Latest / Laura and Lauren Podcast / Mystic Spiral Podcast Episode 8: Folk Magick vs Mainstream Magick
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- 0:00[music]
- 0:11SPEAKER_00: welcome to the mystic spiral the podcast where earth-rooted magic animal wisdom
- 0:17SPEAKER_00: and ancient enchantment twist together like a serpent and a snail in
- 0:21SPEAKER_00: the moss join us as we explore the unseen the intuitive and
- 0:27SPEAKER_01: the beautifully strange each episode invites you deeper into the spiral into
- 0:34SPEAKER_01: the myth and into the wild magic that lives within and around all of us
- 0:41SPEAKER_00: hi i'm lauren crystal healer earth-rooted mystic and friend of snails
- 0:46SPEAKER_01: and mossy faith folk magic and i'm laura animal communicator serpent kinponowich
- 0:52SPEAKER_01: and solitary social practitioner
- 1:06SPEAKER_00: hey mythlings welcome back to the mystic spiral
- 1:10SPEAKER_00: today we're going to tiptoe into the woods and learn about the differences
- 1:14SPEAKER_00: between what we think of as mainstream witchcraft
- 1:17SPEAKER_00: and folk magic practices it's important to note that Lauren
- 1:21SPEAKER_01: and I are not folk magic experts we both incorporate some folk magic
- 1:26SPEAKER_01: but it's not our primary practice we just want to share some basic information
- 1:30SPEAKER_01: with you in case folk magic is what calls to you
- 1:33SPEAKER_01: if you have any questions you can certainly email us and we'll answer them to
- 1:37SPEAKER_01: the best of our ability
- 1:38SPEAKER_01: but we will also mention some other creators in this episode who know a bit more
- 1:41SPEAKER_01: than we do if you want to delve even further but like always
- 1:46SPEAKER_00: if questions should arise and you'd like to send them to us please do so
- 1:50SPEAKER_00: at mysticspiralpodcast at gmail.com and we'll answer them in our next q a episode
- 2:07SPEAKER_00: so what is folk magic well it's called folk magic because
- 2:12SPEAKER_00: the practice revolves around the people or the folk in your community think of
- 2:17SPEAKER_00: the stereotypical witch in the woods who villagers went to
- 2:21SPEAKER_00: for love potions healing ointments or even to ensure that their harvest would be
- 2:26SPEAKER_00: a great season those are folk witches
- 2:30SPEAKER_00: some of the folk magic practitioners draw from their local customs
- 2:34SPEAKER_00: and some folk practitioners draw on the culture of their ancestors and specialize
- 2:40SPEAKER_00: in specific countries folklore and customs or a bit of both for instance
- 2:46SPEAKER_01: if you're interested in italian folk magic you might use herbs that grow in italy
- 2:50SPEAKER_01: in your practice if you're interested in polish folk magic you might choose
- 2:54SPEAKER_01: from animals that are native there to call on to help you achieve your intentions
- 2:58SPEAKER_01: some traditions or practitioners might concentrate some
- 3:01SPEAKER_01: of their practices around elements or seasons and some might not think about that
- 3:04SPEAKER_00: at all yeah it's also very personal it can be traditions handed down from parents
- 3:10SPEAKER_00: and grandparents and you can also make substitutions for the symbols that feel right
- 3:16SPEAKER_00: to you especially if you can't find the things
- 3:18SPEAKER_00: that they may have used i remember one of
- 3:22SPEAKER_01: the things my mother did every new year was put dimes in an east-facing window so
- 3:26SPEAKER_01: for prosperity
- 3:27SPEAKER_01: she didn't know what she was doing was folk magic but it's one
- 3:30SPEAKER_01: of those witchy traditions passed down through the generations
- 3:34SPEAKER_00: with my family i feel like it was all the little things like
- 3:36SPEAKER_00: if my grandmother knocked over the salt shaker she would throw some salt
- 3:40SPEAKER_00: over her shoulder it's all the things that you don't think about that are kind
- 3:45SPEAKER_00: of folk magic and that's one of the most important things to remember
- 3:49SPEAKER_00: about folk magic it's not always flashy or pretty it's often just
- 3:52SPEAKER_00: the little things done with intention
