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- 0:02Speaker 1: On scoring leads Ostrodia.
- 0:05Speaker 2: This is the Wider Panalty Show. Good evening and welcome
- 0:10Speaker 2: to the readA Panety show. Coming up tonight the election
- 0:13Speaker 2: post mortem and the crucial leadership decision facing the Liberal Party.
- 0:17Speaker 2: The panel will join me shortly. The Greens decimated while
- 0:21Speaker 2: the Tills have plenty of seats but zero power after
- 0:24Speaker 2: Labour's dumping majority. Professor Employment joins me shortly to discuss
- 0:29Speaker 2: what we can expect from a second term Albanese government.
- 0:32Speaker 2: President Donald Trump's borders are threatens to arrest leaders of
- 0:36Speaker 2: sanctuary cities. Army Horowitz will be here to cover the
- 0:39Speaker 2: latest from the US, and later in the hour, Kinsey
- 0:43Speaker 2: Schofield on why King Charles refuses to speak to Prince
- 0:47Speaker 2: Harry and Left is losing It has plenty of fun
- 0:50Speaker 2: and frivolity, as well as this anti milk lunacy from Berlin.
- 1:02Speaker 3: Business.
- 1:03Speaker 2: But first, joining me now for a post mortem of
- 1:06Speaker 2: the political blood bath we saw play out over the weekend.
- 1:09Speaker 2: Our Sky and News contributors prim McSween and Tina McQueen. Ladies.
- 1:13Speaker 2: We will get to the election results shortly, but let's
- 1:16Speaker 2: start with the Liberals searching for a new leader. After
- 1:19Speaker 2: Peter Dutton lost his own seat. That are reports the
- 1:23Speaker 2: coalition is exploring a potential unity ticket consisting of Shadow
- 1:27Speaker 2: Treasurer Angus Taylor as leader and Shadow Immigration mister Dan
- 1:31Speaker 2: Tin as his deputy. Flinder's MP Zoe Mackenzie would be
- 1:35Speaker 2: elevated to Manager of Opposition Business. Who is your pick
- 1:40Speaker 2: to rebuild the Liberal brand?
- 1:42Speaker 4: I think whoever the small party room decide on now
- 1:47Speaker 4: will not lead into.
- 1:48Speaker 2: The next election.
- 1:49Speaker 4: So I would say possibly Angus Taylor will probably have
- 1:52Speaker 4: the numbers to be leader when they resume, but I
- 1:56Speaker 4: really don't feel he will lead the team into the election.
- 2:01Speaker 4: I mean, it's sad to say, but slim pickings for
- 2:04Speaker 4: us in the party. But there also may be some
- 2:08Speaker 4: people to unexpected entries into the field last minute. I
- 2:12Speaker 4: can't confirm that now, but I am hearing a couple
- 2:14Speaker 4: of other names that may throw the hat in the ring.
- 2:17Speaker 4: But it's such a dismal, dismal thing to do to
- 2:21Speaker 4: try and elect Lena when so many have been wiped out.
- 2:24Speaker 2: It's heartbreaking. Well, it's going to be a long tough
- 2:29Speaker 2: road through to the next election and be in a
- 2:34Speaker 2: position to actually form a government. It seems like a
- 2:38Speaker 2: lot of the talent for the Liberal Party is in
- 2:40Speaker 2: the upper house, in the Senate and the lower house.
- 2:44Speaker 2: It is slim.
- 2:45Speaker 5: Pickings absolutely, and you know, whoever really does go in now,
- 2:50Speaker 5: I believe is a seat warmer. Things are going to
- 2:55Speaker 5: change in six years because frankly.
- 2:57Speaker 2: I think that Albaneze is going to be in for
- 2:59Speaker 2: it le six years.
- 3:01Speaker 5: But in this first term they're going to be irrelevant really,
- 3:06Speaker 5: so I don't think that Hangus Taylor is really up
- 3:09Speaker 5: for the job in the longer term. To me, it's
- 3:12Speaker 5: almost irrelevant who goes in there. I would you hear
- 3:17Speaker 5: of people like alexanderik If, but of course he's in
- 3:20Speaker 5: the wrong house. You look at Ted O'Brien, I think
- 3:23Speaker 5: he's a really strong performer if given what he did
- 3:27Speaker 5: during the energy debate, and I would like to see
- 3:32Speaker 5: Ted O'Brien Hasty Duo in the second term of Albanese's
- 3:38Speaker 5: government and to take it up to him then.
- 3:43Speaker 2: Well, I said on Outsiders yesterday that Hasty for me
- 3:46Speaker 2: is the clear choice. Now he actually has to put
- 3:50Speaker 2: his hat into the ring to make that happen. But
- 3:53Speaker 2: he's young, he is principled. There is just an X
- 3:57Speaker 2: factor about him. He's got charisma, got an incredible history
- 4:02Speaker 2: before he entered politics. There's just so much going for him.
- 4:06Speaker 2: Being from Wa isn't seen as helpful, but I think
- 4:09Speaker 2: in this day and age it shouldn't stop someone from
- 4:12Speaker 2: being elevated to leader. We'll see what happens there. Now
- 4:16Speaker 2: let's turn our attention to what went wrong for the Liberals,
- 4:19Speaker 2: and we've seen contrasting reports in the media today. We've
- 4:22Speaker 2: got Jeff Chambers and Greg Brown writing in The Australian
- 4:26Speaker 2: that Peter Dutton and his team went into the campaign
- 4:28Speaker 2: with a and I quote fatal over confidence that were
- 4:32Speaker 2: void by the coalition's resurgence following the Indigenous Voice referendum
- 4:37Speaker 2: and the labor mistakes and immigration and the number of
- 4:41Speaker 2: political scandals. But we've got James Campbell writing in The
- 4:45Speaker 2: Herald Son that Dutton's campaign deliberately shielded the leader from
- 4:49Speaker 2: key intel, including how dire the polls were in his
- 4:54Speaker 2: own seat of Dixon, because and I quote here, he
- 4:57Speaker 2: was already a nervous wreck. Prewe we've been saying on
- 5:03Speaker 2: this program for weeks now. Remember the last discussion we
- 5:06Speaker 2: had the three of us was all about just what
- 5:10Speaker 2: a terrible campaign this has been from the Liberals, how
- 5:13Speaker 2: lackluster it has been, how weak, How you know, there's
- 5:17Speaker 2: barely any policy differentiation that you can point to to
- 5:21Speaker 2: encourage voters to throw out a first term government. And
- 5:26Speaker 2: I don't think anyone could be shocked by the result.
- 5:28Speaker 2: But I've got to say I was shocked by Peter
- 5:30Speaker 2: Dutton losing his own seat. Well yes and no.
- 5:34Speaker 5: I mean there were pundits saying that or insider saying
- 5:37Speaker 5: that he was very vulnerable. But Philip Koury in the
- 5:40Speaker 5: AFR was saying, you know, there's going to be a
- 5:43Speaker 5: lot of soul searching for the Liberal Party, but it
- 5:46Speaker 5: has no soul. And I think that's the problem that
- 5:50Speaker 5: when you look at the whole executive, the operational procedures,
- 5:56Speaker 5: the fact that really it needs a toe to rebrand,
- 6:01Speaker 5: a revisit to its operational side. The people on the
- 6:05Speaker 5: ground are non existent. There are no supporters that are
- 6:09Speaker 5: there or likely successes to help.
- 6:13Speaker 2: I just think that they have.
