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Episode 17 Season 1 “NBA Finals" · ZBD Sports Podcast

• 0:00
  Oh yeah.
• 0:02
  The Nets Jets and the Nets.
• 0:06
  They're all the heads.
• 0:09
  You heard that?
• 0:11
  All the teams in Brooklyn.
• 0:12
  The Nets Jets and the Nets.
• 0:35
  Okay.
• 0:39
  Pretty good series.
• 0:41
  We're super close.
• 0:43
  Yeah, I mean I wish I wish it was a little bit more competitive, but still still great basketball all around.
• 0:50
  Got me looking forward to the NBA Finals for sure.
• 0:54
  Fuck your life, baby mom.
• 0:56
  We all slide.
• 0:58
  New York, yeah.
• 0:58
  New York's on the range.
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  New York live, baby.
• 1:01
  New York's on a run.
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  I know that bitch jumping there right now.
• 1:05
  I know New York going crazy, bro.
• 1:10
  I wasn't I wasn't I was personally wasn't expecting New York to go on as good of a run as they did.
• 1:16
  Fucking going for 11 in a row.
• 1:19
  Um blow they blew out the Sixers, blew out the Cavs, 4-0 sweeps.
• 1:25
  They got a rest break going into this OKC series, so I don't know.
• 1:30
  We'll see if that plays into their advantage.
• 1:33
  Having a week off against the Spurs team that just went to seven against the team that won it last year, um, got the two-time reigning MVP.
• 1:44
  Um but they outplayed him.
• 1:48
  One game seven KC.
• 1:50
  And I know that you were saying game three, game four, it's done.
• 1:55
  It's done.
• 1:56
  That's it, it wasn't done, bro.
• 1:58
  They took it to seven.
• 1:59
  They took it to seven.
• 2:07
  I don't want to hear it, baby.
• 2:09
  You as I ain't gonna lie, bro.
• 2:11
  I'm leaning towards okay.
• 2:12
  See, I was, bro.
• 2:15
  I don't say every a lot of people was, bro.
• 2:18
  But the fact that fucking saying it's only because the whole series, I I was I was pretty high on them, but but what but I was I was kind of leaning towards just the more experienced.
• 2:29
  They had been there last year.
• 2:31
  I I did kind of trust in Shay, but just the fact that the rest of their the rest of their team just didn't do anything in game seven.
• 2:38
  They all ghosted, um, except for Shay and the Spurs were up for the moment.
• 2:43
  I mean the rest of the small the rest of the Spurs, the rest of the Spurs starters all put up 15 plus though, or like like 12, 13, but then that and then like Wendy, I feel like he went for like 25 plus in game seven.
• 2:57
  He he definitely played solid, Castle played salvage, and penny played solid.
• 3:02
  Like we need to fight.
• 3:04
  A lot of their biggest hunger, aka uh David Copperfield.
• 3:09
  Boy, that motherfucker disappeared in that goddamn series.
• 3:13
  I'm telling you, it's like Houdini.
• 3:15
  He pulled a whole magic trick on all of us right before our eyes.
• 3:19
  Maybe explain it.
• 3:21
  It's cause he had fucking it's because he had the 7-4 alien on him, dude.
• 3:25
  Man, that's why I seen him listen.
• 3:28
  You can't really do much when this fucking when this guy is fucking.
• 3:31
  I seen there were times where he had wingspan, bro, imagine.
• 3:35
  Times where he had castle on him, times where he had Cornet, times where he had like other broken blocked by Cornet, bro.
• 3:42
  That's why I'm a hornstein.
• 3:44
  But Wimby, bro, Wimby wasn't on him 100%.
• 3:47
  They switched a lot.
• 3:48
  Wimby wasn't on him every possession.
• 3:50
  There were times he wasn't.
• 3:52
  He wasn't and he just wasn't aggressive.
• 3:53
  At that time, you gotta attack.
• 3:55
  You're 7'1, 2, whatever the fuck it is, bro.
• 3:58
  You going up against a whatever somebody that's not Wimby will just say that's not 7-4.
• 4:05
  You gotta attack.
• 4:06
  You gotta get your own shot.
• 4:07
  You gotta, you know what I'm saying?
• 4:08
  You gotta play like how the fucker, or at least even if we we we talked about it, we see we see the numbers right here.
• 4:14
  He shot fantastic, but he only shot the ball five times a game.
• 4:18
  Who?
• 4:19
  Uh Chet?
• 4:20
  Chet, yeah, he shot over 50%.
• 4:22
  I didn't, yeah, no, he did he was shooting around 50%.
• 4:24
  But yeah.
• 4:25
  But I mean, but every game I checked the box score, he was shooting the ball in between three to six times a game.
• 4:31
  Um, you know what I'm saying?
• 4:32
  Like, you got even if I'll say this broke.
• 4:34
  Game seven he went one for two.
• 4:36
  Game seventy went one for six.
• 4:37
  That's what I'm saying, bro.
• 4:38
  You shot the ball once.
• 4:38
  It looks like the ball twice, bro.
• 4:40
  It looks better when you go, to me in my mind, three for seventeen versus two for four.
• 4:48
  Because at least in those 17 shots, you was trying.
• 4:51
  Right?
• 4:51
  You was putting up shots, you was trying, you know what I mean?
• 4:53
  Like you missed them, but I know normally you're not gonna miss those shots.
• 4:57
  At least versus just not being in the game.
• 5:00
  Like, bro, hair was just, he was checked out.
• 5:03
  Yeah.
• 5:03
  He didn't, he out, he had looked, what was his highest?
• 5:06
  We should have his highest was probably like 12, 13.
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  If that, bro.
• 5:11
  That's like, bro, that's fucking to me, that's unexpected.
• 5:13
  When you getting paid the money you're getting paid, bro.
• 5:15
  No.
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  And this nigga is supposed to be and he was was he didn't he wasn't an all-star this year.
• 5:20
  He might have been.
• 5:22
  No, I think he was an all-star this year.
• 5:24
  No, he won't.
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  He was.
• 5:25
  I think he was an all-star the last two years, bro.
• 5:27
  Bro, this was like his healthiest season that he's played since he's been in NBA.
• 5:31
  Yeah.
• 5:31
  Well, I think he's been in the year for three years.
• 5:33
  Not last year, the year before that, when they lost the year.
• 5:35
  He's been in the year for three years.
• 5:36
  Three or four years.
• 5:37
  No, because he missed the whole first year of his rookie year.
• 5:40
  Remember, he broke his foot in the summer.
• 5:41
  Yeah, missed that whole year.
• 5:43
  They came back and they went and lost to Dallas.
• 5:46
  He shot 27 from three, 51 from the field.
• 5:49
  Yeah.
• 5:49
  I mean, bro, he be he was putting up 0.4 to 1, 0.6 threes, and he was only putting up four to seven shots a game.
• 5:57
  I said three to six at first, so I'm that's what I'm saying, bro.
• 6:00
  He's like, he just wasn't trying, in my opinion.
• 6:04
  Not trying, you know what I'm saying?
• 6:05
  That's tough when you mean you NBA play.
• 6:07
  I'm not gonna say that.
• 6:08
  I mean, bro, I mean, bro, the fact that the fact that McCain was averaging 13, like with five to thirteen shots a game, it's like, bro, at least.
• 6:17
  At least McCain.
• 6:17
  Yeah.
• 6:18
  No, I mean, I I I guess it's it's different because he is more of a shooter for sure.
• 6:22
  That bitch.
• 6:23
  I mean, dude, fucking I mean, dude, Jalen Williams was shooting button.
• 6:27
  I'd rather have you come down and just shoot some crazy ass shit than you to pass up a wide open shot.
• 6:32
  Sorry, that's just me.
• 6:34
  I pass you the ball in the corner, you wide open, you just don't shoot that bitch.
• 6:38
  I'd rather have you come down and jack some crazy ass shit than to fucking just, you know what I'm saying?
• 6:43
  Like, bro, especially if you that guy.
• 6:45
  If you somebody like Jerry McCain and also whatever.
• 6:48
  And also, and also a big a big piece for OKC, I think, that hurt them was not having AJ Mitchell this whole series.
• 6:56
  Having J Dub.
• 6:57
  Well, no, bro, but I'm I'm I'm saying, well, so when they didn't have J Dub as much last series, who or against AJ?
