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ONELEGUPALEX Media Welcomes Tom Joseph, Founder of America's Main Street Party - Powered By Podmatch - 5-5-26 · OneLegUpAlex Media

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  Speaker 1: Here's your host, Alex Garrett.
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  Speaker 2: And welcome inside to this edition of One leg Alex Media,
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  Speaker 2: Part three of the Conversation andre Districting and as promised,
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  Speaker 2: the Main Street Party. Yes, there is a party called
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  Speaker 2: the Main Street Party, and I want to get you
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  Speaker 2: to know them right now, especially on the heels of
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  Speaker 2: all the redistricting going on. How your district can benefit
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  Speaker 2: from being informed of aware of the Main Street Party.
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  Speaker 2: I want to bring on Tom Joseph, powered by Podmatch,
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  Speaker 2: who not only founded this party but also has a belief.
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  Speaker 3: In the moneyless Congress system. Yes, a moneyless Congress. Let's
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  Speaker 3: dive right in with Tom Joseph on the Main Street
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  Speaker 3: Party and more.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for having me on your show, Alex. I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate the opportunity to talk about my initiative.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, I love the initiative, a moneyless nominating
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  Speaker 4: system for Congress. There is so much money that go
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  Speaker 4: into all these campaigns, and I guess you've had some
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  Speaker 4: experience watching it, being maybe a victim of it. Tell
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  Speaker 4: us where this whole idea came up. You can't.
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  Speaker 1: Like a lot of things. It's by accident, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's not really setting about doing this I made a
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  Speaker 1: commitment to try to do something because things were so
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  Speaker 1: partisan during COVID. I mean, they haven't got any less partisanship,
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  Speaker 1: but I just decided to try to come up with
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  Speaker 1: a different way to nominate people for Congress. I was
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  Speaker 1: always fascinated by the idea that jerrymander districts were uncompetitive
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  Speaker 1: and how that could ever occur because I have a
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  Speaker 1: business background and marketing is like, what is going on
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  Speaker 1: here that the market doesn't correct itself? And I figured
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  Speaker 1: at some point there would be a market correction and
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  Speaker 1: I would work on that.
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  Speaker 4: So jerry mandering is very interesting because we just saw
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  Speaker 4: what happened in Virginia last week, and now Florida's got
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  Speaker 4: their own situation going on. I feel like people don't
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  Speaker 4: really know about jerry mandering or care about it until
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  Speaker 4: it so how big the districts were getting, right, That's
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  Speaker 4: where the real alertness and awareness of it started.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and that is it was something that
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  Speaker 1: only happened every ten years. I think now that that
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  Speaker 1: people think, number one, it's a rigging system in itself,
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  Speaker 1: and now that we're using it like as often as
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  Speaker 1: we can to kind of regain the system. I think
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  Speaker 1: just makes it more apparent how disturbing this is is
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  Speaker 1: a kind of insult on our democracy.
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  Speaker 4: So tell us more where you got into this, How
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  Speaker 4: you got into this whole game, Because getting into politics
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  Speaker 4: you got to know people, you got to have connections.
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  Speaker 4: So where do you stay in and how did you
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  Speaker 4: get into this whole Try to change the system if
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  Speaker 4: you will.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like to think that I'm in polity, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I'm a business person. I think the way
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  Speaker 1: to disrupt the system is to, you know, figure out
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  Speaker 1: a way around it. And I'm approaching it like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: an app in a portal, deployed within the current political
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  Speaker 1: committeese in a legal way can disrupt the system. We
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  Speaker 1: can figure out a fair way to nominate a person.
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  Speaker 1: And believe it or not, if you interject a fair
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  Speaker 1: contest into an unfair district, you're actually in produced in Canada,
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  Speaker 1: should win. You know.
