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Case Interview · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: The real people, real celebrity joined the Breakfast Morning. Everybody
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  Speaker 1: is DJ Envy angela ye, Charlemagne the guy. We are
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  Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in the building,
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  Speaker 1: Case Case walks in here incins ANGELI, thank you for
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  Speaker 1: last night. Thank you nice damn touch me? Tease me?
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  Speaker 1: Whoa Okay, don't be jealous, guys, what happened last night?
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  Speaker 1: He Actually I was at Case was performing. He has
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  Speaker 1: an album now right now thing, Okay, she's hosting What's
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  Speaker 1: Wrong with You? It's like your sixth studio album, right fifth? Okay, okay, okay.
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  Speaker 1: You know, do you feel like you even got to
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  Speaker 1: make new music? Because Tyres said his next album is
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  Speaker 1: gonna be his last album because he feels like his
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  Speaker 1: catalog is enough. That's what's up. I mean, if that's
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  Speaker 1: how you feel. I mean, I make music because I
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  Speaker 1: enjoy it. But I mean that I didn't hear that one.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's all right, he said, that's all right. Yeah. Now,
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  Speaker 1: you started off in a group that you've been solo
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  Speaker 1: ever since, right, would you ever consider doing something like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, trying to do a supergroup. Actually, it was
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  Speaker 1: something that I was supposed to do. Like that, but
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't gonna be like a TGT type of thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be like rock music. Oh really, Yeah, we
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  Speaker 1: just never got his neighbor, never able to get off
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  Speaker 1: the ground yet, but we was working on it a
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  Speaker 1: love rock, love rock. Was it people that we would
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  Speaker 1: know that you were planning to him? Yeah? It was
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  Speaker 1: me um Nokio from Drew Hill, and we was trying
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  Speaker 1: to figure out who else, but we couldn't find nobody
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  Speaker 1: that wasn't that was gonna fit, that was like minded.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, it was always something wrong with him, like
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  Speaker 1: some got to be wrong with got wrong with somebody
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  Speaker 1: and that's okay, but we it just it got a
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  Speaker 1: mesh on some level and then we could deal with
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  Speaker 1: the nonsense later. It never really meshed. So well, it's
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  Speaker 1: been so was this in this course of time? It's
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  Speaker 1: been five years since you about your last album? Was
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  Speaker 1: it during that time or before that? Man, We've been
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  Speaker 1: talking about this forever and doing it like we'd do
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  Speaker 1: a song here song man. So I mean it's been
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  Speaker 1: going on for the longest. Still a possibility maybe since
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  Speaker 1: you had some Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's definitely
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  Speaker 1: a possibility. You think they'll accept you as that dough
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  Speaker 1: because they know you as the R and B guy.
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  Speaker 1: Happily ever After, you know, touch Me Tease Me. You
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  Speaker 1: think they'll accept the rest. I mean they may or
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  Speaker 1: they may not, but it's something that that I enjoy
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  Speaker 1: and like, I mean, at least I can say I
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  Speaker 1: did it. You know what I'm saying. It'd be a
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  Speaker 1: challenge for me. But how much money you think you've
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  Speaker 1: made off touch Me Tease Me and Happily ever After? Man,
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  Speaker 1: those are two records that you probably could sustaining forever. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because everybody went, yeah, yeah, everybody want to hear that
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  Speaker 1: they wedding it, touched Me Tease Me. Yeah, they still
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  Speaker 1: play that like it just came out. I'm with that though.
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  Speaker 1: Now I just got to get it to the point
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  Speaker 1: where where I could stop because my catalog from Nose
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  Speaker 1: is enough. I gotta get to that. So you gotta
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  Speaker 1: get on your job. Was saying though, because it's like
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  Speaker 1: people wanted to hear the classics. You go out there,
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  Speaker 1: it's like new music may or may not be received well,
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  Speaker 1: but classics are always gonna be classics. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what's wrong? I got classics? But I'm still doing new music.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a defeatist mentality that that kind
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  Speaker 1: of sounds like giving up. Yeah, I can see why
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  Speaker 1: you would say that, Like, yeah, I'm like, make new
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  Speaker 1: music if that's what you know what I'm saying, that's
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  Speaker 1: what you enjoying. If you don't enjoy doing it anymore,
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  Speaker 1: then I can see. But the way you said, I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: my catalog is enough, Like that's I'm like, wow, peasants,
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  Speaker 1: That's that's how That's how I take it. He said.
