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55KRC Friday Show - Remember 9/11, Jeffrey Robinson, Jack Windsor · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: 505-55KRC, the talk station. Happy Friday. Happiness tempered, of course, because.
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Speaker 2: It's the 25th anniversary of 9-11.
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Speaker 3: Sugar, you was a baby.
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Speaker 1: There it is, a woo-hoo for Friday. And God bless America.
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Speaker 1: Just say it out loud right at the opening of
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Speaker 1: the morning show. My name is Brian Thomas, host of
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Speaker 1: this program, 55 KRC Morning Show. I love the fact
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Speaker 1: that Joe Strecker is where he is because without Joe Strecker,
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Speaker 1: executive producer of the program, I couldn't do it. Coming
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Speaker 1: up on the 55 KRC Morning Show, Power of Prayer,
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Speaker 1: my listening friends. Just got word from Dave Hatter. He's
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Speaker 1: on his way to the hospital. We don't know anything
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Speaker 1: about it. Not him personally. and since I don't know
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Speaker 1: anything about his trip, he just suggested maybe it won't
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Speaker 1: be possible for him to do Tech Friday this morning
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Speaker 1: at 6.30. So if we could all engage in a
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Speaker 1: momentary pause and wish Dave Hatter and his family the best,
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Speaker 1: we find out what's going on. I won't know if
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Speaker 1: Dave's going to be on at 6.30. I pray that
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Speaker 1: he will be on. I pray that everything's okay in
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Speaker 1: his world. Let's start off with that positive note here.
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Speaker 1: So maybe Tech Friday, and if we do get Tech
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Speaker 1: Friday with Dave Hatter, we'll talk about the new Apple
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Speaker 1: Watch feature that is creeping people out. Jesus, if the
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Speaker 1: concept of artificial intelligence alone creeping literally everyone out, and
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Speaker 1: rightfully so, we've got a watch now we can have
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Speaker 1: to worry about. Anyway, they confided in chat GPT, and
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Speaker 1: the secrets ended up in court. Oh, and you know,
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Speaker 1: I haven't read the substance behind that particular story, but
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Speaker 1: think about it. Someone is offering thoughts, comments, and perhaps
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Speaker 1: evidence to some artificial intelligence bot that they think is
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Speaker 1: a real human being, why wouldn't you be able to
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Speaker 1: subpoena that information and get it?
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Speaker 3: Hmm.
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Speaker 1: There's something for you to think about. How honest are
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Speaker 1: you being with ChatGPT? Are you telling ChatGPT things that
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Speaker 1: you wouldn't even tell your spouse or your friends and family? Probably.
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Speaker 1: That's creepy stuff. FBI probes service selling. The 153 million
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Speaker 1: driver's licenses that are out there floating around the world,
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Speaker 1: I have tried to find if there is a database
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Speaker 1: out there that lets you know if you're one of
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Speaker 1: the 153 million people who had their driver's licenses taken.
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Speaker 1: As of yesterday, when I tried to find it, there
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Speaker 1: isn't one. So hopefully at some point there will be accessible,
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Speaker 1: like a Pwned, have you been Pwned website, where you
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Speaker 1: can find out whether any of your information, personal or otherwise,
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Speaker 1: has been released online. Hopefully, we'll have that information at
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Speaker 1: some point, too. Obviously, a lot of very important stuff
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Speaker 1: on your driver's license, and people can use it for
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Speaker 1: nefarious purposes, which is why it has value like everything
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Speaker 1: on the Internet. God bless you, Dave Hatter. Fast forward
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Speaker 1: to 705, Jeffrey Robinson with the book, Ash and Honor.
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Speaker 1: Perfectly timed, Joe Strecker. Thank you. The untold 368 minutes
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Speaker 1: of 9-11. And if you feel, if you would like
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Speaker 1: an open morning here, um, if you want to comment
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Speaker 1: on where you were at the moment, uh, that you
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Speaker 1: found out about nine 11, I, when I was a kid,
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Speaker 1: it was always, where were you when Kennedy got assassinated? Well,
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Speaker 1: I wasn't even in the womb. I don't even know
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Speaker 1: that I was an idea in my dad's head at
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Speaker 1: the moment. Cause I was born at 65. So I,
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Speaker 1: had no sort of frame of reference. The only other
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Speaker 1: comparable frame of reference I ever had was when Reagan
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Speaker 1: got shot. And if I recall correctly, and I think
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Speaker 1: I do, I was on my way to school. I
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Speaker 1: was being driven to school by my mom. At least
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Speaker 1: when I first found out about it. I don't know
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Speaker 1: if the timing is accurate, but yeah, Reagan got shot. Thankfully,
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Speaker 1: he didn't die. But 9-11 is that moment in my
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Speaker 1: life and in my time that I certainly at least
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Speaker 1: If I had to put my head to it, more
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Speaker 1: than any other event that was like, wow, wow. And
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Speaker 1: you knew exactly where you were. Anytime somebody asked you,
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Speaker 1: I was driving to Indianapolis to go to a legal
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Speaker 1: meeting for Anthem at the time when I was litigation
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Speaker 1: attorney for Anthem, Blue Cross and Blue Shield. And I
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Speaker 1: heard it first from, of all places, the Bob and
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Speaker 1: Tom show. And as I've mentioned previously in other 9-11 anniversaries,
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Speaker 1: the way they were reporting it, because they got it
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Speaker 1: secondhand from somebody else who said it A plane flew
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Speaker 1: into a building. And I just immediately thought it was
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Speaker 1: like some Cessna 172 or some sort of small aircraft.
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Speaker 1: Never had any idea that it was a jet. And
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Speaker 1: once I got to Indianapolis and arrived at my destination,
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Speaker 1: the legal department at Anthem, basically every eye was glued
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Speaker 1: to the television or every eye was glued to whatever
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Speaker 1: media source they were getting. And we were all basically
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Speaker 1: told that we're packing it up and going home and
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Speaker 1: spending time with our family. And that's exactly what happened.
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Speaker 1: 5 1 3 7 4 9 50 500 800 8
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Speaker 1: 2 3 talk pound 550 on AT & T phones.
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Speaker 1: After Jeffrey Robinson with his book, Ash and honor, uh,
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Speaker 1: we're going to have Jack Windsor on the program. And
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Speaker 1: if you are friends with Jack Windsor on Facebook or
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Speaker 1: just follow him, you got the video right there. Amy Acton.
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Speaker 1: Now there's more video to come. This is one angle
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Speaker 1: and it's not the, um, the alleged would be assassin,
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Speaker 1: at least as the acting campaign wanted you to believe, uh,
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Speaker 1: Just the reaction from the people in the crowd who
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Speaker 1: apparently got bumped into by this Havas guy. Yeah, it
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Speaker 1: really was a non-event, folks. And it may have been
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Speaker 1: at the security detail. Actually, the people are the ones
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Speaker 1: that knocked the folks in the audience down as opposed
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Speaker 1: to the Havas guy. Who, again, was not brandishing firearms
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Speaker 1: at the time he approached Amy Acton with his cell phone.
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Speaker 1: And if you have time, over at Washington Examiner, the
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Speaker 1: Washington Examiner newspaper, ex-health official running for Ohio governor missed
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Speaker 1: COVID meetings, say the staff. That's the headline, Dr. Amy Acton.
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Speaker 1: There are five staff members, all anonymous, not named in
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Speaker 1: the article, and I will point that out, who talk
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Speaker 1: about Amy Acton basically being incapable of dealing with the
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Speaker 1: role that she was charged to deal with. Over a
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Speaker 1: short period of time, she was medical director of just
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Speaker 1: a really tiny window. If you look back on it,
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Speaker 1: you're like, wow, this She really wasn't in that role
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Speaker 1: very long. But balled up in a fetal position, I
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Speaker 1: think was one of the reports from one of these
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Speaker 1: folks that you get curled up into a ball on
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Speaker 1: the floor before one of the emergency response meetings. Remember
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Speaker 1: those when she would come out with her white coat,
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Speaker 1: stand next to Governor DeWine and talk about locking things down? Well,
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Speaker 1: if you read the accounts of the staff that worked
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Speaker 1: with her at the time, wow, we're not going to
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Speaker 1: be well served by a Governor Amy Acton if she
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Speaker 1: couldn't handle dealing with the simple task of literally reading
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Speaker 1: a script to the cameras. There's one account of her. Listen,
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Speaker 1: you know, all she had to do was go out
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Speaker 1: in front of the cameras and read something, and she
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Speaker 1: could not even handle that. She was freaked out in
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Speaker 1: the back room. I'm boiling it down, folks. The article
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Speaker 1: and the information and the quotes from these people is
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Speaker 1: all there for you to read the Washington Examiner. But
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Speaker 1: it's kind of funny because my reaction when I see
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Speaker 1: Amy Acton, even in a campaign ad on her behalf,
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Speaker 1: when she is on camera responding, I know she doesn't
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Speaker 1: answer questions, but when she is captured on camera by
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Speaker 1: news reporters, Does she instill in you a sense of
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Speaker 1: confidence at all? I mean, for me, no. And it's
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Speaker 1: not because of my political bias against whatever the hell
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Speaker 1: is she's running on. And I'm still in the dark
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Speaker 1: on that. Yes, I am enamored with Ramaswamy. I think
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Speaker 1: he's going to do a great job if he's governor.
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Speaker 1: He's a successful business person. He's got that. He navigated
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Speaker 1: the crap that you've got to navigate in the state
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Speaker 1: of Ohio to even run a business, let alone become
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Speaker 1: successful in it. He knows where the skeletons are. He
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Speaker 1: knows what needs to be fixed, presumably. And I believe
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Speaker 1: him when he says he wants to fix all that.
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Speaker 4: Acton, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I just, when I hear her talk, when I see
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Speaker 1: her and I hear these accounts or never rather read
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Speaker 1: these accounts, it all sounds consistent with what I perceive
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Speaker 1: to be Amy Acton, which is generally incompetent. She wasn't
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Speaker 1: even a doctor to practice medicine. And there was a
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Speaker 1: comment or two, or at least there's some reporting about
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Speaker 1: the white lab coats, which the article points out, you know,
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Speaker 1: she's not a doctor. She never practiced medicine. Why in
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Speaker 1: God's name was she wearing white lab coats? Well, to
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Speaker 1: suggest or present the impression that she actually was a, well,
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Speaker 1: trained physician. But she kept a whole bunch of them
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Speaker 1: in the back room, apparently. So she always had a
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Speaker 1: clean one to dawn before she went out in front
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Speaker 1: of the cameras. Yeah, not a whole lot of substance
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Speaker 1: to this woman. This is really the takeaway you get
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Speaker 1: from this article. Plus, the other takeaway, maybe no substance,
9:05
Speaker 1: but also incapable of dealing with day-to-day pressure. You know,
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Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting that I can manage the role of
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Speaker 1: governor of the state of Ohio. He asked me to
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Speaker 1: be governor of the state of Ohio. I said, wow,
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Speaker 1: you know, that's a plate full of work. That's a
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Speaker 1: lot of work.
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Speaker 2: She quit.
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Speaker 1: After a few months on the job. She quit. Couldn't
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Speaker 1: handle that. Can't handle a debate with her challengers. Or
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Speaker 1: that's my conclusion. Can't handle the debate. That's where I
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Speaker 1: am left. My conclusions are she can't handle it. That's
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Speaker 1: why I've been calling her a coward. But the sum
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Speaker 1: total of what we know about her, a couple with
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Speaker 1: seemingly some confirming accounts from people that work with her,
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Speaker 1: this is a woman who's not capable of managing the job.
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Speaker 1: And I'm really wondering why in God's name a woman
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Speaker 1: with this level of frailty, if I want to put
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Speaker 1: it that way, a man could be equally as frail.
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Speaker 1: But why don't Does she think she wants the job?
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Speaker 5: Hey, life is good, you know?
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Speaker 1: Good to hear.
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Speaker 5: 9-11, I was working up at King's Mills Army Reserve Center.
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Speaker 5: I was working on a truck and realized at 9
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Speaker 5: o'clock that our world had changed. We all stopped and
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Speaker 5: watched the TV as the events unfolded, and eventually it
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Speaker 5: did affect everybody's life in there.
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Speaker 4: It was cool.
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Speaker 5: I mean, cool by we all were prepared and we
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Speaker 5: knew what we were supposed to do.
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Speaker 3: It was good.
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Speaker 4: And that's it.
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Speaker 1: You know, I do not remember at all sort of
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Speaker 1: stepping back from it and kind of sizing it up
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Speaker 1: from the geopolitical gravity that we came to find out
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Speaker 1: that it really meant. And it was almost like a
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Speaker 1: state of disbelief. Like, geez louise, planes flew into the
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Speaker 1: Twin Towers. I mean, I couldn't really get my head
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Speaker 1: beyond the destruction that I was watching. I just didn't
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Speaker 1: step back from it and think, you know, This is
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Speaker 1: like war on America kind of thing. I think it
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Speaker 1: took probably a day for me to recognize the broader
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Speaker 1: political significance.
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Speaker 5: I don't know. It was definitely something. Hey, by the way,
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Speaker 5: on that crash down in Miami from Prime Air, all
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Speaker 5: the pilots called that agency Prime Scare. And Because they
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Speaker 5: have a habit of hiring foreign pilots, and they also
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Speaker 5: have a horrific safety record, as well as huge numbers
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Speaker 5: of pilots being fired or sighted.
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Speaker 1: Oh, and that's the company that owned the aircraft that
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Speaker 1: overshot the runway?
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Speaker 5: That's correct. Matt Walsh has a brilliant podcast on it.
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Speaker 5: from two days ago if you watch it on youtube
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Speaker 5: breaks it down they did have a tailwind that was
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Speaker 5: pretty huge but they were they should have been doing
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Speaker 5: go around they had five missed opportunities from warnings inside
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Speaker 5: the cockpit well.
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Speaker 1: Yeah well the thing that i was blown away when
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Speaker 1: uh when jay rotha was talking about it yesterday was
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Speaker 1: that the And I had read it as well, but
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Speaker 1: the repeated warnings, I guess it was from the co-pilot about,
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Speaker 1: you know, you need to pull up and do a
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Speaker 1: loop around and try it again. We're going too fast.
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Speaker 1: I guess he gave that warning to the pilot, what,
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Speaker 1: a couple times and was completely ignored?
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Speaker 5: Well, the aircraft was given the co-pilot the warnings. You
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Speaker 5: need to go around because all the warning indicators on flying,
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Speaker 5: low terrain and all those were kicking off, and the
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Speaker 5: pilot just disregarded. And they're still kind of. on who
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Speaker 5: was piloting, but somebody was calling it out, and the
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Speaker 5: other person who was actually in control, total disregard. And
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Speaker 5: the other thing is, if you listen to the radio traffic,
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Speaker 5: their communications almost unintelligible, because they're talking in a thick,
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Speaker 5: heavy accent, you know? So somebody had to explain what
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Speaker 5: they were saying, because You know, I couldn't understand it.
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Speaker 5: And I'm from an aviation background, used to talking to ACCT.
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Speaker 1: And English is the universal language for global air travel.
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Speaker 1: Am I right?
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Speaker 5: It is. But when you have pilots that are flying
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Speaker 5: from country to country, it's not that uncommon to have
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Speaker 5: foreign pilots.
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Speaker 3: Of course.
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Speaker 1: It's only foreign from our perspective. Other countries, they view
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Speaker 1: us as the foreigners. So, yeah.
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Speaker 4: Of course.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: But very hard to understand them, you know. And, again,
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Speaker 5: he was kind of comparing this. Amazon is hiring subpar
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Speaker 5: contractors to hire pilots that are subpar.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 1: Now, I have no information to either confirm or to
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Speaker 1: refute that, but let me ask you this. In that podcast,
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Speaker 1: in the analysis, was it stated directly or merely suggested
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Speaker 1: that the ability to speak English or the accent was
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Speaker 1: a contributing factor to the crash? It sounds to me
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Speaker 1: like the plane was just going too damn fast and
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Speaker 1: they ignored warnings that anybody can understand. Did their ability
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Speaker 1: to speak articulate English have an impact? Was it directly
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Speaker 1: or a corresponding factor in the crash itself?
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Speaker 5: It was only suggested, but they let you listen.
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Speaker 1: That's kind of what I thought. Yeah, it's suggested. You
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Speaker 1: can throw it out there. I'm just trying to play
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Speaker 1: devil's advocate on a certain level. That's just kind of
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Speaker 1: what I do. Gary, God bless you, man. Appreciate you
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Speaker 1: And a very happy Friday, too. I've got some good
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Speaker 1: plans for the weekend. And you can feel free to call,
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Speaker 1: and I look up, and I see things are all
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Speaker 1: right with the world. Tom's on the line. Tom, welcome back,
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Speaker 1: my friend. Happy Friday.
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Speaker 7: Hey, good morning. I was at Hughes Hall in Miami
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Speaker 7: University on 9-11. And I remember somebody, the building had
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Speaker 7: a lot of people, university people working in it. We
18:18
Speaker 7: would like to have a portion of a floor blocked
18:21
Speaker 7: off for construction and working in there. But I remember
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Speaker 7: walking through the building, and there were three or four
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Speaker 7: people gathered around a particular office. The door was open,
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Speaker 7: and I heard some chatter, and that's when I first
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Speaker 7: learned about what was going on. I'd known these people,
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Speaker 7: seen them, and bumped into them and all that, so
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Speaker 7: I'm like, what's going on? And somebody had it pulled
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Speaker 7: up on their computer. That was.
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Speaker 7: That was what was going on. So, yeah, pretty– kind
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Speaker 7: of a jolt to the system. And the more– the
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Speaker 7: weirder part or the– I guess the time when it
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Speaker 7: really hit home a couple of days later, I was
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Speaker 7: down in Florence working near the airport and not a
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Speaker 7: single plane in the sky. And that– when you're working–
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Speaker 7: you kind of know where the flight paths are for CBG.
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Speaker 7: And if you've been down there and around that area,
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Speaker 7: you kind of know you're going to hear a plane
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Speaker 7: like every minute and a half either taking off or
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Speaker 7: landing and nothing, absolutely no air traffic. And that was
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Speaker 7: when you realize, you know, this has really greatly affected
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Speaker 7: us and changed our world forever. So we're going to
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Speaker 7: have a– out here at this job site in Indianapolis,
19:45
Speaker 7: we're going to have a moment of silence. which is
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Speaker 7: kind of a big deal, four or five buildings. and
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Speaker 7: thousands of people out here. They've been announcing it for
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Speaker 7: the last few days. They're going to have a site-wide
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Speaker 7: thing where everybody stops. At 846, we'll have a moment
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Speaker 7: of silence. That's a good thing. Never forget. Remember the
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Speaker 7: ideals of And maybe not the actual people, but people
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Speaker 7: very much like that that were behind those attacks are
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Speaker 7: still alive and well today, and they still hate us.
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Speaker 7: They still want to bring this country down, and they
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Speaker 7: are actively working on things to do that. We have
20:27
Speaker 7: to stay vigilant, and I don't know if something like
20:32
Speaker 7: that's ever going to happen again. There's talk that they
20:37
Speaker 7: could do this or they could do that or whatever.
20:39
Speaker 7: That may or may not happen, but they are definitely
20:42
Speaker 7: trying to infiltrate our politics, and they have people with
20:48
Speaker 7: this like mind who are holding public office in our country.
20:53
Speaker 7: And that's kind of scary.
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Speaker 3: That is.
20:56
Speaker 7: But it's the truth. And these people are prominent, and
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Speaker 7: they are out there every day saying crazy stuff. that
21:05
Speaker 7: not too long ago, people would be like, there's no
21:08
Speaker 7: way that kind of thing is going to be accepted here. Well,
21:11
Speaker 7: it's accepted here, and part of the reason is we're
21:14
Speaker 7: letting it. There's enough people that are voting along with
21:17
Speaker 7: it for whatever reason.
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Speaker 3: I don't get it.
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Speaker 7: It doesn't make any sense.
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Speaker 1: Well, Tom, along those lines, I mean, we're 25 years
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Speaker 1: from 9-11. Obviously, we know the radical Islamic terrorists are
21:28
Speaker 1: behind all that, and the Democrat Party has been taken
21:31
Speaker 1: over by anti-Semites.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 7: Radical Islamist.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
21:36
Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
21:39
Speaker 7: Whether you like or don't like Israel, that usually is
21:44
Speaker 7: a great earmark to determine whether or not somebody is
21:47
Speaker 7: a radical Islam. But whether you like or don't like
21:50
Speaker 7: Israel or agree with don't like whatever, that's what– and
21:54
Speaker 7: I'm not against it, obviously. I mean, I think we
21:56
Speaker 7: should support them. They're our allies. But the fact that
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Speaker 7: they are so– so against the American way of life.
