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West End to Wedding Singer - with Rebecca Cole · Wedding Pros who are ready to grow - with Becca Pountney

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  There.
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  And
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  yeah,
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  again,
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  it's
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  just
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  if
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  you
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  know
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  people
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  that
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  get
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  married,
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  that's
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  a
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  great
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  way
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  to
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  start
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  because
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  you
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  can
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  give
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  your
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  services
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  for
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  free
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  only
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  at
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  the
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  very
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  beginning
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  though.
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  I'm
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  Becca
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  Pountney,
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  wedding
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  business
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  Marketing
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  expert,
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  speaker
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  and
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  blogger,
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  and
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  you're
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  listening
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  to
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  the
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  Wedding
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  Pros
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  who
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  Are
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  Ready
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  to
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  Grow
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  podcast.
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  I'm
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  here
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  to
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  share
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  with
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  you
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  actionable
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  tips,
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  strategies
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  and
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  real
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  life
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  examples
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  to
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  help
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  you
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  take
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  your
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  wedding
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  business
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  to
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  the
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  next
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  level.
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  If
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  you
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  are
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  an
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  ambitious
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  wedding
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  business
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  owner
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  that
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  wants
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  to
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  take
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  your
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  passion
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  and
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  use
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  it
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  to
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  build
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  a
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  profitable,
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  sustainable
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  business
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  doing
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  what
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  you
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  you
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  love,
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  then
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  you're
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  in
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  the
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  right
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  place.
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  Let's
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  get
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  going
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  with
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  today's
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  episode.
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  Today
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  I'm
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  chatting
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  with
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  Rebecca
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  Cole,
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  a
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  wedding
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  singer
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  based
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  in
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  Northamptonshire
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  but
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  traveling
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  the
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  UK
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  to
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  work.
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  Rebecca
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  has
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  been
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  in
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  my
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  Members
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  Lounge
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  program
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  for
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  a
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  number
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  of
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  years
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  and
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  is
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  always
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  working
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  hard
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  to
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  refine
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  and
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  grow
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  her
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  wedding
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  business.
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  I
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  love
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  to
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  bring
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  you
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  real
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  stories
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  from
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  wedding
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  pros
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  I
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  work
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  with,
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  so
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  I
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  cannot
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  wait
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  to
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  find
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  out
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  more
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  about
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  Rebecca.
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  Welcome
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  to
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  the
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  podcast.
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  Thank
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  you
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  very
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  much.
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  I
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  am
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  really
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  looking
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  forward
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  to
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  hearing
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  more
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  from
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  you.
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  I
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  think
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  you
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  are
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  one
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  of
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  my
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  first
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  ever
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  wedding
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  singing
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  guests
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  on
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  my
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  podcast.
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  I've
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  had
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  various
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  different
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  musicians,
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  but
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  I
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  don't
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  think
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  and
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  sorry
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  to
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  anyone
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  that
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  has
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  been
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  a
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  guest
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  on
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  here
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  previously
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  if
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  I've
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  got
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  it
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  wrong,
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  but
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  I
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  don't
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  think
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  we've
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  had
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  any
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  other
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  singers.
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  So
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  I'm
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  really
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  excited
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  to
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  get
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  into
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  this
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  conversation.
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  But
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  before
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  we
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  get
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  to
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  what
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  you
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  do
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  today,
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  I
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  always
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  like
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  to
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  take
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  the
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  listeners
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  back
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  a
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  little
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  bit.
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  So
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  take
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  us
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  back
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  to
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  the
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  start
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  of
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  your
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  career.
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  How
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  did
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  you
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  get
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  into
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  singing
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  in
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  the
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  first
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  place?
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  Okay,
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  so
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  I
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  started
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  singing
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  when
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  I
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  was
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  about
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  8
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  years
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  old.
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  We're
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  not
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  going
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  to
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  go
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  that
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  far
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  back,
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  but
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  and
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  then
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  I
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  trained
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  in
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  musical
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  theater.
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  I
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  graduated
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  in
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  2010.
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  That
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  was
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  where
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  my
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  roots
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  lie.
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  I
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  did
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  various
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  shows.
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  I
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  went
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  on
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  a
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  cruise
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  ship
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  for
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  about
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  13
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  months.
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  I
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  used
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  to
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  live
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  on
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  a
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  tour
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  bus
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  with
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  lots
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  of
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  other
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  performers.
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  I've
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  been
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  on
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  the
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  West
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  End.
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  Like
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  I
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  I
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  was
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  backing
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  vocalist
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  for,
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  yeah,
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  a
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  show
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  and
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  done
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  a
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  range
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  of
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  things.
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  And
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  then
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  I
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  but
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  in
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  the
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  back
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  of
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  my
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  head
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  I
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  always
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  had
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  an
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  interest
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  in
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  weddings.
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  No
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  one
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  around
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  me
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  was
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  doing
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  that
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  kind
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  of
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  thing,
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  but
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  I
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  knew
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  that's
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  where
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  I
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  went
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  wanted
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  to
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  end
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  up.
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  And
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  I
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  hadn't
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  seen
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  anybody
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  doing
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  what
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  I
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  do
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  up
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  until
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  that
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  point.
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  Obviously
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  have
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  acoustic
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  guitarists
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  and
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  duos
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  and
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  things
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  like
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  that,
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  but
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  never
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  like
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  a
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  solo
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  singer
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  just
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  on
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  their
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  own.
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  But
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  so
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  I
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  Set
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  out
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  the
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  mission
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  to
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  start
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  my
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  business
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  and
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  I
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  still
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  did
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  it
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  alongside
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  other
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  shows.
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  So
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  I
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  was.
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  Think
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  I
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  was
• 2:19
  in
• 2:19
  the.
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  It's
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  called
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  Thus,
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  but
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  it's
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  like
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  one
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  of
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  the
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  biggest
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  Christmas
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  shows
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  in
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  Europe.
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  It's
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  mental.
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  But
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  I
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  was
• 2:25
  still
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  doing
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  that.
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  And
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  on
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  my
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  days
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  off,
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  I'd
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  be
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  doing
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  weddings
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  and
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  I'd
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  be
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  able
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  to
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  make
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  sure
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  that
• 2:29
  my
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  days
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  off
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  coincided
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  with
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  that.
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  So
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  I
• 2:31
  couldn't
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  fully,
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  fully
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  go
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  cold
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  turkey
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  and
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  just
• 2:34
  have
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  weddings
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  straight
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  away.
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  But
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  so
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  that
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  was
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  how
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  I
• 2:36
  started
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  to
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  get
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  into
• 2:37
  it.
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  And.
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  Yeah.
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  And
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  then
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  gradually
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  I
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  put
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  up
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  a
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  video
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  of
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  me
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  singing
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  on
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  Facebook
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  because
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  that's,
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  you
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  know,
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  it
• 2:43
  was
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  a
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  long
• 2:44
  time
• 2:44
  ago
• 2:44
  now,
• 2:45
  actually,
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  this
• 2:45
  is
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  my
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  ninth
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  year
• 2:46
  of
• 2:46
  doing
• 2:46
  weddings,
• 2:47
  so
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  that
• 2:48
  video
• 2:48
  went
• 2:48
  kind
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  of
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  crazy
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  and
• 2:49
  lots
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  of
• 2:50
  people
• 2:50
  asking
• 2:50
  me
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  to
• 2:51
  sing
• 2:51
  at
• 2:51
  their
• 2:51
  weddings.
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  And,
• 2:53
  yeah,
• 2:53
  it
• 2:53
  started
• 2:53
  from
• 2:53
  there,
• 2:54
  really.
• 2:54
  Now
• 2:54
  you've
• 2:55
  given
• 2:55
  us
• 2:55
  a
• 2:55
  very
• 2:55
  potted
• 2:56
  history
• 2:56
  there,
• 2:56
  but
• 2:56
  there's
• 2:57
  definitely
• 2:57
  some
• 2:57
  exciting
• 2:58
  things
• 2:58
  to
• 2:58
  talk
• 2:58
  about
• 2:59
  within
• 2:59
  your
• 2:59
  story.
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  Now,
• 3:00
  anyone
• 3:00
  who
• 3:00
  listens
• 3:01
  to
• 3:01
  this
• 3:01
  podcast
• 3:01
  regularly
• 3:02
  knows
• 3:02
  that
• 3:02
  I
• 3:03
  absolutely
• 3:03
  love
• 3:03
  musical
• 3:04
  theater.
• 3:04
  It's
• 3:04
  one
• 3:04
  of
• 3:05
  my
• 3:05
  favorite
• 3:05
  things
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  and
• 3:06
  so
• 3:06
  I
• 3:06
  love
• 3:07
  talking
• 3:07
  about
• 3:07
  it.
• 3:07
  So
• 3:07
  where
• 3:08
  did
• 3:08
  you
• 3:08
  train
• 3:08
  and
• 3:09
  what
• 3:09
  were
• 3:09
  some
• 3:09
  of
• 3:09
  the
• 3:10
  highlights
• 3:10
  when
• 3:10
  you
• 3:10
  were
• 3:11
  actually
• 3:11
  working
• 3:11
  in
• 3:12
  the
• 3:12
  industry?
• 3:13
  So
• 3:13
  I
• 3:13
  trained
• 3:13
  at
• 3:13
  a
• 3:14
  place
• 3:14
  called
• 3:14
  Performers
• 3:15
  College,
• 3:16
  and,
• 3:16
  yeah,
• 3:16
  you
• 3:17
  like
• 3:17
  dancing,
• 3:17
  acting
• 3:18
  and
• 3:18
  singing.
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  And
• 3:19
  that's
• 3:19
  where
• 3:20
  I
• 3:20
  really
• 3:20
  wanted
• 3:21
  to
• 3:21
  be.
• 3:21
  That's
• 3:21
  what
• 3:22
  I
• 3:22
  originally
• 3:22
  set
• 3:23
  out
• 3:23
  to
• 3:23
  be.
• 3:24
  But
• 3:24
  then
• 3:24
  I
• 3:25
  started
• 3:25
  to
• 3:25
  get
• 3:25
  into
• 3:25
  the
• 3:25
  audition
• 3:26
  world
• 3:26
  and
• 3:26
  realize
• 3:26
  it's
• 3:27
  actually
• 3:27
  quite
• 3:27
  grueling,
• 3:28
  it's
• 3:28
  quite
• 3:28
  harsh.
• 3:29
  It's
• 3:29
  a
• 3:29
  lot
• 3:30
  about
• 3:30
  what
• 3:30
  you
• 3:30
  look
• 3:30
  like,
• 3:32
  and
• 3:32
  I
• 3:32
  still
• 3:33
  probably
• 3:33
  haven't
• 3:33
  recovered
• 3:34
  from
• 3:34
  that.
• 3:34
  I
• 3:35
  got
• 3:35
  down
• 3:35
  to
• 3:36
  the
• 3:36
  last
• 3:36
  two
• 3:37
  for
• 3:37
  Saturday
• 3:37
  Night
• 3:38
  Fever,
• 3:38
  for
• 3:38
  quite
• 3:38
  a
• 3:39
  big
• 3:39
  American
• 3:40
  cruise
• 3:41
  line.
• 3:41
  I'm
• 3:41
  not
• 3:41
  going
• 3:41
  to
• 3:41
  say
• 3:42
  which
• 3:42
  one.
• 3:42
  And
• 3:42
  I
• 3:42
  was
• 3:43
  told
• 3:43
  when
• 3:43
  I
• 3:43
  came
• 3:43
  back
• 3:44
  the
• 3:44
  next
• 3:44
  year
• 3:44
  to
• 3:44
  try
• 3:44
  again,
• 3:45
  that
• 3:45
  I
• 3:45
  was
• 3:45
  too
• 3:45
  pale.
• 3:46
  I've
• 3:46
  been
• 3:46
  told
• 3:46
  I'm
• 3:47
  too
• 3:47
  big,
• 3:48
  or
• 3:48
  this
• 3:48
  kind
• 3:48
  of
• 3:48
  thing
• 3:49
  don't
• 3:49
  look
• 3:49
  right.
• 3:50
  But
• 3:50
  that's.
• 3:50
  That's
• 3:51
  the
• 3:51
  negative
• 3:51
  side
• 3:52
  of
• 3:52
  it.
• 3:52
  But
• 3:52
  the
• 3:52
  positive
• 3:52
  side
• 3:52
  is
• 3:53
  I
• 3:53
  found
• 3:53
  my
• 3:53
  way
• 3:54
  around.
• 3:54
  I
• 3:54
  went
• 3:54
  to
• 3:55
  open
• 3:55
  auditions
• 3:55
  because,
• 3:56
  again,
• 3:56
  I
• 3:56
  wasn't
• 3:56
  getting
• 3:56
  through
• 3:57
  the
• 3:57
  door
• 3:57
  for
• 3:57
  the
• 3:58
  musicals.
• 3:58
  I
• 3:58
  wanted
• 3:59
  to
• 3:59
  get
• 3:59
  in,
• 3:59
  but
• 3:59
  I
• 4:00
  found
• 4:00
  other
• 4:00
  jobs
• 4:01
  and
• 4:01
  it
• 4:02
  was
• 4:02
  more
• 4:02
  about
• 4:02
  your
• 4:02
  singing,
• 4:03
  your
• 4:03
  performance,
• 4:04
  and.
• 4:04
  And
• 4:04
  it
• 4:04
  didn't
• 4:05
  matter
• 4:05
  what
• 4:05
  your
• 4:06
  size
• 4:06
  was,
• 4:06
  luckily.
• 4:07
  So,
• 4:07
  yeah,
• 4:08
  I.
• 4:08
  One
• 4:08
  of
• 4:09
  my
• 4:09
  highlights
• 4:09
  was
• 4:09
  touring
• 4:10
  a
• 4:10
  Queen
• 4:10
  show,
• 4:11
  and
• 4:11
  we
• 4:11
  also
• 4:11
  did
• 4:12
  a
• 4:12
  Blues
• 4:12
  Brothers
• 4:12
  show.
• 4:13
  And
• 4:13
  I
• 4:14
  just.
• 4:14
  I
• 4:14
  think
• 4:14
  it's
• 4:14
  more
• 4:15
  also
• 4:15
  sometimes
• 4:15
  about
• 4:16
  the
• 4:16
  people
• 4:16
  that
• 4:16
  you're
• 4:16
  working
• 4:17
  with.
• 4:17
  And,
• 4:17
  like,
• 4:17
  we
• 4:18
  were
• 4:18
  like,
• 4:18
  I
• 4:18
  Say
• 4:18
  we're
• 4:18
  on
• 4:18
  a
• 4:19
  tour
• 4:19
  bus,
• 4:20
  we
• 4:20
  were
• 4:20
  in
• 4:21
  each
• 4:21
  other's
• 4:21
  pockets
• 4:22
  and
• 4:22
  it
• 4:22
  was
• 4:22
  just
• 4:23
  an
• 4:23
  amazing
• 4:23
  experience.
• 4:24
  And
• 4:24
  you
• 4:24
  went
• 4:24
  on
• 4:24
  a
• 4:24
  stage
• 4:25
  every
• 4:25
  night,
• 4:25
  loving
• 4:26
  what
• 4:26
  you're
• 4:26
  doing.
• 4:26
  The
• 4:27
  production
• 4:27
  was
• 4:27
  amazing.
• 4:28
  You
• 4:28
  had
• 4:28
  dresses
• 4:29
  to
• 4:29
  help
• 4:29
  you,
• 4:29
  you
• 4:29
  had
• 4:29
  like
• 4:30
  a
• 4:30
  rider
• 4:31
  and
• 4:31
  sometimes
• 4:31
  you'd
• 4:31
  be
• 4:32
  open
• 4:32
  for
• 4:32
  diversity,
• 4:33
  people
• 4:33
  like
• 4:33
  that.
• 4:34
  So
• 4:34
  that
• 4:34
  was
• 4:34
  always
• 4:34
  exciting.
• 4:35
  And
• 4:35
  like
• 4:35
  I
• 4:36
  say,
• 4:36
  the
• 4:36
  people
• 4:36
  were
• 4:36
  amazing.
• 4:37
  I've
• 4:38
  done
• 4:38
  like,
• 4:39
  I've
• 4:39
  been
• 4:39
  in
• 4:39
  the
• 4:39
  West
• 4:39
  End,
• 4:40
  like
• 4:40
  for
• 4:40
  a
• 4:40
  night
• 4:40
  at
• 4:41
  the
• 4:41
  Thriller
• 4:41
  Theater,
• 4:42
  being
• 4:43
  a
• 4:43
  backup
• 4:43
  vocalist,
• 4:43
  but
• 4:44
  I
• 4:44
  did
• 4:44
  a
• 4:44
  big
• 4:44
  solo
• 4:45
  there.
• 4:45
  My
• 4:45
  dad
• 4:46
  came
• 4:46
  to
• 4:46
  watch,
• 4:46
  you
• 4:47
  know,
• 4:47
  all
• 4:47
  those
• 4:47
  kind
• 4:47
  of
• 4:47
  things
• 4:48
  when
• 4:48
  you've
• 4:49
  worked
• 4:49
  so
• 4:49
  hard
• 4:49
  throughout
• 4:50
  your
• 4:50
  life,
• 4:50
  when
• 4:50
  you
• 4:50
  get
• 4:51
  to
• 4:51
  those
• 4:51
  moments
• 4:51
  and
• 4:51
  you
• 4:52
  look
• 4:52
  around
• 4:52
  and
• 4:52
  you're
• 4:53
  like,
• 4:53
  it
• 4:53
  was
• 4:53
  worth
• 4:54
  it.
• 4:54
  It's
• 4:55
  a
• 4:55
  funny
• 4:55
  one
• 4:55
  though,
• 4:55
  isn't
• 4:55
  it?
• 4:56
  Because
• 4:56
  it's
• 4:56
  a
• 4:56
  bit
• 4:56
  like
• 4:56
  when
• 4:56
  I
• 4:57
  look
• 4:57
  back
• 4:57
  over
• 4:57
  my
• 4:57
  TV
• 4:58
  career,
• 4:58
  you
• 4:58
  like
• 4:59
  love
• 4:59
  it
• 4:59
  and
• 4:59
  you
• 4:59
  hate
• 4:59
  it
• 5:00
  at
• 5:00
  the
• 5:00
  same
• 5:00
  time.
• 5:00
  Like
• 5:00
  it's
• 5:01
  a
• 5:01
  tough
• 5:01
  industry.