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  Speaker 1: He goes still do group stuff though he said, here's
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  Speaker 1: no more solo albums. Here's my thing. Stevie Wonders catalog
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  Speaker 1: is enough, but he put out a new album a
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  Speaker 1: couple of years ago. True, because that's that's what you
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  Speaker 1: like to do it because you love it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think most people probably could do R and B music
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  Speaker 1: and be successful at it if they don't love it. Right,
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  Speaker 1: And he's been doing stuff forever, like I mean his catalog,
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  Speaker 1: I would say, his catalog is enough. But you've been
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  Speaker 1: in the game for twenty years almost, right, Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: a lot has changed from when you first came out
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  Speaker 1: until now, especially with social media and all of that. Stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad that you had a lot of drama back
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  Speaker 1: in the day. I had a lot of fun and
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  Speaker 1: you had a lot of fun, okay, And all I
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  Speaker 1: had to worry about was Wendy's cameras everywhere. I'm looking
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  Speaker 1: for the next shot. You actually shot yourself in the
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  Speaker 1: next one time? Right? Yeah? Yeah, that wasn't fun. How
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  Speaker 1: do you do that? That wasn't fun. That wasn't fun.
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  Speaker 1: I am be real. I was drunk and I was
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  Speaker 1: moving the gun and it had a hair trigger and
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  Speaker 1: it went off. Yeah, and it went in right there.
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  Speaker 1: It came out the back. You are so lucky, boy.
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  Speaker 1: That ain't luck. That's blessed. Now. I was in Atlanta,
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  Speaker 1: Now that's blessed. That ain't luck. Ain't no luck about that.
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  Speaker 1: How would you move? You holding the gun like this?
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  Speaker 1: Like what you? I'm like this And I picked it
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  Speaker 1: up and I'm sitting on the bed. I picked it
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  Speaker 1: up off the thing and it went off. Damn bang?
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  Speaker 1: What was you moving it to? Just to put it up?
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  Speaker 1: Some one y'all put it in the closet. Oh didn't
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  Speaker 1: Maybe the stir said the kids were around, but they
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  Speaker 1: were coming right and to make sure they didn't you know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so you were being safe still but kind of yeah
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  Speaker 1: yeah yeah, no, No, I had the best intentions. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how I saved out. I had the best
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  Speaker 1: intentions though. Who called the my girl at the time, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she was the people thought you tried to kill yourself.
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  Speaker 1: I heard one person. No, let me tell you the
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  Speaker 1: crazy point. Everybody thought, my girl shot me, like my
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  Speaker 1: moms flew down there. I'm like, mom, cool, yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 1: at the airport like everybody, and everybody's looking at her
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  Speaker 1: up and down like they never got past that. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: To make sure you can still sing? Because yeah, when
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  Speaker 1: I came to I got up and I went because
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know where it hit me. I looked in
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  Speaker 1: the mirror and I tried to sing because I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you mean immediately after you got shot. I mean what
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  Speaker 1: I mean when I when I first got up, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to see where it hit me. And then
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  Speaker 1: when I saw I'm like, oh hell no. So I
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  Speaker 1: tried to sing, like, not like full out like a song,
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  Speaker 1: but I just wanted to see could I talk but sing?
