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Handsome Tech Star Staggers Begging for Help, STABBED DEAD: Trial Underway · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: Remember the founder of cash app, Bob Lee. He was murdered,
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  Speaker 2: according to prosecutors, and now taking a very controversial center
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  Speaker 2: stage in the courtroom is his glamorous sister. But why,
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  Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for
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  Speaker 2: being with us. It seems like just yesterday. In a
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  Speaker 2: very disturbing nine on one call played in court, Lee, the
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  Speaker 2: cash app founder, is heard begging for help before his death.
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  Speaker 2: Help help, help, he says to the dispatcher who asks
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  Speaker 2: his location. He goes on, somebody stab me, help me,
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  Speaker 2: Please help me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm standing on the street.
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  Speaker 2: I need to get to the hospital, moaning in pain.
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  Speaker 2: You can hear him begging before sirens are heard in
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  Speaker 2: the background and the nine on one call abruptly ends.
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  Speaker 2: The dad of two could not be saved. He died.
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  Speaker 2: Prosecutors are now accusing the brother of the so called
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  Speaker 2: glamorous Casarmomini of carefully planning the knife attack and even
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  Speaker 2: taking a very unique knife from his sister's kitchen before
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  Speaker 2: driving Bob Lee to a secluded area and stabbing him dead. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I find it really interesting that a lot of outlets
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  Speaker 2: the headline is that this glam sister of cash app
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  Speaker 2: founder Bob Lee, debuts a new look. This is while
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  Speaker 2: she's being blamed for the fight that caused Bob Lee's murder. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: why is her outfit so important? Well, I can just
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  Speaker 2: tell you this. She showed up to court wearing a
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  Speaker 2: Pastelle blue silk Valentino dress with a bow at the
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  Speaker 2: neckline that sells for nearly six thousand dollars. Okay. She
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  Speaker 2: accessorized the look with large white framed glasses and a
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  Speaker 2: small white clutch. Now, her stunning new appearance is very
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  Speaker 2: different from the last time she was seen with darker
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  Speaker 2: hair and an all black outfit. Whatever, don't care what
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  Speaker 2: happened to the cash app founder.
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  Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen to our friends
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  Speaker 1: at in Mec.
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  Speaker 3: Police say Lee was attacked not far from the Bay
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  Speaker 3: Bridge at two thirty five am Tuesday. The area, thought
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  Speaker 3: to be a safe part of the city, is dotted
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  Speaker 3: with surveillance cameras. Before collapsing on a sidewalk, Lee screamed
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  Speaker 3: for help on his phone, saying someone stabbed me. According
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  Speaker 3: to surveillance footage and records reviewed by the San Francisco Standard.
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  Speaker 4: These images obtained by the Daily Mail Chouf tech exec
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  Speaker 4: Bobb Lee stumbling along Main Street in San Francisco's Rincon
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  Speaker 4: Hill neighborhood. You see him through the front glass doors
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  Speaker 4: of the port Side apartment building. He attempts to use
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  Speaker 4: the call box, then falls to the ground. Sources say
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  Speaker 4: he had two stab wounds in his upper left chest.
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  Speaker 4: He was on the ground for about ten seconds before
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  Speaker 4: standing up. We now know he was walking towards a
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  Speaker 4: police car minutes later. Lee died at the scene.
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  Speaker 5: We have some leads to follow up on. I can't
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  Speaker 5: disclose what those are now as early on an investigation,
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  Speaker 5: but I'm hopeful and I'm very confident.
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  Speaker 2: Can you imagine what this guy is going through. He
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  Speaker 2: has two gorgeous little girls he's raising.
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  Speaker 1: He has had an.
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  Speaker 2: Incredible rise and meteoric rise in the tech industry, as
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  Speaker 2: I said, a visionary.
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  Speaker 1: And in those moments.
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  Speaker 2: After he stabbed multiple times, he's staggering up and down
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  Speaker 2: the streets trying to get help, but there is no help.
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  Speaker 1: As you heard, this is.
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  Speaker 2: In the exclusive Runcon area there the city by the Bay,
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  Speaker 2: And I've thought about this over and over because my
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  Speaker 2: memories of this area are all good. We've got an
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  Speaker 2: all star panel to make sense of what we know
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 1: But first I want to go to.
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  Speaker 2: Chief investigative reporter for dailymail dot Com, Jen Smith, joining us, Jen,
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  Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. This has brought so
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  Speaker 2: much higher in scrutiny on the city that someone could
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  Speaker 2: be stabbed literally in playing view on Main Street.
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  Speaker 1: What happened?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah? Well, I mean everything you just said is right, Nancy,
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  Speaker 6: and it has brought so much added negative attention to
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  Speaker 6: San Francisco and to this particular neighborhood in San Francisco.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me about the neighborhood, because I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: That well Mission you know, Main Street near Mission Street,
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  Speaker 6: downtown exclusive. We're talking luxury apartment buildings, nice coffee shops, restaurants, stars.
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  Speaker 6: San Francisco we all know, over the last few years
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  Speaker 6: has received a lot of bad press about some of
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  Speaker 6: the not so night parts of the time. This isn't
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  Speaker 6: really one of them.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, now wait a minute, Jen, guys with me. And
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  Speaker 1: a lot of this case that we have.
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  Speaker 2: Learned is because of exclusive footage and photos obtained idailymail
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  Speaker 2: dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me, well, I.
