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193 | Smackdown Halloween 2002 · The ExtraCooler Show

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Welcome to the Western show. You continue to talk like you're
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talking right now. You'll be history on this
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Nobody eats beef and Roni on a boat, man.
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Let's go. I've got Under your skin.
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I'm ready for this episode. Now, yeah, ladies and gentlemen,
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welcome to our annual spooky episode.
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Except this week's isn't that spooky?
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We've got another one stored for for before Halloween, so don't
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worry. But we're staying with the theme
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of spooky season in October. And we got a Halloween episode,
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our first of two. Welcome back to the Extra Cooler
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Not not not at the extra cooler show.
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Just come hang out. Come tell us what your favorite
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Halloween candy is. We got our candy bags here.
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We got the We'll put some shaving cream on your face if
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you pick like something disgusting like a Necco wafer or
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whatever those terrible candies are.
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Or a mounds. I like mounds.
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What's your problem get out like?
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Necco Wafers. That's my dad loves the Necco
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wafers. Yes.
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Sugar. Chalk.
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Time Traveler. Yeah, Tums, yeah, that's.
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What they are? Yeah, you're eating that Great
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Depression candy over there. Still wrapped in like wax paper,
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Yeah. I feel like we've definitely
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done AF marry kill for Halloween candy in the past and I got
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obliterated for my answers I'm pretty certain.
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Well, was anything like NECCO waivers?
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I'm gonna handicap here. There's no peanuts in this
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house, so there's that. I'll give you smarties at least.
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Like. Smart, another thing my dad
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loves. Smarties is my dad's favorite
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candy. Yeah, my dad too.
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Wow. And.
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The Smarties and anyway, but he's got to put them in the
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freezer. That's the that's the pro tip.
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Which one is going in the freezer?
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Milky Way. Oh yeah, any any chocolate
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cheese. But.
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Smarties in the freezer and. Any chocolate candy in the
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fridge rocks. Superb.
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Yeah, no. Doubt.
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Speaking of Halloween, it's on a Friday this year.
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Oh man, that's like the ideal setup, right?
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I'm, I'm so excited. Maybe it's because like my kids
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are peak age for Halloween right now, but I'm I am pumped.
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You guys are interested enough? Oh boy.
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Sorry. No, it's I was just going to, I
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was going to say real quick, I like the Friday Halloween better
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than the Saturday Halloween. That's maybe a Halloween.
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Oh yeah, I like that. Kids got to go to school, you
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know, get primed up. Yeah, you're not sitting around
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all day waiting like the the kids are already annoying enough
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on Halloween. I don't know about.
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Yours. Mine they're already driving me
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nuts to. Get out the door.
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It's like waiting for a kick off in NFL Sunday.
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But costumes. I am like the worst with
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costumes. I I don't even have a plan yet.
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I'm starting to get nervous because I got a couple of
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Halloween parties to go to. I'm sweating.
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I'm going to stupid spirit and buying some dumb thing out of a
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bag. All right, so let's get I, I I
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on the fly. I've got an idea for us.
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Let's play our game. Matt gave me an idea before when
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he said our FMK version. We played a game called Man Main
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Mid mantar, right? It's our version of F Marry
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kill. So for this I'm gonna we're
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gonna give each other three wrestling related costume ideas
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and you have to rank them in those tiers of Maine, Mid and
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Mantar. Oh, man, you have to dress as
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the wrestler for Halloween. Yes, that are suggested.
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What are you doing there, man? We're dusting this thing off.
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We haven't done this in a while. I love this.
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This is, oh, forgotten. You have to get off too.
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There's a drop. There's a drop.
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So the all right, so we'll each give give, we'll pick one person
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and you give them their costume ideas.
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So anybody want to go first? I'll go first, Kai.
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I could pick one of you guys. You could pick anybody that
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hasn't been picked. Maggle, Mikey work great.
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Let's go with Mikey because you did dress as a lot of wrestlers.
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I got to remember not pick one of those.
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I'm going to talk a little while I'm thinking in my head here.
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You did dress as Cane once. I remember right.
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Owen Hart. Oh my God, this guy was like a
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different wrestler every week. All right, I got I got 1.
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Here we go. Right, three.
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We're picking 3. Right.
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All right, all right, here we go.
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Because I think you do a good impersonation of this guy, so.
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Then I got to rank them. Yeah, you, well you do main card
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Mantor. Yeah, so the main is the one you
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want the most. Yeah, exactly.
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The main is the one you absolutely have no desire to
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dress up as. Oh.
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Boy. Yeah.
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All right, here we go. Ready.
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It's my first one. All right, Model.
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Rick Martel, the model version. Nice.
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Tie with the atomizer. I could pull the hair off.
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Yeah, can't. You could do the voice.
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Correct me if I'm wrong. Go for it.
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I am a model, yeah. I knew Mikey can do French
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Canadian all right, so that's one.
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All right #2 How about fan of the show Fred Ottman?
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But we're going with tugboat version was you got a little
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sailor hat, right? I could little striped shirt.
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OK, I'm picturing him in these. Costumes.
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Yeah, he's got to go. Like which I would probably have
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had to make for him. Because the sailor's striped
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shirt, is it too short? Is like my belly hanging out.
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I don't know, you got to pull like that Always Sunny Fat Max
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Season, you know, you got to put a little weight to cultivate.
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Some mass. Full, full tugboat for us and
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all right, one more. How about, how about, all right,
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this is random. How about Beaver cleavage?
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All right, those are your options.
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Man, he's. Got the little propeller right.
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He's got a little propeller on the side, Beanie.
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Wow, what do? You got who you mentoring?
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Yeah, who's? Thrown at mentoring.
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I think I'm tugboats mentor. Oh man, wow all.
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Right, I think that's a mistake, but I'll but go on agree.
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Mid is Beaver cleavage. All right.
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Oh, it's. Your and I'm I'm I'm manning the
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model. I like it.
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I like it, yes. I have a model in everything.
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The big I got the big button, I got the arrogance.
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And he's got the French Canadian accent.
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He could do it. I got the French Canadian
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accent. It's like Pepe Le Pew almost.
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I love, I love the. Concept of going as the model
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Rick Martel for Halloween because you know, like maybe two
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people will get it, but those people.
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Who are going to be? Upset.
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They're going to think you're a genius, yeah.
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Be like, eat your heart out, Andre.
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I can see. All right, I we're going to
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continue with this throughout the episode and and we're going
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to save the other 3. So Mike, that's.
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Bullshit man, you guys get to think about it.
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Mike, you, you can start. You can start thinking of your
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idea for who you're going to paint.
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Already rolling. He's gonna be 16, you know that.
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That I think that was pretty, pretty successful.
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I like you you threw out there. So to for this week's episode
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we're covering A Smackdown from October 31st, 2002 from the Van
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Andel Arena in Grand Rapids, MI. Oh boy.
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Smackdown starts off, kicks off with a bang, but before it
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starts off with his first vignette I do not remember.
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Me neither. I do.
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Do you think it's filler? So anyway, so it starts off with
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beautiful people. Marilyn Manson.
8:13
I don't remember them using that.
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Theme. But I think we've done an
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episode where it's where it's on there, to be honest.
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There's another Smackdown from this era.
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There's like an. Intro I kind of dig it, yeah.
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Before anything hits, there's an intro video like the the then
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now forever but just from 2002. I had 00 recollection of that
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one. That's the one I thought you
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were talking about because people and hearing Marilyn
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Manson was like injecting wrestling nostalgia into my
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veins. It was like pumped me up
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instantly. I was like all for it as soon as
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that theme came on. I like that song, so I remember
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that theme. I just don't remember it being
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used in 2002. It also definitely late, don't
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you think? Like that song came out in like.
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High school, yeah. 90s late 90s, definitely.
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Absolutely it. Was.
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On RAW, it was on RAW for forever, it felt like, or at
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least in my mind's eye. It was the theme for RAW.
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It really works as a wrestling. Show, I think all 100% so.
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So the episode starts off, mind you, this is airing on
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Halloween. It's got a Halloween party
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happening backstage. Farouk is there.
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He's dressed as a pimp. Eddie Guerrero is dressed as
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Zorro. He's with Chavo.
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Chavo is carrying like an empty bottle of tequila with him.
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Tejiri's there dressed up as a 70s guy.
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You've got all classic like random backstage jabronis.
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Then you got again, Tejiri's got like this Afro and disco
9:50
Alfredon. And in comes Shannon Moore into
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the picture. Yes, I had to look up who that
9:56
was because I don't give a rat's ass who that guy.
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Shannon Moore, Yeah, he ends up being Matt Hardy's little
10:01
assistant doing the Matitude stuff, which we'll see later in
10:04
this episode. Again, I know someone's going to
10:07
be like Shannon Moore was pretty good.
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I, I do not recall and I should preface this by reminding the
10:13
listeners that we were in college during this era.
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This was definitely, we were on the outs at this point.
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We were just maybe watching the big pay per views.
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Well, Smackdown's Friday night as well, yes.
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Oh. Yeah, there's zero chance I was
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watching Smackdown on Halloween Thursday.
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Either way. Thursday.
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OK, what's off? There was not a single night of
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the week that I was watching wrestling in in college.
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There is such a weird time suck with 2002 right now.
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Like I I went to Raw at the Garden in 2002.
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When Triple H comes back, that's January.
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And I went to Survivor Series 2002, which is the.
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First of the Nation. Chamber it's.
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On the road to that, yeah. Yeah, this is like one of the go
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homes and a couple weeks before that.
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But anyway, I have 0 recollection this time period
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though, like it's such a a mind F Like I just can't figure out
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where my brain was whether I was in or out and obviously not not
11:10
in in 2000. 10 right before Ruthless Aggression era.