- 6:14Speaker 5: To go back to tours and look at what you
- 6:18Speaker 5: do in any campaign. When I do strategies for clients
- 6:21Speaker 5: and you have to look at your operational structure, you
- 6:24Speaker 5: then have to set your policies that you want to
- 6:28Speaker 5: achieve and then you prosecute them. You think about who
- 6:32Speaker 5: your targets are and prosecute them. And the Liberal Party
- 6:35Speaker 5: hasn't done that. I don't know what they did for
- 6:37Speaker 5: three years. They sat on their hands and didn't come
- 6:41Speaker 5: up with any custard or thought through policy.
- 6:44Speaker 4: I'll call out now and Andrew Hurst should have resigned
- 6:47Speaker 4: by now. The President John Olson should be gone, the
- 6:49Speaker 4: rest of that executive be gone.
- 6:51Speaker 2: Paul Dutton was given.
- 6:52Speaker 4: Private polling which was absolute bers.
- 6:56Speaker 2: So he was behind the eight ball along.
- 6:59Speaker 4: I am libert and these guys should have gone yesterday,
- 7:02Speaker 4: not today. Should have gone yesterday. You've got an eighty
- 7:04Speaker 4: year old president that's been there for quite a while.
- 7:07Speaker 4: Go move on, John and rehearse.
- 7:10Speaker 2: You're weak, you're a coward. You should have gone too.
- 7:13Speaker 2: So that's how angry I am Rita Well, Tina, is
- 7:18Speaker 2: that why the policy platform was so weak. I just
- 7:23Speaker 2: could not understand the strategy. They were almost operating from
- 7:29Speaker 2: the view that they were well in front and they
- 7:32Speaker 2: didn't want to have any big missteps, so they were
- 7:33Speaker 2: going to do a small target strategy. When you've got
- 7:37Speaker 2: a first term government and if you want to get
- 7:39Speaker 2: rid of a first term government, you better go hard,
- 7:41Speaker 2: you better go negative. You better have very clear policy
- 7:45Speaker 2: differentiation on big issues, and we didn't have that. If I,
- 7:50Speaker 2: as a conservative, have trouble understanding what the hell they're
- 7:54Speaker 2: up to and what they're proposing, how's the average person,
- 7:58Speaker 2: who may be a political or not that politically engage,
- 8:01Speaker 2: going to say I'm going to back this lot over
- 8:04Speaker 2: a first term government. That's right.
- 8:06Speaker 4: Look, having said on federal executive for a number of years,
- 8:10Speaker 4: you know they have a lot to say in the policy,
- 8:12Speaker 4: the advertising, everything, And I can tell you out of
- 8:15Speaker 4: that entire federal executive there's probably two conservative and there
- 8:18Speaker 4: in lies the problem. You know, there are no conviction
- 8:23Speaker 4: executives on that committee. And that's where we went That's
- 8:26Speaker 4: where we went wrong, and that's where Peter had no support.
- 8:28Speaker 4: It would have been their advice to muzzle all the
- 8:30Speaker 4: good performers and just make it about Peter, which was
- 8:32Speaker 4: absolutely stupid.
- 8:35Speaker 2: Idea.
- 8:36Speaker 5: I'm a strong leader, weren't we We wanted somebody who
- 8:40Speaker 5: would lead and prosecute a case against this disgraceful government.
- 8:46Speaker 2: And to back your policies, to give the people a
- 8:49Speaker 2: clear choice, and not to be so worried about appeasing
- 8:53Speaker 2: your opponents, appeasing the media, worried about media backlashes. I
- 8:58Speaker 2: just can't believe they're still operating in that environment where
- 9:00Speaker 2: they're trying to minimize the media backlash rather than take
- 9:05Speaker 2: a bold position and unapologetically prosecute the case like they
- 9:10Speaker 2: did with the Voice. Everyone attacked them for their Voice
- 9:13Speaker 2: position when they eventually took one after ten months, but
- 9:17Speaker 2: it worked because it gave the Australian people a clear choice. Now,
- 9:21Speaker 2: as we know, there are many people who are using
- 9:24Speaker 2: the election result to push their own political barrows. The
- 9:29Speaker 2: Liberals are quite susceptible to accepting the worst advice post election,
- 9:34Speaker 2: and I want to bring your attention a piece in
- 9:36Speaker 2: the Daily Telegraph that claimed that Peter Dutton's toxic immigration policies,
- 9:41Speaker 2: which were very minor cuts to immigration, cost him dearly
- 9:45Speaker 2: and the Liberals should shy away from proposing migration cuts
- 9:48Speaker 2: in the future. I mean, this is just Bonker's stuff.
- 9:51Speaker 2: Every pole we see shows that the majority want to
- 9:54Speaker 2: see significant cuts to immigration, or at least cuts to
- 9:59Speaker 2: what we see the moment. And on election night I
- 10:02Speaker 2: was watching the ABC so nobody else had to. It
- 10:05Speaker 2: was taking one for the team. They were obsessed about
- 10:08Speaker 2: the final week of the election, campaigned a discussion around
- 10:12Speaker 2: welcome to country and acknowledgment of country, and they were
- 10:16Speaker 2: acting like that was a huge factor in the election result,
- 10:19Speaker 2: again ignoring the fact that all the polling shows those
- 10:23Speaker 2: ceremonies are not popular with the Australian people. Tina, what
- 10:28Speaker 2: is the danger of the higher ups within the Liberals,
- 10:32Speaker 2: the authorities within the Liberals listening to this very poor
- 10:36Speaker 2: advice and veering further left and again becoming labor lighte.
- 10:41Speaker 2: The Liberals don't win when they're labor lighte. We've seen
- 10:44Speaker 2: that in Wa, we've seen that in Victoria, and yet
- 10:47Speaker 2: this is what's been proposed federally. Oh, it's just crazy.
- 10:51Speaker 4: You know, when Dunton and we were all on that
- 10:55Speaker 4: Trump train, which I'm still on, if we had a
- 10:58Speaker 4: stood firm by that, but that, as I said, the
- 11:01Speaker 4: federal executive got spooked by the or we can't upset
- 11:04Speaker 4: the immigration, you know, we can't say anything bad about
- 11:08Speaker 4: working the country. All this is ridiculous. They were spooked,
- 11:12Speaker 4: absolutely spooked. Instead of going harder and standing firm on
- 11:16Speaker 4: those bold policies that the people respect. They backed off
- 11:20Speaker 4: them and that's where people lost respect for Dutton and
- 11:23Speaker 4: became very confused as to what his policies were. It's
- 11:27Speaker 4: just a shame that he was hijacked by that executive
- 11:30Speaker 4: and the left of the party and to taming things down.
- 11:34Speaker 4: It was ridiculous and that's why we've got the result.
- 11:36Speaker 2: We have pro if there was a landslide loss. But
- 11:42Speaker 2: he at least took a policy platform to the election
- 11:46Speaker 2: that was principled and strong and gave the Australian people
- 11:49Speaker 2: a clear choice. You could copy that. But the weakness
- 11:53Speaker 2: of the of the policy platform, the entire strategy being
- 11:57Speaker 2: so flawed. I think that's what stings for a lot
- 12:00Speaker 2: of Liberals is that you lost in a landslide and
- 12:04Speaker 2: he didn't really even turn up to the fight.
- 12:07Speaker 6: That's right.