22:04
Speaker 7: That should be the first red flag. Wait, no, we
22:08
Speaker 7: can't go along with this. We cannot allow you to
22:11
Speaker 7: hold public office. Absolutely not. It shouldn't even really be
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Speaker 7: a debate. I don't know why it happens as much
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Speaker 7: as it does, but the only way to really make
22:20
Speaker 7: sure we don't let it keep happening and do something
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Speaker 7: about it is don't vote Democrat.
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Speaker 3: Have a great weekend.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, Tom, as always. Appreciate the sentiment.
22:28
Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It's... I don't think whether or not someone is in
22:34
Speaker 1: favor of the existence of Israel or not, you move
22:37
Speaker 1: away from that. And the impression that I'm getting from
22:40
Speaker 1: quite a few of these candidates, and again, the party
22:42
Speaker 1: of the Jewish people, Democrats, it's like black people always
22:46
Speaker 1: voting Democrat. It's sort of like baked in the equation.
22:49
Speaker 1: Paint with a broad brush. Who will Jews vote for?
22:51
Speaker 1: They're going to vote for Democrats. I've been that way
22:53
Speaker 1: all the time. I talk with my Jewish friends about it.
22:54
Speaker 1: I have many over the years. Like, why is it?
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Speaker 2: It's not the existence of Israel.
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Speaker 1: It's Jewish people. Anti-Semitism is directed at Jews, whether or
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Speaker 1: not Israel's out there or not. Now, you go ahead
23:08
Speaker 1: and try to figure that one out in your mind.
23:10
Speaker 1: I have never understood that. 535, 55 KRC Talk Station,
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Speaker 1: Stack is Stupid, coming up. Alternatively, phone calls if you
23:18
Speaker 1: want to share your remembrances of the moment in time
23:20
Speaker 1: when you learned of the 9-11 attacks. I welcome those
23:23
Speaker 1: conversations all morning. Keep your fingers crossed and powerful prayers
23:27
Speaker 1: for Dave Hatter and his family. Hoping he'll be able
23:29
Speaker 1: to join us at 630 right now. It looks like
23:31
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Speaker 1: Can you play John the Fisherman?
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Speaker 3: Yep.
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Speaker 1: It is 540.
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Speaker 4: It is 540.
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Speaker 1: Johnny doing the traffic. Joe Strecker rolling out John the Fisherman.
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Speaker 1: Good morning, Jeff. Joe and I were talking over the
24:09
Speaker 1: break there about, what do you remember about 9-11 when
24:11
Speaker 1: you first found out about it? And he was talking about,
24:15
Speaker 1: you have no idea when something like that hits the
24:17
Speaker 1: fan when you're producing the morning show. Because my dad
24:19
Speaker 1: was on the radio at the time, of course. And
24:22
Speaker 1: he said he didn't have any time to sort of
24:26
Speaker 1: take it in. And it was only until he got home.
24:29
Speaker 1: He said he spent the whole day here, and Joe
24:30
Speaker 1: put in an extra, extra long day, more than he
24:32
Speaker 1: normally puts in, which is too many hours anyhow. But
24:35
Speaker 1: he didn't get home until late in the day, and
24:36
Speaker 1: that's when he just sort of like, it all just
24:38
Speaker 1: kind of came into his head, and he decompressed. Dad was, what,
24:44
Speaker 1: you say he was in a state of delusion there,
24:46
Speaker 1: Joe Strecker? I had this conversation with my mom yesterday.
24:49
Speaker 1: I took her out to lunch. Good morning, Mom. And
24:52
Speaker 1: she did tell me this story, and I remembered it
24:53
Speaker 1: because she said, do you remember your dad? We were
24:56
Speaker 1: supposed to fly to France the next day. That will
24:59
Speaker 1: be 9-12. They had airline tickets to go to France.
25:05
Speaker 1: This big thing they had planned months in advance. It
25:08
Speaker 1: was going to be one of those boat trips, and
25:10
Speaker 1: you go along the little rivers, and you stop in
25:12
Speaker 1: towns and things like that. And dad's like, we're going tomorrow.
25:15
Speaker 1: Mom's like, no, we're not. Nobody's going to be flying.
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Speaker 2: He said, no.
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Speaker 1: Dad's idea was that since 9-11 terrorist attacks happened today,
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Speaker 1: 25 years ago, that the following day would be the
25:25
Speaker 1: safest day to ever fly on an airplane because everybody
25:29
Speaker 1: would be on heightened alert. Yeah, it didn't happen.
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Speaker 4: Dad.
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Speaker 1: I love you, Dad. I miss you so much.
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Speaker 9: 513-749-5500.
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Speaker 3: 800-823-TALK.
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Speaker 1: Pound 550 on AT & T phones. I got stupid
25:39
Speaker 1: in front of me. If you don't want to call,
25:41
Speaker 1: that's okay.
25:41
Speaker 9: Naked.
25:41
Speaker 3: It is Friday.
25:50
Speaker 1: So where are we? I'm not quite sure where we are.
25:54
Speaker 3: St.
25:54
Speaker 1: Augustine. Naked woman carrying a folding knife was arrested after
25:59
Speaker 1: she apparently threw a large glass vase at a passing
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Speaker 1: vehicle in St. Augustine. Cost $ 1, 000 worth of damage. 325
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Speaker 1: in the afternoon near Century Boulevard. A driver told deputies
26:10
Speaker 1: she was driving south. Saw the woman walking north along
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Speaker 1: the side of the road. Steered left to give her
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Speaker 1: wide berth. Vehicle passed. The woman allegedly turned, raised a
26:19
Speaker 1: large blue vase, and chucked it toward the front of
26:21
Speaker 1: the vehicle. Hit near the front passenger side. Debbie's documented
26:28
Speaker 1: dents and deep gouges, according to the report. Pieces of
26:30
Speaker 1: broken glass found across the hood, windshield wipers, roof, and trunk.
26:36
Speaker 1: Driver said she didn't even know the suspect, immediately contacted
26:39
Speaker 1: law enforcement, also provided dash cam footage. Of course, there's
26:42
Speaker 1: some of that capturing the encounter as well as the
26:44
Speaker 1: sound of the shattering base. Base estimated between 12 and
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Speaker 1: 15 inches tall, glass top to one and a half
26:51
Speaker 1: inches thick or one half inch thick. Deputy, of course,
26:56
Speaker 1: concluded it could have caused serious injury if it had
26:58
Speaker 1: hit the driver. Several calls came in to dispatch about
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Speaker 1: the naked woman walking along Century Boulevard. One caller said
27:06
Speaker 1: he approached her to offer assistance but backed away after
27:09
Speaker 1: noticing that she had that knife that I mentioned a
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Speaker 1: moment ago. Debatees located her walking without clothes along the
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Speaker 1: roadway with a small phony knife still clenched in her hand.
27:18
Speaker 1: Medically evaluated before being taken to jail. Charged with throwing
27:24
Speaker 1: a deadly missile into an occupied vehicle. Felony criminal mischief,
27:28
Speaker 1: another charge. Okay. This is interesting. Headline alone has got
27:38
Speaker 1: my attention, which is why it's here in the stack
27:39
Speaker 1: of stupid. Thank you, Joe Strecker. Catham County, Georgia, where
27:42
Speaker 1: authorities are searching for a man who's accused of trespassing
27:45
Speaker 1: on a private residence where he was using the pool
27:48
Speaker 1: and hot tub without permission. And let me read, and
27:52
Speaker 1: I'll say, quote, becoming infatuated with a rubber duck.
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Speaker 3: Phrasing.
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Speaker 1: Also stealing more than $ 1, 000 worth of pool towels. Police
28:03
Speaker 1: said surveillance video from this home showed an unidentified man
28:06
Speaker 1: trespassing quarter after 2 in the morning and 5.30 in
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Speaker 1: the morning, both on September 1st. According to the police
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Speaker 1: department in their social media posts, he trespassed onto the property,
28:19
Speaker 1: used their hot tub, became obsessed with their rubber duck,
28:24
Speaker 1: and stole the pool towels. Obviously not the biggest crime
28:27
Speaker 1: we've dealt with this month, but it has a lot
28:30
Speaker 1: of ick factors. So we'd like to find this guy
28:32
Speaker 1: so he doesn't do this to somebody else. Police at
28:35
Speaker 1: least have a sense of humor from time to time. Anyway,
28:38
Speaker 1: while at the home, a court employee said the video
28:39
Speaker 1: shows him taking a dip in the pool, then using
28:41
Speaker 1: the hot tub.
28:42
Speaker 3: Yeah.
28:43
Speaker 1: While there, quote, the man is caught on video becoming
28:46
Speaker 1: infatuated with the rubber duck. Close quote. Are we going
28:50
Speaker 1: to be left to our own imagination on what that
28:52
Speaker 1: infatuation entailed, Joe Strecker?
28:55
Speaker 10: There's no flag for us.
28:56
Speaker 1: Amen, brother. Anyway, yes, he took beach towels when he left.
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Speaker 1: They're asking if you recognize him. Please give the police
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Speaker 1: a call there. And yes, the article did not elaborate
29:08
Speaker 1: on what infatuated with the rubber duck actually meant. I'm
29:11
Speaker 1: drawing my own conclusions. You can draw yours. 545, 55 cares. Thanks, Joe.
29:18
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29:31
Speaker 1: Happy Friday. I said good morning to Jeff earlier. He
29:38
Speaker 1: always chimes in in anticipation. of hearing John the Fishman.
29:41
Speaker 1: At least a couple seconds worth of it. And he
29:42
Speaker 1: also referred a bunch of folks over to 55KRC. iHeart. com. Got
29:47
Speaker 1: their iHeartMedia app. And I've got some new listeners thanks
29:49
Speaker 1: to Jeffrey's referee referral. And good morning to those folks.
29:52
Speaker 1: And good morning again to Jeff. Thanks for passing along
29:54
Speaker 1: the information about the morning show. And the information about
29:58
Speaker 1: the stack is stupid, which apparently they get a kick
29:59
Speaker 1: out of, which I do too. I like to wake
30:01
Speaker 1: up at 5 o'clock hour and get things going before
30:03
Speaker 1: we dive into the head of your topics of the morning.
30:06
Speaker 1: Let's go to Florida. We always end up in Florida. Hey, look,
30:11
Speaker 1: it's a Florida naked guy story. We go to Cape
30:13
Speaker 1: Coral Police Department where officers responded to a home goods store.
30:18
Speaker 1: Quarter 11 in the morning for reports of a fully
30:20
Speaker 1: naked guy inside the store. When they got there, though,
30:23
Speaker 1: the officers were told to go next door to an
30:28
Speaker 1: Aldi store because the suspect apparently had walked in that
30:32
Speaker 1: direction and may have gone in there. Officers did locate
30:34
Speaker 1: the suspect standing near the entrance of the store and
30:38
Speaker 1: identified him as 43-year-old Billy Thomas, known to law enforcement.
30:45
Speaker 1: Officers detained him. Walking him back to the patrol car,
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Speaker 1: they noticed a pair of white shoes and a pair
30:49
Speaker 1: of underwear near the entrance of the HomeGoods store. That's
30:53
Speaker 1: when Thomas told the officers that those items belonged to
30:55
Speaker 1: him and said that his clothes, are you ready? His
30:58
Speaker 1: clothes had started smoking and that the bicycle he was
31:02
Speaker 1: riding also started smoking as well.
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Speaker 11: What?
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Speaker 1: Apparently the police never located the bicycle. Woman inside the
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Speaker 1: home goods at the time of the incident told officers
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Speaker 1: she saw him enter the store, walk into the aisle
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Speaker 1: where she was standing and say, quote, I'm sorry. I
31:22
Speaker 1: have to do this. After which he dropped his pants,
31:27
Speaker 1: exposing himself. Store employee also confirmed that Thomas had been
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Speaker 1: naked in the store. He was arrested, now facing charges
31:35
Speaker 1: of indecent exposure. I said he was known to law enforcement.
31:38
Speaker 1: Lee County Sheriff's Office records show that Thomas had been
31:41
Speaker 1: arrested at least 28 times in Lee County since 2002.
31:49
Speaker 1: Details of the prior arrest, not reported. Ah, Tukwila, Washington,
31:55
Speaker 1: where a man was taken to the hospital, apparently because
31:57
Speaker 1: of a mental health, for a mental health evaluation. Police
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Speaker 1: said he was found walking naked, right, near an elementary school,
32:06
Speaker 1: right after the school let out. About 2.30 in the afternoon,
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Speaker 1: officers saw a totally nude adult male acting erratically while
32:12
Speaker 1: walking northbound on Tukwila International Boulevard. Numerous children were in
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Speaker 1: the area on foot because school just let out. It
32:20
Speaker 1: was obvious the man was in the middle of a
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Speaker 1: mental health crisis. At least the police concluded that. As
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Speaker 1: the man approached the elementary school, officers detained him without incident,
32:28
Speaker 1: called for the fire department and an aid car. Officers
32:33
Speaker 1: received a tarp to cover the guy until he'd be
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Speaker 1: taken by an ambulance. He did become combative. He spit
32:38
Speaker 1: on the patrol sergeant while struggling against restraints, ultimately transported
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Speaker 1: to the hospital for involuntary commitment, mental health evaluation. Department
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Speaker 1: of State officers previously contacted the same guy in relation
32:50
Speaker 1: to a theft he was suspected of. In that earlier incident,
32:52
Speaker 1: police said he also acted erratically, was involuntarily committed to
32:56
Speaker 1: his mental health state, and was arrested via citation.
32:59
Speaker 8: Huh.
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Speaker 1: A lot of people think that we have a huge
33:01
Speaker 1: mental health crisis in this country and that mental health
33:04
Speaker 1: is definitely needed and we need a place to put
33:06
Speaker 1: people who are struggling with mental health issues because, well,
33:09
Speaker 1: the Kennedy administration decided after reading One Flew Over the
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Speaker 1: Cuckoo's Nest, that all mental health institutions were run by
33:14
Speaker 1: people like Nurse Ratched and were abusing everyone, which is
33:17
Speaker 1: certainly not the case. I will note that their record
33:21
Speaker 1: was not exactly clean, but at least they were being
33:23
Speaker 1: taken care of and kept out of larger groups of
33:27
Speaker 1: society where they were maybe doing harm to other people.
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Speaker 1: Jeremy Brock. We're in Springfield for this one. Arrested for
33:38
Speaker 1: public indecency after police said they found... found him standing
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Speaker 1: naked on a sidewalk near the intersection of East High
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Speaker 1: Street and Mary Street, directly across the street from Catholic
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Speaker 1: Central School, where children were in fact present.
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Speaker 3: Dude, what the hell?
33:55
Speaker 1: Brock, speaking with officers, said he was scared and repenting
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Speaker 1: of his sins. 10 after 9 o'clock in the morning
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Speaker 1: is when officers were flagged down, a bystander reporting this
34:06
Speaker 1: naked guy was in the area. Multiple calls came into
34:08
Speaker 1: dispatch talking about this naked guy walking around. After being located,
34:11
Speaker 1: he initially asked to be taken to the hospital, prompting
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Speaker 1: officers to call for a medic. They put him in
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Speaker 1: the back of the patrol cruiser, found his clothing on
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Speaker 1: a different street. After returning the clothing to Brock and
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Speaker 1: he dressed himself, he refused hospital transportation and was taken
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Speaker 1: to custody. He was on probation at the time of
34:31
Speaker 1: the incident. Booked into the Clark County Jail.
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Speaker 4: 555.
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Speaker 1: 55KRC, the talk station. Plenty to talk about at 6
34:40
Speaker 1: o'clock hour. I'd love to hear from you. If you
34:41
Speaker 1: have recollections of 9-11, it is the sad anniversary of 9-11,
34:46
Speaker 1: the tragedy that happened 25 years ago. Maybe you have
34:49
Speaker 1: a story to share. Got some commentary and opinions on that,
34:53
Speaker 1: but that's not all. We've got a whole lot to
34:54
Speaker 1: talk about. And again, a call for prayer from my
34:57
Speaker 1: listening audience for Dave Hatter and his family. He let
35:00
Speaker 1: Joe and I know this morning he was on his
35:02
Speaker 1: way to the hospital with his wife. We don't know why,
35:04
Speaker 1: and we're praying to God that it's nothing serious, but
35:06
Speaker 1: it did call into question whether Dave would be able
35:08
Speaker 1: to make it. Coming up at 6.30, if you pray,
35:12
Speaker 1: we might get our much-needed Tech Friday segment. If not, well,
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Speaker 1: we're still going to hope that everything works out for
35:18
Speaker 1: Dave and his family. I'll be right back after these words.
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Speaker 2: At the top of the hour, hear the top story.
35:24
Speaker 1: 606 at 55KRC, the talk station. Trying to make it
35:29
Speaker 1: a happy Friday, and I'm dealing with the 25th anniversary
35:32
Speaker 1: of 9-11. Everything that goes along with that, emotional baggage, remembrance,
35:36
Speaker 1: transformation of our country over time, the reaction, and, of course,
35:41
Speaker 1: the continuing challenges we face globally with regard to insane
35:45
Speaker 1: people wanting to do bad things to, well, notably the
35:48
Speaker 1: United States of America. Of course, we're the great Satan
35:50
Speaker 1: in the world. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK, pound 550 on AT &
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Speaker 1: T funds. All of it unfolded over less than an
35:52
Speaker 1: hour and a half, it looks like. Steve, hold on
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Speaker 1: one moment. Someone has sent me a timeline, and I remember, again,
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Speaker 1: I'm driving up to Indianapolis at the time. It was
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Speaker 1: 8.46 in the morning when American Airlines Flight 11 hit
36:11
Speaker 1: the North Tower. Fifteen minutes later, 9.03, that's when Flight
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Speaker 1: 175 United Airlines hit the South Tower. 9.37, less than, well,
36:23
Speaker 1: it was about 45 minutes after the first one. That's
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Speaker 1: when American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the western side
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Speaker 1: of the Pentagon. One hour after the first attack, 9.45
36:32
Speaker 1: in the morning, FAA closed U.S. airspace. And that was
36:36
Speaker 1: a wild revelation from Jay Radliff yesterday. I didn't realize,
36:39
Speaker 1: and he pointed out that the head of the FAA,
36:42
Speaker 1: I guess, was his first day on the job. And
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Speaker 1: he's the one that ordered all the aircraft to get
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Speaker 1: out of the skies. And Jay attributes... I mean, it
36:50
Speaker 1: was brilliant for him to do that. You get all
36:51
Speaker 1: the air traffic out of the skies. Everyone who's not
36:54
Speaker 1: a terrorist lands their plane, leaving, of course, planes that
36:59
Speaker 1: were taken over by terrorists still flying around. And, of course,
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Speaker 1: that's United Airlines Flight 93, which ultimately landed and crashed, rather,
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Speaker 1: into the Shanksville, Pennsylvania field. because of the heroism of
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Speaker 1: folks on the plane who knew exactly what was going on.
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Speaker 1: And can you imagine the horror of that? You're on
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Speaker 1: a damn airplane that's been hijacked. You have already been
37:23
Speaker 1: told that other aircraft had been used as kamikaze airplanes,
37:28
Speaker 1: basically missiles. And the other thing that Jay pointed out,
37:32
Speaker 1: no one in the government even anticipated a plane being
37:35
Speaker 1: used as a weapon. They were worried about the traditional
37:39
Speaker 1: terrorist takeovers of planes where, you know, maybe you have
37:41
Speaker 1: a surface-to-air missile or something like that. But all these
37:43
Speaker 1: warnings that were coming out ahead of time about Osama
37:45
Speaker 1: bin Laden specifically and that he was going to do something,
37:49
Speaker 1: we don't know what, but he's going to do something.
37:51
Speaker 1: So they were all on heightened alert. Nobody thought of
37:53
Speaker 1: the idea of the plane being used as a weapon.
37:57
Speaker 1: And as he was telling me that, I was like,
37:58
Speaker 1: how can I argue with that? I wasn't there at
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Speaker 1: the time. Maybe I wouldn't have been able to think
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Speaker 1: outside of the box. But we did have World War
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Speaker 1: II and kamikazes, didn't we? So, anyhow, today's the day,
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Speaker 1: 25 years. Steve, thanks for indulging me there and holding
38:12
Speaker 1: over the comments and calling in the morning show. Happy
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Speaker 1: Friday to you.
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Speaker 8: Happy Friday to you as well. Hey, that day was
38:20
Speaker 8: both kind of confusing and scary. At the time, I
38:23
Speaker 8: was working at.
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Speaker 4: St.
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Speaker 8: Luke East, the Fort Thomas Hospital, and I was functioning
38:31
Speaker 8: as the critical care clinical pharmacist. I was actually rounding
38:36
Speaker 8: to 1604. I remember it as clear as day. And
38:39
Speaker 8: I went in to check on fluids. There were some
38:43
Speaker 8: fluids that were being adjusted, and I wanted to check
38:45
Speaker 8: on that to make sure they did not run dry.
38:47
Speaker 8: And the gentleman that was in the room was about
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Speaker 8: the age I am now, probably in his 60s. And
38:54
Speaker 8: he was sitting up in bed intent on the television.