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This is post WrestleMania 19, right?
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No 1818. That's the crazy part.
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It's after 18 and it's also. Oh yeah, you're right.
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My bad. It's also a few months after the
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first draft, I believe. So I think that's one of the
11:30
things that was throwing me off watching this episode and like
11:34
feeling like there's a significant amount of talent
11:36
missing from it. The the IT almost feels empty.
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The matches though are loaded, but the back 100% yeah, the
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match is loaded with like, I mean, Paul Famers, right?
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I mean, Oh yeah, exclusively. Maybe not exclusively.
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Yeah, on papers. Great matches, great talents.
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Oh yeah, paper there. The stacks WrestleMania matches
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on paper, yeah. I want to give you guys inkling
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on to what was happening on raw in case you were wondering.
12:02
Yeah, please. If you remember the Katy Vick
12:06
segment, oh wow, that that had just happened.
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OK. Really happy Halloween.
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That's that's. That's scary.
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I don't know how we haven't covered that yet.
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But I know that's all time. That's all Time Wrestle crap
12:19
right there. Instead we're yeah, instead
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we're covering this broke ass Halloween party.
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Yeah. No, this is.
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Like. This is like an infamous episode
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of Smackdown. Like, I mean, we'll get into the
12:28
reasons. Why?
12:28
But like, so this is something that people.
12:30
Celebrate. There is there are two very big
12:33
reasons why this episode is is famous, I think.
12:38
Is it the the. Giant Bear and the crash test
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dummy. Or is.
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It, but they're in the same. Room Stephanie's Cauldrons.
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Stephanie comes in in a very iconic which outfit which is
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like. Low hanging low.
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Hanging. I love how Nick is so
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uncomfortable even trying to describe this.
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Her. Her dress is not leaving
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anything to the imagination but you.
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Don't even. What I'm getting at is you don't
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even have to describe the dress because everybody knows.
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This. Version of you know, like you've
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definitely seen it and she comes back to this raucous party,
13:20
which is looks like the most pathetic thing like I do not
13:25
want my Halloween. Some like VFW or something.
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Yeah, Stephanie announces that the main event, it will be Brock
13:33
Lesnar facing off against who? A man who doesn't need a costume
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because he wears a mask all year round in like her.
13:40
Like cringy Stephanie McMahon voice that my wife hates so
13:44
much. Good luck that you bring that up
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because I feel the same exact way.
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It's so much so that I like had to pull some audio of Stephanie
13:53
because it always feels Stephanie in all right, 2002 era
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here. Like whenever she's on the
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microphone, it always feels so forced and I had to pull the
14:01
example. So here she is introducing the
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party ladies. And gentlemen.
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If I could have your please welcome to the Smack Down
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Halloween party. Yeah, the voice isn't ready for
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TV, you know. Mikey work great.
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I know if anyone would do it it would have been you.
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Did you Shazam the music in the background?
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Because. No, I was.
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It just clicked on my head though.
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Like there's like some I didn't realize corny pop music in the.
14:30
Back. It's weird, yeah.
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It almost sounds like like like together like the MTV movie of
14:38
like the the the boy band wannabes that was peak late 90s.
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Is it potentially dubbed since maybe there was something that
14:45
is more popular than? They probably wouldn't do that
14:47
then though, like just. Play it.
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I don't think so. It it's store brand, Buy, buy,
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buy. That's what it is.
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Store brand, buy, buy, buy yeah, yeah, it's.
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Like One Direction or some crap. It's in the $5 DVD bin like RIP
15:01
off of like some other movie. Five non sale for 299 yeah.
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Yeah. So we we we leave the backstage
15:08
area and we get our first match and it is.
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You know what though, while watching that, I really got in
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the Halloween spirit. I was like, OK, I'm ready for
15:16
this. Like something, you know, the
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party. I I love these kind of episodes
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from this era, let's say maybe a four year era going back where
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they do like the bachelor parties or the Halloween things
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in between the matches. Love it.
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I'm always here for it. This one we'll get to how good
15:33
it is. But but I like well, at the
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beginning I'm like, OK, I'm ready for this.
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This is great. It looks like they just,
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Stephanie probably was just like, oh, there's a, you know,
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the the spirit Halloween right next door.
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Everybody just go in there. Pick something out.
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What's credit? Card put it on our tab.
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Who's this giant bear that looks like the bear from The Shining?
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And then there's, you know. The crash.
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Test dummy, there's so many unidentified with a.
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Viking helmet on and like a tie dye shirt.
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What? What is going on?
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I know. I love that Rey Mysterio was not
16:10
in costume. Everybody else's.
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Something probably just water or Gatorade.
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But anyway, our first match is a it's the Smack Down tag team
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champion Chris Benoit. Kurt Angle is his partner and
16:23
they hold the the belts and they're face.
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He's facing off against Edge on paper, you're like, whoa, this
16:31
is going to be fantastic, right? It's just like, but it's I guess
16:37
it's not what I expected. Again, wasn't really I, I, it's
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this isn't memorable era for me. Smash goes 12 1/2 minutes.
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It felt really long at times, but I'm going to just jump right
16:51
to the ending. It's it's your typical lot of
16:55
back and forth, but Edge waits in the corner for the spear.
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Benoit sidesteps the spear and locks in the cross faced
17:02
Crippler. He doesn't get him to submit.
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Edge holds the referee in like a really weird spot to kind of
17:10
distract him as Kurt Angle pulls Benoit off of the hold.
17:14
Edge baseball slides Benoit into Angle on the floor and Edge goes
17:18
to the top rope, hits clothesline on Angle.
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Then you know he's battling the two of them.
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Benoit rolls Edge into the ring, Edge hits the spear, pins Benoit
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to win the match, and afterwards Angle is seen smirking, like
17:30
walking off, taunting Benoit. It's just I'll get there.
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I'm sure after we get to our our next match involving these two
17:39
guys, Angle and Benoit. But it's a really weird Angle
17:43
and it's not one that I'm a fan of in wrestling.
17:45
They're tick champs and feuding I guess.
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Yes. Yeah, I don't even like them.
17:50
I hate, you know, non tag team, specialist tag team errors like
17:54
this where like they're like here, there's two good guys,
17:57
pair them up. It's fine.
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It works for a little bit. But this match just also feels
18:01
like it's just, you know, treading water until the bigger
18:04
payoff, you know, which is fine, Like that's what these shows
18:08
are. But on paper, you get like,
18:10
whoa, you're like, here we go. And it's just, it's fine.
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Yeah, yeah, it doesn't. It just I don't know it is what
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it is. That's fine.
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Matt loved it. Buckle up, boys, buckle up.
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Loved it. 2002 WWE, specifically on the Smackdown side, is
18:30
something that people talk about being so vastly underrated.
18:34
The Blue brand. This is the reason this is the
18:38
epitome of a Smackdown 6 match, right?
18:41
Like that's what you mean. That's the lore of Smackdown at
18:44
this time. And maybe it has to do with, you
18:47
know, the names that were involved in 2002 before they
18:50
really, like skyrocketed to the tippy top of the industry.
18:53
But like all these guys are putting on this, this made me
18:58
feel like it was a WCW Cruiserweight match.
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Like that's the vibes that it had coming out the gates.
19:03
It was a work rate match. It was something that was hard
19:06
hitting. It would be exactly what you're
19:07
expecting out of an Edge versus Benoit match.
19:10
And here you are and you're getting it on a smack down for
19:14
free. And I just loved every second of
19:17
it. And yes, there were some quirky
19:18
pieces, the finish and Edge holding the ref in an awkward
19:21
way. And sure, the the tag team
19:24
champs feuding with one another is an interesting angle.
19:27
When I say interesting, I don't mean it that way.
19:29
I mean it like, it's it's not something that I would have
19:32
thought. Yeah, yeah, thank you.
19:33
I was trying to beat around the Bush, but I I thoroughly enjoyed
19:38
this. And then there's also the lore
19:40
of like Heyman being the one to talk about how important the
19:44
Smackdown 6 was and how this was like Nick said, it was right
19:48
after the the, the draft. And apparently Vince wanted
19:53
Jericho to move from Smackdown to Raw.
19:56
And Heyman was like, well, you got to give me something in
19:58
return. You got to make this a trade.
20:00
And he moved Eddie and Chris Benoit from Raw to Smackdown.
20:04
And everybody laughed at Heyman when he asked, when he asked for
20:07
those two. And then he just brought them up
20:09
to the top. It was, it was a really cool.
20:12
Rewatch for me, I loved it. Run down the the smack down 6
20:15
from me. Who are the?
20:17
So it is Angle, Eddie, Benoit, Edge, Ray and then Chavo is the
20:24
6th and those are the 6th like work, work rate dudes that come
20:28
in and because of Paul Heyman put them in charge of creative
20:33
and then he was out there and he built, you know, 5 1/2.
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True juggernauts in the in the industry and may not have been
20:41
that juggernaut, but he still is working in the business.
20:45
He still is now. With ACW triumph.
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Sure. All right.
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It's I just made artwork for the guy.
20:51
So I mean, he's, we put the rocket on his back and.
20:55
But he's. Also, yeah, legendary wrestling
20:57
families from. I mean like.
20:59
Absolute 100%. Yeah.
21:03
He's working in Hollywood for these, these whenever there's a
21:06
wrestling movie. Shows and movies, yeah.
21:08
Chavo Guerrero. He worked in Glow and.
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Well, like a consultant, you mean.
21:12
Like a a trainer essentially. A trainer for the actors and
21:15
actresses. Oh wow, that's awesome.
21:17
So he's another one that you're you're.