- 12:07Speaker 5: You know, they've betrayed Conservative voters because they abandoned the
- 12:13Speaker 5: policies that would give us an excuse, a reason to
- 12:17Speaker 5: vote for them. They hadn't thought through the policies. They
- 12:20Speaker 5: got gutless. They got me too.
- 12:24Speaker 2: I mean, you don't win an.
- 12:25Speaker 5: Election by following what Dick was dictated by your opposition,
- 12:30Speaker 5: you know, because they didn't have well thought out, well
- 12:33Speaker 5: structured policies. They'd forgotten who they were talking to, who
- 12:37Speaker 5: their base is.
- 12:39Speaker 2: They abandoned all of that.
- 12:40Speaker 5: And you know, this is why we're all out in
- 12:43Speaker 5: the wilderness because and dismayed, because we were let down
- 12:47Speaker 5: badly by a supposedly conservative government that got spooped by
- 12:53Speaker 5: a bullying egomaniac who was the better retail politician.
- 12:59Speaker 2: And this is how gullible that the.
- 13:02Speaker 5: Voters are that they look. You know, we saw that
- 13:05Speaker 5: the job that was done to make Anthony Albanezi look
- 13:08Speaker 5: more palatable when he.
- 13:09Speaker 2: Got his new teeth, new guys's new wardrobe.
- 13:11Speaker 5: And then you look at Peter Dutton, who the poor
- 13:14Speaker 5: bugger was voldemorted, you know, but the man was still
- 13:20Speaker 5: deserved to be listened to, because if he'd been principled
- 13:23Speaker 5: and allowed to save what he really believed, I think
- 13:27Speaker 5: that passion would have come through prove it would have believed.
- 13:29Speaker 2: It was done by himself with no support team.
- 13:32Speaker 4: So all Labor had to do was demonized the man,
- 13:35Speaker 4: which they did. Dutton had no soldiers, there were no
- 13:39Speaker 4: Pratorian guards around him, which Labor admit that they had
- 13:42Speaker 4: great Batrurian guards. So yeah, look, there's so much to unpack.
- 13:46Speaker 4: But it's just a shame because Duttony is a very
- 13:49Speaker 4: very decent, decent man. I can assure you an absolutely
- 13:53Speaker 4: decent man, and perhaps too decent for politics.
- 13:58Speaker 2: And I think his own political insights things are sound.
- 14:01Speaker 2: But he, like you said, has been led astray by
- 14:06Speaker 2: people within the party who set the policy agenda. And
- 14:11Speaker 2: here we are, and you're right. Some of the strong performance,
- 14:15Speaker 2: Hasty Price, where were they? We barely saw any of
- 14:17Speaker 2: them and when they did speak it was like they
- 14:20Speaker 2: were scared of hearing from them. Now, the election did
- 14:24Speaker 2: see violent at versts, at polling booths. There was a
- 14:28Speaker 2: number of incidents. I'm just going to play one here.
- 14:30Speaker 2: It's a trumpet of patriots volunteer getting physically assaulted in
- 14:36Speaker 2: a booth in Pakenham.
- 14:41Speaker 1: H cut it out, you have cut it out.
- 14:45Speaker 7: Yeah, we were built on bunticulturalism.
- 14:48Speaker 1: Yeah, these ads on who what Australia is about? What
- 14:52Speaker 1: you're doing to you?
- 14:55Speaker 8: And I will see you go ahead, because I've got
- 14:58Speaker 8: all these witnesses.
- 14:59Speaker 2: I've got you on of what you did? You struck first?
- 15:03Speaker 1: Someone, Can we have some police here, please, Tina.
- 15:07Speaker 2: The nerve there. First he launches into that attack and
- 15:11Speaker 2: then says, I'm going to sue you. But before that,
- 15:14Speaker 2: we've got the lecture about how immigrants built the country
- 15:17Speaker 2: and how dare your ads vilify immigrants or whatever the
- 15:20Speaker 2: accusation was. I mean, the the nerve there is astonishing.
- 15:26Speaker 4: Oh look, I hope the police will call and that
- 15:28Speaker 4: guy's been rightly charged. That's terrible to resort to physical
- 15:32Speaker 4: to physical violence like that. But I've got to say
- 15:35Speaker 4: a lot of the booths were hot and heavy around
- 15:38Speaker 4: around the country. And that's another thing. I mean, our
- 15:42Speaker 4: Conservatives vote is split so many ways now with although
- 15:47Speaker 4: Clive Palmon didn't have too much effect, sometimes one or
- 15:50Speaker 4: two percent can really make the difference in a lot
- 15:52Speaker 4: of seats. So you know, maybe we should think of
- 15:55Speaker 4: not splintering these Conservatives groups and all joining together. I mean,
- 15:59Speaker 4: we have to do something otherwise, as Prue said, we're
- 16:02Speaker 4: going to be out of government for quite a while.
- 16:06Speaker 2: Well, the vote has splintered to the right. There's multiple
- 16:09Speaker 2: minor parties now that are on the right, and that
- 16:12Speaker 2: independent vote minor party vote is huge now. So it
- 16:17Speaker 2: definitely there needs to be some sort of a realignment
- 16:20Speaker 2: down the track if the coalition wants to be electable again.
- 16:25Speaker 2: Before we go, let's just have a look at a
- 16:28Speaker 2: silver lining in this election. And I'll be talking to
- 16:30Speaker 2: Professor and Plymer about this a little bit later. But
- 16:33Speaker 2: the Greens they suffered massive electoral losses and thankfully Labor
- 16:38Speaker 2: is not going to be in a coalition with this lot.
- 16:41Speaker 6: God, I'm so angry I could eat a.
- 16:50Speaker 7: Authorized by Jake Still Australian Green's camera.
- 16:53Speaker 2: Yes, so hungry, he could eat a billionaire. Proof that is.
- 16:59Speaker 2: I've got to say sorry.
- 17:02Speaker 4: I was just going to say we can thank Advance
- 17:03Speaker 4: Australia who ran a tremendous campaign against the Greens that
- 17:07Speaker 4: clearly has paid off.
- 17:11Speaker 2: Absolutely. I think they've been very effective. Particularly their social
- 17:14Speaker 2: media work is far more effective than what we saw
- 17:17Speaker 2: from Liberal HQ ladies. Thank you so much for your
- 17:20Speaker 2: time tonight. Joining me now is a Steam geologist and author,
- 17:24Speaker 2: Professor Ian Plymer, a professor. Some of Australia's largest companies,
- 17:28Speaker 2: including Rio Tinto and West Farmers, are calling on Labor
- 17:32Speaker 2: to use its massive election win to boost productivity as
- 17:35Speaker 2: Australia battles its worst productivity slump on record, falling another
- 17:40Speaker 2: one point two percent in the last year, and Donald
- 17:43Speaker 2: Trump's tariffs and a sinking Chinese economy creating further concern
- 17:48Speaker 2: in do you expect to see productivity gains during Albanese's
- 17:53Speaker 2: second term.
- 17:54Speaker 6: I think it's going to be hard because the Australian
- 17:57Speaker 6: Labor Party, is the political wing of the Union, already
- 18:00Speaker 6: got their hand up saying well, we want to screw
- 18:03Speaker 6: employers even more and that's going to mean greater costs
- 18:06Speaker 6: and decreasing productivity. And basically, the productivity is what's going
- 18:12Speaker 6: to pay back the debt that this country's got. And
- 18:14Speaker 6: unless you've got great productivity a lot of people working,
- 18:18Speaker 6: we cannot afford the welfare and we cannot afford the debt.