- 3:54SPEAKER_00: that we've hardly ever even necessarily notice or associate
- 3:58SPEAKER_00: with magic not usually something you'd see on
- 4:01SPEAKER_01: an influencer's instagram page yeah folk magic is often a little bit more down
- 4:06SPEAKER_01: to earth and practical the kind of stuff people would have been doing
- 4:09SPEAKER_01: before they could order their candles and herbs on amazon you may want
- 4:13SPEAKER_01: to use specific items or tools for some purposes but most of
- 4:16SPEAKER_01: the time whatever you have handy is good yes it's super accessible
- 4:21SPEAKER_00: anyone can practice and it's a lot easier to learn now that we all have the internet
- 4:25SPEAKER_00: in our back pocket there are many people in the world who already have information
- 4:29SPEAKER_00: on their folk practices it's available online or in books
- 4:34SPEAKER_01: and you can customize this too you can borrow from multiple traditions
- 4:37SPEAKER_01: if it feels right just make sure you're not borrowing
- 4:40SPEAKER_01: from closed practices i definitely incorporate folk magic things from both my polish
- 4:44SPEAKER_01: and lithuanian heritage and i learned most of it from the internet and from books
- 4:49SPEAKER_01: a lot of it was lost to my family over the generations after moving to america
- 4:53SPEAKER_01: from eastern europe my parents don't even know the languages their parents
- 4:56SPEAKER_01: and grandparents spoke so obviously that was lost to me as well so much richness
- 5:00SPEAKER_01: and culture is lost to a lot of us but we can get some of it back if we want
- 5:04SPEAKER_00: the internet can be a wonderful tool so mainstream magic practices are broader
- 5:09SPEAKER_00: and there's more room for solitary work if that's more your jam it's definitely mine
- 5:15SPEAKER_00: folk magic is centered on community and smaller less flashy practices the kind
- 5:19SPEAKER_00: of day-to-day magic that meets your basic needs and traditional magic is a curveball
- 5:25SPEAKER_00: that i'm going to throw in here for a minute yeah some people use
- 5:28SPEAKER_00: the terms traditional and folk interchangeably but there is
- 5:33SPEAKER_00: a noticeable difference traditional magic is usually based on
- 5:36SPEAKER_00: the more historical influences of witchcraft that we think of
- 5:40SPEAKER_00: in europe yes those rituals and initiations into groups
- 5:44SPEAKER_01: folk magic isn't usually about that kind of ceremonial thing so if that appeals
- 5:48SPEAKER_01: to you traditional magic might more
- 5:50SPEAKER_00: for you folk magic is very centered around your community the people around you
- 5:55SPEAKER_00: but also the spirits you work with or the deities you call upon from the culture
- 6:00SPEAKER_00: that you focus on the folk magic often overlaps with anonism so flora
- 6:06SPEAKER_00: and fauna might be a part of your community too even rocks that look ordinary
- 6:10SPEAKER_00: to others and of course crystals
- 6:12SPEAKER_00: animism is also a piece that is often omitted from traditional magic
- 6:17SPEAKER_00: and here's laura with what animism is if you don't know animism is the belief
- 6:22SPEAKER_01: that places objects and creatures all possess a distinct spiritual essence
- 6:26SPEAKER_01: so plants animals rivers rocks etc you could also include practices
- 6:32SPEAKER_01: from both folk magic and traditional magic if that's what feels right to you
- 6:36SPEAKER_01: there aren't a lot of rules except for the ones about respecting others inside
- 6:40SPEAKER_01: and outside your community so don't steal
- 6:42SPEAKER_00: from closed practices yeah what she said how do you start in folk magic well
- 6:49SPEAKER_00: the best way to start practicing folk magic is to honestly just get right
- 6:53SPEAKER_01: into it yes definitely learn what you can from people you can trust try things out
- 6:59SPEAKER_01: and see what works what feels right and what doesn't the four creators i like
- 7:03SPEAKER_01: the most for folk magic information in no particular order
- 7:06SPEAKER_01: are the witch of wonderlust, not wanderlust.
- 7:09SPEAKER_01: Wanderlust on YouTube, Instagram, Patreon.
- 7:12SPEAKER_01: The chaotic Witch Aunt on YouTube and Instagram.