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Speaker 8: I had no clue what was going on. at that
39:03
Speaker 8: point in time and he said this is between the
39:06
Speaker 8: first and the second plane flew into the towers um
39:12
Speaker 8: as i was checking his fluids the second plane roll
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Speaker 8: hit the tower and because he was starting to tell
39:18
Speaker 8: me there's no way that's just an accident that couldn't
39:21
Speaker 8: have been an accident right um so it was he
39:26
Speaker 8: was he was very intent he was in there with
39:28
Speaker 8: a rapid heartbeat he probably did not need that, but
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Speaker 8: he ended up doing well. He was discharged maybe one
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Speaker 8: or two days later.
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Speaker 3: Did well.
39:36
Speaker 8: He was very alert and oriented.
39:38
Speaker 7: So here I am.
39:39
Speaker 8: I had no clue what was going on. And at
39:42
Speaker 8: the time, My full-time job was as a hospital pharmacist,
39:45
Speaker 8: but I was also the team pharmacist for a disaster team,
39:49
Speaker 8: the Disaster Medical Assistance Team, KY1. So I spent.
39:56
Speaker 7: The next— it was.
39:58
Speaker 8: A busy day, so I did not have time to
40:00
Speaker 8: see anything. I had no clue what was going on,
40:02
Speaker 8: but I was called up to my commander's, the team
40:06
Speaker 8: commander's office, which happened to be at the East. So
40:10
Speaker 8: I went up and saw him. And he's like, we
40:13
Speaker 8: need to assemble a team, it looks like, wanting us
40:15
Speaker 8: to get together.
40:16
Speaker 3: A team to go to New York.
40:20
Speaker 8: Turns out we didn't go.
40:21
Speaker 4: We sent a.
40:23
Speaker 8: Mental health officer and a logistics officer, but it wasn't
40:27
Speaker 8: a full team deployment.
40:29
Speaker 4: Because there was really nothing we could have done.
40:32
Speaker 8: We did not know what was going on. That was
40:34
Speaker 8: a very scary time.
40:36
Speaker 3: So I went home.
40:37
Speaker 8: I still didn't know. I went home and I was.
40:39
Speaker 8: I have like a go bag ready to go for deployment,
40:42
Speaker 8: but it needs to be fine-tuned before each deployment. Basically,
40:48
Speaker 8: it's hurricane deployment.
40:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it. It's like a natural disaster response,
40:52
Speaker 1: like power companies from all over the country all go
40:55
Speaker 1: directly to where the hurricane hit and knocked out power. Yeah,
40:58
Speaker 1: a community effort.
40:59
Speaker 8: I mean, there are basically no survivors, but we did
41:03
Speaker 8: not know what was going on. That was the big thing. And,
41:05
Speaker 8: of course, I was working. I did not... have access
41:08
Speaker 8: to radio or television until I was off work later
41:12
Speaker 8: that day. I mean, I worked an eight hour shift
41:14
Speaker 8: starting at six, went home and then tried to figure
41:18
Speaker 8: out what was going on from that. As I was
41:20
Speaker 8: like packing, ready to go. Like I said, we did
41:23
Speaker 8: not go anywhere, but you don't know. There's a lot
41:25
Speaker 8: of false alarms. That was a scary time. And it
41:29
Speaker 8: was amazing how, how little we knew up front.
41:32
Speaker 3: Yeah.
41:32
Speaker 8: At least I knew, but it was interesting.
41:35
Speaker 3: Very interesting.
41:36
Speaker 8: It, it brings chills to me to this very day.
41:41
Speaker 3: Yeah.
41:42
Speaker 1: You know, and Steve, and that, that reminds me of
41:45
Speaker 1: my personal reaction in nine 11 and how it impacted me,
41:48
Speaker 1: you know, broadly over my entire life. I think about
41:52
Speaker 1: the guys that jumped out of the window to me,
41:55
Speaker 1: that was emotionally devastating, but also it forced you to
42:00
Speaker 1: contemplate if you are in that position. And this is
42:02
Speaker 1: something that I've said many times over the years on
42:04
Speaker 1: the anniversary of nine 11, You are that guy. You're
42:07
Speaker 1: on the 90-whatever floor. You've got a raging inferno behind you.
42:12
Speaker 1: You have an empty or broken window in front of
42:15
Speaker 1: you and a giant life-ending plunge. Those are your choices,
42:20
Speaker 1: death from behind or the wing and a prayer hope
42:23
Speaker 1: that God and his infinite power is going to reach
42:26
Speaker 1: down and scoop your ass up as you fall through space.
42:32
Speaker 1: And that doesn't happen. You are put in a position
42:36
Speaker 1: to make that choice. What's going through your mind at
42:39
Speaker 1: that moment in time? Are you thinking about, oh, the
42:42
Speaker 1: gender of the person next door, what their religion might
42:44
Speaker 1: happen to be? All this petty, nonsensical, trivial stuff that
42:50
Speaker 1: divides us as a society each and every day, I
42:53
Speaker 1: guarantee you if you're stuck in that position, that is
42:56
Speaker 1: not going to be going to your head. What's going
42:58
Speaker 1: to be going through your head is probably, I miss
42:59
Speaker 1: my wife. I wish I was with my family. I
43:03
Speaker 1: wish I hadn't maybe done some maybe regrets about what
43:06
Speaker 1: you've done in life because you're contemplating your own end.
43:09
Speaker 1: It's right there in front of you. Your own end
43:12
Speaker 1: is in your hands and you're getting ready to make
43:14
Speaker 1: a jump because you are literally going to burn to
43:16
Speaker 1: a crisp if you take the opposite route. That is
43:21
Speaker 1: life altering. At least it was for me thinking about it.
43:25
Speaker 1: I think most of us should probably dwell on that
43:27
Speaker 1: kind of concept more. Like when I talk about Gate
43:30
Speaker 1: of Heaven Cemetery, contemplating the meaning and the value of life.
43:34
Speaker 1: Don't take it for granted, man. There but for the
43:36
Speaker 1: grace of God go I. Our number, everybody's number is
43:39
Speaker 1: going to come up at some point. And sometimes it's
43:43
Speaker 1: because some crazy, stupid, ideologically driven, religious fundamentalist nutcase thinks
43:51
Speaker 1: it's time for your life to end. Randomly decided in
43:53
Speaker 1: his infinite wisdom, we're going to just go ahead and
43:56
Speaker 1: kill a whole bunch of people in the name of what?
43:59
Speaker 1: In the name of what? Thank you, Steve. Appreciate the
44:03
Speaker 1: launch pad on that one. I had to get that
44:05
Speaker 1: one out of my system.
44:06
Speaker 4: Thank you.
44:07
Speaker 1: You're welcome, man. I appreciate you calling in. Folks, it's
44:10
Speaker 1: your opportunity as well to maybe vent your spleen or
44:13
Speaker 1: engage in some remembrance. But I cannot encourage you enough
44:16
Speaker 1: to sort of take my perspective since that day. And
44:18
Speaker 1: you know what? Wake up and be thankful you did.
44:22
Speaker 1: And quit being a jerk to your neighbors and friends.
44:27
Speaker 1: 615-55-KRC-D Talk Station. And call Jimmy Care Fireplace. 620-55-KRC-D Talk Station.
44:40
Speaker 1: Anniversary of 9-11. 25 years. Now, not that level of
44:46
Speaker 1: enthusiasm over the reality of it. And sad news, I
44:49
Speaker 1: must report, and I'm going to add again a request
44:53
Speaker 1: that people... maybe engage in a moment of prayer for
44:56
Speaker 1: the Hatter family. Dave Hatter is on his way to
44:58
Speaker 1: the hospital with his wife this morning. We don't know why.
45:00
Speaker 1: We don't know what the urgency is, but he did
45:02
Speaker 1: confirm he will not be doing a segment this morning.
45:05
Speaker 1: So obviously he's got a lot on his plate this morning.
45:08
Speaker 1: I certainly will miss having him on the program, but
45:10
Speaker 1: we can survive that. I just want to make sure
45:12
Speaker 1: that Dave and his wife and his family are all okay.
45:14
Speaker 1: So please just take a quick moment, quick prayer, Dave's direction.
45:20
Speaker 1: And without further ado, let's go to the phones. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK. John,
45:24
Speaker 1: thanks for calling this morning, and hopefully you have a
45:26
Speaker 1: happy Friday. Welcome.
45:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, good morning. I just wanted to call and start
45:32
Speaker 3: my segment out by saying, first of all, I was
45:36
Speaker 3: a survivor of the Twin Towers being exploded. I was
45:40
Speaker 3: on 5th and 15th in music school when... we heard
45:47
Speaker 3: the planes and saw the planes hit each tower.
45:51
Speaker 1: Hey, John, 5th and 15th, can I ask, because I
45:54
Speaker 1: don't remember what block that the Twin Towers were on.
45:57
Speaker 1: How many blocks away or how close were you to
46:00
Speaker 1: the tower?
46:00
Speaker 3: Well, the Twin Towers were kind of like in the
46:03
Speaker 3: lower village, even over kind of in the Tribeca area.
46:07
Speaker 3: And when I came out of school every day, you know,
46:11
Speaker 3: it would be sunny, and then I'd walk out, and
46:13
Speaker 3: the sun would be gone, and be, oh, man, it's cloudy,
46:15
Speaker 3: and then I'd always forget. Oh, that's right, the tower's.
46:18
Speaker 1: Blocking out the sun. And I'd always think.
46:22
Speaker 3: It was cloudy, and then I'd go, oh, my gosh,
46:25
Speaker 3: why don't you pay attention? It's like, it's just kind
46:27
Speaker 3: of funny. But I really, what I think the thing
46:34
Speaker 3: that people really, first of all, if there's, You know,
46:39
Speaker 3: I hear people talk about it and everything, and I
46:41
Speaker 3: was also a volunteer. I started out as a lumper
46:45
Speaker 3: in the opening and unloading, like, the Goodwill trucks and
46:49
Speaker 3: all the various trucks that came in, and then I
46:51
Speaker 3: got moved up to work actually right on Ground Zero
46:54
Speaker 3: itself with the cadaver dogs. And until you... I mean,
47:01
Speaker 3: you just can't imagine that kind of destruction. Like, if
47:05
Speaker 3: you see it on the news or.
47:07
Speaker 5: I mean, I.
47:08
Speaker 3: Talk about putting the fear of God in me, man.
47:11
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you.
47:12
Speaker 1: I imagine.
47:13
Speaker 3: It was unlike anything I've ever seen, you know. And,
47:17
Speaker 3: I mean, it was— I just think a lot of the
47:20
Speaker 3: volunteers kind of get overlooked because there were just so
47:23
Speaker 3: many volunteers there, and they were working so hard, and
47:27
Speaker 3: there was just so much confusion. But yet there was
47:30
Speaker 3: like a human element of people really, really bonding together
47:34
Speaker 3: in such a tragic situation. Yes. And one thing I
47:38
Speaker 3: think people don't realize is when you walked around the
47:41
Speaker 3: city after it happened, you saw all these missing posters,
47:47
Speaker 3: like missing persons posters, like such and such missing my daughter's.
47:52
Speaker 3: And that was so difficult because.
47:56
Speaker 5: In your heart.
47:58
Speaker 3: You knew that they weren't actually, I mean, they were missing,
48:02
Speaker 3: but they weren't coming back.
48:03
Speaker 1: You knew exactly what happened to them, right, right, right.
48:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you knew, and it was just all
48:09
Speaker 3: so horrible, and how they, I mean, and just all
48:15
Speaker 3: that asbestos just festering for days and days and days
48:21
Speaker 3: over this city. And just, you know, a lot of
48:26
Speaker 3: people don't talk about how, like, all of Chinatown was
48:30
Speaker 3: wiped out and so many other little mom-pa things. And
48:35
Speaker 3: one thing I really take away from that also that really,
48:38
Speaker 3: really makes me sad and really costs me a lot, because,
48:42
Speaker 3: you know, you and I are libertarians. That's one thing
48:44
Speaker 3: we definitely got in common. And I was kind of, like,
48:48
Speaker 3: going around saying, you know, it's horrible. It's the biggest tragedy,
48:53
Speaker 3: you know, that you can imagine. But don't give up
48:57
Speaker 3: your liberties, whatever. Right. Don't don't don't. And I was
49:01
Speaker 3: preaching that in my school. And I got to tell you, man,
49:05
Speaker 3: I took a lot of flack for saying, don't do it.
49:09
Speaker 3: Don't give up your liberties. You know, I actually had
49:12
Speaker 3: a date a few days after. Very, very pretty woman.
49:16
Speaker 3: And I was, you know, we were kind of discussed.
49:20
Speaker 3: and she's like, well, I don't mind giving up a
49:22
Speaker 3: few of my liberties, you know, just so we can
49:24
Speaker 3: be safe. And I was kind of like, well, you know,
49:27
Speaker 3: probably not a good idea for us to go out
49:29
Speaker 3: on a date. But don't ever give up your liberties,
49:33
Speaker 3: you know. Don't ever give up your liberties no matter what.
49:36
Speaker 3: Because if you– it's everybody's thing. We never got them back.
49:40
Speaker 3: Don't you remember when the airport– it's only going to
49:42
Speaker 3: be a couple months. It was like COVID. It's only
49:45
Speaker 3: going to be a few weeks. It's only going to
49:46
Speaker 3: be a couple months. Well, guess what? It never changed
49:51
Speaker 3: and nor ever will. And I just think people should
49:55
Speaker 3: come together and have a moment of– like you said,
49:59
Speaker 3: I mean– Having to make that choice, you know, do
50:02
Speaker 3: I jump, you know, a thousand feet, you know, to
50:06
Speaker 3: live or, you know, do I burn to death? And
50:11
Speaker 3: all the firemen coming up and all the policemen getting
50:14
Speaker 3: killed and all the policemen running in there and firemen
50:18
Speaker 3: getting killed, probably knowing they were going to die. I mean,
50:21
Speaker 3: knowing they were going to die. Again, unless you've seen
50:24
Speaker 3: something like that, and I hope nobody ever has to
50:27
Speaker 3: experience anything like that in this country again, I pray
50:30
Speaker 3: to God that nothing like that ever happens again. You
50:34
Speaker 3: cannot imagine it because I still suffer from from PTSD
50:39
Speaker 3: over because it was just so much to take in.
50:43
Speaker 3: I mean, you would just see like the tech trucks,
50:45
Speaker 3: dump trucks and the bulldozers and all that heavyweight equipment
50:50
Speaker 3: you might see doing big highways and bridges and with
50:54
Speaker 3: all the rubble. And it was the girders. They were,
50:57
Speaker 3: you know, there were still like 50 stories of just rubble,
51:01
Speaker 3: like 50 to 60 stories of rubble just piled up.
51:08
Speaker 1: John, it's folks like you that, well, it's folks like
51:10
Speaker 1: you that give us some sense of a positive outcome,
51:14
Speaker 1: even in the worst of possible times. There are people
51:16
Speaker 1: like you, the helpers, the folks running around, doing jobs,
51:19
Speaker 1: helping out their fellow man. And of course, cleaning up
51:22
Speaker 1: and risking their own lives and limbs to deal with
51:24
Speaker 1: the aftermath of that. That's kind of the beautiful reality
51:27
Speaker 1: we have. The country came together in unity. And maybe
51:31
Speaker 1: it's 25 years ago. Maybe it's the last time we
51:33
Speaker 1: were joined together in unity. Need to have a little
51:35
Speaker 1: bit more of that. Jesus, Lord, we don't need a
51:38
Speaker 1: 9-11 for us to get unified, right? Maybe just remembering
51:41
Speaker 1: what it was like and giving us some motivation to
51:43
Speaker 1: get together and hold hands in the name of the
51:45
Speaker 1: United States of America. Thanks, John. I appreciate those words, man.
51:49
Speaker 3: Well, I would like to just– hey, wait. I just
51:51
Speaker 3: want to leave on a happy note, though. Okay, so
51:54
Speaker 3: as I was on– because the first thing that was
51:57
Speaker 3: set up there was McDonald's. Okay, McDonald's had a stand
52:01
Speaker 3: right there, McDonald's. So I saw this beautiful woman with
52:06
Speaker 3: a picture of a German shepherd on her. She was
52:09
Speaker 3: just beautiful, and I said, well– What's the name of
52:15
Speaker 3: your dog? He goes, oh, that's my dog, Rockstar. You know,
52:17
Speaker 3: she was down there helping people. And it was just
52:20
Speaker 3: kind of funny because we got in line. She goes, oh,
52:21
Speaker 3: I don't really like McDonald's. I said, well, you know,
52:24
Speaker 3: we're getting in line to eat at McDonald's. And she
52:26
Speaker 3: bites into her cheeseburger, and she goes, you know, this cheeseburger,
52:30
Speaker 3: it's hot, it's juicy, it's cooked right, and it only
52:35
Speaker 3: took the biggest strategy in all of America for McDonald's
52:39
Speaker 3: to cook a hamburger right. Ah.
52:42
Speaker 1: Thanks, John. I appreciate the positive note, brother, especially on
52:45
Speaker 1: a Friday. Folks, you can feel free to call in again.
52:47
Speaker 1: No Tech Friday with Dave Hatter. Family Emergency with Dave.
52:50
Speaker 1: Prayers His Direction.
52:52
Speaker 4: Stick around.
52:52
Speaker 1: We've got lots to talk about. And, of course, it's 7.05.
52:55
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Robinson with his book, Ash.
52:57
Speaker 4: The Talk Station. 6.33.
53:00
Speaker 1: The Talk Station. Happy Friday. Sad Friday, though, despite the
53:05
Speaker 1: fact that I like to say happy Friday. No, Dave
53:08
Speaker 1: had her this morning, and again, prayer is his direction
53:10
Speaker 1: because he's apparently at the hospital with his wife right now.
53:13
Speaker 1: No idea why. So hopefully we'll get an update and
53:16
Speaker 1: we can report good news later in the program. Without
53:20
Speaker 1: further ado, we've got a couple of local stories to
53:22
Speaker 1: dive on into. Mom in custody after a five-year-old boy
53:25
Speaker 1: was taken from his Green Township daycare. Happened yesterday evening.
53:28
Speaker 1: 34-year-old Jody Littlefield, courted police. forcibly entered Arches Oak Hills
53:36
Speaker 1: Child Care and took off with her son, who she
53:38
Speaker 1: was ordered to stay away from. Say it's happened afternoon
53:44
Speaker 1: on yesterday on Bridgetown Road. Police said Littlefield forced her
53:47
Speaker 1: way into the Arches Oaks Child Care facility. They said
53:51
Speaker 1: she pushed past employees, grabbed her five-year-old boy and took
53:54
Speaker 1: off in a vehicle speeding across the lawn to get away.
53:59
Speaker 1: While bystanders apparently tried to stop her, court records show
54:02
Speaker 1: domestic violence civil protection had previously deemed Littlefield a danger
54:07
Speaker 1: to that child, ordering her to stay at least 500
54:10
Speaker 1: feet away with only strict, limited contact allowed. Green Township
54:15
Speaker 1: police officers quickly issued a countywide be-on-the-lookout alert, and about
54:19
Speaker 1: an hour later, a Cincinnati police spotted her car near
54:22
Speaker 1: Mount Adams. Officers said Littlefield initially refused to stop, and
54:27
Speaker 1: when she finally did, police said they had to use
54:29
Speaker 1: a taser on her and took her into custody. Fortunately,
54:32
Speaker 1: the boy was found unharmed and is now safely reunited
54:35
Speaker 1: with his father. Littlefield facing a mounting list of charges
54:39
Speaker 1: across two jurisdictions, including felony abduction, burglary, and child endangerment.
54:43
Speaker 1: Take it to the Hammond County Justice Center and we'll
54:45
Speaker 1: be in court this morning if you want to show
54:47
Speaker 1: up because you're not doing anything. Well, in the remaining moments,
54:57
Speaker 1: it's almost 635. How about this for a story? Let
55:00
Speaker 1: me read it. Quote, man taken to hospital after shooting
55:03
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati's West End neighborhood last evening, 1100 block of
55:06
Speaker 1: Lynn Street, 545 is when the shooting happened. Police said
55:09
Speaker 1: an adult man was taken into hospital with non-life-threatening injuries
55:12
Speaker 1: but didn't have further information on what led to the
55:14
Speaker 1: shooting and no suspect information has been released. End of story.
55:19
Speaker 1: 635 right now, 55KRC. Well, you're right, Joe. Thank you
55:24
Speaker 1: for the positive outlook, Joe Strecker. At least he didn't die.
55:27
Speaker 4: Good point.
55:31
Speaker 1: Well, where does that fall in Bobby's over and under
55:33
Speaker 1: for the three-day period beginning today through Sunday? That's one. Bobby,
55:39
Speaker 1: what was he, two yesterday? Halfway there, my friend.
55:42
Speaker 3: 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK.