21:20
Selling me and changing my opinion a little bit, I guess I
21:24
just. We get another one of these
21:25
matches later. Yeah, yeah, they're, I think, I
21:28
think. Yeah, I feel like I should.
21:31
I'll I'll hold my opinion for the end and and my reasoning.
21:36
One thing that I will spin your car right around after I've
21:39
tried to sell you to come down my Rd. is I guarantee you Tony
21:43
Kahn loved 2002 Smackdown. That's the kind of feeling it
21:48
has of these great matches that may not have full consequence in
21:51
a storyline to the fullest extent, but it was awesome to
21:55
watch these two go at it. It reminds me a lot of like Curt
21:58
Day AEW that's. Fair see, I was going to say,
22:01
OK, so I'll get I'll go there right now.
22:03
It reminds me, I think watching this, it reminds me and makes me
22:07
feel a lot like current day wrestling where there's a lot of
22:13
lot of great wrestling that's happening, but the storylines
22:18
don't do anything for me. You know, like, and and I've
22:21
said this on our Discord channel recently, how the current state
22:24
of wrestling, you know, to each its own, but neither side is is
22:30
gripping me and neither side is pulling me in.
22:32
And that's how I kind of felt while I was watching this
22:34
episode of smack down. But I'll save my full review for
22:38
the end there. So all right, let's move
22:41
forward. We could have stayed in there
22:43
forever to talk. Yeah, we I really could have and
22:45
and we're we can go back there at the.
22:48
End. We'll get there.
22:49
I mean, there's too many more. Like you said, there's more of
22:51
these matches. Yeah, so after this match, we go
22:54
backstage once again and we get, for the first time ever, John
22:59
Cena rapping on WWETVI. May or may not be 100% correct
23:04
about this book. The research that I looked into
23:07
this basically like jumpstarts, the doctor of Thumb, thug
23:10
anomics. Cena's backstage dressed as
23:13
Vanilla Ice. He's rapping.
23:15
And it sounds pretty good. Like, especially for this guy
23:20
who's really raw at the time, you know?
23:23
Yeah, it's not the kind of thing that I I'm into.
23:26
But for a wrestler like back then too, like, I don't know.
23:31
He sounds like he knows what he's doing.
23:33
Again, not what I'm into, but. It it may be 30 seconds, but
23:37
I'll let the audience decide for themselves all.
23:40
Right. Stop.
23:41
Collaborate and listen. Ice is back with a new
23:44
proposition. Your position is that of a
23:46
failure. I'm a nailer to Jamie Noble's
23:49
trailer. And then I dare you to run
23:50
around and cause a scare. Give people the shakes to make
23:53
them change their underwear. I'm on top.
23:55
It's my fault that you're under there.
23:56
You want a bear? Have balls.
23:58
No Shameless back here fast. I got to go.
24:00
It's been a blast. Came out the locker room.
24:02
Stole Rey Mysterio's mask. Tried to get takers.
24:04
Cast. But it was plastered.
24:05
Aren't too tight beast. I got to go about the hot wires
24:08
body. Can we just talk about how
24:13
there's conveniently this like beat playing in the background?
24:17
Yeah, it. Was interesting.
24:20
But also like it's again, it sounds I, I don't know if Mike
24:23
said it on the episode or before we hit record.
24:25
He he definitely John Cena in 2002 and before must have
24:30
listened to quite a bit of Eminem 'cause it sounds.
24:32
Like he's doing his. Best impression of him?
24:35
I don't, I don't think it's like great.
24:37
I don't think it's bad though, for wrestling.
24:40
In terms of wrestling, especially, anything that we've
24:43
seen before 2002. I mean, he hasn't found his
24:46
voice yet, right? Like, that's what it is, right?
24:49
Like, it's not as like, aggressive.
24:52
No. There's a little bit Jamie Noble
24:54
trailer, you know, like. Save saving somebody's back
24:59
here, yeah. Tajiri talks to Tori Wilson and
25:03
says he's got a New Girl. Tajiri walks up to a girl at the
25:07
bar and it's none other than Mei Young and Moolah you.
25:11
Know where it's like. Going looks like Marilyn Monroe.
25:13
Yeah, just yes, yes and. I'm sure you knew where it's
25:16
going. Well, yeah, we could tell.
25:20
I know I'm happy to have bought the ticket to to, you know, I'll
25:24
take this ride, though. This is like, you know, it's
25:26
always good. Tajiri is.
25:28
Such a very funny. He's very funny.
25:30
Any situation, he does it. And what's May Young?
25:34
The Flintstones. He's Wilma.
25:35
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry.
25:37
Moolah. Moolah.
25:38
Moolah. I apologize.
25:39
Moolah. Moolah is yeah, yeah.
25:42
Flintstones, which, God, there's a lot of weird stuff going on.
25:47
You got Dawn Marie and Al Wilson arrive at the party and I'm
25:51
like. Again, I'm so out of that
25:52
wasn't. I I'm so out of touch with
25:57
wrestling in 2022, I'm like, who is Al Wilson?
26:02
Because they haven't shown Tori and so it's not registering in
26:05
my head. Who the hell is this old man
26:07
that Dawn Marie, who also looks like an old woman in my face,
26:12
like she's never done anything for me, which is a whole nother
26:16
story. It's a creature of Long Island,
26:18
I think, or. Isn't that her dad?
26:21
Dawn Marie is There's never been a better name for someone than
26:24
Dawn Marie. Like really, That's her perfect.
26:30
Dawn. Yeah, it's.
26:31
From ACW. Right.
26:33
I hope I get Jack Tony as a mentor question later.
26:38
So she she is. Yes, she is ECW, First off,
26:43
Mike, but second of all, she is from Broadway, New Jersey.
26:46
So Ding Ding, well done, well done.
26:51
Backstage, Benoit storms into a Halloween party looking for Kurt
26:54
Angle. Benoit storms out.
26:56
Not that's. Scary actually.
26:58
There's like a even like the crowd there is like, oh God,
27:01
this psycho's here. Like, yeah, especially knowing
27:03
what we know now. Yeah, I know.
27:05
My God, that's scary. Imagine Benoit shows up to your
27:07
party, like, angry. Like, oh boy.
27:10
He also shows. Yeah, he's a blithering idiot.
27:14
Like you got like five guys wearing masks right now.
27:17
You're not going to tell them to take off their masks?
27:19
I guess you really don't want to find.
27:23
Ghost face right in the face. Oh my God, it's awful.
27:27
It's ghost face, is that right? Yeah, scream when kids dress up
27:32
like that now. Like, what do you know?
27:34
What do you know about that? Yeah, what do?
27:35
You know about what? Do you know about Scream?
27:38
I think there's like 12 of them now, right?
27:41
7th is coming out I believe 7th. Is coming out.
27:44
More on the way. All right, so we've got another
27:49
backstage segment which features the Smackdown World Champion
27:53
Brock Lesnar, and he dismisses some guy in a Flintstone
27:57
costume, conveniently. Do you think him and Moolah
27:59
planned that together? That is such a bad back and
28:03
forth, it's so bad. Yeah, it's, it's awful.
28:06
So I don't even know who that guy is.
28:07
I think he's someone though. Yeah.
28:09
Oh yeah. Yeah, I don't think it's just
28:11
some hand. Brock is still workshopping his
28:14
microphone skills and it's not good.
28:17
This is his first year in the business.
28:19
Yeah. Yeah, he did.
28:20
You'd in 2002 and obviously, you know, go straight to the top,
28:23
but. Yeah, we said, we said in March
28:26
of 2002 when we were at WrestleMania 18, he wasn't even
28:31
present. Him and Randy Orton are in the
28:33
program that I have in like the very last page, which I always
28:36
think is pretty cool. But yeah.
28:39
And that was champion. Yeah, now here he is, like how
28:42
many months later and he's already champion.
28:44
It's it's wild. All time hot shot, right?
28:48
But yo, has to be this. This whole segment is really
28:51
weird. Like how Heyman's you can tell
28:53
Heyman's trying to do work and build things up, but helmet
28:57
Heyman's telling Lesnar about a boxing match between Ali and
29:00
Frazier and how you know neither man was the same and Heyman says
29:04
the same happened inside Hell of a cell.
29:06
No mercy. He doesn't think Lesnar's the
29:09
same man. He insists that Lesnar can't
29:12
manhandle Big Show like he's used to doing to the other
29:15
competitors, and he doesn't think that he could beat the Big
29:19
Show. And Heyman says he makes the
29:22
decisions for people like Lesnar.
29:24
And the segment ends. And that's that.
29:27
This is why people like me make decisions for people like you.
29:31
I was like, oh shit, all right. And it's really like soft spoken
29:35
Paul Heyman too. Yeah, whole thing.
29:37
Yeah. They're sitting down in that,
29:40
the gym, I mean the locker room. Bench, right, Yeah, it's
29:46
something, it's something. So it's a.
29:50
Lot of foreshadowing, but we'll, we'll get there.
29:51
Yeah, before we dive into what's in the cooler or actually let's
29:57
do what's in the cooler because and then I want to hear some
29:59
Halloween costumes. So Mike, get ready.
30:05
Extra cooler show Sloop. I don't have my usual segment
30:08
here written down, not going to lie, because I'm way too excited
30:11
about Maine Midden Mantar. So let's talk about what
30:15
everybody's got in the cooler this week.
30:17
I've got tequila. It's a rete tequila.
30:19
It's a Blanco. We're back.
30:22
We're back. I'm back too.
30:24
I Yeah, Nick never left, but I've got a West Coast.
30:28
Oh, look at this guy, I've got a.
30:30
West Coast IPA, that's. Almost what I brought tonight.