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  Speaker 4: I bang the druma about this a lot because I
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  Speaker 4: see a lot of unopposed seats in my own district
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  Speaker 4: and there are so many elections that are unopposed. Could
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  Speaker 4: a moneyless system make these seats more competitive around the country?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and well, you're in New York City, right, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: so there's a I've make a distinction between what I
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  Speaker 1: would call naturally uncompetitive districts. It would be an unngerrymannered
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  Speaker 1: city or an unjerrymanered rural district where I think our
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  Speaker 1: system may not do very well. And then there're swing
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  Speaker 1: districts where they are naturally pushed towards the center because
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  Speaker 1: you have to fight for those votes. Gerrymandered districts who
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  Speaker 1: are places where people the parties that bury to opposition
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  Speaker 1: votes and our system uses issues positions on issues to
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  Speaker 1: at least create incentives for people who are in the
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  Speaker 1: opposition party to participate in the nominating contest, to elevate
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  Speaker 1: candidates at least for some of their issues. And that
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  Speaker 1: to me, when you put it on top of the
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  Speaker 1: fact that people in the parties really hate the other party,
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  Speaker 1: you know they would much rather like in a red
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  Speaker 1: district elevate an independent pink candidate than a Republican the
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  Speaker 1: vice versa. In the blue district, the Conservatives who have
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  Speaker 1: been gerrymandered into there and make voiceless or say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I want to push now a baby blue candidate that's
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  Speaker 1: not financially tied to the Democratic Party. When you do this,
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  Speaker 1: it creates opportunities for us to create two moneyless caucuses
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  Speaker 1: within Congress, you know, Pink and Baby, you know, really
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  Speaker 1: factions within the parties that are not beholden to party,
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  Speaker 1: which not be holding the party money.
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  Speaker 4: And what's them have been pink and purple because we
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  Speaker 4: hear the term purple a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, you know, I you know, the idea
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  Speaker 1: I think for a long time is that you come
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  Speaker 1: up with a third party that would be in the middle.
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  Speaker 1: But it's really hard, I think for people to say,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there are certain litmus tests that make people
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  Speaker 1: liberal or conservative. Our approach is really that let's not
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  Speaker 1: look at a third faction, let's look at create two
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  Speaker 1: more factions. One. That's because I think at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the day, conservatives want to vote for conservative Liberals
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  Speaker 1: want to vote for liberals, and that's what our country
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  Speaker 1: is about. So I think, you know, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: go into these districts that are deeply conservative liberal and say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: what how blue really are you? And I think there's
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  Speaker 1: so many issues that people do agree on that are
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  Speaker 1: more centric that would push this representation back towards reasonable
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  Speaker 1: and allow Congress to function. You know, you have to
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  Speaker 1: if you're so oppose the other party, it's just ramming
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  Speaker 1: your legislation through regardless of the other parties and not
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  Speaker 1: really coming up with the lasting reform. And that's that's
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  Speaker 1: why we see this pendule swing back every four to
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  Speaker 1: eight years.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I think a moneyless and I think, boy,
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  Speaker 4: these were threatening all the super packs and all the
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  Speaker 4: packs out there, and maybe that's what your plan is
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  Speaker 4: to disruptive in the pack system we got going on here.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting, you know, I in our time figuring
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  Speaker 1: out how to solve this problem because I thought that
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  Speaker 1: super PACs are evil and if I think for the
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  Speaker 1: most part, you know, we all want to return it,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, but for this to work, I really
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  Speaker 1: had to have prize money. So I came up with
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  Speaker 1: the concept for a super pac that serves a common good.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, super PACs generally support either candidates or causes,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I this super pac would support the will
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  Speaker 1: of the people. It says, if you follow the rules
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  Speaker 1: of the contest and you elevate a canadate and you
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  Speaker 1: choose it, the super pac would back that candidate in
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  Speaker 1: the general election, regardless of whatever they did. It's really like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to back the people's candidate, and this super
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  Speaker 1: pac does this equally across you know, ten districts five red,
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  Speaker 1: five blue, or twenty ten red, ten blue. Then it's
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  Speaker 1: a totally non partisan way. He used the super vigor.
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  Speaker 1: It's very unique to me. This is the big innovation
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  Speaker 1: of what we've done because allows, you know, some of you,
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  Speaker 1: I could just find one person with a lot of
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  Speaker 1: money and really do a lot of damage.
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  Speaker 4: I want to say this. You know, Carter was the
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  Speaker 4: peanut farmer that got elected president, and all these guys
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  Speaker 4: except for Trump, and even as they as the years
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  Speaker 4: got on, they all got funded. But there were some
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  Speaker 4: early on that you know, just had the will of
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  Speaker 4: the people vote them in compared the money. Where do
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  Speaker 4: we go go south with this? Like, how did we
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  Speaker 4: go from you know, the everyday person to hey, if
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  Speaker 4: you're a billionaire, you most likely will be elected or
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  Speaker 4: can get elected.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we have to be honest. The fact that you know,
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  Speaker 1: Trump had messaging that resonated, he messaging Amma, and he
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  Speaker 1: got people off the bench. And to me, that's our
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  Speaker 1: goal too, is to really figure out there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people who are not engaged. I feel like if
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  Speaker 1: we create a compelling competition, we can get people off
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  Speaker 1: the bench. And that's really you know the basis of
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  Speaker 1: demogra the whole thing about governments derive their power from
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  Speaker 1: the people ultimately, and you know sometimes it may take
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  Speaker 1: war or revolutions for that to happen. This is a
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  Speaker 1: peaceful way to create disruption. You know. The other way
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  Speaker 1: we involve blood. And you know, if we don't break
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  Speaker 1: the system soon the civil is going to happen. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: people are really really dissatisfied and the whole income inequality
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  Speaker 1: is just getting out of control. Now. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: do sports.