- 18:22Speaker 6: And this election was basically about those who are producing
- 18:25Speaker 6: and those who want to continue on welfare.
- 18:28Speaker 2: Well, we had very little policy differentiation from the Liberals,
- 18:33Speaker 2: so many of their policies were announced late.
- 18:36Speaker 6: Well, you've been saying that for ages, We've been.
- 18:38Speaker 2: Saying it week in, week out all year, but particularly
- 18:41Speaker 2: since the election was called. It's been enormously frustrating because
- 18:44Speaker 2: it's obvious that they were making massive missteps. If they
- 18:48Speaker 2: were actually interested in winning the election. But it's also
- 18:52Speaker 2: disappointing that Australian corporates, big end of town who are
- 18:57Speaker 2: impacted by productivity losses really didn't get involved in the
- 19:02Speaker 2: election campaign. They're very quick to get involved in social issues,
- 19:06Speaker 2: whether it's same sex marriage, the voice. They're very quick
- 19:09Speaker 2: to get political when it comes to things that actually
- 19:12Speaker 2: don't impact on the running of their business. But when
- 19:15Speaker 2: it's something like this that is crucial to the running
- 19:17Speaker 2: of their business, they haven't really said anything until now.
- 19:20Speaker 6: Well, that's exactly right. They like their field good policies.
- 19:23Speaker 6: Now Freeotinta supports the voice, Shay, what that doesn't change
- 19:28Speaker 6: the price of iron or that doesn't increase the number
- 19:30Speaker 6: of tons of iron or getting exported from the country.
- 19:33Speaker 6: But if they really focus on the important things, and
- 19:36Speaker 6: that's the productivity, then that does enter the bottom line.
- 19:39Speaker 6: So I'm really quite disappointed that Australia has changed from
- 19:44Speaker 6: a country that was built by labor workers in overalls
- 19:48Speaker 6: and now it's being destroyed by labor people in suits.
- 19:53Speaker 6: And the companies used to actually have quite a voice
- 19:57Speaker 6: in the way in which this country produced, the way
- 20:00Speaker 6: which is country stayed solvent, but now we have a
- 20:03Speaker 6: Union government and I can't see that happening, and the.
- 20:06Speaker 2: Unions are going to be very emboldened now. I mean
- 20:09Speaker 2: we've got a thumping Labor majority. The last time around
- 20:13Speaker 2: it was a very small majority and we saw how
- 20:17Speaker 2: they behaved. So now it's going to be I think,
- 20:19Speaker 2: a free for all now. It was also a terrible
- 20:22Speaker 2: nights for the Greens as well as the Liberals. The
- 20:25Speaker 2: Greens were decimated, falling well short of the nine seat
- 20:29Speaker 2: goal that at a Band had set his sights on,
- 20:32Speaker 2: and Band himself is perilously close to losing his own
- 20:35Speaker 2: seat to Labor's Sarah Whitty in We've got to say
- 20:40Speaker 2: the worst case scenario in this election has been avoided.
- 20:43Speaker 2: The worst case was always having a Labor minority government,
- 20:47Speaker 2: having to rely on the Greens in a coalition, having
- 20:50Speaker 2: the Greens holding the balance of power. Now we've got
- 20:55Speaker 2: the Greens really destroyed. Particularly if Banned ends up losing
- 21:00Speaker 2: his own seat, well.
- 21:02Speaker 6: Yes, and that would be sweet justice. And he has
- 21:05Speaker 6: been targeted by some groups like Advance, who very very
- 21:08Speaker 6: successfully targeted the hypocrisy and the anti everything of the Greens.
- 21:16Speaker 6: The Greens wanted to bring us back into caves, and
- 21:18Speaker 6: here we've got people who are living off the fat
- 21:20Speaker 6: of the land and as Greens politicians, and so I
- 21:22Speaker 6: think Advance deserve a lot of credit for attacking the
- 21:25Speaker 6: Greens as they did. It is a lineball with Adam Bant.
- 21:30Speaker 6: I think the preferences were very important, but the postal
- 21:33Speaker 6: and pre poll votes clearly are favoring the Labor Party
- 21:39Speaker 6: rather than the Greens, and I think that would be
- 21:41Speaker 6: a good thing because once the Greens were a party
- 21:44Speaker 6: that were hugging trees. Now they're quite happy to bulldoze trees,
- 21:48Speaker 6: to put up machinery made by slave labor in China,
- 21:51Speaker 6: to give us intermittent power that's sending this country break.
- 21:55Speaker 2: So it's mad.
- 21:56Speaker 6: Maybe there's a god in heaven.
- 21:57Speaker 2: Maybe maybe.
- 22:00Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 22:01Speaker 2: The Greens policies and Advance, I think really should provide
- 22:05Speaker 2: a framework for the Liberal Party on how you tackle
- 22:09Speaker 2: modern politics because you look at what Advance we're doing
- 22:12Speaker 2: on social media compared to what the Liberals were doing.
- 22:16Speaker 2: And again I would have thought they would have learnt
- 22:18Speaker 2: from the Voice campaign, where Advance was so effective with
- 22:22Speaker 2: their campaign material. Now the Greens had a terrible night,
- 22:26Speaker 2: but in contrast, the Tills did pretty well, retaining all
- 22:30Speaker 2: their seats, although Zoe Daniel Seed of Goldstein is on
- 22:34Speaker 2: a razor thin margin less than one hundred votes last
- 22:37Speaker 2: time I checked, so there might be a recount there.
- 22:40Speaker 2: We don't know there, but she has claimed victory for now.
- 22:43Speaker 2: But with all that said that they've retained those seats,
- 22:47Speaker 2: but what little political clout they once had in the
- 22:50Speaker 2: Lake of Labour's thumping majority is gone. Labor Senator Don
- 22:54Speaker 2: Farrell said that the Tills can't blackmail us. Well, they
- 22:59Speaker 2: can't in parliament, but they're superfluous. They're just going to
- 23:02Speaker 2: be sitting around watching Labor past legislation.
- 23:06Speaker 6: Well, that's quite right, and the Teals have no policies.
- 23:10Speaker 6: They voted with the Greens for more than seventy percent
- 23:12Speaker 6: of everything that went up into Parliament and basically they
- 23:16Speaker 6: were an anti Liberal party group. And I'm very pleased
- 23:21Speaker 6: that in the seat of Goldstein you'll vote for the
- 23:23Speaker 6: Teals might have actually had some impact on having Soarry
- 23:26Speaker 6: Daniel re elected. But really they're totally useless as a group.
- 23:33Speaker 6: They are a party, but they're totally useless.
- 23:36Speaker 2: Well they are, but I'll tell you they may be
- 23:40Speaker 2: a silver lining with them as well. I think we'll
- 23:42Speaker 2: discuss that next time because we've run out of time.
- 23:44Speaker 2: Profe Sea employment. Thanks so much for time.
- 23:46Speaker 6: Thank you.
- 23:47Speaker 2: Still to come. Lefties losing it class President Donald Trump's
- 23:51Speaker 2: borders are threatens to arrest leaders of sanctuary cities. Armi
- 23:55Speaker 2: Horowitz has the greatest You're watching the Ruda Panney Show,
- 24:08Speaker 2: and it's time for lefties losing it And she's back,
- 24:12Speaker 2: the cackler in chief, Kamala Harris, the woman who squandered
- 24:15Speaker 2: one point eight billion dollars to lose every swing state,
- 24:18Speaker 2: the electoral college, and the popular vote. Well, she was
- 24:21Speaker 2: back doing what she does best, giggling like a giddy
- 24:24Speaker 2: schoolgirl on prom night.