30:33
One of I don't know, man, I feel like it's the I mean, obviously
30:39
you've you, anybody that's listened long enough has known
30:41
that I've lived in the hazy IPA land forever and ever and ever.
30:45
And then I think the Austin Broken Skull IPA came in and I
30:49
really grew to enjoy that West Coast crisp style of IPA.
30:53
And when Sloop put one out, sign me up.
30:56
Anytime I can find that little 6 pack box I'm I'm picking it up
30:59
and that's what. Happened Yo, that's the they
31:01
that's their new bomb box at my grocery store.
31:04
It's 1899 every week. It's it's a 12 pack.
31:08
It's got juice bomb. It's got that and then it's got
31:11
the pilsner and another one that's like AI don't know what
31:16
it is Lime. It's got a twist of lime in it
31:18
or something, but it's good. It's a nice little change of
31:21
pace. I love the fight of the West
31:23
Coast IPA. It's got a lot of fight, you
31:25
know. Exactly, and that's why I've
31:27
been picking up that 6 pack. Just cardboard box bang done.
31:32
And the can art's beautiful too, so cheers boys.
31:34
Cheers. I've got a Speaking of hazy, IPI
31:38
have a other half. Of course, Nick has the tequila.
31:40
I have this. It's a it's called Donuts.
31:43
It's got Donuts on the cab 8%, you know, double dry hop.
31:47
It's standard delicious other half.
31:52
Michael Maggle. Yes, that's me.
31:55
Actually. I'm drinking another
31:58
Oktoberfest, Sierra Nevada style.
32:01
It's probably it's probably my first beer I've drank in like 3
32:05
weeks so. Wow.
32:07
Welcome back. Yeah, yeah.
32:09
Yeah, so. Sick boy like the Raven flock.
32:12
Yeah, he's in the flock. He's in the flock.
32:14
Wait. Sierra Nevada, Oktoberfest.
32:16
Yeah, I need to like I, I like. Blue Blue label.
32:22
It's like black and yellow, like Steelers, kind of.
32:25
I need to. Get 1 logo, the Oktoberfest that
32:28
isn't like super sticky, yeah, super heavy in the malt like,
32:34
and it leaves that like after you have like 2 of them like
32:37
and, and I like the taste of them, but I feel like I can only
32:40
drink one at a time and like like one a day yeah when I'm
32:45
drinking Stalin's a good one, yeah.
32:47
Yeah, definitely. Maybe I'll grab some of that
32:49
this weekend. All right, let's play our game
32:52
main mid man tar again. Again our our version of F marry
32:57
kill and we're going to give each other three racing Mikey
33:02
were great. Why don't you do Matt to
33:04
costumes? Oh, Mikey, to Matt, here we go.
33:06
I like this. Sorry.
33:07
I'm not letting pick. I I think I'm going to stick in
33:12
the year 1992 for Matt. OK, I'd like to work right.
33:18
First off, we're going to get Uganda.
33:26
We're talking the Ugandan giant Kamala.
33:29
We're going to have some moon breasts all.
33:32
Right. Stars on your nips.
33:36
On your nips, your moon, on your belly.
33:39
Matt would get put up against a police car on Halloween night if
33:42
he's dressed like that. Actually this this next guy was
33:49
actually early in 1993, so not quite nice too.
33:53
Slim range. Go ahead, hit me.
33:55
He is 8 foot tall. He's the giant Gonzalez.
33:59
Oh boy, I. Feel like this deserves some
34:02
like superstars themes behind it.
34:06
Matt's wearing giant Gonzalez. Which which giant is that A.
34:12
Specific. Airbrushed.
34:14
Airbrushed. Airbrushed one and fur and fur
34:18
OK give. You a little warm on the that
34:20
chilly Halloween night Halloween can.
34:21
Be cold. Yeah.
34:23
So it's not just that, not this just airbrushed one that looks,
34:28
you know, a little too. Puke just airbrushed, yeah.
34:30
OK, that, that one's, you know, that's arrestable, an arrestable
34:35
offense, wearing that in public. Oh, maybe I should have went
34:38
with that one. Not too late, too late, all
34:41
right. Last but not least, let's go
34:43
Repo man. All right, so.
34:49
You got to make the faces the whole time.
34:58
I'm I'm going straight to Mantar here and we are putting giant
35:02
Gonzalez there. I would feel completely.
35:08
I would feel so awkward. I'm feeling awkward just talking
35:11
about it. I would get so awkward with the,
35:14
with the fur and the spray, the the the what is it?
35:18
Spray paint? What?
35:20
The. Airbrush ABS on a On a would I
35:24
have to wear stilts? I don't know that's that's going
35:27
on in man's hair. I love this.
35:30
I love that. You're like, that's your bashful
35:32
about going out in that, but Kamala's still on the table.
35:34
No, probably. Kamal would a main event.
35:37
Kamal is the main event and the reason that he is.
35:41
I feel like he's got that mask, he can hide his face.
35:43
True. I feel like I feel like this is
35:45
the shtick. Like him and Repo both have a
35:47
gimmick, right? So the gimmick is pretty on par
35:51
with like when Matt's had a couple of beers and you know
35:55
it's the end of the night, you see me running around like a
35:57
psycho, like. Slapping your belly.
35:59
I feel like it fits right into Kamala with me slapping my
36:02
belly. So that's that's me, my main
36:05
event and Repo Man still has that gimmick and that's why he's
36:08
going to be the mid card because.
36:09
I still feel. Like it would be a fun time of
36:12
like running around like Gold Smash would be doing.
36:16
Dude, that could be really fun if and two of us get to be your
36:18
handlers, Like who is it? Kimchi and yeah, yeah, yeah.
36:22
We're like fun ones to dress up as.
36:26
I feel like. Nobody would know.
36:28
Who the hell? You are take some bowling like
36:30
when he turns good. Oh yeah, that's right.
36:32
And we can get there we go. Who's?
36:33
Got it. All that was pretty good.
36:35
Good ones, Michael. That was good.
36:37
Thanks. Too up the bar, yeah jeez man,
36:41
that's. Tough.
36:42
I'm gonna throw you Nick. You're.
36:44
The last. One, Yeah, all right, Big show
36:48
versus Rikishi, you guys are. Ready, got to do gym too.
36:52
That's. Right.
36:52
Yeah, two more good ones. Big Show versus Rikishi.
36:55
Big Show defeats Rikishi, shockingly, in 2 minutes and 28
37:00
seconds. Freaking squash.
37:02
What is the deal with Big Show during this era?
37:06
Why? Is he wearing a bouncer?
37:09
Yeah, why does he look like a bouncer he's wearing?
37:11
Black. Jeans.
37:13
Black T-shirt. Where's his gear?
37:15
I mean, not that I'm complaining, but he.
37:18
Looks, I don't know if you guys are Trailer Park Boys.
37:20
He looks like the guy always drinks rum.
37:21
But yeah, he looks like a college bouncer.
37:24
I think I would hire him though. Imagine that shit.
37:27
Like, what are the rap? Well, who else?
37:30
Who else would you be your first pick as a bouncer?
37:32
Him Maybe Mang is right, like the tough guy they always talk
37:35
about. Yeah, yeah, Dino Bravo be
37:38
bumming cigarettes. But this is, this is or you can.
37:42
Get or you can get Stu Hart probably right.
37:44
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
37:46
Let me see. Let me see your ID 9.
37:49
That's good enough. Yeah.
37:51
You know Bryce was drinking in the womb, You know, had a
37:55
problem with the schedule on business.
38:00
I I only say it because if you're wondering why the way he
38:04
is is the way he is, it's just probably it.
38:10
I love Stu's inflection of his voice.
38:13
Yeah, that's probably it. After the match, Show hits a
38:17
running power slam with ease and when Chokeslam wins the match in
38:22
2 minutes, Big Show grabs the mic, so buckle up.
38:26
Taz is selling Big Show as the Bad Giant here, and he's
38:30
supposed to be the one. They're setting up this feud
38:32
with him and Brock Lesnar. And that's ultimately where I
38:35
feel like this, you know, shift this change.
38:37
Obviously I haven't done any background of like how he got
38:40
from Singlet to the Bad Giant, but still.
38:43
Like this is me to me and. Feel like this is one of those
38:48
like, times when he, you know, had to go to like, OVW or
38:51
something. Yeah, yeah.
38:53
Lose some weight or like, you know, learn to wrestle more or
38:57
whatever. On a scale of 1 to 10, how much
38:59
do you respect the Big Show in comparison to, like, Andre the
39:04
Giant? Just say.
39:05
Oh. 'Cause that's who he's trying to
39:08
point or. Or at the end of the day it.
39:11
All the same, all the same to me.
39:13
To be like now. The five, I mean.
39:18
In comparison to, I don't. Even Yeah, but as is that like
39:21
the that's the standard bearer and this is the guy that's
39:24
trying you're trying to and but they always base.
39:26
Then big shows a four at best, in my opinion.
39:29
I think that's maybe maybe he could hit 5 compared to Andre,
39:33
but it's too much of AI always thought as well.
39:35
I don't think yeah and it was always too much of like a
39:38
copycat to me. It just felt too.
39:41
They're moving all this stuff. He's either punching someone now
39:44
he's what bad big show would you call him?
39:46
Think, yeah, think about it. Could you ever say, is there
39:49
ever a period of Big Show's career that you could go back to
39:52
and be like that is peak Big Show like?
39:55
Day one when he busts through the ring.
39:57
Right, right. That's it.
39:59
Paul to me, never. He was just like a a good like
40:03
he was one of the better big guys.
