 1: if I were Peter, this is one of those times
22:00
Speaker 1: been where he doesn't dig, I'd be like, what what
22:03
Speaker 1: do you mean? Like tell me everything? I'd like, tell
22:06
Speaker 1: me everything. He's shocked. He is, He's shocked and thrown off.
22:09
Speaker 1: And I think Ashley, in this moment two he had
22:11
Speaker 1: had such a good day with the woman. He's obviously
22:13
Speaker 1: into that. It just felt defeating. I think he was
22:16
Speaker 1: just defeated. Yeah, he was like again, more drama with
22:19
Speaker 1: her again. So Marissa says that Victoria f has broken
22:25
Speaker 1: up relationships in the past, has meddled, and those relationships
22:29
Speaker 1: have gone after her involvement, So he doesn't, you know,
22:36
Speaker 1: he doesn't dig further than that, And I would be like,
22:38
Speaker 1: tell me everything you know. But then again, okay, and
22:41
Speaker 1: then from our sources that we hear that are close
22:45
Speaker 1: to the situation, who have known Victoria in the past
22:49
Speaker 1: in Virginia Beach, and we hope to have one of
22:52
Speaker 1: these sources on the podcast by the end of the season.
22:55
Speaker 1: But right now I can just say that allegedly they
23:00
Speaker 1: say that she has broken up marriages, her friends marriages.
23:07
Speaker 1: We don't have confirmation of this. All we're saying is
23:10
Speaker 1: that our source is telling us that that is their
23:16
Speaker 1: opinion of what has gone down between Victoria and some
23:19
Speaker 1: other men in the Virginia Beach area. This is obviously
23:24
Speaker 1: just something we've heard. It is not confirmed by any means.
23:30
Speaker 1: But no matter what, this is a heavy situation for
23:35
Speaker 1: Peter to process. I cannot imagine being in his footsteps
23:40
Speaker 1: going on a great date with somebody he cares about,
23:43
Speaker 1: having somebody come up to you randomly who you've dated.
23:47
Speaker 1: In saying, Peter, I think you're a great guy and
23:48
Speaker 1: as a result, I need you to know this that
23:52
Speaker 1: is I mean, watching this again is one of those
23:54
Speaker 1: moments that we talked about every season. It's like one
23:56
Speaker 1: of those moments where like this becomes very real, very quickly,
24:00
Speaker 1: and I feel for Peter because you see it in
24:02
Speaker 1: his eyes where it's just like I don't like, I
24:06
Speaker 1: don't even understand, Like I don't get what you're saying.
24:10
Speaker 1: And let's cut it there, because I think the most
24:13
Speaker 1: important piece of this is Marissa is sharing something with Peter.
24:16
Speaker 1: He ends it with going, I don't understand. I just
24:19
Speaker 1: feel defeated. I'm confused. We pick it up again with
24:24
Speaker 1: Peter showing up at the doorsteps sharing that only Hey, Victoria,
24:29
Speaker 1: I don't understand. I feel defeated. I'm confused. This is
24:33
Speaker 1: what was said to me, and I need to ask
24:35
Speaker 1: you about it because I just need to get it
24:38
Speaker 1: out there. I I can't I care about you too
24:40
Speaker 1: much to let this hang over us. And I thought
24:43
Speaker 1: her response was wildly unfair Todahim. Okay, So first let's
24:48
Speaker 1: just say that she does address the relationship breaking and
24:52
Speaker 1: like the first line she says, like did she say
24:55
Speaker 1: like I and we need I wish I could have
24:56
Speaker 1: the quote, but she said something like I absolutely have
24:59
Speaker 1: not that not the truth, right, something along the lines
25:03
Speaker 1: of like denial. There was denial. There was one sentence
25:06
Speaker 1: of denial before she flips the entire conversation and makes
25:11
Speaker 1: it about how he came here to see her family
25:15
Speaker 1: and how she can't believe that he's bringing something like
25:19
Speaker 1: that up. And it was just like a whole thing
25:22
Speaker 1: where she flipped the conversation and made herself the victim
25:26
Speaker 1: in it. What do we call that? What is that called?
25:29
Speaker 1: There's I'm sure there's some like millennials lighting. This is
25:33
Speaker 1: like a new expression that I'm not really sure it's
25:36
Speaker 1: such a millennial thing. I'm trying to learn what it means.
25:38
Speaker 1: But it basically means like taking a situation and like
25:42
Speaker 1: making the other person feel bad about even bringing it
25:47
Speaker 1: up in the first place. Yeah, exactly makes it's trying
25:50
Speaker 1: to make the other person feel crazy in the situation,
25:53
Speaker 1: and that's exactly what we were feeling here, let's take it.