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  Speaker 1: And then I was like, cool, I could sing. I'm good. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm good because if I can't sing. We might have
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  Speaker 1: to finish that off. Now you're gonna hand your girl
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  Speaker 1: the gun and say, yeah, yeah, I don't ask you
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  Speaker 1: to do a lot, but I need you to do
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  Speaker 1: something for me right now. So it wasn't It wasn't
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  Speaker 1: like nowhere near being fatal. Then it could have been,
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  Speaker 1: but it missed everything. Yeah, they said like a couple
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  Speaker 1: of millimeters, and yeah it could have been other than
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  Speaker 1: that that you was pretty clean. I mean I never
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  Speaker 1: heard anything about you. I mean you had you had
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  Speaker 1: a nice little roster of chicks allegedly. Well, I see,
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  Speaker 1: that's why I'm saying I'm glad social media wasn't around.
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  Speaker 1: All I had to worry about was Wendy and me.
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  Speaker 1: And Wendy was cool. She would call me and be like, look,
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  Speaker 1: I got a stack of stuff about tracks facts because yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she would get the facts and she would given to me.
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  Speaker 1: I read them. She'd be like, I'm just telling you,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna blow you up Williams talking about Okay,
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  Speaker 1: why would she like you so much not to do that?
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  Speaker 1: I'm likable? Oh no, no, not like that. But then too,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I forgot, um, I was I went
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  Speaker 1: to I was in like third grade with Wendy's husband
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  Speaker 1: and when he proposed to her, I sang. He was like, Yo,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just start singing. I'm a proposed to her. So
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  Speaker 1: maybe that was why. I don't know. Yeah, I grew
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  Speaker 1: up in Brooklyn and then I moved to my under
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  Speaker 1: when I was a teenager, so maybe that was it. Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's your messing with her husband. Y'all was cool. You
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  Speaker 1: sang for them. She can't let you, yeah, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: with that. I was with that. I'm like that, She's like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just calling to let you know that you need
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  Speaker 1: to move a little different. And I mean they were
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  Speaker 1: straight snatching, yeah, because people were saying you was dead
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  Speaker 1: and Beyonce, I know you've denied that, but she was
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  Speaker 1: in the video. Happily anybody in the video they say
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  Speaker 1: you're dating. Did you ever notice that anybody or anybody
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  Speaker 1: you do a song with. I never knowed anytime, but
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  Speaker 1: anytime the girl is in the video, oh yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: go together like I guess you're supposed to have that
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  Speaker 1: type of chemistry though, that's the point of doing a video,
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  Speaker 1: so it looks real, like you know, yeah, but they
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  Speaker 1: just go all away with it. Did you pick her
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  Speaker 1: for it? Because they wanted? Um there was like different
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  Speaker 1: video chicks that was out of the time, and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, they was in too much stuff. I wanted
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  Speaker 1: somebody knew, So I was like, that's who I want
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  Speaker 1: the no no no no no videos. And a matter
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  Speaker 1: of fact, I was in his office. I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: right there, yeah, so yeah, yeah yeah. Did did you
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  Speaker 1: know that you could look at her until it? She's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be your superstar? Yeah? Man? If not she was.
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  Speaker 1: I knew she was gonna be in that video. I
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  Speaker 1: knew that. I knew that. I was still up Kevin
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  Speaker 1: Lao's death, like this is happening. He was like you sure, yes,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure. There was resistance. Yeah he wanted. Yeah, they wanted,
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  Speaker 1: Like who wanted? I don't even Nia Long would have
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  Speaker 1: been bad And then there was Yeah. Then people were saying,
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  Speaker 1: like foolishness. I'm like, nab, you couldn't lose either way
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  Speaker 1: with nia Long or Beyonce though, But at that time,
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  Speaker 1: I think nia Long was in something else and that's
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  Speaker 1: why I didn't want to do it. Okay, she was
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  Speaker 1: in somebody else's video, I think, and I didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to be that guy. So I'm like, I need to
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  Speaker 1: do something different. And Foxy Brownie said she did that
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  Speaker 1: feature for free because she was begging her up, touch me,
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  Speaker 1: tease me. Just throwed him against them all and see
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  Speaker 1: if it sticks. Now that I've never heard, but I
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  Speaker 1: would like to categorically did not that one? Which one
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  Speaker 1: that she did the feature for free? That I smaster? Okay? Category?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah she was young too, she was young. Yeah, she's
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  Speaker 1: a little under age. I don't know. Let me look
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  Speaker 1: at the legal age. I can say when you shoot
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  Speaker 1: the video at look, there was witnesses, there was Ratner
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  Speaker 1: shot that video. Yeah. What about Mary J. Blige? What
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  Speaker 1: about her? Say y'all dated? That was allegedly said that
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  Speaker 1: was straight you guys dated? And they said you said
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  Speaker 1: she was abusive towards you. I didn't say, she na,
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  Speaker 1: that's not what I said. That's not what I said.