• 7:02
  Well no, AJ, and you know what I thought about AJ Mitchell.
• 7:04
  AJ Mitchell AJ played in the series.
• 7:06
  He played the first two games.
• 7:07
  Okay, the first games.
• 7:08
  And he didn't play good.
• 7:09
  I think LA, you went against an LA team that did not have any defense at all.
• 7:14
  Everybody shot good against him.
• 7:16
  He was still getting when J Dub came in.
• 7:17
  He was still playing good, though.
• 7:18
  J Dub is the, you know, you you talk about a player that's fucking AJ Mitchell was still playing solid, bro.
• 7:27
  In the semifinals, Phoenix.
• 7:30
  He was okay against Phoenix, bro.
• 7:32
  He he had really two spectacular, look it up, two spectacular games against LA.
• 7:36
  He had back-to-back 24 and then 25.
• 7:39
  And then closed LA out.
• 7:41
  Right?
• 7:41
  But if you look at the Phoenix series, Shay averaged damn near 30 in that series, and he shot 57%.
• 7:48
  He shot good in that Phoenix series.
• 7:50
  Shay played great.
• 7:52
  The whole team did.
• 7:53
  So they didn't need AJ Mitchell.
• 7:56
  I'm not saying he played bad, but he didn't play like how he was a lot of people like, who the fuck is AJ Mitchell after that LA series?
• 8:04
  Yeah.
• 8:05
  You know what I'm saying?
• 8:06
  Because he wasn't even starter.
• 8:07
  He wasn't a starter at first, dude.
• 8:09
  Yeah.
• 8:10
  Like they they put him in because he was giving life off the bench.
• 8:13
  I mean, bro.
• 8:13
  And he just so happened to drop.
• 8:15
  He was still putting up 15 a game versus the Suns.
• 8:17
  Okay, so we played.
• 8:19
  But that's when you had Chet.
• 8:19
  J Dub averaged 20.
• 8:21
  But that's when you had Chet being more assertive, putting up 17.
• 8:24
  But look at Shay though.
• 8:26
  That's what I'm saying.
• 8:26
  He averaged 34 a game in that series of shot.
• 8:29
  Fantastic.
• 8:30
  Yeah.
• 8:32
  That was classical, just Shea and OKC uh being a dominant team.
• 8:37
  Yeah.
• 8:38
  But J Dub really, I really would have liked to see them play them against J Dub because every game this year, bro, even in a regular season, somebody was missing on either lineup.
• 8:50
  Right?
• 8:50
  Like, I think only one game or two, maybe I'm pretty sure it's one that we've seen where both teams had a full fucking full stable.
• 9:00
  Like it was a everybody was healthy.
• 9:02
  And so you it's hard to judge really.
• 9:05
  I I know that, you know, a 20, 20 point per game score was gonna make a difference, especially when we see him carry OKC last year in that finals against Indiana.
• 9:17
  Yeah.
• 9:18
  I'm pretty sure he had two 40-point games in that series, bro.
• 9:22
  No.
• 9:22
  Oh, J.
• 9:23
  Yeah, no, yeah.
• 9:24
  He averaged like 28 almost 30.
• 9:26
  I know.
• 9:26
  I know that he had one for sure.
• 9:27
  I know the other, I think that he only had I think he had one 40-point game.
• 9:30
  He probably had a he probably had a 30-point game.
• 9:35
  He had a couple 30 games.
• 9:36
  I mean, he played the best to me in my opinion out of everybody on OKC last year.
• 9:40
  He was the reason why they was it was just tough because I mean, bro, that that Indiana team was, I mean, dude, they were they were on a magic.
• 9:47
  That's crazy.
• 9:48
  They weren't even that good, but they just were clicking.
• 9:50
  I mean, TJ McConnell.
• 9:51
  TJ McConnell, man.
• 9:53
  Yeah, I just saw some shit on on Instagram about that, about the run they had last year and how fucking he was coming off the bench and making the right plays.
• 10:02
  Yeah.
• 10:03
  He might score nine points.
• 10:06
  He might score nine points, but he's gonna get two steals.
• 10:09
  He might have a random block.
• 10:11
  He's gonna have four or five deflections.
• 10:13
  Like he's gonna do it.
• 10:19
  He's gonna do that.
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  He'll make an impact.
• 10:23
  But he's a high IQ player though.
• 10:26
  So like high IQ players.
• 10:28
  He's got a nice mid-range.
• 10:29
  He's like a uh a grade below like Caruso.
• 10:33
  You know what I'm saying?
• 10:33
  Like he's like a uh, you got tier one and Caruso and and and certain players like that, six men, and then you have one below.
• 10:42
  You know what I mean?
• 10:43
  Like he's like uh in a level to me, like.
• 10:46
  Bro, the way he was playing in that in the playoffs last year, though, I wouldn't say that he was a step down below Caruso, dude, because he played.
• 10:53
  He didn't play as good.
• 10:54
  He didn't, he don't do as he can't, I don't think he'd do as much as Caruso.
• 10:58
  Because Caruso can guard one through four realistically.
• 11:01
  TJ McConnell is one through two or three.
• 11:05
  Well I'd say one through three, bro.
• 11:06
  I mean TJ McConnell was a good one.
• 11:10
  You saw him defending last year in the playoffs, man.
• 11:13
  What are you what?
• 11:14
  Bro, he bro he was getting big, bro.
• 11:17
  Don't fucking, bro.
• 11:17
  Don't say TJ McConnell wasn't playing good defense.
• 11:20
  He was playing good, but they didn't have this nigga on J Doug.
• 11:24
  He would have got killed.
• 11:26
  They probably did.
• 11:26
  And why he put 40 on his ass.
• 11:29
  Bro, he didn't, bro.
• 11:30
  He went and he wasn't on Tatum.
• 11:32
  I can tell you that.
• 11:33
  Or wait, wait.
• 11:33
  Did they play yeah, they played, yeah.
• 11:35
  Wait, did they?
• 11:36
  New York or Indiana or not?
• 11:38
  No, they no, they played New York because New York beat the Celtics because that's when that's when Tatum got hurt.
• 11:44
  But I mean, they didn't really have New York, bro.
• 11:46
  New York.
• 11:47
  You got bridges and you got Ananobi.
• 11:49
  They're not really creating ultra.
• 11:50
  I mean, I got he wouldn't.
• 11:52
  Well, we go we can look up the stats, but I promise you, Brunson probably averaged about 25, 30.
• 11:56
  I mean, I was just saying, like, whenever whenever McConnell was coming off the menstrual, he was killed.
• 12:01
  I mean, or he's not known for B.
• 12:05
  I was just gonna say, or he wasn't going to be.
• 12:07
  Even in Philly, he wasn't known for he's known for like, yeah, good IQ, good passes, smart shots.
• 12:13
  But he played good D, yes.
• 12:15
  But I'm saying, like, it's in the passing lanes, bro.
• 12:17
  Yeah, but I mean like Caruso is a different animal, bro.
• 12:19
  Like this nigga, how do you think?
• 12:21
  Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying Caruso.
• 12:23
  No, I'm not I'm not trying to debate.
• 12:29
  And guarding one through four, bro.
• 12:31
  Like, and that's how but he had a a pleasant, like, surprise jump.
• 12:36
  When Caruso does it.
• 12:38
  It's a little more expected.
• 12:41
  Right, yeah, no, not yeah, exactly.
• 12:43
  Or less surprising.
• 12:44
  Yeah.
• 12:44
  You know what I'm saying?
• 12:45
  We see it.
• 12:45
  He did it when he played for LA when he fucking when they won a championship in Disneyland, or in fucking in Disneyland?
• 12:55
  When they fucking did it, and no disrespect that way, because I think LA would have still won that championship.
• 13:00
  This is just, you know, just saying LA still would have won a championship that year, regardless of the thing.
• 13:04
  AD, AD B and Healthy and LeBron, the way he's playing that year.
• 13:08
  They had Rondo, Caruso, Dwight, Howard, fucking Danny.
• 13:13
  Like they had a fucking squad.
• 13:14
  They was they weren't losing, to me, in my opinion, regardless.
• 13:18
  But anyways, um, fucking forgot what was going on with the uh before the Disneyland shit.
• 13:26
  Um I mean we were talking about it.
• 13:28
  Oh, Caruso.
• 13:29
  So yeah, like he did, he did it then um in the fucking in that series LA, and he did it last year.