- 24:26Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I.
- 24:35Speaker 9: Thank you.
- 24:37Speaker 5: Hi Andrew, Hi everyone, thank you all, thank you, thank you.
- 24:45Speaker 2: And Dougie's here too. Dougie's here too. Oh gosh. I
- 24:52Speaker 2: really thought we had been unburdened by what has been,
- 24:55Speaker 2: but here she is again.
- 24:57Speaker 10: Now.
- 24:57Speaker 2: This was her first major speech losing the election in
- 25:01Speaker 2: a landslide, and she chose to speak at an event
- 25:03Speaker 2: run by a mob called Emerge, an activist group that
- 25:07Speaker 2: recruits and trains Democrat women to run for public office.
- 25:11Speaker 2: And despite being VP in the administration that caused unprecedented
- 25:15Speaker 2: damage to the US from the border crisis where they
- 25:18Speaker 2: allowed millions to flooding illegally each year, to presiding over
- 25:21Speaker 2: numerous disastrous policies from Bidenomics to the botch withdrawal from Afghanistan.
- 25:27Speaker 2: Despite all that, Kamala was full of criticism of the
- 25:31Speaker 2: Trump administration, and she told the crowd of lefties losing
- 25:34Speaker 2: it that despite the election result, the country belonged to them.
- 25:39Speaker 8: This country is ours, doesn't allow whoever is in the
- 25:46Speaker 8: White House, it colongs to you.
- 25:50Speaker 2: We love a little stern Kamala, but really that ain't her.
- 25:53Speaker 2: She's the word salad queen. And she delivered another doozy
- 25:58Speaker 2: with this elephant. Yes, elephants, maybe they understand the significance
- 26:03Speaker 2: of the passage of time.
- 26:05Speaker 5: Who saw that video from a couple of weeks ago,
- 26:08Speaker 5: the one of the elephants at the San Diego Zoo
- 26:10Speaker 5: during the earthquake.
- 26:15Speaker 2: Google it if you've not seen it. So that scene
- 26:19Speaker 2: has been on my mind.
- 26:22Speaker 5: Everybody's asking me what you've been thinking about these days?
- 26:28Speaker 2: Just wow, you dodged a bullet America. Though I can
- 26:31Speaker 2: say this about Kamala, the lady can dance. She's got
- 26:35Speaker 2: some moves, and she's learnt some more. It's part of
- 26:39Speaker 2: how she maintains what they say is her black joy.
- 26:43Speaker 2: So how are you in this moment maintaining your black joy?
- 26:49Speaker 10: All right?
- 26:50Speaker 8: Wait one to one.
- 26:52Speaker 2: To one to one, boss, all right, it's a little
- 27:03Speaker 2: wonder The White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt had this
- 27:06Speaker 2: to say about Kamala's big media day.
- 27:10Speaker 7: Just to add on the Kamala Harris point, I think
- 27:11Speaker 7: I speak for everyone at the White House.
- 27:13Speaker 8: We encourage Kamala Harris to continue going out and speaking,
- 27:15Speaker 8: do speaking engagements.
- 27:16Speaker 2: Let's have a little trip to Germany now and see
- 27:19Speaker 2: how the mad Berlinas are protesting against milk. Yes, milk
- 27:25Speaker 2: is apparently inhuman and in humane. Try to see if
- 27:30Speaker 2: you can figure out what's happening here. Let's stay in
- 27:48Speaker 2: Europe and go across to Sweden, the land of the
- 27:51Speaker 2: little doom Goblin. Herself gore to Thunberg, and though she's
- 27:54Speaker 2: moved on to being an anti Israeli activist nowadays, some
- 27:57Speaker 2: of her fellow countrymen are vandalizing to s outlets in
- 28:01Speaker 2: some muder and misguarded protests against what exactly and then
- 28:04Speaker 2: we had this performance at a Tesla dealership in Stockholm.
- 28:43Speaker 2: I think that's all the European tomfoolery I can handle
- 28:45Speaker 2: for one day. Let's go to Harvard. Now, you know,
- 28:48Speaker 2: the once prestigious Ivy League school, the pinnacle of academic excellence.
- 28:53Speaker 2: Let's see what leftism has done to that institution. Yep,
- 29:04Speaker 2: that's a Harvard graduation ceremony, which is producing graduates like this.
- 29:11Speaker 7: In this spirit, we call into space all those who
- 29:13Speaker 7: are not able to be present with us today. The
- 29:16Speaker 7: indigenous people who have been displaced and removed are people
- 29:20Speaker 7: of conscience who are incarcerated and living in exile. Our
- 29:22Speaker 7: north stars. Leonard Peltier, Mumi Abu Jabal, I've thought a
- 29:27Speaker 7: Shakur and every Palestinian prisoner who deserves rest, celebration, and
- 29:33Speaker 7: the community that we have.
- 29:35Speaker 1: The institution's commencement views the paper of a Harvard diploma
- 29:40Speaker 1: as an opening to the gates of enlightenment, but the
- 29:43Speaker 1: People's Commencement.
- 29:45Speaker 7: Understands that it is the spirit of resistance.
- 29:48Speaker 11: As exemplified through the martyrs of Palestine, who like the
- 29:52Speaker 11: path forward for us all.
- 30:02Speaker 2: Let's bring in journalists and filmmaker army Horowit's army. Those
- 30:06Speaker 2: scenes are incredible. Harvard has a problem, but it's hardly
- 30:09Speaker 2: alone in academia and having a significant self inflicted cultural problem.
- 30:17Speaker 1: Now, absolutely not. This is endemic across academia, unfortunately across
- 30:23Speaker 1: the United States. Look, Harvard has been bemoaning the threats
- 30:28Speaker 1: of Trump to cut off funding to the university. Well, guys,
- 30:32Speaker 1: you have a fifty three billion billion with a b
- 30:36Speaker 1: dollar endowment that's bigger than the national currency reserves of Argentina, Finland,
- 30:43Speaker 1: and Ireland combined. Okay, Ultimately, the only thing that will
- 30:48Speaker 1: change the behavior of these institutions is money.
- 30:52Speaker 10: Okay.
- 30:52Speaker 1: I'm a big believer that if look, they're private universities,
- 30:56Speaker 1: they can raise money.
- 30:57Speaker 6: On their own.
- 30:57Speaker 1: They take some cases one thousand dollars per student for tuition.
- 31:02Speaker 1: They can survive on their own. If they want federal funding,
- 31:04Speaker 1: they got to play the game. Okay, that's the way
- 31:07Speaker 1: it works, and money talks. That's what will make them
- 31:10Speaker 1: change their ways. The threat of money.
- 31:12Speaker 9: And you know.
- 31:13Speaker 1: All these rich conservative billionaires who over the years have
- 31:17Speaker 1: given hundreds of millions of dollars per person to have
- 31:21Speaker 1: their name in the school. I blame you, guys. I'm sorry,
- 31:24Speaker 1: this is nothing new. We have known about the cultural
- 31:28Speaker 1: problems of these universities for years. October seventh is nothing new.
- 31:32Speaker 1: Their support of October seventh and Hamas is nothing new.
- 31:35Speaker 1: This has been going on for a year, if not decade,
- 31:38Speaker 1: and you guys and we have been funding it, garbage in,
- 31:41Speaker 1: garbage out. It really starts, frankly, Rita, with the professors.