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  Speaker 4: So you wanted to make it an Olympic sized contest
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  Speaker 4: for Congress.
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  Speaker 1: What does that mean? Well, I think this is something
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  Speaker 1: that people can relate to that you can't buy your
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  Speaker 1: way onto the Olympic team. You can't just because you're
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  Speaker 1: on the Olympic team the last hand at time doesn't
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  Speaker 1: mean you're going to be on the next time. You
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  Speaker 1: got to earn your way on. And there's a process
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  Speaker 1: to get there that involves skill and talent that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: involve money. And the idea that like Olympic Organizing Committee,
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  Speaker 1: these officials you have thankless jobs where they you know, choose.
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  Speaker 1: They're not powerful. People that run political parties are very powerful.
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  Speaker 1: They're picking. They're saying, hey, we're going to get behind
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  Speaker 1: Alex because Alex is agreed to be beholden to me.
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  Speaker 1: You know that this is a system where that does
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  Speaker 1: not exist. And you know what I did was took
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  Speaker 1: it down to scratch and say, hey, how could you
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  Speaker 1: take a totally fair system and shoehorning and what we did?
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  Speaker 1: What we have and I've done that and that's the
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  Speaker 1: sacred you got to do. Something doesn't require any new
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  Speaker 1: laws because if you go to you know, any of
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  Speaker 1: these legislatures, the only thing that Republicans Democrats agree on
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  Speaker 1: is they like the system that makes it easy for
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  Speaker 1: them to keep their jobs.
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  Speaker 4: The swamp. And look, I know Trump was about the
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  Speaker 4: swamp more for the Democrats, but I think he was
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  Speaker 4: hitting home that both parties have swamp like features of them.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, look how many establishments on both sides are
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  Speaker 4: still there to this day.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the idea that they more or less say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: if I run for reelection, I'm pretty much went right
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  Speaker 1: because they've already Jerremy under the districts to the point
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  Speaker 1: where they know that the numbers favor one. I did
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  Speaker 1: this study where I looked at all the representatives were
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  Speaker 1: over seventy years of age and what their win margins were.
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  Speaker 1: And they're all in jerman where I mean by at
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  Speaker 1: least like sixty percent, sixty to eighty percent of the vote.
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  Speaker 1: And that's an ideal thing. That and the naturally uncompetitive
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  Speaker 1: to be like ninety percent. But they're bearing twenty to
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  Speaker 1: twenty five percent, thirty percent of the opposition vote loyally.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what the parties want to do. They want
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  Speaker 1: to they want to bury people's voice.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I got to ask you this because I feel
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  Speaker 4: like when I hear what you're proposing, it's almost read
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  Speaker 4: there with rank choice voting. I mean, is there a
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  Speaker 4: similarity here to fairness? I mean.
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  Speaker 1: The problem is that the one statement I would make
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  Speaker 1: you know, we can have open primaries, we could overturn
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  Speaker 1: citizen in genit and we got rank choice voting everywhere,
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  Speaker 1: the system is still grossly favorable to encumbass because the
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  Speaker 1: way the money works. So it's not the issue about
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  Speaker 1: ranked choice voting. In fact, what we want to do
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  Speaker 1: is we want to we use what's called approval voting
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  Speaker 1: to eliminate, to reduce a large feel down to a
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  Speaker 1: top twenty, then a top ten to top four. Approval
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  Speaker 1: voting is you're voting for all the people that you approve.
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  Speaker 1: So if there's eight alexes in the field, you can
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  Speaker 1: vote for all eight alexes. But when you get to
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  Speaker 1: top four, we want the public to take a closer look,
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  Speaker 1: and we're thinking about using ranked choice voting to determine
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  Speaker 1: the top two, not top one, and then have a
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  Speaker 1: final round debate and everybody make a final one vote
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  Speaker 1: so that the winner has more than fifty percent. So
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  Speaker 1: to me, this is the process, and it could be
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  Speaker 1: ranked choice, you know, to go from four to two,
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  Speaker 1: or there's other star voting, there's other methods.