• 13:37
  Once he got, you know, I swear once they made that fucking trade, um, I knew it.
• 13:42
  But San Antonio ultimately they played better.
• 13:46
  Their supporting cast played better.
• 13:49
  Um like I said, it was unfortunate we couldn't see J Dub, but it don't matter, injuries happen, and it's a part of the game.
• 13:56
  Yeah and and their others play good, the champagne's, the Vasselles, the fucking to me, Dylan Harper.
• 14:02
  Harper was Harper was to me key for them.
• 14:04
  Obviously, Wimby was best player off the bench.
• 14:06
  Yeah, Wemby was was obviously the reason why they won ultimately and and had a fantastic series.
• 14:13
  But that next other player I thought um played well just because also he's not known Castle, Castle.
• 14:22
  I got it.
• 14:23
  That's been Castleville.
• 14:24
  I got bro, but a turnover still, though.
• 14:25
  He turned the ball over a lot.
• 14:27
  He he's he wasn't a tradition, he's not a traditional point guard.
• 14:30
  You got bro, you got you got Fox, wasn't wasn't playing as productive as he is because I mean bro the fact that Fox came back as early as he did and was still playing, like he still played that whole that whole OKC series, and like like he like he wasn't playing bad, but he wasn't shooting as well as he usually would.
• 14:48
  Like he wasn't as active on defense, like I don't know, like he like he just will fuck like like like like a lot of the times Castle like Castle was the number two option next to Wemby.
• 14:59
  And like like all like although he was turning the ball over, he was still shooting almost like 47%, almost like almost like damn near 50, putting up eight assists and 18 points in his second year.
• 15:15
  Was his primary matchup not Shay?
• 15:18
  He was guarded, he was guarding Shay the entire time.
• 15:21
  And Shay was guarding Shay was guarding him though.
• 15:24
  Well they doubled a lot.
• 15:24
  So the fact I mean was every pick that LKC would have come up, they would double and get the hands out of Shay or get the ball out of Shay's hands.
• 15:32
  They see we just watched, they doubled a lot.
• 15:36
  The only game they didn't double that much was game seven, and you see what happened.
• 15:43
  He dropped 30, what at six, seven, whatever it was.
• 15:47
  Uh, because at that point they knew that the others went, you know what I mean?
• 15:52
  They the others didn't play good for OKC really from game four on after they won that last game.
• 16:00
  Their bench was playing good, but after after they tied it up.
• 16:03
  Yeah.
• 16:03
  Or no, after they went up 3-2.
• 16:05
  After they went up 3-2 and they just kind of thought that they they they could win one of those next.
• 16:10
  Yeah, they just San Antonio played harder once.
• 16:12
  They gotta win one more, man.
• 16:14
  Earlier they got San Antonio wanted it more.
• 16:18
  Not gonna lie.
• 16:19
  They they got the loose balls, they got the the offensive rebounds.
• 16:24
  San Antonio played harder and they wanted it more.
• 16:27
  And and the pick, and also, you know, why I said Harper's is like, you know, yes, this is Castle's second year, but it's Harper's first year.
• 16:34
  Right?
• 16:35
  He's a rookie, and also a lot of times when he would have come in, I mean, bro, I'm at slow the game down for San Antonio and and kind of like get them right.
• 16:47
  A lot of times when OKC would have those runs, um, and the fact that he shot as well as he did, and he's not known for shooting.
• 16:54
  Yeah, I mean he's more gonna range.
• 16:56
  I gotta say I got his stats, bro, because I think he missed.
• 16:59
  I think he missed one, or did he miss one's last series?
• 17:03
  Or he did he miss or he missed one game this series?
• 17:05
  Yeah, I think so.
• 17:06
  So I think one he was still putting up 12, 3, and then six rebounds as well.
• 17:09
  So I mean, he's not super, he's not super, I mean, he's the might be like 6'4, 6'5.
• 17:14
  Yeah.
• 17:16
  But I feel like he's not he's not super big.
• 17:18
  And the fact that he was fucking going up there getting six boards, and he was shooting 46% from the field and 35% from three.
• 17:26
  Like, I mean, like just what you were saying, he's not known for being as much of a shooter.
• 17:31
  But I mean, dude, and in game one as well, because I I was I looked at his steals when I looked at like just the whole series kind of box score, what everybody did, and I was expecting him to have more steals than he did because in game one, game one he had six.
• 17:46
  And then the rest of the the rest of the series, but he only averaged one over the whole series.
• 17:51
  But I know that he was I know that he was probably like just the like the rest, like I didn't look at how many steal like how many steals, blocks, whatever he was doing on defense in the other games, but I'm sure that he had somewhat of a presence.
• 18:04
  I mean, because like just going up against all the OKC shooters that they bring on the floor, right?
• 18:11
  Like, especially that bench.
• 18:12
  Like, because when he comes in is really when the bench is getting subbed in.
• 18:16
  So um the fact that they were that San Antonio was able to shut them down and like like win the last three games, three to one ultimately.
• 18:25
  Um, yeah, I mean, just kind of shows you what they're like what their others were doing a little bit more, just what you were saying.
• 18:32
  I mean, just Vassell, Harper, Champagny, I mean, Cornet was coming come in and give minutes.
• 18:38
  Um, fucking, I feel like there's somebody out.
• 18:41
  I mean, I I didn't even have Fox written down on here because all five of these other players put up more points than him.
• 18:47
  So it's like the fact that they had five other players putting up more points to D'Aaron Fox, like the ball better.
• 18:55
  Well, because I was gonna say like I feel like Vassell, I mean, Vassell and Hart or Vassell and Champagny, 33 and 40.
• 19:03
  Like Vassell was definitely shooting it solid from three in Champagne, put up like four for six or something in this.
• 19:09
  And that's how you know game seven.
• 19:11
  Another 20.
• 19:12
  Problem, you look at his and you look at that points for a game, and you see San Antonio's best two players are averaging andor playing like the best two players.
• 19:27
  Then you have the best two players over here.
• 19:31
  You have one who is playing 80%, 70% of the best of his abilities, and then ones who's playing 20% and chet averaging 10%.
• 19:41
  You got McCain and Caruso averaging more than Chet, which is this?
• 19:46
  I don't know, that's just that is I don't know, that shit can't be that's unacceptable.
• 19:51
  So I feel like in the so I feel like in this series, if you have an AJ Mitchell, if he's coming off the bench or starting, maybe because bro, because fucking McCain was starting game six and seven, so it's like he wouldn't have been starting if AJ Mitchell was playing.
• 20:08
  And if AJ Mitchell was no, I'm I'm not I'm not expecting it, bro, but he would have probably put up more points per game than Caruso.
• 20:18
  He would have put up more than 15 without J Dub.
• 20:21
  Without J Dub, bro, he would have had he would have been the number two option.
• 20:25
  He would have been the number two option.
• 20:27
  He played a whole game and shot terrible, bro.
• 20:29
  He didn't play good.
• 20:30
  He had four points.
• 20:32
  He shot like two for eight, two for nine.
• 20:33
  Bro, but bro, but then he played but you but you know how players want to come back after they play a game like that, but it was just unfortunate that he got hurt, man.
• 20:42
  He was getting off, he was getting off against the Lakers.
• 20:44
  Dude, yeah.
• 20:45
  I mean, a role, bro, so bro, so are you can't count on that, bro.
• 20:49
  Bro, I was gonna say, I mean, bro, the half half of OKC's team is role players, bro, but they can get off at any time.
• 20:56
  Like just kind of the way the AJ AJ Mitchell was, bro.
• 20:59
  So that's not I'm not I'm not ex I'm not expecting him to get off against them, bro.
• 21:05
  He got off against an LA people don't play defense.
• 21:10
  They had Marcus Smart on Shay the whole time, so that means they had Austin Reeves and fucking goddamn uh who else on it I can't even leave him drawing a blank here.
• 21:27
  Uh Reeves Smart, you know what I'm saying?
• 21:31
  Like you didn't have yeah, you had defense.
• 21:34
  LeBron has decent defense, but they gotta, you know, you gotta keep LeBron pretty much on everybody.
• 21:41
  And then who else what they didn't have no fucking no defensive stoppers at all other than Marcus Smart.
• 21:48
  Vanderbilt, but Vanderbilt didn't play that much.
• 21:51
  No, he they don't have no true like big man in in the paint to truly shot block her.