55:43
Speaker 1: Cullen, Elect, I'm going to give you their number. Talk station. 640-855-CARE-CD-TALK-STATION. 513-749-5500-800-823-TALK.
55:55
Speaker 1: Go with pound 550 on your AT & T phones.
55:59
Speaker 1: 25th anniversary of the 9-11 terrorist attacks. And, of course,
56:03
Speaker 1: remembering all those amazing stream of emotions. I'm sure you
56:07
Speaker 1: all struggled with it at the time, and ever since then,
56:10
Speaker 1: I don't think it's made itself any... The passage of time,
56:12
Speaker 1: 25 years, hasn't made it really any easier for me
56:14
Speaker 1: to process the one thing that vividly is burned in
56:17
Speaker 1: my mind, and that's this guy jumping out of those windows.
56:19
Speaker 1: I don't have to go down that road again. I
56:21
Speaker 1: did it earlier in the program. But that, to me,
56:23
Speaker 1: is just.
56:25
Speaker 3: Horror.
56:26
Speaker 1: It's indescribable. I find it so difficult to even go
56:30
Speaker 1: back and see the video, if you can find the
56:32
Speaker 1: videos of the jumping man. And the thoughts that went
56:37
Speaker 1: through that guy's head or anybody else who was stuck
56:39
Speaker 1: in that position. Let's see what Pat's got this morning. Pat,
56:42
Speaker 1: welcome to the program. Happy Friday to you. Try to
56:44
Speaker 1: make it anyway.
56:45
Speaker 7: Good morning, Brian.
56:47
Speaker 3: You know, I.
56:48
Speaker 12: I eliminated the thought of that guy jumping out of
56:51
Speaker 12: my mind, and now that's come back. And all that
56:55
Speaker 12: does is mobilize even further the war of that moment
56:59
Speaker 12: because I was at home with my little girl, and
57:02
Speaker 12: my mom called me, and she was a Red Cross captain.
57:05
Speaker 12: And she said, Pat, turn on the TV. And that's
57:09
Speaker 12: all she said. And at the time, you know, she
57:13
Speaker 12: wasn't real sure whether she would get called to that
57:16
Speaker 12: situation being involved in a Red Cross, and she wasn't,
57:21
Speaker 12: because basically it was really recovery after one day, and
57:27
Speaker 12: it's something that was an act of war. Our generation's
57:30
Speaker 12: Pearl Harbor. You can look at it any way you want,
57:33
Speaker 12: but at least the Japanese attacked a military.
57:36
Speaker 3: Base, right?
57:37
Speaker 1: Good point.
57:39
Speaker 12: And so for anybody to ever forget that and to
57:42
Speaker 12: think that the people that did that are the kind
57:46
Speaker 12: of people that will lower themselves to the lowest common
57:49
Speaker 12: denominator to do what they feel is their justified direction.
57:55
Speaker 12: And eons ago, and I mentioned this to Joe, there
57:59
Speaker 12: used to be a magazine called Soldier of Fortune. And
58:02
Speaker 12: they went around the world looking at different aspects of
58:05
Speaker 12: military and civilians and religions even. And they warned about
58:10
Speaker 12: radical Islam in the 70s and 80s. And the only
58:13
Speaker 12: reason I ever found out about that magazine was a
58:16
Speaker 12: friend of mine's dad was a photographer, and I'd never
58:19
Speaker 12: seen him. And he was never around because he was.
58:22
Speaker 7: All over the world.
58:24
Speaker 12: And I read that thing, and the only way you
58:27
Speaker 12: could get it at the time was to go down
58:28
Speaker 12: to a kiosk in Cincinnati, back when it was great
58:32
Speaker 12: to go downtown Cincinnati and go to Fountain Square and
58:36
Speaker 12: enjoy the city of Cincinnati. And that has been deprived,
58:40
Speaker 12: has been taken away from us and preceding generations. And
58:45
Speaker 12: to me, that is criminal. But to ever think for
58:49
Speaker 12: one second that you can trust that radical idea, you
58:55
Speaker 12: can never do that.
58:56
Speaker 5: No.
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Speaker 1: And, you know, I cannot thank you enough for pointing out,
58:59
Speaker 1: you know, by contrast to Pearl Harbor. Yeah, maybe 9-11
59:02
Speaker 1: was our generation's Pearl Harbor. Those who remember it. You're right.
59:06
Speaker 1: It was a military target. This is what makes it
59:10
Speaker 1: so horrific, and this is what makes the whole idea
59:12
Speaker 1: of hitting the American targets, evil America. I'm fine. They
59:17
Speaker 1: can all collectively carry that belief that we're all evil.
59:20
Speaker 1: Those buildings were chock full of innocent people of all religions,
59:24
Speaker 1: all stripes, all ethnicities. There were Muslims that perished in
59:28
Speaker 1: 9-11 with the attacks. There were Christians. There were non-denominational folks.
59:32
Speaker 1: The one thing everybody shared was their collective innocence. These
59:37
Speaker 1: were not military people. They had no connection. I can
59:40
Speaker 1: say with a broad brush, nobody that died in the
59:42
Speaker 1: 9-11 attacks had anything to do with the United States'
59:45
Speaker 1: relationships with Arab communities or the Muslim nation, anybody. They're
59:51
Speaker 1: random people, arbitrarily picked. It's like scooping a... A handful
59:56
Speaker 1: of peanuts out of a giant jar of peanuts. How'd
59:58
Speaker 1: you end up with the ones in your hands? It
1:00:00
Speaker 1: was random. You know, maybe God's, I don't know. But
1:00:03
Speaker 1: that really just pisses me off about this.
1:00:06
Speaker 4: Inexcusable.
1:00:07
Speaker 1: And that anybody on this face of this earth could
1:00:11
Speaker 1: suggest for a moment that it was in some way justified.
1:00:14
Speaker 1: Like people talking about October 7th and the slaughter of
1:00:18
Speaker 1: elderly people and babies could be justified on any level. Well,
1:00:22
Speaker 1: they're Jewish. They're Israeli folks.
1:00:24
Speaker 13: Shut up.
1:00:26
Speaker 12: You know, that's what I call all-encompassing hatred of mankind.
1:00:31
Speaker 12: And to the, you know, one of the things that
1:00:33
Speaker 12: our media seems to forget that the Israelis were under
1:00:38
Speaker 12: constant bombardment from rockets and drones and everything like that
1:00:42
Speaker 12: from all these different people who were designed, formulated to
1:00:47
Speaker 12: hate them, to try to kill them. And for anybody
1:00:50
Speaker 12: to ever question, why do the Israelis come after them
1:00:52
Speaker 12: so hard? Well, when you can't even bathe in your kibbutz.
1:00:56
Speaker 12: Because you're getting rocketed, you're getting droned, attacked on a
1:01:01
Speaker 12: daily basis. How are you supposed to.
1:01:04
Speaker 3: Feel, Brian?
1:01:05
Speaker 1: Trust me, I get that all day long. And I'm sorry,
1:01:08
Speaker 1: I'm a bit remiss in my role as a host
1:01:10
Speaker 1: here to even move into the whole concept of the Israelis.
1:01:13
Speaker 1: I was just thinking the sense that someone is there
1:01:16
Speaker 1: enjoying a rock concert with their friends, and over the
1:01:19
Speaker 1: hill comes a bunch of people that want to murder them.
1:01:21
Speaker 1: No specific reason to want to pick that target to
1:01:24
Speaker 1: murder them other than the fact that they happen to
1:01:25
Speaker 1: be standing on Israeli soil.
1:01:26
Speaker 5: But whatever.
1:01:27
Speaker 1: Stick with 9-11. A bunch of innocent people were murdered
1:01:30
Speaker 1: by religious fundamentalists who could never in their wildest dreams
1:01:34
Speaker 1: justify killing innocent people. How could you? You don't even
1:01:38
Speaker 1: know them. You don't know what they're all about. You
1:01:40
Speaker 1: can't paint with a broad brush and say, well, they're Christians.
1:01:42
Speaker 1: They're in a Christian nation. No, we don't live in
1:01:44
Speaker 1: a theocracy. Anybody can worship whatever religion they want in
1:01:47
Speaker 1: this country. And I bet all kinds of religions stuffed
1:01:49
Speaker 1: inside the World Trade Center buildings are No connection with
1:01:52
Speaker 1: your crazy ideology, and yet you killed them anyway. It's
1:01:57
Speaker 1: still impossible for me to process. That's why that day
1:02:00
Speaker 1: was a life changer for me in terms of my
1:02:02
Speaker 1: perception of religion and our relationships between ourselves as human
1:02:06
Speaker 1: beings on this planet. Thank you, Pat, for calling. I
1:02:09
Speaker 1: do appreciate it. Getting a little outraged this morning. Joyce
1:02:11
Speaker 1: is on. Joyce is going to have to hang on.
1:02:13
Speaker 1: I'm out of time. It's 8-6-46. The 55KRC Detox Station. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK.
1:02:18
Speaker 1: Bound by 50 on AT & T Bounds. Nice bump, Joe.
1:02:27
Speaker 1: You know I love that band. Let's see what Joyce
1:02:29
Speaker 1: has got this morning. Joyce, thanks so much for calling
1:02:31
Speaker 1: the show this morning, and welcome to the program.
1:02:33
Speaker 14: Hey, good morning, Brian. First off, I want to say
1:02:36
Speaker 14: how lovely it was to meet you the other day
1:02:38
Speaker 14: at Listener Lunch. My husband and I were the ones
1:02:41
Speaker 14: that drove from Springfield. We taught guns at the end.
1:02:44
Speaker 1: Ah, Joyce, it was so cool meeting you. You drove
1:02:46
Speaker 1: an hour and a half to get to Turf Club.
1:02:48
Speaker 1: I just made my day. Yeah, it was so cool
1:02:51
Speaker 1: meeting you both. You're just a wonderful pair.
1:02:53
Speaker 7: Yeah, we had a great time.
1:02:56
Speaker 1: Your husband outkicked his coverage, Joyce. I'm going to remind
1:02:59
Speaker 1: him of that. I hope he appreciates you and recognizes that.
1:03:05
Speaker 14: Uh, he's a, he's a good dude. I got very
1:03:07
Speaker 14: blessed when I met him.
1:03:08
Speaker 1: You married smart.
1:03:09
Speaker 14: We were both widows. So we met each other late
1:03:11
Speaker 14: in life.
1:03:12
Speaker 15: Oh, wow.
1:03:13
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. Beautiful. Sorry for your losses, but it seems
1:03:16
Speaker 1: to have worked out well for you.
1:03:18
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:03:18
Speaker 14: God knows what he's doing.
1:03:19
Speaker 7: Yep. I, I'll leave it at that.
1:03:21
Speaker 14: But, uh, listen, you know, on nine 11, I was
1:03:23
Speaker 14: actually living in New York and my, my daughter still
1:03:27
Speaker 14: lives in Brooklyn. So I'm at, in the city fairly
1:03:31
Speaker 14: frequently because I have a grandson up there. Um, I
1:03:34
Speaker 14: will say that I lost two people. One was a
1:03:37
Speaker 14: very close friend of mine. He worked for Cantor Fitzgerald,
1:03:41
Speaker 14: and he left two little girls behind. And then another
1:03:45
Speaker 14: one was a firefighter that I actually dated a couple
1:03:47
Speaker 14: of times. He was a good guy, but it just
1:03:49
Speaker 14: didn't work out. So it was a very personal thing
1:03:53
Speaker 14: for me. I will say that I can't wrap my
1:03:57
Speaker 14: head around who they elected for mayor there in the
1:04:01
Speaker 14: city of 9-11. It's very troubling to me. that people
1:04:06
Speaker 14: have forgotten. And I don't know. I'm with you. When
1:04:11
Speaker 14: I see the people jumping out, you can't process that,
1:04:17
Speaker 14: you know, that choice that you have to make. You know,
1:04:22
Speaker 14: you're going to go either way. So which way do
1:04:24
Speaker 14: you go? But I don't know. I hope people will
1:04:29
Speaker 14: take this to heart and remember that there's people who
1:04:33
Speaker 14: Like you said, those people were innocent people. My friend, Freddie,
1:04:37
Speaker 14: he left two little girls behind that, you know, they
1:04:39
Speaker 14: were seven and nine. And, you know, they had to
1:04:43
Speaker 14: grow up without their dad. And all he did was
1:04:45
Speaker 14: kiss his wife goodbye and his girls and went to work.
1:04:48
Speaker 14: And then he never went home.
1:04:49
Speaker 1: Exactly.
1:04:51
Speaker 14: You know, I think that the message we all need
1:04:56
Speaker 14: to take is keep your family and your friends close
1:04:59
Speaker 14: to your heart. Love on them as much as you can.
1:05:02
Speaker 14: Always remember what people went through on that day. And
1:05:08
Speaker 14: always remember there's people still out there that hate us.
1:05:11
Speaker 14: And if they had a chance to do it again,
1:05:13
Speaker 14: they would do it again. And believe me, they're plotting
1:05:15
Speaker 14: right now.
1:05:16
Speaker 1: Well stated, Joyce.
1:05:19
Speaker 14: That's my remembrance of the day. So everybody just love
1:05:23
Speaker 14: on your family.
1:05:24
Speaker 1: Love on your family.
1:05:26
Speaker 8: Right.
1:05:26
Speaker 1: And if you find it difficult living in the moment
1:05:28
Speaker 1: and thinking about your family because you're wrapped up in
1:05:31
Speaker 1: life or what your neighbor's doing to piss you off
1:05:33
Speaker 1: or whatever, pause for a moment. Again, go back to
1:05:35
Speaker 1: the guy that was standing there looking out a broken
1:05:37
Speaker 1: window contemplating his own death. And I bet that man
1:05:41
Speaker 1: was probably thinking about his family, his spouse, his kids,
1:05:44
Speaker 1: not the petty, trivial crap that ends up absorbing every
1:05:47
Speaker 1: ounce of our energy as we live this life of ours.
1:05:50
Speaker 1: Let's think about the important stuff. Joyce, awesome message. And
1:05:53
Speaker 1: what a distinct pleasure it was to meet you and
1:05:55
Speaker 1: your husband at Listener Lunch. You too. I can't wait
1:05:57
Speaker 1: to see you again. You made my day. I look
1:06:00
Speaker 1: forward to seeing you again, hopefully soon. It is quite
1:06:02
Speaker 1: a drive for you. It's 6.55 right now, 55 KRC
1:06:06
Speaker 1: Talk Station, 25 year. 7.05 here at 55 KRC Talk Station.
1:06:13
Speaker 1: 25th anniversary of 9-11. Everybody my age, of course, remembers
1:06:17
Speaker 1: where they were at the moment that happened. They found
1:06:18
Speaker 1: out about it. And a man who knows all about it,
1:06:20
Speaker 1: maybe more than anybody else, My friend Jeffrey Robinson. Jeffrey
1:06:25
Speaker 1: Robinson is a widely published author. He is the best-selling author,
1:06:29
Speaker 1: specifically of more than 30 books, native of New York.
1:06:33
Speaker 1: Spent 37 years in Europe writing investigative nonfiction, feature journalism,
1:06:36
Speaker 1: short fiction novels, television documentaries, and radio dramas. He lives
1:06:40
Speaker 1: in New York City right now. Maybe he can comment
1:06:42
Speaker 1: on that. 25 years, fast forward. Zorhan Mamdami is now
1:06:46
Speaker 1: mayor of New York City, the epicenter of the 9-11 attacks. Jeffrey,
1:06:50
Speaker 1: it is a pleasure to have you on the 55KRC
1:06:51
Speaker 1: Morning Show.
1:06:53
Speaker 4: Brian, the pleasure is absolutely mine. I'm flattered. Thank you
1:06:56
Speaker 4: for having me on.
1:06:57
Speaker 1: The name of the book, Ash and Honor, The Untold
1:06:59
Speaker 1: 368 Minutes of 9-11. You interviewed a lot of people
1:07:03
Speaker 1: in talking with this, people that were directly in the know,
1:07:05
Speaker 1: for example, pilots and People in Bunkers, and you've got
1:07:09
Speaker 1: an amazing story to tell, and I'm going to recommend
1:07:11
Speaker 1: my listeners get a copy of your book. We made
1:07:12
Speaker 1: it really easy to do that. It's linked on my
1:07:14
Speaker 1: blog page at 55KRC. com.
1:07:16
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you.
1:07:17
Speaker 9: Oh, yeah, happy to do it. Can you ask them
1:07:20
Speaker 9: to each buy six copies?
1:07:21
Speaker 8: Yes.
1:07:22
Speaker 1: Jeffrey, you just did it. I've got a great listening audience.
1:07:25
Speaker 1: They may very well do it. Hand them out as
1:07:27
Speaker 1: Christmas gifts or birthday presents. I don't. This is not
1:07:32
Speaker 1: intended to put you on the spot, but I was
1:07:34
Speaker 1: thinking that you are a native New Yorker. This is
1:07:36
Speaker 1: your hometown. Clearly, this was very impactful in your life,
1:07:39
Speaker 1: as it was everybody else's, maybe obviously more so. Did
1:07:42
Speaker 1: you have a weird sense about Zoran Mamdami being mayor
1:07:45
Speaker 1: of New York 25 years after 9-11, which, of course,
1:07:48
Speaker 1: was obviously an act of terrorism by Muslim fundamentalists?
1:07:53
Speaker 9: Yeah, no, I stay out of the politics of all
1:07:56
Speaker 9: this stuff. But let me tell you about New York.
1:07:58
Speaker 9: I was living in London at the time. And I
1:08:01
Speaker 9: tried to get back as soon as I could. It
1:08:03
Speaker 9: took me three weeks because there were flights canceled and
1:08:05
Speaker 9: there were it was a whole mess to get back
1:08:08
Speaker 9: to New York. I got back about three weeks early
1:08:11
Speaker 9: October of 2001. And you'd walk down the street and
1:08:16
Speaker 9: total strangers would walk up to you and put their
1:08:19
Speaker 9: hands on your shoulders and say, how are you coping?
1:08:22
Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
1:08:22
Speaker 8: Yeah.
1:08:23
Speaker 4: That's not a New York thing.
1:08:24
Speaker 1: No, it isn't.
1:08:26
Speaker 4: How are you coping?
1:08:27
Speaker 9: A year later, on September 11, 2002, I got on
1:08:30
Speaker 9: an American Airlines flight, specifically on the anniversary, got back
1:08:34
Speaker 9: to New York, and saw that New York was back
1:08:37
Speaker 9: to New York. Hey, who are you talking to? Are
1:08:38
Speaker 9: you looking at me? Who do you think you're talking to?
1:08:42
Speaker 9: It took a year, but New York returned to being
1:08:44
Speaker 9: New York.
1:08:46
Speaker 1: That's actually a very comical element on this very tragic
1:08:49
Speaker 1: remembrance day. Can you speak of, I know you spoke
1:08:52
Speaker 1: with the pilot in the cockpit of the possible fifth plane.
1:08:56
Speaker 1: I was kind of curious to know about this fifth
1:08:58
Speaker 1: plane and what that pilot had to say. So let's
1:09:01
Speaker 1: start with that.
1:09:03
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm convinced as he was that it was the
1:09:05
Speaker 9: fifth plane. Man's name was Tom Manello. It was an
1:09:08
Speaker 9: Air Force pilot who was working for United Airlines. And
1:09:13
Speaker 9: in his right seat was a wonderful woman named Carol Timmons,
1:09:16
Speaker 9: also an Air Force pilot. who ended up, tragically, she
1:09:19
Speaker 9: died young. She ended up as a major general and
1:09:23
Speaker 9: commander of the Delaware Air National Guard. You know, these
1:09:26
Speaker 9: are pretty spectacular people. So he's sitting in, I think
1:09:30
Speaker 9: it was a 7-6, and he's on his way to
1:09:32
Speaker 9: Los Angeles. He said, good morning, ladies and gentlemen. We're
1:09:34
Speaker 9: pulling back from the gate, flying at such and such
1:09:37
Speaker 9: an altitude. Humidity is such, you know, the usual stuff.
1:09:41
Speaker 9: As he gets to the taxiway, Kennedy Tower calls him
1:09:45
Speaker 9: and says, there's been an incident in New York, an
1:09:49
Speaker 9: air accident.
1:09:50
Speaker 4: Fortify your cockpit. So, well, this is before the cockpits
1:09:54
Speaker 4: were formed.
1:09:55
Speaker 9: So he looks at Carol and he says, look, if
1:09:58
Speaker 9: somebody tries to break in, you take the fire extinguisher
1:10:01
Speaker 9: and I've got the fire axe. You hit him with that,
1:10:03
Speaker 9: I'll chop him up with the fire axe. And then
1:10:05
Speaker 9: she says, let's take our suitcases in the little closet here,
1:10:09
Speaker 9: put them behind our seats and that'll block the door
1:10:11
Speaker 9: from opening.
1:10:11
Speaker 4: So they do that.