25:56
Speaker 1: Definitely was trying to make him feel crazy. I thought
25:59
Speaker 1: it was so unfair, because I really do. Everybody's given
26:02
Speaker 1: Peter so much heat this season, like so much, so
26:05
Speaker 1: much heat, and they've also given the ladies a lot
26:08
Speaker 1: of heat as well. I'm saying that it's not like
26:09
Speaker 1: they haven't got off Scott Tree. But I thought he
26:12
Speaker 1: handled this really well. I thought he went into it,
26:14
Speaker 1: took a deep breath, he wasn't angry, he didn't come
26:16
Speaker 1: out with emotion. He just said, Victoria, I need to
26:18
Speaker 1: know this, And all of a sudden he had to
26:21
Speaker 1: get defensive because she's going, you came all the way here,
26:24
Speaker 1: and I was so excited for you mean my family,
26:26
Speaker 1: and you have to bring this up, and he's like, Victory,
26:27
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying. I just I need to
26:30
Speaker 1: talk to my partner right now. So many things. He
26:34
Speaker 1: does handle these situations really well. Like he does he
26:36
Speaker 1: does not have a temper, like, he does not flare up.
26:39
Speaker 1: He really is able to stay even keeled, and I
26:41
Speaker 1: think it's super impressive. But I can't believe that he's
26:46
Speaker 1: actually saying so even keeled when she's slipping this conversation
26:49
Speaker 1: on him like at this point he should probably say
26:52
Speaker 1: something like you stop doing this, back stop, I need
26:57
Speaker 1: to know about what Marissa said, And he never stopped
27:01
Speaker 1: her and never readdressed the actual crux of the situation.
27:06
Speaker 1: It's actually the truth of all this too, is there's
27:09
Speaker 1: an interesting moment where he's standing there in the uh
27:13
Speaker 1: like driveway or in the road with Victoria, and she
27:16
Speaker 1: started saying some stuff to him, and and as we
27:19
Speaker 1: watched together, everybody was like, what, like, what is she saying?
27:23
Speaker 1: In Peter's first response was what are you saying? Like?
27:27
Speaker 1: This isn't making any sense to me, and it wasn't
27:29
Speaker 1: making any sense to any of us. And we leave
27:32
Speaker 1: this conversation, all of us really frustrated, feeling really bad
27:37
Speaker 1: for Peter and also I mean in a sense just
27:40
Speaker 1: that this conversation had to exist in general, and also
27:44
Speaker 1: really confused if it was true or not, because Victoria
27:48
Speaker 1: never completed a sentence. Oh no, no, I was not
27:51
Speaker 1: confused because if anything, her silence and her not denying
27:56
Speaker 1: the allegations was was her telling him exactly what happened,
28:02
Speaker 1: and that was that what Marissa said was true. If
28:05
Speaker 1: if some I'm trying to put myself into her shoes.
28:08
Speaker 1: So if there was something that was asked of me
28:10
Speaker 1: that was not true, like if somebody sat down and said, been,
28:12
Speaker 1: i've heard this about you, and this is what I've heard,
28:18
Speaker 1: I need to know. I think defense being defensive right
28:21
Speaker 1: away is a a natural response. I think you could
28:24
Speaker 1: be like, well, well, this is like but then all
28:26
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I think there's a calmness to it
28:28
Speaker 1: and go, I need you to know that this is
28:30
Speaker 1: not true, and I don't know how to prove it
28:32
Speaker 1: to you, but please like understand that what was ever
28:36
Speaker 1: said is not the case, or like there's a confirmation.
28:40
Speaker 1: They're just saying, like, I know right now this feels heavy.
28:42
Speaker 1: I know it feels weird, but like we're like, I'm
28:44
Speaker 1: willing to work with you for you to understand that
28:48
Speaker 1: this these allegations aren't true, and like I just need
28:51
Speaker 1: you to stick with me as we try to figure
28:53
Speaker 1: this out. I think that's the fair response. Instead, we
28:55
Speaker 1: got a lot of like open ended thoughts of like
28:58
Speaker 1: why don't you want to meet my family? This is
29:00
Speaker 1: so sad, moving us into then the next morning, which
29:03
Speaker 1: I didn't even know I thought that he I thought
29:05
Speaker 1: I broke up with her. I was like, what is this?