40:05
Like, sure, I appreciate Big Show more than like a great
40:09
Khali, you know? Yeah, I don't like disrespect
40:13
him, but like, no. It's unfair to compare him to
40:17
the ninth wonder of the world, right?
40:19
Or OK, so you. Could compare him to compare him
40:22
to Kane I think. I think that's the next guy that
40:27
compare him to, but I've never been a Kane guy.
40:30
The problem with the big show is the flip flopping.
40:32
Everything was good, bad guy, good guy, bad guy.
40:35
And it, it just diluted this guy that should have been booked
40:39
like a monster. And sure, he's charismatic.
40:42
He has more, especially early in his career, he had more charisma
40:45
than Andre. You know, it, it didn't feel the
40:50
same. I wish I was as good as Dan
40:52
Soder. But Oh yeah, we just saw him
40:53
doing his Picasso bed on the that NWO episode.
40:55
We covered a few, right? He goes back right?
40:58
There's just he's, he's a different giant and he's, and
41:02
I'm not in a place where it is just territory, land where you
41:06
can bring in this big giant for a short run and that's it and
41:09
you leave. He did.
41:10
He had the misfortune of coming up in the wrong era.
41:12
Like if he came up in the Andre era, it's a totally different
41:15
thing. 1000 or so just. Just to kind of re re crack.
41:20
I mean, the writing is on the wall.
41:22
What's happening with this story right at Survivor Series is when
41:28
Haman turns on Lesnar, correct? That is correct and we covered
41:33
it on. We covered we.
41:35
Yes, we, we. Episode 91 in February of 2023
41:39
we did. This first we just covered the
41:41
chamber. We just did the Chamber, but we
41:43
did speak about how we can remember the turn.
41:47
Right, yes, right, right. As soon as I'm watching this and
41:50
I'm watching the interaction with Heyman and Lesnar from
41:52
earlier in the episode, I'm like, oh, Oh yes, this is
41:56
building, building up to the turn, which is so crazy.
42:00
Like they put the belt on him so early just to have Haman turn on
42:04
him. And I don't know, that's that.
42:06
That's the stuff in wrestling that drives me nuts.
42:08
It's. It's short, doesn't make sense.
42:10
It doesn't make sense. It just doesn't.
42:11
Why would Haman turn on, right? You got this big bad ass like
42:15
you're going to turn on because you can't beat the big show.
42:17
Like no. Big show.
42:19
Come on man, this guy awful mock turtleneck things.
42:22
No, it's not a mock turtleneck, but it looks like yeah, bad big
42:26
show. I think this.
42:27
Is the most We're almost 2200 episodes and this is probably
42:31
the most we've ever given to the big show.
42:34
He's overdue. I'm a little over the point.
42:36
You're right. Halloween episode and none of
42:38
you came sporting a Fu Manchu like the Big Show had during
42:42
this time. Well, it's like I feel like M
42:45
could pull it off. Well, no more.
42:47
No more it goes. Well, now's your chance, Matt,
42:49
because it's your turn. It's your turn for Maiden,
42:52
Maiden, Main, Mid and Mantar and have at it hoss.
42:59
I should, I should just go straight to two options, Luke or
43:03
Butch, but I'm not going to do that.
43:04
You can go back to our last episode.
43:06
Well. You know that would be mantar.
43:08
You know that would be mantar instantly.
43:10
So don't waste that one. I wasn't going to waste it, but
43:12
I felt like it could have been fun for that to happen.
43:15
And I think the third probably would have been Bash and Booger.
43:18
But anyway, I digress. Let's go to the real one.
43:21
Let's go Bull Nakano. Oh go.
43:26
I like that. Just fill it with Sean, OH.
43:32
I need a Luna. I need a Luna impersonation.
43:34
From He's good at that, he can do it.
43:37
Very specific on the 3rd sensational Queen Sherry with
43:40
the cat face has to be the. You you did an excellent job.
43:46
Because of left field. I like this.
43:47
I am trying to think of who has the best face paint that I could
43:52
have the most fun with. Right.
43:54
And I feel like it's Sherry. Yeah, I want to.
43:57
I want to tap into my inner feline and I'm going to give her
44:01
the main event. Man.
44:03
OK, OK. I don't know.
44:05
I don't know, man. That's hard.
44:07
Full Nakano is going to get the mantar.
44:09
Unfortunately not. No disrespect to her, but.
44:13
The hair that goes straight up. Though, right?
44:14
Yeah, that's. The other two are just too much
44:17
fun. That's not too much Malibu gel
44:19
for now, yeah. I don't know how my sons would
44:21
feel about me cross dressing on Halloween.
44:24
Hey, I'm up for anything. So as Lunovic, yes.
44:29
I wanna see why are you talking like get get the best Snickers.
44:38
That's having an episode. Versus peanut butter.
44:42
That's like you going full exorcist.
44:44
You got the full Luna. Hey.
44:48
I'm going to have a sore throat in the morning.
44:52
I'm going to go. With that said, I got to go main
44:54
Event Luna and shave the side of my head and and then Cherry.
44:59
Sorry, Cherry. Cherry's, Yeah, something about
45:04
Sherry that she's going to get the mid card.
45:06
Sorry. Well done.
45:07
Well done to both of you those, yeah.
45:09
I was very happy that I got assigned Nick.
45:11
I feel like if anybody can pull off Bull Nakano, it's Nick.
45:15
Thank you. Backstage, Tori Wilson's getting
45:18
ready for her match which is coming up next versus Dawn
45:20
Marie, a pool of mud match. This is basically a food fight
45:25
with Halloween themed food and they fight in a pool of
45:28
chocolate milk. Was it you?
45:31
What was it you? What are we dealing?
45:33
With here, what is Halloween about that What is?
45:36
Halloween like there's also like cakes and stuff like.
45:39
Couldn't they have done like something with like bobbing for
45:41
apples or something besides this?
45:43
Pool. That's in the BMW part of the
45:46
party. Yeah, this is like I, I don't
45:51
know these, these kind of matches kind of weird me out,
45:54
but. Do you know what?
45:57
Do you notice what Dawn Marie comes down like?
45:59
They cut to the crowd and there's a guy dressed in some
46:02
sort of mask, but it looks like it looks like Doc Hendrix
46:05
Zombie, like you left him. You left him in the slam jam for
46:09
too long Dead. Now you guys do a better slam
46:15
jam. This dude gets right up for Dawn
46:22
Marie like he is. They're like, oh, the chocolate
46:25
milk music. Program.
46:27
Yeah, Oh. Yeah.
46:28
Yes. Tori manages to pin Dawn Marie,
46:30
in case you were wondering, after chopping Dawn out of the
46:33
pool. Do you see the guy taking a
46:35
photo with a digital camera like a old school little I?
46:38
Love her, you know. You got a snap of this shit.
46:42
The lights go out. By the way, literally I'm doing
46:44
my homework and my wife walks in just as this match is starting.
46:48
My God damn it. I was like all these years
46:52
later. I was like, it's not what you
46:53
think, all right? This is I'm doing my homework
46:56
all right. Thirsty Michael Cole is out is.
47:00
That chocolate milk? Yeah.
47:01
In in the very beginning of this match, in the intros, Michael
47:05
Cole is thirsty. Michael Cole, He is like the
47:08
most perv thing I have heard in a long time.
47:10
Is him just talking about these two competitors coming down to
47:14
the ring or? Pool of Is that his only spot in
47:18
the card? Like the only time we see
47:20
Michael Cole. Maybe that we see him, he's on
47:23
the he's on the call for the entire thing.
47:25
Oh, yeah. Oh, yes, I'm sorry.
47:28
You're right. It's him and Taz.
47:29
We didn't, we did not discuss that.
47:30
How? It's him and Taz on the call.
47:33
Taz definitely dominates when you're listening.
47:35
I don't know if it's the Brooklyn accent or not, but he
47:38
definitely dominates throughout. But I'm, I do have to admit, I
47:41
took all of my notes for this match and then I wrote down at
47:44
the very end. I am truly embarrassed by the
47:46
amount of notes that I have for this match.
47:48
I, I, I don't know what possessed me to really not like
47:53
step by step, blow by blow of what was happening in this
47:56
match. And I wrote it all down and I'm
47:58
not going to even read a single thing that's in front of me.
48:01
What did you say about the ref getting like, you know, when he
48:04
gets like, he like wraps him up and then they fall on him?
48:07
It's very old, very odd. Earl and their son.
48:09
It is. Is it really?
48:11
That's Yeah. So Yep.
48:14
He looks like he met. He's not good.
48:15
I don't have anything about the ref.
48:17
I'm trying to find it, but I did write down that after the match,
48:21
Tori Wilson throws the ring announcer Tony Chimmel into the
48:24
pool of chocolate. Yeah.
48:27
And then right after that was. I'm truly embarrassed by the
48:29
amount of notes I have. What do they call a trick or
48:31
treat match? Yes, trick or treat match and
48:34
it's essentially a bra and panties match even though
48:36
Michael Cole says it's not a. Bra, but they stripped down.
48:41
And it's pins got anywhere Tori it's a pin outside of it.
48:45
Right stage, the lights go out at the Halloween party, we're
48:48
back there, and here comes the biggest loser, Matt Hardy.
48:53
I can't stand this version of Matt Hardy.
48:56
I mean, not that I've ever been a big Matt Hardy guy, but he's
48:59
doing the whole like version V1 thing.
49:02
Version 1. He's like an AOL disc get in the
49:05
mail. Is that the idea here?
49:06
Like AOL 2 point O. Is it supposed to be like I, I,
49:12
I I I can't figure it out if he's like trying to be.
49:16
I think he's training corny. I don't know.