1:10:13
Speaker 9: A few minutes later, Power calls down and says, we've
1:10:17
Speaker 9: been told to evacuate Kennedy.
1:10:20
Speaker 4: We're evacuating the tower.
1:10:21
Speaker 3: You're on your own.
1:10:22
Speaker 9: And he's sitting on the taxiway, and he's told, return
1:10:25
Speaker 9: to the gate. Well, there are a whole bunch of
1:10:28
Speaker 9: planes on the taxiway. But as they get up to
1:10:31
Speaker 9: the turning point to come back to the gate, from
1:10:36
Speaker 9: the plane, you can see the smoke rising over Manhattan.
1:10:40
Speaker 9: At that point, the head stewardess calls and says, Captain,
1:10:43
Speaker 9: we may have a problem here. There are four weird
1:10:47
Speaker 9: Arab gentlemen, young Arab gentlemen, she used the word weird,
1:10:50
Speaker 9: who are on their cell phones, and they're getting very agitated,
1:10:53
Speaker 9: and they want to know when we're taking off and
1:10:55
Speaker 9: why we're not taking off, and insisting that we take off,
1:10:57
Speaker 9: we must take off, we must take off. They get
1:10:59
Speaker 9: back to the gate, and he's worried about their safety
1:11:02
Speaker 9: and the safety of the other passengers. They get back
1:11:05
Speaker 9: to the gate, the door opens, these four guys disappear
1:11:07
Speaker 9: into the wind. Next thing that happens is he locks
1:11:11
Speaker 9: up the plane, goes up to base ops and speaks
1:11:13
Speaker 9: to the United head pilot up in base ops.
1:11:17
Speaker 4: And he explains the situation.
1:11:18
Speaker 9: The next morning, the FBI comes to visit him at
1:11:23
Speaker 9: home in Connecticut.
1:11:24
Speaker 4: They spent three hours with him talking about the incident.
1:11:27
Speaker 9: And all he knows is what he told me that,
1:11:29
Speaker 9: you know, the stewardess and they speak to the stewardess
1:11:31
Speaker 9: and these four guys, weird was the word she used.
1:11:35
Speaker 9: He is then told that his plane was broken into
1:11:39
Speaker 9: at night after he locked it up. Somebody got into
1:11:42
Speaker 9: the plane. And there's a way in under the wheel well,
1:11:45
Speaker 9: there's a trap door. But, you know, you have to
1:11:48
Speaker 9: know it's there. Somebody knew the aircraft and knew how
1:11:51
Speaker 9: to get into the plane. What they were looking for,
1:11:54
Speaker 9: nobody knows. Well, we do know because in the plane
1:11:57
Speaker 9: parked at the next gate, an exact replica of the 7-6,
1:12:01
Speaker 9: United 7-6 parked at the next gate. the cleaners come
1:12:05
Speaker 9: in and in the first class seats where these four
1:12:08
Speaker 9: guys were sitting in the plane next door in the
1:12:12
Speaker 9: seat back pouches, they find four box cutters.
1:12:15
Speaker 2: Oh no.
1:12:16
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:12:18
Speaker 1: Jeffrey, I never heard that story before. Is, has this
1:12:22
Speaker 1: been reported elsewhere other than your, your, your book, Ash
1:12:25
Speaker 1: and honor the untold 360 minutes of nine 11.
1:12:28
Speaker 3: Very, very rarely.
1:12:29
Speaker 9: I know one of the things I wrote a number
1:12:31
Speaker 9: of books on financial crime. So I had some contacts
1:12:34
Speaker 9: at the FBI, guys I've known for years. And also
1:12:39
Speaker 9: I had contacts at the NYPD. So I made a
1:12:44
Speaker 9: couple of calls and I said, tell me about these
1:12:47
Speaker 9: four guys in that United flight.
1:12:49
Speaker 4: Don't know anything.
1:12:50
Speaker 13: Goodbye.
1:12:50
Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa, whoa.
1:12:51
Speaker 14: Hold on, pal.
1:12:52
Speaker 4: It's me. Come on. We've always talked. You've always been
1:12:55
Speaker 4: very helpful. You've helped me get information.
1:12:57
Speaker 7: No, don't know anything.
1:12:58
Speaker 4: Goodbye. Goodbye.
1:12:58
Speaker 3: No, what are you doing? Goodbye.
1:13:00
Speaker 4: Goodbye.
1:13:01
Speaker 9: That was the reaction from both the FBI and the NYPD.
1:13:05
Speaker 9: They knew something and they weren't going to discuss it.
1:13:07
Speaker 9: The 9-11 report did not report this. And who knows
1:13:12
Speaker 9: where those four guys are?
1:13:13
Speaker 1: Well, you anticipated my question. I was just going to.
1:13:16
Speaker 9: Ask you that. I honestly believe, Brian, that that was
1:13:19
Speaker 9: the fourth plane because of the box cutters.
1:13:20
Speaker 1: Well, it sure sounds like it. Well, frightening revelation.
1:13:23
Speaker 4: And the break-in was to find the box cutters before
1:13:26
Speaker 4: the cleaners did.
1:13:27
Speaker 3: Wow. Okay.
1:13:28
Speaker 1: Okay. And moving over to yet another pilot, I understand
1:13:32
Speaker 1: that you spoke with a pilot on Air Force One.
1:13:35
Speaker 1: Is that correct?
1:13:36
Speaker 4: Oh, great guy, Mark Tillman.
1:13:38
Speaker 9: Yeah, I interviewed him for four hours, and we spoke
1:13:43
Speaker 9: extensively about what happened that morning. Now, George Bush was
1:13:47
Speaker 9: in Sarasota doing a photo op with some six-year-olds and
1:13:51
Speaker 9: first and second graders at a school, reading a story
1:13:54
Speaker 9: to them. And on the way to the school, he
1:13:57
Speaker 9: was informed about American 11 hitting the North Tower. While
1:14:02
Speaker 9: he was reading to the kids, Andy Card, his chief
1:14:05
Speaker 9: of staff, whispered in his ear that famous photograph that
1:14:08
Speaker 9: a second plane had hit the South Tower and that
1:14:12
Speaker 9: we were ostensibly at war. Now, the spin came out
1:14:17
Speaker 9: that the president contemplated the situation and was thinking of
1:14:20
Speaker 9: his options and didn't want to alarm the kids.
1:14:23
Speaker 5: No, no, no.
1:14:23
Speaker 4: He was a deer caught in the headlights.
1:14:25
Speaker 3: And you know what?
1:14:26
Speaker 9: This is not to demean George Bush. Everybody would have been.
1:14:29
Speaker 9: He had to digest this horrible news that.
1:14:33
Speaker 4: The country was at war.
1:14:35
Speaker 9: Now, two Secret Service agents, again, guys who never speak
1:14:38
Speaker 9: to anybody, they spoke to me. the supervisors, Eddie Marenzo
1:14:42
Speaker 9: and Dave Wilkinson, immediately said, we got to get the
1:14:45
Speaker 9: president out of here. Because this photo op had been publicized.
1:14:51
Speaker 9: If there are hijackers in planes nearby, they know where
1:14:55
Speaker 9: the president is.
1:14:56
Speaker 4: His location is known. So we got to get him
1:14:58
Speaker 4: out of here.
1:14:59
Speaker 9: They set up a special motorcade with special outriders blocking
1:15:03
Speaker 9: the streets to the airport with cars, as opposed to
1:15:07
Speaker 9: a cop holding up his hand to stop traffic. They
1:15:10
Speaker 9: called Tillman, and Tillman said, I fired up my starboard
1:15:13
Speaker 9: engines right side for us civilians, which they never do.
1:15:17
Speaker 9: You always wait till the president's on board before you
1:15:19
Speaker 9: turn on the engines. They waited for him. He came
1:15:23
Speaker 9: up the steps. As soon as the door closed, he
1:15:25
Speaker 9: fired up the port engines, the left side, and taxied
1:15:28
Speaker 9: to the runway. Now, there's a report that comes into
1:15:31
Speaker 9: the Secret Service that at the bottom of the runway,
1:15:33
Speaker 9: there's a sniper with a long rifle. Well, they dispatch
1:15:38
Speaker 9: cars immediately. And Tillman says, I'm not going that way.
1:15:41
Speaker 9: Instead of taking off into the wind, which is how
1:15:44
Speaker 9: you get lift, he decides he's taking off with the wind.
1:15:47
Speaker 9: That's tricky, especially in a big plane like a 7-4. Now,
1:15:51
Speaker 9: that 7-4, the Air Force One, was lighter than a
1:15:54
Speaker 9: normal 7-4.
1:15:55
Speaker 4: It had bigger engines. It could do different things.
1:15:57
Speaker 9: Still, you need some real skill to take off with
1:16:00
Speaker 9: the wind in a plane that big. He gets up
1:16:03
Speaker 9: in the air and immediately goes into defensive measures out
1:16:06
Speaker 9: over the Gulf. Because he's told there's another plane heading
1:16:09
Speaker 9: towards him.
1:16:10
Speaker 4: Oh, geez.
1:16:10
Speaker 9: Well, you know, yeah, if a second plane crashes into
1:16:14
Speaker 9: Air Force One, they kill the president.
1:16:15
Speaker 4: Game over.
1:16:16
Speaker 9: So he goes into defensive measures and decides he's going
1:16:20
Speaker 9: to climb up into the clouds to hide. He's got
1:16:23
Speaker 9: no fighter escorts, which the president's always supposed to have.
1:16:27
Speaker 4: He doesn't have any that morning.
1:16:28
Speaker 9: And that's when he said to me, I told myself
1:16:30
Speaker 9: it was time to be Tom Cruise and fly this
1:16:34
Speaker 9: plane the way it's never been flown before.
1:16:37
Speaker 1: And all these decisions made on the fly with no,
1:16:41
Speaker 1: there's no.
1:16:41
Speaker 4: Game plan, right? Well, that's the thing. That's the thing.
1:16:44
Speaker 9: The 60 some odd people I spoke to, mainly military
1:16:47
Speaker 9: and national security people, many of whom had never spoken before,
1:16:52
Speaker 9: had risen through the ranks of the military or the
1:16:54
Speaker 9: government and put into a position of command and control authority.
1:16:58
Speaker 4: After 30 and 35 years in the game.
1:17:03
Speaker 9: Put in that position to defend the country against the
1:17:06
Speaker 9: worst possible scenario. But that morning, the worst scenario was
1:17:12
Speaker 9: worse than any worse scenario they'd ever planned for. And
1:17:15
Speaker 9: it was all ad lib, and it was all experience
1:17:18
Speaker 9: and intelligence that saved the country from further damage.
1:17:21
Speaker 1: That is truly amazing. The question burned in the back
1:17:25
Speaker 1: of my mind after hearing that for the very first
1:17:26
Speaker 1: time in my life, that sniper at the end of
1:17:28
Speaker 1: the runway, was that an accurate report?
1:17:31
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
1:17:32
Speaker 9: I should give you the end of the story. The
1:17:35
Speaker 9: Secret Service descends on this guy with guns drawn.
1:17:37
Speaker 4: Get down, get down, get down. He's a photographer with
1:17:39
Speaker 4: a long mouth.
1:17:40
Speaker 6: Oh, my.
1:17:42
Speaker 1: Better safe than sorry. We all know what happens like
1:17:45
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk when you don't pay attention to things like that.
1:17:47
Speaker 9: Well, what the problem became later on A call comes
1:17:52
Speaker 9: into the Situation Room in the White House.
1:17:55
Speaker 4: Now, the president's in the air. They're looking for a
1:17:57
Speaker 4: place to go.
1:17:59
Speaker 9: And the Secret Service agent who takes the call, which
1:18:04
Speaker 9: is a threat to Air Force One, he phones down
1:18:08
Speaker 9: to the PEOC, the Presidential Emergency Operations Center, where the
1:18:12
Speaker 9: vice president is with the National Security Advisor, Condi Rice.
1:18:16
Speaker 9: And two people I spoke to sitting at the table
1:18:19
Speaker 9: across from them, an Air Force, senior Air Force officer
1:18:22
Speaker 9: and a Marine officer. And the Secret Service guy says,
1:18:27
Speaker 9: I just got a phone call.
1:18:29
Speaker 4: Angel is next.
1:18:32
Speaker 9: Now, that scared the you know what out of everybody,
1:18:35
Speaker 9: because Angel was the code word for Air Force One.
1:18:39
Speaker 9: And nobody was supposed to know that. And if a
1:18:41
Speaker 9: call came in that said Angel is next, it meant
1:18:44
Speaker 9: somebody might be on the plane. Well, they relayed that
1:18:48
Speaker 9: immediately to this, Secret Service supervisors, Eddie Maranzo and Dave Wilkinson,
1:18:53
Speaker 9: who locked down Air Force One in mid-flight. They told everybody,
1:18:57
Speaker 9: stay in your seats. Let us have your cell phones.
1:18:59
Speaker 9: They took the cell phones, took the batteries.
1:19:01
Speaker 3: Out of the cell phones.
1:19:02
Speaker 9: They did a person-to-person investigation said you cannot leave your seat,
1:19:08
Speaker 9: you cannot go to the forward cabin, you can't walk around,
1:19:11
Speaker 9: and posted Secret Service agents with guns at every cabin
1:19:16
Speaker 9: so everybody stayed put. They put a rather large guy
1:19:22
Speaker 9: with a gun in front of the steps up to
1:19:24
Speaker 9: the cockpit and really went into protection mode, high class
1:19:31
Speaker 9: protection mode, because somebody knew Angel was next.
1:19:34
Speaker 4: It turns out, we think, that the call came in.
1:19:37
Speaker 9: About a threat, yes, a threat to Air Force One,
1:19:40
Speaker 9: and it was the Secret Service agent who knew the
1:19:43
Speaker 9: code word and was just repeating what he would normally
1:19:47
Speaker 9: say to another Secret Service agent, that Angel is next.
1:19:50
Speaker 9: That the call didn't say Angel, it was the Secret Service.
1:19:52
Speaker 3: Agent who did.
1:19:53
Speaker 4: In any case, nothing came of it. Yeah, nothing came
1:19:57
Speaker 4: of it except panic and a lot of tension.
1:20:00
Speaker 1: Well, and obviously a tremendous learning exercise for everybody in
1:20:03
Speaker 1: the aftermath of all that. I'm sure training and protocols
1:20:05
Speaker 1: changed dramatically. The name of the book, Ash and Honor,
1:20:09
Speaker 1: the untold 368 minutes of 9-11. Jeffrey Robinson, the author
1:20:12
Speaker 1: with me today, and us today, I should more properly state, Jeffrey,
1:20:16
Speaker 1: I could talk to you for hours, but we've got
1:20:17
Speaker 1: a book to read. You have sold a bunch of
1:20:19
Speaker 1: copies already, I feel confident, man, because you just scratched
1:20:22
Speaker 1: the surface of what's in this book and revealing it
1:20:26
Speaker 1: really is Jeffrey, thanks for putting it on paper, my friend,
1:20:29
Speaker 1: and I know my listeners are really going to enjoy
1:20:31
Speaker 1: reading it, and I recommend the game.
1:20:32
Speaker 4: Brian, thank you so much. I really appreciate you.
1:20:35
Speaker 1: My pleasure. Truly an enjoyable conversation. Get it at 55KRC. iHeart. com.
1:20:40
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1:20:50
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1:20:52
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1:20:52
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1:20:52
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1:20:56
Speaker 1: Without further ado, juvenile has been charged yesterday after a
1:20:59
Speaker 1: 16-year-old boy died from injuries sustained after falling off the
1:21:02
Speaker 1: top of a moving vehicle up in Trenton, Ohio. Happened
1:21:05
Speaker 1: in August. Teen driving when the incident happened, charged with
1:21:10
Speaker 1: aggravated vehicular homicide, vehicular assault, and operation in Wilford were
1:21:14
Speaker 1: wanton disregard of safety to persons. Police got reports that
1:21:17
Speaker 1: a juvenile fell from the top of that vehicle intersection
1:21:20
Speaker 1: at Dartmouth Street in Brampton about 10.30 p.m. August 14th.
1:21:24
Speaker 1: Injured teen. 16-year-old Mason Young flown to Miami Valley Hospital
1:21:28
Speaker 1: in Dayton where he was pronounced dead. Police investigation found
1:21:32
Speaker 1: the two juveniles had been riding on the trunk of
1:21:34
Speaker 1: the vehicle. Both had fallen off. The other teen sustained
1:21:37
Speaker 1: serious injuries. Investigation revealed third juvenile driving the car while
1:21:41
Speaker 1: the other two were riding in the trunk. Driver, accompanied
1:21:46
Speaker 1: by his parents and attorney, turned himself in to Trenton
1:21:48
Speaker 1: Police and then formally charged, released to his parents, scheduled
1:21:51
Speaker 1: to appear in Butler County Juvenile Court. Boy, that's a
1:21:55
Speaker 1: weight one's going to have to live with for their
1:21:57
Speaker 1: entire life. Multiple people taken to the hospital following a
1:22:00
Speaker 1: multi-vehicle crash happened in Hamilton yesterday evening. Butler County Dispatch
1:22:04
Speaker 1: said at 1700 Block of Fairgrove Avenue about 7.30 p.m.
1:22:09
Speaker 1: near the Butler County Fairgrounds. Several people taken to the hospital.
1:22:12
Speaker 1: According to dispatcher information, police said at least one vehicle
1:22:14
Speaker 1: rolled over. No information released about the extent of the injuries.
1:22:18
Speaker 1: Road was shut down. Maybe it still is. I don't know.
1:22:20
Speaker 1: This is at the time of the reporting. It was
1:22:22
Speaker 1: still shut down. And thanks to Fox 19. Matt Schaefer.
1:22:24
Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Matt. 34-year-old man been charged with killing his
1:22:29
Speaker 1: three-week-old daughter. Happened in Kennedy Heights, corner of the Cincinnati Police.
1:22:33
Speaker 1: Officers showed up at the 6,000 block of Red Bank
1:22:36
Speaker 1: Road Saturday, past Saturday. Child identifies as a 24-day-old. Naomi
1:22:45
Speaker 1: Evans transported to Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center. Police didn't
1:22:48
Speaker 1: specify what type of injuries Naomi sustained, but she did
1:22:51
Speaker 1: die as a consequence of them on Sunday. Yesterday, Cincinnati
1:22:56
Speaker 1: Police Homicide Unit arrested Christopher Evans, the child's father, in
1:23:01
Speaker 1: connection with her death. He's been charged with murder, felonious assault,
1:23:04
Speaker 1: and child endangerment. currently held in Hamilton County Justice Center.
1:23:07
Speaker 1: Police said the homicide unit investigation is still ongoing. If
1:23:10
Speaker 1: you have any information about Naomi Evans' death, please call
1:23:13
Speaker 1: the Homicide Unit at 513-352-3542. Apparently, back in 2017, Evans
1:23:21
Speaker 1: was previously convicted by a jury for felonious assault and
1:23:23
Speaker 1: child endangerment for injury suffered by his three-week-old son. That
1:23:29
Speaker 1: case stemmed from an October 2015 incident when Evans, then
1:23:33
Speaker 1: 25 years old, was home alone with the infant. Police
1:23:37
Speaker 1: said at the time that the baby began crying, Evans
1:23:40
Speaker 1: forcefully bounced him in an attempt to get him to stop,
1:23:45
Speaker 1: then threw the child onto a changing table, causing the
1:23:48
Speaker 1: infant to hit its head. The baby suffered facial swelling,
1:23:51
Speaker 1: bruising before becoming limp and unresponsive. Police said the infant
1:23:55
Speaker 1: suffered bleeding around the brain, brain contusions, damage to blood
1:23:59
Speaker 1: vessels in the brain, retinal hemorrhage, and multiple fractures to
1:24:02
Speaker 1: his leg. Joe, I think we have an award to
1:24:05
Speaker 1: give out. Warren County judge sentenced him to three years
1:24:07
Speaker 1: in prison, gave him credit for 83 days already served.
1:24:10
Speaker 1: Court also imposed mandatory period of post-release control up to
1:24:13
Speaker 1: three years. Fast forward to now, 24-year-old Naomi Evans. 736
1:24:24
Speaker 1: right now. F55KRC, the talk station. Suzette Lowskamp's waiting for
1:24:29
Speaker 1: your call. Mortgages is what the talk station. 7.41, 55
1:24:34
Speaker 1: KRC Talk Station, Friday. Hope you have good plans for
1:24:37
Speaker 1: the weekend. Of course, Monday on The Morning Show, Christopher
1:24:40
Speaker 1: Smitherman and Money Monday with Brian James. Jack Windsor coming
1:24:43
Speaker 1: up at 8.30. We got new Amy Acton video. No,
1:24:46
Speaker 1: she wasn't attacked.
1:24:47
Speaker 3: Really?
1:24:49
Speaker 1: Plus, you have an opportunity. We're going to talk about
1:24:50
Speaker 1: with Jack Windsor the Washington Examiner article about Amy Acton's staff.