• 21:59
  You know what I mean like OKC or San Antonio does.
• 22:02
  No.
• 22:03
  So like they went against a cake ass team, and I guess you could say, I mean, who's really defending and fucking, like, they not, they like you were saying the whole time, OKC ain't played a defensive team like San Antonio.
• 22:16
  So that's why I don't think AJ Mitchell would have, yeah, he probably would average maybe 10 to 13.
• 22:21
  I don't think he would have averaged more than Caruso.
• 22:24
  I just don't, maybe about the same, but I don't think that would have made a difference.
• 22:27
  I think a J Dub would have made a difference.
• 22:30
  A player of that caliber, but not an AJ Mitchell.
• 22:33
  To count on him to consistently play like that is something that's not, don't happen a lot.
• 22:39
  Right?
• 22:40
  It has happened, but I just don't think that San Antonio's gonna let this motherfucker average 17, 18 points a game.
• 22:47
  And it don't matter, Spirit.
• 22:48
  Your second best player ain't playing good.
• 22:51
  When he needs to be.
• 22:52
  Against LA, he didn't need to be.
• 22:55
  He didn't have to play good.
• 22:56
  Chet was okay with averaging fucking 17 points a game.
• 23:00
  And that's still not to me unacceptable if you a player getting paid that much again and put in consideration with other great players and one of the better big man's and all this, you average a 17 to me just ain't cutting it.
• 23:13
  Who?
• 23:14
  Chet?
• 23:14
  Well, yeah, to me, in my opinion.
• 23:16
  But he was only averaging 10.
• 23:17
  No, no, no, I'm saying against LA, I think he averaged 17.
• 23:20
  But I'm saying, like, but they didn't need him to do much, so he got a pass, right?
• 23:24
  They didn't AJ Mitchell stepped up.
• 23:27
  But then when he came up against Wendy, right, when they needed him to fucking be good, he was 10 in the series, one for four game, game seven.
• 23:36
  And honestly, last year was kind of the same thing.
• 23:38
  Like Jada was healthy, Shea played good, and pretty much all the playoffs.
• 23:43
  So Chet kind of flew underneath the radar.
• 23:46
  Was good defensively, but offensively he wasn't.
• 23:51
  Exactly.
• 23:54
  They're a better team because they were healthy last year.
• 23:58
  Yeah.
• 23:58
  And, you know, they had a you could say they probably had a tougher path last year, you know, having to go against Denver, which Denver was a good ass fucking team.
• 24:08
  Yeah, but I feel like just bro, just going against the San Antonio team this year, man.
• 24:13
  Like, that's I mean, the fact that OK.
• 24:16
  Minnesota was good last year.
• 24:17
  Minnesota went against Minnesota with a healthy ant-man last year.
• 24:21
  I mean, bro, the fact that OKC lost all four games to San Antonio in the regular season, I know that know that it's different.
• 24:29
  I know that a lot of the time.
• 24:32
  I mean, I know that most of the-boys beat New York every time.
• 24:36
  But there's no way in hell that they would have swept him in the playoffs.
• 24:39
  There's no fucking way.
• 24:40
  We didn't get the chance to get the channel.
• 24:42
  You know that.
• 24:42
  You wouldn't even bet that, bro.
• 24:44
  You know damn well y'all wouldn't have swept them in the playoffs.
• 24:47
  No, we wouldn't know.
• 24:48
  We wouldn't.
• 24:48
  That's what I'm saying.
• 24:50
  No, no, I'm not I'm not I'm not saying we would have swept him, bro.
• 24:54
  So I'm not sure.
• 24:55
  No, no, so I'm just saying.
• 24:56
  They swept OKC in the regular season and went to a seven-game series.
• 25:01
  Down to the end to the end of the game.
• 25:02
  Bro, but overall, San Antonio, and they didn't have their second best clear San Antonio versus OKC this year, eight to three.
• 25:10
  Bro.
• 25:11
  Eight to three.
• 25:12
  Okay, but that's all I gotta say, bro.
• 25:16
  Eight to three.
• 25:16
  Eight to three, bro.
• 25:19
  San Antonio won eight times, OKC won three.
• 25:25
  No, four, no, four.
• 25:26
  No.
• 25:27
  And in those games, how many times did OKC have both Jup, Trett, and Shay on the court in those games?
• 25:35
  Then talk to me.
• 25:36
  Because that matters.
• 25:38
  I don't care what you're talking about.
• 25:39
  Like I'm saying, if he would have played, I'm talking about a different series, but like I said earlier, we are that's in the past.
• 25:46
  They didn't, it's injuries, but you know, AJ Mitchell was playing good.
• 25:53
  But I don't think that would have continued against San Antonio.
• 25:56
  I just don't.
• 25:58
  I think that defense is too good.
• 26:00
  Especially not having somebody like J Dub out there.
• 26:03
  That's gonna help him.
• 26:06
  Yeah, if you get J Dub out there, he's drawing attention.
• 26:08
  He can facilitate a little bit more.
• 26:10
  It takes a little bit of pressure off Shay.
• 26:12
  Um You can't double as much.
• 26:14
  Yeah You can't double.
• 26:15
  If you got you know what I'm saying, you got J Wind.
• 26:18
  You gotta play a little bit more straight up.
• 26:19
  You gotta you gotta know that everybody on that court and everybody on everybody on their offense can go get you a bucket.
• 26:26
  So yeah.
• 26:26
  That's why I say injuries, bro, it changed the whole scouting and scheme of how you play a team, bro, with one player not out there.
• 26:33
  It changes you double teaming, bots, and it does.
• 26:36
  It affects it.
• 26:37
  You know what I'm saying?
• 26:38
  But it's unfortunately it's a part of the game.
• 26:40
  Yeah.
• 26:42
  It does.
• 26:43
  But like I don't know.
• 26:43
  I'm just one of the ones I feel like, you know, maybe it's a lot of my teams always had injury issues, but I feel like injuries, you know, should be talked about.
• 26:51
  And like, it's always a what if.
• 26:53
  You really don't know.
• 26:54
  I mean, maybe San Antonio would have beat him even with them, but I just feel like the games would have been closer and it would have you know what I'm saying, it would have been a lot of.
• 27:04
  I mean, bro, just the fact that fucking game two through six or or nine points, fifteen points, twenty-one, thirteen, seventeen points was the was the scoring difference.
• 27:17
  Like in games two through seven, it was from nine to twenty like nine to twenty-one.
• 27:23
  Like, dude, fucking none of those games were close, and then game one was seven points, and game seven was eight points.
• 27:30
  So fucking the literally conference finals are fucking close, bro.
• 27:35
  Yeah, no, bro.
• 27:36
  So the the closest margin in any of the games in the conference finals was seven.
• 27:41
  Dude, like, and so they played seven plus eleven, and dude, fucking two of them.
• 27:49
  The only, or not three of them, three out of eleven were decided within single digits.
• 27:55
  Like all these Knicks.
• 27:58
  All the Knicks Cav games were 11, 13, 13, 37.
• 28:03
  Like, dude, that's f that's I mean, uh offensively, the the Knicks are putting on something special, so like I can't even really fucking say that it's not fun to watch that, but the Cavs just were fucking the Cavs just sucked.
• 28:19
  The Cavs are fucking bloody water, man.
• 28:22
  I mean, yeah, no, you're gonna be a good one.
• 28:25
  When they fucking lost that, lost that one night before they they should have won that.
• 28:30
  But I mean, but at but at that point, like New York fucking goes and beats and the next two get like that's what I don't I don't I don't think up by what 19 or 17, 18 was like five minutes to go in New York to go on and run eight day, bro.
• 28:46
  I think it was like I think it was like seven or eight.
• 28:47
  I I think it was a little bit more time than that.
• 28:49
  Okay.
• 28:50
  But yeah, I mean just yeah, I mean still the fact that they lost that lead.
• 28:54
  And then losing like demoralizing for sure.
• 28:58
  And then after that, I feel like, you know, especially to do it like that on someone else's home court.
• 29:04
  You know what I'm saying?
• 29:05
  Because like the series strategy, all that changes if Cleveland wins that game one, then they can afford to lose game two.
• 29:15
  You know what I mean?
• 29:15
  Versus like they go back home and they gotta they still got a little bit of confidence that they got one game.