• 5:02
  I
• 5:02
  look
• 5:02
  back
• 5:02
  on
• 5:02
  the
• 5:03
  days
• 5:03
  when
• 5:03
  I
• 5:03
  worked
• 5:03
  on
• 5:04
  the
• 5:04
  TV
• 5:04
  shows
• 5:04
  and
• 5:05
  I
• 5:05
  look
• 5:05
  back
• 5:05
  on
• 5:05
  them
• 5:05
  fondly,
• 5:06
  but
• 5:06
  I
• 5:06
  wouldn't
• 5:06
  be
• 5:06
  able
• 5:07
  to
• 5:07
  do
• 5:07
  it
• 5:07
  still
• 5:07
  now
• 5:07
  because
• 5:08
  it
• 5:08
  was
• 5:08
  brutal
• 5:08
  and
• 5:08
  because
• 5:09
  the
• 5:09
  contracts
• 5:09
  were
• 5:09
  short
• 5:10
  and
• 5:10
  because
• 5:10
  it
• 5:10
  who
• 5:10
  you
• 5:11
  knew
• 5:11
  and
• 5:11
  not
• 5:11
  what
• 5:11
  you
• 5:11
  knew
• 5:11
  and
• 5:12
  it
• 5:12
  was
• 5:12
  hard
• 5:13
  work.
• 5:13
  And
• 5:13
  these
• 5:13
  industries,
• 5:14
  yeah,
• 5:14
  there's
• 5:14
  work
• 5:15
  in
• 5:15
  them,
• 5:15
  but
• 5:15
  they
• 5:15
  are
• 5:15
  tough
• 5:16
  industries
• 5:17
  to
• 5:17
  get
• 5:17
  into.
• 5:17
  It
• 5:17
  made
• 5:17
  me
• 5:18
  laugh
• 5:18
  when
• 5:18
  you're
• 5:18
  talking
• 5:19
  about
• 5:19
  going
• 5:20
  to
• 5:20
  auditions
• 5:20
  and
• 5:21
  your
• 5:21
  size
• 5:21
  and
• 5:21
  your
• 5:21
  shape
• 5:21
  and
• 5:22
  all
• 5:22
  that
• 5:22
  kind
• 5:22
  of
• 5:22
  thing,
• 5:22
  because
• 5:23
  this
• 5:23
  is
• 5:23
  an
• 5:23
  exclusive
• 5:24
  for
• 5:24
  the
• 5:24
  podcast.
• 5:24
  But
• 5:25
  years
• 5:25
  ago,
• 5:25
  when
• 5:25
  I
• 5:26
  was
• 5:26
  sort
• 5:26
  of
• 5:26
  six
• 5:27
  form
• 5:27
  university
• 5:27
  age,
• 5:28
  I
• 5:28
  thought,
• 5:28
  I'm
• 5:28
  going
• 5:28
  to
• 5:28
  try
• 5:28
  my
• 5:28
  hand
• 5:29
  at
• 5:29
  some
• 5:29
  of
• 5:29
  these
• 5:29
  auditions.
• 5:29
  And
• 5:30
  I
• 5:30
  remember
• 5:30
  going
• 5:30
  along
• 5:30
  to
• 5:31
  an
• 5:31
  open
• 5:31
  audition
• 5:31
  for
• 5:31
  Disneyland
• 5:32
  Paris
• 5:32
  and
• 5:33
  one
• 5:33
  of
• 5:33
  the
• 5:33
  first
• 5:33
  things
• 5:33
  they
• 5:34
  did,
• 5:34
  I
• 5:34
  don't
• 5:34
  know
• 5:34
  if
• 5:34
  you've
• 5:34
  ever
• 5:34
  been
• 5:34
  to
• 5:34
  a
• 5:35
  Disney
• 5:35
  audition,
• 5:35
  is
• 5:35
  they
• 5:36
  measured
• 5:36
  you
• 5:36
  outside
• 5:37
  because
• 5:37
  for
• 5:37
  all
• 5:38
  the
• 5:38
  characters
• 5:38
  you
• 5:38
  have
• 5:38
  to
• 5:38
  be
• 5:39
  a
• 5:39
  certain
• 5:39
  height.
• 5:39
  And
• 5:39
  I
• 5:39
  remember
• 5:40
  this
• 5:40
  so
• 5:40
  well
• 5:40
  and
• 5:41
  they
• 5:41
  went,
• 5:41
  the
• 5:41
  only
• 5:42
  character
• 5:42
  you'd
• 5:42
  be
• 5:42
  able
• 5:42
  to
• 5:43
  play
• 5:43
  is
• 5:43
  Goofy
• 5:43
  because
• 5:44
  you're
• 5:44
  so
• 5:44
  tall.
• 5:45
  And
• 5:45
  I
• 5:45
  just
• 5:45
  remember
• 5:46
  thinking
• 5:46
  in
• 5:47
  one
• 5:47
  second,
• 5:48
  all
• 5:48
  my
• 5:48
  dizzy
• 5:48
  dreams
• 5:49
  have
• 5:49
  been
• 5:49
  crushed.
• 5:50
  Because
• 5:50
  the
• 5:50
  only
• 5:51
  person,
• 5:51
  if
• 5:51
  I
• 5:51
  ever
• 5:51
  got
• 5:52
  through,
• 5:52
  which
• 5:52
  I
• 5:52
  didn't,
• 5:53
  that
• 5:53
  I
• 5:53
  could
• 5:53
  play
• 5:54
  because
• 5:54
  of
• 5:54
  my
• 5:54
  height
• 5:54
  was
• 5:55
  Goofy.
• 5:55
  And
• 5:55
  the
• 5:55
  moment,
• 5:56
  as
• 5:56
  you
• 5:56
  say,
• 5:56
  the
• 5:56
  moment
• 5:57
  you
• 5:57
  walk
• 5:57
  in
• 5:57
  that
• 5:57
  door,
• 5:58
  it's
• 5:58
  like,
• 5:59
  you
• 5:59
  know,
• 5:59
  I
• 5:59
  can
• 5:59
  talk
• 6:00
  all
• 6:00
  the
• 6:00
  time
• 6:00
  about
• 6:00
  being
• 6:01
  unapologetically
• 6:01
  you
• 6:02
  and
• 6:02
  standing
• 6:02
  out,
• 6:02
  but
• 6:03
  in
• 6:03
  that
• 6:03
  industry,
• 6:04
  no,
• 6:04
  it's
• 6:04
  cutthroat.
• 6:05
  It's
• 6:05
  absolutely
• 6:05
  brutal.
• 6:06
  So
• 6:06
  I
• 6:06
  can
• 6:07
  see
• 6:07
  it
• 6:07
  from
• 6:07
  both
• 6:08
  sides
• 6:08
  as
• 6:08
  well.
• 6:08
  I
• 6:08
  can
• 6:08
  see
• 6:09
  how
• 6:09
  you,
• 6:09
  you
• 6:09
  can
• 6:09
  love
• 6:10
  it.
• 6:10
  I
• 6:10
  can
• 6:10
  see
• 6:10
  how
• 6:10
  it's
• 6:11
  tough.
• 6:12
  So
• 6:12
  what
• 6:12
  was
• 6:12
  it
• 6:12
  then
• 6:13
  that
• 6:13
  made
• 6:13
  you
• 6:13
  go,
• 6:14
  I
• 6:14
  love
• 6:14
  this?
• 6:15
  It's
• 6:15
  hard
• 6:16
  actually.
• 6:16
  Maybe
• 6:16
  I
• 6:16
  want
• 6:17
  to
• 6:17
  sing
• 6:17
  at
• 6:17
  weddings
• 6:17
  or
• 6:18
  do
• 6:18
  something
• 6:18
  different.
• 6:18
  Was
• 6:18
  there
• 6:18
  a
• 6:19
  specific
• 6:19
  turning
• 6:19
  point
• 6:20
  that
• 6:20
  made
• 6:20
  you
• 6:20
  think
• 6:20
  that?
• 6:21
  I
• 6:21
  think
• 6:22
  also
• 6:22
  just
• 6:23
  being
• 6:25
  in
• 6:25
  between
• 6:25
  jobs
• 6:26
  as
• 6:26
  well,
• 6:26
  like
• 6:27
  you
• 6:27
  say
• 6:27
  the
• 6:27
  contracts
• 6:27
  are
• 6:28
  short
• 6:28
  and
• 6:28
  then
• 6:28
  there'd
• 6:28
  be
• 6:28
  a
• 6:28
  period
• 6:29
  of
• 6:29
  time
• 6:29
  where
• 6:29
  you're
• 6:29
  auditioning
• 6:29
  for
• 6:30
  the
• 6:30
  next
• 6:30
  thing,
• 6:30
  your
• 6:30
  money's
• 6:30
  not
• 6:31
  coming
• 6:31
  in,
• 6:31
  you're
• 6:31
  a
• 6:31
  waitress
• 6:31
  while
• 6:32
  you're
• 6:32
  waiting
• 6:32
  for
• 6:32
  the
• 6:32
  next
• 6:33
  thing.
• 6:33
  It's
• 6:33
  very
• 6:33
  up
• 6:34
  and
• 6:34
  down.
• 6:34
  Like
• 6:34
  I
• 6:34
  lived
• 6:34
  in
• 6:35
  London
• 6:35
  for
• 6:35
  a
• 6:35
  bit
• 6:35
  and
• 6:35
  that,
• 6:36
  you
• 6:36
  know,
• 6:36
  you
• 6:36
  can't
• 6:37
  live
• 6:37
  off
• 6:37
  nothing
• 6:38
  in
• 6:38
  London.
• 6:39
  You
• 6:39
  have
• 6:39
  to
• 6:39
  go
• 6:39
  on
• 6:39
  a
• 6:40
  job
• 6:40
  and
• 6:40
  then
• 6:41
  they
• 6:41
  give
• 6:41
  you
• 6:41
  money,
• 6:42
  they
• 6:42
  give
• 6:42
  you
• 6:42
  your
• 6:42
  accommodation,
• 6:43
  but
• 6:43
  you've
• 6:43
  never
• 6:44
  really
• 6:44
  got
• 6:44
  anywhere
• 6:45
  sturdy,
• 6:45
  nowhere
• 6:45
  to
• 6:46
  like
• 6:46
  set
• 6:46
  your
• 6:47
  roots.
• 6:48
  And
• 6:48
  I
• 6:48
  knew
• 6:49
  I
• 6:49
  wanted
• 6:49
  a
• 6:49
  family
• 6:49
  one
• 6:50
  day.
• 6:50
  I
• 6:51
  just
• 6:51
  thought,
• 6:51
  maybe
• 6:51
  I
• 6:51
  can
• 6:52
  try
• 6:52
  and
• 6:52
  stay
• 6:53
  in
• 6:53
  one
• 6:53
  place.
• 6:53
  I
• 6:53
  might
• 6:54
  have
• 6:54
  to
• 6:54
  travel
• 6:54
  around
• 6:54
  the
• 6:55
  country.
• 6:55
  I
• 6:55
  worked
• 6:55
  for
• 6:56
  other
• 6:56
  companies.
• 6:56
  I
• 6:56
  did
• 6:56
  like
• 6:57
  girl
• 6:57
  groups.
• 6:57
  I
• 6:57
  used
• 6:58
  to
• 6:58
  be
• 6:58
  in
• 6:58
  a
• 6:58
  little
• 6:58
  mixed
• 6:58
  tribute,
• 6:59
  a
• 6:59
  Spice
• 6:59
  Girl
• 7:00
  tribute,
• 7:00
  that
• 7:01
  kind
• 7:01
  of
• 7:01
  thing,
• 7:01
  and
• 7:02
  working
• 7:02
  for
• 7:02
  other
• 7:02
  people.
• 7:03
  And
• 7:03
  then
• 7:03
  I
• 7:03
  kind
• 7:03
  of
• 7:03
  got
• 7:03
  the
• 7:04
  gigging
• 7:04
  side
• 7:05
  of
• 7:05
  it,
• 7:05
  which
• 7:05
  is
• 7:06
  the
• 7:06
  technical
• 7:06
  side
• 7:07
  of
• 7:07
  it,
• 7:07
  which
• 7:07
  you
• 7:07
  don't
• 7:07
  learn
• 7:07
  at
• 7:08
  college.
• 7:08
  Like
• 7:08
  all
• 7:08
  the
• 7:08
  equipment
• 7:09
  you
• 7:09
  have
• 7:09
  to
• 7:09
  use,
• 7:11
  getting
• 7:11
  your
• 7:11
  work,
• 7:12
  basically
• 7:13
  finding
• 7:13
  it
• 7:13
  yourself,
• 7:14
  making
• 7:14
  those
• 7:14
  connections.
• 7:15
  And
• 7:15
  then
• 7:16
  I
• 7:16
  thought
• 7:16
  maybe
• 7:16
  I
• 7:16
  could
• 7:16
  try
• 7:16
  it
• 7:17
  on
• 7:17
  my
• 7:17
  own.
• 7:17
  And
• 7:17
  like
• 7:18
  I
• 7:18
  say,
• 7:18
  I
• 7:18
  wanted
• 7:18
  a
• 7:18
  family,
• 7:19
  so
• 7:19
  I
• 7:19
  wanted
• 7:19
  to
• 7:21
  try
• 7:21
  and
• 7:21
  make
• 7:21
  it
• 7:21
  work
• 7:22
  around
• 7:22
  me.
• 7:22
  And
• 7:22
  if
• 7:22
  you're
• 7:23
  self
• 7:23
  employed,
• 7:23
  you
• 7:23
  can
• 7:24
  do
• 7:24
  that.
• 7:24
  You
• 7:24
  can
• 7:25
  say,
• 7:25
  I'm
• 7:25
  not
• 7:25
  available
• 7:25
  for
• 7:26
  that
• 7:26
  day.
• 7:26
  A
• 7:26
  little
• 7:26
  bit
• 7:26
  different
• 7:27
  when
• 7:27
  you're
• 7:27
  working
• 7:27
  for
• 7:27
  someone
• 7:27
  else
• 7:28
  because
• 7:28
  they.
• 7:28
  You
• 7:28
  give
• 7:28
  them
• 7:29
  your
• 7:29
  diary
• 7:29
  and
• 7:29
  you
• 7:29
  haven't
• 7:30
  really
• 7:30
  got
• 7:30
  much
• 7:30
  of
• 7:30
  a
• 7:31
  say.
• 7:31
  But
• 7:31
  I
• 7:31
  didn't
• 7:31
  like
• 7:32
  that
• 7:32
  aspect.
• 7:32
  I
• 7:32
  really
• 7:33
  wanted
• 7:33
  to
• 7:33
  work
• 7:33
  specifically
• 7:34
  for
• 7:34
  myself
• 7:35
  and
• 7:35
  go
• 7:35
  to
• 7:35
  family
• 7:36
  events
• 7:36
  that
• 7:36
  and
• 7:36
  that
• 7:37
  I've
• 7:37
  been
• 7:37
  missing
• 7:37
  for
• 7:38
  years
• 7:38
  and
• 7:38
  years
• 7:39
  and
• 7:39
  years
• 7:40
  and
• 7:40
  now
• 7:40
  I
• 7:40
  can
• 7:41
  do
• 7:41
  that
• 7:41
  and
• 7:41
  it's
• 7:42
  all
• 7:42
  on
• 7:42
  my
• 7:42
  terms,
• 7:43
  which
• 7:43
  is
• 7:43
  the
• 7:44
  dream
• 7:44
  really,
• 7:44
  isn't
• 7:44
  it?
• 7:45
  Yeah,
• 7:46
  absolutely.
• 7:46
  So
• 7:47
  do
• 7:47
  you
• 7:47
  remember
• 7:48
  your
• 7:48
  first
• 7:48
  wedding
• 7:48
  booking?
• 7:49
  Do
• 7:49
  you
• 7:49
  remember
• 7:50
  how
• 7:50
  it
• 7:50
  came
• 7:51
  about?
• 7:51
  Was
• 7:51
  it
• 7:51
  a
• 7:51
  friend
• 7:52
  and
• 7:52
  family
• 7:52
  member?
• 7:52
  Was
• 7:53
  it
• 7:53
  a
• 7:53
  random
• 7:53
  stranger?
• 7:54
  Because
• 7:54
  I
• 7:54
  always
• 7:54
  think
• 7:54
  it's
• 7:55
  interesting
• 7:55
  for
• 7:55
  people
• 7:55
  starting
• 7:56
  out
• 7:56
  to
• 7:57
  look
• 7:57
  back
• 7:57
  and
• 7:57
  go,
• 7:58
  oh,
• 7:58
  how
• 7:58
  did
• 7:58
  they
• 7:58
  get
• 7:58
  their
• 7:59
  first
• 7:59
  booking?
• 7:59
  Because
• 7:59
  it's
• 7:59
  often
• 8:00
  the
• 8:00
  hardest
• 8:00
  one
• 8:00
  to
• 8:00
  get.
• 8:01
  Yeah,
• 8:01
  I
• 8:01
  think
• 8:02
  it
• 8:02
  came
• 8:02
  from
• 8:02
  that
• 8:02
  first
• 8:03
  Facebook
• 8:04
  video.
• 8:04
  I
• 8:05
  think
• 8:05
  they
• 8:05
  contacted
• 8:05
  me
• 8:06
  through
• 8:06
  that.
• 8:06
  I
• 8:06
  didn't
• 8:06
  know
• 8:07
  that
• 8:07
  and
• 8:07
  it
• 8:07
  was
• 8:07
  at
• 8:07
  a
• 8:08
  church
• 8:08
  with
• 8:08
  two
• 8:08
  church.
• 8:08
  Weddings,
• 8:09
  when
• 8:09
  I
• 8:09
  started
• 8:09
  were
• 8:10
  much
• 8:10
  more
• 8:10
  of
• 8:10
  a
• 8:10
  thing
• 8:10
  than
• 8:10
  they
• 8:10
  are
• 8:11
  now.
• 8:12
  And
• 8:12
  I
• 8:13
  don't
• 8:13
  know
• 8:13
  if
• 8:13
  you
• 8:13
  have.
• 8:14
  They
• 8:14
  don't
• 8:14
  open
• 8:15
  them,
• 8:15
  the
• 8:15
  doors
• 8:16
  very
• 8:16
  early
• 8:16
  for
• 8:16
  you.
• 8:17
  You
• 8:17
  kind
• 8:17
  of
• 8:17
  like.
• 8:18
  I
• 8:18
  got
• 8:18
  there
• 8:18
  really
• 8:18
  early,
• 8:19
  ready
• 8:19
  to
• 8:19
  go,
• 8:20
  but
• 8:20
  I
• 8:20
  had
• 8:20
  to
• 8:20
  wait
• 8:20
  until
• 8:21
  the
• 8:21
  vicar
• 8:21
  was
• 8:21
  there
• 8:21
  or
• 8:22
  whoever
• 8:22
  the
• 8:23
  person
• 8:23
  is
• 8:23
  that
• 8:23
  has
• 8:23
  the
• 8:23
  keys,
• 8:24
  and
• 8:24
  then
• 8:24
  I
• 8:25
  have
• 8:25
  to
• 8:25
  get
• 8:25
  in.