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  Speaker 1: I felt bad. Nah, that wasn't what I said. Let
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  Speaker 1: me tell you, Let me tell you what happened. This
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  Speaker 1: is this is how people twist stuff up. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing an interview with this dude, right, and he was like, UM,
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  Speaker 1: I have to ask you about these rumors. So he
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  Speaker 1: was saying different stuff He's like, and what about the
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  Speaker 1: rumor that you used to beat up marry I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I ain't never beat up no girls. Like if anything
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  Speaker 1: I said got scars from her throwing stuff and hitting me,
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  Speaker 1: That's what I said. And they took that little thing
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  Speaker 1: and turned into the case said he was abuse. Really
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  Speaker 1: I mean, but that's not how they said it. Though.
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  Speaker 1: He was like, hey, Casey said he was battert it. No,
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  Speaker 1: it was it was in passing. I'm like, yo, what
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  Speaker 1: did you do it? Whatever was there? Whatever was there
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  Speaker 1: was mad at you for it? Though? Were you cheating
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  Speaker 1: or she didn't trust me? Hell? Yeah, no cheating? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: What could she be mad at you for? What would
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  Speaker 1: what would make a woman want to throw something at you?
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  Speaker 1: You write a song called Happily Ever After, don't live
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  Speaker 1: and then live up to that. We were talking about
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  Speaker 1: that last night. That video caused me so much headaches
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  Speaker 1: because then like, well you should be more romantic. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's supposed to want to marry. Yeah, but that was
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  Speaker 1: kind of over the top. So now even though I did,
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  Speaker 1: I did do that one time for somebody's birthday? Did
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  Speaker 1: the flowers? Never did it again? Though? You never did
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  Speaker 1: the Flowers again, you only see the girl flowers once.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying I did the flowers like happily. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's just too much. That is a lot of pressure.
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  Speaker 1: Always ask there's a lot of pressures, like yo, y'all
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  Speaker 1: have because y'all Sidney sexy songs. Y'all gotta live up
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  Speaker 1: to that. Man. Well, you don't got to, but they try,
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  Speaker 1: they try to make you. They put the pressure on.
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  Speaker 1: What's what's the most of a different Valentine's Day for
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  Speaker 1: a young lady where you felt like, boy, I am
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  Speaker 1: really case oh this one. This used to be my thing.
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  Speaker 1: He used to be like you sure you're doing it
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  Speaker 1: for the right reason. Yeah. Like, my girl was in La,
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: so I had her friends have her somewhere at a
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  Speaker 1: certain time. So she actually she was watching me on
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  Speaker 1: one or six in part because you know, the taped
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  Speaker 1: the day before. And then I walked in and walked
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: up behind her. So she started crying stuff because that's
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  Speaker 1: what girls do. Your daughter was live, yeah, ok, yeah,
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: but she had no idea I was coming to La.
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  Speaker 1: So then I came walked up behind her. So I
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  Speaker 1: was like, well, I'm about to go to the hotel.
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: So we got to the hotel, had like some champagne.
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  Speaker 1: It was like a diamond bracelet in the bathroom. It
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: was a diamond necklace under the pillow. It was Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was funny. That was a hell of a night.
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  Speaker 1: It was wifey, you married him now because everybody thought
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  Speaker 1: she shot me. That's not why. Now we broke it
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  Speaker 1: for other reasons. But that didn't help. That didn't help.
