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The most OBNOXIOUS fanbases in the SEC. Where does UGA rank? · Talking Dawgs

• Daniel: Alright Clinton, let's jump in. We're talking worst fan bases in the Southeastern Conference. where I mean where do you even start? First of all, let me get out ahead of this. Fans in the Southeastern Conference are worse than any other conference in the country. And the if Clint: Ye I was just gonna say, Daniel, hundred percent, hundred percent if you think that the top half of worst fan bases in America don't come from the SEC, like d you really think Indiana fan is objectionably a bad p they're fine. They're a fine person. Daniel: There. They're fine. And listen, it that should tell you it's a product of passion. Passion is what makes bad fans. And so it's not necessarily a negative thing. It's just negative it's positive energy that's being negatively applied, Clint. And so if anything, this is just our effort here at the Talking Dogs. This is our effort to try to bring some stabilization. So if you hear us Mention your school as being some of the worst fans in the in America. We're first of all, A, we're probably talking about you. If you're on another football programs, team specific podcast. Clint: Sem clarity. Yeah. Daniel: We're you're probably the guy we're talking about, first of all. And I'll say guy because that's who you are, and I could narrow down your age range. I could narrow down your age range for you if you wanted me to, and I could probably make some educated guesses about your profession. But we won't get into much of that. Clint: ⁓ it's it's a ten out of ten. We can w I could even predict what car you drive. Daniel: Yeah. We could get down to make and model and within a three to five year range on the year. Let's let's start with let's start with in your mind, Clint, who is the number one worst fan base in the SEC? And I think the answer's gonna shock some people. ⁓ but I don't I don't think it's wrong, so I'm gonna let you I'm gonna let you lead out. Clint: It it's going to shock people. Well, let me get out in front of this and tell you who it's not really quick. So f so Florida fan, you you're okay. You can breathe a sigh of relief that you didn't come in first in something yet again. Like just it's a warm blanket. It's a warm embrace that you don't finish first in something and you were nervous for a hot minute because you weren't gonna be able to do anything. You're like, I'm I don't know how to accept this. Don't worry, you're not number one. I'm gonna tell you what makes the worst fan bases in the SEC. Okay. Look, Alabama fan, I I don't like you. You're not the worst. And the reason why you're not the worst, you you've had success. Like, it's it's hard to come off the mountain from the greatest coach to not good. Daniel: Yeah. Not good. Not not being good. Winning no championships of any kind and qualifying for the 12 team college football playoff 50% of the years that you were able to. So if that's your standard. Clint: Mm. ⁓ no. ⁓ no. And having the be the most talented roster every year of that time. Daniel: If that's your standard, Alabama, you're doing great. Clint: Okay. but Alabama's had success, so their fan can talk a little bit. you have to have little success. You have to have low trophy count. You also have to, when you do find success, brag about lesser things that you did in life. Like when you brag, it's of the lower, moderately impressive category. Daniel: That's right. Yeah. Clint: You know, like the friend that makes that puts their IKEA furniture together and brags about it. You know? Or like or like talks about not going to Costco and getting a shopper to go to Costco for you and be like, my world changed when I had somebody else shop at Costco for me. You're like, Your your world changed? Like, okay, so moderate success, high praise. Daniel: This is a great this is a great criteria for what makes the worst fan. This is this is educational. Click. Clint: Is this. Secondly, your your knowledge of football has to be lesser than that of other schools. So not only are you chirping about modest achievements, when you do actually get called out and asked to participate in a conversation, what you'd what you'd leave and and just divulge all your dirty secrets is you don't know ball to save your life. Third criteria. You have to be moderately successful, but brag about things that that are moderately successful. Your football knowledge has to be very low. And when you chirp, you are the loudest, brashest, most idiotic sounding person at the bar. The person at the bar that nobody is chatting with, but you have to walk up to every other group and kind of weasel your way into the circle. Daniel: Yes. Clint: But no we are actively trying to keep like a Roman turtle shell, trying to keep you out of that circle. And you find your way in there like a little weasel. And it's number one, and it's Texas fan head and shoulders above everyone