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  Speaker 6: Think it's no secret that many major cities New York
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  Speaker 6: included San Francisco, another one has struggled with, you know,
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  Speaker 6: issues like homelessness and right, you know, rising crime, especially
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  Speaker 6: since COVID, a lot of things have changed. So this attack,
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  Speaker 6: a brutal attack in an area that was, like you described, beautiful,
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  Speaker 6: nice part of town. It really brought added fear to
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  Speaker 6: the community. You know, how could something like this happen
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  Speaker 6: seemingly at random to an innocent father of two.
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  Speaker 2: You know what's interesting about what Jensmith or Daily Mail
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  Speaker 2: is saying. At first, I want to go to Jarrett Farentino,
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  Speaker 2: homicide prosecutor out of Pennsylvania.
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  Speaker 1: Jared, thank you so much for being with.
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  Speaker 7: U's my pleasure.
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  Speaker 2: It's I can't stay that why it's disturbing so many
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  Speaker 2: people that this tech uru is stabbed at on Main Street.
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  Speaker 2: But I think what's shocking everyone so much is it's
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  Speaker 2: out of the norm. For instance, we say, oh, that's
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  Speaker 2: a high crime area. My husband told me the other
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  Speaker 2: day he was going to have a business lunch on
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  Speaker 2: I'll think of it's a really funny krog KRG Krog Street.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, don't cancel that, don't go there, and you
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  Speaker 2: go what is wrong with us? Said prosecuted so many
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  Speaker 2: aggravated assaults and homicide rapes on Crog Street and the
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  Speaker 2: Krog Street area of Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: Don't go there. That's crazy talk. Who set that up?
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  Speaker 2: Well, since the time I prosecuted, it's been all gentrified.
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  Speaker 2: There's all these cool coffee shops and restaurants. The point
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  Speaker 2: is when we hear that a murder occurred in a
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  Speaker 2: low or no crime area, everybody shocked. But crime is everywhere,
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  Speaker 2: Jarrett Fiorentino. That's what people don't understand, including this fancy area,
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  Speaker 2: high flute area of the city by the Bay.
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  Speaker 7: It is everywhere. There's a tolerance, nancy for regions where
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  Speaker 7: we call high crime areas, but it is always shocking
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  Speaker 7: when you see something so violent and it's stabbing. Nonetheless,
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  Speaker 7: this isn't a shooting. This is a very very close act,
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  Speaker 7: a very violent act, multiple stabbings. It's intentional, and the
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  Speaker 7: fear is that anyone in that community can now become
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  Speaker 7: a victim. And that's why it's so shocking.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I liked everything you just said. I cannot even
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  Speaker 2: argue with him. Okay, that part I don't like. But
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  Speaker 2: what you just said to doctor John Delatory, joining us
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  Speaker 2: licensed psychologist and mediator. He specializes in forensic psychology. You
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  Speaker 2: can find him on TikTok At Doctor John, Doctor John.
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  Speaker 2: What he just said about stabbing, and we talked about
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  Speaker 2: this in depth with the slang of those four beautiful
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  Speaker 2: vibrant University Idaho students.
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  Speaker 1: Stabbing and I learned this as a prosecutor.
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  Speaker 2: It's a whole different animal than shooting somebody at a
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  Speaker 2: distance of even three feet five feet ten feet twenty
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  Speaker 2: feet sniper shot job.
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  Speaker 1: By shooting that is.
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  Speaker 2: Impersonal, you're not up close and personal with your victim.
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  Speaker 2: Stabbing is a whole different psychopathy.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely is. It's one of those things where it's
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  Speaker 8: more intimate. Right, You get up close with someone and
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  Speaker 8: you can feel the life draining out of them as
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  Speaker 8: you continue to stab them. So this is someone who
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  Speaker 8: has a very personal vendetta against the victim, that's willing
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  Speaker 8: to walk up to someone and do this kind of action.
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  Speaker 8: Because it's also physically exhausting, So you've got to be
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  Speaker 8: determined to do this act.
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  Speaker 2: And there were multiple stab wounds here, either two or three.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there was no way this guy was going
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  Speaker 2: to walk away alive or brand joining me s you're
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  Speaker 2: What Jarrett Farentino just said that we quote tolerate crime
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  Speaker 2: in high crime areas.
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  Speaker 1: I don't tolerate crime anywhere. But we're not numb.
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  Speaker 2: But we're not what shocked when we hear about a murder,
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  Speaker 2: an agassault, a rape in a high crime area because
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  Speaker 2: we are conditioned.
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  Speaker 1: To believe that. But in a let me just say.
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  Speaker 2: Fancy, influential, prestigious area like this, we are shot because
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  Speaker 2: it never happens.
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  Speaker 9: That's correct, Nancy. And just like the prosecutor said, and
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  Speaker 9: I live in Las Vegas, and this sort of thing
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  Speaker 9: happens on the Las Vegas Strip, people are stunt. It's
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  Speaker 9: all over the news. If it happened on the West
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  Speaker 9: end of Las Vegas, where people buy drugs and things
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  Speaker 9: like that, not so much. The news coverage wouldn't be
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  Speaker 9: so much.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, what about this, you're talking about Vegas or brand
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  Speaker 2: That's correct, it's one thing. If somebody dies in the
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  Speaker 2: area where there's hookers in drugs, that life is no
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  Speaker 2: more or less important than if somebody stabbed in the
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  Speaker 2: lobby of the very expensive Wind hotel. That's correct, but
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  Speaker 2: we're more shocked because it is so rare in an
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  Speaker 2: area like the Wind lobby.
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  Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying.