• 8:25
  And
• 8:25
  it
• 8:25
  was
• 8:25
  all
• 8:26
  like
• 8:26
  a
• 8:26
  learning
• 8:26
  curve,
• 8:26
  that
• 8:27
  kind
• 8:27
  of
• 8:27
  thing.
• 8:27
  But,
• 8:27
  yeah,
• 8:27
  it
• 8:27
  was
• 8:27
  a
• 8:28
  stranger,
• 8:28
  somebody
• 8:28
  I
• 8:29
  didn't
• 8:29
  know,
• 8:30
  and
• 8:30
  she
• 8:30
  was
• 8:31
  really
• 8:31
  grateful.
• 8:31
  But
• 8:32
  I
• 8:32
  was
• 8:32
  so
• 8:32
  nervous,
• 8:33
  as
• 8:33
  you
• 8:33
  can
• 8:33
  imagine,
• 8:34
  it's
• 8:34
  like
• 8:34
  the
• 8:35
  biggest
• 8:35
  pressure
• 8:36
  because
• 8:36
  it's
• 8:36
  somebody's
• 8:37
  really
• 8:37
  special
• 8:37
  day
• 8:39
  and
• 8:39
  I
• 8:39
  was
• 8:39
  doing
• 8:39
  the
• 8:39
  ceremony,
• 8:40
  just
• 8:40
  the
• 8:40
  ceremony
• 8:41
  that
• 8:41
  day.
• 8:42
  But
• 8:42
  it
• 8:42
  went
• 8:43
  really
• 8:43
  well
• 8:43
  and.
• 8:44
  But
• 8:44
  then
• 8:44
  they
• 8:44
  went.
• 8:45
  They
• 8:45
  left
• 8:46
  and
• 8:46
  I
• 8:46
  didn't
• 8:46
  see
• 8:46
  them
• 8:47
  and
• 8:47
  I
• 8:47
  didn't
• 8:47
  know
• 8:47
  if
• 8:47
  I'd
• 8:47
  done
• 8:47
  a
• 8:47
  good
• 8:47
  job
• 8:48
  or
• 8:48
  not
• 8:48
  until
• 8:48
  they
• 8:48
  emailed
• 8:49
  me
• 8:49
  afterwards
• 8:49
  and
• 8:49
  told
• 8:50
  me
• 8:50
  no,
• 8:50
  that
• 8:50
  was
• 8:50
  amazing.
• 8:51
  And
• 8:52
  then
• 8:52
  you
• 8:52
  start
• 8:52
  to
• 8:52
  get
• 8:52
  confidence.
• 8:53
  And
• 8:53
  then
• 8:54
  another
• 8:54
  friend
• 8:54
  of
• 8:54
  a
• 8:54
  friend
• 8:55
  of
• 8:55
  mine
• 8:55
  was
• 8:55
  getting
• 8:55
  married
• 8:56
  and
• 8:56
  I
• 8:56
  said,
• 8:56
  I'll
• 8:56
  do
• 8:56
  a
• 8:56
  drink
• 8:57
  reception
• 8:57
  for
• 8:57
  free.
• 8:57
  I'm
• 8:57
  still
• 8:58
  learning.
• 8:58
  Like,
• 8:58
  I
• 8:58
  needed
• 8:59
  to
• 8:59
  get,
• 8:59
  you
• 8:59
  know,
• 8:59
  drink
• 8:59
  reception
• 9:00
  is
• 9:00
  two
• 9:00
  hours.
• 9:00
  Like,
• 9:01
  I'd
• 9:01
  never
• 9:01
  had
• 9:01
  to
• 9:02
  sing
• 9:02
  that
• 9:02
  long
• 9:02
  all
• 9:03
  on
• 9:03
  my
• 9:03
  own.
• 9:03
  And
• 9:04
  ballads,
• 9:05
  love
• 9:05
  songs,
• 9:06
  though,
• 9:06
  it
• 9:06
  was
• 9:06
  all
• 9:06
  a
• 9:07
  learning
• 9:07
  curve
• 9:07
  for
• 9:07
  me.
• 9:07
  And
• 9:08
  like,
• 9:08
  with
• 9:08
  my
• 9:08
  equipment,
• 9:08
  getting
• 9:09
  there
• 9:09
  early,
• 9:09
  that
• 9:09
  kind
• 9:10
  of
• 9:10
  thing.
• 9:10
  So
• 9:11
  that
• 9:11
  was
• 9:11
  at
• 9:11
  Barton
• 9:12
  Hors,
• 9:12
  anyone
• 9:12
  knows
• 9:12
  Buttonhole.
• 9:13
  And
• 9:13
  I've
• 9:13
  done
• 9:13
  lots
• 9:14
  of
• 9:14
  weddings
• 9:14
  since
• 9:14
  then
• 9:15
  there.
• 9:16
  And
• 9:16
  yeah,
• 9:16
  again,
• 9:17
  it's
• 9:17
  just
• 9:17
  if
• 9:18
  you
• 9:18
  know
• 9:18
  people
• 9:18
  that
• 9:18
  get
• 9:19
  married,
• 9:19
  that's
• 9:19
  a
• 9:19
  great
• 9:20
  way
• 9:20
  to
• 9:20
  start
• 9:20
  because
• 9:21
  you
• 9:21
  can
• 9:21
  give
• 9:21
  your
• 9:21
  services
• 9:22
  for
• 9:22
  free.
• 9:22
  Only
• 9:22
  at
• 9:23
  the
• 9:23
  very
• 9:23
  beginning,
• 9:23
  though,
• 9:24
  because
• 9:25
  you
• 9:25
  have
• 9:25
  to
• 9:25
  make
• 9:25
  money.
• 9:27
  Yeah.
• 9:27
  And
• 9:27
  it
• 9:27
  kind
• 9:28
  of
• 9:28
  snowballed
• 9:28
  from
• 9:28
  there.
• 9:29
  I
• 9:29
  think
• 9:29
  word
• 9:29
  of
• 9:29
  mouth
• 9:30
  is
• 9:30
  my
• 9:30
  big
• 9:31
  thing.
• 9:32
  Recommendations,
• 9:33
  like,
• 9:33
  I'm
• 9:34
  a
• 9:34
  bit
• 9:34
  old
• 9:34
  school
• 9:34
  that
• 9:34
  way.
• 9:35
  That
• 9:35
  seems
• 9:35
  to
• 9:35
  be
• 9:35
  how
• 9:36
  I
• 9:36
  get
• 9:36
  my
• 9:36
  bookings.
• 9:37
  And
• 9:37
  I
• 9:37
  was
• 9:38
  of
• 9:38
  the
• 9:38
  age
• 9:38
  nine
• 9:38
  years
• 9:39
  ago,
• 9:39
  where
• 9:39
  a
• 9:39
  lot
• 9:39
  of
• 9:39
  people
• 9:39
  I
• 9:39
  knew
• 9:40
  were
• 9:40
  getting
• 9:40
  married
• 9:41
  and
• 9:41
  that
• 9:41
  kind
• 9:41
  of
• 9:42
  like
• 9:42
  snowballed.
• 9:43
  Yeah,
• 9:43
  yeah.
• 9:44
  And
• 9:44
  then
• 9:44
  suddenly
• 9:44
  you
• 9:44
  age
• 9:45
  out
• 9:45
  of
• 9:45
  that,
• 9:45
  don't
• 9:45
  you?
• 9:46
  Because
• 9:46
  I
• 9:46
  remember
• 9:46
  there
• 9:46
  was
• 9:46
  about
• 9:47
  a
• 9:47
  decade
• 9:47
  where
• 9:47
  I
• 9:47
  went
• 9:47
  to
• 9:48
  weddings
• 9:48
  every
• 9:49
  single
• 9:49
  summer.
• 9:50
  And
• 9:50
  then
• 9:50
  suddenly
• 9:51
  you're
• 9:51
  like,
• 9:51
  oh,
• 9:52
  now
• 9:52
  all
• 9:52
  my.
• 9:52
  All
• 9:53
  my
• 9:53
  friends
• 9:53
  are
• 9:53
  having
• 9:53
  children.
• 9:54
  Now
• 9:54
  they
• 9:54
  know.
• 9:54
  Maybe
• 9:55
  I
• 9:55
  can
• 9:55
  sing
• 9:55
  at
• 9:55
  christenings
• 9:56
  instead.
• 9:56
  But
• 9:56
  it's
• 9:56
  interesting
• 9:57
  because
• 9:57
  you
• 9:57
  say
• 9:57
  the
• 9:57
  old
• 9:58
  school
• 9:58
  in
• 9:58
  your
• 9:58
  word
• 9:58
  of
• 9:58
  mouth,
• 9:59
  but
• 9:59
  actually
• 9:59
  your
• 9:59
  first
• 10:00
  bookings
• 10:00
  did
• 10:01
  come
• 10:01
  from
• 10:01
  social
• 10:01
  media
• 10:02
  because
• 10:02
  that
• 10:02
  was
• 10:02
  what
• 10:03
  kind
• 10:03
  of
• 10:03
  got
• 10:03
  you
• 10:03
  known
• 10:03
  in
• 10:03
  the
• 10:04
  first
• 10:04
  place.
• 10:04
  So
• 10:04
  it
• 10:04
  is
• 10:04
  a
• 10:04
  bit
• 10:04
  of
• 10:05
  a,
• 10:05
  bit
• 10:05
  of
• 10:05
  both,
• 10:05
  isn't
• 10:05
  it?
• 10:06
  You've
• 10:06
  got
• 10:06
  to
• 10:06
  get
• 10:06
  yourself
• 10:06
  out
• 10:07
  there.
• 10:07
  But
• 10:07
  yeah,
• 10:07
  the
• 10:07
  referral
• 10:08
  is
• 10:08
  absolutely
• 10:08
  important.
• 10:09
  Now
• 10:09
  I
• 10:09
  do
• 10:09
  have
• 10:09
  a
• 10:10
  question
• 10:10
  for
• 10:10
  you,
• 10:10
  but
• 10:10
  this
• 10:11
  is
• 10:11
  a
• 10:11
  very
• 10:11
  specific
• 10:11
  question
• 10:12
  because
• 10:12
  I
• 10:12
  went
• 10:12
  out
• 10:12
  for
• 10:13
  dinner
• 10:13
  on
• 10:13
  Friday
• 10:14
  night
• 10:14
  to
• 10:14
  a
• 10:14
  Thai
• 10:14
  restaurant
• 10:15
  with
• 10:15
  my
• 10:15
  friend
• 10:15
  and
• 10:16
  there
• 10:16
  was
• 10:16
  a
• 10:16
  singer
• 10:16
  in
• 10:17
  Bedford
• 10:17
  singing
• 10:18
  while
• 10:18
  we
• 10:18
  were
• 10:18
  eating
• 10:18
  dinner.
• 10:19
  And
• 10:19
  she
• 10:20
  was
• 10:20
  wonderful,
• 10:20
  really
• 10:20
  good.
• 10:21
  She
• 10:21
  had
• 10:21
  a
• 10:21
  pop
• 10:21
  up
• 10:21
  banner
• 10:21
  and
• 10:22
  she
• 10:22
  was
• 10:22
  singing
• 10:22
  and
• 10:22
  we
• 10:23
  got
• 10:23
  talking
• 10:23
  over
• 10:24
  dinner
• 10:24
  because
• 10:24
  the
• 10:24
  person
• 10:25
  I
• 10:25
  went
• 10:25
  with
• 10:25
  is
• 10:25
  also
• 10:26
  like
• 10:26
  singing
• 10:26
  like
• 10:27
  me.
• 10:27
  We
• 10:27
  were
• 10:27
  saying
• 10:28
  it
• 10:28
  must
• 10:28
  be
• 10:28
  really
• 10:29
  hard
• 10:29
  to
• 10:29
  be
• 10:29
  the
• 10:30
  singer
• 10:30
  when
• 10:30
  you're
• 10:30
  just
• 10:30
  singing
• 10:31
  in
• 10:31
  the
• 10:31
  background
• 10:31
  and
• 10:31
  everyone's
• 10:32
  talking
• 10:32
  over
• 10:32
  the
• 10:32
  top
• 10:32
  of
• 10:32
  you.
• 10:33
  And
• 10:33
  is
• 10:33
  that
• 10:33
  something
• 10:34
  that's
• 10:34
  enjoyable
• 10:34
  or
• 10:34
  is
• 10:35
  that
• 10:35
  something
• 10:35
  that's
• 10:35
  really
• 10:35
  difficult?
• 10:36
  So
• 10:36
  as
• 10:37
  I've
• 10:37
  got
• 10:37
  you
• 10:37
  here,
• 10:37
  I'm
• 10:37
  going
• 10:37
  to
• 10:38
  ask
• 10:38
  you,
• 10:38
  when
• 10:38
  you're
• 10:38
  singing
• 10:38
  at
• 10:38
  drinks,
• 10:39
  receptions
• 10:39
  and
• 10:39
  everyone's
• 10:40
  just
• 10:40
  doing
• 10:40
  their
• 10:40
  own
• 10:41
  thing
• 10:41
  and
• 10:41
  you're
• 10:41
  just
• 10:41
  in
• 10:41
  the
• 10:41
  background,
• 10:42
  do
• 10:42
  you
• 10:43
  enjoy
• 10:43
  that
• 10:43
  or
• 10:44
  is
• 10:44
  it
• 10:44
  a
• 10:44
  weird
• 10:44
  experience
• 10:45
  because
• 10:45
  it's
• 10:45
  very
• 10:45
  different
• 10:46
  to
• 10:46
  standing
• 10:46
  on
• 10:46
  a
• 10:46
  stage
• 10:47
  where
• 10:47
  everyone's
• 10:47
  captivated
• 10:48
  and
• 10:48
  silent
• 10:48
  and
• 10:48
  then
• 10:49
  clapping
• 10:49
  you
• 10:49
  at
• 10:49
  the
• 10:49
  end?
• 10:49
  Yeah,
• 10:50
  I
• 10:50
  absolutely
• 10:50
  love
• 10:51
  it.
• 10:51
  Like,
• 10:52
  I
• 10:52
  love
• 10:52
  people
• 10:52
  watching.
• 10:53
  And
• 10:53
  that
• 10:53
  is
• 10:53
  basically
• 10:54
  what
• 10:54
  you're
• 10:54
  doing.
• 10:54
  You're
• 10:55
  looking
• 10:55
  at
• 10:56
  everybody
• 10:56
  on
• 10:57
  a
• 10:57
  really
• 10:57
  happy
• 10:58
  day.
• 10:58
  Hopefully
• 10:59
  everybody's
• 11:00
  getting
• 11:00
  on,
• 11:01
  people
• 11:01
  look
• 11:02
  at
• 11:02
  you
• 11:02
  and
• 11:02
  they
• 11:03
  kind
• 11:03
  of
• 11:03
  give
• 11:03
  you
• 11:03
  a
• 11:04
  nod.
• 11:04
  As
• 11:04
  in,
• 11:04
  like,
• 11:04
  I
• 11:04
  know
• 11:05
  that
• 11:05
  song,
• 11:05
  like
• 11:05
  I
• 11:05
  really
• 11:06
  appreciate
• 11:06
  that.
• 11:06
  Or
• 11:06
  they
• 11:06
  sing
• 11:07
  along
• 11:07
  and
• 11:07
  they,
• 11:08
  they're
• 11:08
  not
• 11:08
  fully
• 11:09
  engaged.
• 11:09
  But
• 11:09
  that
• 11:09
  takes
• 11:09
  the
• 11:09
  pressure
• 11:10
  off
• 11:10
  you.
• 11:10
  You
• 11:10
  can
• 11:11
  just
• 11:11
  enjoy
• 11:11
  singing
• 11:12
  for
• 11:12
  what
• 11:12
  it
• 11:12
  is
• 11:13
  without
• 11:13
  all
• 11:13
  this
• 11:14
  extra.
• 11:14
  They're
• 11:14
  looking
• 11:15
  at
• 11:15
  me.
• 11:15
  What
• 11:16
  do
• 11:16
  I
• 11:16
  look
• 11:16
  like?
• 11:16
  Was
• 11:16
  it,
• 11:17
  what
• 11:17
  am
• 11:17
  I
• 11:17
  wearing?
• 11:17
  Wherever
• 11:18
  you're
• 11:18
  adding
• 11:19
  an
• 11:19
  atmosphere
• 11:20
  to
• 11:20
  the
• 11:21
  most
• 11:21
  important
• 11:22
  day
• 11:22
  of
• 11:22
  somebody's
• 11:23
  lives
• 11:23
  and
• 11:24
  I
• 11:24
  can
• 11:24
  bring
• 11:24
  joy
• 11:25
  through
• 11:25
  that
• 11:25
  and
• 11:25
  that
• 11:25
  gives
• 11:26
  me
• 11:26
  joy.
• 11:26
  So
• 11:26
  I
• 11:26
  don't
• 11:26
  care
• 11:27
  if
• 11:27
  people
• 11:27
  are
• 11:27
  talking
• 11:27
  over
• 11:28
  me.
• 11:28
  It
• 11:28
  would
• 11:28
  be
• 11:28
  weird
• 11:28
  if
• 11:29
  everybody
• 11:29
  was
• 11:29
  looking.
• 11:31
  I,
• 11:32
  I
• 11:32
  like
• 11:32
  people
• 11:32
  drinking
• 11:33
  their
• 11:33
  drinks
• 11:33
  and
• 11:33
  having
• 11:33
  a
• 11:34
  canopy
• 11:34
  and
• 11:34
  like
• 11:35
  I
• 11:35
  say
• 11:35
  if
• 11:35
  they
• 11:35
  know
• 11:35
  a
• 11:36
  song
• 11:36
  and
• 11:36
  they
• 11:36
  say
• 11:37
  they
• 11:37
  give
• 11:37
  you
• 11:37
  the
• 11:37
  eye,
• 11:37
  like,
• 11:38
  oh,
• 11:38
  good
• 11:38
  choice.
• 11:39
  I'm
• 11:39
  like,
• 11:39
  yes.
• 11:41
  And
• 11:42
  I
• 11:42
  actually,
• 11:42
  I
• 11:42
  can
• 11:42
  imagine
• 11:43
  that
• 11:43
  it
• 11:43
  is
• 11:43
  quite
• 11:43
  nice
• 11:43
  to
• 11:44
  sing
• 11:44
  like
• 11:44
  that
• 11:44
  without
• 11:44
  that
• 11:45
  pressure
• 11:45
  of
• 11:45
  feeling.
• 11:45
  Like
• 11:46
  if
• 11:46
  I
• 11:46
  get
• 11:46
  one
• 11:46
  wrong
• 11:47
  note,
• 11:47
  everyone's
• 11:47
  gonna
• 11:48
  look
• 11:48
  at
• 11:48
  me.