- 31:45Speaker 1: These professors have been teaching woke ideology, the idea that
- 31:50Speaker 1: colonizers need to be kicked out of every country, that
- 31:52Speaker 1: the United States is the most evil of all the countries,
- 31:55Speaker 1: that Israel evil. For years, Rita, you know I've been
- 31:59Speaker 1: on this show talking about my experiences and colleges around
- 32:03Speaker 1: the country. I would say I take a second seat
- 32:05Speaker 1: to no one on understanding how bad these universities are.
- 32:09Speaker 1: I have got to Yale Yale, where I've hidden cameras
- 32:13Speaker 1: and they were supporting the destruction of the First Amendment.
- 32:18Speaker 1: I've been beaten up on the campus of Keuney University
- 32:21Speaker 1: for raising an American flag. I raised money to murder
- 32:24Speaker 1: Jews at San Francisco State University a few examples. This
- 32:28Speaker 1: cultural rock has been there for decades. It's got to stop.
- 32:34Speaker 2: Now borders. Tom Hoeman was asked about whether leaders of
- 32:38Speaker 2: sanctuary cities who are harboring criminals could be arrested. Now
- 32:42Speaker 2: listen to his answer here.
- 32:44Speaker 12: So the President signing the executive order just this week,
- 32:49Speaker 12: he threatening to defund sanctuary city student policies, why not
- 32:52Speaker 12: just arrest leaders who are harboring and shielding legal aliens
- 32:57Speaker 12: actually terrorists from deportation.
- 33:00Speaker 11: Let's see what's.
- 33:01Speaker 2: Going white and say what's coming? Is that what we're
- 33:05Speaker 2: gonna say next? Because this seems to be the biggest
- 33:09Speaker 2: battleground right now in the US, this deportation policy and
- 33:14Speaker 2: the Democrats resisting it with everything they've got.
- 33:18Speaker 1: I love that guy. Oh my god, he was built
- 33:21Speaker 1: for this job.
- 33:21Speaker 10: Rita.
- 33:22Speaker 1: Okay, look, are we going to see arrest of democratic mayors?
- 33:28Speaker 1: I don't know, although I would say turn about as
- 33:30Speaker 1: fair play, since all the Democrats were on the way
- 33:33Speaker 1: to arrest Donald Trump. So if we didn't go out
- 33:35Speaker 1: to arrest them, I don't know if I would be
- 33:38Speaker 1: crying into my cereal. Okay, but here's what's most likely,
- 33:42Speaker 1: is President Trump. Look, he pushes another another incredible executive order,
- 33:49Speaker 1: saying to these blue states, if you are sanctuary cities.
- 33:53Speaker 1: If you are going against federal mandate right federal policy
- 33:57Speaker 1: and immigration, we are going to withhold funding.
- 34:00Speaker 2: Okay.
- 34:00Speaker 1: Now, he did this actually in his last term, and
- 34:03Speaker 1: it was overturned by a federal District Court judge saying
- 34:07Speaker 1: it was unconstitutional. Now, the legalities are actually very complex.
- 34:10Speaker 1: I read that order, I read his problem with it.
- 34:13Speaker 1: It's not actually clear. It will probably end up going
- 34:15Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court and we'll get more clarity on it.
- 34:17Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't look. It's the domain
- 34:21Speaker 1: of the federal government to enforce its will and its
- 34:25Speaker 1: laws on immigration. That's the way the Constitution is written.
- 34:28Speaker 1: And if you are fighting against that, if you're going
- 34:31Speaker 1: against the will of the federal governor immigration, you are
- 34:34Speaker 1: committing a felony. Just ask Hannah Dugan or Joe Cano
- 34:36Speaker 1: to federal judges who actually try to harbor illegal alias,
- 34:40Speaker 1: what happened to them? They got arrested and legal So
- 34:43Speaker 1: I'm just saying, just be really careful when you're trying
- 34:46Speaker 1: to go up against the federal government.
- 34:47Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying.
- 34:50Speaker 2: Absolutely. But the Democrats have had free ran that have
- 34:53Speaker 2: just been acting out with that fear of consequences. So
- 34:58Speaker 2: it will come as a shock because the law a
- 35:00Speaker 2: fare has gone one way. But if you actually do
- 35:02Speaker 2: break laws, real laws that are on the books, you
- 35:06Speaker 2: can't expect to be above the law. Now, one of
- 35:10Speaker 2: the most underreported stories, I think throughout the Trump administration,
- 35:14Speaker 2: this second term is the number of hostages, the number
- 35:18Speaker 2: of prisoners this administration has brought back. Here's the forty
- 35:23Speaker 2: seventh example. This is Tony Holden, who was working as
- 35:27Speaker 2: a US defense contractor in twenty twenty two when he
- 35:30Speaker 2: was arrested and imprisoned in Qwait's Central Prison on drug charges. Now,
- 35:34Speaker 2: the details of this case are shocking. Army. This man
- 35:38Speaker 2: was threatened, he was tortured, and a judge found that
- 35:41Speaker 2: the case was a sham. This is in Qwait. A
- 35:44Speaker 2: Kuwaiti judge said the officers presented fabricated conversation between themselves
- 35:50Speaker 2: and Tony Holden in English, even though they didn't speak
- 35:53Speaker 2: the language. Holden has expressed his gratitude after being freed
- 35:58Speaker 2: his President.
- 36:00Speaker 3: I want to thank you for well if you've done
- 36:02Speaker 3: for me and my family.
- 36:04Speaker 9: I just mentioned to Adam that I wanted.
- 36:06Speaker 3: You to know everyone on your team, everyone that have
- 36:10Speaker 3: supported this effort that you know that we greatly appreciate it.
- 36:14Speaker 11: Okay, I wanted you to.
- 36:15Speaker 9: Be able to meditate on have you effected personally lives
- 36:20Speaker 9: and the difference if you've made with a six year
- 36:22Speaker 9: old grandfather and father.
- 36:24Speaker 2: I mean, these cases are incredible and they should be
- 36:28Speaker 2: feel good moments for the whole country, regardless of what
- 36:31Speaker 2: side of politics you're on. How are they not getting
- 36:35Speaker 2: media attention?
- 36:39Speaker 1: Look, it is another example of the Trump presidential dividend. Right,
- 36:43Speaker 1: things that we didn't expect that we're getting no forty
- 36:48Speaker 1: cven hostages. That is a lot of people to be freed, Right,
- 36:52Speaker 1: And it took Trump one hundred days what Biden couldn't
- 36:56Speaker 1: do for four years. By these people, and the example
- 37:00Speaker 1: talked about it was an absolutely egregious example of an
- 37:05Speaker 1: American hostage innocently being held by a foreign government. Right,
- 37:10Speaker 1: it was public details about how they railroaded this guy.
- 37:14Speaker 1: Biden was able to do nothing. Look at Harkle's back.
- 37:16Speaker 1: Harkens back to Mark Foebel, Right, the American who's who
- 37:20Speaker 1: is released from from Russia after a year. It took
- 37:25Speaker 1: years for Biden to list him as illegally detained when
- 37:28Speaker 1: it was very clear that's what happened. He was a
- 37:31Speaker 1: hostage in Russia. But he got He got Griner released
- 37:35Speaker 1: with alacrity. Right, there was a problem here. Look, we
- 37:39Speaker 1: had no le We had very little leverage with Russia.
- 37:41Speaker 1: Who kwit. We have a tremendous amount of leverage. She
- 37:44Speaker 1: could have gotten him freed years ago.
