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Trump endorses Paxton, SCOTUS speculation, and the SD Islamic Center shooting · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Tuesday editions the Hug You At Show. We
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  Speaker 1: the show. You never know. I want to begin the
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  Speaker 1: show with Noah Rofman because today is publication day of
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  Speaker 1: this book Blood and Progress, which is a fabulous book
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  Speaker 1: which I recommend every single person's audience go out and
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  Speaker 1: order from Amazon right now, get two copies, Get one
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  Speaker 1: for your lefty friends. I'm going to start counterintuitively what
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  Speaker 1: happened yesterday in San Diego. Three people were shot and
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  Speaker 1: killed at the Islamic Center of San Diego, and the
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  Speaker 1: two killers were teenagers. I believe you would classify them, Noah,
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  Speaker 1: as victims of disordered thinking. How would you classify them
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  Speaker 1: or as lamophobe? What would you say about them?
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  Speaker 2: Possibly Aslamophobes, possibly certainly disordered thinking, especially if they sought
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  Speaker 2: to achieve some sort of an outcome with this kind
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  Speaker 2: of violence. It's still early and we don't have a
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  Speaker 2: lot of information. The information we do have indicates that
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  Speaker 2: this was anti Islamic violence. That's the statement from San
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  Speaker 2: Diego police chief. There was definitely hate rhetoric involved in
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  Speaker 2: his words. They found some anti Islamic writing in the car,
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  Speaker 2: according to The New York Times, indications that the individuals.
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  Speaker 3: Who did this were suicidal.
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  Speaker 2: Indeed, they killed themselves afterwards, So there's clearly some The
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  Speaker 2: act itself is an assault on the American civic compact.
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  Speaker 2: It is a atrocity that should be regarded as such.
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  Speaker 2: But if it is right wing violence, it is a
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  Speaker 2: classic form of it. It's the sort of thing that
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  Speaker 2: the FBI would classify as racial or ethnically motivated. The
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  Speaker 2: domestic extremism which captures sort of classic right wing violence.
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  Speaker 2: I'd say the attempt to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer represents another
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  Speaker 2: similar form, sovereign citizen or militia movement violence. That's the
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  Speaker 2: sort of thing that I've described in this book in
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  Speaker 2: the very last chapter about the degree to which right
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  Speaker 2: wing violence is a prevalent phenomenon. It is very real,
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  Speaker 2: and my concern, after a lot of chapters of describing
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  Speaker 2: left wing violence, is the degree to which fanatical extremist
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  Speaker 2: right wing elements are beginning to mirror what was typically
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  Speaker 2: anarchistic violence, which captures the left end of the spectrum,
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  Speaker 2: with mobs, with affinity groups, with the sort of thing
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  Speaker 2: that we saw in Charlottesville, for example, the degree to
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  Speaker 2: which you're seeing black block tactics be normalized on the
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  Speaker 2: American right, the sort of thing that we would typically
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  Speaker 2: associate with the Marxian revolutionary left is now becoming flattened,
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  Speaker 2: and we're seeing it across the spectrum of extremist activity
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  Speaker 2: in the United States. So, while this event is definitely
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  Speaker 2: not in keeping with what I try to anathematize in
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  Speaker 2: this book, it is certainly consistent with the thesis which
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  Speaker 2: does not deny.
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  Speaker 3: The existence of right wing violence.
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  Speaker 2: Indeed, it finds left and right wing violence are reciprocal
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  Speaker 2: phenomena that feed on one another.
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  Speaker 1: And the reason I lead with it is because Noah's
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  Speaker 1: book Blood in Progress, and he needs to learn the
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  Speaker 1: lunch for you. You got to say the title of
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  Speaker 1: the book seven times in every segment, blood in Progress,
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  Speaker 1: or the listener won't understand Blood in Progress. They won't
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  Speaker 1: remember Blood in Progress. But it is not inconsistent with
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  Speaker 1: and indeed, no conservative will deny that violence has occurred
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  Speaker 1: on the right. It's just the theory of the book.
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  Speaker 1: And I am persuaded that the left is in love
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  Speaker 1: with it and has been forever. You open with Charlie
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  Speaker 1: Kirk's assassination and is Killer, saying I had enough of
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  Speaker 1: the hatred, and then you write to some of the
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  Speaker 1: reactions to this national trauma emanated from inside the ivy
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  Speaker 1: covered alls of academia, and that left wing violent is
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  Speaker 1: a present danger that will continue to percolate until aggressivisms
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  Speaker 1: more responsible proponents confront it and expel advocates of violence
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  Speaker 1: from their right. Okay, wishful thinking. Noah, what progressive exponent
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  Speaker 1: has ever denounced left wing violence and expelled it from
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  Speaker 1: their ranks in modern times?
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  Speaker 2: Well, they more responsible communicators than the democratic Left do
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  Speaker 2: condemn violence. It is the degree to which they equivocate
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  Speaker 2: after the condemnation that is the problem. There's a certain element,
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  Speaker 2: and it has been demonstrated in the book that it
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  Speaker 2: has been with us, especially pretty much forever, but especially
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  Speaker 2: since the late twenty tens.
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  Speaker 3: The Democratic Party.
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  Speaker 2: Routinely falls in love with movements that evince people power,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people on the street, whether or not
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  Speaker 2: they have any use for the Democratic Party.
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  Speaker 3: They did this with Occupy Wall Street.
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  Speaker 2: They did it with the twenty twenty movements that evolved
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  Speaker 2: into the twenty twenty riots, where they see some romantic
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  Speaker 2: expression of political zeal, whether it's well adjusted or not,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's in keeping with the American civic compact or not,
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  Speaker 2: elevate it it a lot more oxygen than it deserves,
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  Speaker 2: and then only later discovered that it was completely antisocial, maladjusted,
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  Speaker 2: latently kinetically violent, even and then only believedly do they
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  Speaker 2: regret their actions, but rarely do they confront the misconceptions
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  Speaker 2: that led them down that path in the first place.
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  Speaker 2: I'm hoping that this book will open a few eyes.
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  Speaker 1: This book blood in Progress, which I'm going to train
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  Speaker 1: you to say blood in progress again and again.
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  Speaker 3: In progress a cent in America.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Chapter one, Charnel House, Brian Thompson's kill. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to come back to that. George Floyd Riot's Chaz Chop
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  Speaker 1: in Seattle, defining violence down the quickening pace, the oldest hatred,
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  Speaker 1: which is anti Semitism, which has exploded in the United States.
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  Speaker 1: Your conclusion, our time is unique in some ways, but
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  Speaker 1: perhaps not in most. The left wing violence with which
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  Speaker 1: we are contending is not unprecedented. The United States is
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  Speaker 1: occasionally convulsed by periods of radical left violence. Ours is
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  Speaker 1: one such period, but it's not the first. Arguably, the
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  Speaker 1: first wave of organized, an accurate, an archistic and socialistic
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  Speaker 1: terror began over a century ago. We'll get to the
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  Speaker 1: chronic revolution tomorrow, but let's talk about the last five years,
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  Speaker 1: maybe even the last two years. It's gone off the charts.
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  Speaker 3: It is off the charts.
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  Speaker 2: The assassination attempts successful and attempted, the assaults on ICE
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  Speaker 2: and CBP facilities, one of which featured very sophisticated ambush tactics,
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  Speaker 2: small cell domestic terrorist tactics. The degree to which mob
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  Speaker 2: violence descends on American and major urban centers in places
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  Speaker 2: like Portland, Oregon and Los Angeles almost nightly. The stuff
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  Speaker 2: has become normalized. One of the what I think is
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  Speaker 2: the most smoking gun feature of that first chapter is
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  Speaker 2: it's in an excerpt that has been published by a
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  Speaker 2: National Review. If you're a subscriber, you can go read it,
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  Speaker 2: which describes the ways in which the databases that are
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  Speaker 2: used to support the notion that the American right is
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  Speaker 2: preternaturally violent. And anytime we have an event that is
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  Speaker 2: a demon demonstrable or suggestive of left wing violence, we
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  Speaker 2: hear constantly about how the real threat to the American
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  Speaker 2: domestic threat environment is the American right, and that increasingly
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  Speaker 2: conflicts with your own eyes. And if you drill into
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  Speaker 2: the databases you find really spurious data, the notion being
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  Speaker 2: that gang violence, intra family violence, prison violence constitutes right
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  Speaker 2: wing violence. Graffiti on the side of a church, a
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  Speaker 2: homeless man who shouts Rachel Epithets at a hotel year
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  Speaker 2: all right wing violence. Meanwhile, there's a study conducted by
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  Speaker 2: Insight produced for the Department of Homeland Security in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty one, in which the authors describe the extent to
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  Speaker 2: which researchers who study left wing violent extremism face social
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  Speaker 2: intimidation campaigns, social isolation, reputational damage, even the threat of
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  Speaker 2: physical retribution as a result of their work, to say
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  Speaker 2: nothing of the fact that there are participants in violent
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  Speaker 2: left wing movements, or are themselves the authors of the
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  Speaker 2: studies of a left wing violent extremism. It is a
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  Speaker 2: fatally subjective enterprise. I don't try to create my own
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  Speaker 2: databases to combat that. I explore these stories of individuals
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  Speaker 2: and their deranged motives individually and create the portrait, which
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  Speaker 2: I think is undeniable at this stage, that we are
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  Speaker 2: in the midst of a wave of left wing violence,
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  Speaker 2: akin to what we've experienced in similar periods of history,
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  Speaker 2: all of which seem to be forgotten, at least according
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  Speaker 2: to the scholars who have very recently begun to excavate
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  Speaker 2: those records from posterity.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, I've read Blood in Progress twice, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: going the second time through it with detailed notes. But
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  Speaker 1: the first time through it, I don't know that. I
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  Speaker 1: recall you noting the death threat, not to be confused
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  Speaker 1: with the act to injure death Threats are rather ubiquitous
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  Speaker 1: left right and center. There's at a congressman who hadn't
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  Speaker 1: gotten it there and anyone on TV who hadn't gotten it.
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  Speaker 1: I got my first one in nineteen ninety during the
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  Speaker 1: Iraq War. They roll off the back of most celebrities
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  Speaker 1: because they're ubiquitous. That's not what you're talking about. You're
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  Speaker 1: actually talking about people who are moved to action rual
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  Speaker 1: physical violence. Am I correct?
