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Cowboys StoryLine: What to do with Pickens? · Cowboys StoryLine

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  Speaker 1: Is a production of dallascowboys.com and the dallas cowboys football.
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  Speaker 2: What's up welcome to cowboy storyline presented by gillette it's
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  Speaker 2: tuesday november the third i'm nick eatman let's talk cowboys
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  Speaker 2: football let's see how they get this thing righted in
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  Speaker 2: the right direction it's gonna be tough i'm at three
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  Speaker 2: and five they're obviously not one of the top teams
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  Speaker 2: in the nfc this is where they kind of thought
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  Speaker 2: they would be at least right there in the In
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  Speaker 2: the hunt, you're still in there, obviously. I'm not trying
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  Speaker 2: to tell you guys something you don't know, but definitely
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  Speaker 2: a lot of work to do. We'll see if the
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  Speaker 2: Cowboys have the pieces in place to do it. That's
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  Speaker 2: the big question to me. Are they good enough? Are
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  Speaker 2: they talented enough? We see the names. We see the contracts.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like these are a lot of really good
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  Speaker 2: pieces to this team, but for some reason, it's not gelling.
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  Speaker 2: When that happens, then obviously the coaches get blamed and
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  Speaker 2: they're obviously getting their share of criticism too, and rightfully so.
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  Speaker 2: So you don't have enough fingers to do the finger
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  Speaker 2: pointing here. And you know what? To be fair, all
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  Speaker 2: of us. You know what I mean? When I look
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  Speaker 2: at that and I say, well, we all expected this,
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  Speaker 2: that's the thing and the one thing I always hate
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  Speaker 2: about the media is the media pumps up this team,
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  Speaker 2: this team is supposed to be really good, and then
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  Speaker 2: they don't. They don't make the playoffs, and then they're like, well, wow.
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  Speaker 2: Were they underachieved? Well, did they? Or do you guys just,
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  Speaker 2: you know, do we not know what we're talking about either?
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  Speaker 2: And all of that is on the table here.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go to the callers. Davion in Illinois. Davion, what's up?
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  Speaker 4: What's going on? What it do, my boy? What it do?
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  Speaker 4: What the business is?
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  Speaker 2: How you doing, man?
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing good, man. It's a little bit better today.
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  Speaker 4: A couple of things. First and foremost, I think you,
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  Speaker 4: you know, listened to the show yesterday and I think
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  Speaker 4: the person that needs to probably be either looked at
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  Speaker 4: or probably removed is Ryan Feeder. I mean, that's the
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  Speaker 4: game manager guy. I think that Brian uses to try
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  Speaker 4: to do the game manager stuff. There's been a couple
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  Speaker 4: losses that basically came down to game management. If you
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  Speaker 4: do it a little better, we should win them games.
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  Speaker 4: But I think we need to do something with that,
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  Speaker 4: figure out another way of doing it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Davion, what I don't know here is– exactly
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  Speaker 2: how that whole dynamic is if he's still doing the
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  Speaker 2: same things that he was I mean after Baltimore and
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  Speaker 2: how that ended in Rio I feel like there were
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  Speaker 2: some changes it hasn't really come out on who's doing
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  Speaker 2: what there but like I said yesterday whatever it is
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  Speaker 2: it's not it hadn't gotten a lot better you know
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  Speaker 2: so and it you know this this wasn't was another
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  Speaker 2: example of that so The reason why I hesitate calling
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  Speaker 2: out names is because I don't know exactly who's doing
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  Speaker 2: what and all that, but if there is the same
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  Speaker 2: person that's been doing it all season, that person needs
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  Speaker 2: to be removed. It's not working. It's really just not working.
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  Speaker 4: You are correct.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that what you had? Isn't that what you leaned
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  Speaker 2: on with Schottenheimer? I mean, isn't that why he's never
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  Speaker 2: done this before? But what has he done? He's been
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  Speaker 2: to almost every team and he's coached in everywhere. And
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  Speaker 2: his dad obviously was a great coach and all that.
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  Speaker 2: So that's what they were leaning on anyways. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: saying you don't have somebody you can kind of, you know,
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  Speaker 2: talk to every now and again on situations, but I
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  Speaker 2: thought that's what Shadi was supposed to help with the most,
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  Speaker 2: you know? So it's a lot to ask, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: just saying let's not act like this is– I mean, Shadi,
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  Speaker 2: you know, sitting at the kitchen table with his dad
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  Speaker 2: and all this stuff, isn't that kind of what we thought?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think he would need a lot of help anyways,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm really being honest about it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Hey, we're on the same page. And to that fact,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I've been– I've been rolling with
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  Speaker 4: you since 97, since I got William in West Virginia.
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  Speaker 4: So you had said something else on the show, and,
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  Speaker 4: you know, just listening to the show back, you didn't
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  Speaker 4: kind of... I know Derek used to tease you about
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  Speaker 4: this back in the day of being the employer. So basically,
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  Speaker 4: when you implied it by JPJ, that me and you
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  Speaker 4: was a one accord. I think my spidey senses are tingling, too, about...
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  Speaker 4: This anger injury is really that serious where we couldn't
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  Speaker 4: get you to strap it up one series. Everything was
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  Speaker 4: going crazy Sunday and shut down at one side of
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  Speaker 4: the field. So we don't have Blaine turning to the
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  Speaker 4: human torch again. It's just crazy that he couldn't give
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  Speaker 4: us at least one series. And I think my thinking is,
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  Speaker 4: I think he got the injury. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 4: say he don't. I think to the point where he's
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  Speaker 4: just trying to say, I get a little bit, but
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  Speaker 4: I'm not going to really push it until I get
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  Speaker 4: that contract signed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Davion, yeah. That's a great theory. That's a great theory.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Anything else? We need to move it on.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, okay, okay. One question. Who do you think Jared
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  Speaker 4: was talking about when he was talking about who people
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  Speaker 4: let Coach Brian down? And I'm off. I'll let everybody
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  Speaker 4: get in.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, man. Davion, I only have an hour show here,
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  Speaker 2: if that, so I'm not going to go through all
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  Speaker 2: of it. I think he was just talking about the players,
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  Speaker 2: you know, just– Just the team. Yeah, just the team
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  Speaker 2: in general. Maybe the assistants. I don't know. I think
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  Speaker 2: he's talking about just the players. It was there for
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  Speaker 2: the take, and they let him down. But I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if I agree with all of it. I think
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  Speaker 2: it was a little bit of everything. I think some
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  Speaker 2: of the decisions that they made and that he's a
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  Speaker 2: part of that he should be making, I think that
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  Speaker 2: didn't help the team either. I mean, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it's just... you know, I'm not going to sit here
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  Speaker 2: and say coaches had it right. The players didn't execute.