• 29:21
  Right, versus beating a team the whole game, blowing it, blowing them out, and then they come back and win, and then now you're like, damn, we played pretty much our best basketball.
• 29:32
  And they still came back and won.
• 29:35
  Like, what do we do from here?
• 29:38
  I mean, dude, the fact that the Cap, bro, I mean, because the Cavs only put up 104 in that game one.
• 29:44
  So, like, they I mean they were they were holding, they were they were playing pretty good defense on the Knicks in game one.
• 29:50
  And then they just I mean, the last two, one twenty-one and one thirty, but I mean, I mean, even even game two, like, they just couldn't get their offense going.
• 30:00
  I mean, but look at that defense, but you think about it.
• 30:03
  The defense of New York, they gave up 104, gave up 93, gave a 108, but then gave up 93 later.
• 30:09
  Yeah, so they've they've they've been pretty locked down, bro.
• 30:12
  They they didn't they didn't let up more than 110 in any of those games.
• 30:16
  So Senate or so New York, right?
• 30:19
  New York 113, like 11, so they were giving they were letting up probably like 20 or like the point difference was like probably like 17-18, like just overall, just because of that landslide in the fourth game.
• 30:34
  But overall they were beating, like the first three games they were beating up by twelve, thirteen.
• 30:39
  And then in the in the OKC San Antonio is a bit more back and forth, also because I mean San Antonio that first game in OT, that fucking that Wemby game, that was just yeah unbelievable.
• 30:53
  Dylan Harper also played a great game.
• 30:56
  I can't remember his exact stat line, but I I mean I know he I know he filled it up all around.
• 31:02
  Um played a good offensive game.
• 31:04
  He also had six deals.
• 31:06
  But the fact that that was the closest game in the series, and then OKC came out, won the next two, nine and fifteen.
• 31:15
  Like but then San Antonio wins by wins by twenty-one and thirteen, so they come back and win two by double digits.
• 31:25
  Yeah, they or no, no, OKC won that.
• 31:29
  No, no, no, they split them.
• 31:30
  But bro, the fact that San Antonio came, responded with a 17, and then they closed it out in San Antonio.
• 31:38
  They were did so OKC OKC only won one of the games in San Antonio, and San Antonio was able to win two.
• 31:47
  So I mean they they showed that they can play in a hostile environment, and like it like just being in OKC, like like I mean, you know what it you know what it was to play in that arena the last two years, man.
• 32:03
  Those fans were going crazy.
• 32:06
  Um and the I mean the fact that they were the fact that it was also game one and game seven.
• 32:12
  Like two of the two of the most pivot like like I mean if you get to that point, the most pivotal games.
• 32:17
  Like I said before the others play better.
• 32:25
  They face the competition, man.
• 32:28
  Well, after after all it is, after after game three, I think you were saying it's done.
• 32:36
  It's done.
• 32:40
  I think I think after I think after I think after OKC I I think after OKC went up to one though, you were you were pretty confident.
• 32:48
  No, yeah, but because game six it went how I thought I said in the beginning I I said something B, and I was like, you can even ask him.
• 32:56
  David's, I don't know if you sound like bro, I'm trying to I said San Antonio was gonna win game one, okay see won game two and three, San Antonio went game four, OKC would game win game five, and I thought that they would close him out of game six.
• 33:10
  So I said I said six game series.
• 33:12
  I was wrong.
• 33:13
  San Antonio won and seven, so you know, but everything up until game six and seven, I mean I caught it.
• 33:21
  So I mean, but I just knew how it was gonna go.
• 33:23
  I knew that a lot of times that team that sweeps when they sweeps somebody to Rusty.
• 33:30
  San Antonio went six games, I think, with Minnesota, and you know, they only had what, three, four, there were two or three days of rest.
• 33:38
  OKC had almost a week at a rusty.
• 33:42
  San Antonio came on and won.
• 33:44
  Kind of what you've seen in New York and Cleveland that first game.
• 33:48
  You were I feel like hey, they swept um fucking Philly.
• 33:53
  Cleveland to each other seven games.
• 33:56
  They had played two days before that.
• 33:58
  They were seven game until the four.
• 34:04
  I was gonna yeah, they played a good game one until the four woke up and they woke up for the rest of the series.
• 34:09
  They did.
• 34:12
  The home crowd got behind them.
• 34:14
  The the last the last seven minutes of game one, and then game two closed and then closed out and then and then they're they're I mean their fans, their fans traveled to Cleveland's.
• 34:26
  And I mean, bro, just the fact that I mean just the just the fact their whole team is so together right now, and I feel like Mike, like, bro, I've I've I've been I've been saying this, bro.
• 34:37
  I feel like Mike Brown is a is a big reason that that they're that they're doing what they're doing right now.
• 34:43
  It's because I mean he's I mean he's he's all right.
• 34:47
  I mean he's gonna see.
• 34:50
  I think that he should be getting some flowers though, because he's he's he's he's he's got a New York team.
• 34:56
  He's got he's got a New York team, he's got a solid rotation.
• 34:59
  He's got people that are he's got solid people that are coming off the bench playing defense and offense, and his starting five is playing like as good as almost anybody's starting five in in the like like I mean like definitely in the playoffs.
• 35:13
  Like like their offense has like has clicking on another level.
• 35:18
  And and I mean I feel like that's like that's gotta be given somewhat like someone's a coaching, but it's that like definitely the players.
• 35:25
  Definitely the players are just hot, like just hot at the right time.
• 35:28
  But you but you you don't have that without a coach.
• 35:31
  Like because you look you look at up you look at them with Thibodeau, bro, and then they he like they're they're all playing, they're all playing a lot of minutes, they're all getting run down, and I mean it's yeah, granted they didn't have to come up against the Boston this year.
• 35:48
  Um, like kind of having like I wouldn't say Philly and Cleveland were both kind of easy, but defend defend defensively, defensively in the last few years.
• 35:59
  Boston is like, I mean, Boston has been the team to get past in the East.
• 36:03
  They got knocked, or yeah, and New York um Yeah, when went what game I what I can't remember, or did Tatum get hurt game seven, I think.
• 36:14
  I think it was late.
• 36:14
  I think it was late in the series, actually, when he got hurt.
• 36:16
  Yeah, so it was the last game.
• 36:18
  They beat him last year.
• 36:19
  I mean, they they got over that.
• 36:20
  They they did beat him.
• 36:21
  They just went against a hot Indiana team that was on a roll.
• 36:26
  You know, I mean, and New York had a dog fight game seven series against Detroit.
• 36:32
  Then they had a tough series against Boston, yeah, and then had to go against Indiana.
• 36:38
  Um, and Indiana had a good defensive team as well.
• 36:42
  This year, New York has kind of had a lot of five or six, four, and four.
• 36:48
  So, you know, they're fresh.
• 36:50
  And also, yeah, Tibbs is known for playing his players extreme minutes, which is crazy.
• 36:56
  But they're only one game farther.
• 36:58
  We gotta see, they gotta get it done first, right?
• 37:00
  Because if they don't get it done, then I guess you could say, yeah, Mike Brown maybe is better, but also they're looking at it.
• 37:09
  The fact that they the fact that they're gonna be able to do that.
• 37:10
  That's what they're looking at, bro.
• 37:11
  The fact that they've There's no guarantee that they can make it back for the next 15 fucking years.
• 37:16
  The fact that they're on an 11-game win streak, though, and they've played too though.
• 37:20
  Like we just swept I mean they did though.
• 37:27
  They went they went to the ball.
• 37:30
  Yeah, but they didn't think they won three in a row, though.
• 37:33
  They did win three in a row.
• 37:34
  So I feel like you can't smoke Boston being up and down, like have they how they've shown they only one year when they won it all two years ago, but before they said Miami.
• 37:46
  They only had Tatum back for a month.
• 37:48
  Even then, bro, I still think even if Tatum was healthy all year, they probably still could have could have could have lost that shit.
• 37:54
  They've played up and down.
• 37:57
  I don't think Boston was great, uh, a good enough big like I don't think they really have good enough big men to like like I mean, because they traded or they traded for Vucevic and they really and they had like Kato.
• 38:09
  They shoot too many threes, bro.
• 38:11
  Yeah, that's Boston's issue.
• 38:12
  They do shoot.
• 38:13
  Yeah, that's and they don't have two.
• 38:16
  And when they and when they had but when they had championship.
• 38:18
  When they had Christophs and Drew Holiday, it worked.