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  Speaker 2: You are correct, although I don't discount death threats, particularly
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  Speaker 2: in an environment like this, where the threats are coming
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  Speaker 2: at a quick pace, they're accelerating. There are more of
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  Speaker 2: them than typical, and the evidence of the environment suggests
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  Speaker 2: that there are a lot of people who are willing to.
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  Speaker 3: Act on these threats.
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  Speaker 2: And it is having an appreciable effect on American lawmakers.
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  Speaker 2: They admit it. People in there and people around them
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  Speaker 2: admit it. They say it's shaping their decision to participate
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  Speaker 2: in public life, it's affecting their votes.
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  Speaker 3: It's a very serious situation.
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  Speaker 2: We cannot say that threats are just dismissible summarily, because
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  Speaker 2: they are shaping our environment and affecting public policy in
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  Speaker 2: ways that are not desirous, not desirable.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but my point is that they are a constant
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  Speaker 1: and people, but now they're amplified by virtue of the
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  Speaker 1: web and by virtue of the fact that lawmakers talk
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  Speaker 1: about it last minute today, You'll be back tomorrow. We'll
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  Speaker 1: continue with chapter two on blood and progress. What's the
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  Speaker 1: reaction of the book? Are people kind of stunned when
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  Speaker 1: they see it all in one place, laid out well?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how many people have read it yet.
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  Speaker 2: There's been a couple of great reviews. The Washington Freebeacon
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  Speaker 2: has one, Tevy Troy and Civitas has another, and there
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  Speaker 2: was one on Goodreads from a gentleman who just finished
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  Speaker 2: reading it.
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  Speaker 3: So I have those are the people who have read it.
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  Speaker 2: What I've heard are individuals who are judging the book
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  Speaker 2: by its cover, the contention being that this is a
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  Speaker 2: book that maintains that the left is is uniquely violent,
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  Speaker 2: the right is not violent. Everything you know is true
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  Speaker 2: is false. And that's just judging a book by a cover.
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  Speaker 2: It's a child's argument, and it's not an argument that
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  Speaker 2: I make because I say, at the outset.
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  Speaker 3: Right wing violence is a real phenomenon.
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  Speaker 2: But we will never get our hands around this problem
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  Speaker 2: if we don't address it holistically.
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  Speaker 1: So go out and get it and go talk with
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  Speaker 1: Noah again. Tomorrow What in Progress by Noah Rothman and
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  Speaker 1: Amazon and bookstores. Now, thank you, Noah, touch you tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: talking about silos. So Josh, we'll have to do that
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  Speaker 4: Well, unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: I have so little, Hugh.
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  Speaker 5: and I was at It's been a long run.
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  Speaker 3: But I understand. You know, you're even Brown's guy.
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  Speaker 1: So I go in and I can sit down and
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  Speaker 1: Question number one apparently, first tell people what the no
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  Speaker 1: bad Idea Tour is?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, So the No Bad Idea Tour is something that
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  Speaker 5: Kamala Harris has come up with to try to be
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  Speaker 5: relevant when she is utterly not relevant to any of
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  Speaker 5: the discussion that's.
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  Speaker 4: Happening in national politics.
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  Speaker 5: And nobuch bad idea to her, as best as I
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  Speaker 5: can tell from what Kamala Harris herself has said, is
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  Speaker 5: nothing but horrific bad ideas. I mean, there wasn't a
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  Speaker 5: single redeemable idea she was talking about, adding Puerto Rico
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  Speaker 5: and DC estates packing the Supreme Court, being able to
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  Speaker 5: basically pull justices out of the Supreme Court if they
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  Speaker 5: if she disagrees with their decisions. I mean, like a
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  Speaker 5: hodgepodge of the worst stuff that has ever even been alleged.
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  Speaker 5: And she spent like the last three months of her
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  Speaker 5: to suggest these kind of ideas and now, these are
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  Speaker 5: only the good ideas, evidently.
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  Speaker 1: So I wanted to simply note I was listening to
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  Speaker 1: you as I did my trundle this morning, and I
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  Speaker 1: that what's going on? Do you have the Senate staff
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  Speaker 5: You are certainly going to pressure him to come back
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  Speaker 5: sooner than later.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's coming back pretty soon.
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  Speaker 4: But we expect him back imminently.
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  Speaker 1: I also would like to talk to you about the
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  Speaker 1: President's decision to endorse today Attorney General Ken Paxton, which
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  Speaker 1: I disagree with. I have endorsed John, and I know
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  Speaker 1: that the Ruthless podcast does not endorse. You have all
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  Speaker 1: comers except Tom Massey show up on your show, and
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  Speaker 1: maybe you would even let mister Massey come for right along.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but what does the president stand to
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  Speaker 1: gain from this? And boy, your old boss must have
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  Speaker 1: smoke coming out of his ears, because this has taking
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  Speaker 1: a layup and turning into a forty foot shot from
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  Speaker 1: mid quarter. Almost.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Look, I think it makes absolutely no sense in the world.
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  Speaker 5: I think that the failure to immediately endorse John Cornyn
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  Speaker 5: out of the gates probably provided the message that this
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  Speaker 5: administration wanted all along, which is, you know, we're not
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  Speaker 5: wild about John Cornyn.
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  Speaker 4: We'll let the chips fall where they may.
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  Speaker 5: But as this thing goes along, the problem is all
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  Speaker 5: these things start stacking up, and you can look at
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  Speaker 5: it a political side, which I eminently understand. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 5: Paxton was likely to win this runoff. It's very close,
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  Speaker 5: but he was likely to win this. And look, Trump
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  Speaker 5: loves a winter. He wants to be on that side. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: get the politics. The problem is the legislative side, which
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  Speaker 5: now you've got Bill Cassid, Tom Tillis, John Cornyan, Mitch McConnell,
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  Speaker 5: Jony Ernst and not to mention, and I think this
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  Speaker 5: is the most important point. Twenty four sitting Republican United
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  Speaker 5: States senators voted for John Cornyan to be the leader
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  Speaker 5: of the.
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  Speaker 4: Senate this congress.
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  Speaker 5: So look, if you're looking to try to persuade people
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  Speaker 5: to come on board in unison for your agenda one
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  Speaker 5: way or another. This is a pretty risky call. And
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  Speaker 5: this isn't ideological. This isn't you know, whether you're on
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  Speaker 5: board with MAGA, you're not on board. It's just simple
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  Speaker 5: math and strategy when it comes to things like he's
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  Speaker 5: trying to accomplish the reconciliation right now and presumably for
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  Speaker 5: the remainder of his term.
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  Speaker 1: And I point out there are three categories. People who
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  Speaker 1: oppose the president all the time, that's Massy, People who
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  Speaker 1: oppose the president some of the time that's Bill Cassidy.
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  Speaker 1: And then people who don't oppose the president but may
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  Speaker 1: not be the lot oft supporters of him. That's John
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  Speaker 1: Corny and John Thone. Those people you have to stay
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  Speaker 1: on good terms with because that's the whole Senate. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's not they are. I do, Yeah, you do. And
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  Speaker 1: I wonder who gave him this advice or is it
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  Speaker 1: just he likes a winner. By the way, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know that. I don't know if Paxston's gonna win. They've
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  Speaker 1: been hammering him, I mean hammering him down there.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well to the point where I think a general
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  Speaker 5: election is very much in question, and that, of course
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  Speaker 5: is the other side of the argument, which is how
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  Speaker 5: much do Republicans have to expand to try to keep
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  Speaker 5: a very safe state seat in Texas when you have
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  Speaker 5: very real liabilities in North Carolina, Iowa, Ohio and elsewhere
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  Speaker 5: that you're going to have to get and cobble together
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  Speaker 5: to a majority at one point. So look, I get it.
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  Speaker 5: I do think John Paxton. I think Paxton can win
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  Speaker 5: this race.
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  Speaker 1: I think.
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  Speaker 5: But the question is what makes it easier and what
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  Speaker 5: makes it harder, and what does the president stand to
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  Speaker 5: gain with an endorsement.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a little bit fo mixed on.
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  Speaker 5: That, particularly when you look at the short term legislative agenda.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, now I'm going to switch up to something we
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  Speaker 1: can agree on completely, and I hope the President does
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: it as well. Graham Platner is out of his mind.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: I am in Maine right now. I showed up at
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: my brother in law's door again and I said, I'm back.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I'm like Freddy Krueger. And he said again, I said, yeah,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I like it, and I'm back. And he's got to
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: put up with me for a while. There are plant
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: who signs all over crunchy Portland all over, crunchy Mid
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Coast all over. You know it gets read as you
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: get north, where Susan Collins is from. And so these
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: people are in favor of a Nazi who's got every
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: terrible thing ever you could post on the web post
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: and what's wrong with the Democrats?
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: I think if you were to create a fictional character
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: to try to make the depravity lowest functional intellect and
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: most controversial personal views.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: You couldn't come up with a.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: Better conglomeration of things than you have in Graham Planner.
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: If your goal was to try to completely eviscerate the
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: Democratic Party and what it is that they say that
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: they stand for and who it is that they say
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: that they're representing, you get them to try to endorse that.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: And that is what we see with Graham Planner. There
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: is no bottom of the barrel. If this is about
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: political power, they will endorse literally anything. And that you
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: look no further than the state of Maine.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: But you know what I love the most. You find
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Graham Platner's signs right next to the be nice signs
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: and in this house signs. That's what I like the
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: most about Maine. Graham Plattner right, be nice, and you
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: got to come up here, Josh, I think you're allowed.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: We're going to make an exception to let you up
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: here because I got another silo too to fire at you.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: We got to get that quote ready for the next
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: time you're back, because you introduced me to the AOC quote.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: She's not very smart, is she?
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Oh boy?
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: She is not all silos or firing to paraphrase what
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: she has to say.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: So when you're reading the prompter and it says not
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: silo but selvo and you read silo, don't you immediately
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: know that you made a mistake. If you're well educated,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: don't you immediately.