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  Speaker 2: I thought there were some decisions made and not made
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  Speaker 2: in the game that kind of affected a lot of that. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I just, again, I go back to the
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  Speaker 2: end of the half.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: I think there's some things you can do to try
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  Speaker 2: to maybe get a little bit more manageable field goal
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  Speaker 2: and things like that. And when the game goes overtime,
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  Speaker 2: then everything matters. You know, every decision you made that
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  Speaker 2: instead of getting a field goal, you would get a
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  Speaker 2: touchdown or vice versa. Every decision changes when the game
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  Speaker 2: is tied at the end of regulation. Now you go
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  Speaker 2: back to, man, if we would have had that, does
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  Speaker 2: it change? Is it different? So, yeah. All right. But
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  Speaker 2: as far as the– got to be careful when you're
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  Speaker 2: talking about Joey Porter Jr. and situations like that. I'm
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  Speaker 2: throwing it out there because we've seen it all, right?
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  Speaker 2: We've seen this. We've seen this before. And we've seen
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  Speaker 2: it with him because he came in here joking about
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  Speaker 2: a back injury, right? So let's not act like everything's
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  Speaker 2: not on the table here.
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  Speaker 5: It is.
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  Speaker 2: And when I say on the table, we're talking about
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  Speaker 2: Micah and Micah's agent. And it's the same with Joey
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  Speaker 2: Porter and the same type of situation. So I think
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  Speaker 2: when Davion said that about, I'm going to give you
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. I'm going to give you reasons why.
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  Speaker 2: that I, I need a big contract and then I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to remind you that I don't. And that kind
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  Speaker 2: of stuff. That's again, it's very tough to talk about
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  Speaker 2: a situation like that. Cause you just don't know if
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  Speaker 2: he could be dealing with a really major ankle injury.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. But, um, I think, and it's not
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  Speaker 2: just on Joey Porter. I think gone are the days
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  Speaker 2: that a lot of these players are like, I'm going to,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to go out there, you know, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to strap this up and we're going to go,
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  Speaker 2: go get a victory. You know, I mean, does it matter?
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  Speaker 5: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: But, again, he's made it very clear what he wants
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  Speaker 2: and what he needs. This is a guy that grew
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  Speaker 2: up in Pittsburgh. His dad was a lifelong Pittsburgh Steeler player,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and he's like, well, you know, if it
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  Speaker 2: doesn't work, it doesn't work. I'm going to go somewhere else.
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  Speaker 2: So it's been very clear. I'm not trying to knock
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  Speaker 2: the player. He's been outstanding. He's been outstanding when he's
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  Speaker 2: on the field he's playing. You would have liked for
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  Speaker 2: him to be able to play some because he changes
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  Speaker 2: that much of a game. So, Hopefully they can get
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  Speaker 2: that right and get him whatever they need to do
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  Speaker 2: to get him on the field more. That needs to happen.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Joe in Rochester, New York. Joe, what's up?
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  Speaker 3: Hey, it's a long-time listener. I've only called you, I think,
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  Speaker 3: three years ago one time. So it's the second time
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  Speaker 3: I've called in.
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  Speaker 2: That's good enough.
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  Speaker 3: I'd like to recommend the coaches watch two movies, Braveheart
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  Speaker 3: and Patton, and show some emotion. I don't see any emotion.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's how some of these teams that have
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  Speaker 3: a lot less talent– than we do, they play with
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  Speaker 3: an emotion of coming in, let's beat the Cowboys. And
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  Speaker 3: we go in there feeling like it seems like that
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  Speaker 3: we've already got it won, and that's done. And I
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  Speaker 3: just don't see the emotion in the coaches when Coach
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  Speaker 3: Shottie talks about the team and everything else. It's calm, collected,
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  Speaker 3: and then we lose. And emotion plays a lot of
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  Speaker 3: part in this game. I remember growing up in Texas
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  Speaker 3: playing football ever since I was in first grade And
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  Speaker 3: we beat some teams that we should never have beaten
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  Speaker 3: because of the emotion that was behind it.
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  Speaker 5: How long have you been a Cowboys fan?
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  Speaker 6: Since they started.
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  Speaker 3: I'm 74 years old. I started watching the Cowboys when
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  Speaker 3: I was sitting on my grandpa's lap and listening to
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  Speaker 3: them on the radio because they weren't even on TV.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Joe, I have to throw this back at you.
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  Speaker 7: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: The head coach that you first saw back then, how
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  Speaker 2: much emotion did he have?
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  Speaker 3: Are you talking about Landry?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the only coach that... Well, he had.
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  Speaker 4: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I understand.
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  Speaker 3: But Shotty's not Landry. And Landry was, at the practices,
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  Speaker 3: he would get on the players. You might not see
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  Speaker 3: it on the field on Sunday, but he had it
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  Speaker 3: during the week. And how about Jimmy Johnson? That guy
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  Speaker 3: had so much emotion.
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  Speaker 9: Holy smokes.
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  Speaker 3: He could start a fire underneath wet wood. I just
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  Speaker 3: don't see the emotion.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, I'm not arguing with you, but if
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  Speaker 2: you're saying I didn't see the emotion with Landry, you
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  Speaker 2: said it happened during practice. I mean, are you sure
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  Speaker 2: that it doesn't happen out here at practice with Shoddy?
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  Speaker 3: We don't hear about it.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, maybe not.
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  Speaker 3: Have you been to their practices?
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  Speaker 2: I've been to their practices, yeah. There's a lot of emotion. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: what's funny about this is that there's people that will
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  Speaker 2: criticize him for having too much emotion, too much rah-rah,
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  Speaker 2: too much of this stuff.