49:19
I don't like it gets a little better, I think when like Matt
49:22
version 2 point O comes out because do you remember it would
49:25
have like there'd be a screen and would have like little
49:28
factoids and it's like corny jokes, but like they're kind of
49:31
funny. But his delivery is just like
49:34
so. Stupid.
49:35
Yeah, take a list. Yeah, I think.
49:38
You are not giving him enough credit.
49:40
And you, Sir? And I think what this party
49:42
needs is to be injected with a dose of magnitude.
49:48
Oh God, they're still lingering too.
49:51
And people for them. It's a crazy sound.
49:54
He sounds like the Hurricane almost, when he's like this game
49:57
like kind of delivery. He's going after Tajiri hard.
50:01
He's asking Tajiri if he knows that they have a match tonight.
50:05
Suggests that he gets ready for this match.
50:07
May Young kisses Tajiri instead and.
50:10
I I found this to be my favorite part of the entire evening and I
50:14
thought Tajiri has pulled the entire show so much so that I
50:17
pulled the clip even though the backstage here, the VFW
50:21
Halloween party as as Mike has talked about the audio here is
50:26
his poor. It is awful.
50:28
It's like so bad it's crackling. It's not the recording that I
50:31
have. It is actually the the recording
50:34
that is put out on Peacock. So let's take a listen anyway.
50:38
To Jerry, I suggest you get ready because you're getting
50:40
ready to have a matitude adjustment.
50:44
Do that to my boyfriend. Boyfriend.
50:47
Whoa, don't worry, Marilyn, I'll send him back after he suffers a
50:53
very unfortunate. Twist of hate What was my
50:59
favorite thing? Now, now it Matt played that
51:03
before the show started. I was like, what was it?
51:05
Nobody. Knew what it was before and I
51:09
loved every second of it is. The best they're They're
51:15
cramming so much in, like Mae Young kisses and makes out with
51:19
Tajiri. And then we get Eddie Guerrero
51:22
flirting with Stephanie McMahon. Rightfully so, Eddie says he
51:26
want that. Him and Chavo want a shot at the
51:28
tag titles. Then we get more John Cena
51:30
rapping at Stephanie, basically leading up to telling her that
51:36
her father is in her office waiting to see her.
51:39
Oh boy. And then we dive right into
51:41
Tajiri versus Matt Hardy, where Matt Hardy defeats Tajiri in 7
51:46
1/2 minutes. Tajiri misses a kick to the
51:48
face, Hardy tries for the Twist of Fate, Hardy low blows Tajiri
51:52
after he misses and hits the Twist of Fate the second time at
51:55
the second try and wins the match.
51:58
The match was fine. It was, you know.
52:00
I am not a Matt Hardy fan in any way shape.
52:03
And his purple pants. The baggy purple pants that look
52:06
like they're a knock off of like the rocks shirt, all the
52:11
patterns all over it. I'm just not a fan.
52:14
But as Jim said, he did have matitude facts in the beginning
52:18
of the the match here as he comes down to the ring.
52:22
They were Matt always got more Halloween candy than his
52:26
brother. And the other fact was Matt has
52:29
seen all the Friday the 13th movies.
52:32
There you go, Halloween Topical topical humor on the Halloween
52:35
episode. Yeah, version 1 is not for me.
52:39
I think, you know, people dogged him in his later years, that
52:41
last run he had with WWE, right, Like he was so you know, his he
52:45
had no knees left and all that stuff.
52:46
And he looks like he's like, but he kind of always compared to
52:50
his mother, like he always has that kind of like.
52:53
He looks like he's clenching his ass when he moves 24/7.
52:57
There he goes. It's great.
52:59
He's always, he always has like a skid mark in his underwear
53:02
that he didn't properly feel it. He.
53:07
Needed a bidet? The man needed a bidet.
53:09
Yeah, backstage, Stephanie goes looking for Vince, but it's
53:12
someone wearing a Vince McMahon mask.
53:14
Obviously, she doesn't fall for it.
53:17
The man believes that Scott Steiner will be joining Raw.
53:20
He's the big free agent coming about, and we talk about him
53:24
debuting at that Survivor Series.
53:27
Bishop kicks off the mask, ends up kissing Stephanie McMahon and
53:32
Stephanie puts up a fight. But then it appears to enjoy the
53:35
kiss and doesn't like it's like one of those you know, like
53:39
doesn't fight him off and lets it happen and Stephanie is left
53:43
confused. And I have 0 desire to find out
53:47
where this storyline went. Yeah, I know.
53:49
It's all. Confused watching it?
53:51
Yeah. I thought this was sleazier than
53:53
silk. Stalkings like this is lazy.
53:57
I was like wow, this is like the the so like the whole show.
54:00
Like, everything that's not wrestling is like sleazy at this
54:04
point. Like.
54:05
I'm going to tell you. Yeah, go ahead.
54:07
I'm going to tell you where it went.
54:09
Oh, where'd it go? Oh goodness.
54:10
So on Raw they're in a backstage watching it on TV, him and
54:17
Triple H, which is. Oh, Eric.
54:20
Yeah, Eric. Eric and Triple H, they're
54:21
watching. Yeah, they're watching like this
54:24
happen, like the replay of it, like they're making out.
54:29
He says something like, that's my ex-wife, like for you, like I
54:34
still, you know, they're divorced, that storyline at this
54:37
point, but whatever. Can you say, what did you say
54:41
that Eric, when he got Bischoff, when he got the script, he was
54:46
like? This is he goes to the red
54:48
right. He had an interview with like,
54:51
Bruce Pritchard or whoever, and he thought it was a rib at
54:55
first. Oh my God.
54:57
Because, you know, like, I'm going to make out with Vince's
55:01
daughter. Like, what the hell?
55:02
I'm sure I'm like, you know, she's married to Triple H too.
55:05
Vince is right there watching it like when I yeah, he said.
55:09
He said it's it was just a scene, but you know, you look
55:12
over and Vince is like 4 feet away, like directing the whole
55:15
thing. It's a.
55:16
Little awkward, yeah. So unbelievable, like her verse
55:21
is not even like the word for where this goes and just.
55:25
Gotta, yeah, gotta take it, pal. You just gotta take it.
55:29
It scares so much to like. That's what Bruce says.
55:32
Like when when Eric's telling the story he he does like a
55:35
Vince impersonation. Yeah.
55:39
The whole thing's like, uncomfortable on top of like
55:42
seeing the way that Stephanie is dressed like.
55:45
And he's wearing a Vince mask. Yeah, yes.
55:48
Oh my God. Complaint.
55:50
So I don't even, yeah, yeah, like there's a lot to unpack
55:53
there and I don't even want to touch that with like a yeah, 10
55:56
foot pole. Let's let's not tag Team
56:01
Champion on Smack Down. Kurt Angle is facing off against
56:05
Eddie Guerrero because Eddie and Chavo want the title shot.
56:08
This makes sense. Eddie ends up defeating Kurt
56:10
angle in a 13 minute and 20 minute, 13 minute and 22nd
56:15
match. This was fun.
56:18
I I love both of these guys and I guess this goes back to, you
56:23
know, what Matt was saying in defense of the edge Benoit
56:27
opener and it but Eddie to me is a guy that I feel like I've said
56:32
a lot that I, I feel like when we missed a lot out, a lot of,
56:37
you know, like it was that low. We were in college, we weren't
56:41
watching a lot. He was mostly on Smack Down,
56:44
too, and that was, you know, if we were going to watch
56:46
wrestling, it was Raw. Exactly. 100% right and.
56:52
Did you know we are recording right now?
56:54
October 9th? It is Eddie Guerrero's birthday.
56:58
Halloween, not Halloween, Yeah. Could you?
57:01
Did you have any idea how old Eddie Guerrero would have turned
57:04
today in 2025? 60 Yeah, I would have said in
57:08
the Sixties, 61. Michael. 50.
57:16
Six. Yeah, maybe late 50s now, doing
57:18
the math in my head. 58. It would have been.
57:22
October 9th, 1967 Yeah, Eddie would have been 58.
57:26
And to me that like struck me as him really, it like really hit
57:31
me of him leaving too soon. Like, yeah, he died a long time
57:35
ago, yeah. Thinking about him just turning
57:38
58 right now is like a holy shit moment for me.
57:41
It it like really put things into perspective of like how
57:44
much got taken away from Eddie Guerrero and how.
57:49
Much more of that you. Had in them.
57:51
I've said often, like Eddie is the guy that I feel like if
57:57
there were one guy for me to go back and watch stuff that I
58:00
didn't watch, it would be Eddie. Yeah, yeah.
58:03
I feel like you've you've and we've asked that question
58:06
whether it was on our podcast to you or if it was you.
58:09
Know it was hanging with Mr. Cooler episode I feel like.
58:12
Yeah, Eddie's the guy for me. Or maybe it was on Fig guys.
58:16
I'm not I'm not entirely sure, but you know, talking about
58:21
hanging with Mr. Cooler, I wonder if Aaron McCall, who is a
58:24
former hanging with Mr. Cooler guest from the Bad Idea Social
58:30
Club podcast, highly recommend that going to listen and find
58:32
those guys out. They do a phenomenal job.
58:34
But he was he's from Grand Rapids.
58:37
So maybe he was at this this event.
58:40
Maybe I'll have to reach out. All right, so like we said,
58:44
Eddie wins. It's another like just messy
58:47
ending. You know, Chavo comes down, he
58:50
gets involved, he gets knocked off the apron by angle.
58:53
Benoit comes down out of nowhere when the ref's not paying
58:56
attention. He hits angle with the tag team
58:57
championship, which allows Eddie to to hit a top rope frog splash
59:02
for the win. And then after the match, Benoit
59:06
it's Eddie and Chavo with the title separately.