• 11:48
  Or
• 11:48
  if,
• 11:49
  if
• 11:49
  I
• 11:50
  make
• 11:50
  a
• 11:50
  weird
• 11:50
  gesture
• 11:51
  with
• 11:51
  my
• 11:51
  hand
• 11:51
  or
• 11:51
  something
• 11:52
  like
• 11:52
  that,
• 11:52
  it
• 11:52
  definitely
• 11:52
  takes
• 11:53
  the
• 11:53
  pressure
• 11:53
  off
• 11:53
  and,
• 11:54
  well,
• 11:54
  what
• 11:54
  better
• 11:55
  place
• 11:55
  to
• 11:55
  be
• 11:55
  singing
• 11:55
  than
• 11:55
  at
• 11:56
  someone's
• 11:56
  wedding?
• 11:56
  Maybe,
• 11:57
  maybe
• 11:57
  that's
• 11:57
  going
• 11:57
  to
• 11:57
  be
• 11:57
  my
• 11:58
  Retirement
• 11:58
  plan.
• 11:58
  Maybe
• 11:58
  I'll
• 11:59
  go
• 11:59
  into
• 11:59
  wedding
• 11:59
  singing
• 12:00
  as
• 12:00
  well,
• 12:00
  because
• 12:00
  I
• 12:01
  would
• 12:01
  enjoy.
• 12:01
  I'll
• 12:01
  come
• 12:01
  out,
• 12:02
  gonna
• 12:02
  do
• 12:03
  some
• 12:03
  duets.
• 12:04
  Now,
• 12:04
  when
• 12:04
  you
• 12:04
  look
• 12:05
  back
• 12:05
  over
• 12:05
  your
• 12:05
  time
• 12:06
  in
• 12:06
  the
• 12:06
  industry,
• 12:06
  you've
• 12:06
  been
• 12:07
  in
• 12:07
  the
• 12:07
  industry
• 12:07
  a
• 12:07
  long
• 12:08
  time
• 12:08
  now.
• 12:09
  Do
• 12:09
  you
• 12:09
  see
• 12:09
  some
• 12:10
  of
• 12:10
  the
• 12:10
  mistakes
• 12:10
  you
• 12:10
  made
• 12:11
  early
• 12:11
  on?
• 12:11
  Do
• 12:11
  you
• 12:12
  look
• 12:12
  back
• 12:12
  at
• 12:12
  anything
• 12:12
  and
• 12:12
  go,
• 12:13
  I
• 12:13
  don't
• 12:13
  know
• 12:13
  why
• 12:13
  I
• 12:13
  did
• 12:14
  this,
• 12:14
  or
• 12:14
  do
• 12:14
  you
• 12:14
  feel
• 12:14
  like
• 12:14
  you've
• 12:15
  got
• 12:15
  it
• 12:15
  right
• 12:15
  all
• 12:15
  the
• 12:15
  way
• 12:16
  through?
• 12:16
  I
• 12:16
  think
• 12:16
  at
• 12:16
  the
• 12:17
  beginning,
• 12:17
  I
• 12:17
  tried
• 12:18
  to
• 12:18
  remember
• 12:19
  every
• 12:19
  single
• 12:19
  song
• 12:20
  that
• 12:20
  I
• 12:20
  learned.
• 12:21
  So
• 12:21
  imagine
• 12:22
  I'm
• 12:22
  learning
• 12:23
  at
• 12:23
  least
• 12:23
  six
• 12:23
  songs
• 12:24
  sometimes
• 12:24
  a
• 12:25
  wedding.
• 12:25
  And
• 12:25
  if
• 12:25
  you're
• 12:26
  doing
• 12:26
  a
• 12:26
  lot
• 12:26
  of
• 12:26
  weddings
• 12:26
  a
• 12:26
  year,
• 12:27
  that's
• 12:27
  just
• 12:27
  too
• 12:27
  much.
• 12:28
  So
• 12:29
  luckily,
• 12:29
  there's
• 12:30
  a
• 12:30
  thing
• 12:30
  called
• 12:31
  an
• 12:31
  iPad,
• 12:31
  and
• 12:32
  you
• 12:32
  can
• 12:32
  have
• 12:32
  it
• 12:32
  subtly
• 12:33
  to
• 12:33
  the
• 12:33
  side
• 12:33
  of
• 12:33
  you
• 12:34
  and
• 12:35
  look,
• 12:35
  glance
• 12:36
  over
• 12:36
  if
• 12:36
  you
• 12:37
  need
• 12:37
  a
• 12:37
  word
• 12:37
  or
• 12:37
  something
• 12:38
  like
• 12:38
  that,
• 12:38
  because
• 12:38
  everybody
• 12:39
  does
• 12:39
  that.
• 12:39
  Even
• 12:40
  Rod
• 12:40
  Stewart
• 12:40
  does
• 12:40
  that.
• 12:41
  Like,
• 12:41
  everybody,
• 12:42
  like
• 12:43
  big,
• 12:43
  has
• 12:43
  a
• 12:44
  prompt,
• 12:44
  because
• 12:44
  you
• 12:45
  cannot
• 12:45
  learn
• 12:45
  that
• 12:46
  amount
• 12:46
  of
• 12:46
  songs
• 12:47
  and
• 12:47
  make
• 12:47
  it
• 12:48
  special
• 12:48
  for
• 12:48
  that
• 12:48
  couple.
• 12:49
  And,
• 12:49
  yeah,
• 12:50
  so
• 12:50
  I
• 12:50
  probably
• 12:50
  would
• 12:51
  have
• 12:51
  known
• 12:51
  about
• 12:51
  that
• 12:52
  a
• 12:52
  bit
• 12:52
  sooner
• 12:52
  and
• 12:53
  not
• 12:53
  put
• 12:53
  so
• 12:53
  much
• 12:53
  pressure
• 12:53
  on
• 12:54
  myself.
• 12:55
  But,
• 12:55
  yeah,
• 12:55
  that's
• 12:56
  about
• 12:56
  it.
• 12:56
  I
• 12:56
  think.
• 12:56
  I
• 12:56
  think
• 12:57
  I've
• 12:57
  done
• 12:57
  everything
• 12:57
  perfectly
• 12:58
  apart
• 12:58
  from
• 12:58
  that.
• 12:59
  Oh,
• 13:00
  well,
• 13:00
  that's.
• 13:00
  That's
• 13:01
  always
• 13:01
  a
• 13:01
  good
• 13:01
  place
• 13:01
  to
• 13:02
  be
• 13:02
  in.
• 13:02
  And
• 13:02
  I
• 13:02
  think
• 13:02
  it's
• 13:03
  interesting
• 13:03
  because
• 13:03
  you
• 13:03
  do,
• 13:04
  like
• 13:04
  you
• 13:04
  said,
• 13:04
  there's
• 13:04
  no
• 13:05
  template
• 13:05
  at
• 13:05
  the
• 13:05
  beginning.
• 13:06
  And
• 13:06
  actually,
• 13:06
  even
• 13:06
  if
• 13:06
  you're
• 13:06
  in
• 13:06
  a
• 13:07
  part
• 13:07
  of
• 13:07
  the
• 13:07
  industry
• 13:08
  where
• 13:08
  there's
• 13:08
  a
• 13:08
  lot
• 13:08
  of
• 13:08
  other
• 13:08
  people
• 13:09
  doing
• 13:09
  it,
• 13:10
  when
• 13:10
  you
• 13:10
  start
• 13:11
  out,
• 13:11
  you're
• 13:11
  doing
• 13:11
  it
• 13:11
  your
• 13:11
  way
• 13:12
  and
• 13:12
  in
• 13:12
  your
• 13:12
  style
• 13:12
  and
• 13:13
  in
• 13:13
  your
• 13:13
  area,
• 13:13
  and
• 13:13
  it
• 13:14
  is
• 13:14
  hard,
• 13:14
  and
• 13:14
  you
• 13:14
  do
• 13:14
  have
• 13:14
  to
• 13:15
  find
• 13:15
  your
• 13:15
  way
• 13:15
  through.
• 13:15
  And
• 13:16
  there
• 13:16
  are
• 13:16
  ways
• 13:16
  that
• 13:17
  you
• 13:17
  can,
• 13:17
  you
• 13:17
  know,
• 13:18
  read
• 13:18
  books,
• 13:18
  you
• 13:19
  can
• 13:19
  go
• 13:19
  and
• 13:19
  listen
• 13:20
  to
• 13:20
  podcasts
• 13:20
  like
• 13:20
  this
• 13:20
  one,
• 13:21
  and
• 13:21
  you
• 13:21
  can
• 13:21
  try
• 13:21
  and
• 13:21
  learn
• 13:21
  from
• 13:22
  other
• 13:22
  people's
• 13:22
  mistakes,
• 13:23
  but
• 13:23
  ultimately,
• 13:23
  you
• 13:23
  do
• 13:24
  have
• 13:24
  to
• 13:24
  find
• 13:24
  your
• 13:24
  own
• 13:25
  journey
• 13:25
  through.
• 13:25
  I'd
• 13:26
  like
• 13:26
  to
• 13:26
  know
• 13:26
  as
• 13:26
  well,
• 13:27
  are
• 13:27
  there
• 13:27
  ever
• 13:27
  any
• 13:27
  songs
• 13:27
  that
• 13:28
  you
• 13:28
  say
• 13:28
  no
• 13:29
  to
• 13:29
  or
• 13:30
  will
• 13:30
  you
• 13:30
  sing
• 13:30
  anything
• 13:31
  that
• 13:31
  anyone
• 13:31
  asks
• 13:32
  you?
• 13:32
  I
• 13:32
  think
• 13:32
  in
• 13:33
  the
• 13:33
  beginning,
• 13:33
  nine
• 13:33
  years
• 13:34
  ago,
• 13:34
  I
• 13:34
  think
• 13:34
  a
• 13:34
  lot.
• 13:35
  A
• 13:35
  lot
• 13:35
  of
• 13:35
  people
• 13:36
  didn't
• 13:36
  really
• 13:36
  know
• 13:36
  where
• 13:37
  to
• 13:37
  start
• 13:37
  with
• 13:38
  what
• 13:38
  wedding
• 13:39
  songs
• 13:39
  they
• 13:39
  wanted.
• 13:39
  So
• 13:39
  somebody
• 13:40
  did
• 13:40
  ask
• 13:40
  me
• 13:41
  for
• 13:41
  my
• 13:41
  way,
• 13:42
  Frank
• 13:42
  Sinatra.
• 13:43
  And
• 13:43
  I
• 13:43
  was
• 13:43
  like,
• 13:43
  I
• 13:44
  just
• 13:44
  think
• 13:45
  you
• 13:45
  should
• 13:45
  have
• 13:45
  a
• 13:45
  little
• 13:46
  rethink
• 13:46
  about
• 13:46
  this.
• 13:46
  And
• 13:47
  they're
• 13:47
  like,
• 13:47
  but
• 13:47
  they
• 13:47
  say,
• 13:48
  we
• 13:48
  had
• 13:48
  it
• 13:48
  at
• 13:48
  my
• 13:49
  grandma's
• 13:49
  funeral.
• 13:49
  And
• 13:49
  I
• 13:50
  was
• 13:50
  like,
• 13:50
  yes,
• 13:50
  but
• 13:51
  if
• 13:51
  you
• 13:51
  just
• 13:51
  go
• 13:51
  back,
• 13:52
  listen
• 13:52
  to
• 13:52
  the
• 13:52
  words
• 13:53
  it
• 13:53
  says,
• 13:53
  and
• 13:53
  now
• 13:54
  the
• 13:54
  end
• 13:54
  is
• 13:54
  near.
• 13:55
  This
• 13:55
  is
• 13:55
  not
• 13:55
  the
• 13:55
  end.
• 13:56
  This
• 13:56
  is
• 13:56
  the
• 13:56
  beginning
• 13:56
  of
• 13:57
  your
• 13:57
  marriage
• 13:58
  and
• 13:58
  your
• 13:58
  life
• 13:58
  together.
• 13:59
  So
• 13:59
  I
• 13:59
  have
• 13:59
  to
• 13:59
  just.
• 14:00
  I
• 14:00
  had
• 14:00
  to
• 14:01
  just
• 14:01
  subtly
• 14:01
  be
• 14:02
  like,
• 14:02
  let's
• 14:02
  have
• 14:02
  another
• 14:03
  little
• 14:03
  thing.
• 14:03
  Give
• 14:03
  some
• 14:03
  suggestions.
• 14:04
  You
• 14:04
  want
• 14:05
  the
• 14:05
  lyrics
• 14:05
  of
• 14:06
  the
• 14:06
  main
• 14:06
  thing
• 14:07
  when
• 14:07
  it
• 14:07
  comes
• 14:07
  to
• 14:07
  song.
• 14:07
  Yes,
• 14:08
  the
• 14:08
  melody
• 14:08
  might
• 14:08
  be
• 14:08
  nice,
• 14:09
  but
• 14:09
  you
• 14:09
  don't
• 14:09
  want
• 14:09
  Adele
• 14:10
  playing
• 14:10
  at
• 14:10
  your
• 14:10
  wedding,
• 14:11
  really,
• 14:11
  because
• 14:11
  a
• 14:11
  lot
• 14:11
  of
• 14:12
  it's
• 14:12
  a
• 14:12
  breakup
• 14:12
  song.
• 14:13
  So
• 14:14
  I
• 14:14
  won't
• 14:14
  not
• 14:14
  do
• 14:15
  it.
• 14:15
  I
• 14:15
  just
• 14:15
  suggest
• 14:16
  maybe
• 14:17
  we
• 14:17
  should
• 14:17
  do
• 14:17
  this.
• 14:17
  And
• 14:18
  nowadays
• 14:18
  there's
• 14:19
  so
• 14:19
  much
• 14:19
  on.
• 14:19
  There's
• 14:20
  so
• 14:20
  many
• 14:20
  people
• 14:20
  doing
• 14:21
  covers
• 14:21
  of
• 14:21
  love
• 14:21
  songs
• 14:22
  and
• 14:22
  it's.
• 14:23
  It's
• 14:23
  more
• 14:23
  readily
• 14:24
  available
• 14:24
  and
• 14:25
  of
• 14:25
  the
• 14:25
  time
• 14:25
  people
• 14:25
  pick
• 14:26
  lovely
• 14:26
  songs.
• 14:27
  A
• 14:27
  lot
• 14:27
  of
• 14:27
  the
• 14:27
  time
• 14:27
  people
• 14:28
  pick
• 14:29
  Can't
• 14:29
  Help
• 14:29
  Falling
• 14:29
  in
• 14:30
  Love,
• 14:30
  the
• 14:30
  Haley
• 14:30
  Reinhart
• 14:31
  version
• 14:31
  by
• 14:32
  Elvis
• 14:32
  Presley.
• 14:33
  You
• 14:33
  know
• 14:33
  that
• 14:33
  similar,
• 14:34
  similar
• 14:34
  sort
• 14:35
  of
• 14:35
  songs,
• 14:35
  because
• 14:35
  they
• 14:35
  are
• 14:36
  so
• 14:36
  good
• 14:36
  and
• 14:36
  they're.
• 14:37
  The
• 14:38
  words
• 14:38
  do
• 14:38
  lend
• 14:39
  themselves
• 14:39
  so
• 14:39
  well
• 14:39
  to
• 14:40
  a
• 14:40
  wedding.
• 14:40
  But
• 14:40
  yeah,
• 14:41
  I
• 14:41
  won't
• 14:41
  not
• 14:41
  do
• 14:42
  anything.
• 14:42
  I
• 14:43
  think
• 14:43
  so.
• 14:43
  I
• 14:43
  think
• 14:44
  I
• 14:44
  haven't
• 14:44
  said.
• 14:44
  But
• 14:44
  I
• 14:45
  also
• 14:45
  have
• 14:45
  a
• 14:45
  band
• 14:46
  in
• 14:47
  the
• 14:47
  evening
• 14:47
  and
• 14:47
  you
• 14:48
  know,
• 14:48
  we've
• 14:48
  played
• 14:48
  all
• 14:48
  sorts
• 14:49
  of
• 14:49
  things.
• 14:49
  So
• 14:50
  yeah,
• 14:50
  anything
• 14:51
  goes
• 14:51
  really.
• 14:51
  But
• 14:51
  you
• 14:51
  have
• 14:52
  to
• 14:52
  really
• 14:52
  think
• 14:52
  about
• 14:52
  the
• 14:53
  setting
• 14:53
  and
• 14:53
  the
• 14:54
  atmosphere.
• 14:55
  Yeah.
• 14:56
  And
• 14:56
  absolutely
• 14:57
  advising
• 14:57
  them
• 14:57
  on
• 14:58
  the
• 14:58
  right
• 14:58
  thing.
• 14:58
  I've
• 14:58
  probably
• 14:59
  shared
• 14:59
  this
• 14:59
  on
• 14:59
  the
• 14:59
  podcast
• 14:59
  before,
• 15:00
  but
• 15:00
  once
• 15:00
  I
• 15:00
  went
• 15:00
  to
• 15:00
  a
• 15:01
  wedding
• 15:01
  and
• 15:01
  they
• 15:01
  had
• 15:01
  this
• 15:01
  great
• 15:01
  idea
• 15:02
  where
• 15:02
  the
• 15:02
  guests
• 15:03
  were
• 15:03
  going
• 15:03
  to
• 15:03
  be
• 15:03
  the
• 15:03
  dj
• 15:03
  and
• 15:04
  so
• 15:04
  they
• 15:04
  had
• 15:04
  this
• 15:04
  machine
• 15:05
  where
• 15:05
  you
• 15:05
  could
• 15:05
  go
• 15:05
  and
• 15:06
  add
• 15:06
  songs
• 15:06
  to
• 15:06
  it
• 15:06
  and
• 15:06
  then
• 15:07
  they
• 15:07
  played
• 15:07
  over
• 15:07
  the
• 15:07
  speaker.
• 15:08
  But
• 15:08
  within
• 15:08
  about
• 15:09
  10
• 15:09
  minutes
• 15:09
  of
• 15:09
  this
• 15:09
  machine
• 15:10
  going
• 15:10
  live,
• 15:11
  what
• 15:11
  do
• 15:11
  guests
• 15:11
  do,
• 15:12
  especially
• 15:12
  when
• 15:12
  they're
• 15:12
  drunk
• 15:12
  at
• 15:13
  wedding,
• 15:13
  start
• 15:13
  putting
• 15:14
  on
• 15:14
  all
• 15:14
  the
• 15:14
  breakup
• 15:15
  songs
• 15:15
  or
• 15:15
  the
• 15:16
  inappropriate
• 15:16
  songs.