29:07
Speaker 1: He just left in the car. There was no conclusion
29:09
Speaker 1: there exactly, So moving is in the next morning, everybody
29:12
Speaker 1: pretty much assumed that Victoria f was gone, that she
29:16
Speaker 1: and that Peter had broken up with her. He's in
29:19
Speaker 1: some hotel room. I can't believe they couldn't have found
29:21
Speaker 1: him a nicer hotel. That thing looks it looks it
29:24
Speaker 1: looks like something that I've I've never I haven't stayed
29:27
Speaker 1: in a long time. Um, But Victoria knocks the door
29:35
Speaker 1: and Ashley we pick it up here with a conversation
29:38
Speaker 1: that still didn't feel conclusive. Conclusive. It felt like a
29:43
Speaker 1: very similar conversation tonight before, except there was no blaming
29:46
Speaker 1: and no shaming that. Yeah, it was like a better
29:48
Speaker 1: conversation as far as like tonality goes, but there's still
29:52
Speaker 1: was no there was no selbstance to it. Here's what
29:54
Speaker 1: I don't like about it, though. The conversation only got
29:57
Speaker 1: to a place of substance because Peter started out right
29:59
Speaker 1: away by apologizing. Why exactly why is he apologizing? First?
30:08
Speaker 1: He does have a voodoo doll. Mean, moving us into
30:11
Speaker 1: the Rose ceremony, where expectations are that probably Victoria f
30:15
Speaker 1: is going home, but nobody really knows that he decides
30:18
Speaker 1: to take her, he just has to take her to
30:20
Speaker 1: the Rose ceremony. He does, which is shocking, shocking, but
30:24
Speaker 1: also as a viewer, you're sitting there going, Okay, let's
30:26
Speaker 1: see how this plays out. We have so much information now.
30:31
Speaker 1: I think most people were like, not, let's see how
30:33
Speaker 1: this plays out. Most people were cursing at him through
30:36
Speaker 1: the TV. Well, I have a feeling that people are.
30:39
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that this will not be a
30:41
Speaker 1: great episode for Peter, and that is so sad to
30:46
Speaker 1: me because I really wanted to see these next few
30:48
Speaker 1: episodes be really good for him, so that he came
30:50
Speaker 1: out of this on top. And I still believe you
30:52
Speaker 1: will again. I still believe there's time and I still
30:55
Speaker 1: believe that will in this by going, Hey, he might
30:57
Speaker 1: have not been the best Bachelor ever that we would
30:59
Speaker 1: have expected, but he's been good, and he tried so
31:03
Speaker 1: hard and he cared so much, and I and I
31:05
Speaker 1: know Bachelor Nation will root for him. Can we can
31:07
Speaker 1: we say that like some people can be fantastic, good charactered,
31:13
Speaker 1: kind hearted people and do not make a good Bachelor like,
31:17
Speaker 1: just because you don't handle the process that well doesn't
31:19
Speaker 1: mean that you're not a great person. You're just not
31:21
Speaker 1: a great bachelor. Let's not hate. I don't think anybody
31:23
Speaker 1: out there hates Peter. I think a lot of people
31:26
Speaker 1: are upset with this season. I don't think they're going, oh,
31:29
Speaker 1: Peter is awful, and I've never heard that people are
31:32
Speaker 1: saying Peter isn't what we're hoping for. Maybe um, but
31:37
Speaker 1: we don't. We and we just don't love this season
31:39
Speaker 1: because it's hard to root for anybody, and it's a
31:41
Speaker 1: little bit of a disappointment because we expected big things
31:43
Speaker 1: from him. Like I think expectations were so high for
31:46
Speaker 1: Peter that I felt like he was set up to fail.
31:51
Speaker 1: So many people are just saying he should have just
31:53
Speaker 1: been from handed with Hannaby from the start. I mean,
31:55
Speaker 1: at this point, I'm not shocked if that still happens,
31:59
Speaker 1: and I but that's a whole another conversation. Hey, So
32:02
Speaker 1: we get to the Rose ceremony. Long story short, Kelsey
32:07
Speaker 1: goes home, Victoria f stays, Madison stays, Hannah Ann stays, Ashley.
32:14
Speaker 1: I will let you have your moment here because I
32:18
Speaker 1: think you, along with a lot of other people at
32:21
Speaker 1: that moment, we're yelling at the screen. So I knew
32:25
Speaker 1: that once he I mean I knew in my soul,
32:27
Speaker 1: not like as a fact, that when he brought Victoria
32:31
Speaker 1: f to that Rose ceremony, she was going to stay.