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  Speaker 9: That's exactly what I'm saying. It's a wow factor. If
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  Speaker 9: someone gets stabbed while they're watching the Fountain show in
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  Speaker 9: front of the Blagio.
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  Speaker 1: You mean, like in Ocean's eleven.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, that could have been me.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that's psychology.
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that because I believe doctor John
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  Speaker 2: Delatory and everybody jump in.
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  Speaker 1: Do I have to tell you this.
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  Speaker 2: Is not high tea at Windsor Castle with King Charles.
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  Speaker 2: All right, jump in, let's brainstorm on this. It could
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  Speaker 2: have been me factor. I think that's why when people
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  Speaker 2: I noticed a lot during the Eliza Fletcher case. The
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  Speaker 2: young teacher out of Memphis, she had two or three children,
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  Speaker 2: a little, preschool aged children and younger. He went jogging
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  Speaker 2: at four am and she was brutally attacked, raped and
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  Speaker 2: murdered by a repeat offender that had an outstanding rape.
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  Speaker 1: He was out wandering free.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone said, Oh, why was she out jogging at four am?
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  Speaker 1: Why it's her fault? It was dark? Why was she out? Well,
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  Speaker 1: why shouldn't she be?
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  Speaker 2: And I think people say that not because they're ill
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  Speaker 2: spirited or mean hearted. I think that they like to think, well,
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  Speaker 2: that's never going to happen to me, and they continue
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  Speaker 2: to feel safe.
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  Speaker 1: Doctor delatory.
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  Speaker 2: It makes them feel they can go through life feeling safe,
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  Speaker 2: with blinders on to the.
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  Speaker 1: Fact that they're not safe. Just like this guy Bobbly
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  Speaker 1: was not safe.
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  Speaker 8: No, he wasn't safe, because it's the threat that you
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  Speaker 8: are never taken into account. So in some ways it's
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  Speaker 8: a threat that comes from someone in your inner circle,
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  Speaker 8: or sometimes the threat comes from a complete stranger because
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  Speaker 8: you're not prepared for something like that.
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  Speaker 10: There's a comfort.
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  Speaker 8: Nature when it comes to routine, and so the more
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  Speaker 8: often we're doing routine, the less likely we are to
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  Speaker 8: pay attention to our surroundings and to recognize when things
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  Speaker 8: might happen to us that are nefarious in nature. And
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  Speaker 8: so the more often we feel comfortable, the more we
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  Speaker 8: turn our blinders on. And that's what we can find
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  Speaker 8: ourselves very vulnerable.
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  Speaker 2: Well, put guys, let's move this forward. Take a listen
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  Speaker 2: to Chief Bill Scott. San Francisco p D.
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  Speaker 5: At approximately two am, San Francisco Police officers from Southern
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  Speaker 5: Station responded to the three hundred block of Main Street
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  Speaker 5: for a report of a stabbing.
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  Speaker 1: Officers arrived on scene and.
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  Speaker 5: Located the victim, later identified as forty three year old
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  Speaker 5: Robert Lee, suffering from an apparent stab wound. Officers rendered
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  Speaker 5: aid and Simon medics to the scene.
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  Speaker 9: Mister Lee was.
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  Speaker 5: Transported to Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital with life threatening
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  Speaker 5: injuries despite efforts by first responders and medical personnel.
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  Speaker 2: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, It's all coming to a
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  Speaker 2: head in a court of law. Cash app founder Bob
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  Speaker 2: Lee's ex wife, Christa was seen entering the courthouse wearing
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  Speaker 2: a somber black outfit. The defendant, Nima's attorneys have requested
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  Speaker 2: the ex wife, Christa, who call Nima's sister the quote
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  Speaker 2: horror of high tower hmm. The defense is asking that
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  Speaker 2: Bobbley's ex wife, Christa not be allowed in the courtroom
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  Speaker 2: when the glam sister of the defendant Khazar testifies. The
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  Speaker 2: defense claims that Christa Bobley's ex wife has been quote
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  Speaker 2: playing detective and has no intention right and has no
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  Speaker 2: intention of stopping. But why would that exclude her from
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  Speaker 2: the courtroom. Can we get back to the facts what happened,
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  Speaker 2: doctor Pandy? Thank you for taking time to be with us.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just imagining what Bob Lee. I mean, did he
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  Speaker 2: think about Dagne and Scout as two little girls in
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  Speaker 2: his last moments? I know he had time to think.
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  Speaker 2: You know, so many times we get a shooting wound
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  Speaker 2: gsw to the head or to the heart or the chest,
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  Speaker 2: and we know the person either dies immediately instantly or
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  Speaker 2: within you know, ten to fifteen seconds, the heart pumps out.
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  Speaker 1: All the blood in their body, they bleed out. In
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  Speaker 1: this case, bob Lee had time to suffer. He knew
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  Speaker 1: he was dying, and.
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  Speaker 2: There's video of him staggering up and down the streets
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  Speaker 2: asking for help. What would he have physically and mentally
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  Speaker 2: experienced in those moments, doctor Pandy?
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  Speaker 10: So, yes, you're right, he did have some time to think.
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  Speaker 10: If he was probably stabbed to the left chest or
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  Speaker 10: in that area, he's probably got instructed the lungs. As
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  Speaker 10: he's beating internally slowly, he's probably not thinking that he'll die,
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  Speaker 10: but he's not thinking that what's happening. But he's trying
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  Speaker 10: to see himself and trying to see that. You know
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  Speaker 10: what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: When your lungs begin to fill up with blood, Doctor
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  Speaker 2: Manisha Pandy, What does the victim experience?