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  Speaker 3: At practice, it's... Maybe he needs to have it in
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  Speaker 3: the game.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe, maybe. I... I don't know. Again, I've seen– the
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  Speaker 2: reason why I say that about Landry is, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you named Landry and you named Jimmy Johnson, those first
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  Speaker 2: two coaches I ever saw with the Cowboys, and they
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  Speaker 2: were different, obviously, in how they– Oh, yeah. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 2: the results– That's all people care about are the results.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't like to get into too much of that.
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  Speaker 2: They need to play with the fire. You're not wrong
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  Speaker 2: in saying this, that whatever it is, the Cowboys are
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  Speaker 2: losing to too many teams that they probably should win.
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  Speaker 2: They're better than some of these teams. Their record is better.
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  Speaker 2: They're supposed to win. They're at home. And they don't
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  Speaker 2: find a way to win these games. They're actually finding
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  Speaker 2: ways to lose the game. And that goes back to it.
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  Speaker 5: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Here's the word thing. Look up the definition of S-H-O-D-D-Y.
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  Speaker 5: Shoddy.
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  Speaker 8: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: We have shoddy tackling. We have shoddy running. We have
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  Speaker 3: shoddy blocking. And we've got shoddy as a coach. Isn't
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  Speaker 3: that interesting?
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  Speaker 8: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I'm still a Cowboys fan. I still root for them.
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  Speaker 3: I'm up here in mafia land, and I still root
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  Speaker 3: for them.
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  Speaker 2: All right. All right, Joe, thanks for the call. Appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's keep it going here. Jeremy in Salt
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  Speaker 2: Lake City.
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  Speaker 8: Jeremy. Hey, what's up?
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  Speaker 5: Nice.
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  Speaker 8: That was a great play on words by Joe. But, man,
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  Speaker 8: I'm okay. It's been a long 24 hours. It's cooled
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  Speaker 8: down a little bit. But it's just, I don't know,
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  Speaker 8: I'm listening to all these different people. First of all, Davion,
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  Speaker 8: I remember he had you speechless there for seconds. That
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  Speaker 8: was kind of fun to watch.
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  Speaker 2: But, uh, JPJ, he didn't have me speechless.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I, I laid out on that one.
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  Speaker 8: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Like, like after the game, what this team, I was speechless.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what to say. What, what the problem is. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: I got lots to say about that, but you know what?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah. Anyway. So, yeah. Um, as far as like the emotion,
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  Speaker 8: things like that, I think what people are, You know,
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  Speaker 8: like Joe was trying to say is like some of
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  Speaker 8: us respond better to the ass kicker, right? Some of
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  Speaker 8: us respond better to the carrot, right? And you can't
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  Speaker 8: really say which way is better and which way is worse.
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  Speaker 8: But especially when there's big emotional losses like this, you
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  Speaker 8: want to see somebody get yelled at. You want to
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  Speaker 8: see somebody get in trouble. I get it. But it's
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  Speaker 8: not really rational, right? At the same time, how is
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  Speaker 8: that going to make– the team better it may or
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  Speaker 8: may not. You know, I always liked coach Zimmer for
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  Speaker 8: his fire for that kind of thing. But the biggest
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  Speaker 8: thing is, yeah, that I think that's what everybody's kind
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  Speaker 8: of trying to say is like, there's, there's a lack
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  Speaker 8: of a visual, like emotion. Like it, it seems that
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  Speaker 8: some people just don't care whether, you know, we win
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  Speaker 8: or lose. And that's, what's frustrating to the fans, I think.
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  Speaker 8: And I don't know if that's coaches, you know, His culture,
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  Speaker 8: his style, obviously you hit it nail on the head
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  Speaker 8: where whatever they're doing right now isn't working. I've been
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  Speaker 8: saying since the season opener, I don't know if he
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  Speaker 8: has the capacity to call plays and manage the game
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  Speaker 8: at the same time. And whether they have somebody else
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  Speaker 8: doing it or whatever, I don't know. That dynamic obviously
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  Speaker 8: isn't working. It's been frustrating for me. from the very,
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  Speaker 8: very first game because of all the clock management stuff.
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  Speaker 8: It's been an issue in every single game. And if
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  Speaker 8: they could clean that part of it up, I mean,
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  Speaker 8: think of what our record would be right now if
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  Speaker 8: we were smart in situational football. And that's what's got
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  Speaker 8: me probably most frustrated about anything. And if you could
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  Speaker 8: just kind of talk on that. I'll listen and go Cowboys.
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  Speaker 8: I'm still in it. I ain't quitting. You know, I'm
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  Speaker 8: not going to stop watching games. I'm not going to
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  Speaker 8: boycott the Cowboys. Those people are stupid. Knock it off.
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  Speaker 8: You're going to watch next week. I'm still going to
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  Speaker 8: buy the jerseys. And, you know, that's about it. But later, bro.
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  Speaker 8: Thanks a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for the call. You know, one thing I always
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  Speaker 2: talk about when you go back and you're reviewing games,
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  Speaker 2: I think I've learned this lesson over the years that
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  Speaker 2: everything is pretty much, you know, things even out how
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  Speaker 2: they should. You know, you might flip the coin and
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  Speaker 2: it might be tails five times in a row, but
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  Speaker 2: it's probably after 100. It's probably going to be close,
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  Speaker 2: you know, so you have to even things out and
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  Speaker 2: you got to be, you know, if you're going to
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  Speaker 2: be rational about it. So if you're going to look
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  Speaker 2: at these games and go, God, Baltimore, you should have
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  Speaker 2: won that game in Rio. Yeah, 100% should have could have.
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  Speaker 2: Could have done things a couple things differently there early
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  Speaker 2: in the game and even there at the very, very end.