1:24:56
Speaker 1: They talk with five people who work directly with her,
1:24:58
Speaker 1: and apparently she is a delicate flower. balled up in
1:25:05
Speaker 1: a fetal position kind of stuff because she can't handle
1:25:08
Speaker 1: the job, at least that temporary job she had as
1:25:10
Speaker 1: medical director here in Ohio, one that she quit after
1:25:13
Speaker 1: a very short period of time, I guess because she
1:25:14
Speaker 1: couldn't handle the pressure. Governor acting, really? That's coming up
1:25:19
Speaker 1: with Jack Windsor, among other topics with him. In the meantime,
1:25:22
Speaker 1: let's go to the phones. Patriot, Mr. Jeff, welcome to
1:25:24
Speaker 1: the show, man. It's always great hearing from you.
1:25:28
Speaker 3: Good morning, Brian.
1:25:30
Speaker 15: As always, you and George are true patriots, buddy.
1:25:33
Speaker 1: And we always put you, Joe always puts you up
1:25:34
Speaker 1: on the call screen as Patriot Jeff. So I appreciate that, Jeff.
1:25:38
Speaker 1: I really do, man.
1:25:39
Speaker 3: Thank you.
1:25:39
Speaker 15: I just wanted to share, since you and I were around, obviously,
1:25:49
Speaker 15: when those calls came in to us from our relatives
1:25:52
Speaker 15: and stuff, and we just couldn't believe it at one moment,
1:25:56
Speaker 15: I'm sure the first several moments. And I still remember
1:26:01
Speaker 15: walking outside the juvenile courts building like several of us did. And,
1:26:06
Speaker 15: and it was the most twilight zone ish feel because
1:26:12
Speaker 15: you looked around and everybody, man, woman, we're just looking
1:26:18
Speaker 15: up at the sky and, and we were walking up
1:26:23
Speaker 15: to each other and asking each other, how are you?
1:26:26
Speaker 15: And total strangers and, It was just a surreal, just
1:26:31
Speaker 15: a moment that obviously is etched into all of us that.
1:26:35
Speaker 5: Were around and old enough.
1:26:39
Speaker 15: And I don't need to be, I mean, it was
1:26:46
Speaker 15: wonderful that all of us here in America and all
1:26:49
Speaker 15: of us Americans stepped together a little closer that day.
1:26:54
Speaker 15: But I just have to warn people that, you know,
1:26:59
Speaker 15: you just still have to face evil and face the
1:27:06
Speaker 15: bad things that can happen to our country, especially put
1:27:10
Speaker 15: that a little bit over your personal lives a little bit.
1:27:20
Speaker 15: And it's even tough to talk about it now. But
1:27:26
Speaker 15: it's just important to remember that Obviously, I'm not going
1:27:31
Speaker 15: to say anything that was FCC-uncompliant, but instead of thinking
1:27:36
Speaker 15: that I'm so worried about someone calling me a racist,
1:27:40
Speaker 15: just think of it as you just don't like jerks.
1:27:46
Speaker 15: I mean, that's how I tell people that all the time,
1:27:50
Speaker 15: is I don't ever treat anybody differently, no matter what
1:27:54
Speaker 15: skin color they are.
1:27:56
Speaker 3: But if they're jerks, I.
1:27:57
Speaker 7: Don't want them around me.
1:27:58
Speaker 15: I don't want them in my neighborhood. I don't want
1:28:00
Speaker 15: them in my country. And, uh, but that, that has
1:28:03
Speaker 15: nothing to do with racism. It just has to be,
1:28:06
Speaker 15: it just has, you just have to convince yourself, Hey,
1:28:09
Speaker 15: they're jerks. It has nothing to do with racism, but.
1:28:13
Speaker 3: No, you just, you can't, you just can't, you know,
1:28:20
Speaker 3: I don't know what the right word is. Um, You
1:28:24
Speaker 3: just can't, you know, forgive it away.
1:28:26
Speaker 1: I mean, if a.
1:28:27
Speaker 15: Person has a fundamental difference to our freedoms, every one
1:28:35
Speaker 15: of them, it doesn't matter what one you want to
1:28:37
Speaker 15: look at, but I mean, there are certain cultures that
1:28:41
Speaker 15: just don't add up with civilized societies. And you and
1:28:45
Speaker 15: I both know how important it is to protect what
1:28:50
Speaker 15: our families enjoy and what our kids are going to get.
1:28:55
Speaker 3: And you just can't turn.
1:29:00
Speaker 15: And ignore it. You have to be ready to step
1:29:06
Speaker 15: up for yourself and for your family and for your neighbors.
1:29:11
Speaker 15: And people just have to remember it. It can be
1:29:14
Speaker 15: taken away from us so fast if we're not diligent.
1:29:19
Speaker 1: And, you know, Jeff, isn't it an interesting reality? And
1:29:22
Speaker 1: it's a sad one we have to observe, though, that
1:29:24
Speaker 1: everyone in times of tragedy, like hurricanes and severe weather and,
1:29:28
Speaker 1: of course, terrorist attacks like that, People will put these
1:29:32
Speaker 1: petty differences down as if they never existed. They'll join hands.
1:29:35
Speaker 1: I mean, you heard the author earlier talking about being
1:29:37
Speaker 1: in New York and downtown New York where people are
1:29:39
Speaker 1: just kind of generally rude. You know, people, just strangers
1:29:42
Speaker 1: reaching out and saying, are you doing okay? How are
1:29:44
Speaker 1: you coping? Like, what world did I wake up in?
1:29:47
Speaker 1: A better world, apparently, in the aftermath of that. How
1:29:49
Speaker 1: come it is that very shortly after, when we're all
1:29:52
Speaker 1: expressing this, you know, embrace and this collective, we are one,
1:29:56
Speaker 1: we're going to fight back, we're going to help each other,
1:29:58
Speaker 1: that that feeling just disappears? It just went away. And
1:30:03
Speaker 1: sometimes just very shortly thereafter, we turn back into jerks,
1:30:06
Speaker 1: or at least some of us do. Jeff, outstanding, man.
1:30:09
Speaker 1: I appreciate you calling, and I certainly can hear the
1:30:11
Speaker 1: emotion in your voice. It's an emotional day. 746 right now.
1:30:14
Speaker 1: I've got other callers. Oh, look, Maureen is on the line.
1:30:17
Speaker 4: Maureen, one moment.
1:30:18
Speaker 1: I want to mention Rhino Sealed, because if you've got
1:30:19
Speaker 1: to paint something like a house.
1:30:20
Speaker 2: 751 coming up at 752.
1:30:25
Speaker 1: Before I get to Maureen, it's time to catch ourselves
1:30:28
Speaker 1: at Crime Stopper Bad Guy of the Week. You can
1:30:30
Speaker 1: find this guy's mugshot on my blog page, 55KRC. iheart. com. Welcome back.
1:30:33
Speaker 1: Tiffany Green, Officer Green from the Cincinnati Police Department Crime
1:30:36
Speaker 1: Stopper Unit. God bless the Cincinnati Police Department. Tiffany, who
1:30:39
Speaker 1: are we looking for today?
1:30:41
Speaker 6: Good morning, Brian. The Cincinnati Police District 4 Investigative Unit
1:30:45
Speaker 6: is looking for Mohamed Elan.
1:30:48
Speaker 5: Mr.
1:30:48
Speaker 6: Elan is wanted for felonious assault. Investigators say Mr. Elan,
1:30:53
Speaker 6: during a physical altercation, struck the victim with a wooden bat,
1:30:56
Speaker 6: causing serious physical harm to the victim. Mohamed Elan is
1:31:00
Speaker 6: a white male. He's 37 years old. He's 6'1 and
1:31:04
Speaker 6: 195 pounds. Mohamed Elan has no known arrest history and
1:31:09
Speaker 6: was last known to live on Sand Hope Avenue in Westwood.
1:31:12
Speaker 6: If anyone has information on where police can find Mohamed Elan,
1:31:17
Speaker 6: please call Crime Stoppers at 513 352-3040, or submit a
1:31:22
Speaker 6: tip online at CrimeDeskDoppers.us.
1:31:25
Speaker 1: We made it easy for the listeners to get an
1:31:26
Speaker 1: eyeball of this guy. His picture's on my blog page, 55KRC. iHeart. com. Remember,
1:31:30
Speaker 1: you will be eligible for a cash reward if your
1:31:31
Speaker 1: tip leads to an arrest. You'll be doing society a
1:31:33
Speaker 1: huge favor. He's obviously, no pun intended, but yeah, it
1:31:36
Speaker 1: is a batterer. Wouldn't bat. Anyway, we'll be looking for him,
1:31:40
Speaker 1: and thanks for your service to our community, Officer Green. Welcome, Maureen.
1:31:43
Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure hearing from you. Happy Friday.
1:31:46
Speaker 13: Good morning, Brian. I have a story for 9-11. I remember,
1:31:51
Speaker 13: like it was yesterday, just walking into Sam's Club. So,
1:31:56
Speaker 13: you know, as you walk in there, there's like 10
1:31:57
Speaker 13: TVs going and they're all on the same screen. So,
1:32:00
Speaker 13: I would have my children with me and we see
1:32:02
Speaker 13: all these buildings, you know, all the Twin Towers on
1:32:06
Speaker 13: fire and everything happening, people jumping from the buildings. And
1:32:09
Speaker 13: My children were just shocked. You know, all these people
1:32:12
Speaker 13: standing around not knowing what's going on. So anyway, fast
1:32:16
Speaker 13: forward a couple days later, I hear about an interfaith
1:32:20
Speaker 13: prayer service that's going to happen on Fountain Square that
1:32:22
Speaker 13: following Friday, the 14th of September. And so I thought, well,
1:32:27
Speaker 13: that would be a good opportunity to maybe raise some
1:32:29
Speaker 13: funds for the Red Cross. So the night before, I'm
1:32:32
Speaker 13: making my sign to, you know, put with my little
1:32:34
Speaker 13: donation canister, and my daughter sees me doing that, and
1:32:38
Speaker 13: she's like, What's that for? And I explained that I
1:32:40
Speaker 13: was going to go to this event the next day.
1:32:43
Speaker 13: And she said, can I go? Because she doesn't like
1:32:45
Speaker 13: when I do things with her little sister because she's
1:32:48
Speaker 13: got to be in school and everything. So I said,
1:32:51
Speaker 13: you can't go. You have to be in school. And
1:32:53
Speaker 13: so she said, well, how about if I play my violin?
1:32:58
Speaker 13: So I said, okay, that would be okay. I was
1:33:01
Speaker 13: happy that she wanted to help in some way. So
1:33:05
Speaker 13: we go down there. She had a little violin or
1:33:08
Speaker 13: music stand, and we go there, and the amount of
1:33:11
Speaker 13: people there was unbelievable. It turned out to be an
1:33:13
Speaker 13: historic event for Fountain Square. There were thousands of people there.
1:33:17
Speaker 13: Every interfaith, whether it was a priest or an archbishop,
1:33:22
Speaker 13: I think Archipelagic was there leading it, and all the
1:33:25
Speaker 13: different faiths were there giving their talk. And I just
1:33:28
Speaker 13: sat there kind of with my– she did not want
1:33:30
Speaker 13: to play. She was terrified. There were so many people there.
1:33:32
Speaker 13: She didn't expect that.
1:33:33
Speaker 3: She was only nine years old.
1:33:34
Speaker 1: Oh, I can only imagine.
1:33:35
Speaker 13: Yeah.
1:33:36
Speaker 4: Yeah.
1:33:36
Speaker 13: So nobody– people were just passing me by. There were
1:33:39
Speaker 13: so many people. Nobody was donating. And I said, let's go,
1:33:42
Speaker 13: because my little four-year-old was running off into the crowd,
1:33:44
Speaker 13: and it was a little bit too much for me
1:33:46
Speaker 13: to handle at that point. And so then she saw
1:33:49
Speaker 13: I was packing up to leave, and she got out
1:33:51
Speaker 13: her violin, and she started playing. Well, people lined up.
1:33:55
Speaker 3: Oh, wow. everywhere.
1:33:57
Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
1:33:58
Speaker 13: This is pretty emotional because I'm reliving it. But the
1:34:02
Speaker 13: community was unbelievable. They were lined up around the fountain
1:34:07
Speaker 13: to donate. And the Cincinnati Enquirer came and they wanted
1:34:11
Speaker 13: to interview her. And so they asked her how much
1:34:14
Speaker 13: she planned to raise. And she didn't know what to say.
1:34:17
Speaker 13: She just said, I want to raise $ 5, 000 by Christmas.
1:34:20
Speaker 13: And I thought, where did that come from? It was
1:34:24
Speaker 13: kind of interesting to see how she wanted to do that.
1:34:27
Speaker 13: So they said, well, we're going to follow up with
1:34:29
Speaker 13: you and we're going to touch base with you tomorrow.
1:34:31
Speaker 13: And they asked for my number. They wanted to know
1:34:33
Speaker 13: how much she raised that day. So they called me
1:34:37
Speaker 13: and she raised $ 2, 000 that day.
1:34:39
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:34:40
Speaker 13: And so then they said, well, keep us informed of
1:34:43
Speaker 13: when you get to that $ 5, 000 goal. So anyway, she
1:34:47
Speaker 13: went on to play outside the Uranoff Center when Phantom
1:34:50
Speaker 13: of the Opera was there at different events where there
1:34:52
Speaker 13: were going to be people And the Cincinnati Reds and
1:34:55
Speaker 13: the Cincinnati Orchestra invited her to come and play and
1:34:58
Speaker 13: raise funds for them. Well, my point is that it's
1:35:01
Speaker 13: not about her. It's about the community and how much
1:35:05
Speaker 13: people came together in that time. And I wish that
1:35:09
Speaker 13: were the case more often. You know, it's sad that
1:35:12
Speaker 13: it takes something like that to bring that on. But
1:35:16
Speaker 13: also to instill a spirit of service in your children.
1:35:20
Speaker 13: They're never too.
1:35:21
Speaker 1: Young for that.
1:35:21
Speaker 3: No.
1:35:22
Speaker 1: No, what a beautiful story. And, you know, so many
1:35:25
Speaker 1: beautiful stories coming out of tragedy, Maureen, and I think
1:35:27
Speaker 1: it's a great thing to focus on those beautiful stories
1:35:29
Speaker 1: as well as the obvious tragedy that befell us that day.
1:35:32
Speaker 1: A whole lot of things to learn from that, and
1:35:35
Speaker 1: I'll just say out loud again, what happens to that,
1:35:38
Speaker 1: you know, embracing your fellow man's spirit, you know, a
1:35:41
Speaker 1: couple days after that tragedy that spurred you on to
1:35:44
Speaker 1: be such a decent person? Why can't we strive for
1:35:47
Speaker 1: that decency every single day? Why don't you hold your
1:35:50
Speaker 1: powder and keep it dry before you make that ridiculous, snide,
1:35:54
Speaker 1: unnecessary comment online. Let's try to rise above.
1:35:59
Speaker 10: The plane was aiming towards the building.
1:36:02
Speaker 4: I could still see that perfect blue sky. I looked
1:36:05
Speaker 4: up and there was just this explosion. We will never forget.
1:36:09
Speaker 1: On 55KRC, the talk station. 806 here at 55KRC, the
1:36:11
Speaker 1: talk station. 25th anniversary of 9-11. It's easy to remember
1:36:23
Speaker 1: where you were on that moment in time. I know
1:36:24
Speaker 1: it certainly impacted my life. We've been talking with folks
1:36:26
Speaker 1: all morning about that. Is that who I think it is, Joe? Oh,
1:36:33
Speaker 1: it's the other one. Hold on a second. Paulette is
1:36:37
Speaker 1: on the line. No, it's not my Paulette. My wife, Hermie,
1:36:39
Speaker 1: mentioned the woman that's on the phone who was coming
1:36:41
Speaker 1: to list her lunch. So who's this other Paulette you've
1:36:44
Speaker 1: been hanging out with? Now, real quick here before I
1:36:46
Speaker 1: get Paulette's phone call, and you can feel free to
1:36:47
Speaker 1: chime in, maybe thoughts or observations on the 25th anniversary. 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK,
1:36:51
Speaker 1: pound 550 on AT & T phones. I was thinking
1:36:55
Speaker 1: about Maureen's comment about her daughter and what a beautiful
1:36:57
Speaker 1: story that was. And I was just like, man, it's
1:37:00
Speaker 1: been 25 years. My kids were five and seven. My
1:37:05
Speaker 1: son was seven and my daughter was five. And I really,
1:37:09
Speaker 1: the only thing I remember about trying to explain it
1:37:11
Speaker 1: to them is that I was sort of at a
1:37:13
Speaker 1: loss for words about how to explain it to them.
1:37:18
Speaker 1: Does a five or a seven-year-old even know what a
1:37:20
Speaker 1: terrorist is? Can you articulate in boiled-down terms for a
1:37:24
Speaker 1: young person what motivated someone to murder innocent people or
1:37:30
Speaker 1: a group of people to murder a mass of innocent
1:37:34
Speaker 1: people that have no connection whatsoever? Why did that plane
1:37:37
Speaker 1: fly into the building? Try to explain that to a
1:37:39
Speaker 1: five or a seven-year-old.
1:37:40
Speaker 4: I don't know if.
1:37:41
Speaker 1: You struggle with that. I just was Maureen just jogged
1:37:44
Speaker 1: my memory along those lines, and it's just hard to
1:37:46
Speaker 1: believe that 25 years have gone by. I was 35
1:37:48
Speaker 1: years old at the time.
1:37:50
Speaker 3: Wow.
1:37:50
Speaker 1: Let's see what Paulette has to say. Paulette, you and
1:37:53
Speaker 1: Jeff were at lunch yesterday, and again, a belated happy
1:37:57
Speaker 1: birthday again to your husband. Paulette, it's good to hear
1:37:58
Speaker 1: from you this morning.
1:38:00
Speaker 11: Thank you, Brian. Good to hear from you, or just
1:38:04
Speaker 11: good to call in.
1:38:06
Speaker 3: Yes.
1:38:06
Speaker 11: So on 9-11 and also Jeff had a wonderful time
1:38:10
Speaker 11: at the lunch.
1:38:12
Speaker 16: We always do.
1:38:13
Speaker 11: And it was just it was a great experience.
1:38:16
Speaker 1: I'm glad you were there. It was a great day
1:38:18
Speaker 1: for me, too. And it's good seeing you two again.
1:38:21
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:38:22
Speaker 11: So at 9-11, I was a council member for the
1:38:27
Speaker 11: city of Loveland at the time.
1:38:29
Speaker 8: And.
1:38:30
Speaker 11: And one of my council colleagues was, it was his
1:38:35
Speaker 11: birthday on that day. And he and I were collaborators
1:38:42
Speaker 11: on many things. And he sat next to me on
1:38:44
Speaker 11: council and It was my first term, and I thought,
1:38:48
Speaker 11: you know, I'm just going to make it a surprise
1:38:50
Speaker 11: for him. So I go down to Kroger, and I get,
1:38:54
Speaker 11: you know, some balloons and a little cake, and I
1:38:58
Speaker 11: go down to City Hall. And I am tying the
1:39:03
Speaker 11: balloons to his chair, and I have a vague awareness
1:39:11
Speaker 11: that the TV is on in the council chambers. And
1:39:15
Speaker 11: I'm thinking, why is that? Or that's a little weird.
1:39:18
Speaker 11: But I had a big agenda that day. I had
1:39:20
Speaker 11: a lot of things to do. And so I was
1:39:22
Speaker 11: kind of busy and rushed. And so I'm sort of
1:39:26
Speaker 11: half listening to the TV. And then it hit me
1:39:31
Speaker 11: what was happening. And I thought, the next thought I
1:39:35
Speaker 11: had was, I'm in a government building. I better get
1:39:38
Speaker 11: the hell out of here. It's a joke.
1:39:42
Speaker 1: Loveland, Loveland City Hall. I was thinking of all the
1:39:45
Speaker 1: targets in the world that might be targeted for a
1:39:47
Speaker 1: terrorist attack. I think Loveland City Hall is like the
1:39:50
Speaker 1: last place in the world it would come into my mind, Paulette.
1:39:54
Speaker 11: Well, I know, but I was a young mother at
1:39:57
Speaker 11: the time.
1:40:00
Speaker 1: I understand where the thought came from, but here we
1:40:02
Speaker 1: are 25 years later and you reflect on it. Yeah,
1:40:05
Speaker 1: Loveland's probably a pretty safe place to be, generally speaking.
1:40:09
Speaker 1: Terrorists don't even know there is a Loveland, Ohio.
1:40:12
Speaker 3: Right, exactly.
1:40:14
Speaker 1: At least we can laugh a little bit.