• 15:17
  And
• 15:17
  like
• 15:17
  within
• 15:17
  10
• 15:18
  minutes
• 15:18
  it
• 15:18
  was
• 15:18
  like,
• 15:19
  this
• 15:19
  was
• 15:19
  not
• 15:19
  the
• 15:20
  idea
• 15:20
  that
• 15:20
  you
• 15:20
  thought
• 15:20
  it
• 15:20
  was
• 15:21
  going
• 15:21
  to.
• 15:21
  Going
• 15:21
  to
• 15:21
  be.
• 15:22
  So,
• 15:22
  yeah,
• 15:22
  I
• 15:22
  think
• 15:23
  when
• 15:23
  we
• 15:23
  have
• 15:23
  experience
• 15:24
  in
• 15:24
  weddings
• 15:24
  and
• 15:24
  the
• 15:25
  things
• 15:25
  we
• 15:25
  can
• 15:25
  have
• 15:26
  these
• 15:26
  great
• 15:26
  ideas
• 15:26
  that
• 15:26
  this
• 15:27
  is
• 15:27
  a
• 15:27
  great
• 15:27
  song
• 15:27
  to
• 15:27
  have.
• 15:28
  But
• 15:28
  actually
• 15:28
  the
• 15:28
  reality
• 15:29
  can
• 15:29
  be
• 15:29
  very,
• 15:29
  very
• 15:30
  different.
• 15:30
  When
• 15:31
  you
• 15:31
  look
• 15:31
  now,
• 15:31
  obviously
• 15:32
  things
• 15:32
  have
• 15:32
  changed.
• 15:32
  Facebook
• 15:33
  isn't
• 15:33
  such
• 15:34
  a
• 15:34
  big
• 15:34
  deal
• 15:34
  anymore.
• 15:35
  You
• 15:35
  know,
• 15:36
  now
• 15:36
  it's
• 15:36
  all
• 15:36
  about
• 15:36
  Instagram.
• 15:36
  It's
• 15:37
  about
• 15:37
  tick
• 15:37
  tock.
• 15:37
  When
• 15:38
  you
• 15:38
  look
• 15:38
  at
• 15:38
  your
• 15:38
  inquiries
• 15:39
  now
• 15:40
  for
• 15:40
  both
• 15:40
  your
• 15:40
  wedding
• 15:41
  singing
• 15:41
  business
• 15:41
  and
• 15:42
  your
• 15:42
  band.
• 15:42
  Where
• 15:43
  do
• 15:43
  you
• 15:43
  think
• 15:43
  most
• 15:43
  of
• 15:44
  them
• 15:44
  come
• 15:44
  from?
• 15:44
  If
• 15:45
  you
• 15:45
  were
• 15:45
  to
• 15:45
  look
• 15:45
  at
• 15:45
  what
• 15:46
  you've
• 15:46
  got.
• 15:46
  But
• 15:46
  for
• 15:46
  2025,
• 15:47
  I
• 15:47
  think
• 15:48
  still
• 15:48
  they.
• 15:49
  Come
• 15:49
  mainly
• 15:50
  from
• 15:50
  being
• 15:50
  recommended
• 15:51
  at
• 15:51
  venues,
• 15:52
  luckily
• 15:53
  for
• 15:53
  me.
• 15:54
  Or
• 15:54
  word
• 15:54
  of
• 15:54
  mouth.
• 15:55
  Or
• 15:55
  Instagram.
• 15:57
  Yeah.
• 15:57
  Being
• 15:58
  a
• 15:58
  recommended
• 15:58
  supplier
• 15:59
  at
• 15:59
  Dodvan
• 15:59
  Manor.
• 16:00
  So
• 16:00
  that's
• 16:00
  like
• 16:01
  my
• 16:01
  main
• 16:02
  wedding
• 16:02
  venue.
• 16:02
  And
• 16:03
  I
• 16:03
  got
• 16:03
  on
• 16:03
  their
• 16:03
  recommended
• 16:04
  supplies,
• 16:04
  really
• 16:04
  luckily,
• 16:05
  like
• 16:05
  about
• 16:05
  Nine
• 16:05
  years
• 16:05
  ago.
• 16:06
  And
• 16:06
  then
• 16:06
  my
• 16:06
  band
• 16:06
  did
• 16:06
  as
• 16:07
  well.
• 16:07
  We
• 16:07
  came
• 16:07
  and
• 16:07
  auditioned
• 16:08
  sort
• 16:08
  of
• 16:08
  thing.
• 16:08
  They
• 16:09
  recommend
• 16:10
  us
• 16:10
  because
• 16:10
  they
• 16:10
  know
• 16:10
  that
• 16:10
  we
• 16:11
  do
• 16:11
  a
• 16:11
  good
• 16:11
  job.
• 16:12
  They
• 16:12
  know
• 16:12
  that
• 16:12
  I
• 16:13
  do
• 16:13
  a
• 16:13
  good
• 16:13
  job.
• 16:13
  They
• 16:13
  like
• 16:14
  me
• 16:14
  as
• 16:14
  well.
• 16:14
  I
• 16:14
  think
• 16:14
  being
• 16:15
  likable
• 16:16
  is
• 16:16
  a
• 16:16
  big
• 16:16
  thing
• 16:16
  in
• 16:16
  this
• 16:17
  industry
• 16:17
  that
• 16:17
  nobody
• 16:17
  wants
• 16:18
  to
• 16:18
  work
• 16:18
  with
• 16:18
  somebody
• 16:18
  that's
• 16:18
  a
• 16:18
  diva.
• 16:19
  Nobody
• 16:19
  wants
• 16:20
  to
• 16:20
  work
• 16:20
  with
• 16:20
  somebody
• 16:20
  that's
• 16:21
  not
• 16:21
  going
• 16:21
  to
• 16:21
  help
• 16:21
  you
• 16:22
  in
• 16:22
  the
• 16:22
  running
• 16:22
  of
• 16:22
  the
• 16:23
  day,
• 16:23
  like
• 16:23
  being
• 16:24
  flexible,
• 16:25
  that
• 16:25
  kind
• 16:25
  of
• 16:25
  thing.
• 16:25
  So
• 16:26
  yeah,
• 16:26
  being
• 16:26
  recommended
• 16:27
  by
• 16:27
  certain
• 16:28
  venues,
• 16:28
  that's
• 16:29
  really
• 16:29
  helped
• 16:30
  me.
• 16:30
  And
• 16:31
  then
• 16:31
  maybe
• 16:32
  somebody
• 16:32
  sees
• 16:32
  me
• 16:33
  at
• 16:33
  that
• 16:33
  wedding
• 16:33
  and
• 16:33
  then
• 16:33
  they
• 16:34
  tell
• 16:34
  their
• 16:34
  friend
• 16:34
  about
• 16:34
  it
• 16:35
  and
• 16:35
  then
• 16:35
  their
• 16:35
  friend
• 16:35
  tells
• 16:36
  me.
• 16:36
  And
• 16:36
  there
• 16:36
  was
• 16:36
  at
• 16:36
  one
• 16:36
  point,
• 16:37
  one
• 16:37
  summer,
• 16:37
  I
• 16:38
  think
• 16:38
  it's
• 16:38
  after
• 16:38
  Covid
• 16:39
  and
• 16:39
  I
• 16:40
  had
• 16:40
  about
• 16:40
  four
• 16:40
  weddings
• 16:41
  in
• 16:41
  a
• 16:41
  row.
• 16:41
  I
• 16:41
  kept
• 16:41
  seeing
• 16:42
  the
• 16:42
  same
• 16:42
  guest
• 16:42
  as
• 16:42
  a
• 16:43
  hi
• 16:43
  again
• 16:44
  because
• 16:45
  not
• 16:45
  all
• 16:45
  of
• 16:46
  the
• 16:46
  same
• 16:46
  guests,
• 16:46
  but
• 16:46
  just
• 16:46
  like
• 16:47
  one.
• 16:47
  Yeah.
• 16:47
  So
• 16:47
  that's
• 16:48
  mainly
• 16:48
  recommended
• 16:50
  supplier
• 16:50
  at
• 16:50
  venues,
• 16:51
  sometimes
• 16:52
  Instagram.
• 16:52
  So
• 16:53
  they
• 16:53
  find
• 16:53
  me
• 16:54
  maybe
• 16:54
  a
• 16:54
  video
• 16:54
  I've
• 16:55
  posted
• 16:55
  of
• 16:55
  me
• 16:55
  singing
• 16:56
  and
• 16:56
  things
• 16:56
  like
• 16:57
  that.
• 16:57
  Yeah,
• 16:58
  mainly
• 16:59
  there'll
• 16:59
  be
• 16:59
  people
• 16:59
  listening
• 17:00
  and
• 17:00
  thinking
• 17:01
  I
• 17:01
  want
• 17:01
  to
• 17:01
  be
• 17:02
  like
• 17:02
  that.
• 17:02
  I
• 17:02
  want
• 17:02
  to
• 17:02
  be
• 17:02
  able
• 17:03
  to
• 17:03
  say
• 17:03
  I'm
• 17:03
  recommended
• 17:04
  at
• 17:04
  loads
• 17:04
  of
• 17:04
  venues.
• 17:04
  Because
• 17:05
  that
• 17:05
  is
• 17:05
  a
• 17:05
  sticking
• 17:05
  point
• 17:05
  for
• 17:06
  people.
• 17:06
  People
• 17:06
  have
• 17:06
  that
• 17:07
  as
• 17:07
  the
• 17:07
  kind
• 17:07
  of
• 17:07
  goal.
• 17:08
  But
• 17:08
  it's
• 17:09
  not
• 17:09
  always
• 17:10
  as
• 17:10
  easy
• 17:10
  as
• 17:11
  just
• 17:11
  being
• 17:11
  recommended.
• 17:12
  Do
• 17:12
  you
• 17:12
  remember
• 17:12
  back
• 17:13
  how
• 17:13
  you
• 17:14
  have
• 17:14
  gone
• 17:14
  about
• 17:14
  getting
• 17:15
  recommended
• 17:15
  by
• 17:15
  those
• 17:16
  venues?
• 17:16
  Is
• 17:16
  it
• 17:16
  where
• 17:16
  you've
• 17:17
  performed
• 17:17
  there
• 17:17
  and
• 17:17
  then
• 17:18
  they've
• 17:18
  liked
• 17:18
  you?
• 17:18
  Have
• 17:18
  you
• 17:18
  approached
• 17:19
  them,
• 17:19
  tell
• 17:20
  us
• 17:20
  about
• 17:20
  how
• 17:20
  that's
• 17:21
  happened
• 17:21
  for
• 17:21
  you?
• 17:21
  I
• 17:22
  think,
• 17:22
  do
• 17:22
  you
• 17:22
  know
• 17:22
  what?
• 17:22
  It's
• 17:23
  changed
• 17:23
  a
• 17:23
  lot
• 17:23
  recently
• 17:24
  as
• 17:24
  well.
• 17:24
  Because
• 17:24
  I
• 17:25
  can
• 17:25
  see
• 17:25
  people
• 17:25
  being
• 17:26
  recommended
• 17:26
  at
• 17:26
  venues
• 17:27
  that
• 17:27
  haven't
• 17:27
  even
• 17:28
  done
• 17:28
  weddings
• 17:28
  there.
• 17:29
  So
• 17:29
  they
• 17:29
  might
• 17:29
  do
• 17:29
  an
• 17:29
  open
• 17:30
  day
• 17:30
  for
• 17:30
  them
• 17:30
  and
• 17:30
  then
• 17:31
  they
• 17:31
  ask
• 17:31
  if
• 17:31
  they
• 17:31
  can
• 17:32
  be
• 17:32
  a
• 17:32
  wedding
• 17:33
  recommended,
• 17:34
  which
• 17:34
  I
• 17:34
  would
• 17:34
  never
• 17:35
  have
• 17:35
  done
• 17:35
  years
• 17:36
  ago.
• 17:36
  You
• 17:36
  just
• 17:36
  wouldn't
• 17:37
  have
• 17:37
  asked
• 17:37
  that.
• 17:37
  You
• 17:37
  wait
• 17:38
  to
• 17:38
  be
• 17:38
  asked.
• 17:39
  So
• 17:39
  I
• 17:39
  think
• 17:40
  it
• 17:40
  is
• 17:40
  changing
• 17:41
  and
• 17:41
  maybe
• 17:42
  you
• 17:42
  do
• 17:42
  need
• 17:42
  to
• 17:42
  ask
• 17:42
  now
• 17:43
  because
• 17:43
  there'd
• 17:43
  be
• 17:43
  venues
• 17:43
  I've
• 17:44
  worked
• 17:44
  at
• 17:44
  a
• 17:44
  lot
• 17:44
  and
• 17:44
  I'm
• 17:45
  like,
• 17:45
  oh,
• 17:45
  I'm
• 17:45
  not
• 17:45
  recommended.
• 17:46
  And
• 17:46
  then
• 17:46
  I
• 17:46
  asked
• 17:46
  them,
• 17:47
  they're
• 17:47
  like,
• 17:47
  oh,
• 17:47
  you
• 17:47
  are.
• 17:47
  And
• 17:48
  I'm
• 17:48
  like,
• 17:48
  okay.
• 17:49
  So
• 17:49
  sometimes
• 17:49
  nowadays
• 17:50
  it
• 17:50
  is
• 17:50
  worth
• 17:50
  an
• 17:51
  ass.
• 17:51
  Back
• 17:51
  then
• 17:51
  it
• 17:51
  wasn't
• 17:53
  so
• 17:53
  for
• 17:54
  in
• 17:54
  question.
• 17:54
  I
• 17:55
  had
• 17:55
  to
• 17:55
  go
• 17:55
  and
• 17:55
  audition
• 17:56
  if
• 17:56
  you
• 17:56
  like
• 17:57
  and
• 17:58
  see
• 17:58
  if
• 17:58
  they
• 17:58
  like
• 17:58
  me.
• 17:59
  And
• 17:59
  also
• 17:59
  if
• 17:59
  we
• 17:59
  fit
• 17:59
  in
• 18:00
  their
• 18:00
  sound
• 18:00
  regulations.
• 18:02
  And
• 18:02
  then
• 18:03
  other
• 18:03
  venues.
• 18:04
  Yeah,
• 18:04
  just
• 18:04
  doing
• 18:04
  open
• 18:05
  days
• 18:05
  for
• 18:05
  people
• 18:06
  because
• 18:06
  although
• 18:06
  it
• 18:07
  is
• 18:07
  good
• 18:07
  for
• 18:07
  you,
• 18:07
  for
• 18:07
  your
• 18:08
  business,
• 18:08
  it's
• 18:08
  also
• 18:08
  helping
• 18:09
  them.
• 18:09
  It
• 18:10
  makes
• 18:10
  their
• 18:10
  Venue,
• 18:10
  have
• 18:11
  an
• 18:11
  atmosphere
• 18:11
  or
• 18:11
  if
• 18:11
  you're
• 18:12
  like
• 18:12
  a
• 18:13
  venue
• 18:13
  dresser,
• 18:14
  like,
• 18:14
  makes
• 18:14
  their
• 18:14
  venue
• 18:15
  look
• 18:15
  lovely.
• 18:16
  Open
• 18:17
  evenings.
• 18:17
  I
• 18:17
  also,
• 18:17
  I'm
• 18:18
  going
• 18:18
  to
• 18:18
  sing
• 18:18
  an
• 18:18
  open
• 18:18
  evening
• 18:19
  on
• 18:19
  Friday
• 18:20
  night
• 18:20
  at
• 18:20
  Horp
• 18:21
  and
• 18:21
  I've
• 18:22
  got
• 18:22
  a
• 18:22
  taster
• 18:23
  day
• 18:23
  on
• 18:23
  at
• 18:24
  Dodford
• 18:24
  on
• 18:24
  Sunday.
• 18:25
  So
• 18:25
  you
• 18:25
  do
• 18:25
  have
• 18:25
  to
• 18:26
  do
• 18:26
  a
• 18:26
  lot
• 18:26
  of
• 18:27
  work
• 18:27
  that
• 18:27
  is
• 18:28
  perhaps
• 18:28
  unpaid,
• 18:29
  but
• 18:29
  you're
• 18:30
  helping
• 18:30
  the
• 18:30
  venue,
• 18:30
  you're
• 18:31
  helping
• 18:31
  yourself,
• 18:32
  you're
• 18:32
  making
• 18:32
  those
• 18:32
  connections.
• 18:33
  You're
• 18:33
  also
• 18:33
  in
• 18:34
  a
• 18:34
  more
• 18:34
  relaxed
• 18:34
  environment
• 18:35
  than
• 18:35
  on
• 18:35
  a
• 18:35
  wedding
• 18:35
  day
• 18:35
  when
• 18:35
  everything
• 18:36
  is
• 18:36
  very
• 18:36
  high
• 18:36
  pressured
• 18:37
  and
• 18:37
  your
• 18:38
  personality
• 18:38
  can
• 18:38
  come
• 18:38
  out,
• 18:39
  theirs
• 18:39
  can
• 18:39
  come
• 18:39
  out.
• 18:40
  And
• 18:40
  yeah,
• 18:41
  that,
• 18:41
  that's,
• 18:41
  that's
• 18:41
  generally
• 18:42
  how
• 18:42
  I
• 18:42
  just.
• 18:42
  Being
• 18:43
  a
• 18:43
  nice
• 18:43
  person,
• 18:43
  that's
• 18:43
  gonna
• 18:44
  sound
• 18:44
  so
• 18:44
  lame.
• 18:45
  But
• 18:45
  I,
• 18:46
  I
• 18:46
  do
• 18:46
  think
• 18:46
  that
• 18:46
  goes
• 18:47
  a
• 18:47
  long
• 18:47
  way.
• 18:47
  You,
• 18:48
  you
• 18:48
  want
• 18:48
  to
• 18:48
  work
• 18:48
  like
• 18:48
  there's
• 18:49
  photographers
• 18:49
  I've
• 18:49
  worked
• 18:49
  with,
• 18:49
  I've
• 18:50
  worked
• 18:50
  with
• 18:50
  the
• 18:50
  best
• 18:50
  photographers
• 18:50
  I've
• 18:51
  worked
• 18:51
  with,
• 18:51
  you
• 18:51
  know,
• 18:51
  a
• 18:52
  range
• 18:52
  of
• 18:52
  photographers.
• 18:53
  But
• 18:53
  the
• 18:53
  ones
• 18:54
  you
• 18:54
  remember,
• 18:54
  the
• 18:54
  ones
• 18:54
  you
• 18:54
  get
• 18:54
  on
• 18:55
  with
• 18:55
  sometimes.
• 18:57
  Yeah,
• 18:57
  absolutely.