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: Know he knows.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: I don't think she does anything.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I really don't. I don't either what too many times,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: but she's got sparkle or as you said to Eric Riz,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I'm so glad he didn't know what Riz was. I'mad Eric,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I'm twenty years older. Good to see you, Josh Holmes,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: hope goes Timberwolf Coo. Well next year, say tune the
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Capital Killer, Welcome back America. I am Hugh Hewett. That
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: music means David Druckers and the House chief political correspondent
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: for the Dispatch, longtime political observer, I am today mystified,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: mister Drucker. I am a big fan of John Cornyn.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: He has supported the President on ninety nine percent of
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: the votes in the Senate, and yet the President endorsed
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Ken Paxton, a deeply flawed nominee who, if he wins,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: will win because the GOP spends one hundreds of millions
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: of dollars to get him over the line against mister
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Talla Rico, and he may not win. What is the
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: President thinking?
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: Well, the President often sort of grades on a let
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: me say, on a reverse curve, or.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: Let me put it this way, Hugh.
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: It's like when you're in college and the only thing
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: that counts or the midterms and the finals, and even
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: if you ace the quizzes, you can't you can't get
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: a C on the midterms and the finals, and you
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: do much better than that in the class. And I
• 20:42
  Speaker 7: think that, first of all, John Cornyn has occasionally been
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: critical of President Trump, and as the President said in
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: his endorsement message on Truth Social Horny's a good man,
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: but he wasn't always with me when accounted, and Ken
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: Paxson was with me all of the times when accounted,
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: and that really means a lot to President Trump. But
• 21:01
  Speaker 7: I think the thing beyond that that is probably swaying
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: the president is that there is some private polling that
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: exists that I'm aware of, that suggests that Ken Paxton
• 21:15
  Speaker 7: was going to win no matter who the President endorsed.
• 21:18
  Speaker 7: And I think the President might have been aware of
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: that and might have decided better to endorse the guy
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: who's going to win anyway. So there's not a chink
• 21:25
  Speaker 7: in my endorsement armor on May twenty sixth.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, as Josh Holme's just played out, he's already got
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Tom Tellison, Vil Cassidy and Jony Earnst. Who are They
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: really don't care about whether they make the president happy.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: He's got Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins. You have to
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: worry about their own unique constituency. If John Cornyan loses.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Did John Cornyan own anything for the last nine months
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: of his Senate career?
• 21:56
  Speaker 7: I mean, I guess it depends on how you look
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: at this.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: I don't really think so.
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: If we're going to look at it and purely transactional terms,
• 22:02
  Speaker 7: I think John Cornyn went out of his way to
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: abandon things he believed in or do things he normally
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: doesn't do in order to prove to the President that
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: he was going to be a loyal foot soldier and
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: to earn the endorsement, you know, naming.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: A highway after the president.
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: There's nothing wrong with it so far as it goes,
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: but it's not the sort of thing John Cornyn normally
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: does all of a sudden saying he was willing to
• 22:24
  Speaker 7: abandon the filibuster in order to get the Save Act,
• 22:27
  Speaker 7: the Save America Act. I think it's called over the
• 22:29
  Speaker 7: finish line in the Senate, which was never going to
• 22:31
  Speaker 7: happen no matter what something else John Cornyn has never
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: believed in doing, but was doing to try and satisfy
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: the President. And so I think I saw Josh Holmes' tweet,
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: and he knows the Senate as well as anyone, and
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: he's correct in that the Senate majority or for the
• 22:49
  Speaker 7: remainder of the year, is going to be much harder
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: for John fun to manage. I think that for some
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: of these members you just mentioned, they will do their
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: best not to cause Senator Fune too many problems because
• 23:01
  Speaker 7: they want him to remain as majority leader and not
• 23:03
  Speaker 7: get into too many fights with the president. But as
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: we've already seen with Tillis in particular, but I think
• 23:10
  Speaker 7: we'll begin to see with John, with Bill Cassidy and
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: maybe some others little by little, there are fewer reasons
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: for senators not to actually act like senators for a change.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Well, there's also if we lose the Senate, there's going
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: and that means we will have lost the House, which
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: means there will be two three impeachments coming, and that
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: gives Chuck Schumer control of the rules. I really cannot
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: figured this out at all, David, unless there is a
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: poll that shows ken Pack said I added by fifteen points.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: But you know, polling in Texas in a primary, in
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: a runoff and a special runoff, that's really a wild gamble,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: isn't it.
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: Well, I think that when you look at the history
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: of runoff elections and you look at the last time
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: we were in a situation like this in Texas, the
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: Ted Cruz versus David Dewhurst in twenty twelve. Even the
• 24:00
  Speaker 7: incumbent rolls into the runoff with a big lead, which
• 24:04
  Speaker 7: is what Deuhurst did against Cruise, the challenger usually wins,
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: and so you know, I think it's very conceivable that
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: Ken Paxton and I spent some time down in Texas
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: covering this primary back in January. I think it's very
• 24:16
  Speaker 7: conceivable that Ken Paxton had a crued a pretty substantial lead,
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: or at least one that was pretty pretty good enough
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: to win.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: I think the question is can a Democrat flip deep
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: red Texas or solidly read I should say Texas in
• 24:32
  Speaker 7: an environment like this, which is becoming very toxic for
• 24:35
  Speaker 7: the Republican Party. And I've been telling everybody that I'm
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: never going to predict that this happened, so one day
• 24:40
  Speaker 7: I'm just going to be wrong.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: But it is.
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: True that Ken Paxton is probably the most scandal plagued
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: politician I have ever covered, ye point blank. And this
• 24:52
  Speaker 7: is the sort of environment when weird things can happen,
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: which is why so many Republicans didn't want him to
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: be the nominee. But I would say finally that the
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: reason one of the reasons why Senator Cornyn is in
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: this position is just because there's a lot of as
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: with on the Democratic side, there's a lot of anti
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: income and fervor going around, and there's a lot of
• 25:13
  Speaker 7: desire for new leadership and there's just this desire as
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: well on the Republican side, for people who govern less
• 25:19
  Speaker 7: and fight more. And it was always it was very
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: indicative to me. I spoke to a Republican voter in
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: Texas back in January who said that, actually, you know,
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: when there's a Republican president, John Cornan's record is great.
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: It's when there's a Democrat in the White House that
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: he doesn't fight hard enough. And of course that's just
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: because John Cornan tries to govern with the conditions.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: As they are.
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: But for a lot of Republican voters, it's not what
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: they wanted. They wanted somebody who always and only fought,
• 25:45
  Speaker 7: and that's what they believe they will get with Ken Paxton.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, here's the dilemma. Talla Rica reminds me of one
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: person in particular. His name is John Ossoff. He's a
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: senator from Georgia. He shouldn't be a senator from Georgia,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: but he's a senator from Georgia because Trump got involved
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: the Georgia Senate primary and screwed it up six years ago,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: and John Ossoff was a blank slate upon which people
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: could write. And tall Rico's going to worry it's a
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: billion dollars now, I mean every act blue. There's actually
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: an argument there, right, tall Rico could win it just
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: as a giant semity Sam shot to the foot. That's
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: what I think. Last way to you, David drareccon.
• 26:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think you're wrong, But look, I think
• 26:24
  Speaker 7: for the president, loyalty to him and a party he
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: controls is sometimes more important than a majority. Even though
• 26:32
  Speaker 7: he says he's very concerned about being impeached again and
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: having his agenda stymied by a Democratic congressional majority. So
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: it's not totally surprising, and this is just what the
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: president does at times. I think, I actually, you know,
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: I hadn't thought about this. I like your ass off
• 26:46
  Speaker 7: comparison because stylistically, although there's a lot to go after
• 26:52
  Speaker 7: there in a state like Texas, with James tall Rico,
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: stylistically he's the sort of Democrat that at least is
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: going to make this race very competitive. And if he
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: you know, if he gives soft Republicans and independents who
• 27:05
  Speaker 7: tend to lean right philosophically a couple of bones, they
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: might say, you know, what, why am I going to
• 27:11
  Speaker 7: vote for this scandalplay guy. I can take this guy
• 27:14
  Speaker 7: and see how it.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Can and that trickles down to new maps and those
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: congressmen running in new districts. All of a sudden that
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Texas tradicric can be trumped the gamba I just do.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense to me.
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: I disagree with the other when I disagree with them.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I got straight about this. Hey, Texas, vote for John Cornyn.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: You're the right thing and the smart thing. David Director, Thanks,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: He'll be right back to Andrew Hewett. Bethany Mandel is
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: the co host of the moom Wars dot substact dot com.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Always a welcome guest here, Bethany, Good afternoon. The endorsement
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: of President Trump of Ken Paxton in Texas triggered a
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: number of different things. Dismay among people like me, like
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: John Cornyan, but also the suggestion that that might push
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Justice Alito to retire, because it makes the likelihood of
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: losing the Senate greater, not by a lot, but by
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: some So if Justice Alito steps down, what do you
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: want in a nominee? Oh?
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: I mean President Trump is particularly good at choosing Supreme
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: Court justices, unlike his Republican predecessors. There's been some interesting
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: mentions of people like Ted Cruz. I'm personally not in
• 28:29
  Speaker 8: favor of that. I don't want to lose him out
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: of the Senate, being interesting to see who he would
• 28:37
  Speaker 8: have on the bench, But there's a lot of options.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Have you heard of David Strass I have not. He's
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: an eight circuit judge, very very smart, very very original,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: It's fifty one years old. He is a temple going
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: grandson of Holocaust survivors. I don't play identity politics. I
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: like originalists, but if you're going to replace Sam Alito,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: he's a Clarence Thomas Clerk by the way, as well,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: and he is very well known in federal society circles,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: and he's very originalists, very conservative. But I go back
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: to the fact that he is a temple attending grandson
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: of Holocaust survivor. I like that message in this environment,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: do you.
• 29:22
  Speaker 8: I think that would certainly redeem the Jews, considering the
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: Jews that we've had on the Supreme Court in the
• 29:27
  Speaker 8: last couple decades, So if we could have a good
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: Jew up there, that would certainly be a good pr
• 29:33
  Speaker 8: for my people.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Would it also help accelerate the realignment of Jewish America
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: towards the Republican party. If a Republican president nominated a
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: a temple attending Jew.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: That's interesting.
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: I mean, I think that there is a realignment. There
• 29:53
  Speaker 8: was a great line that was quoted actually in the
• 29:56
  Speaker 8: commentary podcast from the late Abe Foxman from the al
• 30:00
  Speaker 8: and he said, my constituency is the Jews who care.