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  Speaker 10: He's suffocate internally, so.
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  Speaker 2: Moment by moment, it's harder and harder, more difficult for
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  Speaker 2: you to breathe, and this guy continues walking. Jen Smith,
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  Speaker 2: Chief investigator reporter, dealmail dot Com. The video, doesn't it
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  Speaker 2: show him walking up to trying to get to a
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  Speaker 2: building and the wall like a lobby of a hotel
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  Speaker 2: or an apartment is glass, And he's going up there
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  Speaker 2: looking inside the glass, and he's staggering and bleeding, and.
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  Speaker 1: His lungs are filling up with blood.
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  Speaker 2: It's starting to come up in his mouth, in his
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  Speaker 2: nose when he takes a breath. Don't am I remembering
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  Speaker 2: correctly that there was a glass wall he staggered up to?
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  Speaker 1: There was?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he was staggering towards what we now know was
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  Speaker 6: an apartment building lobby. We don't know whether or not
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  Speaker 6: he knew where he was going, if he was looking
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  Speaker 6: for anyone in particular, it seems to me and I
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  Speaker 6: think to everyone else who watches a video, that this
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  Speaker 6: was a man who was just utterly desperate for help.
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  Speaker 6: He would have taken it from anyone. And it's pretty
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  Speaker 6: disturbing footage. He is really struggling to walk, he's holding
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  Speaker 6: onto his wounds. It looks like he's quite disorientated, which
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  Speaker 6: anyone would be given the circumstances on a man in
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  Speaker 6: the final moments of his life.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just imagining that.
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  Speaker 2: And of course, as you know, Jarrett Fiorentino, high profile prosecutor.
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  Speaker 11: The state, if this ever does go to a trial,
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  Speaker 11: is never allowed to put the jurors in the shoes
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  Speaker 11: of the victim.
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  Speaker 2: But you can't say things like one can only imagine
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  Speaker 2: what Lee was going through as he staggered, bleeding the
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  Speaker 2: blood by now going down his pants, coming out of
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  Speaker 2: his abdomen, and his lungs slowly backing up to.
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  Speaker 1: Where he can't take another breath.
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  Speaker 2: You can't say what if that was you, or what
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  Speaker 2: if that was your father or your brother or your son.
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  Speaker 2: You can't say that, but you can certainly strike a
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  Speaker 2: visual image and the hearts and minds of the gr
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  Speaker 2: rs isn't that true?
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely, Nancy, And you know the imagination can't help but
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  Speaker 7: run wild. You know, the footage is greeny, and when
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  Speaker 7: you know what's actually happening there, you start to fill
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  Speaker 7: in the details. You start to fill in, like you
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  Speaker 7: described the blood filling into his mouth and his nose,
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  Speaker 7: and the desperation you seese trying to use his phone.
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  Speaker 7: Some things you don't have to say to a jury.
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  Speaker 7: They're going to go there themselves, and you're going to say,
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  Speaker 7: as a human being, how can't you put yourself in
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  Speaker 7: those shoes? How can't you think about a time you
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  Speaker 7: couldn't breathe or needed help and was desperately seeking someone's assistance.
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  Speaker 7: And that really is such a powerful piece of evidence
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  Speaker 7: that will ultimately and hopefully be presented in a trial
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  Speaker 7: for this case.
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  Speaker 2: Doctor Manisha Pandy joining as she forensic pathologists for Forensic
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  Speaker 2: Pathologist LLC. Doctor Pandy, I remember the first time and
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  Speaker 2: I was into I guess this was my third or
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  Speaker 2: fourth homicide trial. I went to the medical exam and
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  Speaker 2: I said, what is that. I don't understand this blood
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  Speaker 2: pattern at all?
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  Speaker 1: And she said, I think she's the word aspirate. There
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  Speaker 1: was a.
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  Speaker 2: Fine mist of blood on something, and it's where the
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  Speaker 2: victim was breathing in and it.
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  Speaker 1: Would except with exhale a mist of blood.
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  Speaker 7: That's correct.
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  Speaker 9: That's what happens.
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  Speaker 10: Is you're getting stabbed in the lungs. Your lungs now
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  Speaker 10: start filling up with blood and then you're inhaling a
• 20:51
  Speaker 10: failing You'll start asperating and then you aspirate the blood
• 20:55
  Speaker 10: and then you can just you know, when you are
• 20:59
  Speaker 10: exit the fineness of blood and fluids come out along
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  Speaker 10: with your breath and you're really struggling.
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  Speaker 1: I understand.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: With this stabbing first occurred, there was so much media
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: surrounding it, and I.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Thought, what is this about?
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Is it because it's an expensive area, because stabbings happen
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: every day, and seemingly nobody cares.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Take a listen to our cut two. This is Miguel
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  Speaker 2: Almgure with NBC.
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  Speaker 3: The father of two, who had recently moved to Miami.
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  Speaker 3: Was more than a tech icon, his wife saying, Bob
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Lee was the most incredible and beautiful human being. He
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: was everyone's best friend. Police still have no suspects or
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: motive for the murder.
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  Speaker 9: It's gonna be.
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  Speaker 8: Hard to imagine a world where you can't call Bob
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: and say.
• 21:47
  Speaker 9: Hey, I had this problem I'm thinking through can you
• 21:49
  Speaker 9: help me through it?
• 21:50
  Speaker 8: He was an absolutely instrumental person in the tech industry.
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  Speaker 3: This morning, the high profile murder of a tech pioneer
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: killed while walking the streets in this city under increased
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: scrutiny for its safety.