- 37:46Speaker 6: Right.
- 37:47Speaker 1: We sell billions of dollars to Kuate every year in
- 37:51Speaker 1: military equipment. We have a ton of leverage with these guys.
- 37:54Speaker 1: Biden would not use it to get this guy free.
- 37:57Speaker 1: I have to wonder why it is so weird. Look,
- 37:59Speaker 1: it's another example or of Trump being president and the
- 38:02Speaker 1: world saying we better get in the same page as president,
- 38:05Speaker 1: otherwise we have a problem.
- 38:09Speaker 2: And we'll be talking about those trade deals in the
- 38:12Speaker 2: coming week's Army because it looks like they're going to
- 38:15Speaker 2: be struck very shortly, and we'll see that political and
- 38:19Speaker 2: economic realignment. Before you go, I want to bring you
- 38:23Speaker 2: this clip from the BBC chairman Samir Shah. He was
- 38:29Speaker 2: being interviewed and it was asked a rather simple question
- 38:31Speaker 2: I would have thought, but watch how he squirms when
- 38:35Speaker 2: he's asked about whether Hermas are terrorists.
- 38:38Speaker 9: One last question just for you as an individual, Samir,
- 38:42Speaker 9: do you consider her mass to be a terrorist group?
- 38:46Speaker 3: I have to answer that in terms of the way
- 38:51Speaker 3: we currently.
- 38:52Speaker 6: What do you think they are?
- 38:54Speaker 9: Do you think they're a convocation with happy little squirrels.
- 38:59Speaker 10: I don't think that.
- 39:00Speaker 3: But but I'm here as a chairman.
- 39:04Speaker 9: Of the bbc'sist us an individual, I can tell you
- 39:10Speaker 9: what I think when I'm smiha right now to the world.
- 39:15Speaker 3: I am the chairman of the BBC, and we have
- 39:17Speaker 3: taken the view as a board that would continue to
- 39:20Speaker 3: use the word terrorists only with attribution.
- 39:23Speaker 2: That's the position we take. Me just incredible, and uh,
- 39:28Speaker 2: you say, the output of the BABYSA and it all
- 39:30Speaker 2: kind of makes sense.
- 39:33Speaker 1: Look, I'm glad it's all coming to light in England,
- 39:36Speaker 1: right and but it's really not getting much tractioned here
- 39:38Speaker 1: in the United States, you know. I find it so
- 39:39Speaker 1: funny with my Democratic friends say to me, Oh my god,
- 39:43Speaker 1: we hate the American media. Oh they're so a feat.
- 39:45Speaker 1: The American media doesn't tell the truth. You don't have
- 39:48Speaker 1: to go to Europe for the real to the outlass
- 39:49Speaker 1: of the BBC. Oh, shut up, Okay, the BBC is
- 39:53Speaker 1: the most biased organization, maybe in the world kind rather
- 39:58Speaker 1: than the Ala Ribia. Okay, that I would the BBC.
- 40:02Speaker 1: The BBC has been riddled with problems for many, many years,
- 40:06Speaker 1: but only now they come into light, thankfully.
- 40:08Speaker 10: Look, there's a.
- 40:09Speaker 1: Whole investigation about their open and a semitism of the
- 40:11Speaker 1: BBC done by the British government. The Telegraph came out
- 40:15Speaker 1: with a series of articles about BBC bias against Israel.
- 40:21Speaker 1: I mean, horrific bias. We're supporting October seventh, supporting Hamas,
- 40:25Speaker 1: talking about supporting the Holocaust.
- 40:28Speaker 6: I'm not kidding.
- 40:29Speaker 1: There was a journal a prominent journalist who appears on
- 40:31Speaker 1: the BBC all the time, who talked about thanks for
- 40:34Speaker 1: the Jews, the big burn, just like they were in
- 40:36Speaker 1: the Holocaust. Okay, as a documentary made by the BBC,
- 40:41Speaker 1: made broadcast by the BBC by somebody who's the son
- 40:44Speaker 1: of a Camas minister.
- 40:46Speaker 6: Right.
- 40:47Speaker 1: Look, and this guy Samir who will not simply and
- 40:50Speaker 1: so they finally said, okay, we're doing an investigation.
- 40:52Speaker 6: Okay.
- 40:53Speaker 1: And this guy here Shaw we just saw wouldn't call
- 40:55Speaker 1: Hamas a terrorist organization is the one who's overseen the investigation.
- 41:00Speaker 1: It's unbelievable to me. I'm glad it's coming to late,
- 41:02Speaker 1: but yeah, it's I don't think it's getting no traction
- 41:06Speaker 1: or coverage here in the US.
- 41:07Speaker 2: Unbelievable, Horowitz, thank you so much for your time tonight.
- 41:14Speaker 2: Still to can't why King Charles is still refusing to
- 41:17Speaker 2: speak to Prince Harry. Kinsey's Scotfield joins me next welcome back,
- 41:31Speaker 2: joining me now celebrity and raw commentator Kinsey Schofield Kinsey
- 41:35Speaker 2: Prince Harry has given a new interview to the BBC
- 41:38Speaker 2: after losing his UK police protection case. The court ruling
- 41:42Speaker 2: against his claim that the security entitlements were downgraded due
- 41:47Speaker 2: to him being singled out for inferior treatment, upholding instead
- 41:51Speaker 2: that it was reasonable given that he had abandoned his
- 41:54Speaker 2: world duties and moved to the US. But here he
- 41:57Speaker 2: bizarrely claims that he is still in tire and will
- 42:01Speaker 2: always be titled.
- 42:02Speaker 10: You're no longer a working royal, a change in your status?
- 42:05Speaker 2: Do you not accept that from the court?
- 42:09Speaker 10: Well, my status status hasn't changed. The cant change. I
- 42:16Speaker 10: am who I am, I am part of what I'm
- 42:18Speaker 10: part of, and I can never escape that my circumstances
- 42:22Speaker 10: will always be the.
- 42:23Speaker 2: Same Kinsey just doesn't get it, does he.
- 42:27Speaker 13: I mean, it's unfortunate that it's taken Prince Harry forty
- 42:30Speaker 13: years to learn the definition of the word consequences. But
- 42:34Speaker 13: it was Princess Diana herself that referred to her youngest
- 42:37Speaker 13: son as thick, and here it was on full display.
- 42:40Speaker 13: Harry said himself in that interview that he has no regrets.
- 42:43Speaker 13: He does not regret it at all. He continues to
- 42:46Speaker 13: take no accountability for his own destructive actions. This was
- 42:50Speaker 13: something that was presented to him at the Sandringham summit.
- 42:53Speaker 13: If you step down, if you lead, you will not
- 42:56Speaker 13: Can you imagine quitting any job and assuming you were
- 42:59Speaker 13: going to still get the perks of that job. But
- 43:03Speaker 13: I will say that there have been whispers that Harry
- 43:06Speaker 13: has been desperately trying to connect with his father and
- 43:09Speaker 13: brother through old friends and retired courtiers. Neither have taken
- 43:13Speaker 13: the bait. But classic Harry, just like you heard there,
- 43:16Speaker 13: refusing to follow protocol mat Cansey.
- 43:20Speaker 2: The fallout from this case is extended to Harry's relationship
- 43:24Speaker 2: with his father, King Charles. Here he speaks about wanting
- 43:27Speaker 2: a reconciliation.