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: And I think increasingly the Jews who care are leaning
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: rightward because they see where their friends are. They see,
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: you know, one side are doing you know, a national
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: Shabbat which was this past week, and the other side
• 30:15
  Speaker 8: are nominating people like Zoron Mom Donnie. So I think
• 30:19
  Speaker 8: it would definitely help. But there's there's so many Jews
• 30:23
  Speaker 8: for whom Judaism does not matter and there is no
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: swaying them.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: All right, So I just put that in your head.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: David strass s t r A. As he's on the
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: eighth circle up in Minnesota, I'd be like confirmed. I think,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: why do you think the president picked John Cornyn's opponent,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Ken Paxton instead of good John Cornyn, conservative John Cornan
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: electable John Cornyn versus scandal plagued plagued Ken Paxton.
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: There had to have been stuff behind the scenes. There
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: had to have been conversations. I know that both of
• 30:53
  Speaker 8: them were really, you know, going to the president and
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: trying to get his ear as much as possible. I
• 30:58
  Speaker 8: think it's interesting that it came today. I don't know
• 31:02
  Speaker 8: how much difference it makes, but you know, both sides
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: have been trying to sway him for some time, and
• 31:07
  Speaker 8: I guess someone got his ear at the right moment.
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: That's my best hunch.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: And it's a half endorsement because he's now John Corn's
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: a good guy. He's just a little slow in supporting me,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: but he's a good guy. So it's not like Bill Cassidy.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: It's not like the Indiana Center. Now let's talk about
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Tom Massey, and let's remind people in Kentucky they can
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: go vote against Tom Massey. Crawled through a broken glass.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: If you have to to vote against Tom Massey gives
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: he's a jerk. Yep. Do you think he's going to
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: be thrown out?
• 31:37
  Speaker 9: I do.
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: One of the most disturbing examples that I saw from
• 31:40
  Speaker 8: Tom Massey. I've seen a lot of libertarians and conservatives
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: defending him and saying.
• 31:45
  Speaker 10: You know, he's just against Israel.
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: He's not an anti Summit there's a rabbi in Kentucky
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: who is just outside of his district, who has congregants
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: inside Massy's district, and he had contacted Massey to talk
• 31:59
  Speaker 8: to him about out this situation in prisons and nothing
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: to do with Israel, and Massey refused to meet with
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: him because he thought it was you know, I don't
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: want to interfere with a foreign government. He just didn't
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: want to talk to a Jew, and he didn't want
• 32:13
  Speaker 8: to talk to a religious Jew at that. So I
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: just want people to keep in mind that we have
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: a absolute bigot in Congress serving as a Republican and
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: we shouldn't and we should no longer.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Good Well said. Now, I want to play for you
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: AOC in Montgomery, Alabama this weekend, cut number fifteen.
• 32:31
  Speaker 10: They're afraid of us coming together, They're afraid of us
• 32:35
  Speaker 10: protecting one another.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Alabama is the crucible. Georgia is the crucible.
• 32:41
  Speaker 8: Tennessee, Louisiana, Mississippi is the crucible.
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: So if you are not from.
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: Here, it is time to pull up, because.
• 32:50
  Speaker 10: What they thought was the final blow is actually just
• 32:54
  Speaker 10: the opening silo.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: All right, So, Bethany, what is an opening silo? I
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: think she meant opening.
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: Slaterly, I was sitting here panicked hoping that you didn't
• 33:09
  Speaker 8: ask me what she was saying because I had no idea,
• 33:12
  Speaker 8: and my wheels are turning. I'm like, what could she
• 33:16
  Speaker 8: possibly be saying? How can I respond to that? Because
• 33:19
  Speaker 8: I don't understand what she just said.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: I think if I can translate, she meant to say,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: I'm down here to begin to get New Yorkers to
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: move to Alabama and bring my progressive politics down here.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Good luck with that. That's not going to work. And
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: it was her opening silo, which is I guess an ABM.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: But she doesn't know the difference between silo and salvo,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: and so she's just not very bright.
• 33:44
  Speaker 8: Is she.
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: She's not.
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: No, it's really painful.
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: One of the things that I love about the conversations
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: that we're starting to have about twenty twenty eight is
• 33:55
  Speaker 8: the bench for Republicans is so deep and so fierce,
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: and then you look to the left and you're like, well,
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: they could bring back Kamala. There's Gavin Newsome, there's the
• 34:07
  Speaker 8: guy who like trains what was his name again, Peter Oh,
• 34:13
  Speaker 8: Pete is a trained guy.
• 34:15
  Speaker 10: Yeah, Pete Bootage, Dge Pete train guy, the lady who
• 34:19
  Speaker 10: lost who has never won a primary, and that one
• 34:23
  Speaker 10: who can't operate two sentences together.
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: I mean, I like those odds personally.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Amy Klobashar, she'd throws things. But there's Amy Globa Shark,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: and there could be.
• 34:35
  Speaker 8: And there's also the woman in California who dumps mashed
• 34:38
  Speaker 8: potatoes on her husband's head.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: There's Katie Porter. That's that's Dwayne's favorite candidate. Bethany, thank
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: you so much. Bethany Shondark can be followed on exit
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Bethany Shondark. She'll change it someday to Bethany Mandela and
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: then it'll be easier on everyone. But it's at Bethany Shondark,
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  Speaker 1: and we all invite to go to the mom Wars
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  Speaker 1: dot subject dot com. Party is The Washington Examiner, chief
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: political correspondent, writes a daily column also a Fox News
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: political contributor Byron I am a Republican. I have no
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: shame in saying I want to hold on to the
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Republican majority in the Senate because I want to nominate
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: and have confirmed judges by the President and the Senate.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: And I'm afraid the President's moved today to endorse Ken
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Paxson imperils the majority. Do you agree with me?
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: Well, I think it's a reasonable fear, absolutely that the
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: President has kind of done a favor for tall Rico
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: and the Democrats in Texas. Now, when you look, I
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: mean you have to looked at some recent polling between
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: tall Rico and Cornan, and tall Rico and Paxton, they
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: were pretty much the same. So Trump may make the
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: argument that there wouldn't have been this greater chance for
• 35:57
  Speaker 6: Cornan to win as you're probably predict what you said.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: On but I don't know.
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: I can't say.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: My second fear is Texas has new maps for the
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: congressional districts if they end up running a deeply flawed
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: candidate plagued by past allegations of corruption and his divorce,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: as Ken Paxton will be, and Act Blue raises a
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: billion dollars to spend against him in every market, they're
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: also hurting every Republican in every CD they can lose
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: the House because of this. Do you think they talked
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: it through with anybody?
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: What do you think?
• 36:34
  Speaker 8: No?
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: I don't think so either. Look, I think it's what
• 36:41
  Speaker 6: President wanted to do. I think he's probably wanted to
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: do this for quite a while, held off for a
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: good bit. So, you know, I've been thinking about the
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: midterms the last couple of days. That's all I've been
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: thinking about. And you know, I think Trump sees his
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: role as he's got to bring the price of guests down.
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: He's got to get this ran thing taken care of.
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: He's got to get on affordability. And if he does that,
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: he can win. I think he thinks, and maybe he can.
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: But those who win the war, ok.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: The first thing is win the war. Number two. Support
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: strong candidates number three, raise money for the congressional candidate
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: number four, Get out there and explain why we went
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: to war in the first place. Don't talk about the ballroom.
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: You're absolutely right. You know. I just finished my newsletter
• 37:35
  Speaker 6: for today, which is about to go out. But I
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: talked to Newt Gingrich about the midterms, and one of
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: the things he said was he said, I believe Now
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: I don't have any inside knowledge, but I think that
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: Trump thinks he's got until the fourth of July to
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: take care of things and then turn, you know, strongly
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: to the midterms. Don't get guessed, I says, way down
• 38:01
  Speaker 6: by Labor Day, that's it for you. But but he
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: thinks he's got till the fourth of July to get
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: this thing.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Now, I agree with mister speaker, mister Newt, as Rush
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: used to call him. I agree with that because the
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: news cycle moves so fast, everything that happens in June
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: is going to be gone by August. But what do
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: you make of my argument that Paxxton hurts down ticket.
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: I think I think it's really Listen, I have to
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: tell you, early on in this process, I was kind
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: of amazed by the possibility that Paxton could get the nomination,
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: that that Cornyan wouldn't get the nomination in the end,
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: I was kind of dismissive, of dismissive of that. So
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: that was totally wrong. But but and you know, I
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: thought Trump would eventually go with UH with Cornan U
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: in part, you know, to keep the Republican senators in
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: line with him. But I guess his view towards Republican
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: senators who were very happy unhappy with his decision as well,
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: where are you going to go? You know?
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Well, I think I think the Bill Cassidy defeat gave
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: him a wrong sense of how much power you at.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: He's got a lot of power in a red state,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: where he's got a lot of power in a red state,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: but he didn't have a lot of power in the
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Senate when elections aren't around, especially when he's a lame duck,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: as he will be in the last two years and
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: in the eight months that John Corny and Jony Earns,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Tom Tillis and Bill Cassidy are in the Senate. Good
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: luck getting anyone through that you want to get through
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: that thought.
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: Have you thought that Trump now just seems absolutely obsessed
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: with absolute total control of the Republican Party and the
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: greater electorate. Maybe not so much. I mean a couple
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: of days ago was the first day that is job
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: approval rating went below forty points in the Real Clear
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: Politics average of polls. It picked down the thirty nine
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: point nine first time ever in this this term, and
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: in the generic ballot is roughly what it was in
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: twenty eighteen, almost exactly what it was in twenty eighteen,
• 40:23
  Speaker 6: favoring Democrats. And Trump does not seem to be paying
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: attention to a lot of that, but it's absolutely paying
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: attention to just showing total dominance. What you saw in Indiana,
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: what you saw in with Bulgacity, total dominance in the
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: Republican Party. Now maybe he thinks that's going to end
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: up to turn into electoral dominance, or maybe maybe it's
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: that he's totally in control of a party that loses
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: this majority.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: All I remember is George W. Bush two thousand and six,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: the library speech. We got thumped and we have to
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: go do the search. And this is the sixth year
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: there are title charts in American politics. And John Cornea
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: was almost elected the leader of the Republican He's well
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: liked in the Senate. There are human human dynamics here
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: that you've got to take into account. And he's a
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: good man. He's a very reasonable, reliable Republican vote, and
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have this this Jacob Marley trail of chests
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: of gold. And yeah, Paxton is a terrible I mean
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: I'll be I'll vote for him. I'll say vote for him.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: But you know, does Tall Rico remind you of John Ossoft?