• 38:21
  So I'm saying when they got two point guard, they won a championship.
• 38:25
  And they also had a seven-foot stretch.
• 38:28
  But he didn't play.
• 38:28
  He played in the finals.
• 38:30
  He played in the finals.
• 38:31
  He played in the finals.
• 38:31
  He played in the playoffs a little bit that year.
• 38:35
  He only played, he missed 32 games in the playoffs that year.
• 38:39
  Think about that.
• 38:40
  They played that.
• 38:44
  He missed you know what?
• 38:46
  Because I just watched on the playoffs.
• 38:48
  I just watched on Peacock uh the other day because they have a final thing on there, and I actually watched rewatching.
• 38:55
  From when the Celtics won it?
• 38:56
  Yeah, when yeah, Grain won in Dallas and Celtics, and they said he missed the last 32 games.
• 39:02
  So that means he was the last 32 games, period.
• 39:05
  So he missed whatever it was they played in the playoffs in wherever.
• 39:10
  He didn't play for a go.
• 39:12
  So he got back for the finals only.
• 39:14
  Exactly.
• 39:15
  So he didn't play, yeah.
• 39:16
  But he was in great addition.
• 39:18
  It was the one without him, yeah, in my opinion.
• 39:20
  Dallas wouldn't even, I mean, they it was just Kyrie and Luca.
• 39:24
  I mean, you had you know PJ Washington and Gafford and and fucking Derek Lively.
• 39:30
  They were they did they did have like lively was a rookie, though.
• 39:33
  Yeah, exactly.
• 39:34
  Lively was rookie.
• 39:36
  Boston had Tatum, they had fucking Brown, they had person, just to add for singus, you know, they had Derek White, they had Holiday, they had Al Horfer.
• 39:45
  You know what I'm saying?
• 39:46
  Like they had like players like Boston, they were always, they kind of every year is kind of like they should win the championship, bro.
• 39:52
  I was gonna say, because like I mean, the last one or two years before that, when they were in the finals against the Warriors, they could have had that.
• 40:00
  That was that was a good one.
• 40:03
  And then the year after that, they didn't make that.
• 40:05
  They lost to Miami.
• 40:06
  They lost to Miami.
• 40:07
  They went down 3-0.
• 40:08
  Yeah, and then the year after that they lost in the championship.
• 40:12
  Or they won a championship, yeah.
• 40:14
  The year after they choked it away against uh Miami won the season.
• 40:20
  Or no, so or yeah, so Denver won that game.
• 40:24
  And then that was when they had Drew and Christophs and all that.
• 40:27
  So, but when they bro, but when they trade because they traded for Drew and Christoph that season after they lost, didn't they?
• 40:33
  Yeah.
• 40:33
  So it was like if if they didn't win that, then that was kind of like what else can you do?
• 40:38
  You've given them everything, and they had a healthy Tatum and Brown, and they won.
• 40:43
  And yeah, so it wasn't no surprise, but you know, Boston is like I said, they've always been known to give you games, man.
• 40:49
  They've done it, and and every year, Boston sees to kind of be the favorite in the East, right?
• 40:55
  Everybody is always kind of favoring Boston and pre every year.
• 40:59
  It's like that's the team like with Boston, you know what I'm saying?
• 41:02
  Boston, Boston, especially since Tatum Brown is.
• 41:04
  I feel like this was the first year that I didn't see.
• 41:07
  Because Tatum went there.
• 41:08
  Yeah.
• 41:09
  And they still fucked around and had the second best record in the East.
• 41:12
  Yeah.
• 41:12
  So, you know what I'm saying?
• 41:13
  Like that just shows you how great of an organization organization they've been.
• 41:17
  But they, to me, rosterized talent wise is a little off-subject, but they should have won more than one championship the last three, four years, if you ask me.
• 41:28
  As good as they should.
• 41:29
  I mean, they definitely should.
• 41:30
  And they've had both the Western on their side.
• 41:33
  That West is uh it's tough to get up.
• 41:34
  It's tough to get out of here.
• 41:36
  But they've only made it to the they they don't they made it out of the final, they made the finals twice.
• 41:40
  Twice, yeah, I guess.
• 41:41
  And they lost and they won and lost.
• 41:42
  So they're 50, they're one and one.
• 41:44
  I mean, no, so I I yeah, they definitely should have made the finals, probably outlet.
• 41:50
  No, because what was the year that they fucking choked, or was the year they choked against Miami?
• 41:55
  They should have made the final.
• 41:56
  They're a dead giveaway.
• 41:57
  Everybody is like, that was an AC.
• 42:00
  Miami had to go through the play-in tournament.
• 42:02
  If it if it if it was a Celtics Nuggets Finals, that would have that would have been so much of a like that's what that's what I'm saying, bro.
• 42:11
  That Nuggets Nuggets Heat, bro, wasn't that a 4-1?
• 42:14
  4-1 or yeah, I think 4-4.
• 42:16
  I'm pretty sure it was a 4-1.
• 42:18
  The Nuggets fucking handled.
• 42:21
  Exactly, yeah.
• 42:22
  But yeah, um I don't I don't think I don't think this finals is gonna be like that, though.
• 42:27
  No, New York is San Antonio, New York, man.
• 42:31
  It's gonna, bro, I mean, New York only was won two in their history, and they haven't been they haven't been to the finals since since like the 90s, so that's true.
• 42:43
  It's a it's gonna it's a it's a big it's gonna be a big two weeks for New York.
• 42:48
  And also, I saw that um do the world like I can't fuck now.
• 42:54
  I can't remember what the game is, bro.
• 42:56
  I think it's I think it's like the like if it if it was game six, I think it's game six, if um there's a game at like there's a game in New York and there's also a World Cup game.
• 43:08
  France is playing against Senegal.
• 43:11
  I think it's like World Cup anything.
• 43:14
  In so the so the so the so they're playing at MetLife.
• 43:18
  So the game's so the or no, so like the World Cup is all over the US, Mexico, Canada.
• 43:24
  But this game that France is playing is gonna be like during the day, I'm pretty sure.
• 43:30
  During the day at MetLife, and that's fucking Fran Francis Wemby's team, bro.
• 43:34
  So everybody's gonna like that shit's gonna be crazy, bro.
• 43:37
  I'm not gonna lie.
• 43:38
  Like, if it like if it if it if it if it if it go if it goes to six games, which I think it probably will, like I'm I'm hoping it does, to be honest.
• 43:48
  I think it will.
• 43:48
  I I I think we'll finally get fucking um maybe what we lost of the last fucking round, round and a half, as far as like good games.
• 43:57
  I think every game I'm I'm I know the first game probably would be a good game.
• 44:03
  You know what I'm saying?
• 44:03
  I'm hoping at least I feel like the first game would probably be the one that won't be as close just because the Knicks have had a bit of a rest and they're on an and they're on and they're on an 11-game heater and they know that they have like they know that they have home court for three and four.
• 44:22
  So it's like San Antonio does have home court.
• 44:29
  But kind of in a point.
• 44:31
  Like they can they can drop one.
• 44:33
  And if like if they win, if they win that game too, then they fucking go, then they go to New York and they know what's waiting for them there.
• 44:41
  They know they have eager fans that haven't been to a finals in Madison Square Garden in 25 years.
• 44:48
  Those motherfuckers are gonna be erupted.
• 44:53
  I mean Sharp maybe team game one.
• 44:58
  Um I'm I don't know if they're gonna win.
• 45:00
  I mean I mean I think they will.
• 45:01
  I think I think New York is gonna win game one.
• 45:04
  I think they're gonna come out picking up right where they left off at in that Cleveland series.
• 45:12
  Um I mean I'm I'm honestly hoping so, dude.
• 45:14
  I'm like, because ultimately ultimately, ultimately, ultimately, I want to see the wall streaks must come to an end and New York ain't one shit.
• 45:24
  Um I wanna I want to see some of years.
• 45:28
  I want to see some good basketball, bro.
• 45:29
  And I feel like this is a great matchup for it.
• 45:32
  Fucking San Antonio being as historic as a team as they are, New York, like it's like I feel like it's I feel like it's two great teams.
• 45:42
  I want to say two ages.
• 45:44
  It's no it's more of a guarantee of San Antonio returning to the finals at this point than it is for New York.
• 45:52
  Yeah, yeah.