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  Speaker 4: No, it's funny because I feel like you still have
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  Speaker 4: to go to the government to get this approved through
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  Speaker 4: the FEC.
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  Speaker 1: No. No, no. So if we wanted to participate in
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  Speaker 1: the primary, yes, but the primary sucks, you know. Our
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  Speaker 1: goal is to make the primary obsolete to create a
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  Speaker 1: way better primary. The primary is supposed to be like
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  Speaker 1: a qualifying round to get into the final right, and
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  Speaker 1: it's terrible, you know, and it's ranked the people of
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  Speaker 1: the money, and right now the media just goes say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: who's favoring this selection. Who's a bigger mountain their campaign bucket,
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  Speaker 1: that's the one a favorite because they know that advertising
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  Speaker 1: determines the winner. We're saying, you know, everybody starts off equally.
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  Speaker 1: There's actually a methodology that allows you to find the
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  Speaker 1: people you agree with and whittle the field down. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, just like you know, we got to learn
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  Speaker 1: the names of the British and Canadian curlers that were
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  Speaker 1: fighting with each other, stuff like that. You know, through
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  Speaker 1: the process of this competition will be compelling, the people
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  Speaker 1: will get their names known, and the winners will be known.
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  Speaker 1: So even without the big money in the general election,
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  Speaker 1: this is something that the people have chosen over weeks
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  Speaker 1: versus the incumbent that didn't do anything to earn their spot.
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  Speaker 4: All right, well, I'm talking with Joseph here, and I
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  Speaker 4: see you have a bunch of different things you've started up.
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  Speaker 4: You started Wilson's Fountain, you actually started the American Mainstream
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  Speaker 4: Party and Mainstream Party and also a bookminder. So to
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  Speaker 4: tell us the entrepreneurial spirit that goes into what your
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  Speaker 4: idea is, because obviously you know how to run businesses.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's sometimes you just stumble on what
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  Speaker 1: you're doing. I don't have an accounting background. I worked
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  Speaker 1: in factory automation. I was trying to help my dad
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  Speaker 1: out and with a bookkeeping problem. My sister had a
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  Speaker 1: college degree, you know, so I'll do it. I want
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  Speaker 1: to work there. And this is back in nineteen eighty four,
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  Speaker 1: the you know, when the Mac computer revolution was occurring.
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  Speaker 1: But I saw that, you know, people be working from home,
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  Speaker 1: and I had this idea and even though I didn't
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  Speaker 1: have an accounting background, I kind of saw the future
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  Speaker 1: and I committed to it, and it's now a very
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  Speaker 1: successful business. We're featured on Empowered by Meg Ryan. Last summer.
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  Speaker 1: We Pitsford top Workplace a number of times, one hundred employees,
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  Speaker 1: multiple cities. But that to me is like about thinking
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  Speaker 1: outside the box and coming in with innovation. The same
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  Speaker 1: kind of thing happened here. I was really not I
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  Speaker 1: don't have a political science degree. I didn't have one
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  Speaker 1: political science course in my college life. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: as anybody, the founders are just business people just looked
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  Speaker 1: at things and thought about fairness, and for me, I
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  Speaker 1: was there like this system's unfair. I'm going to put
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  Speaker 1: my mind to it. And I never actually expected to
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  Speaker 1: do anything. I never expected to have an impact, but
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  Speaker 1: I once I realized I discovered a loophole in that
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  Speaker 1: I could do something different. I've been almost insane about
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  Speaker 1: this science. I can't get it out of my mind
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  Speaker 1: because I really do think that this is the key
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  Speaker 1: to break the system.
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  Speaker 4: All right, Well, it's very curious and interesting that you've
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  Speaker 4: come up with this in the year two fifty because
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  Speaker 4: our founding fathers out of this great country two undred
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  Speaker 4: and fifty years ago. What a time to put out
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  Speaker 4: this message. Hey, hey, you want to honor the founding fathers,
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  Speaker 4: Let's get the political process back to what they wanted
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  Speaker 4: it to be, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so just point. We're not going to make
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  Speaker 1: it for the midterm, but I mean, I think all
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  Speaker 1: we can really do at this point. The app, you know,
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  Speaker 1: is in a beta version. You can go on the
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  Speaker 1: website main Street Party Dot or if you go to
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  Speaker 1: the page of brand New Way. We have the very
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  Speaker 1: first release out, so it's barely functional, but it's a
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  Speaker 1: way where you can actually go there's a quiz. The
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  Speaker 1: ideas that as a constituent. There's seven issues there. If
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  Speaker 1: you try to match on all seven issues, pretty difficult.