- 43:29Speaker 10: I would love reconciliation with my family. I've always know
- 43:34Speaker 10: there's no point in continuing to fight anymore. And is
- 43:37Speaker 10: that life is precious. I don't know how much longer
- 43:41Speaker 10: my father has. You know, he he won't speak to
- 43:46Speaker 10: me because of this security stuff.
- 43:47Speaker 2: Is that true? Is he refusing to talk to his
- 43:50Speaker 2: son because of security stuff?
- 43:54Speaker 13: No? No, Keep in mind, this is not the first
- 43:56Speaker 13: time Harry has claimed to the media that his father
- 43:58Speaker 13: cut him off. Megan claims Harry lost his father during
- 44:02Speaker 13: their original Netflix series, and Harry told Oprah Winfrey back
- 44:05Speaker 13: in twenty twenty one that the King wasn't taking his
- 44:08Speaker 13: calls for it, later to be revealed that Harry was
- 44:10Speaker 13: allegedly calling too harass the then Prince Charles about money,
- 44:15Speaker 13: with Charles reportedly telling Queen Elizabeth, I'm not a ATM.
- 44:19Speaker 13: Do you remember those reports? So this is not the
- 44:22Speaker 13: first time Rysarias said daddy won't take my calls. And
- 44:25Speaker 13: you know what, nobody can trust him, because when Prince
- 44:28Speaker 13: William and the King spoke to him after Prince Philip's
- 44:31Speaker 13: funeral and said, hey, pump the brakes, there's a way
- 44:35Speaker 13: for us to work this out. That's in like the
- 44:37Speaker 13: first chapter of his book. So how can anybody trust
- 44:41Speaker 13: this guy.
- 44:44Speaker 2: That's precisely right, and that's why it souls close to
- 44:47Speaker 2: the King. This tole the the Daly Mail that Harry's
- 44:50Speaker 2: BBC interview has made things worse, and the quote there
- 44:54Speaker 2: is it's not the King. It's not that the King
- 44:56Speaker 2: won't speak to him, it's that he can't. How can
- 44:59Speaker 2: you have a private and delicate conversation when you know
- 45:02Speaker 2: it's going to end up on a new special within hours?
- 45:05Speaker 2: And Kinsey, that's the point we've been making the King Charles,
- 45:10Speaker 2: if Prince William Kate, anyone talks to him or Meghan,
- 45:14Speaker 2: it's just more content for the next book or Netflix series. Now, Kinsey,
- 45:18Speaker 2: moving along, let's talk about the podcasters that are most trusted.
- 45:24Speaker 2: New poll has revealed that more Americans trust podcasters like
- 45:28Speaker 2: Megan Kelly and Joe Rogan then don't trust them. This
- 45:31Speaker 2: has caused all sorts of angst for left wing publications
- 45:36Speaker 2: like the UK Independent. They're aghast they've labeled Rogan a
- 45:41Speaker 2: conspiracy pedaling podcaster. They don't seem to understand Kinsey that
- 45:46Speaker 2: not only do these characters like Meghan Kelly and Joe
- 45:50Speaker 2: Rogan have enormous audiences, there is a trust there. They're
- 45:54Speaker 2: not seen as conspiracy peddlers, and frankly, some of the
- 45:58Speaker 2: so called conspiracy that Joe Rogan was maligned with were
- 46:02Speaker 2: all pretty accurate. During the COVID era, he was telling
- 46:06Speaker 2: us things that many in the mainstream media weren't or
- 46:10Speaker 2: other than programs like this, Yeah, we have to give
- 46:14Speaker 2: you a round of applause as well.
- 46:16Speaker 13: I think that people really do love Megan Kelly and
- 46:19Speaker 13: Joe Rogan's carefree approach. They they're pretty open about not
- 46:24Speaker 13: being experts on everything, and that's why they're open to
- 46:27Speaker 13: dialogue with people that are. And the mainstream media we
- 46:31Speaker 13: see today it feels like they're talking down to us.
- 46:33Speaker 13: Not only does it feel a lot of times like
- 46:35Speaker 13: they're lying to us, but it feels like they're talking
- 46:38Speaker 13: down to us. And I do think that that's a
- 46:40Speaker 13: strength when it comes to Megan and Joe, A sincere
- 46:43Speaker 13: curiosity and this care free nature of let's learn together.
- 46:50Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, And you know what, they cover the topics
- 46:54Speaker 2: that so many in the media ignored, and they're important topics.
- 46:58Speaker 2: So it's not just sometimes I getting fake news, but
- 47:02Speaker 2: it's the selection process that you could question. Now, let's
- 47:06Speaker 2: hear from actor and neo Marxist loon Sean Penn, who
- 47:10Speaker 2: went on quite an insane anti Trump die tribe on
- 47:14Speaker 2: Jim Acosta's show. This is something.
- 47:17Speaker 11: Donald Trump is not, unlike the spouse of someone who
- 47:21Speaker 11: leaves him, perhaps for another, who then murders their former
- 47:25Speaker 11: partner because if they can't have her, nobody can. And
- 47:30Speaker 11: I think Donald Trump and his soleb sysm may have
- 47:32Speaker 11: that relationship with the world.
- 47:35Speaker 2: Okay, as far as analogies go, that one is pretty crazy.
- 47:42Speaker 2: Tell me more about Sean Penn's appearance on this particular program.
- 47:48Speaker 13: Well, it's just a Jim a Casta and Sean Penn
- 47:51Speaker 13: talk about a tea party or an elevator. I want
- 47:53Speaker 13: out of I want out of that elevator and I
- 47:55Speaker 13: want on that crazy train Sean Penn. Where when is
- 48:00Speaker 13: the last time Seanpen has done anything riveting or compelling
- 48:04Speaker 13: that makes him an authority on any of this stuff?
- 48:07Speaker 13: It's crazy. And I won't get into the rumors about
- 48:10Speaker 13: Seanpen and Madonna's relationship that we're all over the tabloids.
- 48:13Speaker 13: But I don't think my president has been accused of
- 48:16Speaker 13: anything even remotely similar to what he.
- 48:20Speaker 2: Was accused of back in the day.
- 48:22Speaker 13: So pump the breaks, buddy.
- 48:25Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, And this is a dude who went down
- 48:27Speaker 2: to Venezuela and was buddying up to the dictator down there.
- 48:31Speaker 2: I mean, this guy is beyond belief. Before you go,
- 48:34Speaker 2: we've only got twenty seconds. But Alec Boorwin's infamous film
- 48:38Speaker 2: Russ It's finally been released. Terrible opening weekend, twenty five
- 48:42Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Take that's nothing. This costs about seven million
- 48:48Speaker 2: dollars to make.
- 48:48Speaker 13: Insie, Well, that's not even going to buy Hilaria Baldwin
- 48:53Speaker 13: a new yoga bra and yoga matt. So I'm sure
- 48:56Speaker 13: that Hilaria is livid, but yeah, what what he expects.
- 49:00Speaker 13: This was the horrible experience on this set them continuing
- 49:04Speaker 13: to do the movie. The director, who was also shot,
- 49:07Speaker 13: said he wishes they hadn't continued with it.
- 49:09Speaker 2: And I think that this is a great example should
- 49:12Speaker 2: have abandoned the whole thing. They should have abandoned it.
- 49:15Speaker 2: KINSI Schofield, thanks for your time, and that's all the
- 49:19Speaker 2: time we have tonight. I'll see you at eleven tomorrow
- 49:22Speaker 2: night with Douglas Murray. Mis Night is up next.