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  Speaker 2: Very winnable game. This one, obviously, very winnable game. When
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  Speaker 2: you're talking about one play here and there that could
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  Speaker 2: have changed everything, yeah, that's tough. However, you know, I
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  Speaker 2: look at the record and I look at these games
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  Speaker 2: and how the ones that these coin flip type games,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's been three of them. The Cowboys are
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  Speaker 2: one and two. they, they did win the game against
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  Speaker 2: Houston and that was tough. And that there was a
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  Speaker 2: player or two there. I'm sure Houston would have been like, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: we do this, this, everything's different. So, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that they were great in clock management
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  Speaker 2: or anything like that at the end of that game.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying these games come down to the wire.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: It comes down to a player too. There's three that
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: you can really look at right now and say, all right, which,
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: which ones, you know, and now the giants game in
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: week one and the, Tampa game, those were eight-point games,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: and so it was close. Green Bay, you weren't winning
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: that one. And this Philly and Washington game that they won,
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: those Cowboys kind of had control of that. But it
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: really comes down to three games. The Cowboys are one
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: and two in those games. And so I think it's
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: a real big issue if you look at it at
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: the end of the season and you go, man, there
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: were seven one-score games down to the very end, and
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: you're 1-6 or 2-5 or something like that. But I
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: have a feeling that these close games like that are
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: going to come down to it, and it's going to
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: be pretty close. What you want to do is try
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: to avoid those if you can, but I think that's
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: just what this team is, to be honest. All right,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Rick in Massachusetts is next.
• 18:00
  Speaker 10: Hey, Rick.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: Hey, Nick.
• 18:03
  Speaker 8: How you doing?
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: Good.
• 18:04
  Speaker 8: How are you?
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: I'm good. I'm good.
• 18:08
  Speaker 9: No, I'm usually a positive one, like Sergeant Sue, after
• 18:13
  Speaker 9: the game, and then the next day I start coming around,
• 18:18
  Speaker 9: so I'm good. But I always learn that through life
• 18:22
  Speaker 9: with military and everything. You've got to always come with
• 18:24
  Speaker 9: a positive attitude. If you don't, you come in as
• 18:27
  Speaker 9: a grumpy and everything, your day is going to go bad.
• 18:30
  Speaker 9: So just come with a positive attitude and keep going forward.
• 18:35
  Speaker 9: and it makes the day go a little bit faster,
• 18:37
  Speaker 9: a little better.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 18:39
  Speaker 9: Than trying to be. But to point out, we have
• 18:43
  Speaker 9: a Cowboy Space coming up on Wednesday. If you want
• 18:47
  Speaker 9: to get in, just come in. It's on Twitter Spaces.
• 18:49
  Speaker 9: We talk for a couple hours. We just talk about
• 18:52
  Speaker 9: a lot of things. Always come with solutions. Don't come
• 18:55
  Speaker 9: just griping and visionary. Come with solutions, and that makes
• 19:00
  Speaker 9: a better day. conversation is there you have solutions as
• 19:06
  Speaker 9: said just pitching a moaning about while jerry should be
• 19:09
  Speaker 9: fired jerry should we go get a new we got
• 19:11
  Speaker 9: to get a general manager we go to what solutions
• 19:14
  Speaker 9: right right and we had the last one we had
• 19:17
  Speaker 9: was very good because everybody was had solutions but as
• 19:21
  Speaker 9: far as everything is all i you know Hopefully we
• 19:25
  Speaker 9: can change this rut of win one, lose one, so
• 19:28
  Speaker 9: on and forth. Because if we go on by that,
• 19:31
  Speaker 9: we're going to beat the Colts. We're going to lose
• 19:34
  Speaker 9: the 49ers. Come back and beat the Titans and then
• 19:38
  Speaker 9: go from there. But I think we still have a
• 19:42
  Speaker 9: shot at winning the division. We still have a shot
• 19:45
  Speaker 9: of making the playoff. And I'm going with that. You know,
• 19:51
  Speaker 9: it's like this. Go Cowboys. And we're going to get
• 19:54
  Speaker 9: a win against the Colts. And who knows? Every given Sunday.
• 20:00
  Speaker 9: That's if you want to watch any given Sunday. You know,
• 20:03
  Speaker 9: you can come in. No matter who you're playing against,
• 20:07
  Speaker 9: you can win that game. Just look like... Other teams
• 20:10
  Speaker 9: are like Arizona goes out and beats the Rams. Who
• 20:13
  Speaker 9: thought that? But, you know, it is what it is.
• 20:16
  Speaker 9: So just go in, and by the end of the year,
• 20:20
  Speaker 9: here we be. We win the division. We go into
• 20:22
  Speaker 9: the playoffs. Let's go from there.
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 20:24
  Speaker 8: Go Cowboys.
• 20:25
  Speaker 9: Thank you. Have a good day. Talk to you later.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: All right. Thanks, Rick. I'm going to go back to
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: one of the previous callers, really the last two callers,
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: kind of talking a little bit about emotions and, and,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: and fire and all that kind of stuff. Um, you know, I, I,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: I've just seen different ways to do it. I've seen,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: and that's, and not just in coaches. I mean, just
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: people and how they respond to things, you know, how, how,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: how they, how their demeanor is, you know, it doesn't
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: mean that they're not serious about what they're doing. They just,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: they just handle their emotions differently and they, they kind
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: of channel it to, you know, their energy into different,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: different ways. Um, so, and I think you, you can
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: just look at successful coaches that way, you know, some
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: of the great ones of all time, you know, I mean,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: going back to Landry or Bill Walsh or, or Tony
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Dungy or whatever. I mean, these teams, these guys had
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: success doing it that way. Um, and then there's, there's
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: different ways to do it. Bill Parcells, a different way,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: you know, um, it's different, different time. Look at these
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: guys now. I think they all kind of have a, uh,
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Some of them have a pretty serious demeanor, but it's
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: not necessarily ranting and raving and all that kind of stuff.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: But the point is that this goes back to other
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: things we've talked about too. You can criticize a coach
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: or a player or whatever for what you're seeing, what
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: they're not doing, things like that. How they act, I
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: don't know. I think you're always going to be disappointed
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: if you want these players to share your emotion you're
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: always going to be disappointed. And I learned that lesson
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: the very first. I've told this story a million times.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I won't tell it again. But the very first month
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I was here, I saw two games, two games with
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: two outcomes on the road. My very first two road
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: trips were the Washington 99 game in overtime coming back
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: from 21 points and Rockets scored the touchdown. And the
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: next one was Philadelphia in the rain. Michael Irvin gets injured,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: never plays again. and they lose to a winless Eagles team.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: And I'm telling you, the flight back looked the same.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: And I learned right then and there that the players
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: have a different way in how they handle this job
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: than the fans do. You guys, and I've been there,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: you let it bother you all week, and sometimes longer
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: than that. And it's just not the way that it is.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: These players are taking their jerseys off, and they're jerseying.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: you know, sharing them right there at the end of
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: the game and they're getting them signed and they're walking
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: into the tunnel with a red jersey on and not
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: the one that they just wore and they just don't
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: have the same kind of look on their face that
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: you want them to. And I get that. I totally
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: get that. You know how many times I've written stories
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: on the plane and have to wonder, like, Did they
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: win this game? Why is everyone all yelling and having
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: fun in the back? It happens. It happens. But again,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: like I say, you want them to be prepared all
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: week and get focused and get ready, and you can
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: question whether or not that happens all the time. All right,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: let's go to break here real quick on Cowboy Story,
• 23:37
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• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Cowboys Storyline, presented by Gillette. On Tuesdays,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: we talk about the precision player of the week. Somebody's
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: going to get it. How about Quinnen Williams? Had a
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: couple sacks. He's been playing well, leads this team in
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: tackles for loss and in sacks. Quinnen Williams, he's He's
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: getting the job done. He needs a little help, but
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: he's playing like the player that the Cowboys traded for.