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  Speaker 1: But say, hey, these three or four issues very important
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  Speaker 1: to see how many it'll instantly eliminate down from one
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  Speaker 1: hundred candidates down to maybe twenty or thirty.
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  Speaker 4: And how would the candidate know they were nominated by
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  Speaker 4: your party?
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  Speaker 1: No, no, they have to enter. So there's a process
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  Speaker 1: that you know, we would come in and advance and
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  Speaker 1: tell the district, Hey, we're going to run this. We're
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  Speaker 1: really not looking for candidates. We're looking for districts. We
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  Speaker 1: want to find whether there's ten red, ten blue, twenty red,
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  Speaker 1: twenty blue. When we go into this, it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be equal, you know, nonpartisan. We're going to after the
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  Speaker 1: same number of red. We're put competition where they typically
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  Speaker 1: don't find it, but we'll be in their advance to
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  Speaker 1: let them know we're looking for candidates and we're looking
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  Speaker 1: for volunteers. Beyond the committee and in advance, the potential
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  Speaker 1: nominees will have to go in to the portal log
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  Speaker 1: their campaign in submit any kind of information that they
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  Speaker 1: would ultimately be responsible for submitting it should they win.
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  Speaker 1: Like you know, we don't want to wait till they
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  Speaker 1: win to find out that they don't want to submit
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  Speaker 1: their tax records or whatever, you know, So all those
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  Speaker 1: disclosures have to be made upfront. So this is not
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, doesn't come without conditions, but they would know
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: and all this would be the key is that there's
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: gonna be seven issues that they have to weigh in
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: on that we're going to hold their feet to the fire.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: And now, instead of you voting for a Republican or Democrat,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: which these days it's really hard to know what that
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: is because halfway through the term they change their minds,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: they would have to put their positions down and bits
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: and bites, and we'd be selecting them based on those
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: key positions. And now, if you're somebody who's been jerrymander Dowd,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: say you're a liberal and a red district, at least
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: you can support candidates that support certain modern issues, so
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: you have a voice, You have power in those districts.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Right now, anybody who's in a jerrymandered district sitting the
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: opposition party basically is voices.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: All right. This is so this is so fascinating because
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: I feel like what would mean for a district to
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: be endorsed by mainstream party and why should they go
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: for the mainstream party line? I mean, is it is
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: it a lot? And can we call it a party line?
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Well, we don't represent any ideology. We represent a process
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: and you know what we think ultimately, when our folks
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: are in the ballot, this is the person who's the
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: true voice of the people that you know, ideaologies place on.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Populations are in a spectrum right, a bell curve, and
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: to me, this is really about the map behind. You know,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: I don't think the founders really understood the galaxy and
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: mathematics were present in there, but I think that what
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: James Wilson thought is that to get to that true voice,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: if it's fair, you'll be at the center of that
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: bell curve. And right now the representatives are, you know,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: left and right at that center point they're they're allowed
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: to be more extreme. And that's the math behind what
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: we're doing. If money distorts representation, the absence of it
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: should return that representative to the true center of the curve.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Is that some states now only have one party representing
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: them right here, there are a couple of states, like
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: in the New Orland area that only have Democrats representing
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: that used to be where both parties could represent.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, the term jerrymandering I believe originally in
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: state of Massachusetts. And you know Massachusetts the state that
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: has you know, if you look to the percentage of
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: conservative and liberals and how they vote versus the representatives
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: in the House, it's very distorted. Illinois same thing. You know,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: it's like fifty three forty seven, but it's fourteen and
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: four as far as their representation in the House. So
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: we're actually gonna come up with a measure where we
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: look at all the states and see how distorted they are.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: But you know, things were right, you'd have a party
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: representation that was somewhat similar. You know, any state can
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: gain it that way. There's only five states that have
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: House representations in that fifty percent. Sure, you know where
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: there like Pennsylvania's five and four, Michigan it's you know
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: something forty five. The other states it's you know, it's
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: way off. So what's the loophole?
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: I see in your bio there's a loophole that you've
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: kind of discovered. So what's that loophole?