1:40:16
Speaker 11: But, you know, the story is wilder than that, and
1:40:21
Speaker 11: really not my aspect of the story, but I do
1:40:25
Speaker 11: come from New York. I was born in Brooklyn, and
1:40:28
Speaker 11: my family is mostly still living on Long Island. And
1:40:32
Speaker 11: at the time, my nephew, who is just a few
1:40:36
Speaker 11: years younger than me, he was working at the... World
1:40:42
Speaker 11: Financial Center, which I don't remember exactly the proximity to
1:40:48
Speaker 11: the towers, but really, really close, let's just say that.
1:40:53
Speaker 11: And the day before, on September 10th, his father had
1:41:00
Speaker 11: passed away in February of that year, and his mother
1:41:03
Speaker 11: gave him his father's watch. And on September 10th, the
1:41:08
Speaker 11: watch stopped. He took it off. He left it on
1:41:14
Speaker 11: his desk. And he said, well, you know, I'll just
1:41:17
Speaker 11: take it down to the watch repair place in the,
1:41:21
Speaker 11: you know, floor level of the building. You know, it's
1:41:24
Speaker 11: a big, tall tower. And so he left the watch there. 9-11,
1:41:30
Speaker 11: he's going to work. He doesn't have his watch. And
1:41:34
Speaker 11: he's thinking, well, do I have time to get a
1:41:37
Speaker 11: bagel and a cup of coffee before I go into
1:41:39
Speaker 11: the office? And he decides yes. So thank God he
1:41:44
Speaker 11: decides yes, because he wasn't there. He wasn't on time.
1:41:51
Speaker 11: He was late, later than he would have been. So anyway,
1:41:58
Speaker 11: the planes hit. He knew what was happening. Chaos ensued.
1:42:04
Speaker 11: He literally ran home. He was a runner. He ran home.
1:42:10
Speaker 11: from that location out to Lindenhurst, Ohio, or Lindenhurst, New York,
1:42:17
Speaker 11: which is out on Long Island, which is, it took
1:42:20
Speaker 11: him all day, but he made it home.
1:42:22
Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
1:42:23
Speaker 11: But all day. So that, it was a Tuesday, if
1:42:28
Speaker 11: you remember, I'm sure you do. It was a Tuesday,
1:42:31
Speaker 11: and we had a council meeting that night. And I
1:42:39
Speaker 11: called the mayor.
1:42:40
Speaker 12: And I said, are.
1:42:43
Speaker 11: You going to cancel the council meeting? I have been
1:42:45
Speaker 11: trying like hell to reach my nephew all day on
1:42:49
Speaker 11: my wits end. I don't know what's happening.
1:42:51
Speaker 13: Right.
1:42:52
Speaker 11: And she's like, no, we have things to do. And
1:42:55
Speaker 11: I'm like, what? And I said, well, I will be
1:42:59
Speaker 11: late because I'm going to church first. And then I'll
1:43:04
Speaker 11: be at the council meeting.
1:43:05
Speaker 1: Priorities.
1:43:07
Speaker 3: Right. Oh.
1:43:09
Speaker 1: I'm actually shocked that they went forward with that. I mean,
1:43:14
Speaker 1: nobody went forward with anything. I was on my way
1:43:16
Speaker 1: to a legal meeting in Indianapolis, as I mentioned before,
1:43:19
Speaker 1: when I was litigation counsel for Anthem. Everybody was told
1:43:23
Speaker 1: to just go home, be with your family. Talk about
1:43:27
Speaker 1: more important things, too, like going to church. Let me guess, Paulette,
1:43:33
Speaker 1: the issues on the table for that Loveland Council meeting
1:43:36
Speaker 1: 25 years ago have yet to be resolved in Loveland.
1:43:40
Speaker 11: Well, it might have been the big debate over the
1:43:43
Speaker 11: four-sided clock.
1:43:44
Speaker 3: Maybe.
1:43:46
Speaker 1: Or the much-needed additional parking spaces in Loveland. Paulette, I
1:43:51
Speaker 1: truly appreciate the call and the opportunity to lighten things
1:43:54
Speaker 1: up a little bit on this tragic anniversary. And then
1:43:57
Speaker 1: thanks again for you and Jeff making a listener lunch.
1:43:59
Speaker 1: It was a delight to see you both, and I'll
1:44:01
Speaker 1: look forward to hopefully seeing you at Jim and Jack's
1:44:02
Speaker 1: on the River first Wednesday of next month for the
1:44:05
Speaker 1: last one before the election. So take care, Paulette. Thank
1:44:09
Speaker 1: you very much for calling this morning.
1:44:10
Speaker 3: 513-749-5500, 800-823-TALK.
1:44:10
Speaker 4: 550 on AT & T phone.
1:44:11
Speaker 1: Sorry to the Loveland Council members. for the cheap shot.
1:44:19
Speaker 1: Although there are people in there nodding in approval, I think.
1:44:22
Speaker 1: Coming up on 815 right now, more to talk about
1:44:25
Speaker 1: until we get to Jack Windsor coming with the goods. Initially,
1:44:29
Speaker 1: a new video showing Amy Acton was in fact not attacked.
1:44:32
Speaker 1: Washington Examiner blowing the lid off about Amy Acton's role
1:44:36
Speaker 1: as medical director and not high praise from people that
1:44:39
Speaker 1: work with her, plus his thoughts on 9-11. That'll take
1:44:41
Speaker 1: place beginning at 830. I'll be right back.
1:44:45
Speaker 2: 55KRC, the talk station. Talk Station.
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1:44:53
Speaker 1: The 55KRC. The Talk Station.
1:45:00
Speaker 2: I see trees of green. Red roses too.
1:45:07
Speaker 4: I see them bloom.
1:45:10
Speaker 3: For me and you.
1:45:12
Speaker 9: And I sing to my city.
1:45:19
Speaker 1: Yep, and on the anniversary of 9-11, those things still exist,
1:45:23
Speaker 1: and there are reasons to perceive this world as a
1:45:25
Speaker 1: wonderful world. It just depends on where your focus is
1:45:27
Speaker 1: and where your vision is, and thinking about all the
1:45:30
Speaker 1: joining of hands and the unity that was shown in
1:45:32
Speaker 1: the aftermath of 9-11 and just sort of speculating and
1:45:35
Speaker 1: wondering what in the hell happened to that seems to
1:45:38
Speaker 1: only last for just a little while. But, see, you
1:45:40
Speaker 1: can reflect back on what we were all doing for
1:45:43
Speaker 1: each other in the aftermath of that tragedy. And what
1:45:46
Speaker 1: a wonderful thing it was to see that unfold in
1:45:49
Speaker 1: the face of tragedy. Over to the phone to see
1:45:50
Speaker 1: what Earl's got. Earl, thanks for calling this morning, and
1:45:53
Speaker 1: welcome to the show, sir.
1:45:55
Speaker 5: Thank you very much, Brian.
1:45:57
Speaker 16: One of the things that really sticks out to me
1:46:01
Speaker 16: the most that day was I had a delivery up
1:46:06
Speaker 16: in Dayton, Ohio, right there by the Dayton airport, and
1:46:10
Speaker 16: how quiet.
1:46:12
Speaker 5: I mean, it was so quiet.
1:46:15
Speaker 16: I mean, out in the middle of nowhere, no planes
1:46:19
Speaker 16: and the silence.
1:46:20
Speaker 5: It really sticks to me.
1:46:23
Speaker 16: And then, like you say, how everybody came together afterwards.
1:46:30
Speaker 16: And I wish we could go back to that.
1:46:32
Speaker 3: Amen, Earl.
1:46:34
Speaker 4: Amen, Earl.
1:46:36
Speaker 16: That's about all I had to say. And congratulations on
1:46:40
Speaker 16: your cancer treatment. My wife went through it. And it's
1:46:44
Speaker 16: a battle, and I know you're a fighter.
1:46:48
Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate that, Earl. Cancer sucks. Again, hang your
1:46:51
Speaker 1: hat on that. We can still all collectively agree on that.
1:46:56
Speaker 1: Appreciate that. Oh, and in terms of thoughts and prayers,
1:47:00
Speaker 1: thank you to the listening audience. I have good news
1:47:02
Speaker 1: to report. We've been worried all morning about Dave Hatter,
1:47:04
Speaker 1: who alerted us before the 6.30 segment, which he wasn't
1:47:07
Speaker 1: able to do today because he was taking his wife
1:47:09
Speaker 1: to the hospital. We didn't have any information on it,
1:47:12
Speaker 1: only that Dave was not going to be able to
1:47:13
Speaker 1: make it. So I got an update from Dave just
1:47:16
Speaker 1: a little while ago. Still at ER, but it looks
1:47:19
Speaker 1: like everything will be okay. He apologized for not joining
1:47:22
Speaker 1: the program, but I reminded him. I said, the audience
1:47:25
Speaker 1: has been praying for you and your wife all morning.
1:47:26
Speaker 1: So salute to my listening audience, the best in radio.
1:47:31
Speaker 1: It looks like everything's going to be fine in Dave
1:47:32
Speaker 1: Hatter's world. So God bless each and every one of you.
1:47:34
Speaker 1: And the other thing that was going on, and I
1:47:36
Speaker 1: was talking to Joe Strecker about this the other day,
1:47:39
Speaker 1: Because he was working the board. My dad was on
1:47:40
Speaker 1: the morning show at the time when 9-11 happened. And
1:47:44
Speaker 1: Joe talked about his, you know, it was just nine
1:47:46
Speaker 1: balls in the air juggling around, taking calls and fielding everything.
1:47:51
Speaker 1: And he wasn't able to absorb anything about 9-11 until
1:47:54
Speaker 1: he got home and just basically collapsed. And I get that.
1:47:59
Speaker 1: But one of the topics that they were talking about
1:48:01
Speaker 1: in the morning, it was going to be, wasn't it
1:48:03
Speaker 1: the day that Timothy Thomas Roach, police officer Roach, Officer
1:48:08
Speaker 1: Roach was going to, it was the verdict day, but
1:48:12
Speaker 1: the verdict didn't come down. Judge, I think it was
1:48:14
Speaker 1: Judge Winkler handed down that decision on the 26th or 28th,
1:48:18
Speaker 1: but it was supposed to happen on, uh on 9-11
1:48:21
Speaker 1: so that's the verdict that ultimately resulted in the riots
1:48:24
Speaker 1: in downtown cincinnati in 2001 riots which gave us the
1:48:31
Speaker 1: collaborative agreement but also delivered under the city of cincinnati
1:48:37
Speaker 1: iris roley isn't that right joe.
1:48:40
Speaker 3: Yeah.
1:48:42
Speaker 1: Real quick here. I think I can get it in
1:48:44
Speaker 1: before we get to Jack Windsor. I'm going to try
1:48:45
Speaker 1: to summarize it a little bit anyway. 9-11. Lessons for
1:48:49
Speaker 1: next time. Wall Street Journal. America's in a sour mood
1:48:52
Speaker 1: these days, so it's not surprising on the anniversary of
1:48:54
Speaker 1: the terrorist attacks that September morning, 25 years ago, we're
1:48:57
Speaker 1: being told of the country's failures. where lecture that America overreacted,
1:49:02
Speaker 1: squandered blood and treasure, betrayed its principles, and set the
1:49:05
Speaker 1: country on a path of national decline. If you flew
1:49:07
Speaker 1: in this week after 25 years on Mars, you might
1:49:10
Speaker 1: think Osama bin Laden had won. Kind of took that
1:49:16
Speaker 1: to heart, and I wrote down the word Mamdami down
1:49:18
Speaker 1: at the bottom of that paragraph. Rather interesting, 25 years
1:49:22
Speaker 1: after the epicenter of the terrorist attacks by fundamentalists. that
1:49:28
Speaker 1: you elected a commie as mayor. Anyway, don't believe it.
1:49:32
Speaker 1: We were there that day, the Wall Street Journal. Across
1:49:34
Speaker 1: the street from the Twin Towers, we see a different legacy.
1:49:36
Speaker 1: America suffered a sneak attack, the worst since Pearl Harbor
1:49:38
Speaker 1: and more deadly. The country responded with self-sacrifice, patriotic unity,
1:49:45
Speaker 1: at least for a time, and enough righteous fury to
1:49:49
Speaker 1: avenge those 2,977 murders. Measured by the lack of similar
1:49:55
Speaker 1: attacks in 25 years, the global war on terror qualifies
1:49:59
Speaker 1: as a success. You might come to a different conclusion.
1:50:01
Speaker 1: This is the opinion of the Wall Street Journal. But
1:50:04
Speaker 1: isn't it truly amazing? As real sort of simplistic and
1:50:07
Speaker 1: easy as flying an airplane into a tower might seem.
1:50:13
Speaker 1: And all of the target-rich environment we live in, literally everywhere,
1:50:18
Speaker 1: walk around during the day and look at something that
1:50:20
Speaker 1: is critical to keeping life moving and going in one direction,
1:50:23
Speaker 1: like power stations, critical infrastructure. None of it's hardened. None
1:50:31
Speaker 1: of it's protected from attack. But while there have been
1:50:35
Speaker 1: isolated terror incidents across this country, certainly none as devastating,
1:50:39
Speaker 1: stating the obvious, as 9-11 25 years ago. So we
1:50:42
Speaker 1: have done a pretty damn good job of, well, keeping
1:50:45
Speaker 1: ourselves free from harm. And I don't know if the
1:50:49
Speaker 1: intrusions into our civil liberties actually helped prevent similar attacks.
1:50:55
Speaker 1: My civil libertarian mindset doesn't like, for example, Pfizer, the
1:50:59
Speaker 1: Patriot Act, which the Wall Street Journal says was a
1:51:01
Speaker 1: good thing. Their point on that, though critics claim otherwise,
1:51:05
Speaker 1: me being one of them, the U.S. has not compromised
1:51:08
Speaker 1: its liberties to gain more security. I think that's a
1:51:11
Speaker 1: rather bold statement. The surveillance method established at the time,
1:51:14
Speaker 1: such as the Patriot Act and warrantless wiretaps, haven't entrapped
1:51:18
Speaker 1: the innocent. The political system has modified what it concluded
1:51:22
Speaker 1: were excesses and the Bill of Rights limits the government.
1:51:25
Speaker 1: There's that word, haven't entrapped the innocent. But I thought
1:51:28
Speaker 1: to myself and circled the word innocent and I put
1:51:31
Speaker 1: yet innocent. That's the thing that happens you got to
1:51:36
Speaker 1: worry about when you sacrifice your freedoms and liberties in
1:51:39
Speaker 1: the name of safety. Yeah, they're not doing it yet.
1:51:43
Speaker 1: They haven't abused the system yet. But there are the
1:51:47
Speaker 1: systems in place, potentially, potentially, to be used for abusive
1:51:54
Speaker 1: purposes down the road. But all in all, I think
1:51:56
Speaker 1: the op-ed piece, if you want to dive on into
1:51:58
Speaker 1: it again, the 9-11 lessons for next time, the war
1:52:00
Speaker 1: on terror succeeded, but the U.S. homeland is more vulnerable
1:52:03
Speaker 1: now than it was 25 years ago. Some interesting thoughts
1:52:05
Speaker 1: and observations there, sort of get your juices flowing in
1:52:08
Speaker 1: your brain. Also doing that, Jack Windsor, TheOhioPressNetwork.com's Jack Windsor
1:52:12
Speaker 1: joins the program. We'll start right out of the gate
1:52:14
Speaker 1: with a new video showing Amy Acton was, in fact,
1:52:17
Speaker 1: not attacked. Don't go away. This is 55KRC and iHeartRadio.
1:52:21
Speaker 2: The Talk Station.
1:52:22
Speaker 1: 831 and 55KRC, The Talk Station.
1:52:25
Speaker 3: It's Friday.
1:52:26
Speaker 1: Happy Friday. And it's that time of the week we
1:52:28
Speaker 1: get the benefit of Jack Windsor from TheOhioPressNetwork.com. You're going
1:52:31
Speaker 1: to love what he posts up there. And he's also
1:52:34
Speaker 1: the host of the Windsor Report, 98.9 FM Columbus. If
1:52:37
Speaker 1: you can tune it in, I'm sure you can stream
1:52:39
Speaker 1: it online. Welcome back, Jack Windsor, my friend. It's always
1:52:41
Speaker 1: great having you on the program.
1:52:43
Speaker 10: Brian, always an honor and a pleasure to be here
1:52:45
Speaker 10: with you and Joe and all the listeners. Thanks for
1:52:48
Speaker 10: having me.
1:52:48
Speaker 1: You seem to be having, is it schadenfreude? You know,
1:52:52
Speaker 1: you're reporting on Amy Acton of late. Oh, my God,
1:52:54
Speaker 1: she got attacked. She was almost murdered, Jack Windsor. This
1:52:57
Speaker 1: is like Donald Trump assassination attempt time. And then, oh,
1:53:01
Speaker 1: maybe not. Did our team not think that video would
1:53:06
Speaker 1: be available at some point? Did they not think that
1:53:09
Speaker 1: the lie that this guy came at it with a
1:53:11
Speaker 1: firearm aimed at it or something wouldn't come out? What's
1:53:14
Speaker 1: going on, Jack Windsor?
1:53:16
Speaker 10: There are so many layers to this. Here's what we know, right?
1:53:20
Speaker 10: That's how all the news stations start. And then they
1:53:22
Speaker 10: usually lie to you after that.
1:53:23
Speaker 4: I won't do that.
1:53:24
Speaker 11: I know.
1:53:24
Speaker 10: Here's what we know. We know that Amy Acton was
1:53:27
Speaker 10: at the Canfield Fair, and we know that shortly after
1:53:31
Speaker 10: an incident occurred that many mainstream outlets, really through the
1:53:35
Speaker 10: Associated Press and some other larger scale news organizations, reported
1:53:40
Speaker 10: that an armed man attacked Amy Acton. And then they
1:53:44
Speaker 10: parroted Amy Acton's campaign and the press release that they
1:53:49
Speaker 10: put out that said things like political violence is not okay.
1:53:53
Speaker 10: The man was armed. The man lunged at Amy Acton.
1:53:57
Speaker 10: Amy Acton provided care. And so soon after, one of
1:54:01
Speaker 10: the guys that co-hosts my radio show with me admitted yesterday,
1:54:05
Speaker 10: he said, I got a notice on my phone. And
1:54:08
Speaker 10: he said, I read it and thought, oh my gosh,
1:54:11
Speaker 10: this is like Butler, Pennsylvania all over again, just involving
1:54:15
Speaker 10: Amy Acton. And he was being raw. And frankly, I
1:54:19
Speaker 10: think we were all there. And then the Ohio Attorney
1:54:22
Speaker 10: General puts a statement out that says political violence is
1:54:25
Speaker 10: not okay. Amy Acton was attacked. We're praying for the victims.
1:54:30
Speaker 10: And so my mind first went to, I hope everyone's okay.
1:54:34
Speaker 10: And then the investigative journalism DNA kicked in. And so
1:54:38
Speaker 10: I started digging. And, you know, it's been the whole
1:54:42
Speaker 10: week digging. And here's what I know. The man did
1:54:46
Speaker 10: not lunch at Amy Acton. The man did not have
1:54:49
Speaker 10: weapons drawn. He was apparently carrying weapons. But as I've
1:54:52
Speaker 10: gotten reports, the information that would generally be there when
1:54:57
Speaker 10: they inventory what a suspect has, has been blacked out.
1:55:02
Speaker 10: The video that the alleged assailant is what he was
1:55:06
Speaker 10: called recorded has been withheld. And the body worn camera
1:55:13
Speaker 10: of the state highway patrolman who One report says took
1:55:17
Speaker 10: Andrew Havis, who was the guy who entered the tent,
1:55:20
Speaker 10: according to the prosecutor, video recording. The body-worn camera from
1:55:25
Speaker 10: the trooper, they will not turn over. So I've been
1:55:27
Speaker 10: pouring through the Canfield Police reports, the Ohio State Highway
1:55:31
Speaker 10: Patrol reports, the Mahoning County Sheriff reports, listening to the
1:55:36
Speaker 10: video of the prosecutor. And there's a lot there. I'll
1:55:41
Speaker 10: tell you what I've uncovered, but it certainly is not
1:55:43
Speaker 10: an assassination plot.
1:55:45
Speaker 1: Well, and you did post on your, I saw it
1:55:47
Speaker 1: on Facebook. I don't know if you have it on
1:55:48
Speaker 1: the ohiopressnetwork.com as well. The video from one of the
1:55:52
Speaker 1: people that was in the tent. Now, she had instructed
1:55:54
Speaker 1: everybody in there to turn their video cameras off, right?
1:55:57
Speaker 1: Don't record this for whatever reason as if, you know,
1:55:59
Speaker 1: you can turn off everybody's cell phone. But there is
1:56:02
Speaker 1: an angle that seems to show that there was very
1:56:06
Speaker 1: little disturbance. I didn't see anybody fall over in that
1:56:09
Speaker 1: angle of video. Now, granted, it doesn't show this Havis
1:56:11
Speaker 1: guy in the video from what I can tell, but
1:56:13
Speaker 1: It didn't look like a whole lot was going on, Jack.