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Does that bring back anything?
• 41:42
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: I mean that was another Trump disaster that led to
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: losing both Senate seats in Georgia. You know, I mean
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: both the Senators and Georgia are Democrats. I mean, it
• 41:52
  Speaker 6: was it didn't have to happen, did not have to happen.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: And boyle, boy, if he loses both the House and
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: the Senate, the impeachment trials will be never end. I mean,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: the impeachment is going to be a given if he
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: loses the House. And I just think people are to
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: think about down ticket with Ken Paxton at the top
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: of the ticket. They don't having a governor's race right now,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: so it's Ken Paxson at the top of the ticket.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: And then they ask you to vote for a Republican
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: in a new House district. Oh my goodness. Well, maybe
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: John corn will win anyway. There are a lot of
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: reagionable texts, and maybe he'll win anyway. Byron York, thank you.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: You make me laugh. And I like it when people
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: sort of agree with my perspective, and so I like Byron.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: We don't often do that, but I get to do today.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: They'll go anywhere America. I'll be right back you. Joined
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: by Ohio Senator John Houston. Senator Hough said is one
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: of our favorite senators, and he's finally not in his
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: office so I can talk politics with him. Senator, I'm
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: so glad you're out of your office. The rule is
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: we can't talk politics, but we got to get you reelected.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: And I want to begin by having people know what's
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: your campaign website so they can go make a small
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: dollar don't nation to get you going.
• 43:03
  Speaker 11: John Houstead for Senate dot Com And that's j O. N.
• 43:07
  Speaker 11: H Usted for Senate dot Com.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: John Houston for Senate dot Com. Now you're running against
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: nemesis of mine. Although Shared Brown has never been on
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: this show, he won't come on this show. He's a
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Yale who got out of Yale and immediately went into
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: the State House and then went to Washington and never
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: looked back at Ohio. Meanwhile, you're a Dayton flyer. You
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: got done with being a Dayton flyer and you hung
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: around to do local business development for the Chamber, et cetera.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Then you went to the State House and became the
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Speaker of the ISO State House, the Secretary of State,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: the Lieutenant Governor. I mean, you hung around Ohio. I
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: doubt there's any city or state in Ohio you haven't
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: been in. Am I right about that, John Houston, I have.
• 43:48
  Speaker 11: I have been to every county in Ohio multiple times,
• 43:52
  Speaker 11: and no matter how rural of a county you are, in.
• 43:56
  Speaker 11: I know somebody that's there, and I can connect you
• 43:59
  Speaker 11: to all the great people that live throughout our state.
• 44:02
  Speaker 11: I grew up in one of the most rural counties
• 44:04
  Speaker 11: in Ohio, Williams County, which is way up in the
• 44:07
  Speaker 11: northwest corner a near Indiana and Michigan.
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: I grew up on County Road J Hugh. We didn't
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: we didn't even have a name for my road. I
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: just we just had a letter.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Now I am from the beating heart of Ohio, the
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: land Warren, Youngstown, Steele Valley, and the Cavaliers. We can
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: agree they ow to beat the Knicks. But let's talk
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: about politic. Sharon Brown ran the same playbook, talk a
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: good Ohio game, go to DC and vote left, left,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: left left. He finally that that string ran out a
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: few years ago. He's back. He's like a bad penny.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: How's the campaign going.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: Look, it's going well.
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: We've had a great time in Ohio.
• 44:46
  Speaker 11: I have a long record of success in Ohio, creating jobs,
• 44:51
  Speaker 11: helping people get workforce skills, doing innovation, cutting government waste
• 44:56
  Speaker 11: and frauds.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: So you know, the voters know that.
• 44:59
  Speaker 11: And remember they just fired him two years ago by
• 45:03
  Speaker 11: more votes than anybody has ever been fired from a
• 45:06
  Speaker 11: job in the state.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: Of Ohio history.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: He lost by over two hundred thousand votes.
• 45:10
  Speaker 11: But look, we have success in having business groups that
• 45:14
  Speaker 11: never endorsed in the US Center race endorsing me. We've
• 45:17
  Speaker 11: had labor groups that endorsed Sharon Brown the last time
• 45:20
  Speaker 11: who are endorsing me. We've had county sheriffs, including Democrats,
• 45:25
  Speaker 11: who flipped from endorsing him to endorsing me. So we're
• 45:29
  Speaker 11: doing really well at the grassroots level in Ohio. And look,
• 45:32
  Speaker 11: he hasn't been in Ohio for.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: Thirty two years.
• 45:34
  Speaker 11: He was in Washington for thirty two years, and now
• 45:38
  Speaker 11: you know he's back again running for office. He's been
• 45:41
  Speaker 11: in office in Ohio for fifty two years. He was
• 45:43
  Speaker 11: first elected in nineteen seventy four, and he's had his chance,
• 45:48
  Speaker 11: and the voters know that they's had his chance.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: He's been around.
• 45:51
  Speaker 11: Everything he complains about are his policies that are failing
• 45:55
  Speaker 11: us today. Like he was all in for letting China
• 45:58
  Speaker 11: get into the World Trade Organization, shipping our jobs to China,
• 46:01
  Speaker 11: and then he says he cares about Ohio workers.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: That's blowney.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: He's a left wing progressive as well, boys and girls sports.
• 46:08
  Speaker 11: Well, Hugh All had voted with Elizabeth Warren ninety five
• 46:12
  Speaker 11: percent of the time, Chuck Schumer ninety seven percent of
• 46:15
  Speaker 11: the time, Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris ninety eight percent
• 46:18
  Speaker 11: of the time. Does that sound like the record of
• 46:21
  Speaker 11: somebody from Ohio. I'll tell you this, I'll have I'll
• 46:24
  Speaker 11: have John Thune come to Ohio. Do you think he's
• 46:27
  Speaker 11: going to have Chuck Schumer come to Ohio? No, because
• 46:30
  Speaker 11: he doesn't represent Ohio values.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Well, I hope President Trump comes for you as well.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: It's a Trump state, it's a red state. But Shared
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Brown's got the old Brown name, which has always been
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: kind of a talisman in Ohio. And that's why I
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: think he won the first time. But he is a
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: hard left guy, and that's what do you think Buck
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: guy's learned that for the first time because you get
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: away with that for a long time. But you can't
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: fool all the people all the time, and he fooled
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of people. I assume that's what your campaign
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: financing is going to go to, making sure people know
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: who the real Shared Brown is. He's left and left.
• 47:04
  Speaker 11: Well, they just fired him, you, I mean they just
• 47:06
  Speaker 11: fired him by over two hundred thousand votes. The last time,
• 47:09
  Speaker 11: Bernie Marino, who beat him, had this line that said,
• 47:12
  Speaker 11: Sharon Brown just too liberal for Ohio, and I still
• 47:15
  Speaker 11: have people repeat that back to me to this very day,
• 47:18
  Speaker 11: so they know that he's way left of center. He's
• 47:22
  Speaker 11: embraced the radical left. That's how he voted when he
• 47:26
  Speaker 11: was here. You know, he was the kind of guy
• 47:29
  Speaker 11: that voted to allow men to play women's sports, boys
• 47:32
  Speaker 11: and girls locker room. He was the pregnant person guy.
• 47:36
  Speaker 11: You understand the kind of the kind of thing that
• 47:38
  Speaker 11: he eventually embraced when he was in Washington and then
• 47:42
  Speaker 11: would come back to Ohio on occasion and try to
• 47:44
  Speaker 11: talk a good game.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Now, the secret to Ohio politics has always been and
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: this matters, by the way, because you're essential to keep
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: in the majority. You and Senator Collins are the key
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: to keep in the majority. Maybe we pick up Michigan,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: maybe we pick up georgiaefully weekend hold onto Texas, no
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: matter what happens. I wasn't happy with the president day
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: because I like John Cornyn, but we gotta win Ohio
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: and Ohio is a red state, so you got to
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: win Ohio do you think there will be debates? I'm
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: offering to come and be if you get the pick
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: one and he gets to pick one, I'll come be
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: the moderator. I'm fair, but he doesn't get softballs from
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: me like he's gotten for thirty five years. Are you
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: going to have debates?
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: Well, we'll see. I honestly don't know whether there will be.
• 48:26
  Speaker 11: There was no debate the last time between he and
• 48:29
  Speaker 11: Bernie Moreno. As a matter of fact, I understand that
• 48:31
  Speaker 11: they've never actually met. They ran a campaign that was
• 48:34
  Speaker 11: the most expensive campaign in the history of the country,
• 48:38
  Speaker 11: non presidential race, and the two candidates never met, as
• 48:41
  Speaker 11: I understand it.
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: So I don't know you. But the bottom line is
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: that he is just too liberal for Ohio.
• 48:48
  Speaker 11: I have been trusted by the people of Ohio to
• 48:50
  Speaker 11: fight for their jobs, to fight for their families.
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: That's that's what I've been doing in the very brief
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: time that I've been here.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Well, you've won four state wide elections, so I want
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: people know, John Houston, you've won four straight statewide elections,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: but you got to raise a fortune. Those are state
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: wide elections, they're not the fifty million dollar election that's
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: why John Houston for Senate Jail and h U s.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: T Ed for Senate f O or Senate dot com
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: matters how much do you think you have to raise
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: because he's going to get Act Blue money. They're going
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: to launder that money. That's going to be more laundered
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: than they coin laundry in Youngstown. It's going to be
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: completely laundered. Money I had, I had.
• 49:29
  Speaker 11: He spent three hundred million dollars the last time all
• 49:33
  Speaker 11: in from all of the groups gave him three hundred
• 49:36
  Speaker 11: million dollars. He has the Act Blue network in which
• 49:40
  Speaker 11: he uh and which he is, you know, raising a
• 49:44
  Speaker 11: bunch of money.
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: We're raising money, but he's out raising us so far.