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: My mom is looking at her crazy ever since. Yeah. Now,
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: but sounds like faded pictures, missing you, not your friend?
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: Did you write all of those? Um? Joe wrote missing
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: you and faded pictures? Umho. Timmy Bob wrote not your friend?
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: But you wrote for other artists also, Yeah, and I
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: wrote I wrote almost all the songs that I've recorded.
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: Can you make a lot of money when those who
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: wrote your records like that? Yeah, I mean you can.
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  Speaker 1: You can. You can make it on shows and stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that. But most of the stuff that I've had
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  Speaker 1: him albums, I've written A co wrote, I mean co written, Wow,
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: that was that was different, co wrote, co written. Ain'tven
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: asleep yet? Um, you're an abused man. We understand me
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  Speaker 1: talking about get us all whooped you? Jojo been your
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: manager for what the whole time? Right? Na na um,
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: me and Jojo just got back together on that on
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: that type of thing about what like summertime. But we've
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: been like best friends for like twenty five years. Yeah,
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: you know all albums we did together. So I remember
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: reading in two thousand and eleven you were working on
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  Speaker 1: this album. So it took you quite some time to
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  Speaker 1: get it done. Are you smoking it here? No, that's
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: not smoke. He just pulled out it. Yeah, that would
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: have been a real rocket roll just like you know
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: Snoop did that? Is all right? And just by it
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  Speaker 1: up absolutely, that's but yeah, so what so it took
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  Speaker 1: you a long time to kind of get this done?
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  Speaker 1: How many songs did you do? And what was the delay? Um,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't really a delay. Actually there was um a
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  Speaker 1: different producer that we had that was and he did
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  Speaker 1: like was seven songs, So we wasted a whole bunch
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  Speaker 1: of time. Did he turn out to be a lady? So?
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: I bet yeah he was a lady operation Yeah? No, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: he might as well though he just fee yeah yeah,
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  Speaker 1: yeah he's a bitch. That's one way to say it.
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  Speaker 1: I prefer a lady, Okay, somebody people know, Yeah, just
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  Speaker 1: a guy. Nothing if you're a lady. So none did.
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  Speaker 1: He did like seven eight songs on the album, and
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: then once that fell out, I was like, I, well,
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  Speaker 1: I start over. So we went started over. The din't
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  Speaker 1: the paperwork wasn't right or he was making it's not
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  Speaker 1: even that good. It's not even that good. He tried
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: to leverage the songs to get a different situation that
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: had nothing to do with me resolved. He basically tried
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: to strong on me. He tried to call my bluff
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  Speaker 1: and I don't play that game. I'm like a game
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: the finger. Later, does he have any hit tons? Really? Yeah?
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: I did to figure out who? He said, what's one
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: of them? He said, what's one of them? But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so um we went through that and nah, he's not
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  Speaker 1: relevant anymore. Nah, I'm about the Google. I've no he
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: was googling the whole time, producer. But no, it was
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  Speaker 1: it was. It just took a while. We did about
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: maybe thirty songs something like that. Who do you listen to? Now?
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: Only thing I listen while right now I'm listening to Kendrick.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: But other than that, I listened Unless there's something like
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: that that comes out. I listened to all old music.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: I listened to all motown, Marvin Gay, Stevie, one of
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: the Michael Jackson, David Ruffin Temptations, all that stuff. That's like,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: none of the O G R and B cats respect
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: what's going on in R and B right now. I
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: respect it to an extent, but I think that it
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: needs to be balanced, Like we can't always be in
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: the club. Every song can't be about trying to take
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: these two strippers out the club to the because I mean,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: we all that's fine, but most of my life happens
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: outside the club, and I think it's other things that
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: we that we could sing about, it we could talk about,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: and that's that's my only thing with is that there
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: needs to be some balance, Like it can't be that
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: all the time. What do you what do you think
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: it is? You think that ladies aren't the same anymore? Na?