1:56:16
Speaker 1: It's just like a crowd of people. And who hasn't
1:56:18
Speaker 1: gotten bumped into in a crowd of people? It just
1:56:20
Speaker 1: looked like a non-event.
1:56:22
Speaker 10: Yeah, it certainly looks like a non-event. The video that
1:56:25
Speaker 10: I put out, it shoots a certain range. And what
1:56:30
Speaker 10: you see is some group of people enter from the
1:56:34
Speaker 10: right side of the frame. And they're not there very long.
1:56:36
Speaker 10: But there's like no fighting. And as I read the reports,
1:56:41
Speaker 10: here's what I've come up with. There was a guy,
1:56:43
Speaker 10: the prosecutor said, that had his phone. It was out,
1:56:46
Speaker 10: and he was walking toward Amy Acton saying her name.
1:56:49
Speaker 10: He was trying to ask a question. But one report
1:56:52
Speaker 10: says that her security detail, which is comprised of the
1:56:55
Speaker 10: Ohio State Highway Patrol and maybe others, intercepted him. Now,
1:57:00
Speaker 10: I want to see the video. My interpretation, without seeing
1:57:03
Speaker 10: other video, is that they went to him. Now, here's
1:57:07
Speaker 10: my suspicion, and I can't prove it yet.
1:57:09
Speaker 1: I know where you're going.
1:57:10
Speaker 10: Go ahead.
1:57:10
Speaker 3: Okay.
1:57:11
Speaker 10: I think they went to him because he was recording
1:57:13
Speaker 10: and Amy Acton wanted no recordings. And so as they
1:57:17
Speaker 10: went to him, if he's looking at Amy Acton and
1:57:20
Speaker 10: recording and walking toward her, he may not be looking
1:57:23
Speaker 10: at the people who are trying to approach him. My
1:57:26
Speaker 10: guess is he might have been bumped. They may have
1:57:29
Speaker 10: tried to grab him. And in the process of that happening,
1:57:33
Speaker 10: we know that people fell to the ground. What I
1:57:35
Speaker 10: don't know is whether Havis caused them to fall to
1:57:38
Speaker 10: the ground, whether the security detail caused them to fall
1:57:40
Speaker 10: to the ground. And so what was, to me, an
1:57:45
Speaker 10: event that was maybe somebody stumbled and fell somehow turned
1:57:50
Speaker 10: into an armed assailant lunged at Amy Acton, and they
1:57:53
Speaker 10: treated it like political violence, and some people even said
1:57:56
Speaker 10: it was an assassination attempt. So what I do know
1:58:00
Speaker 10: is that the press did a piss-poor job yet again
1:58:03
Speaker 10: and took a press release instead of doing investigative work
1:58:07
Speaker 10: to report what happened.
1:58:09
Speaker 1: And Arthur? made it that much worse because without the evidence,
1:58:13
Speaker 1: which would confirm one way or another, wasn't an assassination attempt. Hey,
1:58:17
Speaker 1: let's see the video. We can either refute those rumors
1:58:19
Speaker 1: or say, you know what? Those people who speculated it
1:58:21
Speaker 1: was an assassination attempt were the right ones. Jack Windsor
1:58:24
Speaker 1: was wrong when he speculated it was just an accident.
1:58:26
Speaker 1: People bumped into each other. We're left to speculate, Jack.
1:58:29
Speaker 1: Isn't that right?
1:58:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
1:58:32
Speaker 1: Give us the damn evidence.
1:58:33
Speaker 10: Yeah, well, I'm trying to get the evidence. I've requested
1:58:36
Speaker 10: the evidence multiple times. I now will have to go
1:58:38
Speaker 10: to the court. There is a special court that was
1:58:41
Speaker 10: set up in Ohio by the legislature several years ago
1:58:44
Speaker 10: that allows me to go in and say, hey, here's
1:58:46
Speaker 10: the Ohio revised code on open records. Here's why I
1:58:49
Speaker 10: need it. And then within a week or so, we'll
1:58:51
Speaker 10: probably get those if they're not leaked. But listen, I
1:58:54
Speaker 10: want to take people back to the prosecutor spoke to
1:58:57
Speaker 10: the press earlier this week and said, not verbatim, but
1:59:01
Speaker 10: essentially the recording that we have is from the gentleman's phone.
1:59:06
Speaker 10: He's walking to the tent. He's not bum rushing, bull rushing, lunging.
1:59:10
Speaker 10: He's walking, saying her name, and the phone gets tasseled
1:59:16
Speaker 10: and it falls. And that's what we know. And we
1:59:18
Speaker 10: also know that the prosecutor said there's no evidence that
1:59:21
Speaker 10: there should be felony charges. Well, there are four charges
1:59:25
Speaker 10: because he was released on bond and there is a
1:59:27
Speaker 10: trial date set. The other interesting part is I get
1:59:30
Speaker 10: that he's not allowed to carry weapons. I get that
1:59:32
Speaker 10: he's not allowed to talk to Amy Acton or the
1:59:33
Speaker 10: people who were on the ground. We don't know who
1:59:36
Speaker 10: put them there or how they got there. I get
1:59:38
Speaker 10: that he's not allowed to have contact with them. But
1:59:40
Speaker 10: it's really strange to me that he's also been gagged.
1:59:42
Speaker 10: He's not allowed to talk to the press. Why would
1:59:45
Speaker 10: that be a condition of his being released on bond?
1:59:48
Speaker 1: So that's a civil rights violation.
1:59:51
Speaker 10: It is a First Amendment violation.
1:59:53
Speaker 1: It is a civil rights violation. I would say that
1:59:55
Speaker 1: is an unlawful, unconstitutional order. You can't restrain someone and
1:59:59
Speaker 1: tell them to keep their mouth shut. Protective order justified
2:00:02
Speaker 1: if the circumstances warrant. Depriving someone of their constitutional right
2:00:06
Speaker 1: to free speech, et cetera, no way. You'll run into
2:00:09
Speaker 1: court and get a judgment on that one. Jack Windsor,
2:00:12
Speaker 1: is there any question in your mind, legally you are
2:00:15
Speaker 1: and we are basically entitled to get that video?
2:00:18
Speaker 10: Absolutely not.
2:00:19
Speaker 4: Thank you.
2:00:19
Speaker 10: Because he's been charged.
2:00:21
Speaker 6: Right.
2:00:21
Speaker 10: He's not been charged with anything that the video would
2:00:25
Speaker 10: would sour the I mean, I guess the prosecutor would
2:00:28
Speaker 10: make the the argument. And I think this is what
2:00:30
Speaker 10: it's going to hinge on, that if there is a
2:00:32
Speaker 10: jury trial, then releasing that video would maybe somehow poison
2:00:37
Speaker 10: the well with the jurors. But I mean, come on,
2:00:41
Speaker 10: we're overcooking the grits grits on that.
2:00:43
Speaker 3: Right.
2:00:43
Speaker 4: I mean, that's just asinine to me.
2:00:45
Speaker 1: Don't go away. Washington Examiner did a write-up on Amy Acton's, well,
2:00:49
Speaker 1: her term as Ohio's medical director.
2:00:51
Speaker 2: The Talk Station.
2:00:52
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2:00:59
Speaker 1: a copy of the Washington Examiner expose on Dr. Amy
2:01:03
Speaker 1: Acton's time as medical director here in Ohio. Sounds like
2:01:06
Speaker 1: she had a bit of a struggle talking with Jack
2:01:07
Speaker 1: Windsor from the Ohio Press Network. Jack, not really a
2:01:11
Speaker 1: glowing review of Amy Acton's service to the state of Ohio.
2:01:15
Speaker 10: Man, Omanishevitz. So this story came out, it would have been,
2:01:19
Speaker 10: I guess, Wednesday night. And within an hour of it publishing,
2:01:23
Speaker 10: I had no less than a dozen text messages with
2:01:27
Speaker 10: the article in it. And the one that best describes
2:01:30
Speaker 10: it in my mind, a friend sent it with one word, damning.
2:01:35
Speaker 10: And I thought, well, I better read this. And then,
2:01:36
Speaker 10: of course, we published a summary of it and linked
2:01:40
Speaker 10: to the article. The short of it is this, Brian,
2:01:43
Speaker 10: there are five members of the state of Ohio government,
2:01:46
Speaker 10: a government from health department, governor's office, career civil service workers,
2:01:53
Speaker 10: at least five, who said that Amy Acton was at
2:01:56
Speaker 10: times absent from the daily sessions where advisors reviewed case
2:02:00
Speaker 10: counts and decided shut down orders before each of those
2:02:03
Speaker 10: afternoon press conferences. We all remember those really well. And
2:02:07
Speaker 10: former senior staffer for Governor Mike DeWine's office, recalled the
2:02:12
Speaker 10: governor asking on multiple occasions, Amy, what do you think?
2:02:16
Speaker 10: Does anybody know where Amy is? And Amy would not
2:02:19
Speaker 10: be present, sometimes not showing up. Other times she had
2:02:22
Speaker 10: to be chased down and brought in. Someone else said
2:02:25
Speaker 10: there were times that they weren't sure that she was
2:02:27
Speaker 10: going to show up for the press conference. Now I
2:02:29
Speaker 10: have a personal experience with that. I'll tell you about
2:02:32
Speaker 10: why I think that is a little bit later on. And, uh,
2:02:36
Speaker 10: you know, there was one instance you mentioned it earlier
2:02:39
Speaker 10: where she was found, uh, curled up. I'm thinking fetal position, crying, overwhelmed.
2:02:46
Speaker 10: Another time she was crying in the bathroom and unable
2:02:48
Speaker 10: to attend what were called these emergency meetings where they
2:02:51
Speaker 10: had decisions to make about COVID. And so, you know,
2:02:55
Speaker 10: there are a lot of layers to this, but there
2:02:57
Speaker 10: have been a lot of questions about whether Amy Acton
2:03:00
Speaker 10: can handle the pressure when things get tough because she
2:03:02
Speaker 10: quit 94 days into her handling of COVID and then
2:03:06
Speaker 10: asked the personal medical advisor at 200 and some thousand
2:03:14
Speaker 10: dollars a year when the state was in the middle
2:03:15
Speaker 10: of a hiring crisis and that didn't last long. And
2:03:18
Speaker 10: then she went on and of course the job hopping
2:03:20
Speaker 10: continued for three to four more years. So the question is,
2:03:24
Speaker 10: is she able to handle the pressure? And then the
2:03:27
Speaker 10: other question is, if she was absent so much, who
2:03:30
Speaker 10: the hell was making these determinations that shut down our schools,
2:03:34
Speaker 10: shut down our businesses and decided that basically we had
2:03:37
Speaker 10: to enter into this new normal that none of us
2:03:40
Speaker 10: voted for or agreed with.
2:03:41
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I find it rather odd, and
2:03:44
Speaker 1: maybe I can get your reaction, how it is that
2:03:47
Speaker 1: it seems Governor DeWine keeps coming to her defense in
2:03:50
Speaker 1: little ways here and there, notably saying, no, it's my responsibility.
2:03:53
Speaker 1: I'm the one that, yeah, the buck may stop with DeWine.
2:03:56
Speaker 1: He has the signature authority to, I guess, enact a lockdown,
2:03:59
Speaker 1: but he did it at her behest and at her recommendation.
2:04:01
Speaker 1: Without Amy Acton, there wouldn't have been any Ohio lockdown,
2:04:04
Speaker 1: I suppose, right? That's right. That's right.
2:04:07
Speaker 10: And, you know, I've really mulled over this a lot
2:04:10
Speaker 10: in the past couple of days, and I think it
2:04:11
Speaker 10: comes down to two things. So you have to bear
2:04:13
Speaker 10: with me on this. Either he's a rhino protecting rhinos
2:04:17
Speaker 10: and people like Amy Acton who love big government, and
2:04:20
Speaker 10: he doesn't like people like Vivek Ramaswamy who proposes to
2:04:23
Speaker 10: come in, shake things up, do it entirely differently. And
2:04:26
Speaker 10: certainly that's going to totally hurt some of the traditional
2:04:30
Speaker 10: GOP donor class members and business as usual at the statehouse.
2:04:34
Speaker 10: And that might make Governor DeWine uncomfortable. He kind of
2:04:37
Speaker 10: loves that rhino path that John Kasich carved, and he
2:04:41
Speaker 10: has walked down for eight years. So it's either that,
2:04:43
Speaker 10: or I think it's this. Mike DeWine is all ego.
2:04:46
Speaker 10: Mike DeWine cares about his legacy, and he cannot get
2:04:51
Speaker 10: over the fact that Amy Acton did a terrible job
2:04:54
Speaker 10: as the health director during COVID, caused more harm than good,
2:04:58
Speaker 10: He looks at that as a stain on his legacy
2:05:00
Speaker 10: reputation and says, well, you know what? I'm going to
2:05:02
Speaker 10: defend her. And if she does well later on, then
2:05:04
Speaker 10: I can point back and say, well, she did well
2:05:06
Speaker 10: in the election or, hey, she ended up being the
2:05:08
Speaker 10: next governor. So the 94 days that she was in
2:05:10
Speaker 10: my cabinet working for me must have been impactful. Look
2:05:13
Speaker 10: at me. I'm great. I think that's what it is.
2:05:15
Speaker 10: I think he's just afraid to look like a loser.
2:05:17
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to go with answer C, all of
2:05:21
Speaker 1: the above. It's all of the above. Jack Windsor, don't
2:05:24
Speaker 1: go away. We got more to talk about coming after
2:05:25
Speaker 1: these brief words.
2:05:26
Speaker 4: Stick around.
2:05:26
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2:05:45
Speaker 1: right now. Hey, Jack Windsor, what's a more difficult role?
2:05:48
Speaker 1: Medical director for the state of Ohio or governor of
2:05:51
Speaker 1: the state of Ohio. One role seemed to have a
2:05:53
Speaker 1: little more weight, more responsibility, maybe a little more pressure
2:05:55
Speaker 1: than the other one.
2:05:56
Speaker 4: Anybody, huh?
2:05:57
Speaker 5: Maybe?
2:05:59
Speaker 10: Well, you know, I've gone back and looked at her
2:06:02
Speaker 10: medical training, her medical license, her internship. And she started
2:06:08
Speaker 10: out thinking she wanted to be a pediatrician. And then
2:06:11
Speaker 10: I think years two and three of her medical studies,
2:06:15
Speaker 10: she went to the public health path. And you go, well,
2:06:19
Speaker 10: why are you talking about that? Because that's what she
2:06:21
Speaker 10: was trained for. She was trained for the job that
2:06:24
Speaker 10: she had during COVID in 2020, and she lasted 94 days.
2:06:28
Speaker 10: So now she wants to take on a state government
2:06:32
Speaker 10: that has, I can't remember, 50,000 employees maybe, a budget
2:06:36
Speaker 10: of $ 100 billion each biennium. If she couldn't get the
2:06:41
Speaker 10: public health thing right, it's going to take a really
2:06:44
Speaker 10: strong dose of, potent marijuana for people to think that
2:06:48
Speaker 10: she's going to be able to be the next governor
2:06:50
Speaker 10: of the state of Ohio and not crack under pressure.
2:06:52
Speaker 1: Well, and you read the Washington Examiner's article bringing it down.
2:06:56
Speaker 1: I mean, it clearly gives you the impression, and granted,
2:07:00
Speaker 1: it's the opinions of five people that work with her
2:07:03
Speaker 1: around this time, but it gives the impression that she
2:07:05
Speaker 1: cracks under pressure. She can't handle it. And that would
2:07:10
Speaker 1: answer the question about why she seems to be a
2:07:12
Speaker 1: coward in the face of engaging in a debate with
2:07:14
Speaker 1: Vivek Ramaswamy. She won't do it. And she provides these
2:07:17
Speaker 1: ridiculous explanations as to why, and I keep referring to
2:07:20
Speaker 1: her as a coward. This is simple cowardice. Maybe it's
2:07:24
Speaker 1: a recognition of her own incompetence that she won't debate,
2:07:26
Speaker 1: and maybe she knows she'll never be able to answer
2:07:28
Speaker 1: questions like we're talking about right now on these issues.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but When you read the article and
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Speaker 1: you think, oh, this is the woman that refuses to
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Speaker 1: debate when she wants to be governor of the state
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Speaker 1: of Ohio, I think we come to one reasonable conclusion, Jack.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely. Let me give you my lived experience. There
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Speaker 10: were two occasions during Governor DeWine's COVID pressers when I
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Speaker 10: was still able to ask questions and DeWine had not
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Speaker 10: violated my First Amendment right to appear and ask questions.
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Speaker 10: I would ask tough questions and twice I confronted her
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Speaker 10: with information that was contradictory. The next day, she did
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Speaker 10: not attend COVID pressers. And I remember thinking, wow, okay,
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Speaker 10: I wasn't trying to be mean. She must have been
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Speaker 10: devastated and she didn't show up. So that's number one.
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Speaker 10: So there is this pattern of being unable to handle
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Speaker 10: tough situations and and cope in a way that allows
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Speaker 10: you to show up and show up to do your best.
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Speaker 10: That's just evidence. And so that's part of why she
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Speaker 10: won't debate. And think about how that is now extending
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Speaker 10: into her campaign. You and I both know candidates spend
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Speaker 10: millions of dollars each election cycle to get on TV
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Speaker 10: and in front of voters. Why in the world would
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Speaker 10: Amy Acton not want people recording at her events and
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Speaker 10: organically posting those recordings online? That's free publicity. And you go, okay,
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Speaker 10: so there must be a bigger issue than her being noticed.
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Speaker 10: What is it? It's what she would be noticed for.
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Speaker 10: And notice what happened last weekend. She was recorded when
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Speaker 10: Pete Buttigieg was on stage. And as soon as that
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Speaker 10: video hit, it went viral. And the consensus was, I'm
2:09:01
Speaker 10: not saying she's a drunk, but I'm saying she sounds
2:09:03
Speaker 10: kind of drunk in this video. That's part and parcel
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Speaker 10: as well. But let's go to the bigger issue here.
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Speaker 10: And I'm going to boil this down. Sorry, I'm so long-winded.
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Speaker 4: That's all right.
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Speaker 10: The bigger issue is the Democrat Party putting her up.
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Speaker 10: I mean, let's think about this. This is a woman
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Speaker 10: who can't debate. This is a woman who couldn't handle
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Speaker 10: the position that she trained for her whole life. And
2:09:21
Speaker 10: now they want to make her governor, but they're not
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Speaker 10: going to put her on a stage. They're not going
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Speaker 10: to let people record her. And you go, well, why
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Speaker 10: is that? Well, that's because David Pepper is the Democrat operative.
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Speaker 10: Let's not make any bones about it. He's going to
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Speaker 10: run that operation if she's elected. And they're using her
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Speaker 10: the same way the Democrats used Joe Biden in 2024.
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Speaker 1: Isn't that truth? And the same campaign. Keep him in
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Speaker 1: the basement. But, you know, Jack, the one thing you
2:09:42
Speaker 1: can at least argue about Joe Biden hiding in his basement,
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Speaker 1: they could claim it was because of COVID-19. You know,
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Speaker 1: he's a senior. You know, he's in the crosshairs of COVID-19.
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Speaker 1: He's one of the most likely people to drop dead
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Speaker 1: because he's old or whatever. Hide in the basement. He
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Speaker 1: got away with it. But those days are gone. Amy
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Speaker 1: Acton being out loud in public, but not taking questions
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Speaker 1: from the press, not debating. That is a coward. It
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Speaker 1: is a coward.
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Speaker 10: It is a coward. And all that they've done then,
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Speaker 10: every question that comes up, every opportunity to sully or
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Speaker 10: defame or smear someone, they go to these little, we've
2:10:15
Speaker 10: talked about this in the past, these little progressive blogs
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Speaker 10: that pretend to be news outlets. And they put these
2:10:21
Speaker 10: stories out and then they republish their stories on their
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Speaker 10: social media feeds to get their lackeys and their followers
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Speaker 10: to believe these really bad things about reporters like me
2:10:29
Speaker 10: and candidates like Vivek Ramaswamy and so on and so forth.
2:10:32
Speaker 10: And so instead of engaging with voters and confronting issues
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Speaker 10: with real policy choices and platforms, they just opt for
2:10:41
Speaker 10: smear campaigns and hiding in the basement. And I think
2:10:44
Speaker 10: people will see through that. We have, what, 60-some days now?
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Speaker 10: But it's going to be really interesting.
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Speaker 1: It already is, Jack Windsor. And I'm glad we have
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Speaker 1: an opportunity to talk with you about it. I appreciate
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Speaker 1: what you're doing, theohiopressnetwork.com, to follow Jack throughout the week
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Speaker 1: and tune in again. We'll do it next Friday at
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Speaker 1: 8.30 again. Brother, it's always a pleasure having you on
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Speaker 1: the 55KRC Morning Show.
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Speaker 2: Honored to be here.
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Speaker 10: Have a great weekend.