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: The loophole is really that the idea of somebody running
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: for Congress and not spending money. So you know, the
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: whole this assumption is like if you run for an office,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: you got to spend money. But my you know, and
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: this is what I uh, you know, went back to
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: the election attorneys like, hey, you know, we can use technology.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I don't want to spend money, so we can create
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: a primary. That's the loophole. So if the candidates agree
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: not to spend money, which shouldn't be a hard argument.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: If you're we the people of the people, by the
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: people person you don't want to spend millions of dollars.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: You just want to do your thing and represent people.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: So to me, it should attract the right kind of
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: people that don't want to buy their way into office.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: That's the loophole, you know. Is that the thing that
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: we hate about what our selection process for Congress is
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: what's not allowed. They spend money, they're kicked out.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I've seen that before where parties actually choose
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: someone who's who has the money over someone who doesn't.
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: And that's not the way politics should work in my view.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Well, no, it works for them because they need the
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: money to buy the advertising, you know, And I get it.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: We have a system that creates this, you know, so
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: in some ways you can't necessarily blame the people who
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: are part of it because it eventually corrupts them. We
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: got to change the system.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: Ten years ago when the DNC left thousands of ballots
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: for Bernie Sanders uncounted, like just in a box. Is
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: that kind of a drove you to get to this
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: point or is there other stuff? Because you look at
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: that and you say, boy, how can we trust any
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: primary if they literally boxed up all these ropes for
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: Bernie Sanders.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Well, the idea that leadership is involved in the you know,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: it's interesting because I've been pitching this to like people
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: that are more traditional and they're like, well, you know,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: how does the party leaders. It's like, the party leaders
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: don't do anything, you know, and you have to totally it's
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: a totally reframe it. And I don't know that wasn't
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: really necessarily a motivating thing for me. I mean to me,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: it goes back to Ross Parot and that Ross Perot
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: identified that the problem is Congress and you know, we're
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: so lazy as a constituenting We just want to elect
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: a good president and we think that'll do it. But
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: the founders realize it really comes down to your local rep.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, the most powerful body is supposed to be
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: the House. So if we can figure out how to
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: make that work again, I think the whole system works.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: And anybody joined this party line either they're not running
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: for anything, or how does this work?
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Well, we're not again, we're not really technently, we're a
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: five twenty seven committee, but we don't require membership to participate,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: So anybody, it's a constituent that's a will tap into
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: the voter rules. We're working with organizations that understand election
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: security and doing all the back end security. Is one
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: of my pleasant surprise is that there's so much work
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: that's been done on secure mobile voting that we actually
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: can pick from three different platforms and have all been
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: pretty much exercised and implemented. And you're running today.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: Have you worked with open primaries, because I feel like
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: they're sort of along saying we're opening up the primaries
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: to independent voters. When you're faced with a Democratic or
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Republican primary, independence camp vote in either of them, and
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: I kind of feel it's very exclusive that it's excluding
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: a whole swad of people.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: You know, I totally support open primaries. I've talked to
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: the folks who work at owned primaries. The problem with
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: the whole concept of trying to get open primaries is
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: they got to convince state legislatures to do it. And
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: it's the only things that Republicans and Democrats agree on
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: is thwarting this. I mean, the people in Pennsylvania have
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: wanted open primaries for decades and we're not getting it.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: And now the strategy with open primaries is to make
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: this like a class action suit to the Supreme Court
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: that representing independent voters to Supreme Court like handling it
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: like they handled Brown versus Board of Education. The problem
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: is is we don't have a liberal Supreme Court. I mean,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: this is a big jamble that they're going to go
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: to this Supreme Court and think they're going to be fair.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I mean they have an
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: uphill battle. And the argument I have is that this
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: is an open primary and it's legal, and only just
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: do this.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: And you know, you label yourself an activist, but you're
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: not crazy like a lot of activists I see today.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: So no, it's true, there are a lot of people
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: that just start screaming everything. So how do you bring
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: this approach to activism in a more calm call it
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: an action way.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: I guess I would say, I think I'm Donner right
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: here in the last forty minutes, right, you know, I
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: one podcast of the time the I think if people
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: here a personal reason presenting, you know, business monel.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: How do you stay so rounded that you're not out
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: there with signs and screening and everybody like, how do
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: you change that? How do you stay calm like that?