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• 25:53
  Speaker 2: let's go to Sebastian in Savannah, Georgia. Sebastian.
• 25:56
  Speaker 14: What's going on, buddy?
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: How you doing?
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: Good.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: How are you?
• 25:58
  Speaker 14: I'm doing fine. I would give my precision player to
• 26:01
  Speaker 14: DeMarvin Overshawn, actually, if I was going for the defense
• 26:03
  Speaker 14: side of the ball. He's been making a lot of
• 26:04
  Speaker 14: plays for you since he came back. But straight to business,
• 26:07
  Speaker 14: because I think a lot of people missed it yesterday
• 26:09
  Speaker 14: when I started talking about my daughter at the beginning.
• 26:11
  Speaker 14: That was your quarterback day during his press conference, so
• 26:13
  Speaker 14: it's kind of a play on that, right? But I
• 26:15
  Speaker 14: understand that. That's exactly the point that you're making. The
• 26:18
  Speaker 14: humanistic element of this is when they leave the game
• 26:20
  Speaker 14: and take off the pads, the game is over for them.
• 26:22
  Speaker 14: It's not over for us until the next game. But
• 26:25
  Speaker 14: I have learned over time to disassociate with the football
• 26:29
  Speaker 14: games versus how I feel as a fan because we've
• 26:32
  Speaker 14: been struggling for a while. You can't carry this with
• 26:34
  Speaker 14: you all the time, and I know that fans will,
• 26:36
  Speaker 14: but my life as a whole is slightly different from
• 26:39
  Speaker 14: other people's and has a lot more stresses. So football
• 26:41
  Speaker 14: stress can't be the focus of what I have going on.
• 26:44
  Speaker 14: But I have to disagree real quick with Davion. I
• 26:47
  Speaker 14: love him, but It's not Ryan feeder's fault. The fingers
• 26:50
  Speaker 14: have to be pointed back at your head coach. Ryan
• 26:52
  Speaker 14: feeder's not telling them to go on two and third
• 26:54
  Speaker 14: into a shotgun play on the goal line, or not
• 26:57
  Speaker 14: have your best wide receivers out there. I can guarantee you.
• 26:59
  Speaker 14: Ryan feeder's not telling him to do that.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:01
  Speaker 14: There are some game management things that aren't going well,
• 27:04
  Speaker 14: but it's first and 10. And you're like, no CeeDee Lamb,
• 27:07
  Speaker 14: no George Pickens, basically. You're handing the defense your play
• 27:10
  Speaker 14: call sheet. The next play, and then the third down play,
• 27:13
  Speaker 14: where Dak ran it for the touchdown, it was a
• 27:16
  Speaker 14: horrendous play call, and Dak saved it. I started doing
• 27:20
  Speaker 14: some digging on Brian Schottenheimer, looking at his pass. And
• 27:25
  Speaker 14: in the early, he's defined, he's literally defined as a
• 27:27
  Speaker 14: run heavy with precision passing as his quarterback traits. But
• 27:31
  Speaker 14: somewhere along the line, He lost his way. I don't
• 27:34
  Speaker 14: know if he wanted to get out from underneath the
• 27:35
  Speaker 14: father tag of this is what Marty Stoudenheimer did, but
• 27:38
  Speaker 14: he lost his way, and he's not doing what got
• 27:41
  Speaker 14: him to where he is right now as a head coach.
• 27:44
  Speaker 14: It started in the Let Russell Cook era, but it
• 27:47
  Speaker 14: really kicked off in the Jacksonville Jaguar days where he
• 27:50
  Speaker 14: was the passing coordinator for Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence came out,
• 27:54
  Speaker 14: and everybody thought he was going to be superhuman, and
• 27:56
  Speaker 14: Brian got to him, and he had his best passing year.
• 27:59
  Speaker 14: He did. Just like Dak last year had one of
• 28:00
  Speaker 14: his best statistical years. But the games were being lost
• 28:04
  Speaker 14: over and over and over again. And we're starting to
• 28:06
  Speaker 14: see that bleed over into this. And it feels like
• 28:08
  Speaker 14: he's running out of spite instead of running a balanced
• 28:12
  Speaker 14: offense like he had always done with his earlier days
• 28:15
  Speaker 14: in his career. As far as your defense coordinator goes, listen,
• 28:19
  Speaker 14: he lost. He's completely lost out there. It's second and 10,
• 28:22
  Speaker 14: and he's got three down linemen rushing. and everybody's into
• 28:25
  Speaker 14: the sticks, and luckily they stopped at 4-5, but then
• 28:27
  Speaker 14: immediately he's running like a wide nine, and they give
• 28:30
  Speaker 14: up the first down, and then the Tyler has your run.
• 28:33
  Speaker 14: They came out in a run formation. He came out
• 28:37
  Speaker 14: in a nickel package with a wide nine set, and
• 28:40
  Speaker 14: it was the easiest run play this kid has ever
• 28:42
  Speaker 14: made in his life. And then you have your safeties
• 28:44
  Speaker 14: downfield just getting trucked left and right, back-to-back runs. Very
• 28:48
  Speaker 14: similar play calls. He's not sure what to do yet
• 28:51
  Speaker 14: because he doesn't have experience in play calling. It's completely
• 28:54
  Speaker 14: different being a cornerbacks coach versus being a defensive coordinator.