• 18:58
  And
• 18:58
  it
• 18:58
  is
• 18:58
  not
• 18:58
  lame
• 18:59
  at
• 18:59
  all
• 18:59
  because
• 18:59
  I
• 18:59
  talk
• 18:59
  about
• 19:00
  it
• 19:00
  on
• 19:00
  the
• 19:00
  podcast
• 19:00
  all
• 19:00
  the
• 19:00
  time
• 19:01
  about
• 19:01
  being
• 19:01
  a
• 19:01
  good
• 19:01
  person.
• 19:02
  Because
• 19:02
  you
• 19:02
  are
• 19:03
  surprised
• 19:03
  how
• 19:04
  many
• 19:04
  people
• 19:04
  you
• 19:04
  come
• 19:04
  across
• 19:05
  who
• 19:05
  are
• 19:05
  not
• 19:06
  like
• 19:06
  the.
• 19:07
  And
• 19:07
  you
• 19:08
  know,
• 19:08
  I,
• 19:08
  I
• 19:08
  live
• 19:08
  in
• 19:08
  this
• 19:09
  happy
• 19:09
  world
• 19:09
  where
• 19:09
  I'm
• 19:09
  like,
• 19:09
  well,
• 19:10
  everyone's
• 19:10
  a
• 19:10
  nice
• 19:10
  person
• 19:11
  and
• 19:11
  everyone's
• 19:11
  a
• 19:11
  good
• 19:11
  supplier
• 19:12
  and
• 19:12
  everyone's
• 19:12
  ethical
• 19:13
  and
• 19:13
  everyone
• 19:13
  does
• 19:14
  things
• 19:14
  the
• 19:14
  right
• 19:14
  way.
• 19:15
  And
• 19:15
  we
• 19:16
  quickly
• 19:16
  realize
• 19:16
  that
• 19:16
  that's
• 19:17
  not
• 19:17
  true.
• 19:17
  And
• 19:17
  so
• 19:18
  when
• 19:18
  we
• 19:18
  are
• 19:18
  the
• 19:18
  people
• 19:18
  doing
• 19:19
  that,
• 19:19
  you
• 19:19
  are
• 19:19
  a
• 19:19
  shining
• 19:20
  light
• 19:20
  and
• 19:20
  you
• 19:20
  are
• 19:20
  more
• 19:20
  likely
• 19:21
  to
• 19:21
  stand
• 19:22
  out.
• 19:22
  And
• 19:22
  I
• 19:22
  think
• 19:22
  it's
• 19:23
  interesting
• 19:23
  because
• 19:23
  you
• 19:23
  say
• 19:24
  about
• 19:24
  doing
• 19:24
  things
• 19:24
  for
• 19:25
  free
• 19:25
  and
• 19:26
  you
• 19:26
  will
• 19:26
  know
• 19:26
  that
• 19:27
  I'm
• 19:27
  a
• 19:27
  big
• 19:27
  advocate
• 19:27
  of
• 19:28
  not
• 19:28
  undervaluing
• 19:29
  yourself
• 19:29
  and
• 19:29
  not
• 19:29
  charging
• 19:30
  too
• 19:30
  little
• 19:30
  and
• 19:31
  not
• 19:31
  discounting
• 19:31
  and
• 19:31
  all
• 19:31
  that
• 19:31
  kind
• 19:32
  of
• 19:32
  thing.
• 19:32
  But
• 19:32
  I
• 19:32
  do
• 19:32
  think
• 19:33
  there's
• 19:33
  a
• 19:33
  big
• 19:33
  difference
• 19:34
  because
• 19:34
  it's
• 19:34
  not
• 19:34
  that
• 19:34
  you're
• 19:35
  doing
• 19:35
  it
• 19:35
  for
• 19:35
  free,
• 19:36
  it's
• 19:36
  a
• 19:36
  exchange
• 19:37
  of
• 19:37
  services
• 19:37
  because
• 19:38
  that
• 19:39
  by
• 19:39
  doing
• 19:39
  that
• 19:39
  event,
• 19:40
  it
• 19:40
  will
• 19:41
  likely
• 19:42
  lead
• 19:42
  to
• 19:43
  decent
• 19:43
  amounts
• 19:43
  of
• 19:44
  money
• 19:44
  in
• 19:44
  the
• 19:44
  future.
• 19:45
  So
• 19:45
  I
• 19:45
  think
• 19:45
  it
• 19:45
  is
• 19:45
  important
• 19:45
  that
• 19:46
  we
• 19:46
  don't
• 19:46
  have
• 19:46
  a
• 19:46
  black
• 19:46
  and
• 19:47
  white
• 19:47
  or
• 19:47
  I'm
• 19:47
  never
• 19:47
  doing
• 19:47
  anything
• 19:48
  for
• 19:48
  free.
• 19:48
  Becca
• 19:48
  says
• 19:48
  to
• 19:49
  value
• 19:49
  herself
• 19:49
  because
• 19:50
  actually,
• 19:50
  yeah,
• 19:50
  you
• 19:50
  shouldn't
• 19:51
  go
• 19:51
  out
• 19:51
  and
• 19:51
  do
• 19:51
  a
• 19:51
  wedding
• 19:51
  for
• 19:52
  free
• 19:52
  every
• 19:52
  week.
• 19:53
  But
• 19:53
  if
• 19:53
  there
• 19:54
  is
• 19:54
  a
• 19:54
  genuine
• 19:54
  exchange
• 19:55
  of
• 19:55
  services
• 19:55
  and
• 19:56
  you're
• 19:56
  not
• 19:56
  being
• 19:56
  taken
• 19:56
  advantage
• 19:57
  of
• 19:57
  and
• 19:57
  you
• 19:57
  know,
• 19:58
  I'm
• 19:58
  going
• 19:58
  to
• 19:58
  go
• 19:58
  and
• 19:59
  sing
• 19:59
  at
• 19:59
  this
• 19:59
  event,
• 19:59
  or
• 20:00
  you
• 20:00
  came
• 20:00
  and
• 20:00
  sang
• 20:00
  at
• 20:00
  my
• 20:01
  event,
• 20:01
  which
• 20:01
  I
• 20:01
  loved
• 20:02
  because
• 20:02
  you
• 20:02
  really
• 20:02
  added
• 20:02
  to
• 20:02
  the
• 20:03
  atmosphere.
• 20:03
  And
• 20:04
  then
• 20:04
  you
• 20:04
  think,
• 20:04
  well,
• 20:04
  well
• 20:04
  I
• 20:05
  know
• 20:05
  that
• 20:05
  off
• 20:05
  the
• 20:05
  back
• 20:05
  of
• 20:05
  that
• 20:05
  I'll
• 20:06
  get
• 20:06
  PR
• 20:06
  or
• 20:06
  I'll
• 20:07
  meet
• 20:07
  new
• 20:07
  people
• 20:08
  or
• 20:08
  the
• 20:08
  venue
• 20:09
  will
• 20:09
  recommend
• 20:09
  me,
• 20:10
  then
• 20:10
  actually
• 20:11
  it's
• 20:11
  definitely
• 20:12
  worth
• 20:12
  doing.
• 20:12
  So
• 20:12
  I
• 20:12
  think
• 20:13
  that's
• 20:13
  just
• 20:13
  a
• 20:13
  message
• 20:13
  to
• 20:13
  anyone
• 20:14
  listening
• 20:14
  that
• 20:14
  it's
• 20:15
  not
• 20:15
  very
• 20:15
  black
• 20:15
  and
• 20:15
  white.
• 20:16
  It's
• 20:16
  not
• 20:16
  never
• 20:16
  do
• 20:16
  anything
• 20:17
  for
• 20:17
  free.
• 20:17
  But
• 20:17
  when
• 20:18
  you
• 20:18
  are
• 20:18
  asked
• 20:18
  to
• 20:18
  do
• 20:19
  things
• 20:19
  for
• 20:19
  free,
• 20:19
  you've
• 20:19
  got
• 20:19
  to
• 20:20
  weigh
• 20:20
  it
• 20:20
  up
• 20:20
  and
• 20:20
  work
• 20:20
  out
• 20:21
  if
• 20:21
  it's
• 20:21
  the
• 20:21
  right
• 20:21
  thing
• 20:21
  to
• 20:22
  do
• 20:22
  or
• 20:22
  not.
• 20:23
  And
• 20:23
  in
• 20:23
  this
• 20:23
  case
• 20:24
  I
• 20:24
  think
• 20:24
  it
• 20:24
  absolutely
• 20:25
  is.
• 20:25
  And
• 20:25
  I've
• 20:25
  shared
• 20:26
  the
• 20:26
  story
• 20:26
  before
• 20:26
  of
• 20:27
  Dom
• 20:27
  the
• 20:27
  saxophone
• 20:28
  player
• 20:28
  who
• 20:29
  went
• 20:29
  round
• 20:29
  to
• 20:30
  all
• 20:30
  the
• 20:30
  open
• 20:30
  days
• 20:30
  when
• 20:31
  he
• 20:31
  first
• 20:31
  started
• 20:31
  and
• 20:31
  offered
• 20:32
  to
• 20:32
  play
• 20:32
  saxophone
• 20:33
  at
• 20:33
  the
• 20:33
  open
• 20:33
  days
• 20:34
  and
• 20:34
  he
• 20:34
  got
• 20:34
  on
• 20:34
  so
• 20:35
  many
• 20:35
  recommended
• 20:35
  supplier
• 20:36
  lists
• 20:37
  just
• 20:37
  because
• 20:37
  he
• 20:38
  offered
• 20:38
  to
• 20:38
  go
• 20:38
  and
• 20:38
  do
• 20:38
  it
• 20:39
  for
• 20:39
  free.
• 20:39
  And
• 20:39
  so
• 20:39
  it
• 20:40
  was
• 20:40
  definitely
• 20:40
  worth
• 20:40
  his
• 20:41
  time.
• 20:41
  Now,
• 20:41
  you
• 20:42
  mentioned
• 20:42
  earlier
• 20:42
  about
• 20:43
  how
• 20:43
  when
• 20:43
  you
• 20:43
  came
• 20:44
  out
• 20:44
  of
• 20:44
  the
• 20:44
  industry
• 20:45
  and
• 20:45
  set
• 20:45
  up
• 20:45
  your
• 20:46
  own
• 20:46
  business,
• 20:46
  one
• 20:46
  of
• 20:46
  the
• 20:46
  things
• 20:47
  you
• 20:47
  wanted
• 20:47
  to
• 20:47
  be
• 20:47
  able
• 20:47
  to
• 20:47
  do
• 20:48
  was
• 20:48
  settle
• 20:48
  down
• 20:48
  and
• 20:48
  have
• 20:49
  a
• 20:49
  family.
• 20:49
  And
• 20:50
  that
• 20:50
  is
• 20:50
  now
• 20:51
  part
• 20:51
  of
• 20:51
  your
• 20:51
  life.
• 20:51
  You
• 20:52
  do
• 20:52
  have
• 20:52
  children.
• 20:53
  So
• 20:53
  talk
• 20:53
  to
• 20:53
  me
• 20:54
  about
• 20:54
  that.
• 20:54
  How
• 20:54
  has
• 20:54
  that
• 20:55
  adjusted
• 20:55
  how
• 20:56
  you
• 20:56
  do
• 20:56
  business
• 20:56
  and
• 20:57
  how
• 20:57
  have
• 20:57
  you
• 20:57
  managed
• 20:57
  to
• 20:58
  juggle
• 20:58
  it?
• 20:58
  Because
• 20:58
  it's
• 20:59
  not
• 20:59
  always
• 20:59
  easy.
• 20:59
  It
• 20:59
  is
• 21:00
  not.
• 21:00
  Grandparents
• 21:01
  are
• 21:01
  the
• 21:02
  salt
• 21:02
  of
• 21:02
  the
• 21:02
  earth.
• 21:02
  They
• 21:03
  are,
• 21:04
  they
• 21:04
  are
• 21:04
  the
• 21:05
  best.
• 21:05
  Because,
• 21:05
  you
• 21:06
  know,
• 21:06
  weddings
• 21:06
  aren't
• 21:07
  nine
• 21:07
  to
• 21:07
  five,
• 21:08
  you
• 21:09
  have.
• 21:09
  And
• 21:10
  so
• 21:10
  grandparents
• 21:10
  and
• 21:10
  my
• 21:11
  husband,
• 21:11
  I
• 21:11
  should
• 21:11
  say,
• 21:12
  if
• 21:12
  it
• 21:12
  wasn't
• 21:12
  for
• 21:13
  them,
• 21:13
  I
• 21:13
  wouldn't
• 21:13
  be
• 21:13
  able
• 21:13
  to
• 21:13
  do
• 21:14
  what
• 21:14
  I'm
• 21:14
  doing.
• 21:14
  Like
• 21:14
  literally
• 21:15
  now
• 21:16
  they
• 21:16
  are
• 21:16
  at
• 21:16
  their
• 21:16
  grandparents
• 21:17
  because
• 21:17
  I
• 21:17
  have
• 21:18
  my
• 21:18
  18
• 21:19
  month
• 21:19
  old
• 21:19
  full
• 21:20
  time,
• 21:20
  I
• 21:20
  have
• 21:21
  my
• 21:21
  4
• 21:21
  and
• 21:22
  a
• 21:22
  half
• 21:22
  year
• 21:22
  old
• 21:22
  most
• 21:23
  of
• 21:23
  the
• 21:23
  time
• 21:23
  she's
• 21:23
  at
• 21:23
  nursery
• 21:24
  three
• 21:24
  mornings
• 21:24
  a
• 21:25
  week
• 21:26
  and
• 21:26
  I
• 21:27
  work
• 21:27
  every
• 21:27
  night
• 21:28
  until
• 21:28
  about
• 21:28
  11,
• 21:29
  12
• 21:29
  at
• 21:29
  night,
• 21:30
  every
• 21:31
  night.
• 21:31
  Doing
• 21:32
  some
• 21:32
  kind
• 21:32
  of
• 21:32
  admin,
• 21:33
  recording
• 21:34
  contracts,
• 21:35
  maybe
• 21:36
  a
• 21:36
  bit
• 21:36
  of
• 21:36
  social
• 21:36
  media.
• 21:37
  So
• 21:37
  that
• 21:37
  is
• 21:38
  my
• 21:38
  juggle.
• 21:38
  That
• 21:39
  is
• 21:39
  my
• 21:40
  it.
• 21:40
  That
• 21:40
  is
• 21:40
  what
• 21:40
  it
• 21:41
  is.
• 21:41
  And
• 21:41
  it's
• 21:41
  not
• 21:41
  going
• 21:41
  to
• 21:41
  be
• 21:42
  forever.
• 21:42
  They're
• 21:42
  only
• 21:42
  young
• 21:43
  for
• 21:43
  a
• 21:43
  period
• 21:43
  of
• 21:43
  time
• 21:44
  and
• 21:45
  I
• 21:45
  don't
• 21:45
  want
• 21:45
  to
• 21:45
  miss
• 21:45
  out
• 21:45
  on
• 21:46
  anything.
• 21:47
  I'm
• 21:47
  sure
• 21:48
  it'll
• 21:48
  be
• 21:48
  easier
• 21:48
  when
• 21:48
  she
• 21:48
  goes
• 21:49
  to
• 21:49
  school
• 21:49
  in
• 21:49
  September.
• 21:50
  Like
• 21:51
  what
• 21:51
  I.
• 21:51
  And
• 21:51
  I
• 21:51
  didn't
• 21:52
  really
• 21:52
  have
• 21:52
  a
• 21:52
  stuff.
• 21:52
  I
• 21:52
  think
• 21:52
  you
• 21:53
  may
• 21:53
  have
• 21:53
  seen
• 21:53
  me
• 21:53
  very
• 21:54
  pregnant
• 21:54
  singing
• 21:55
  at
• 21:55
  weddings.
• 21:55
  I
• 21:55
  had
• 21:56
  to
• 21:56
  stop
• 21:56
  at
• 21:56
  a
• 21:56
  certain
• 21:57
  point
• 21:57
  because
• 21:57
  I
• 21:57
  didn't
• 21:57
  want
• 21:57
  to
• 21:57
  panic
• 21:58
  the
• 21:58
  brides,
• 21:58
  you
• 21:58
  know,
• 21:58
  I
• 21:58
  didn't
• 21:59
  want
• 21:59
  to
• 21:59
  get
• 21:59
  too
• 21:59
  close
• 21:59
  to
• 21:59
  it.
• 21:59
  It's
• 22:00
  that
• 22:00
  selfish.
• 22:00
  You
• 22:00
  don't
• 22:01
  want
• 22:01
  your,
• 22:01
  your
• 22:02
  singer
• 22:02
  giving.
• 22:03
  I
• 22:03
  think
• 22:04
  there
• 22:04
  was
• 22:04
  one
• 22:04
  that
• 22:04
  I
• 22:04
  did
• 22:05
  at
• 22:05
  like
• 22:05
  eight
• 22:06
  months
• 22:06
  and
• 22:06
  then
• 22:07
  they.
• 22:07
  The
• 22:08
  wedding
• 22:08
  coordinate
• 22:08
  went
• 22:08
  up
• 22:09
  to
• 22:09
  the.
• 22:09
  Brian
• 22:09
  was
• 22:09
  like,
• 22:09
  Rebecca.
• 22:10
  And
• 22:10
  they're
• 22:10
  like,
• 22:10
  oh,
• 22:10
  my
• 22:10
  God,
• 22:11
  is
• 22:11
  she
• 22:11
  here?
• 22:11
  Like,
• 22:11
  So
• 22:11
  I
• 22:12
  didn't.
• 22:12
  I
• 22:12
  didn't
• 22:12
  want
• 22:12
  that
• 22:13
  any
• 22:13
  further
• 22:13
  than
• 22:13
  that.
• 22:13
  And
• 22:14
  they
• 22:14
  were
• 22:14
  so
• 22:14
  grateful
• 22:14
  I
• 22:15
  was
• 22:15
  there
• 22:15
  and
• 22:15
  I
• 22:15
  didn't
• 22:15
  want
• 22:15
  the
• 22:15
  pressure
• 22:16
  of
• 22:16
  it,
• 22:16
  so
• 22:16
  I
• 22:17
  did
• 22:17
  that.
• 22:17
  And
• 22:17
  then
• 22:17
  I
• 22:17
  think
• 22:18
  maybe
• 22:19
  it
• 22:19
  was
• 22:20
  maybe
• 22:20
  six
• 22:21
  weeks
• 22:21
  or,
• 22:21
  gosh,
• 22:22
  maybe
• 22:22
  eight
• 22:23
  weeks
• 22:23
  old.
• 22:23
  My
• 22:23
  youngest
• 22:24
  was.