59:09
And yeah, it was a fun match. I I enjoyed this more than I
59:12
enjoyed the opener. See, and I'm the opposite.
59:15
It was very, very close. I feel like the first match, the
59:18
Benoit and Edge match, I would have been comfortable giving it
59:21
four and a quarter cans and this is more like a 375 or a four.
59:25
That's how much I enjoyed these two matches.
59:27
Yeah, that's, that's awesome. That's awesome.
59:30
But again, think about it from the perspective that I'm
59:33
watching them too. Like there's no storyline.
59:36
Oh, totally. Yeah.
59:37
And if you're. Just watching it as a wrestling
59:39
match. I'm just pulling a random
59:41
wrestling match out of 2002 and turned it on and was like oh
59:44
shit, these two are going and it happens.
59:46
What the same? Card I always think about it
59:48
like there's the movie. I think it's 12 Monkeys, where
59:51
like Bruce Willis hears a song for the first time in a very
59:56
long time. And like, it could be any song,
59:57
right? But it happens to be a good
59:58
song. It's like that sleepwalk song.
1:00:01
But like this. If you happen to not get to see
1:00:05
wrestling for 10 years, right, you're like living in some post
1:00:08
apocalyptic wasteland and then like this is the one episode you
1:00:11
get to watch, you'd be like, hell yeah.
1:00:13
Kurt Angle and Eddie Guerrero, like just drop.
1:00:17
Yeah, exactly. Dropped in from.
1:00:18
Nowhere. It's not as good as the
1:00:21
WrestleMania main event, like no, but I don't ask.
1:00:23
But this is great. Probably the first time they
1:00:26
face. Yeah, and their probabilities
1:00:28
too, you know. Yeah.
1:00:31
All right. So don't think we could go any
1:00:34
further without me giving my main, mid and Mantar our version
1:00:39
of F marry kill. I get to go with Jim.
1:00:42
So you guys have given out some great suggestions, but what we
1:00:47
haven't tapped into is tandem or family costumes.
1:00:52
And all right, it's a lot of fun to dress up as a family, yeah,
1:00:56
or as a tandem, you know? So here are.
1:00:59
Yours Matt's family, or it's his actual family.
1:01:03
No, it's for Jim. It's for Jim.
1:01:04
Jim's family. It can be.
1:01:07
Jim can pick anybody that he wants.
1:01:10
He could pick his wife, his child, his dogs.
1:01:12
But I might give a few suggestions.
1:01:13
So the first one I'm going to kind of tee up for Jim.
1:01:16
This one's easy. Jim can be any of these three
1:01:20
members, but you 2 have to be the other two members and it
1:01:25
would be none other than Jimmy Hart Earthquake and Dino Bravo.
1:01:29
Oh boy. OK, my next suggestion would
1:01:34
also probably pertain to the four of us.
1:01:39
It would be the four doinks, but I'm not.
1:01:43
I refuse to be a bushwhacker so that the four annoying.
1:01:47
Do you have to be MO or? I'll take MO, I'll take Mabel,
1:01:51
whatever you guys want, you know?
1:01:52
These are tough. This is tough.
1:01:53
This is Oscar too. The.
1:01:55
Last one, you could choose anybody.
1:01:57
You could choose Mike, you work great.
1:01:58
You could choose your your son. You could choose your wife, You
1:02:02
could choose your your dogs would be Mae Young and either
1:02:07
sexual chocolate or the Hand. So those are your choices that
1:02:14
I'm giving you. I, I, I wanted to go with a
1:02:16
tandem group theme because you know.
1:02:19
Very young sexual chocolate in the hand.
1:02:22
Oh man, I like that idea. That's pretty good.
1:02:25
You can see the dog is the hand. That that was where my head
1:02:28
went. I saw one.
1:02:29
Of your your dogs. Good size for the hand.
1:02:31
That's pretty good. Oh boy, I'm going to have to
1:02:35
start. This is tough.
1:02:37
These are all fun options. You see, you're good at
1:02:39
Halloween. Costumes like these all kind of
1:02:41
work. Like I don't want to kill one of
1:02:43
these. That's the artist in him I.
1:02:45
Do not want to mentor any of these, but I think we would have
1:02:50
the world's greatest time if we went as the four doinks, you
1:02:53
know, as as imagine going to like next time we go to
1:03:00
WrestleMania or like whatever the summer slam 4 doinks, the
1:03:04
four doinks any like so how many?
1:03:07
People would get the reference like it would be fantastic.
1:03:11
You could get the fatigues, I mean right?
1:03:13
Like how? I don't know how you do the
1:03:14
math. Like the purple garbage bag?
1:03:18
I don't maybe is it, I don't know, you just wear garbage bags
1:03:21
when people get the idea. So that's my main.
1:03:24
That's my main. I love the idea of going as
1:03:27
Jimmy Hart with I think Mikey's got to be Dino Bravo running
1:03:31
around. Dye the hair blonde.
1:03:34
Yeah, dye the hair blonde. Smoking shavings, burning cigs
1:03:37
left and right. That is earthquake.
1:03:42
I'm gonna have to keep it as the mid I and I love, you know, the
1:03:45
hand, the dog hand, but I will mentor.
1:03:47
Yeah, it's kind of disgusting too.
1:03:49
It is, yeah. Cuz it's gonna be like some, you
1:03:51
know, it was like that. Remember, the hand was like
1:03:52
slimy, slimy, Yeah. Like the old containers of like
1:03:55
the fake ectoplasm that used to come in Ghostbusters toys.
1:03:59
Yeah, that's good. Out of the $0.25 machine in the
1:04:01
grocery store, that slime. Yeah, yeah.
1:04:04
No, that's all right. So those are those are
1:04:06
excellent, though I it. Sounds like we've we've got some
1:04:08
Halloween costume ideas. All, I'm inspired.
1:04:11
I'm inspired. Me too.
1:04:16
Sorry. I was practicing my Luna.
1:04:18
I was practicing my Earthquake shake.
1:04:20
Back and forth. Backstage, Kurt Angle enters the
1:04:23
Halloween party and he is not happy about Benoit and his
1:04:27
interference in the match. That meant absolutely nothing,
1:04:31
but Angle tosses Shannon Moore onto the table.
1:04:33
Thank God Angle's determined to find Benoit.
1:04:36
Thinks he found Benoit in the screen mask but it's brother
1:04:39
love. Oh boy.
1:04:41
These are the things in like wrestling that are so corny, but
1:04:44
like you're like. Ah, yeah, all right.
1:04:47
Does I? Love you and he's like.
1:04:51
The fact that he thought Prichard was Benoit is
1:04:55
absolutely ridiculous because Prichard is so fat and rotund.
1:05:01
Rotund good words. Oh.
1:05:02
God, he puts he Benoit attacks Angle from behind, puts his head
1:05:08
in the water, Bob for apples. Benoit kicks free.
1:05:11
Angle hits the Angle slam on on Benoit through a table, but as
1:05:15
he's up in the air, Benoit hits a glass bottle over Angle's head
1:05:19
and the two of them are left laying unconscious to end the
1:05:23
segment. I would love to know how many
1:05:25
times in professional wrestling this whole gimmick of like
1:05:29
enemies being tag team partners has happened.
1:05:32
Because the tale is oldest time, right?
1:05:36
I'm not doing it. No, no, I don't expect that.
1:05:38
Please. There's like there's like 800 of
1:05:41
them. Yeah, you can get back to me at
1:05:42
like episode 200 for that one that.
1:05:46
Not a chance. No.
1:05:48
Oh, ready for the main event? The main event is Brock Lesnar
1:05:51
versus Rey Mysterio. It feels like it's taking us
1:05:53
forever to get here. Wait, what is it?
1:05:55
Bad Giant I I can't get that through my head.
1:05:58
Bad giant. It's like bad Santa.
1:06:00
Bad Santa. That's why I'm thinking of.
1:06:02
Big nasty bastard. Yeah, big nasty bastard.
1:06:05
I love that name. I think that's great.
1:06:07
Bossman's a genius. Big big nasty gym is now it's
1:06:10
official name I'm. Just a big nasty gym.
1:06:14
Oh man, Halloween episode. That would have been a good one.
1:06:17
The, you know, dragging the casket.
1:06:19
That's got some cemetery vibes. Just like hanging version of Big
1:06:25
Boss. Man, yeah, Boss Man's, Boss
1:06:26
Man's dabbled a lot of Halloween type stuff.
1:06:29
All right, continue. I I pause.
1:06:31
This match is exactly what you expected this match to be like.
1:06:35
It's like cookie cutter professional wrestling, little
1:06:39
man versus big man. He's got his moments, but then
1:06:42
you know who's about to come and get himself involved.
1:06:47
Mysterio goes to deliver the 6192 legs, kicks Lesnar over the
1:06:51
middle rope. He tries for the 619, but Big
1:06:54
Show catches Rey Mysterio and slams him into the crowd.
1:06:59
And then he goes after Lesnar and just obliterates him.
1:07:04
Choke slams Lesnar through the announcer's table.
1:07:07
Show declares that the belt will be his with a mouthful of
1:07:11
marbles. As usual.
1:07:13
It's the main event is what it is.
1:07:17
I I don't know how else to paint this picture for you guys.
1:07:20
Exactly what you would expect. Magle calls it a preview of
1:07:24
Survivor Series. That's what it is, right?
1:07:26
Like yeah, it's just setting it up.
1:07:29
It's yeah, God. Did anyone watch that?
1:07:33
Oh, that's the Survivor Series with Big Papa Pump, you say?
1:07:35
I definitely. I definitely was there That in
1:07:38
college. Oh, you were there.