else in each one of those categories, Danny. Daniel: And it's funny because t typically, you know, it is the squeakiest wheel kind of syndrome. It's like, yeah, the fan bases are gonna be more obnoxious when the f when the programs are good. But see, as you pointed out, if a program is good, that kind of gives the fan base if they've had some success, again, Alabama fan, it's a emphasis on the past tense, had because your success is finished. It is over. But if a program has had some success, it's at least easier to stomach that obnoxious fan when they start chirping about things. But when you are dealing with a program like Texas, and this is what all of the Big Twelve knew when they said good riddance to Texas, go ahead and join the SEC. We will happily pay for the U Haul for you to leave town. This is what the Big Twelve knew, which is that Texas is the guy that thinks they're the best guy in the room when they are not even being invited to participate in the competition. Right? They They are there observing a hot dog eating contest. And they firmly believe that they could choke down more hot dogs. Than any than Joey the Joey Chestnuts up there on stage that are particip and they can't wait to tell all their friends that last week on a Thursday, just for kicks and giggles, this is how many hot dogs I ate, and I wasn't even really trying. That is the Texas fan. ⁓ d Texas has won Clint. Texas has won one Clint: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Daniel: Conference championship. in seventeen years. Clint: no. Clearly you miscounted. Clearly what well, the good you know, the good news is, Daniel, that it it the one championship was in fact in the SEC, which is the best conference in America, so that w ⁓ wa no. Daniel: No. Yep. No. No, in twenty twenty-three they beat Oklahoma State in the Big Twelve title game. And they won a Big Twelve title. ⁓ they have zero SEC championships, which is less than Georgia Tech. And they have won conference championship in the last seventeen years. I don't have to tell you they have zero national championships in the last twenty years, and I don't have to tell you that that makes a program truly irrelevant. Like, truly and honestly not remotely relevant to championship football. Period. Clint: He Yes Yes. No. No. Period. ⁓ you know what the Texas fan is like Steve Rogers, went into the chamber to get to get the the secret serum poured into their body. ⁓ and instead were given like VR goggles. And so when they came out, they thought they were Captain America, but they all see a five six, hundred and twenty-five pound scrawny dude swinging away. Daniel: Yeah. Uh-huh. Sure. Yeah. Clint: And they like everybody else like, Hey guys, just just go with it. Just like pretend he's Captain America. Daniel: Just It makes him feel better. Clint: That that's you, Texas fan. Like you are you think you are cap and you are not you are nowhere near because you think it's the secret sauce that did it for you. You let me tell you all the excuses that you don't have. Well we haven't been able to recruit really well. What ⁓ nope number one recruiting classes for the last twenty years. Like they riddled throughout the pro we Daniel: Whoops. Clint: We don't have a lot of funding. You started your own Longhorn network before anybody else did and got to print money. Print. We didn't we didn't get our pick of the litter when it came to coaches. No, you you did. You got to pick Tom Herman, Charlie Sharp. You you thought you had every right person. Texas. You're the problem, Texas. Like like Daniel: Yeah, you just made a bunch of really bad hires. Clint: As an entity, as an existing thing, you're your own demise, which is hard to admit. I I gotta admit. It's very sucky. It it is. Okay. Daniel: It is hard to admit. It is hard to admit. I I wanna move on to number two on the list, Clint, and you can tell me if I'm emotionally compromised. Because I live in Nashville. Clint: Well. Yeah we go. Daniel: And it and it ain't Vandy, friends. I'm not I'm not talking about the Vandy fan. Okay? Nate Bargetsi is not about to Yeah. Clint: No. Outside of a six outside of a sixty eight year old man who threatened children Daniel: That guy. Okay, that guy had it coming. That guy had it coming. Let the record show that Clinton and I did not throw a punch at an elderly gentleman at a Vanderbilt football game. That did not happen. Say what you will about us. Remember we were talking about Texas fan bragging about things that they have no business bragging about? We might be bragging about not hitting an elderly man in the face, but Clint: And he Daniel: But we didn't. ⁓ you wanna talk about a program, Clint, that hadn't won anything. Like hadn't won I'm talking about I'm talking about hadn't won anything in thirty years, Clint. Thirty years. I said one es one conference title in seventeen years for Texas. Well, it's been twenty-nine years since Tennessee has a conference title. Like yeah Clint: Eniten. Ooh, brother. Daniel: Tennessee hadn't won anything. But this fan base will not shut up about it. Like, it's starting to soften. The early Josh Heppel days, I think it was as bad as it's ever been. Because this program really thought they were back, y'all. They real Clint: Ask me ask me this question three years ago and probably would have had a different answer. Correct. Daniel: Tennessee's number one. Tennessee's number one, for sure. They really thought they were back, and they have been humbled by Josh Hipul's mediocre results. And I think, Clint, a recognition that if they were to fire Josh Hypole, which they will do after this season, ⁓ they won't get anybody better. They They will not upgrade at coach. Clint: They will. F Philip Fo Filmer got fired, okay? And started the steep decline of Tennessee since he was fired, up to and including a NASA alien putting on a helmet and playing football, and a coach looking for painted signs on teams on on players' shoes. Like Daniel: Okay. They they had a trash can that they used to hold up and dunk the football in. Clint: Not not a not no not a very cool looking portable basketball no a U line trash can. Daniel: Big T on it! The trash can! You can't make this stuff up. It's just a gray trash can. A U line gray trash can. $29.95. Ordered it right out of the catalog. Ordered it right out of the catalogue. Clint: Daniel and I have way too much knowledge of U line trash cast. Daniel: Hey listen, it's a heck of a product, Tennessee. I will give you that. It's very durable. ⁓ listen. Tennessee's not won anything, and Josh Heipel is the best thing that's happened to them in thirty years. Right? Since T. Higgins. Josh Heipel's the best thing that's happened to them. ⁓ but the program's going nowhere. And I think the fan base is starting to recognize that's why they've fallen from their post at number one. But I'm telling you, if you live in Tennessee, you just brace yourself every fall. Because you know what's coming. You know how obnoxious the fan base is. And I can't believe we have a list that has had two schools on it and we still have not talked about Florida. But I think that's the state of the SEC right now. And it's probably an indicator of how bad Florida is. Like just Clint: It is. Daniel: truly bad. Clint: That's that's what's really comes down to. You talked about Tennessee being humbled, and by the way, you remember, they were they were all chirps when they created and again this is not wait sometimes there are parody accounts out there and there's comedians that make some very funny stuff. They made a coffee table book talking about how great their season was for not winning playoff games. Daniel: Sure. Yeah. Not for not participating in the SEC championship game. Zero wins in the College Bowl playoff and zero participations in the SEC championship game. They made a coffee table book about being ranked number one in the country in week eight. One week. Till they came down to Athens. And it was a little too loud for them. It was just too loud. It was a little loud in the ins Nine false starts, I believe, in that game for Tennessee. Clint: For one week. Then what happened? It was so loud. Can't hear the snap count. ⁓ my ⁓ gosh, it was so good. Yeah, we haven't talked about Florida and it is the state of Florida. Tennessee's being humbled. ⁓ Tennessee, just prepare yourself. This season's not gonna be any better for y'all. Like, genuinely, it's not gonna be better. ⁓ Daniel: No No They might be starting a true freshman at quarterback, it could be bad. Clint: ⁓ Florida conversely has been bad for some time now. Dan Mullen was the best coach you've had in the last ten years. Daniel: By far. Clint: Yeah I said what I said. ⁓ it and every time you get it's it's like Texas talking about this is our year because we have the best roster. Florida will say this is our year and because we have a program builder. We got the you've been doing this for a long time, Florida fan. Daniel: By far, guys. Yeah. Clint: It's not getting better. You keep on doing the same crap. Nobody's coming to your school. And every single year, more stuff gets leaked out about how weird the coach is and how much he can't do anything. And the talent is is always there in Florida. You're gonna find some people that want to stay home in Florida, and Florida's got a lot of talent for high school ranking and coming back. And they got some money. And the swamp admittedly is a very tough place to play. Again, NAS, Texas. but it's wild to me that. Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. Clint: When we started this podcast over a decade ago, Daniel, talking dogs, over a decade. Right? Am I is my is my math mathing out there? Daniel: No, it's yeah, yes. Definitely it's right at a decade. Right at ten years. Clint: Yeah. It it was where the f where the the cocktail party was for you and I the most anxious game and the thing that you and I had a bunch of question marks about and we had back and forth consternation and a whole butt o i not not recently. Yeah. Daniel: Yeah, we had a bunch of Mark Ricked trauma. But see, we fixed that problem. We upgraded. See when we got rid of our coach, we actually were able to upgrade. See the thing that you haven't been able to do, fan base? Tennessee, Florida? Thing that you haven't been able to do, we did that. ⁓ come on, I have a clear number three. But before I give you my number three, 'cause I'll end I want to end there. Can I give you my honorable mention? I'm gonna give you my honorable Clint: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I I'll give an honorable mention, you give an honorable mention. Daniel: Alright. Mm my honorable mention is Old Miss. Now they've got a ways to go. And I don't think we're gonna hear much from ⁓ for the for the in the distant future because you wanna talk about coaching hires. ⁓ that it's a program that is going straight down the toilet. Straight to jail. You overcook fish, straight to jail. ⁓ you are old miss, straight to the toilet. I Clint: Long way to go. Straight to jail. Daniel: Old Miss Fan deserves an honorable mention on this list because the level of delusion that it takes to have the best coach that your program has ever seen, literally your only hope of being relevant on a national stage. Clint: Correct. Daniel: And in the conversation to make the college ball playoff. The only hope you have of that, to have him as your coach, to know exactly who he is, and then to get so mad at him, get your feelings so hurt when he acts exactly how he has always told you he was going to act. Clint: If somebody tells you who they are, believe them. Daniel: Believe ⁓ That's a long standing motto of Clinton Eye. Just believe them when they tell you who they are. Lane Kiffin's been telling people who he is his entire life. Ole Miss, you know he hadn't I just let the record show. He hadn't taken another job. Ole Miss gave him an ultimatum and basically forced him out the door. That's why Lane Kiffin maybe he would have gone to LSU anyway. Clint: Yep. Daniel: But that's why it went down the way it went down in the timeline that it went down in, because Ole Miss got so up on their high horse and thought they were something that they ran out the only hope that they ever would ever have of being relevant. Just because they got their feelings hurt. It's a sad state of affairs in Oxford. Clint: Yeah. Yes. ⁓ and an old Miss fan, you're saying to yourself, Well, we beat Georgia in the playoffs. Yeah. You did. You did. ⁓ Colt McCoy or not not Colt. What was that what was that other not Colt McCoy, but ⁓ what was that other guy? That that Texas were bad. Daniel: Sure did. You sure did. You sure did. W Texas is back. That guy? Texas fans will know, they're still here. Texas fans, tell us. That was a conference championship winning team that you had there probably. Clint: The and and the team that went on to win national championships being back and so great and so fantastic. ⁓ they went down from that and and still aren't back. Old miss, you may have beat Georgia one time, but like again, when we play each other, when we come to the grove, we will be ranked and you will not. Daniel: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep. Yep. Y you will not be ranked. Not to say it won't be a tough game for Georgia. It might be a close game. It will be your fourth loss of the season when we beat you. It that's at least. ⁓ that's my honorable mention, Clint. Who's your honorable mention? Clint: B I think it will be. ⁓ no. ⁓ no. ⁓ okay. My honorable mention it and this is look, it's hard. I I wanna say Missouri because you're not part of the South. Like just honorable mention, you haven't done anything wrong, but Daniel: Yikes. If this was most obnoxious coaches in the SEC, Eli Drankovich would have a place at the table. I will tell you that. I will tell you that. Clint: ⁓ if LSU might be high up on this list in a couple of years, like I can guarantee you one of the teams we just talked about will be us usurped by LSU. Daniel: If this were worst people, LSU would be number one on the list. Full stop. Clint: Full stop. Full full stop. Daniel: Debata Wall. I don't i if this were objectively worst people that's LSU number one. Yeah, for sure. Clint: Correct. Go on honorable mention worse fan bases, and it's kind of for the opposite reason. Arkansas, I know you're down on your luck. I get it, it's hard. Okay. Down real bad. You Arkansas, I don't think you're gonna win a single SEC game this year. Daniel: Yeah. Down bat. What else is new? Clint: Okay. Real, real bad. But have some pride about yourself. Like, I get it. It's hard, it sucks. You can't chirp a great deal, but you can buy in. And instead of playing the woe is me, kick me while I'm down. I guess we'll just go eat dirt. No one likes me. Don't do that. Don't do that to yourself. Like, don't be Florida fan, but also take a little bit of pride. You're in the SEC, you're a football