• 28:58
  Speaker 14: And now everybody out here who thinks that they can
• 29:00
  Speaker 14: call plays and stuff, we're seeing that it is a
• 29:01
  Speaker 14: lot harder than we think it is. And the biggest
• 29:04
  Speaker 14: thing for Deron Bland and the biggest gripe that I
• 29:06
  Speaker 14: had with Jerry was I think Deron Bland needed Sal Harris.
• 29:12
  Speaker 14: I think that he should have been that defensive coordinator
• 29:15
  Speaker 14: if you were going to promote from within that next year.
• 29:17
  Speaker 14: But with that, I'll hang up and listen.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that wasn't going to happen. Al Harris made sure
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: that that wasn't going to happen. And I think he's
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: a good DBs coach, but I think just some of
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: the way that that season went down and some of
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: the things behind the scene, I don't think that they
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: ended on the right– with the right vibes there. So, um, but, uh,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: you know, as for some of the other stuff, yeah,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, I, I, it, anytime a running back that
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: goes 65 yards, 70 yards or whatever, uh, starts running
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: the ball like that. I mean, like there's, there's some,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: there's some issues there. It's not just mistackling. There's a
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: lot more than that. Um, I thought the fourth down
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: stop that they actually had, I thought that was a
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: bad formation from the start. They switched out. And on
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: third and one, they threw it. And on fourth and one,
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: they went to basically a nickel look with safeties and
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: basically like a dime look there at the goal line.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: And they ran the ball. Great job by Caleb Downs
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: making the tackle. But, I mean, it was– he had
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: to make it. If he doesn't, you know, they didn't
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: have a goal line defense on there. So, I thought
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: they basically invited Arizona to run. Did it work? It worked.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think you're going to make a living making
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: goal line stops from Caleb Downs. I really don't think
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: that that's going to happen. But, anyways, a lot to
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: unpack there. I think a lot of that getting some–
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: just wanting to vent, so– He did that.
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: Cool.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Arthur in Spring, Texas. Arthur,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: are you there?
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: Hey, Arthur.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Hello, Nick.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: How are you doing? Good.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: How are you?
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: I'm doing just fine. Immediately after the game, I got
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: over the shock of what happened. So I'm good with that.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: Here's an absolute about the Cowboys. Jerry Jones is on
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: a general manager. Nothing's going to change that. Okay. Everything
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: else is a variable after that. I think that in
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: a lot of respects, we as Cowboys fans get disillusioned sometimes.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: I'm going to use Christian Parker for example. In all honesty,
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: I didn't expect him to come in and set the
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: world on its heels. I really didn't. This is a
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: first-time D.C., gathering his staff together, bringing in all these
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: new players, and then dealing with veterans that you really,
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: you know, you may have had some interaction with, but
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: not as much as if you had been with the
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: team for four, five, six years. So I think that
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: from that perspective, you've got to give them a chance.
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: As far as What Jerry has done financially to get
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: the people in that this team needs, I can't fault
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: him on anything. I think that really and truly he's
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: opened his wallet and done what needed to be done,
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: following whatever his coaching staff wants. I think that we're
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: going to have to give the opportunity to play out.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: you're not going to get another coaching staff in there
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: or a new head coach, and it's going to change magically.
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: It's just not going to happen. So it's kind of
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: like the surfing thing. You ride the wave out, reevaluate
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: at the end of the season, make changes if you
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: think you need to. But I really think that it's
• 33:10
  Speaker 5: going to take at least a couple of years to
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: get this thing in the position where we will be
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: a contending team into and through the playoffs. That's all
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: I have to say.
• 33:23
  Speaker 10: All right.
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Thanks for the call, Arthur. I don't know if I disagree.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: I don't disagree that it's going to take some time.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: I don't think this coaching staff has that long, though.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: It won't be them for a couple of years. I
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: really don't. I don't think that that will be the case.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: I think that, you know, I think Jerry looks at
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: it like, We did a lot more than we've done
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: in the past when it comes to trades the last
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: few years and when it comes to the way they've
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: drafted and just the way that they've added some pieces
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: and spent some money, a little bit different from their standpoint.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: And so I think that being said, I don't think
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: that they're going to give this coaching staff that long
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: for that to develop. All right, Michael in Bowling Green
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: is next.
• 34:22
  Speaker 10: What's up, Nick?
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: Hey.
• 34:24
  Speaker 10: All right, man, I've had a little bit of time
• 34:26
  Speaker 10: to think about this stuff, and I want to ask
• 34:29
  Speaker 10: you your opinion about something. I don't know. I'm not, like,
• 34:34
  Speaker 10: just going off the deep end about it. I believe
• 34:39
  Speaker 10: my opinion. I know we've got salary cap issues with this,
• 34:44
  Speaker 10: and I believe they should call DACA in. They should
• 34:48
  Speaker 10: be like, look, you've been here 10 years. You know,
• 34:51
  Speaker 10: I mean, Dak wanted Shoddy, and it's not really working
• 34:54
  Speaker 10: that well. I think they should ask Dak, hey, wave
• 34:58
  Speaker 10: your no trade. We're going to trade you to a
• 35:01
  Speaker 10: team you want to go to. We're going to get
• 35:03
  Speaker 10: rid of Pickens. You know, we're going to pick up
• 35:06
  Speaker 10: some players and get rid of them. I think they should,
• 35:10
  Speaker 10: you know, they don't want to get rid of the
• 35:12
  Speaker 10: coaching staff this season. I think they should do something different.
• 35:16
  Speaker 10: New quarterback, new a lot of different things. Maybe bringing
• 35:22
  Speaker 10: in Pollard, Williams here and there. But what do you
• 35:27
  Speaker 10: think of that? Do you think that's something they need
• 35:29
  Speaker 10: to just, like, blow up kind of and start fresh?
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: No.