32:34
Speaker 1: So I immediately in my head eliminated Kelsey because if
32:38
Speaker 1: he was going to eliminate Victoria, he would have just
32:40
Speaker 1: done it in Virginia Beach. So I was not shocked
32:45
Speaker 1: come the Rose ceremony were, but I also was shocked,
32:48
Speaker 1: like I was just shocked that it actually happened. And
32:50
Speaker 1: I just can't believe that he led a girl through
32:56
Speaker 1: after those allegations were presented, and he didn't dig to
33:00
Speaker 1: find out the truth about them. That is what's mind
33:03
Speaker 1: boggling to me, is that for some reason he doesn't
33:07
Speaker 1: even want to know if it was true, or he
33:09
Speaker 1: wants to ignore it for as long as he possibly can.
33:12
Speaker 1: I think a lot of viewers watched this week's episode
33:15
Speaker 1: with frustration at the end. I think they were frustrated.
33:18
Speaker 1: I think they felt like there's a lot of like
33:20
Speaker 1: anger and just confusion. I think a lot of people
33:22
Speaker 1: are on the edge of their seat for next week,
33:24
Speaker 1: not because they're looking forward to it, but because they
33:27
Speaker 1: just want to see some type of conclusion. And I
33:30
Speaker 1: also think Batchelor nation out there is really wanting some
33:33
Speaker 1: type of beauty from the season, and there's been very
33:35
Speaker 1: few beautiful moments, very few moments to celebrate. But what
33:39
Speaker 1: a cliffhanger between Victoria getting through, which is just like
33:43
Speaker 1: a cliffhanger, and it's in itself because it's just so
33:46
Speaker 1: mind boggling, and then with Madison pulling Peter aside, I
33:51
Speaker 1: can't wait to see how that conversation goes. I was like, Ben,
33:54
Speaker 1: we gotta get the screener right now. I can't wait
33:56
Speaker 1: another week. I cannot wait another week. I think this.
34:01
Speaker 1: I'm glad Madison did it. Then I was sitting there
34:03
Speaker 1: and I was trying to think about do I like
34:05
Speaker 1: this decision by her to pull him Now? I think
34:07
Speaker 1: it was a good decision. I think it gives him
34:09
Speaker 1: some time to think about it. It gives her some
34:11
Speaker 1: time to think about it about long flight to Australia.
34:14
Speaker 1: It gets it off her chest, it gets it out there,
34:17
Speaker 1: you know what, I hope and the one thing we
34:20
Speaker 1: have to give. I don't know if we've seen a
34:21
Speaker 1: bachelor console and work through really difficult conversations as well
34:28
Speaker 1: as Peter has just by keeping his temper down, I
34:30
Speaker 1: think he's done a great job that. I don't think
34:32
Speaker 1: he asked a lot of questions in return, but I
34:34
Speaker 1: think he keeps it very even Keel and I believe
34:36
Speaker 1: he is. This is the thing. Peter might be the
34:39
Speaker 1: most approachable bachelor we've ever seen, and so like I.
34:45
Speaker 1: I bet Madison feels comfortable, which is so important relationships
34:49
Speaker 1: to go up to Peter at any moment and say, Peter,
34:51
Speaker 1: this is on my mind, this is hurting me, this
34:54
Speaker 1: is something I need to get off my chest. Were
34:56
Speaker 1: you talk to me about it? And I bet Peter
34:57
Speaker 1: is happy to talk about it. I think he looked
35:00
Speaker 1: we'll look at Madison go I'm so glad you told me.
35:03
Speaker 1: But all right, we don't know yet, Ladies and gentlemen.
35:07
Speaker 1: This has been a season of up and downs. It
35:09
Speaker 1: has been a controversial season. It has been a season
35:11
Speaker 1: that very few people are celebrating, but a lot of
35:13
Speaker 1: people are watching. I'm hoping for beauty in the following weeks, Ashley.
35:18
Speaker 1: As we've done every week, we've graded Peter after this
35:24
Speaker 1: week in your final thoughts in the episode. What's your
35:28
Speaker 1: grade with Peter and what's your final thoughts on this episode?
35:32
Speaker 1: For this episode, I think that Peter gets a D. There, Okay,
35:38
Speaker 1: what's the other one final thoughts in the episode? My
35:40
Speaker 1: final thoughts in the episode about the teaser? I need
35:42
Speaker 1: to know we need to talk about the teaser because
35:44
Speaker 1: I think Victoria f comes through as a villain because
35:49
Speaker 1: I think she's like Madison is telling him that he's
35:54
Speaker 1: not allowed to sleep with other girls, and she gets
35:57
Speaker 1: really sassy about that. Also very interesting are the teasers.
36:00
Speaker 1: It shows that these three final girls are living together
36:03
Speaker 1: in the same suite. Normally, once you do you get
36:08
Speaker 1: top four, you're separated completely throughout the entire process except
36:12
Speaker 1: at Rose ceremonies. So I think to enhance the drama
36:15
Speaker 1: and any tension between Madison and Victoria, they've put all
36:19
Speaker 1: the girls together in the one suite. It's an interesting episode.