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  Speaker 2: A visionary, a tech guru, and there's more. Take a
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: listener forensic crime online.
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  Speaker 12: He's been described as that person that everyone wants to
• 22:12
  Speaker 12: be around. Bob Lee's gregarious personality drew people in. Friends
• 22:16
  Speaker 12: described Lye as happy, go lucky and an enthusiastic ball
• 22:20
  Speaker 12: of energy. Lee had been a water polo star at
• 22:22
  Speaker 12: Lindberg High School outside of Saint Louis, but in college
• 22:26
  Speaker 12: his passions turned to technology. In fact, in the early
• 22:29
  Speaker 12: two thousands, while in college, Lee developed a solution to
• 22:32
  Speaker 12: the code red virus, which plagued computers worldwide. He wrote
• 22:36
  Speaker 12: and released a program that users could implement to deflect
• 22:39
  Speaker 12: the virus. Lee's muscle in the tech world grew. He
• 22:43
  Speaker 12: published an influential manual on the code language Java, then
• 22:47
  Speaker 12: worked with Google's AdWords. In twenty ten, Square recruited Lee
• 22:51
  Speaker 12: to become its CTO chief technical Officer, where he helped
• 22:55
  Speaker 12: build cash app. When Square went public in twenty fifteen, Lee,
• 22:59
  Speaker 12: the extrovert, social technical genius and father of two, became
• 23:03
  Speaker 12: a millionaire overnight.
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  Speaker 1: So this is the guy that created cash app.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: It's a P to P person to person transferring app
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: on your phone.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: This is the guy that created that kind of like Venmo.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: And there's more.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I want you to take a listen hour cut four
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: rob Nesbit Kron.
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  Speaker 13: Lee had a successful career in tech as a founder
• 23:25
  Speaker 13: of cash app, former chief technology officer of Square, and
• 23:28
  Speaker 13: chief product officer at mobile Coin. His death caused a
• 23:31
  Speaker 13: firestorm of posts on social media about violent crimes in
• 23:34
  Speaker 13: San Francisco. District Attorney Brooke Jenkins posted on Twitter Wednesday saying,
• 23:38
  Speaker 13: quote protecting public safety and holding violent repeat offenders accountable
• 23:42
  Speaker 13: as a top priority for my administration. The DA extended
• 23:46
  Speaker 13: her condolences to Lee's friends and family who are trying
• 23:48
  Speaker 13: to figure out the tough question of why.
• 23:51
  Speaker 14: I can't imagine anyone targeting Bob. He was not a
• 23:56
  Speaker 14: person who garnered any sort of animosity towards people anything.
• 24:00
  Speaker 14: He garnered respect and love, and people really enjoyed hanging
• 24:04
  Speaker 14: out with him.
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  Speaker 2: Joining right now is our own tech guru, Ben Levitan,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: telecommunications expert, joining.
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  Speaker 1: Us out of Raleigh. You can find him at Ben
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Levetan dot com. You know, Ben, I've admired you for
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: so long.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Because the way you think tech experts think differently than
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Shakespeare in literature, majors or lawyers.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: It's a whole different mindset.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: You see the world in code like a seer a
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: page full of numbers, and that makes sense to you,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: doesn't make sense to everybody else.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Is it a different mindset?
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: And how did somebody like Bobby rise to the very
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: top of his industry?
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  Speaker 15: It's really thanks for that, Andrew. That's the best intro
• 24:50
  Speaker 15: I've ever had. Nancy, thank you. The fact is, you know,
• 24:56
  Speaker 15: I've been an engineer for thirty years focused on the
• 24:59
  Speaker 15: cell phone network. We think very black and white. Things
• 25:01
  Speaker 15: either work or do not work. There's no gray area
• 25:05
  Speaker 15: with the engineers. But Bob Lee's magic or what made
• 25:11
  Speaker 15: him so successful, is he's able to understand what people want,
• 25:17
  Speaker 15: what non engineers understand. The best engineer is going to
• 25:20
  Speaker 15: be someone who understands what a non engineer wants to see.
• 25:26
  Speaker 15: That's why Apple's been so successful. It's very very simple.
• 25:30
  Speaker 15: Bob understood that people wanted a quick, easy way to
• 25:36
  Speaker 15: pay each other exchange money. The big thing that he
• 25:40
  Speaker 15: understood it was not everybody has a bank account. The
• 25:43
  Speaker 15: other big thing he understood is it had to be simple,
• 25:47
  Speaker 15: an instant, and that they wouldn't mind paying a small
• 25:51
  Speaker 15: percentage of that for him to facilitate the services. Ironically, Nancy,
• 25:57
  Speaker 15: in this case, the best evidence is going to come
• 26:00
  Speaker 15: off the cash app. Every time you make a transaction,
• 26:05
  Speaker 15: the cash aff is going to record your location, it's
• 26:08
  Speaker 15: going to record the two parties who were doing the transaction.
• 26:14
  Speaker 15: It's going to have their mobile phone numbers. There's going
• 26:17
  Speaker 15: to be so much evidence right there.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: So you just put that in a way that even I,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: a literature major, can understand. Okay, so who would do
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: this thing to attack Guru, a visionary note around the
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: world and a father of two, I might add take
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: a listen to our cud.
• 26:40
  Speaker 12: Just after two am Tuesday morning, Bob Lee called police.