- 7:15SPEAKER_01: Polish Folk Witch on YouTube Instagram and Patreon
- 7:17SPEAKER_01: and that Glasgow Witch on Facebook, Instagram
- 7:20SPEAKER_01: YouTube and TikTok. They're all very open about their individual practice
- 7:24SPEAKER_01: for those who want to learn. Oh
- 7:26SPEAKER_00: and
- 7:28SPEAKER_00: you can get baba yaga's book of witchcraft
- 7:30SPEAKER_00: by madame pamita i believe you pronounced her last name
- 7:34SPEAKER_00: at groundings um we also have other books too like the miscellany fairy folk myths
- 7:40SPEAKER_00: and magic book by sandra kynes um the cunning folks book of cottage witchcraft
- 7:46SPEAKER_00: by denu forest and if you are a little bit crafty you can do the cottage
- 7:50SPEAKER_00: which is guide to magic by susan lemon it's 25 enchanting projects
- 7:55SPEAKER_00: to make your home more sacred um
- 7:58SPEAKER_00: but as always if you obviously can't purchase
- 8:01SPEAKER_00: from groundings that's okay please support your local witch stores
- 8:06SPEAKER_00: and always buy local whenever you can no judgment if you can't basically you want
- 8:12SPEAKER_01: to start by thinking about what you need or what your community needs when you have
- 8:16SPEAKER_01: that direction you can even start by lighting a candle and asking the spirits
- 8:19SPEAKER_01: to help you again it doesn't have to be flashy or snazzy and you don't have
- 8:23SPEAKER_01: to figure it out all by yourself
- 8:25SPEAKER_01: let your intuition guide you and let your ancestors help if
- 8:28SPEAKER_01: that feels right i already knew my heritage when i started and i already was halfway
- 8:32SPEAKER_01: on the animism train anyway so it felt very natural for me to look
- 8:36SPEAKER_01: into folk magic um in both the polish and the lithuanian areas and incorporate some
- 8:42SPEAKER_01: of the things that i found it may not be as easy for you
- 8:45SPEAKER_00: and that's okay too yeah don't stress about it just take what serves you
- 8:49SPEAKER_00: and your community and leave the rest
- 8:53SPEAKER_00: so whether you are practicing folk magic mainstream magic paganism wicca etc as long
- 9:02SPEAKER_00: as you are being true to yourself and not being a dick and you know stealing
- 9:07SPEAKER_00: from others then i mean just go
- 9:11SPEAKER_00: for it you can't really go wrong you can't really go wrong
- 9:26SPEAKER_01: before we leave today we're going to do something a little bit different
- 9:29SPEAKER_01: and pull two cards today we felt called to use the divine doors deck by andre
- 9:33SPEAKER_01: and gracia and the mushroom affirmations deck by nicola mcintosh as
- 9:38SPEAKER_01: a friendly reminder please take what resonates with you and simply leave
- 9:41SPEAKER_00: the rest all right first we're going to pull from divine doors
- 9:53SPEAKER_00: oh and
- 9:53SPEAKER_00: that one just flew right out
- 9:57SPEAKER_00: it is a picture of a dark reddish brown door with like
- 10:05SPEAKER_00: a really cool brick archway around it
- 10:07SPEAKER_00: and some turquoise windows I love those windows and some like black iron work on
- 10:13SPEAKER_00: the front cast iron little detailings and the card reads three eyed raven
- 10:21SPEAKER_00: a sunrise hits upon the dew
- 10:26SPEAKER_00: a messenger raven cause out with news prepare for the unexpected and then
- 10:35SPEAKER_00: for our second message of the day let's make sure all these cards are here
- 10:40SPEAKER_00: so
- 10:47SPEAKER_00: interesting how same shaped cards shuffle so differently
- 10:55SPEAKER_00: spirit of the deck
- 11:01SPEAKER_00: that's one of my favorite mushrooms it's a morel mushroom and
- 11:05SPEAKER_00: the message of morale is restore do what brings you joy the time is now
- 11:12SPEAKER_00: and only you know how to fill the void very cool i
- 11:20SPEAKER_00: love both
- 11:21SPEAKER_00: of those cards i love both of those cards i think they're great together honestly
- 11:26SPEAKER_00: i will make sure to post both these images of the cards
- 11:29SPEAKER_00: on our social media pages you can find us at mystic spiral podcast on instagram
- 11:37SPEAKER_01: and facebook and next wednesday on the mystic spiral we'll be exploring fairy magic
- 11:44SPEAKER_00: until then mythlings keep listening and keep your magic soft and steady bye for now