36:23
Speaker 1: It's gonna be wild. You have the three women living together. Ashley,
36:28
Speaker 1: You're wrong, very very little from the show. We'll be
36:33
Speaker 1: excited to watch the next episode. Let's cheer for some beauty,
36:36
Speaker 1: Let's cheer for some love. Let's cheer that all of
36:38
Speaker 1: these women in this process, Um glad that they did it.
36:43
Speaker 1: We've said it every year that at the end of
36:45
Speaker 1: all of this, all we ask is that the women
36:47
Speaker 1: look at this whole thing say at least I'm glad
36:49
Speaker 1: I did it, And right now it feels like a
36:52
Speaker 1: few of the women might not be glad they did it.
36:55
Speaker 1: Can't imagine Victoria f comes out of this pride And
37:00
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for Peter Uh. My grade on Peter would
37:04
Speaker 1: be low this week, but it's also just because I
37:07
Speaker 1: feel like he needs to ask more questions. But my
37:09
Speaker 1: grade of him overall is high. I'm a Peter fan.
37:12
Speaker 1: I like the guy. I really want to see him
37:14
Speaker 1: find somebody from this, and if he doesn't from this,
37:16
Speaker 1: then I know he's gonna be just fine. On the
37:18
Speaker 1: other side, you should probably just go ahead and be now,
37:22
Speaker 1: let's root for Peter Uh. In the coming months Everybody
37:26
Speaker 1: Wild episode the Almost Famous podcast and of The Bachelor,
37:30
Speaker 1: we have breaking news that we need to discuss a
37:36
Speaker 1: difficult topic to talk about. Friends of this podcast, friends
37:39
Speaker 1: of ours. We've attended the weddings UM, They've attended Ashley's wedding. UM.
37:46
Speaker 1: Crystal and Chris have announced publicly a split. Actually, what
37:52
Speaker 1: do we know about it? So they're calling it a separation.
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Speaker 1: They both need time to develop, you know, their own
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Speaker 1: selves more. We don't really have much information. I saw
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Speaker 1: Crystal last week. I'm gonna be honest, I knew that
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Speaker 1: there were rumors flying, but I truly did not know
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Speaker 1: how to approach the situation, the topic when it was
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Speaker 1: out of live podcast and it just wasn't very private,
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Speaker 1: and we reached out. We haven't heard anything from them yet,
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Speaker 1: and it's just really it's really sad, but I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: keep hope and thinking that it is a separation. They
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Speaker 1: have not announced a divorce, and if anyone can come
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Speaker 1: back together, these two wild people can do it, because
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Speaker 1: you know, they've even gone through situations like this before
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Speaker 1: last December they kind of broke up or they were
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Speaker 1: really on the rocks and they made a decision to
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Speaker 1: stay together. And well, now a year later, it seems
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Speaker 1: like they're not making the decision to stay together. But
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Speaker 1: they're also not filing for divorce papers. So I wouldn't
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Speaker 1: be surprised to see in a couple of months these
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Speaker 1: two rekindle things. There isn't a lot of information out
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Speaker 1: there yet, but The statement reads this from Crystal and Chris.
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Speaker 1: It hurts announced that at this moment, we have mutually
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Speaker 1: decided to separate. They send in a statement to Bachelor
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Speaker 1: Nation dot com. This is the official website of Bachelor
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Speaker 1: Show producers. Never did we imagine the scenario, but we've
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Speaker 1: come to a point where we both need to work
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Speaker 1: on ourselves. We are best friends that love and care
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Speaker 1: for each other so deeply. We've appreciated everyone's love and
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Speaker 1: support so far throughout our journey, and we just ask
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Speaker 1: that you please respect our privacy as we navigate through
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Speaker 1: this process. That's all we know at this point. We're
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Speaker 1: rooting for them. Um, they just recently got married in May.
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Speaker 1: Uh so it's a new relationship and we all know
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Speaker 1: that relationships aren't easy. And as Ashley can attest marriage, uh,
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Speaker 1: it's fun, it's it's enjoyable, but it is not easy.
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Speaker 1: All this time, not rainbows and butterflies and and and
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Speaker 1: so Hey, we're sending up our best wishes to Crystal
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Speaker 1: and Chris, and we hope to hear from one of
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Speaker 1: them soon on this podcast to give all of us
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Speaker 1: a little more info when they're ready. When they're ready, Hey,
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Speaker 1: Bachelor nation uh go to Bachelor live on stage dot Com.
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