• 26:43
  Speaker 12: He was near San Francisco's Bay Bridge. He reportedly yelled
• 26:47
  Speaker 12: into his phone, help someone stabbed me. Surveillance footage showed
• 26:51
  Speaker 12: Lee struggling to walk up a city street. He tried
• 26:54
  Speaker 12: to wave down a white cameray with its hazard lights on.
• 26:57
  Speaker 12: The camera drives away and Lee collapses on the ground.
• 27:00
  Speaker 12: Six minutes later, the police arrived and Lee is unconscious
• 27:03
  Speaker 12: and bleeding uncontrollably. Lee has been stabbed three times, once
• 27:08
  Speaker 12: in the hip and twice in the chest.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: So now a mystery car emerges, a car that speeds
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: away when.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Lee circles back to it. Why, here's more from.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Our friends at NBC authorities, calling it a planned and
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: deliberate attack.
• 27:25
  Speaker 16: There is evidence regarding motive that has been located in
• 27:29
  Speaker 16: this case, but certainly we have to make sure that
• 27:32
  Speaker 16: we look at every avenue.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: This video, obtained by the Dailymail dot Com, shows Lee
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: staggering away after the attack. Police later found a text
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: message from Kazar Moomenty on Lee's phone. Just wanted to
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: make sure you're doing okay because I know Nima came
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: way down hard on you and thank you for being
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: such a classy man handling it with class.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Love you Okay, Well, it looks like yet again Ben
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Levitat is right.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: The cops are combing through Lee's cell.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Phone crime stories with Nancy Grace, a suspected killer's glamorous
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: sister who was allegedly at sex parties with the cash
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: app founder Bob Lee before he was stabbed dead. The
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: sister taking center stage. How is that well? At the
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: middle millionaire cash app founder Bob Lee's murder trial is
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: the suspect the suspected killer's sister. She is a plastic
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: surgeon's wife who was reportedly involved in San Francisco's underground
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: party scene, which can often involve drugs and swinging sex.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: What is wrong with witch p What is wrong with
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: rich people? Why can't they just go home, have dinner
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: and watch TV and count their money?
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Whatever?
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Kazar Iliosnia, thirty eight, was allegedly partying and sleeping with
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Bob Lee when her brother, Nima Momini, stabbed Lee dead
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: on April fourth. Now, that night, Bob Lee was found
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: bleeding out begging for help in San Francisco to thirty
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: a m. Just a half an hour thirty minutes after
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: he was spotted leaving the sister kazar Iliosnia's really expensive
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: millennium tower home with brother Momini. Apparently the couple went
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: to such a party together the night of the murder.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Momini claims he was under the impression Lee had drugged
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: and raped his sister. Prosecutors argue, hmmm, is that motive
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: for murder? Momini, according to prosecutors, decided to get revenge
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: for his sister. Text messages have become the focus in
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: front of a jury. The glam sister Kazar calls her
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: own brother effing psychotic hours later in damning text messages. Now,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: prosecutors argue these text messages are a key part of
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: the evidence that will prove Momini is guilty. I've murdered one.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Now to ramp up the drama in the courtroom even more,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Momini's lawyers, as I mentioned, tried to have Bob Lee's
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: ex Christa barred from the courtroom after she called the
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Glam's sister Kazar the horror of high tower. That's a
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: reference to the apartment in a luxury high rise where
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: she lived.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Whatever irrelevant.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: What matters is who stabbed Bobbly multimillionaire cash app founder
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: did he was now? He had moved to Miami. His
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: two children, his two little girls were there. His ex
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: wife's there. They're raising the children together. His father very
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: very close relationship with the father who also moves to
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Miami to be with Bob Lee. He comes back to
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: San Francisco for a TIC conference.
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, all of that is exactly right. He lived
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: in the Bay Area, a suburb Actulega, north of San
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: Francisco for some time, and then late last year, I
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: think it was the fall of twenty twenty two, Bobbly
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: moved his whole family to Miami. That's including his ex
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: wife and his father.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Ben Levitan, telecommunications expert, joining us out of Raleigh. Ben,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: we learned that in this very ritzy area there are
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: cams everywhere, surveillance cameras, rings, all sorts of surveillance, and
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: that is how we get some of the video we
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: see of him staggering around for help as he's bleeding out.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: But you say, texts and pinging and following the trail
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: of where he was that night went out on the
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: town at the end of the day after the conference
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: let out, can give us so much more information. Now,
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I want to ask you about surveillance video cams. Do
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: they still tape over themselves like at the end of
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: seventy two hours like they did in the Chandra Levy case.
• 32:39
  Speaker 15: It depends on how much you're spending on this technology.
• 32:43
  Speaker 9: A lot of them do overright.
• 32:44
  Speaker 15: But memory is so cheap nowadays, and if you're just
• 32:48
  Speaker 15: recording low resolution like what we saw in the Daily
• 32:52
  Speaker 15: Mail video, that's very low resolution. You could keep that
• 32:55
  Speaker 15: for years. But you know what's critical, the twenty four
• 32:59
  Speaker 15: hours prime and everybody's going to have. But there's so
• 33:03
  Speaker 15: much more than video. Every time you walk around with
• 33:05
  Speaker 15: your phone, you're leaving digital footprints all over the place.
• 33:10
  Speaker 15: So certainly in that office lobby, they know everybody who
• 33:14
  Speaker 15: came near that building. So those would be perpetrators, those
• 33:19
  Speaker 15: would be suspects, and those would be with potential witnesses.
• 33:23
  Speaker 15: Digital evidence gives us three things. Who was at this,
• 33:27
  Speaker 15: who is at the scene, and those are potential suspects. Yes,
• 33:33
  Speaker 15: those are potential witnesses, and that's the most important thing.