• 49:47
  Speaker 11: So if you're at John Housteed for Senate dot Com,
• 49:50
  Speaker 11: you can help us out because we need as many
• 49:53
  Speaker 11: many every dollar accounts because they'll outspend us and we
• 49:57
  Speaker 11: have to we have to try to keep pace with
• 49:59
  Speaker 11: that that money machine that they have, that money printing
• 50:03
  Speaker 11: thing that they've got on the Democratic Party.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: Now, I want to explain to people why Vice President
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Vance actually explain this to me. After being in the
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: business for thirty years. A donation made to Senator Houston
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: that goes directly to John Houston for Senate, goes a
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: lot further than a super Pac donation because he gets
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: the lowest rate on the cart in Cleveland and the
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Cleveland metro market where we are right now in fourteen
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: twenty am the answer, and we're on in Toledo and
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Columbus and Cincinnati, all over the place, But you get
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: the lowest card. So that's why dollars to you matter
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: more than dollars to super packs. Although I'm sure super
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: PACs will be helping you.
• 50:41
  Speaker 11: Well, hopefully there'll be a lot of people helping us,
• 50:44
  Speaker 11: but I can't have any relationship with any of those
• 50:46
  Speaker 11: outside groups. I can money that goes directly to our campaign.
• 50:51
  Speaker 11: We have control over how it's spent and what the
• 50:53
  Speaker 11: message is. Those are the most valuable dollars in terms
• 50:56
  Speaker 11: of the type of message that you run, but also
• 51:00
  Speaker 11: that they get because you get a lower rate if
• 51:02
  Speaker 11: you're a candidate.
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: Committee.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Now let me ask you're a good friend of Israel,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Senta Houston, and you voted the right way on Israel.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Sharon Brown used to be but is no longer does
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: the Ohio Jewish community, which is significant, very significant in Cleveland,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: very significant Columbus, very significant in Cincinnati. Do they know
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: that you're a friend of the Jewish State.
• 51:23
  Speaker 11: I believe so it's not really been an issue. As
• 51:27
  Speaker 11: a statewide elected official. I was just very involved in
• 51:30
  Speaker 11: the Jewish communities on things like school choice, which they
• 51:33
  Speaker 11: have supported, over protecting synagogues, speaking out against anti Semitism,
• 51:39
  Speaker 11: about all of those kinds of things that I have
• 51:41
  Speaker 11: a long working relationship with them. Now it's about the
• 51:45
  Speaker 11: Israel United States relationship. But I just met with I
• 51:49
  Speaker 11: just met with a rabbi from Cincinnati today. I just
• 51:53
  Speaker 11: was spending time with many people from the Jewish community
• 51:56
  Speaker 11: in Ohio who came to visit me this morning in
• 51:59
  Speaker 11: one of my Houston huddles to talk about the security issues.
• 52:02
  Speaker 11: And you know what they told me, Hugh, that they've
• 52:05
  Speaker 11: actually worked the Jewish community in Ohio.
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: They've been working with the state.
• 52:10
  Speaker 11: Department of Public Safety and they actually alerted a mosque
• 52:15
  Speaker 11: about an attack in Ohio and helped prevent an attack.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: On a mosque.
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: So you can just see that the Jewish.
• 52:21
  Speaker 11: Community in Ohio is against religious hate and violence, whether
• 52:25
  Speaker 11: it's for a mosque or for a church or for
• 52:28
  Speaker 11: a synagogue.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: That's what the message that they were really sending me today.
• 52:32
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  Speaker 1: next five months, hopefully not in the Senate office where
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  Speaker 1: we always talk policy. And he's a policy wonk, so
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: I like that too. But it's going to be brass
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  Speaker 6: I've got a nuclear science I love my.
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• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Welcome back in America. I'm Hugh Herett. That music it
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: means Lilex is in the house, as in James Lilys
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: as in James liilyas dot Substack dot Com humorous extraordinaire.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Along with Dave Barry. The two guys have been making
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: America laugh the longest. Are Lilex and David Berry, who
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: happened to be pals. James, let me ask you about Minnesota,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: because I will be talking about this with our friend
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Matt Cottenetty afterwards. One of your judges up there is
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: a fellow named David Strass who's a longtime member of
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: the Eighth Circuit, fifty one years old, very smart, originalist,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: but he's from Minneso. Cool and you know, I don't
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: I imagine that neither Democratic Center would in Dorsim, although
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Amy Klobuchar said good things about him when he was
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: nominated for the Eighth Circuit. He's an American Jew, He's
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: an observant Jew, and his grandparents were Holocaust survivors. Do
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: you think that on a matter and filling the Supreme
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: Court vacancy.
• 54:14
  Speaker 9: On one level, No, I'm not one of those identity
• 54:16
  Speaker 9: people who likes to check a box and make sure
• 54:17
  Speaker 9: that everybody is represented so that they can tell their
• 54:20
  Speaker 9: own story from their unique perspective. I mean that's part
• 54:22
  Speaker 9: of it, yes, but we're all Americans, and the originalists
• 54:25
  Speaker 9: go back to what's on the paper, not necessarily how
• 54:27
  Speaker 9: they see it through the prism of their own existence.
• 54:29
  Speaker 9: That said, in an era of rising anti Semitism. It's
• 54:34
  Speaker 9: great to say I actually, no, we're not going to listen.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: To you people.
• 54:37
  Speaker 9: We're going to hire this guy because we think he's
• 54:39
  Speaker 9: good and we don't care if it bothers you that
• 54:40
  Speaker 9: he's a Jew. I mean, Minnesota has had some an
• 54:43
  Speaker 9: extraordinary past of anti Semitism. I think it was called
• 54:46
  Speaker 9: the most anti Semitic city in the country back in
• 54:48
  Speaker 9: the twenties.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: That's gone.
• 54:51
  Speaker 9: But you know, back and forth the does and the
• 54:53
  Speaker 9: more the left goes to hating Zionism, I'm sorry, hating Jews,
• 54:57
  Speaker 9: I'm sorry, hating anxiety. And the more that the far
• 54:59
  Speaker 9: right els get there and he's in a twist about Israel, the.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: More it's like, yeah, okay.
• 55:06
  Speaker 9: In one sense, I don't think it should matter. On
• 55:08
  Speaker 9: the other, I kind of like the idea of putting
• 55:09
  Speaker 9: it their face, like Jimmy Cagney with a greape fruit
• 55:12
  Speaker 9: in the woman's face in public Enemy number one, Who's
• 55:15
  Speaker 9: public Enemy?
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: I like the idea of nominating an originalist American Jew,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: not only because they serve the court well over twenty
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: five thirty thirty five years, but also because the realignment
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: that's underway in American politics ought to see American jewry
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: fleeing the Democratic Party in which you've got just crazy
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: people going on, and this might help it along a
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: little bit. So as long as you're knocking out a
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: good and David Stross is a hundred percent alito, hundred
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: percev the Clarence Thomas Clark, I think that I'd be
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: reassuring for every conservative out there. He's an originalist originalist,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: But I'd like to push it along a little bit.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: I think that would be a good thing to do.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: I want to turn next to mister Maggione. There are
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: people and I will bring this up well with Matt Continetti.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: So I'm getting the Midwestern view and the dzview. There
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: are people outside the Mangione trial for murder who are
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: saying disgusting things about Bryan Hughes family, Brian Thompson's family
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: and how they ou have suffered, I mean really disgusting things,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: and they're being put on TV. What do you think
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: about that?
• 56:25
  Speaker 9: Well, A, it's nice for people to self describe and
• 56:27
  Speaker 9: self revealed as being absolutely deplorable individuals without a heart
• 56:31
  Speaker 9: to the ethics or a sense of a soul whatsoever.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: I mean when you see them there.
• 56:34
  Speaker 9: With press credentials, mind you saying if his family, the
• 56:37
  Speaker 9: kids should enjoy the blood money. These are shrieking heartbees
• 56:40
  Speaker 9: from the depths of hell, and it's nice that they're
• 56:42
  Speaker 9: sort of showing everybody their true colors. That said, they're
• 56:46
  Speaker 9: probably at the Luigi trial because Buddy's dead, and same
• 56:49
  Speaker 9: with Manson. It's the same thing as a certain kind
• 56:52
  Speaker 9: of concentrated evil that will always do that is a
• 56:54
  Speaker 9: charismatic to a damaged soul, and they'll show up and say, oh,
• 56:58
  Speaker 9: what a heart throb. Now, the guy himself was not
• 57:01
  Speaker 9: particularly charismatic, was you know, had one eyeball hanging out
• 57:05
  Speaker 9: and you know, a couple of scraggly British teeth from
• 57:07
  Speaker 9: nineteen sixty two. Maybe they wouldn't be so much enamored
• 57:10
  Speaker 9: of him. But he's just got that sort of look
• 57:12
  Speaker 9: that why you know, if he was a bomber, the
• 57:15
  Speaker 9: Rolling Stones would have put him on a cboard in
• 57:17
  Speaker 9: a dreamy you know, Jim Morrison like Poe's so yeah,
• 57:20
  Speaker 9: it's you're always going to have women like this and
• 57:22
  Speaker 9: NodD out.
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: It always seems to be women.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: Now, James, I set this up on the assumption that
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: you had not seen the clip. I have seen the
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: clip because I do show prep. Why have you seen
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: the clip?
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: Because it's all over Twitter.
• 57:36
  Speaker 9: Because if you wait for the mainstream media in the
• 57:38
  Speaker 9: newspapers the rest of it to put it out, you're
• 57:40
  Speaker 9: never going to see it. But if you marinate on
• 57:42
  Speaker 9: x as some of us do, you will see this
• 57:44
  Speaker 9: pop up ten times in the course of four or
• 57:46
  Speaker 9: five hours or so, because people find it to be
• 57:49
  Speaker 9: so absolutely appalling and revelatory of what people in.
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: The New Left have become.
• 57:54
  Speaker 9: I mean it's not just them.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: You have people who've been interviewed.
• 57:56
  Speaker 9: Well and given nice rubbing rolling reviews by the New
• 58:01
  Speaker 9: York Times saying that, you know, the guy that Luigi
• 58:04
  Speaker 9: shot was guilty of social murder, which is a beautiful
• 58:07
  Speaker 9: new concept that I assume they're going to use when
• 58:09
  Speaker 9: they start putting people back up against the wall again.
• 58:11
  Speaker 9: So yeah, it's not just these crazy ladies. It's a
• 58:15
  Speaker 9: whole element of the party that believes that the guy
• 58:18
  Speaker 9: was deserved to die because healthcare, because it's late stage capitalism,
• 58:22
  Speaker 9: because healthscape, because whatever. So the next thing they'll do
• 58:25
  Speaker 9: probably is traded in their fauci candles that had the
• 58:27
  Speaker 9: little Saint Fauci on them for Saint Luigi candles and
• 58:31
  Speaker 9: burn those in the corner.