• 22:24
  And
• 22:24
  I
• 22:24
  was
• 22:24
  at
• 22:25
  the
• 22:25
  Milton
• 22:25
  Keynes
• 22:25
  wedding
• 22:25
  show
• 22:26
  during
• 22:26
  three
• 22:26
  days,
• 22:27
  but
• 22:28
  my
• 22:29
  dad
• 22:29
  was
• 22:30
  with
• 22:30
  the
• 22:30
  pram
• 22:31
  walking
• 22:31
  around
• 22:31
  when
• 22:32
  I
• 22:32
  wasn't
• 22:32
  singing
• 22:32
  on.
• 22:33
  When
• 22:33
  I
• 22:33
  was
• 22:33
  singing
• 22:33
  on
• 22:33
  stage.
• 22:33
  And
• 22:34
  then
• 22:34
  when
• 22:34
  I
• 22:34
  wasn't,
• 22:35
  he
• 22:35
  came
• 22:35
  and
• 22:36
  brought
• 22:36
  the
• 22:36
  baby
• 22:36
  to
• 22:36
  me
• 22:37
  and
• 22:37
  I
• 22:37
  was
• 22:37
  feeding
• 22:38
  and
• 22:38
  then
• 22:39
  I
• 22:39
  had
• 22:39
  someone
• 22:39
  else
• 22:39
  help
• 22:40
  me.
• 22:40
  I
• 22:40
  paid
• 22:40
  for
• 22:40
  them
• 22:41
  to,
• 22:41
  like,
• 22:41
  run
• 22:41
  the
• 22:41
  stand
• 22:42
  when
• 22:42
  I
• 22:42
  wasn't
• 22:42
  there.
• 22:42
  So
• 22:43
  I
• 22:43
  can't
• 22:43
  not
• 22:43
  be
• 22:43
  there
• 22:44
  because
• 22:44
  it's
• 22:44
  not
• 22:44
  a
• 22:44
  business
• 22:45
  where
• 22:45
  you're
• 22:45
  employing.
• 22:46
  It's
• 22:47
  not
• 22:47
  like,
• 22:47
  I
• 22:47
  don't
• 22:47
  know,
• 22:48
  miniature
• 22:48
  golf,
• 22:48
  like,
• 22:48
  where
• 22:49
  you.
• 22:49
  It
• 22:49
  doesn't
• 22:49
  matter
• 22:49
  if
• 22:50
  you're
• 22:50
  there
• 22:50
  or
• 22:50
  not.
• 22:51
  I
• 22:51
  have
• 22:51
  to
• 22:51
  be
• 22:51
  there.
• 22:52
  I
• 22:52
  am
• 22:52
  selling
• 22:53
  myself
• 22:53
  on
• 22:54
  my
• 22:54
  voice
• 22:54
  and
• 22:54
  my
• 22:55
  personality
• 22:55
  and
• 22:55
  if
• 22:56
  you
• 22:56
  get
• 22:56
  on
• 22:56
  with
• 22:56
  me
• 22:56
  or
• 22:56
  not.
• 22:57
  So,
• 22:57
  yeah,
• 22:57
  I
• 22:57
  couldn't
• 22:58
  really
• 22:58
  take
• 22:58
  a
• 22:58
  break
• 22:59
  and
• 22:59
  I
• 22:59
  think
• 22:59
  there's
• 23:00
  a
• 23:00
  lot
• 23:00
  of.
• 23:00
  Of
• 23:00
  women
• 23:00
  in
• 23:00
  the
• 23:01
  wedding
• 23:01
  industry
• 23:01
  that
• 23:02
  are
• 23:02
  the
• 23:02
  same.
• 23:02
  You,
• 23:03
  you
• 23:03
  just
• 23:03
  have
• 23:03
  to
• 23:03
  keep
• 23:03
  going.
• 23:04
  You
• 23:04
  have
• 23:04
  to
• 23:04
  keep
• 23:04
  getting
• 23:05
  those
• 23:05
  bookings
• 23:05
  because
• 23:06
  they're
• 23:06
  booked
• 23:06
  so
• 23:06
  far
• 23:06
  in
• 23:07
  advance.
• 23:07
  You
• 23:07
  don't
• 23:08
  want
• 23:08
  your
• 23:08
  face
• 23:08
  to
• 23:08
  be
• 23:08
  out
• 23:08
  of
• 23:09
  the
• 23:09
  game.
• 23:10
  But
• 23:10
  you
• 23:11
  know
• 23:11
  that
• 23:12
  I
• 23:12
  didn't
• 23:13
  take
• 23:13
  on
• 23:13
  too
• 23:13
  many
• 23:14
  and,
• 23:14
  and
• 23:14
  it's
• 23:14
  not
• 23:14
  every
• 23:15
  day.
• 23:15
  It's.
• 23:16
  It's
• 23:16
  few
• 23:16
  and
• 23:16
  far
• 23:17
  between.
• 23:17
  I
• 23:17
  only
• 23:17
  take
• 23:17
  on
• 23:17
  a
• 23:17
  certain
• 23:18
  amount
• 23:18
  of
• 23:18
  winners
• 23:19
  each
• 23:19
  year,
• 23:20
  quite
• 23:20
  a
• 23:20
  lot,
• 23:20
  but
• 23:21
  they're
• 23:21
  spread
• 23:21
  out
• 23:22
  and,
• 23:22
  you
• 23:22
  know,
• 23:23
  I'm
• 23:23
  still
• 23:24
  mum
• 23:24
  first
• 23:25
  and
• 23:25
  wedding
• 23:26
  singer,
• 23:26
  maybe
• 23:27
  just
• 23:27
  underneath.
• 23:28
  And
• 23:28
  it
• 23:29
  is
• 23:29
  tough.
• 23:29
  And
• 23:29
  the
• 23:29
  thing
• 23:30
  is,
• 23:30
  you,
• 23:30
  you
• 23:30
  do
• 23:30
  get
• 23:31
  the
• 23:31
  best
• 23:31
  of
• 23:31
  both
• 23:31
  worlds
• 23:32
  in
• 23:32
  some
• 23:32
  ways
• 23:32
  and
• 23:32
  the
• 23:33
  worst
• 23:33
  of
• 23:33
  both
• 23:33
  worlds
• 23:33
  in
• 23:33
  some
• 23:34
  ways.
• 23:34
  Because
• 23:34
  isn't
• 23:35
  it
• 23:35
  a
• 23:35
  joy
• 23:35
  to
• 23:36
  be
• 23:36
  at
• 23:36
  home
• 23:36
  and
• 23:36
  to
• 23:37
  be
• 23:37
  with
• 23:37
  them
• 23:37
  all
• 23:37
  the
• 23:37
  day?
• 23:37
  Not
• 23:38
  all
• 23:38
  the
• 23:38
  time.
• 23:38
  It
• 23:38
  doesn't
• 23:38
  always
• 23:38
  feel
• 23:39
  like
• 23:39
  a
• 23:39
  joy,
• 23:39
  but
• 23:39
  a
• 23:39
  lot
• 23:39
  of
• 23:39
  the
• 23:40
  time
• 23:40
  it
• 23:40
  is
• 23:40
  a
• 23:40
  privilege
• 23:41
  to
• 23:41
  be
• 23:41
  there.
• 23:42
  And
• 23:42
  actually
• 23:43
  it's
• 23:43
  great
• 23:44
  that
• 23:44
  we
• 23:44
  can
• 23:44
  have
• 23:45
  businesses
• 23:45
  that
• 23:45
  we
• 23:46
  can
• 23:46
  go
• 23:46
  out
• 23:46
  and
• 23:46
  do
• 23:47
  in
• 23:47
  the
• 23:48
  evenings
• 23:48
  or
• 23:48
  go
• 23:48
  out
• 23:48
  and
• 23:49
  do
• 23:49
  things
• 23:49
  and
• 23:49
  we
• 23:49
  can
• 23:49
  stay
• 23:49
  up
• 23:50
  late
• 23:50
  and
• 23:50
  it
• 23:50
  is
• 23:51
  only
• 23:51
  for
• 23:52
  a
• 23:52
  period.
• 23:52
  I
• 23:52
  remember
• 23:52
  back
• 23:53
  now,
• 23:53
  I
• 23:53
  mean,
• 23:53
  I
• 23:53
  sound
• 23:54
  like
• 23:54
  an
• 23:54
  old
• 23:54
  lady
• 23:54
  when
• 23:54
  I
• 23:55
  start
• 23:55
  talking
• 23:56
  back,
• 23:56
  but
• 23:56
  I
• 23:56
  remember
• 23:57
  holding
• 23:57
  a
• 23:57
  networking
• 23:58
  event
• 23:58
  when
• 23:58
  I
• 23:58
  was
• 23:58
  pregnant.
• 23:59
  I
• 23:59
  was
• 23:59
  about
• 23:59
  eight
• 24:00
  months
• 24:00
  pregnant
• 24:00
  with
• 24:01
  my
• 24:01
  daughter
• 24:01
  who
• 24:02
  is
• 24:02
  now
• 24:02
  eight,
• 24:03
  shows
• 24:03
  how
• 24:03
  long
• 24:04
  I've
• 24:04
  been
• 24:04
  doing
• 24:04
  this.
• 24:05
  And
• 24:05
  I
• 24:05
  did
• 24:06
  it
• 24:06
  then.
• 24:06
  And
• 24:06
  then
• 24:06
  I
• 24:07
  remember
• 24:07
  going
• 24:07
  out
• 24:07
  and
• 24:08
  running
• 24:08
  another
• 24:08
  networking
• 24:09
  event
• 24:09
  six
• 24:09
  to
• 24:10
  eight
• 24:10
  weeks
• 24:10
  after
• 24:11
  she
• 24:11
  was
• 24:11
  born.
• 24:12
  And
• 24:12
  I
• 24:12
  look
• 24:12
  back
• 24:12
  now
• 24:12
  and
• 24:13
  I
• 24:13
  was
• 24:13
  like,
• 24:13
  I
• 24:13
  was
• 24:13
  crazy.
• 24:14
  But
• 24:14
  I
• 24:14
  also
• 24:14
  look
• 24:14
  back
• 24:14
  and
• 24:15
  think,
• 24:15
  but
• 24:15
  I
• 24:15
  couldn't
• 24:16
  have
• 24:16
  done
• 24:16
  it
• 24:16
  any
• 24:16
  other
• 24:16
  way.
• 24:17
  I
• 24:17
  don't
• 24:17
  have
• 24:17
  any
• 24:17
  regrets
• 24:18
  about
• 24:18
  doing
• 24:18
  that
• 24:19
  because
• 24:19
  actually
• 24:20
  that's
• 24:20
  allowed
• 24:21
  me
• 24:21
  to
• 24:21
  do
• 24:21
  what
• 24:21
  I
• 24:21
  do
• 24:22
  now.
• 24:22
  Now
• 24:22
  they
• 24:22
  are
• 24:22
  both
• 24:23
  at
• 24:23
  school
• 24:23
  and
• 24:24
  people
• 24:24
  say
• 24:24
  to
• 24:24
  me
• 24:24
  all
• 24:24
  the
• 24:24
  time,
• 24:25
  oh,
• 24:25
  you're
• 24:25
  so
• 24:25
  lucky
• 24:26
  to
• 24:26
  have.
• 24:26
  Have
• 24:27
  a
• 24:27
  work
• 24:27
  that
• 24:28
  fits
• 24:28
  around
• 24:28
  your
• 24:28
  kids.
• 24:29
  And
• 24:29
  I
• 24:29
  always
• 24:29
  say
• 24:30
  I'm
• 24:30
  not
• 24:30
  lucky.
• 24:31
  I
• 24:31
  worked
• 24:31
  blooming
• 24:32
  hard
• 24:32
  for
• 24:32
  this
• 24:32
  and
• 24:33
  there
• 24:33
  was
• 24:33
  times
• 24:33
  when
• 24:34
  I
• 24:34
  did
• 24:34
  exactly
• 24:34
  what
• 24:35
  you
• 24:35
  did,
• 24:35
  which
• 24:35
  was
• 24:35
  I
• 24:36
  was
• 24:36
  with
• 24:36
  the
• 24:36
  kids
• 24:36
  all
• 24:37
  day
• 24:37
  with
• 24:37
  barely
• 24:37
  any
• 24:37
  childcare
• 24:38
  and
• 24:38
  then
• 24:38
  I
• 24:38
  would
• 24:39
  work
• 24:39
  all
• 24:39
  evening
• 24:39
  and
• 24:40
  all
• 24:40
  my
• 24:40
  events
• 24:40
  for
• 24:40
  in
• 24:40
  the
• 24:40
  evening.
• 24:41
  And
• 24:41
  actually
• 24:42
  it
• 24:42
  does
• 24:43
  get
• 24:43
  easier,
• 24:43
  I
• 24:43
  promise,
• 24:44
  once
• 24:44
  they
• 24:44
  go
• 24:44
  to
• 24:44
  school.
• 24:45
  And
• 24:45
  also
• 24:46
  I
• 24:46
  just
• 24:46
  think
• 24:46
  it's
• 24:47
  so
• 24:47
  good
• 24:47
  to
• 24:47
  be
• 24:47
  a
• 24:48
  role
• 24:48
  model
• 24:48
  for
• 24:49
  your
• 24:49
  kids,
• 24:49
  for
• 24:49
  them
• 24:49
  to
• 24:50
  see.
• 24:50
  I
• 24:50
  think
• 24:50
  it's
• 24:50
  important
• 24:50
  for
• 24:51
  them
• 24:51
  to
• 24:51
  know
• 24:52
  I
• 24:52
  have
• 24:52
  my
• 24:52
  own
• 24:52
  business,
• 24:53
  I
• 24:53
  go
• 24:53
  out
• 24:53
  and
• 24:53
  do
• 24:54
  work.
• 24:54
  This
• 24:54
  is
• 24:54
  so
• 24:54
  that
• 24:54
  we
• 24:55
  can
• 24:55
  go
• 24:55
  on
• 24:55
  nice
• 24:55
  holidays.
• 24:56
  This
• 24:56
  is
• 24:56
  so
• 24:56
  that
• 24:56
  we
• 24:56
  can
• 24:56
  do
• 24:56
  that.
• 24:57
  But
• 24:57
  I'm
• 24:57
  also
• 24:58
  doing
• 24:58
  it
• 24:58
  so
• 24:59
  that
• 24:59
  I
• 24:59
  can
• 24:59
  be
• 24:59
  there
• 25:00
  in
• 25:00
  the
• 25:00
  day.
• 25:00
  But
• 25:00
  the
• 25:01
  mum
• 25:01
  guilt
• 25:01
  does
• 25:01
  get
• 25:01
  you.
• 25:02
  Do
• 25:02
  you
• 25:02
  get
• 25:02
  mum
• 25:02
  guilt
• 25:03
  all
• 25:03
  the.
• 25:03
  Time
• 25:05
  when
• 25:05
  they're
• 25:05
  crying
• 25:06
  when
• 25:06
  you
• 25:06
  leave,
• 25:07
  but
• 25:08
  more
• 25:08
  when
• 25:08
  they
• 25:08
  were
• 25:09
  little,
• 25:09
  I
• 25:09
  think
• 25:09
  when
• 25:09
  they
• 25:10
  were
• 25:10
  really
• 25:10
  little.
• 25:10
  But
• 25:10
  now
• 25:11
  they
• 25:11
  love
• 25:11
  going
• 25:11
  to
• 25:11
  grandma's
• 25:12
  house.
• 25:12
  They,
• 25:12
  they
• 25:12
  do
• 25:13
  fun
• 25:13
  things,
• 25:13
  they
• 25:13
  get
• 25:14
  to
• 25:14
  spend
• 25:14
  more
• 25:15
  time
• 25:15
  one
• 25:15
  on
• 25:15
  one
• 25:15
  with
• 25:16
  their
• 25:16
  dad.
• 25:16
  Like
• 25:17
  that
• 25:17
  I
• 25:17
  get
• 25:17
  so.
• 25:18
  It
• 25:18
  is,
• 25:19
  it
• 25:19
  is,
• 25:20
  yeah.
• 25:20
  But
• 25:20
  like
• 25:20
  you
• 25:20
  say,
• 25:21
  I.
• 25:22
  My
• 25:22
  little
• 25:22
  girl
• 25:22
  was
• 25:23
  like,
• 25:23
  when
• 25:23
  I
• 25:23
  grow
• 25:23
  up
• 25:23
  I
• 25:24
  want
• 25:24
  to
• 25:24
  be
• 25:24
  a
• 25:24
  mum
• 25:24
  and
• 25:24
  I
• 25:24
  want
• 25:24
  to
• 25:25
  be
• 25:25
  a
• 25:25
  singer.
• 25:25
  So
• 25:25
  she
• 25:25
  knows
• 25:26
  that
• 25:26
  you
• 25:26
  can
• 25:26
  do
• 25:26
  both,
• 25:27
  which,
• 25:27
  you
• 25:27
  know,
• 25:28
  it's
• 25:28
  times
• 25:28
  before
• 25:29
  couldn't.
• 25:29
  You
• 25:29
  had
• 25:29
  to
• 25:29
  do
• 25:30
  one
• 25:30
  or
• 25:30
  the
• 25:30
  other,
• 25:30
  you
• 25:30
  had
• 25:30
  to
• 25:31
  choose.
• 25:31
  And
• 25:31
  like
• 25:32
  you
• 25:32
  say,
• 25:32
  you
• 25:32
  put
• 25:32
  in
• 25:32
  the
• 25:32
  groundwork
• 25:33
  so
• 25:33
  that
• 25:33
  it
• 25:33
  does
• 25:34
  eventually
• 25:34
  work
• 25:34
  out
• 25:34
  for
• 25:35
  you
• 25:35
  in
• 25:35
  the
• 25:35
  long
• 25:35
  run,
• 25:36
  although
• 25:36
  it
• 25:36
  doesn't
• 25:37
  seem
• 25:37
  like
• 25:37
  it
• 25:38
  will.
• 25:38
  I
• 25:38
  think,
• 25:39
  yeah,
• 25:39
  I
• 25:39
  went
• 25:39
  into.
• 25:40
  It
• 25:40
  was
• 25:40
  after
• 25:41
  Covid,
• 25:41
  I
• 25:41
  was
• 25:41
  doing
• 25:42
  a
• 25:42
  wedding
• 25:42
  and
• 25:42
  I
• 25:42
  didn't
• 25:43
  want
• 25:43
  to
• 25:43
  let
• 25:43
  the
• 25:43
  couple
• 25:43
  down.
• 25:44
  But
• 25:44
  again,
• 25:44
  my
• 25:44
  baby
• 25:44
  was
• 25:45
  six
• 25:45
  weeks
• 25:45
  old
• 25:45
  and
• 25:45
  I
• 25:45
  had
• 25:46
  to
• 25:46
  like
• 25:46
  because
• 25:47
  no
• 25:47
  one
• 25:47
  else
• 25:47
  was
• 25:47
  allowed
• 25:47
  in
• 25:47
  the
• 25:48
  building.