program, you've had some bright spots, you've had some quarterbacks. You have some success, get excited a little bit, buy into it, and stop being the freaking glasses always empty. I know wins haven't been there. Support your team or or don't be a fan. That's my that's my problem with Arkansas fan. Support your team or don't be a fan. You can't be a fan that just sits there and boo hoos and has a brown paperback. Stop it. Daniel: How does a wall how does Arkansas not have more Walmart money? I don't understand it. We gotta do a whole thing on like a this like a Nike level the you know why Oregon's good, right? You know why Oregon's good, right? It's not Not because Oregon's good, it's because they got the Maybe just Let me just make a ring-a-ding over to ⁓ the Walton family. Just Just check in. ⁓ Clint: That's or you should be Oregon of the South. Has has somebody picked up the phone and just just called somebody? Daniel: I think the number three most obnoxious fan base in the SEC, Clint, is I think it's Georgia. And I don't think it's even I think they could be higher on the list. And I s and listen, you gotta you gotta own it, Georgia fans. Like just to that's this my biggest pet peeve is like We get it. We know who we are. We are obnoxious. And do you know what we do? Clint: We we likely should be. Daniel: We win. That's the thing. Is like we're obnoxious and then we beat you. Like that's what we do. We win championships. Right? Like we won the SEC championship last year. We won the SEC championship the year before that. Two years before that we won the national championship. The year before that we won the national championship again. That's what Kirby Smart and Georgia does. Georgia's been waiting to be the bully of the SEC. for forty years. And now we are. And we are obnoxious because we've earned it. Like if Tennessee ever got good, if Tennessee ever got good, you know how much they would run their mouth? And listen. That would be their prerogative to run their mouth. Georgia fans, we are obnoxious because we've earned that. Clint: Hundred percent. Hundred percent. Daniel: level of n so don't deny it. Don't run away from it. You own it because it's who we are. Clint: Yeah. Mm-mm. ⁓ it is who we are. And truth be told, ⁓ enjoy it while you can. Okay? Make hay while the sun is up. Alright. Daniel: Here we go. Here we go. This guy has to just absolutely freaking piss all over this podcast and everything that we love and hold dear. Hey, can I introduce you to my friend Clint, everybody? If you're new, ⁓ just wanna say welcome and hi and glad to have ya. Clint: ⁓ you're smiling and having a good time and laughing with friends and close family and do Cool, good for you. Can you take that somewhere else? Get off my lawn. I would like a dark hole by myself to sit in pain. ⁓ Daniel: Kirby Smart'll probably retire soon. So it's all over. We're all Clint: ⁓ Georgia is number three. It's not even close because we have had my think of all the things that I described in segment one. That's what Georgia fan was early on. It was the Mark Rick years. Again, Mark Rick, damn good dog. But we we were more like Texas fan than anything else at that point. Kirby Smart comes along. Daniel: Yeah, we won some conference championships, so that's not true. But ⁓ I ge I get what you're saying. The premise. The yeah. Clint: It i that's why it said ⁓ closer, closer, not exact. Yeah. Then Kirby Smart came around and all that angst and all that pride and all that tradition came roaring out in the absolute biggest mother on the block in Kirby Smart. And we said, I'm with him. The people when you have that friend, you know you know that friend when you go out and you're like, ⁓ he gonna take they're gonna take care of business for me. If I get in a bad way, they got my back. All of a sudden you talk a bigger game than you're used to. All of a sudden you start you start saying some things you normally wouldn't. Okay. ⁓ that's what Kirby Smart is for us. And and guys, I gals, it it makes sense. We we run our mouths a little bit. Daniel: Obnoxious fan base is what makes college football great. It's why college football games should be played on college football campuses. It's why we love the sport so much. It's why we love to talk about it. It's why we love to go to the games. It's why we are glad that you are here. drop a note in the comments. Let us know ⁓ what you think, what your thoughts are about all of this. There's a link in the description. Subscribe to our free newsletter. It comes out every week. If you're subscribed to the newsletter, you'll get our season preview that's got all of our predictions, all of our thoughts coming right in a PDF, right to your inbox. And so you Clint: Simple. Free. Mm. Mm. Daniel: So you get a newsletter every single week, and then you also get our free season preview that comes out. So make sure you're subscribed, ⁓ follow along, everything that we do, and ⁓ we'll see you guys next time. Clint: See ya.