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Well, I think the pressure on a traditional political party
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: is that they got to have candidates to win. And
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: my perspective is, this business person, you just got to
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: get to the next step of the plan. I mean,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: it took me decades to develop book minders. I have
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: faith that what I was doing was right. You know
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: that it is right for the employees, right for the customers,
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: ultimately be right for me. And I invested the time,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: just pounded on a message and was true to it.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: And I feel that that same approach can work here.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I don't need you know, I don't need to win elections.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I need to build a process they'll produce candidates that
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: will win elections.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: Well, it's very interesting. I love that you have the
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: background You're not just someone who isn't doing anything and complaining.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: You're actually doing something about it. And you have a background.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: I feel like there's somebody that just complain and not
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: take action. You know, well, you know.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: My background interesting enough, you know, is got into an
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: accounting system counting for dollars in a very secure way.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: And you know, you know, people care about trying to
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: trust me, try to hackets all the time, but you know,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: so counting dollars, counting goats.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: My main question to you is how do you protect
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: something like this from not outside influence, but those that
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: may want to shut it down? If you get people
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: actually signing up with you in the sense of how
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: do you steer clear of the pressures that may be
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: a Democrat or Republican party might might give you.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think we're taking a very interesting
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: strategy and we're attacking them in their underbelly. They were
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: going where they typically don't face competition, probably where they
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: don't have very strong people. You know, people have been
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: for decades in office, never face competition, and we're using
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: their system. I mean, they'd have to undo their current system.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: We're operating within their rules.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: So you know, could you say you're recruiting the silent
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: majority that knows their district sucks, but they don't want
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: to say anything because they're afraid of being outcastate or
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: whatever the term might, because they don't want to speak
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: out against their local.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they're so silent anymore. I mean,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of frustration for people that
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: had typically been you know, stompchily loyal the party. You
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: just feel so disappointed by things that happened on both sides.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: And you know, it's funny. I can't even tell which
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: side you're on. I want to say Democrat, but you
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: could be a robot. I can't tell. This is how
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: down the middle you seem to be.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: I tell people I'm not a conservative liberal and a
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Libra and I am I am.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: A liber too. How great is that? Let me ask
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: you this, Have districts come calling, especially with the Virginia election,
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: especially with as you say, Illinois, Even in New York
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: we've had some redistricting issues. Have people come calling.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Yet, Alex, we're in the emphasy of this. I've gotten
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: almost zero exposure. I mean, I just started getting on
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: podcasts in February. I you know, I think once we
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: hit some media, you know, we could get that. But
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I don't think we really have traction. I you know,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: have a change out Org petition. We don't have a thousand.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: We have nine hundred and ninety eight that's signestions on
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: our change. But you know the first thing we have
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: to do is get traction. It really helps to get
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: on podcasts. But to me, this is just starting and
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: you know, hopefully within an election cycle here we could
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: get in a momentum where there's people in a lot
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: of districts that want to see this happen. Is not
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: just to show the app demonstrating on the website, but
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: get it to the point where we could download, because
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: then we could get statistics on where is it being download,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: where do we interested who's engaging with it? So that
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: to me is the next step doesn't require a ton
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: of money, but at some point we got to be
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: to attract owners and attract our venture capitalis is a
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: super back downer, all right.
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: The other thing about all this is it could actually
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: bring us back to election integrity. You know, is that
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: on your mind as well? Is this part this whole
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: thing you're doing could help bring back election integrity absolutely.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I mean I one of my first jobs in factory
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: oimation was it Ford Motor Company where the data integrity
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: problem on electronics line, and the way to solve it
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: was really bring visibility and tell people where the problems
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: were what they were. I mean, you know, that's what
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: you do, You bring transparent see. So I think we
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: can do with technology. You know. One idea is to
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: have virtual polling locations. The polling location was small enough,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: like an apartment building or a great school district, where
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: you actually know the people in there, and you allow
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: the poll wakers to use technology to view that and say, hey, uh,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: you know, my neighbor's showing up there and they're dead,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: you know, or that person moves. There'd be a way to,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: you know, for people to use technology to make more
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: more confidence in the system.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: So you have the mail in ballot situation or do
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: you think that's just not helping the cause.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with mail in ballots, but
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I think what we're going to do, which is going
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: to basically make everybody's cell phone a ballot box by
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: first establishing that link between them and their idea and
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: then making sure when they vote that they're scanning their
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: face to make sure that the person holding the devices
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: the person that's been registered on. So there's no reason
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: we can't do that. We do that with if you're
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: going to gamble venmo, check your Amazon account. You know
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: that we do this every day. We're doing everything. So
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: to explain this to people of your generation that you
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: can't vote.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: That it's amazing sea all right, you say, it's your infancy.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: So how do we get people funding what you're doing
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: right now?