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: That could be a little bit of it. But what
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: I really think is that when hip hop and R
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: and B got together, that somewhere along the lines of
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: that R and B lusts identity and became more hip
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: hop than R and B. And that's yeah, yeah, hip
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: hop maintained this identity and but R and B didn't.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: It kind of merged into it and now it's some
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: mutant offspring. Now. I was reading an article about why
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: marriages don't work today anymore like they used to, and
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of what they said in the article was
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: a lot of it has to do with social media.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: We're distracted. We go to bed, we're not in bed alone.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: We're in bed with our phone, paying attention to other things,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: looking at other people that have like bodies that we
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: don't have, and you know, pop yeah to those ideas,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: and that's why a lot of people can't maintain marriages.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: And I had a conversation about that last night. Yeah.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: And it's sad too because a lot of the stuff
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: that you see on social media is fake. It's like
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: when you get member. People used to get like the
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Nissan and put like a Ferrari kid on it. They
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: put the Bentley kid on the filor that's what they
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: doing with their bodies. You're still a Nissan, but you
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: got the kid on it, and now you're on Instagram.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: But like we were talking about that yesterday, it's kind
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: of sad. But I want to go back to the
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: hip hop arm and be thinking when you was Was
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: that a conscious decision you would make when you would
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: do records with hip hop artists like, yo, let me
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: maintain my R and bs, I'm not gonna sing about
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: shooting tonight or whatever. You know what. My thing is
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: that I always try to make music from an honest place,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: and so that was never like if I'm sitting there
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: coming out with something that would never even cross my
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: mind this thing about that honestly. So that's why that's
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: why I never did. And I've had songs where people
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: was like, say, right, we had songs where it's like
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: some crazy tom foolery and I'm like, yeah, I'm not
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: saying that, like I'm not doing it. Like so if
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: people wrote for you up, yeah yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Yo, did you hear like nav, I'm not
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: saying that it's the craziest thing that you just threw
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: off the table and get that out of the studio. Oh,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: there's tons of them, um, the craziest Uh, I don't know,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: it's a ton of them. But it's like, uh, drip drop,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: drip drip drop. I've had worked way worse than that.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Drip drop kind of I don't love it, but I
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: like it. When I first thought, I was like ah,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: but then it's like, can't get that? And then you
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: walking around the crib like drop. Yeah, but no, it's
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of times you get like some nonsense and
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I don't even want to call it nonsense. But if
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I don't, it's just not me. So I don't do
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: stuff that's that's not me. People can tell when you're faking.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I grew up with Jehovah witness too. By the way,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Oh you know the pain and struggle. Did you really
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: like quit did Jehovah religion just to pursue us? Well?
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I was quitting anyway, or did you get this fellowship? Now?
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: I never got baptized my man like my thing? Yeah
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: see my thing was day was like as long as
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: you in this house, well you know you're not going
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: to be doing that because that's worldly. So I was like, well,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I'm out because I wasn't, couldn't. Here's the best part though,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: By the time touch me, tease me came out, none
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: of them getting win no more. And then they looking
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: at me at Christmas time like word birthdays. That's now
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I don't nobody. Yeah, yeah, I'm like word now everybody
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: marry Christmas? What made you want to leave you just
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: because it was it was just too much? Ye like
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: it's it's just personally to me, it's like a cult.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: That's my personal opinion. Like anything any organization that alienates
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: you from the world or even from your family, there's
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: something like not right about that to me anyway, Mama.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: That's his words, not mine. But he was thinking that
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: every time people come up here and we start talking
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: about being Jehovah witness, she always will send me a
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: watchtower in a way because she heard I misconstrued what
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: the religion was about. I ain't say none of that.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you the new thing though, did you
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: know because you used to go up field service Now absolutely,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: they'd be posted up at the airport now really never
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: seen that too recently, right when you're coming in. They
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: posted it right when you're coming in. I don't even
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: they don't even knock on my door on saturdayny Moore.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: They're not as committed that they used to be any
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: more now, sir. Who I grew up there was a
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Kingdom Hall right on my corner where they used to
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: come and I used to be like, come on, y'all,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: come here every single week. I see you every week.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: You're gonna answer this door one day? Yeah, I see
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: you and they're moving now. I've never heard about other
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: R and B artists hating on you too much. Did
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: you ever have any of those issues? Uh? Because I
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: remember we had um actually Charlotte Mane and Emmy and
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: skated a fight between Jagged before and talked about it up.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I never really had I never really had that problem. No.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I mean I heard somebody say something and then I
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: went and approach him about it, because you know, they
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: hadn't say little stuff. It'd be little young man, nah,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: but like it'd be like it would be little stuff
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: like when we're doing shows and stuff like I'm not
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: going on before and none, and then chalking not knowing
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: that you're talking to somebody that I went to high
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: school with. And then he calls me and he like, yo,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: your man was talking. So I'm like, yo, what's the problem. Nah?