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: Even though they have absolutely no religion in their hearts.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: So you mentioned there are three women who are in
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: this video and they have press credentials at Waedon. I
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: don't want to dox anyone. I'm always against doxing people.
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: That is.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: A stepping stone towards violence against them. But should we
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: get a bile on these three because they might just
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: have escaped from the locally been well.
• 58:56
  Speaker 9: Of course, I mean press conference. Press credentials are not
• 58:59
  Speaker 9: handed out complete Willy Nelie. It's always taken me a
• 59:01
  Speaker 9: little bit of work to get one. Find out who
• 59:03
  Speaker 9: they wrote for before, that would be illustrative, and what's more,
• 59:06
  Speaker 9: find out who they write for next, because it's the
• 59:08
  Speaker 9: people who'll hire them to write something, who know what
• 59:10
  Speaker 9: they just said in front of that press conference, that
• 59:13
  Speaker 9: deserve to be held accountable and say, really, that's the
• 59:16
  Speaker 9: kind of person that you just couldn't find an average
• 59:19
  Speaker 9: run in the middle plagiarist like everybody else. He had
• 59:21
  Speaker 9: to go get somebody who's standing for a murderer. Okay,
• 59:24
  Speaker 9: So yes, of course they want to be journalists, and.
• 59:27
  Speaker 11: There you go.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: So when you say something that I think objectively and
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: moral and would be voted objectively and moral by ninety
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: nine percent of the people, do you think his family
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: ought to have a lawsuit against them for the intentional
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: infliction of emotional distress?
• 59:44
  Speaker 9: A lawsuit against the people who are talking No, leading
• 59:48
  Speaker 9: to yeah, no, I don't. But you said ninety nine percent.
• 59:51
  Speaker 9: I don't think it's ninety nine percent. If you look
• 59:53
  Speaker 9: at out of the surveys, you can to find that more. No,
• 59:56
  Speaker 9: you're going to find that something like twenty three percent
• 59:58
  Speaker 9: of pe I don't exact numbers. I'll have to look
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 9: it up and mischaracterize them later for you. But increasing
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 9: percentage of people believe that political violence is absolutely acceptable
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 9: in this country. If we're not going to move the
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 9: needle by elections, and if we're not going to be
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 9: able to pack the Supreme Court right away or get
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 9: Puerto Rico into a state, well we got to start
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 9: popping people. And that is increasingly increasingly apparent on young
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 9: people on the leftist side of the spectrum. I don't
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 9: know why anybody's surprised by it. I mean, if you're
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 9: if you're out there wearing your Chase shirt. Then you've
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 9: already thrown your lot in with political murder, and there's
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 9: nothing to.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: Tell me that these that ninety nine I wish it
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: was ninety.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 9: Nine percent of the people find those things reprehensible. But
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 9: I think at this point in our society is probably
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 9: about seventy five.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: I began show that's a nice.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: One with Noah Rothman is brand new book, Blood in Progress.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: But I really what they said, in particular that they
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: hope his children suffer and that they don't get the
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: blood money, and that's aimed at living children. Don't you
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: think ninety nine percent? I recoil from that? That's the
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: that's worth though. I absolutely don't, and you don't. You don't, Wow, Well,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: we don't.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 9: I don't think the ninety nine percent of the big
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 9: I don't think ninety nine Well, I don't think the
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 9: ninety nine percent of the people have ever recalled for
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 9: something like that. You're always going to have a percentage
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 9: of people who believe that any sort of indignities, terrors,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 9: and pain reeked upon the people with whom they disagree
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 9: is justifiable.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: And Noah's book is great.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 9: Noah's book is fantastic and shows you exactly how this
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 9: has been metastasizing.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: In their culture for years.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 9: So no, the children deserve it because they're the spawn
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 9: of evil, just like Charlie Kirk's kids.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 6: Right here.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: Wow, you're making me happyly like you're supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: I began the show today with Noah Rothman talking about
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: his book Blood and Progress. I want to ask you
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: about that despicable display at the courthouse in Manhattan where
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: people supporting allegedly supporting the murderer were out there saying
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: that the healthcare executive from Healthcare had it coming. Brian,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: what do you make of that? It's depraved? Actually, it's
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: absolutely deprave for you.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 12: You know, on one level, there's always been a fascination
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 12: with criminals, and you know, prisoners get sent love letters
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 12: and bizarre obsessions form. But on a different level, I
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 12: think the Manngoni phenomenon is more menacing because it speaks
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 12: to a larger currents in our society that are not
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 12: only radical in their attitude toward America. Want to uproot America,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 12: want to defame our history, to destroy our institutions, to
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 12: remake America in some socialist image, but are also more
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 12: and more accepting a violent means and extreme means to
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 12: silence the opposition, to kill someone Brian Thompson, a CEO
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 12: of a major corporation, just walking down the street to
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 12: be shot in the back. There's nothing more horrifying. So yeah,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 12: on one level, you can see just to kind of
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 12: a weird social behavior that's constant in all human life.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 12: But at a different level, we have I think a
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 12: radical tendency that's building in our society that we need
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 12: to be very concerned about and need to address the
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 12: best we can.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 10: Now.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: One of the ways to address that is to expand
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: the tort known as the intentional infliction of mental distress.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: And I know you're not a lawyer, but you think
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: like a lawyer and you read like a lawyer. That's
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: where you do things to intentionally injure people's emotional well being.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: Those people in front of that courthouse who were glad
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: to go online and bring up Brian Thompson's family and
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: how they hope they suffer, they are intentionally inflicting mental distress.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: Do you think that ought to be a tort? Do
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: you think we First Amendment matters to me? But that's
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: just intended to harm?
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 12: What do you think, Matt Contetty, Well, I think you
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 12: I'd like to see it go through the courts. You know,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 12: I recall Justice Alito's dissent in one of the Westboro
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 12: Baptist cases where the people were harassing the families of
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 12: our fallen heroes at military ceremonies, and I think Justice
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 12: Alito made exactly the same point you just did. He said,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 12: you know, all of our rights have limits, and when
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 12: you are intentionally trying to make the parents and wives
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 12: and children or husbands and children of our soldiers feel pain,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 12: those limits need to be explored, and there ought to
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 12: be some consequence.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 6: So I'm all for it.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 12: I think that Justice Alito, you know, as Molly Hemingway
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 12: has been writing recently and speaking recently, he's becoming more influential.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 12: So it's possible that his jurisprudence might take the day
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 12: if these cases work through the courts. But there has
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 12: to be some limit reached.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: It was an eight to one decision. He didn't even
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: get Clarence Thomas to go with him, but he got me.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: Because I've driven by Westborough.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 6: I was behind him.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 12: I'm always with him.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: What can I say? Yeah, yeah, I know. A senator said,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: I'll just tell me what a Leno decide, And that's
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: what I want, but I've also heard some buzz despite
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: the counter buzz, he may be stepping down because he
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: knows the Senate could be lost.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 12: What would your reaction be to that, Well, we would
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 12: be losing one of our great Supreme Court justices in
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 12: American history. I have to say, though, when you look
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 12: at the political calendar, you look at the way things
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 12: are headed. If you're a conservative justice thinking of stepping
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 12: down now as the time, the picture doesn't look very pretty, Hugh.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 12: And we know that if the Democrats control the Senate
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 12: as well as the House, it's not just the Trump
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 12: agenda that will end. All of the Trump appointments will
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  Speaker 12: end as well, and the Democrats will be looking for
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  Speaker 12: revenge for the Merrick Garland seat, for the Ruth Bader
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  Speaker 12: Ginsburg seat. So yes, I think it would be understandable
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  Speaker 12: if one of the just conservative justices decided to retire
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  Speaker 12: at the end of this term, even though it'd be
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  Speaker 12: a loss for the Court in the country.
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  Speaker 1: It would be if you go buy the AI machine
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  Speaker 1: at AI, you've all would you print in ask him
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  Speaker 1: who the successor ought to be. He'll have that answer.
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  Speaker 1: And the AI program at AEI is only limited. AI scholars.
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  Speaker 1: Have you heard the name David Strass. That's who my
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  Speaker 1: early favorite is for a replacement justice if this happens.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I haven't heard him the name.
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  Speaker 12: It's a difference between this term and the first Trump term.
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  Speaker 12: We had the list at the outset of the first
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  Speaker 12: Trump term. We don't have a list this time, and
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  Speaker 12: I think it's be up in the air. But if
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  Speaker 12: you let me give you a little wit, if you
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  Speaker 12: endure somebody, Hugh, it's a good sign.
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  Speaker 1: Fifty one years old, eighth Circuit a originalists originalist clerk
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  Speaker 1: for Clarence Thomas, been on the bench for a number
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  Speaker 1: of years, grand child of Holocaust survivor Jewish. We haven't
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  Speaker 1: a Jewish member on the court in a long time.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of reasons I think about David Strass. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to turn the war match with Matt continent. You
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  Speaker 1: don't go anywhere. I'll be right back. Welcome back, America.
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  Speaker 1: I'm back with Matt Continetti because I want to get
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  Speaker 1: his assessment of the delay that President Trump announced yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: He had prepared a second the recommencement of combat operations
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  Speaker 1: with Iran. I was hoping they would be underway by now.
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  Speaker 1: He said, he is deferring to our golf allies.
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  Speaker 12: What say you, Matt Continetty, Well, I think that right
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  Speaker 12: now America is the only participant that's abiding by the ceasefire.
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  Speaker 12: When you consider some of the drone attacks that Iran
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  Speaker 12: has been launching against the golf allies, when you think
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  Speaker 12: about some of the covert operations we've heard by the
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  Speaker 12: golf countries against Iran, it's America that hasn't restarted the
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  Speaker 12: kinetic aspect of this war as we conduct our blockade.
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  Speaker 12: I think that listening to jd Vance at the press
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  Speaker 12: briefing this afternoon, Hugh, you know you got the sense
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  Speaker 12: that but this administration is committed to negotiations and they
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  Speaker 12: think that they have the Iranians on the edge of
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  Speaker 12: making a deal. And I just have to say, I'm
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  Speaker 12: very skeptical about that. And so I think we could
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  Speaker 12: continue down this road forever if we didn't have the
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  Speaker 12: straight of hor moves closed to commercial activity.
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  Speaker 6: And I think it so.