• 45:52
  Because of you know, you know, Brunson being 27, 28, but Bridge 27, everybody on that team.
• 46:00
  I mean, bro, it wherever pushing close to 30.
• 46:02
  And you look at it's the opposite for you know, Champagne's he I don't know, I can't remember how old he is, but I feel like he's only like 26, 27.
• 46:12
  Yeah, and he's not gonna be.
• 46:30
  So I mean that's and that's you know, and then contracts and shit comes in.
• 46:35
  Oh yeah, contracts and shit coming in.
• 46:38
  It's easier to pay and keep younger players, in my opinion, than it is players like you know, what New York has.
• 46:48
  They're only gonna be able to keep that no that nucleus around for a little bit.
• 46:53
  I mean, bridge have bridges Anobi Towns and Brunson, all in that same and Hart.
• 47:00
  Well, yeah, I mean, when they part, he's not really gonna get a payday like the other four, what I don't think.
• 47:06
  Bridges or Ananobi left.
• 47:09
  Another team, what, bro?
• 47:10
  Another team would be.
• 47:13
  I think Ananobi could get a max contract.
• 47:16
  I think Towns can get a max contract.
• 47:18
  So bro, so I was I was also like, I've just been lit, like, listening to listening to podcasts and just fucking talk shows and shit.
• 47:25
  And I didn't realize the pay cut that Jalen Brunson was taking playing, like playing in New York.
• 47:31
  So he's like, so like his con like he's ri he's not I'd have to pull it up again, but like just to just to be for sure, but he's not getting paid, like, like, because I think he took a pay cut to get Mikkel Bridges to I I wouldn't be surprised if Mikkel Bridges was getting like like I mean took a pay cut for all of them.
• 47:53
  Yeah, no, he like.
• 47:55
  A player of that caliber is gonna know before fucking social media and all of them.
• 48:00
  And like they know, they're gonna come to you and be like, we got a chance to get such and such and such and just and just and just and the fact that it was Josh Hart and Mikhail Bridges both getting traded to New York while he was there, it's like, yeah, of course he wants that, bro.
• 48:15
  It's two of his college teammates that he won a championship with.
• 48:18
  And it's another like like they've they went, they they had a they had a college run together and they won that bitch.
• 48:25
  So it's like if they're on that team again, another year of chemistry.
• 48:28
  And then they and they have and they have cat.
• 48:31
  So it's like you have that you have that three, and then you have cat and fucking Ananobi.
• 48:38
  So it's like that that team is dangerous, man.
• 48:42
  And they they had a good, like, they only play a sand that's only.
• 48:46
  You got shaman, not somebody, I mean, but that motherfucker comes around and it's knocked out.
• 48:51
  Alvarado might be a little pest if he gets to.
• 49:01
  He's got a broken pinky.
• 49:02
  He's but he's playing.
• 49:03
  I read he's he is.
• 49:05
  I read he's he's he's playing game one.
• 49:09
  I don't know if he played.
• 49:10
  He'll probably break that bitch again, bro.
• 49:13
  I mean, but they got bodies.
• 49:15
  He'll probably get dunked on.
• 49:16
  They got bodies.
• 49:18
  He's gonna throw at Wendy like OKC did, but the difference is they have more of an offensive threat than OKC has.
• 49:27
  Because I would say it's about equal as far as on Brunson versus Shay, the impact that they have.
• 49:34
  Brunson is to me, you know what I'm saying, can score just like Shay can score.
• 49:40
  Yeah.
• 49:41
  And, you know what I mean?
• 49:42
  Like he's to me, he's a better three-point shooter.
• 49:45
  Yeah, he's a better three-point shooter, mid-range, a slight give and nod to Shay.
• 49:50
  Just a little bit, but you know what I'm saying, from three point or Brunson, but yeah, Brunson's a better three point should be.
• 49:57
  Bro, fucking Brunson was not shooting very great from three last years against the Cavs.
• 50:01
  So he's gonna have to.
• 50:01
  He wasn't gonna be able to do that.
• 50:02
  But he didn't shoot a lot of threes, though.
• 50:04
  If you look at his attempts, he didn't shoot, he didn't shoot.
• 50:07
  That's the thing about Brunson is Brunson don't, but when he is hitting, he's hitting everywhere.
• 50:12
  If he hitting that, if that three ball is hitting, it's over.
• 50:15
  You know what I'm saying?
• 50:16
  In my opinion, like that if his three is hitting, man, he's hitting from everywhere.
• 50:20
  But he's not gonna settle.
• 50:21
  And he, you know, he he's gonna he's a little bit better of a passer, I think.
• 50:26
  Um than Shea is.
• 50:28
  Shea passed a lot and average.
• 50:29
  He'll still get his head.
• 50:32
  Yeah, he was Brunson was still getting away.
• 50:33
  Brunson was getting double.
• 50:35
  You mean Brunson was not, you know, I mean Shea was getting double, so a lot of those assists was coming off of double teams and people being wide open for layups or shots.
• 50:43
  Brunson wasn't.
• 50:44
  So, you know, I just think Brunson's a little bit better passer.
• 50:47
  Shea's a better defender, but you know Bridges is a good defender, Hart is a good defender, Towns a good defender, Ananobi's a good defender, Brunson, Alvarado.
• 50:59
  They have multiple bodies they can throw at multiple players.
• 51:03
  Um and the same can be said about San Antonio.
• 51:05
  I know Vasel's a good defender, decent defender, Champinny's decent, Harper's a good defender, Castle's a good defender.
• 51:13
  We know Wemby's a great defender.
• 51:15
  Fox on his day is a fucking.
• 51:16
  And if he can get a little that ankle back right a little bit, I'll tell him what he can do.
• 51:21
  And you've got and you got Wemby, bro.
• 51:23
  So I think one of the biggest, one of the biggest question marks, I think, is gonna be how I mean how Cat and Towns, because I feel like Kat and OG are gonna be on Wemby, Wemby the most.
• 51:37
  Like Wemby is gonna have to guard OG and Kat the most for sure.
• 51:43
  Because I mean those I mean they I mean New York's two biggest players, I mean it's it's it's gonna be it's it's probably gonna be it's probably gonna be majority cat.
• 51:54
  But if I mean dude, if he I mean if he's shutting, I mean it's it's it's gonna be a different game, bro.
• 52:02
  If they're shutting down the paint, though.
• 52:03
  Hold on.
• 52:04
  Don't be surprised.
• 52:05
  As good as Hart is playing, um, and as much as he does, but he's also one of those players that is willing to do whatever for the team.
• 52:14
  Well, I wouldn't be surprised if game one, or maybe game two, like if San Antonio comes out and Wimby has his way, whatever, I wouldn't be surprised if at one of those, if not both, that they start Mitchell Robinson instead of Hart, where they have Brunson, Bridges, Annanobi, Cat, and Robinson.
• 52:36
  Just because of the size that they want to throw at him, you don't want to put you don't necessarily want to put talents in the room.
• 52:43
  San Anitonio doesn't have another big man that doesn't have to be.
• 52:46
  But the thing is, talents can hold to someone like Champagny.
• 52:49
  Because Champagny is not an active player as far as he's gonna sit on that set three-point line for most of the time and shoot.
• 52:56
  You don't, I don't, in my opinion, I don't know.
• 52:58
  Tat is cat or sorry, cat is already prone to fouls, anyways.
• 53:02
  The last thing you want to do, in my opinion, is to have him start off against Wimby.
• 53:07
  He's gonna fuck around and get two fouls in the first two minutes.
• 53:11
  Then that fucks you up.
• 53:12
  But I think if you start Mitchell Robinson, you can afford to have Robinson have a couple, then throw Kat and Aninoli on him if need to.
• 53:21
  But Kat is too valuable offensively and defensively to have him be in foul trouble.
• 53:26
  Especially offensive.
• 53:27
  Right.
• 53:28
  To have him in foul trouble in that series.
• 53:29
  So I think they may be better off having Hart come off the bench with, you know what I mean, whatever, you know what I'm saying, versus uh, and then you still got Miles Britt or Miles McBride who could drop a fucking 20 ball on you.
• 53:43
  Yeah, Miles McBride.
• 53:44
  You know what I mean?
• 53:44
  He can shoot that bitch so 10-15.
• 53:47
  I'll give him a 10-15 in the front.
• 53:49
  Yeah, 20.
• 53:51
  Maybe not 20, but a good 18.