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I was just saying what's up? Or even he'll walk
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: up see how me and you right here. He'll walk
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: past me and go to him be like, yo, your
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: man got a problem with me. He's like you just
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: walked away from him. But but I never really got
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: too much hate, not in my face anyway. Do you
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: plan on going on torning how to support this album? Yeah,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: we got a big toy working on this for the
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: sum time. By yourself, are going to be a na
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: not by myself. It's gonna be a thing though, the thing. Yeah,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a big thing. It's like a secret
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: right now to the press conference. Press conference. Yeah, we're
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: in the press conference. Yeah. Yeah, it's gonna be crazy.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: All right. Well. I did get a chance to see
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: case before him just recently, so it was a great show.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: It was good to hear the hits and a new
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: song sound great too. Thank you, thank you, No, I
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: know you just put out Timeless and then yeah you
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: all shook up for that, I guess and yeah yeah
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: yeah they was. Yeah, that was interested last night. Though
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: we had some technical issues. Yeah. He kept stopping and
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: being like, y'all gonna start that song over because we're
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: not doing it like that? Yo. It was yeah, it
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: was it was rough. Yo. I'm like, yo, we how
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: y'all can't start touching me? Hold on, start that again me? Yo.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: They tried five times to start touching me TV. How
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: hard did the start touching me. He was like, this
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: the biggest song. The song is big in New York
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: and y'all gonna messed that up every d It was
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: the band. It was the band, Oh messing up? Yeah, Nah,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: that's the problem is, Yeah, how much did the music
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: refle your actual life? Right now? It's like your new music. Uh,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: not a whole lot right this moment. But I mean
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: there's things that I've been through and things that I'm
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: sure I will go through again. But for the most part,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of cool right now. So and then I'd
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: probably start some drama when it's time, right enough album Yeah, yeah,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: just coming to crib. He was breathing, No real man,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: brothers that get abused never represented stories. Man, you know
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Mary made a lot of money off Herman,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: that's funny. Why can't you? And that could be the
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: album cover. Just a picture of a scar that's gangster.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: That's gangster. You have a picture of that's my name name.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I was named that actually. Now let me tell the
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: funny part is that I was named after somebody that
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: where he got it from I don't know, but I
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: had My godfather's name was Case. He had a son
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: named case and his son got killed when he was sixteen,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: and they asked my mom's could they name their first
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: sun Casey. And I hated my name growing up because
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: from the time I was two, I got teased by
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: my cousins. Didn't school, you're a bad case Case it is, y'all.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I was sick. I'm like, yo, to the point where
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: my mom said to me one day, she was like,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: remember you wanted to change her name to Craig. I'm like,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: I bet you, I bet you. Glad. Now I'm like, yeah,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I'm cool Nowad's name. Yeah, I'm glad. She didn't go
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: through it that last Craig. We knew it was Mac
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: and that didn't turn out. Yeah, before it just ya.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: You won't be around next year. The album's out right now.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I told the name of the album again. Heaven's Door.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Heaven's Door, and we appreciate you joining us, Thank you
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: for having me. Man. It's the Breakfast Club Gamani