• 33:36
  Speaker 15: People may have walked by and didn't even know what
• 33:40
  Speaker 15: was going on. Someone may have seen someone running away
• 33:44
  Speaker 15: from Bob Lee and thought nothing of it, and when
• 33:49
  Speaker 15: the police pull up their footprint, they say yes.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: And you know what, bean Leamontaine, we really see this
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: kind of evidence come to the forefront and the Idaho
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: student slaying because the prime Brian Coburger's phone shows him
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: in the area repeatedly and then the night of the murders,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: he conveniently turns off or puts into airplane motors phone
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: and then it picks up right after the murders around
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: four thirty AM, leaving the crime scene, and you can
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: follow his trail. So Belevitan telecommunications expert is right now
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: looking at the.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Victim, Bob Lee's texts and messages.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: A name emerges and boy does it take a listen
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: hour cut EIGHTCBS.
• 34:32
  Speaker 17: These haunting security camera images posted by London's Daily Mail
• 34:36
  Speaker 17: show the final moments of bob Le's life, and tonight
• 34:39
  Speaker 17: police say that brutal stabbing was not a random attack.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: We can confirm that mister Lee and miss Simomenti knew
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: each other.
• 34:47
  Speaker 17: San Francisco's police chief says thirty eight year old Nima Momeni,
• 34:50
  Speaker 17: who owns a tech company, was arrested this morning in
• 34:53
  Speaker 17: the suburb of Emeryville and booked on one charge of murder.
• 34:57
  Speaker 17: Officers confronted him with bullhorns. Law enforcement did not give
• 35:05
  Speaker 17: details or a motive for the killing.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Hold on Nima Momeni, a tech company owner, Well, that's.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: A bunch of bes, you know, a bunch of bs.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Jared Fiorentino homicide prosecutor.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: That's a technical legal term, but there's really no other
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: way to put it. I mean, I don't think they
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: have a Latin phrase for that. Lawyers can throw around
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: in the courtroom. But Jen Smith, he's not a successful
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: tech owner. Didn't he lie about graduating from Berkeley? I'm
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: talking about Momiani, He sure did.
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: He would love the world to think, or at one stage,
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: he would have loved the world to think that he
• 35:44
  Speaker 6: was this high flying tech executive. We're not talking about
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: the kind of success that Bobbly enjoyed though. That's not
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: had a small shop.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: He worked out of his apartment.
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: He worked out of his apartment. That's correct. He has
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: an IT domain name. I would say at best, that's
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: about this far that goes at the moment. That's what
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: we know. Anyway, he had lied about his college education.
• 36:07
  Speaker 10: He said he went to Berkeley.
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: Berkeley says he did not. And really the rest of
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: his life is somewhat of a mystery. But like you say,
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: he was working out of his apartment in Emeryville, which
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: is but five miles from where the attack took place.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: And there's nothing wrong with working out of your apartment.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Or home.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Many people do it, especially since COVID. But to lie
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: about it? Doctor John Delatory joining US psychologists and mediator
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: specializing in forensic psychology.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Why do people have to lie about it? Who cares?
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: If you work out of your place you're loft, Nobody cares?
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: But why lie about it? Nobody cares where you went
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: to college? Great, they may care for a minute when
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: you're trying to get your first job, but then after that,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: why lie about it?
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Doctor Delatory?
• 36:58
  Speaker 8: Yeah, because you have a high impression manager. Just because
• 37:01
  Speaker 8: the world doesn't look at you as being somewhat important,
• 37:04
  Speaker 8: that doesn't mean that you don't view the world as.
• 37:06
  Speaker 9: Needing you to be important.
• 37:08
  Speaker 8: So of course you're gonna lie, and of course you're
• 37:10
  Speaker 8: gonna embellish if you believe that the world is going
• 37:13
  Speaker 8: to judge you in ways you don't want to be judged.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: You know, I came off of red dirt road, drinking
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: well water. I don't know how somebody like me managed
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: to worm my way into Valdosta College and then Mercy
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: University and then NYU. It's a miracle. I've always been
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: amazed at people that lie about everything to do with
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: their background. But there's more at play here. Take a
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: listen now our cut seven. This is Brooke Jenkins, and
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: remember the da has endeared a real hailstorm because of
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: the crime in this area. This wants wonderful, beautiful area.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: It's now home. It's drenched in crime. And I don't
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: know why the mayor is bragging and crowing. Hey, this
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: wasn't a homeless person that committed the crime, Lady. They
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: committed a crime on Main Street and nobody would help
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: this guy. It's crime ridden. Listen to this.
• 38:12
  Speaker 16: While in some cases we do immediately have a suspect
• 38:16
  Speaker 16: that was not the situation.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Here, as a result of their hard work.
• 38:21
  Speaker 16: Mister Lee's killer has been identified, arrested, and now will
• 38:25
  Speaker 16: be brought to justice. I am here today to formally
• 38:28
  Speaker 16: announce the charges against mister Nima Momeni for the murder
• 38:33
  Speaker 16: of Bob Lee. The specific charges that we are filing
• 38:36
  Speaker 16: today include murder in violation of Penal Code Section one
• 38:40
  Speaker 16: eighty seven, as well as a special allegation also known
• 38:44
  Speaker 16: as an enhancement, alleging that this murder was committed with
• 38:48
  Speaker 16: a knife.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: I wonder why it's an enhancement if anybody on the
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: panel knows, Unless they're trying to curb knife violence. And
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: speaking of knives, Jen Smith, Teeth investigative reporter, dailymail dot Com,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: this guy Momenti has a history with knives. Explain that
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: little matter regarding a switch blade.