• 35:37
  Speaker 10: Just your opinion. I'm not saying they should.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, if you blow that up, So when
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: do you want them to start turning it around? It
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: won't be next year. It won't be the year after that.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Because of, you know... I'm sorry. I'm trying to look
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: up something for you real quick. But yeah, I mean,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: I don't... Honestly, it's going to cost you a lot.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: It's going to cost you a lot to have Dak
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: off the roster. So that doesn't just... You blow it up,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: that's fine, but it's going to take a couple of years.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: You're going to play a quarterback with young quarterbacks. Not
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: everybody gets a Brock Purdy, and not everybody develops a
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: guy like that. So getting young, cheap quarterbacks typically doesn't
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: help you either. So I don't like that idea, to
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: be honest with you. I don't like that you're trading
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: that up. Now, Pickens' situation... You said Dak and Pickens.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's definitely just fireworks right there. But Pickens,
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think you'd probably answer the call.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: You're going to answer the call and you're going to– somebody–
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Somebody calls about Pickens, I think you're going to answer
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: and you're going to talk about it and see. You
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: have to. You have to look forward and go, what
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: are you going to do? Are you going to let
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: this thing play out and then you're going to get
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: more on the table at the end of the season?
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: So it looks like right now the Cowboys are not
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: interested in being sellers, but I think you would always,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: for the right price, you'd listen to anything, right?
• 37:24
  Speaker 10: Yeah, because I'm not sure what we're doing. I mean,
• 37:26
  Speaker 10: Brian in Kansas City, he texted me this morning, he's like, hey,
• 37:29
  Speaker 10: I'm getting the Cowboys-Colts game. I'm like, oh, yeah, I
• 37:33
  Speaker 10: am too. I'm like, what are we going to get?
• 37:36
  Speaker 10: I mean, I had high hopes for that Cardinals game,
• 37:40
  Speaker 10: and just watching, I don't, I mean, I'm not smart enough.
• 37:46
  Speaker 10: I mean, I like watching football, but, you know, I
• 37:50
  Speaker 10: can't pinpoint, you know, what happened. I mean, that was just.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: God-awful, but....
• 37:59
  Speaker 10: I mean, statistically, it's the sixth worst ending in NFL
• 38:06
  Speaker 10: football history. And I'm not sure exactly what that– but
• 38:11
  Speaker 10: as far as losing in the fashion they did, it's
• 38:14
  Speaker 10: supposed to be the sixth worst in all of NFL history.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know about that. I mean– It was bad,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: but I mean, I don't know. Yeah, that depends on
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: your perspective there. Okay. Thanks for the call, Mike.
• 38:32
  Speaker 10: I appreciate that.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: You know, the thing about it is that getting rid
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: of Dak, like, you're going to have about $ 86 million
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: in dead space. You know, and he's going to count
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: $ 86 million on the cap if you did it, like,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: right now and traded him. Even if you did it
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: after the season, and you could do a June 1.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: You could take 31 of it this year, and then
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: the rest of that was at 55 or so would
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: be the next year. So it looks like about $ 86
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: million on your cap just for a player that's not there.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: And now you've got to get a quarterback too. So
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: that would not be my direction. I mean, I think
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: you continue to go this route. But because I don't
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: see Dak being the major problem here. I mean, we've
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: seen them win some games, be a good team with him.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: So that's not what I consider to be the issue
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: on this team. And they've got a lot of pieces
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: around him that are good too. But that wouldn't be
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: my spot there. All right, let's go to break here
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• 41:12
  Speaker 7: Hey nick how's it going good how are you Feeling
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: much better today. Feeling much better today. As far as
• 41:20
  Speaker 7: Dak goes, we're hitched to him until 2028. Too much
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: dead cap space to move on from him right now.
• 41:27
  Speaker 7: Like I mentioned yesterday, I would 100% take calls for GP.
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: We could use the extra draft capital for next year.
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: And as far as his usage and what we're using
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: him right now, I would 100% take the calls today.
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: on him. But Dak, we can't go anywhere right now
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: with Dak. He's on the roster for at least 2028.
• 41:46
  Speaker 7: I want to go positive a little bit. So rewatching
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: the game, I want to give a shout out to
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: that tight end we brought up from the practice squad, Mitchell,
• 41:54
  Speaker 7: recovering that fumble in the end zone, a hustle play.
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: I watched him again. I thought he played pretty good.
• 42:00
  Speaker 7: So I want to give him a shout out for
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: coming up and stepping up when Fergie went down with
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: that ankle injury. My one question to you, is what's
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: concerning to me is when they said Schoonmaker wasn't going
• 42:13
  Speaker 7: to play, you got Michael Trigg down there, and he's
• 42:16
  Speaker 7: not even active. They don't even bring him up. So
• 42:18
  Speaker 7: that's kind of concerning for me. What do you think
• 42:20
  Speaker 7: is going on with Michael Trigg? Because that's his one
• 42:23
  Speaker 7: real opportunity, I think, to have a shot to get
• 42:25
  Speaker 7: in that game on Sunday, and they didn't even activate him.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Not ready. I mean, if.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Trust me, if Lunda Wells thought he was ready to play,
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: he'd be ready. I mean, he's just not. He's got
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: some potential, but I think he needs to be on
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: the practice squad and continue that right now. Now, I'll
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: say this. Not every practice squad player travels. He does,
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: or at least he has, the last few weeks. So,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: you know, sometimes you bring these guys in in case
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: you might– need to sign him to the roster if
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: something happens last second. Because you can always do that.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: You can always add the guy to your team and
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: he can play. You can't elevate them past a certain deadline.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: But he travels for a reason and they're trying to
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: develop him and all that stuff. But I thought that
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: they felt like Mitchell was a better option to go
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: in and play in the game. And he did a
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: nice job of getting that fumble. I think Mitchell, he's
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: not he's not the most, you know, complete blocker in
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: the world either. So that, you know, there's, there's issues
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: there and all of, all of the tight ends have something,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean? There's no perfect tight end there.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: It does look like Ferguson has a shot to play
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: though this week. And I was a little surprised by
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: that because usually when the guy gets an ankle injury
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: that early in the game and then they rule them out, like, okay,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: well he's, he's not coming back. um, next week either,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: you know, but sounds like the, the, the test came
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: back positive for him, um, and for the team. And
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: so there's a shot, we'll see how he practices if
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: he practices later this week. So, um, but yeah, I,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: the pickings part, um, you know, I, I, again, I,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: if they're going to, if they're going to try to
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: push this thing forward and get better and go for it,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: you know, I mean, cause they, you know, it doesn't
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: really help them to, tank anything. Um, cause of the
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: draft pick situation that they don't, they're not tied to
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: their own draft pick. They're tied right at this point to,
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: to green base, um, pick. So, you know, and they
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: don't look like they're, they're going in direction you want
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: them to. Um, so for pickings, I think you'd have
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: to decide, you know, does it make sense now? Do
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: you think that he can have a better season and,
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: and maybe up his value next year? I don't see
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: him coming back next year but who knows I mean
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: at this point you never really know um but Jerry
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: Jones did say today on on his radio call that
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: he's got to get the football more they're gonna have
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: to get him the ball more um so I look
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: at that and say okay next game he's gonna get
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: a lot of targets this fine but what happens the
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: next game what happens when it's not going well If
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: you sit down, shoddy, like you say, I'll sit him
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: down and tell him, throw the ball to Pickens. Just
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: like they said two weeks ago, run the ball. That's
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: great for the next game, but what about the next one,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: the Arizona game, when they're not running the ball and
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: they continue to run, run? So, yeah, they can force
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: feed the ball to Pickens, but if it's not working,
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: are you going to continue to do that? We saw
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: that back in 2017 with Dak and Dez. Dez was
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: wanting the ball all the time. Dak was throwing it
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: to him, and that wasn't necessarily the best option. All right,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: let's go to Mike in Birmingham, England.