• 53:54
  You know, close to 20.
• 53:55
  He may have knocked down three or four threes.
• 53:57
  Right, yeah.
• 53:57
  He might get out.
• 53:58
  I mean, he might do it.
• 53:59
  He might drop five, six on your ass like you did against Cleveland.
• 54:02
  But he had 25, I feel like, in one of them games.
• 54:05
  He that's that's when you a shooter like that, you feeling it, bro.
• 54:09
  It's you just keep shooting that motherfucker, especially if you're in New York.
• 54:12
  You're on a team that's on an 11-game win streak, so it's like you kind of just have the game.
• 54:16
  I don't think you understand.
• 54:17
  You kind of have to grow behind that.
• 54:18
  That first game in New York, when that crowd behind him, he probably come out and hit that first three.
• 54:24
  That's gonna be game three.
• 54:25
  Well, you know what I'm saying, but that's but that's you know, that role you notice in the NBA role players, um, or even in really in anything, like role players tend to, it's it's ones that show up on the road.
• 54:38
  Because in history, it shows that your role players tend to show up when you're at home, right?
• 54:45
  The comfortability, whatever, but it's the ones who show up like they did in game seven OKC that show up on the road.
• 54:52
  The champagne's, the Vacelles, that knock down them, cold-blooded threes and quiet back crowd.
• 54:58
  That is gonna be the determining factor.
• 55:00
  Yeah.
• 55:00
  And what it tends to be in a lot of, I mean, the the starters are gonna play like the starters usually most of the time.
• 55:06
  It's the bench and those, maybe not the bench, but just those other players in the starting lineup that have that 30-point game that's on a NORR.
• 55:14
  They got to get it.
• 55:14
  Like fucking man.
• 55:15
  Yeah, like old dude from Minnesota AR IO Dominus when he had a surprise in 40.
• 55:20
  Like, he like, where the fuck did this come from?
• 55:23
  Like, this motherfucker couldn't miss.
• 55:25
  He was throwing up wild shots and everything went in.
• 55:28
  You know what I'm saying?
• 55:29
  Like, like those are the to me, those moments.
• 55:31
  And then the teams where you have.
• 55:32
  And then, so I mean, bro, the biggest game that anybody had in this series, 42 and 22.
• 55:38
  And that was in game one.
• 55:41
  And so that's yeah.
• 55:42
  If that game goes another way, though, OKC, OKC, OKC.
• 55:47
  They're up 3-0.
• 55:48
  So if Wemby, so if Wemby doesn't have a fucking Wilt Chamberlain ass game, 44 and 22, bro.
• 55:56
  And that's what I was saying.
• 55:57
  That's that's that's like it's it's like that's like kind like I wouldn't say I won't say I won't say that's the reason they won, but if he wanted to do that, they would have went down 3-0.
• 56:07
  I tell you those things.
• 56:08
  They would have won it in game five.
• 56:10
  Like it would have been a 4-1 series if Wemby if Wemby didn't go off for the fucking like it might it might be the game of the playoffs.
• 56:19
  It could be, but we don't know because game plans change.
• 56:23
  You may be, you're more, you San Antonio would definitely be a black one.
• 56:26
  But then that was in OKC too.
• 56:28
  But I'm saying it's like OKC too, bro.
• 56:30
  Right, yeah.
• 56:31
  Like, but that wouldn't have been maybe it trades off.
• 56:34
  Maybe OKC wins that game one, but then game two, San Antonio is more hungry because they're desperate.
• 56:40
  They know we can't afford to go down O2.
• 56:44
  We gotta get one of these two home games, right?
• 56:48
  So I think it it it we don't know.
• 56:50
  Yes, that was a big game, but when you conserve that much, like like if they conserve that much energy, goes to OT, OKC wins.
• 56:58
  Or like it goes to even if it goes to the city.
• 57:01
  San Antonio, I think it'd be more hungry.
• 57:03
  I'm pretty sure Wemby played like 40 plus minute, or like damn near 40 minutes in that game one.
• 57:09
  So like they definitely conserved a lot of energy into the like I mean both teams.
• 57:14
  Yeah, no, yeah, but I mean I was gonna say I think Shea played 50 minutes in game one.
• 57:19
  So it's yeah, their bench didn't play that good in game one for OKC.
• 57:24
  Because we've seen, we look, only other good other only other player off their bench that played good, and Shea played medium or mid uh was Caruso, because that's when he had that 32.
• 57:35
  But Jay Dub, the only real game he really played where he wasn't on restriction, he had 27.
• 57:42
  Shea had like 22, Chet had fucking like eight.
• 57:46
  And then yeah, and the rest, nobody had like six, seven, nine.
• 57:50
  Like no one else, McCain didn't play good.
• 57:54
  Uh Case and Wallace played okay, but they didn't the other Jalen Williams didn't play that good.
• 57:59
  They didn't, they didn't get that.
• 58:00
  That was the only contribution they had off their bench was Caruso.
• 58:04
  Uh so like I said, I don't know.
• 58:07
  If things, strategy, everything changes when you win, your mindset is different, right?
• 58:12
  Your mindset, for sure.
• 58:14
  You know, San Antonio, regardless, I think one of those two games, you know, if they they probably wouldn't have been okay if they'd have lost game one.
• 58:22
  But the fact that if they would have, if OKC would have pulled it out in overtime, and you look at San Antonio looks and like, you know what, we in San Wein OKC and we damn near beat them.
• 58:32
  You know what I'm saying?
• 58:33
  We know we can beat them, right?
• 58:34
  We went into their house game one.
• 58:36
  It took all the overtime for it.
• 58:38
  Right, yeah.
• 58:39
  That's what I'm saying.
• 58:39
  But like you thinking in that locker room after game one, you like, okay, we just need to make a couple adjustments to win game two.
• 58:46
  We're saying if San Antonio loses that, that's San Antonio's mindset is like we had them.
• 58:51
  We know we can beat them.
• 58:52
  You know what I'm saying?
• 58:53
  Like, it's different from New York and Cleveland because San Antonio wasn't blowing OKC out.
• 58:59
  It was a trade, it was a back and forth game, pretty much all.
• 59:04
  No, no.
• 59:04
  I'm talking about game one specifically, right?
• 59:06
  No, I'm saying like how the difference in those two were because Cleveland was blowing out New York all game, and then they came back at the end.
• 59:16
  Yeah.
• 59:16
  San Antonio was only winning, it was a back and forth game all game.
• 59:20
  You know what I'm saying?
• 59:21
  Like, so it's a different mindset, you know, a different approach.
• 59:25
  San Antonio, they they handled business and took one of the two, you know.
• 59:28
  And I just think if OKC would have pulled out the first one, I think San Antonio would have looked that film and they would have been like, you know what?
• 59:34
  We know we need to fucking change.
• 59:37
  We they beat us by one, two, whatever it is, and in overtime.
• 59:40
  We can beat them game two.
• 59:42
  And they might have beat them game two.
• 59:44
  And then it'd have been one-on-one either way.
• 59:46
  You know, we don't know.
• 59:46
  But what we do know is is San Antonio responded in the right way.
• 59:51
  Um Cleveland did not.
• 59:53
  Cleveland had an opportunity, surprised a lot of people, you know, being up by as much as they were, couldn't get it done.
• 1:00:01
  Uh New York fucking wrapped him up in four.
• 1:00:04
  Um, and it really, you know, in my opinion, ain't much to talk about.
• 1:00:08
  They destroyed him every game after that.
• 1:00:10
  And yeah, I think New York and San Antonio is gonna be a fantastic series.
• 1:00:15
  Yeah, I mean, so yeah, I mean, wrapping up, wrapping up the OKC Spurs, Cleveland, Cleveland, New York.
• 1:00:23
  Uh, yeah.
• 1:00:24
  I mean, Spurs.
• 1:00:26
  Um, yeah, Spurs, Spurs next finalist.
• 1:00:28
  I'm definitely looking forward to it.
• 1:00:30
  Um something nobody thought was gonna fight.
• 1:00:34
  I didn't even think Spurs or next week for real.
• 1:00:37
  But yeah, I mean, next week, see y'all for the cast.
• 1:00:41
  Maybe this week, I'm decided.
• 1:00:43
  Yeah, we might pop out with two episodes.
• 1:00:46
  Not sure yet, but uh, either way it goes we're gonna see y'all soon.