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he sure does. We know know that. In two
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: thousand and eleven, Nima Momenti was charged with attacking a
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: woman with a switch blade. And we see this came
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: to light after his arrest in the ball Blee case.
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: I know, speaking of the knife in this case, fancy,
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: we're not talking about a switch blade. We're talking about
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: kitchen knife, a large one. That is what police day
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: he used to attack ball Bleade.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Kitchen knife.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: But he before that had a history of trying to
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: sell an illegal switchblade.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: Is that correct?
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's absolutely right. This guy has a long history
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: with violence, clearly specifically associated with Knight.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Well, the evidence is largely electronic, and being Levitan is
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: right about that. And I know, Jarrett Farantino, you love
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: electronic evidence, digital evidence, because it doesn't lie.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: An I witness may have had bad.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Vision and left the glasses at home, not so a
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: digital information. Take listen now we're cutting nine from our
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: friends at NBC.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: The moments before, during, and after the murder of Bob
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Lee were recorded on surveillance cameras and help detectives track
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: down their suspect. According to court documents, the tech Titans
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: relationship with this woman, Becauzar Momenti may have been the
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: reason her brother Nima Momeni killed the forty three year old.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Is mister Lee's relationship with the suspect's sister a major
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: part of this case.
• 40:33
  Speaker 16: His relationship with the suspects sister is certainly the connection
• 40:37
  Speaker 16: it appears between the two and so that is something
• 40:40
  Speaker 16: that's very important to this investigation.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: In a Nutsheale Gentsmith A forty run out of time,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Why would Mamini kill Bob Lee over Mamini's sister. She's
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: married to a very successful, well known plastic surgeon in
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: that area.
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: Well, it's all now emerging. The friends who are close
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: to baub Lee, Kauzarmameny, the glamorous sister, they believed that
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: the pair were having a romantic relationship. And it gets
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: darker than that. There is a suggestion that Kauzarmahmeni was
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: using drugs. She had a drug problem that she was hiding.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: You mean the sister the sister Cauzarmuhmeny.
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: Yes, the sister. There is a suggestion that she had
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: a drug problem, she was hiding from her husband, and
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: that she was perhaps artying with Lee on the day
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: before the murder. Her brother, Nina, older than her, didn't
• 41:32
  Speaker 6: like obviously that she was engaging in this type of behavior. He,
• 41:37
  Speaker 6: we know, questioned Bob Lee about it hours before the stabbing.
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: He wanted to know the extent of their relationship, and
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: he wanted to know from Lee whether or not his
• 41:46
  Speaker 6: sister had been getting into anything that wasn't exactly proper,
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: should we say. Bob ly assures Nima Mumeni that his
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: sister Kazar, this woman that he is apparently having an
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: affair with, was not using drugs, that everything was trying.
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: That speaks to the text message that was discovered on
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: Bobby's phone from the sister. What happens after that, Nanci,
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: We're not exactly sure, but clearly it set Nima Momenti's
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: brother into a very violent rage.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Jarrett Fiorentino, homicide Prosecutor of Pennsylvania Number one. The state
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: never ever has to prove the motive under the law.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: It's a practical matter. The jury wants to hear what
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: the motive would be. And I'm very curious about this
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: whole the way this whole thing went down, because Jarrett Ferentino,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: it doesn't wash with me that these two had been
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: going to restaurants and bars or whatever since the tech
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: conference got out that day, you know, hitting the town
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, Momoni gets mad and
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: stabs him dead.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: That doesn't quite ring true to me.
• 42:54
  Speaker 7: Well, if you what's shaping up here is that it's
• 42:59
  Speaker 7: looking like he was playing the role of the protective
• 43:02
  Speaker 7: big brother. The speculation is that Lee may have been
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: involved in procuring some kind of narcotics for Tina is
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: her nickname, Nima's sister, and that may be what triggered him.
• 43:18
  Speaker 7: When he discovered that Lee had been involved in procuring
• 43:22
  Speaker 7: narcotics for Tina and he's playing the big brother. They
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: get into an argument, they being Nima and Bob, and
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: the stabbing ensues. But like you said, the fact that
• 43:35
  Speaker 7: they're out on the town having dinner, traveling in the
• 43:38
  Speaker 7: same social circles over the course of that evening doesn't
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: necessarily jive with it exploding into a violent conflict.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: You know, the old phrase Jerif Farantina. Sticks and stones
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: can break my bones, but words can never hurt me.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: The reality is, I don't care what they argued about.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: I don't care what Mamini thought. He stabbed this guy,
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: an unarmed victim, dead, and left him to stagger around
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: this exclusive area to die, begging.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: For help from a car and passers by. Nobody would
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: help him.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: He knew he was dying, he was spitting up blood.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: I don't care what they talked about. This is murder,
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: and it's murder one. What else do we know about
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: the so called Glam's sister, now at the middle of
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: a murder trial. Well, apparently she's been married to a
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: high profile plastic surgeon, very prominent who specializes in those jobs. Okay,
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: his name all across magazines for years, always talking glowingly
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: about his marriage and his wife. I don't know if
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: he knew she allegedly was attending drug and sex parties
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: that has not been proven. Those are just allegations, possibly
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: even a way to smear the woman. I don't know,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: But what I do know is Bob Lee was stabbed dead.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Eight as justice unfals. Goodbye friend,