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: Mike.
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: Greetings from England, Nick.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: How are you doing?
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: Good.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: What's up?
• 45:44
  Speaker 8: Good, good, good.
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: Apologies if I haven't been able to listen to the show,
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: so apologies if I'm going over any ground that anyone's covered.
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: I just wanted to talk about the coaching situation, which
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: I know is not one of your favourite topics to
• 45:59
  Speaker 6: talk about because we're talking about guys that are in
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: a job, and I know that you're very respectful of that,
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: and I want to be as well. After the game
• 46:08
  Speaker 6: on Sunday... Dylan, well, there was the usual kind of
• 46:14
  Speaker 6: Twitter reaction, as you might imagine, fire everyone and so on.
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: And Dylan put out a very thoughtful tweet saying that,
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: you know, whether you think that the head coach should
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: go or not, there's no point doing it in the
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: middle of the season. And Twitter reacted in its usual
• 46:33
  Speaker 6: calm and measured way and Dylan got a bit of
• 46:35
  Speaker 6: a pasting there, bless him. But I decided to give
• 46:40
  Speaker 6: myself a bit of time because there's something that you've
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: said in the past that was on my mind when
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: we were debating on this show whether to move on
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: from Mike McCarthy or not. And something that you kept saying,
• 46:55
  Speaker 6: which is absolutely right, is that... When you change your
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: head coach in the summer, in the off-season, the following
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: season is very rarely a great season. So I think
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: the calculations for Mr Jones and co. is, well, first
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: of all, do we see Brian Schottenheimer being the guy
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: for next season? In which case, OK, fair enough. Well,
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: there's no point even talking about timing of moving on because.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: We're not going to.
• 47:28
  Speaker 6: If Mr Jones is starting to have those doubts, the
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: next question is, is the next guy out there and available?
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: Or is it someone that we would have to wait
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: until the off-season for? Because if there's someone out there
• 47:41
  Speaker 6: and available, then my argument might be that it would
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: make sense to make a change now because then they've
• 47:50
  Speaker 6: got time to do the work, to work with the team,
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: to start implementing so that I think next year can
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: be a positive season because the timeline that Dak is
• 48:01
  Speaker 6: on with his career and his age and contract and
• 48:05
  Speaker 6: so on, we are in a potentially limited window, I think.
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: So I just think very reluctantly it is something that
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: does need to be thought about. And if you'd rather
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: not comment on that, then I respect that, but I
• 48:22
  Speaker 6: just wanted to kind of put that view out. Okay,
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: thanks very much, Nick.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, thanks for the call, Mike. Look, out of time
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: for the show. No, I'm kidding. The thing about it
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: is for the ones that are trying to win this year,
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: and that's most of you guys. Let's go. Still hope.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: The Giants aren't very good. and keep going forward, keep
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: going forward, and see what happens. You might sneak into
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: the playoffs. That's real, and that's probably going to be
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: the reason why the Cowboys could kind of stay in
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: this thing for a while. It also might be the
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: reason for those that are like, you know what, I
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: hope that Jerry does make a move, because then you
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: can go and you'll have a head start on some
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: of these other coaches that are maybe available.
• 49:11
  Speaker 8: So.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Those things might actually kind of affect each other a
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: little bit, you know, because if you're still in it mathematically,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: or still, you know, not that far away from things,
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: you gotta, you gotta get this and this to happen.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Then making a change and blowing it up and all
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: that's probably not, not going to happen. So that's why
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: I think this thing's going to be tricky on how,
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: how it goes out. Now, If they can start winning
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: some games here and start beating some teams you're supposed
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: to beat, maybe sneak in a win or two, then
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: I don't think we'd be talking about all of that.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: But I will say this. If it does get to
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: a situation where Jerry's probably thinking maybe to make a move,
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: their record in the standings and all of that is
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: going to kind of factor into it. But then again,
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: he let a guy go after two seasons that made
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: the playoffs both years, Chan Gailey. Now he's said that
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: he's regretted that move, but he has done that. So
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: we'll see. I mean, you don't need to be sitting
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: here talking about all of that right now because, you know,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: they've got a game to go out and win. And
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: like I said, they've had three close games this year.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: They've lost two of them, won one. They've got to
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: figure out into the half stuff too. Into the half
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: has been, I think, a problem. And that affects some
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: of these other games. Just because it didn't go down
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: at the end doesn't mean there weren't a play or
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: two early on that didn't affect the game. I think
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: that they have had some struggles with end of the half,
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: end of regulation, and that's kind of one of the
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: reasons why they're sitting here at 3-5. But still, eight down,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: nine to go. A lot can happen, but you've got
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: to start stacking wins, and they had a chance to
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: do that, and they certainly let it go. Let's talk
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: about it again tomorrow. So for Chris Beam, I'm Nick Heap,
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: and see you tomorrow on Cowboy Storylines.
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