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, they can go to mainstreetparty dot org. We
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: have some cool merchandise, you know, if they want to
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: donate to the party, we definitely need that. I mean, ultimately,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: the thing to think about is that you know, right now,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: when the parties ask for your donation, they're turned that
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: into a terrible ad. We're going to take their donations
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: and create a software asset that would be a permanent
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: benefit of the country.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: So you know, and if district's come and say, hey,
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: we need to change things up, can you then I
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: don't know how it would evolve legally, but get the
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: courts involved to fix these registrict things. Is that that's
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: not really.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: We're doing a little different. I don't know if you're
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: familiar with the book Moneyball, but you know it's about statistics,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: and so we're looking for districts. If a district came.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: We're talking to elections as well.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Here the if a district came to us and the
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: numbers weren't right, we wouldn't go there. It's too competitive
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: or not committing, you know. So we feel like the
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: ideal district is in this range where the previous winner
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: had won by at least sixty six percent to somewhere
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: the low eighty percents. So it gets so to us.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of districts to fall into
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: this category. Because the parties of gerrymannered.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: The what that's funny saying, because I think they use
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: the twenty twenty four election stats to do these redistricts
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: in Virginia. Although they saw, all right, well here's where
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: Kamala be Trump, let's extend it to that area.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: I just I don't know.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Actually, the more they do that, the more benefits us
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: it makes the it creates the environment for disruption. More
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Like I said, naturally competitive districts and naturally I'm competitive,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: just as harder for us it's weird. This system is
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: going to do the best. You look at the map
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: behind it where it's been Jerry entered.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: All right, So pop Match gives me a list of questions.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: I really didn't. I just love talking to you naturally,
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: and I think we've had a great combo. But the
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: one question you wanted to talk about, which I really
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: am interested here is how will the contest wresident winners
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: fund their general election campaign? I love that question because
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: let's say you have a contest winner and they're in
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: the general is it now privatized still or is there more? No?
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: No, no, This is the idea of how The unique
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: thing about the way we're using super pack is that,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: you know, we want to attract either a ross Pero
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: type now upfront, it's more of saying that, hey, I'm
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: going to fund twenty winners, ten red, ten blue. You know,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: I'm going to put this up. You're gonna win, You're
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of money. And that to me
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: is a game changer because now you're in district whatever
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: and you're saying, wow, you know ross Pero is going
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: to fund my campaign if I win. That's going to
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: bring quality competition into the there and they know that
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: if they win, they don't have to go out and
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: frankly prostitute themselves to donors that may not even live
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: in their district. So the idea that you know, one person,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: maybe it's a coalition of wealthy people that are in
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: the center, say hey, we want to restore the voice.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Think about these people go down in history because they
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: would change, change, fundamentally change the way democracy works in
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: this country.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: Well, I have some ideas in my head. Who going
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: to connect you to? So I'm going to work on that.
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  Speaker 4: But for now, it was so awesome talking to Tom. Thanks
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  Speaker 4: to pop match for connecting us. And I want to
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  Speaker 4: have more combos, especially with the midterms. Maybe can be
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  Speaker 4: on an ear on the ground and saying, hey, this
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  Speaker 4: district was not repjended well in the midterms, we could
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  Speaker 4: we can go down that route come October November and.
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  Speaker 1: Let's when the app is a little bit further along.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like come back and we'll do down and we'll
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  Speaker 1: show people how they can how they can find represent
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  Speaker 1: the matter of values and hold them accountable.
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  Speaker 4: And at what election would you say was the one
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  Speaker 4: that said okay or what example set you to this course?
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  Speaker 4: I feel like there's going to be one turning point
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  Speaker 4: that set you down this road.
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  Speaker 1: Oh. Actually, it was the middle of the COVID, early
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  Speaker 1: part of the COVID where I was just afraid I
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  Speaker 1: was going to lose everything, and I just kind of
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  Speaker 1: when the PPP funding came up, is like, hey, if
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: I get this money, I would do something to paid for.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I had no idea what I want to do, and
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  Speaker 1: I almost thought, if i'd do it, this is a
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  Speaker 1: family effort, who's going to really change the system. But
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I said, I do this, and I did get the funding,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: and you know, I'm here as I survived health wise
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: and I survived my business, and I said, you know,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: I formed a committee. I just started working on this,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: and what I started off with was not this. I
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: mean it was kind of like a you know, just
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: another more idealistic third part. This was an accident.
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  Speaker 4: She've been on the Young Turks. I mean, that's pretty
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  Speaker 4: pretty reputable, even on different media outlets. So congratulations not
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  Speaker 4: getting this off the ground and running in the Yes,
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  Speaker 4: as the app gets built even more, come back to
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: one Lego Alex Media and we'll talk more.
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to come back, Alex. Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 4: On all right. That was Tom Joseph of the American
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  Speaker 4: Check them out.