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  Speaker 12: Sooner or later, the President is going to have to
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  Speaker 12: realize if he wants any chance in this midterm election,
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  Speaker 12: he needs to open the strait of Hormus in order
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  Speaker 12: to change the equation on these oil prices.
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  Speaker 1: He has to win the war decisively. I'll even go
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  Speaker 1: further than open the straight Horror Moves and oil price.
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  Speaker 1: He has to win decisively because we don't want another
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  Speaker 1: failed war, and I do think it will be a
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  Speaker 1: failure if the Iranians can in any way plausibly claim
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  Speaker 1: that they not just that they survive, but that they triumph.
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious. We had a no fly zone for a
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  Speaker 1: decade in Iraq. What about a no fire zone and
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  Speaker 1: a no go zone. The one hundred miles along the
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  Speaker 1: Straight of Horror Moves and twenty miles back that not
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  Speaker 1: to be enforced as a minimum.
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  Speaker 12: Man, that's the way to do it. It just is
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  Speaker 12: a question of will. I think right now, the Gulf
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  Speaker 12: States have convinced the President that any resumption of the
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  Speaker 12: war would result in the destruction of their energy facilities,
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  Speaker 12: and it doesn't seem like the President Trump wants to
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  Speaker 12: pay that price. And so as long as we're in
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 12: that kind of standstill, we have to rely on other
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  Speaker 12: economic pressures. But I think you're right. I think to
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  Speaker 12: get out of the situation, there's only one way, and
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  Speaker 12: that's through, and that's through resuming the war. Completing the
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  Speaker 12: target list and showing the Iranians we mean business. Just
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  Speaker 12: a side note, you know, I've been studying Henry Kissinger lately.
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  Speaker 12: Kissinger is big critique of American foreign policy. He was
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  Speaker 12: we always alternated between use of force and diplomacy. We'd
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  Speaker 12: always end the use of force, and then we thought, Okay,
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  Speaker 12: now it's diplomacy. What Chris Kinsinger said is no, you
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  Speaker 12: have to use them simultaneously. And I think that's what
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  Speaker 12: Trump has done in the past. He's shown that he's
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  Speaker 12: willing to use force even as he conducts diplomacy. Right now,
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  Speaker 12: we're in a situation where we use force. Then we
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  Speaker 12: started the cease fire over a month ago, and the
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  Speaker 12: Iranians aren't budgeting because they're not.
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  Speaker 3: Afraid of the force.
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  Speaker 12: You have to reapply the force, in my view, if
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  Speaker 12: you want to make progress on the diplomatic front. That's
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  Speaker 12: what Kissinger thought, and Kissinger is good enough for me.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, inconstancy in the application of force leads to a
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  Speaker 1: complete lack of results on the diplomatic side. And they
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: did fire the drone at the UA's nukes, and I
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: think that was enough to get allegedly MBG to say
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  Speaker 1: hold off, mister President. There's a point at that, but
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  Speaker 1: there's also a point of dropping a dozen mo absong
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  Speaker 1: me the coast of the Strait to push back the
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  Speaker 1: Iranians and then follow with the force that is necessary.
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  Speaker 1: I want to close with this. It's whenever I disagree
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: with the President, I want to put a line underneath
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  Speaker 1: it so that people understand that happens in our party.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a John Cornyan supporter. I think he's been a
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  Speaker 1: fine senator. I hope he wins in Texas. I don't
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: know what the President is doing. I think it puts
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: that seat at risk if Ken Paxson is the nominee.
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  Speaker 1: Why do you think he did that, Matt.
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  Speaker 12: Well, especially now you I mean, maybe he's feeling the
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 12: power of his endorsements. They've been very effective in Louisiana,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 12: in the state races in Indiana. We're going to have
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 12: another test of that tonight in the congressional race in Kentucky.
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  Speaker 12: Maybe he feels that this is the opportunity Donald Trump
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 12: has to continue to reshape the party. But it's a
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  Speaker 12: very risky move. You know, the polls I've seen of
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  Speaker 12: that primary show that it's kind of up in the air.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 12: No question that a Trump endorsement will help Paxton, But
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 12: is now the right time to do the endorsement so
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 12: close to the election when you could have just stayed
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 12: out of it and seen who seen who won. So,
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  Speaker 12: even though I think that Talla Eco is an extremely
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 12: flawed candidate and will have problems against Paxton as well,
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  Speaker 12: it just is a kind of that kind of Republican
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  Speaker 12: circular firing squad that's a feature of the GOP, and
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 12: that usually ends up with the Democrats getting the benefit.
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  Speaker 1: And there is not really unlimited money. People think there's
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: a pretty significant Republican fundraising advantage. But Texas is a
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: big state with a lot of media markets. I'm on
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: and all of them, so I know how many. There
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: are big ones, not small one. That's not counting the
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  Speaker 1: little cities of the Plain States or Amarillo or places
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: like that, but the big Houston and San Antonio and
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: Dallas and wherever there's number four down there. I can't
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: remember what number four is. But it's a very expensive state,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: and that means well, if John Cornyn wins, it's a layup.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: You don't have to spend the money. If Ken Paxton wins,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: you have to spend one hundred million dollars that could
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: have gone elsewhere. I really don't understand it. And I
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  Speaker 1: also wonder does it remove the incentive to support the
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  Speaker 1: president because John Cornyn was very strongly in support of
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: the president. I'm sure he will be, it's just that
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  Speaker 1: their idea. He might not be the loudest man, but
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: he was consistently with him. Does that this incentivize doing that?
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  Speaker 12: It may, you know, I mean, there's always a reaction
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 12: for every action. And this is a problem that Trump
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 12: has faced with Tom Tillis, who he essentially pushed out
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 12: of the Senate from North Carolina. Tillis was a major
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 12: kind of thorn in his side over the debates about
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 12: Jerome Powell on the FED and now with Senator Cassidy
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 12: and Louisiana. He still has about eight months left in
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 12: his term, so he's going to feel free to push
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 12: back against the president. And then, yes, m Cornyn, you
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 12: know he's going to be more independent because really he
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 12: owes Trump nothing now. And so when you're in a
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  Speaker 12: situation where we have a vacant attorney general position we
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 12: just talked earlier about a possibly vacant Supreme Court seat,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 12: those votes are going to count in a Senate majority
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  Speaker 12: this narrow, so I know he.
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  Speaker 1: Can count on Cha. I think he can count on
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  Speaker 1: John Cornyan doing the right thing. That's the difference between
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  Speaker 1: other people. John Cornyn is a good man. He won't
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: hold up an AG nomination because of an endorsement. But
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  Speaker 1: I hope the people of Texas who are listening think
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  Speaker 1: about it and vote for John Cornyan. I'll be back
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  Speaker 1: for one more second. Also, I'm going to keep Matt
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: quantininty for three minutes to talk about Tom Massey and
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: attach it over at my YouTube. Cha you can hear
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: that if you go and listen to the interview and
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: back for a short ask of Matt Connelly about Thomas Mashy.
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  Speaker 1: I've talked him out about him all day. I hope
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  Speaker 1: nobody votes for him tomorrow. I would like him to
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  Speaker 1: get zero votes. What do you make of Tom mass
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  Speaker 1: What drives him?
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  Speaker 12: I think Massy's fundamentally a contrarian. He wants to be
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 12: against rather than four. I think he has an isolationist worldview.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 12: I think some of the comments he's made about Jews
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 12: in American politics are deeply unsettling, and so he's been
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 12: in a position where his kind of you know, rogue
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 12: nature has I think helped him within the district. But
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 12: I think he's kind of running out a runway here
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  Speaker 12: and now with President Trump against him, with the Malgam
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 12: movement largely against him, I mean, all the administration against him. Congress,
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  Speaker 12: I think the time is running short for Massy, but
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  Speaker 12: we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: So the perverse incentive that has existed for six or
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: eight years of just making a lot of noise in
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: order to attract attention and on cable, is that dissipating
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: because Marjorie Taylor Green has gone, Matt Gates is gone,
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  Speaker 1: the people who's screwed Kevin McCarthy are largely been. I
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: think Ralph Norman's gone. I hope Massew's gone tonight. Do
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  Speaker 1: you think that's dissipating the incentive to be an idiot?
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  Speaker 12: Well, I think the party is becoming more pro Trump.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 12: It's not people who go against Trump pay price. The
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 12: party is becoming more pro Israel. Massey is the last
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 12: anti Israel Republican in the House of Representatives. If he loses,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 12: the party will be a pro Israel party in the
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 12: House of Representatives. Now they don't go to Cable the
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 12: attention seekers. They go to podcasts, and I think that
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 12: limits their influence. So I want to be surprised if
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 12: Massey loses his congressional seat. He'll start a podcast. He'll
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 12: get some people, but it won't be the same as
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 12: having the platform of the United States congressman.
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  Speaker 1: And a last question, if there was a judicial nomination
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: on the Court and David Strass was on the list,
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: he is the grandson of Holocaust Vivers. He is a
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: observant Joe. He's a very smarter originalists from the Eighth Circuit.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: So it's up there in Nowhereville, Minnesota and North Dakota,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: that area of the country of the Eighth Circuit. Clerk
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: Porclarence Thom would it matter that he was Jewish? Ought
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  Speaker 1: that to be an issue. There's usually been one Jew
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: on the Court who's a Republican or at least an originalist.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: We do have Elena Kagan, I believe is Jewish, But
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: what do you think.
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  Speaker 12: I think we'll get attention, and I think the left
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 12: might raise issues, especially regarding faith. This is something they
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 12: did with Amy Coney Barrett when they talked about her Catholicism,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 12: and a practicing Jew might face the same questions. I
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 12: think we have a real kind of moment in this
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 12: country that we're bracing. We're already experiencing where anti Semitism
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 12: is becoming so prevalent, so extreme. I think it'd be
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 12: important signal to nominate an American Jew for the Supreme
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 12: Court from President Trump, but I think we could also
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 12: definitely see attacks mainly from the left.
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  Speaker 1: No, I think the tack this would be inevitable, but
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: I also think they would speed the realignment of American
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: Jewish community into the Republican column. So politically a good move,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: but also further alienate the Democratic Party from their traditional
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: Jewish support. Mc conney, thanks for the extra couple of minutes.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to just follow up on a couple of that.
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  Speaker 1: I will talk to you on Friday if we are lucky.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Matt