1:07:39
I was there. Yep, I was.
1:07:41
Yeah. I was at Madison Square Garden
1:07:43
for it. It.
1:07:43
Was a big deal. That was a big deal it.
1:07:45
Was a really big deal and I remember the sirens going off.
1:07:48
And Big Papa. Pump coming out and Chris
1:07:50
Shawinsky. That was a such a let down Big
1:07:54
Papa Pomp era. So this also leads to we kind of
1:07:58
didn't talk about it. It's the one thing that is kind
1:08:01
of cool about this card, right? You've got outside of this main
1:08:07
event thing, you've got the tag team champions in Benoit and
1:08:12
Angle and then the two guys on each side that want to be
1:08:17
involved with them. You've got who's Edge and Rey
1:08:21
Mysterio are teaming up at this point and then Eddie and Chavo.
1:08:26
So those three teams end up facing each other as well as
1:08:30
Survivor Series. So there's a lot of like, you
1:08:33
know, layers to this that when you think about what it's
1:08:36
building to, it's kind of cool so.
1:08:40
Yeah, they're giving you your storylines that you, you know.
1:08:45
They are they they are. And I guess maybe I will take
1:08:49
the blame for not doing my homework thoroughly enough to
1:08:51
like connect the dots between this and how close it is to
1:08:55
Survivor Series. So when you think about that,
1:09:00
it's it's definitely changes things a little bit.
1:09:03
It's just it's very hard to watch wrestling when you don't
1:09:08
remember being enthralled in the era at fair.
1:09:10
Enough. Fair enough, fair enough.
1:09:12
And I'm always and I'm always and, and this is not a knock, I
1:09:17
have always been like, I love the action in the ring, but I
1:09:21
also equally love the storyline of it.
1:09:24
Like, I think the storyline in professional wrestling is
1:09:27
extremely necessary. Like, yeah, you could tell a
1:09:31
great story in the ring, but you also, to me to keep me
1:09:34
entertained week to week and pay-per-view to pay-per-view.
1:09:38
I need something to invest myself in.
1:09:40
You know, I'm not just gonna watch it to enjoy a wrestling
1:09:43
match, if you will. So I think that for me is is a
1:09:47
hard time to go back and just watch a random Smackdown and
1:09:50
thoroughly enjoy it. Yeah, and and it's one thing
1:09:53
when you're on the pay per views and you're getting those back
1:09:56
stories being regurgitated and forced down your throat again.
1:09:59
But on a normal week to week program on a smackdown, not
1:10:02
getting the full picture, so to speak.
1:10:04
So it yeah, it's definitely a bit tougher to to make your way
1:10:08
through, but. Yeah.
1:10:10
So I'll, I'll give my cans in cooler first.
1:10:12
I gave this three cans in the cooler.
1:10:14
This this smack down, I thought it was fun.
1:10:18
Like Matt has sold me on throughout it is that, you know,
1:10:23
the the talent is through the roof, which I agree with 100%,
1:10:30
but three 3 is where I land. And I think that's like, I don't
1:10:33
think it's a bad score. I don't think it's a like
1:10:36
through the roof. Like you got to go watch this if
1:10:38
you want to watch something that puts you in the mood for
1:10:40
Halloween, you know, and it's professional wrestling.
1:10:42
It's a little goofy. I think it's interesting how
1:10:46
like there's nothing. It's all all the Halloween stuff
1:10:49
is backstage segments. It's nothing, which is fine.
1:10:52
I don't want some like match where they're hitting each other
1:10:55
with pumpkins and shit. But well, there's there's the
1:10:59
trick or treat match. But yeah, yes, yes there is.
1:11:02
That doesn't exactly feel Halloween.
1:11:03
Feel like I blacked out during that.
1:11:05
It was terrible gimmick but. I'm with you, I'm with you.
1:11:08
It's a 3 for me. It's you know it's 1 of 52
1:11:12
episodes of Smackdown in a year, right?
1:11:14
Like it's but it's fun. It's fun to go back and watch
1:11:17
the Smackdown 6. I love that stuff.
1:11:19
But my problem is they don't tie up the hot the Halloween party.
1:11:23
Like it's just two guys out, knocked out.
1:11:25
And like what happened to Tajiri and Mae Young?
1:11:27
I want to know like, come on man.
1:11:29
Yeah, like that's. What is it?
1:11:33
It is Slee. There's a lot of sleazy stuff
1:11:35
too, like we talking super, some make out and it's very 2002.
1:11:40
Early, like we didn't even, we stayed away from it, but we
1:11:43
really could have dove into the whole Bischoff and Stephanie
1:11:46
thing, even. Yeah.
1:11:47
Like it is. Feel like all of us were
1:11:50
extremely uncomfortable watching it and thinking about Vince
1:11:53
being on the sidelines. Yeah, yeah, I think that was
1:11:57
enough for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:12:01
What do you 2 got Mikey? What do you got?
1:12:03
What do you give it? I'll give it 3 and a quarter
1:12:05
actually in a corner. It was a fun shot, that's why.
1:12:09
I I would. There's there's nothing to worry
1:12:11
about with a shot. Come on, you know how I'm.
1:12:13
Matt's giving it like A5. Yeah, exactly.
1:12:16
So, yeah, you know that Tokyo. Yeah, I had, I had fun watching
1:12:21
it. Yes, you know, I thought it was
1:12:23
solid. I yeah, I enjoyed it so.
1:12:27
I will say the back I don't think like I think the hard part
1:12:33
for me is I think the backstage segments felt extremely
1:12:37
disjointed from the in ring action for sure.
1:12:40
Like where they tried to tie them in the backstage stuff was
1:12:43
a little bit too corny, in the ring was too serious, you know?
1:12:49
It was also clearly filmed that wildly different art like is not
1:12:53
yes the 100% close yeah, which is fine you.
1:12:57
Don't see Eddie shed his Zorro costume at any point.
1:13:02
Like strap up his boots. That would have made it so much
1:13:04
better if he showed they show up.
1:13:06
In costumes down the road, nobody, yeah, nobody shows up in
1:13:09
costumes, not even to, not even Tajiri, like.
1:13:12
Fans certainly showed up. The fans are all dressed in
1:13:15
Halloween and it's that's one of the better parts.
1:13:17
The fans went all out. It's like you're you go ahead
1:13:22
guy or whatever. Go ahead 6.
1:13:24
Parts quarter costume. Cans man, I got to take a
1:13:27
quarter can off for the the wrestlers not coming down in
1:13:30
their costumes I yeah that that really ruined my night I.
1:13:35
Think that was, That was one of the things in my notes from
1:13:37
earlier that I didn't talk about just like especially like a guy
1:13:40
like Tajiri with his gimmick, like he at least should have
1:13:44
come down in a costume. Like he's so funny.
1:13:46
See him get like slammed and that's the wig calls off.
1:13:49
You know like that's finished as.
1:13:51
Eddie with the with the Zorro mask and Cape and sword.
1:13:55
Again, Again, though, that's where it comes down to like the
1:13:57
matches, the storyline that they were trying to tell in the card
1:14:02
itself. I feel like could have waited a
1:14:03
week, You know, you could have had a little bit more of a fun
1:14:06
episode. They felt disjointed in terms of
1:14:11
that. But I'm still.
1:14:12
Going, I'm still going 375 I've I had a blast.
1:14:16
I enjoyed watching this and sure, it's a lot of the lore
1:14:19
associated with the Smackdown 6 and, you know, going back and
1:14:22
learning a little bit more about what Heyman was saying about the
1:14:24
time and, and, and all of that. So I'm taking that quarter can
1:14:29
off of the four and moving it to the 375 because of the lack of
1:14:33
continuation in the story from the VFW party down to the right.
1:14:40
Yeah, all those rosebuds never showed up.
1:14:41
Like it was the whole party that was a bunch of rosebuds.
1:14:44
Yeah, yeah. Good point.
1:14:47
Oh man, it was, it was fun and I always love to dabble in this.
1:14:51
And it's pretty crazy throughout the years to to look back at all
1:14:54
the different Halloween episodes that we've had of this show that
1:14:58
we've covered like throughout wrestling, because it goes all
1:15:01
over the place. For real, if you're a spooky
1:15:03
season fanatic, go back. That's like some of our best
1:15:05
stuff back there. The the warrior stuff, the
1:15:08
what's the 1 Piper, the book butcher?
1:15:11
What was the WCW national cover? Chamber of Heart, Yes.
1:15:14
No, not we didn't watch Harry Potter 2.
1:15:20
That's on the Patreon. Though But here's the beautiful
1:15:23
thing is that we still have another Halloween esque episode
1:15:27
that you're going to dive into, and I think this one is going to
1:15:31
be a little bit. Better it's a banger all time
1:15:33
banger. Anybody want to tease it?
1:15:35
Would you refer to it as? Black wedding.
1:15:39
Dark Wedding. Black wedding, Yeah.
1:15:43
I think it's going to be a good one.
1:15:44
Yeah. Stephanie on the cross.
1:15:47
Oh boy. Can't wait.
1:15:48
Oh. Alzheimer.
1:15:51
All right, thank you guys for listening to us, taking time and
1:15:54
joining us on our every other week schedule that we're on
1:15:57
right now. We really appreciate you taking
1:16:00
the time and listening to us. Enjoy the rest of your week,
1:16:04
enjoy your weekend and stay tuned for more of the extra
1:16:08
cooler show and tell all your friends.
1:16:11
Cheers. I my throat hurts.
1:16:14
All right, get us home. See you 2 two that's.
1:16:23
That's a full moment. It's Halloween night.
1:16:25
Well, it's been a weird Halloween night.
1:16:27
I smacked at it. Up next.