• 25:48
  I
• 25:48
  had
• 25:48
  to
• 25:48
  go
• 25:48
  to
• 25:48
  the
• 25:49
  car
• 25:49
  and
• 25:49
  feed
• 25:49
  her.
• 25:50
  And
• 25:50
  so
• 25:50
  there
• 25:50
  are
• 25:50
  dark
• 25:51
  times,
• 25:51
  those
• 25:51
  kind
• 25:51
  of
• 25:52
  things
• 25:52
  I
• 25:52
  do,
• 25:52
  I
• 25:53
  do
• 25:53
  regret
• 25:53
  and
• 25:53
  I
• 25:53
  did
• 25:54
  get
• 25:54
  back
• 25:54
  home
• 25:54
  And
• 25:54
  I
• 25:54
  cried
• 25:55
  my
• 25:55
  eyes
• 25:55
  out.
• 25:55
  But
• 25:56
  that
• 25:56
  was
• 25:56
  probably
• 25:57
  hormones
• 25:57
  as
• 25:57
  well.
• 25:58
  But
• 25:59
  also
• 25:59
  I'm
• 25:59
  bringing
• 25:59
  in
• 26:00
  money,
• 26:00
  you
• 26:00
  know,
• 26:00
  statutory
• 26:01
  maternity
• 26:02
  pay
• 26:02
  is
• 26:02
  nothing
• 26:03
  and
• 26:03
  I
• 26:04
  had
• 26:04
  to
• 26:04
  just
• 26:04
  keep
• 26:04
  going
• 26:05
  and
• 26:05
  make
• 26:06
  sure,
• 26:06
  you
• 26:06
  know,
• 26:06
  everything's
• 26:07
  paid
• 26:07
  for.
• 26:07
  And
• 26:08
  like,
• 26:09
  like
• 26:09
  you
• 26:09
  say,
• 26:09
  I
• 26:09
  don't
• 26:10
  have
• 26:10
  to
• 26:10
  work
• 26:10
  9
• 26:11
  to
• 26:11
  5
• 26:11
  every
• 26:12
  day,
• 26:13
  so
• 26:13
  I'm
• 26:13
  very
• 26:13
  lucky
• 26:13
  for
• 26:14
  that.
• 26:14
  And
• 26:14
  I,
• 26:15
  I
• 26:15
  get
• 26:15
  to
• 26:15
  see
• 26:15
  them
• 26:16
  grow
• 26:16
  up
• 26:16
  and
• 26:16
  yeah,
• 26:17
  I'm,
• 26:18
  I'm
• 26:18
  happy
• 26:18
  with
• 26:18
  how
• 26:18
  I've
• 26:19
  done
• 26:19
  things.
• 26:19
  I
• 26:19
  think,
• 26:20
  yeah,
• 26:20
  you
• 26:20
  absolutely
• 26:20
  should
• 26:21
  be.
• 26:21
  And
• 26:21
  I
• 26:21
  think
• 26:21
  anyone
• 26:22
  again,
• 26:22
  anyone
• 26:22
  listening
• 26:23
  to
• 26:23
  this,
• 26:23
  who
• 26:23
  is
• 26:23
  in
• 26:23
  that
• 26:24
  situation,
• 26:24
  whether
• 26:24
  you're
• 26:25
  right
• 26:25
  at
• 26:25
  the
• 26:25
  start,
• 26:26
  it
• 26:26
  is
• 26:26
  tough.
• 26:27
  But
• 26:27
  talk
• 26:28
  to
• 26:28
  other
• 26:28
  people
• 26:28
  about
• 26:29
  it
• 26:29
  because
• 26:29
  there's
• 26:30
  people
• 26:30
  are
• 26:31
  more
• 26:31
  than
• 26:31
  happy
• 26:31
  to
• 26:31
  chat
• 26:32
  who've
• 26:32
  gone
• 26:32
  through
• 26:33
  it
• 26:33
  first
• 26:33
  and
• 26:33
  to
• 26:33
  talk
• 26:34
  about
• 26:34
  how
• 26:34
  they
• 26:34
  did
• 26:34
  it.
• 26:35
  And
• 26:35
  there
• 26:35
  will
• 26:35
  be
• 26:35
  dark
• 26:35
  times
• 26:36
  and
• 26:36
  it
• 26:36
  will
• 26:36
  be
• 26:36
  difficult
• 26:37
  at
• 26:37
  times
• 26:38
  and
• 26:38
  there's
• 26:38
  some
• 26:38
  people
• 26:38
  that
• 26:39
  take
• 26:39
  a
• 26:39
  break
• 26:39
  and
• 26:39
  there's
• 26:39
  some
• 26:40
  people
• 26:40
  that
• 26:40
  don't.
• 26:40
  There's
• 26:40
  no
• 26:40
  right
• 26:41
  or
• 26:41
  wrong
• 26:42
  but
• 26:42
  it
• 26:42
  does
• 26:43
  get
• 26:43
  better,
• 26:43
  I
• 26:44
  promise
• 26:44
  you.
• 26:44
  I
• 26:44
  feel
• 26:44
  like
• 26:45
  I'm
• 26:45
  like
• 26:45
  coming
• 26:46
  out
• 26:46
  the
• 26:46
  other
• 26:46
  side
• 26:46
  now
• 26:47
  with
• 26:47
  an
• 26:47
  8
• 26:47
  year
• 26:48
  old
• 26:48
  and
• 26:48
  an
• 26:49
  11
• 26:49
  year
• 26:49
  old
• 26:49
  and
• 26:50
  it
• 26:50
  gets
• 26:50
  better
• 26:50
  but
• 26:51
  they
• 26:51
  don't
• 26:51
  always
• 26:51
  still
• 26:52
  appreciate
• 26:52
  what
• 26:52
  you
• 26:52
  do
• 26:53
  because
• 26:53
  again,
• 26:53
  I
• 26:53
  might
• 26:53
  have
• 26:54
  shared
• 26:54
  this
• 26:54
  on
• 26:54
  the
• 26:54
  podcast
• 26:54
  before
• 26:55
  I
• 26:55
  got
• 26:55
  asked
• 26:56
  to
• 26:56
  go
• 26:56
  on
• 26:56
  the
• 26:56
  school
• 26:56
  trip
• 26:56
  recently
• 26:57
  because
• 26:57
  my
• 26:57
  11
• 26:58
  year
• 26:58
  old
• 26:58
  son
• 26:58
  said
• 26:59
  to
• 26:59
  his
• 26:59
  teacher,
• 26:59
  my
• 27:00
  mum
• 27:00
  can
• 27:00
  come
• 27:00
  because
• 27:00
  she
• 27:00
  does
• 27:01
  nothing
• 27:01
  during
• 27:01
  the
• 27:01
  day
• 27:03
  even
• 27:03
  though
• 27:03
  I
• 27:03
  work.
• 27:04
  So
• 27:04
  from
• 27:04
  her,
• 27:05
  his
• 27:05
  perspective,
• 27:05
  which
• 27:05
  is
• 27:05
  great,
• 27:06
  again
• 27:06
  I'm
• 27:06
  like,
• 27:06
  well
• 27:07
  that's
• 27:07
  a
• 27:07
  nice
• 27:07
  perspective
• 27:07
  because
• 27:08
  he
• 27:08
  thinks
• 27:08
  I'm
• 27:08
  there
• 27:09
  waiting
• 27:09
  to
• 27:09
  pick
• 27:09
  him
• 27:09
  up
• 27:09
  from
• 27:10
  school.
• 27:10
  But
• 27:11
  the
• 27:11
  reality
• 27:11
  is
• 27:12
  I
• 27:12
  do
• 27:12
  work
• 27:12
  hard,
• 27:13
  son,
• 27:13
  I
• 27:13
  promise,
• 27:13
  I
• 27:14
  promise
• 27:14
  I
• 27:14
  do.
• 27:15
  Now
• 27:15
  Rebecca,
• 27:16
  you've
• 27:16
  also
• 27:16
  been
• 27:17
  in
• 27:17
  my
• 27:17
  members
• 27:17
  lounge
• 27:18
  as
• 27:18
  I
• 27:18
  mentioned
• 27:19
  right
• 27:19
  at
• 27:19
  the
• 27:19
  start
• 27:20
  of
• 27:20
  this
• 27:20
  episode,
• 27:20
  for
• 27:21
  a
• 27:21
  number
• 27:21
  of
• 27:21
  years
• 27:22
  now
• 27:22
  and
• 27:22
  I've
• 27:22
  loved
• 27:22
  watching
• 27:23
  your
• 27:23
  journey,
• 27:23
  journey,
• 27:24
  seeing
• 27:24
  you
• 27:24
  have
• 27:24
  your
• 27:24
  kids,
• 27:25
  all
• 27:25
  of
• 27:25
  that
• 27:25
  stuff,
• 27:25
  I
• 27:25
  love
• 27:26
  having
• 27:26
  you
• 27:26
  around.
• 27:27
  Do
• 27:27
  you
• 27:27
  remember
• 27:27
  back
• 27:28
  to
• 27:28
  joining
• 27:28
  the
• 27:28
  members
• 27:28
  lounge?
• 27:29
  Why
• 27:29
  did
• 27:29
  you
• 27:29
  join
• 27:29
  in
• 27:30
  the
• 27:30
  first
• 27:30
  place?
• 27:30
  Or
• 27:31
  what
• 27:31
  do
• 27:31
  you
• 27:31
  get
• 27:31
  out
• 27:32
  of
• 27:32
  being
• 27:32
  part
• 27:33
  of
• 27:33
  the
• 27:33
  community?
• 27:33
  I
• 27:34
  think
• 27:34
  I
• 27:34
  was
• 27:34
  again
• 27:35
  recommended
• 27:35
  by
• 27:36
  someone,
• 27:36
  I
• 27:36
  think
• 27:36
  it
• 27:36
  was
• 27:36
  a
• 27:36
  celebrant
• 27:37
  friend
• 27:38
  and
• 27:38
  they're
• 27:38
  like
• 27:38
  have
• 27:38
  you
• 27:38
  heard
• 27:38
  about
• 27:39
  Becca?
• 27:39
  And
• 27:40
  I
• 27:40
  was
• 27:40
  like
• 27:40
  no.
• 27:40
  And
• 27:40
  then
• 27:40
  I
• 27:41
  think
• 27:41
  I
• 27:41
  started
• 27:41
  following
• 27:42
  you
• 27:42
  and
• 27:42
  then
• 27:43
  I
• 27:43
  got
• 27:43
  painted
• 27:43
  this
• 27:43
  members
• 27:44
  lounge
• 27:44
  where
• 27:44
  I
• 27:44
  was
• 27:44
  a
• 27:44
  bit
• 27:44
  like,
• 27:45
  oh,
• 27:45
  what's
• 27:45
  going
• 27:46
  on?
• 27:46
  All
• 27:46
  this
• 27:46
  information
• 27:47
  is
• 27:47
  at
• 27:47
  my
• 27:47
  fingertips.
• 27:48
  So
• 27:49
  yeah,
• 27:49
  there's,
• 27:49
  there's
• 27:50
  so
• 27:50
  many
• 27:50
  and
• 27:50
  I
• 27:50
  think
• 27:51
  I
• 27:51
  quote
• 27:51
  you
• 27:52
  not
• 27:52
  on
• 27:52
  a
• 27:52
  daily
• 27:52
  basis
• 27:53
  but
• 27:53
  Maybe
• 27:53
  a
• 27:53
  weekly
• 27:54
  basis
• 27:54
  of
• 27:55
  like
• 27:55
  oh
• 27:55
  well
• 27:55
  she
• 27:55
  says
• 27:55
  to
• 27:56
  do
• 27:56
  this,
• 27:56
  Becca
• 27:56
  says
• 27:56
  to
• 27:57
  do
• 27:57
  this
• 27:57
  and
• 27:57
  there's
• 27:58
  always
• 27:58
  something
• 27:58
  and
• 27:59
  it's
• 27:59
  constantly
• 27:59
  changing
• 28:00
  and
• 28:00
  that's
• 28:00
  the
• 28:00
  thing.
• 28:00
  If
• 28:00
  I
• 28:01
  didn't
• 28:01
  have
• 28:01
  this
• 28:02
  I
• 28:02
  think
• 28:02
  I
• 28:02
  would
• 28:03
  have
• 28:03
  been
• 28:03
  like
• 28:03
  what's
• 28:04
  going
• 28:04
  on?
• 28:04
  Like
• 28:05
  I
• 28:05
  feel
• 28:05
  like
• 28:05
  it's
• 28:05
  like
• 28:06
  a
• 28:06
  seat.
• 28:06
  It
• 28:06
  is
• 28:06
  a
• 28:07
  secret
• 28:07
  members
• 28:07
  couple
• 28:08
  almost,
• 28:08
  isn't
• 28:08
  it?
• 28:08
  It's
• 28:09
  like
• 28:09
  you've
• 28:09
  got
• 28:09
  the
• 28:09
  secret
• 28:11
  and
• 28:12
  to
• 28:12
  try
• 28:12
  and
• 28:12
  work
• 28:13
  out
• 28:13
  together
• 28:13
  sometimes
• 28:14
  with
• 28:14
  the
• 28:14
  other
• 28:14
  suppliers
• 28:15
  like
• 28:15
  oh
• 28:15
  my
• 28:15
  goodness,
• 28:15
  this
• 28:15
  is
• 28:16
  happening
• 28:16
  on
• 28:16
  social
• 28:17
  media.
• 28:17
  Like
• 28:18
  let's
• 28:18
  navigate
• 28:18
  our
• 28:19
  way
• 28:19
  through
• 28:19
  it
• 28:19
  and,
• 28:20
  and
• 28:20
  also
• 28:21
  commenting
• 28:22
  and
• 28:22
  what
• 28:22
  they
• 28:22
  struggle
• 28:23
  with
• 28:23
  and
• 28:23
  everybody
• 28:24
  helping
• 28:25
  to
• 28:26
  come
• 28:26
  to.
• 28:26
  I
• 28:26
  mean
• 28:27
  I'd
• 28:27
  love
• 28:27
  to
• 28:27
  have
• 28:27
  a
• 28:27
  one
• 28:28
  to
• 28:28
  one
• 28:28
  with
• 28:28
  you
• 28:28
  eventually
• 28:29
  maybe
• 28:30
  when
• 28:30
  the
• 28:30
  kids
• 28:30
  go
• 28:30
  to
• 28:30
  school
• 28:31
  and
• 28:31
  then
• 28:31
  I
• 28:31
  can
• 28:31
  really,
• 28:32
  really
• 28:32
  buckle
• 28:32
  down.
• 28:33
  I
• 28:33
  think
• 28:33
  that's
• 28:33
  where,
• 28:34
  when
• 28:34
  I'll
• 28:34
  really
• 28:35
  start
• 28:35
  to
• 28:35
  try
• 28:36
  even,
• 28:36
  even
• 28:37
  harder
• 28:38
  because
• 28:38
  there's
• 28:39
  always
• 28:39
  something
• 28:40
  to
• 28:40
  be
• 28:40
  doing,
• 28:40
  there's
• 28:40
  always
• 28:40
  something
• 28:41
  to
• 28:41
  improve
• 28:41
  on
• 28:41
  and
• 28:42
  I
• 28:42
  think
• 28:43
  you're
• 28:43
  good
• 28:43
  at
• 28:44
  making
• 28:45
  people
• 28:45
  believe
• 28:46
  in
• 28:46
  themselves
• 28:46
  as
• 28:47
  well
• 28:47
  and
• 28:47
  like
• 28:48
  having
• 28:48
  like
• 28:48
  I,
• 28:49
  I'm
• 28:49
  still
• 28:50
  needing
• 28:50
  to
• 28:50
  be
• 28:50
  a
• 28:50
  bit
• 28:50
  better
• 28:51
  at
• 28:51
  this.
• 28:51
  But
• 28:51
  you
• 28:51
  need
• 28:51
  to
• 28:51
  show
• 28:52
  what
• 28:52
  you
• 28:52
  do.
• 28:52
  Like
• 28:53
  I
• 28:53
  never
• 28:53
  did
• 28:53
  that
• 28:53
  in
• 28:53
  the
• 28:54
  beginning.
• 28:54
  Unless
• 28:54
  you
• 28:55
  show
• 28:55
  somebody
• 28:55
  what
• 28:55
  you're
• 28:56
  doing
• 28:57
  then
• 28:57
  they
• 28:57
  don't
• 28:58
  know
• 28:58
  and
• 28:58
  you
• 28:58
  kind
• 28:59
  of
• 28:59
  have
• 28:59
  to
• 28:59
  shout
• 28:59
  it
• 28:59
  from
• 28:59
  the
• 28:59
  rooftops
• 29:00
  and
• 29:00
  spell
• 29:00
  it
• 29:00
  out
• 29:00
  for
• 29:01
  people.
• 29:01
  So
• 29:01
  that
• 29:01
  kind
• 29:01
  of
• 29:01
  thing.
• 29:02
  And
• 29:03
  helping
• 29:03
  with
• 29:03
  wedding
• 29:04
  fairs
• 29:04
  like
• 29:04
  how
• 29:04
  to
• 29:05
  get,
• 29:05
  you
• 29:06
  know,
• 29:06
  not
• 29:06
  get
• 29:07
  people
• 29:07
  in
• 29:07
  but
• 29:07
  like
• 29:08
  you
• 29:08
  know
• 29:08
  how
• 29:08
  to
• 29:09
  talk
• 29:09
  to
• 29:09
  people,
• 29:10
  how
• 29:10
  to
• 29:11
  have
• 29:11
  a
• 29:11
  strategy.
• 29:11
  Because
• 29:12
  I
• 29:12
  would
• 29:12
  in
• 29:12
  the
• 29:13
  beginning
• 29:13
  just
• 29:13
  rock
• 29:13
  up
• 29:13
  and
• 29:14
  be
• 29:14
  like
• 29:14
  words.
• 29:14
  They
• 29:14
  don't
• 29:14
  want
• 29:15
  to
• 29:15
  talk
• 29:15
  to
• 29:15
  me,
• 29:15
  that's
• 29:15
  fine.
• 29:17
  And
• 29:17
  I
• 29:17
  know
• 29:18
  now
• 29:18
  that
• 29:18
  actually
• 29:18
  I
• 29:19
  have
• 29:19
  someone
• 29:19
  else
• 29:19
  with
• 29:19
  me
• 29:20
  to
• 29:20
  sell
• 29:20
  me
• 29:20
  because
• 29:21
  I
• 29:22
  can't
• 29:22
  sell
• 29:22
  myself
• 29:22
  as
• 29:23
  well
• 29:23
  as
• 29:23
  somebody
• 29:23
  else
• 29:23
  will.
• 29:24
  So
• 29:24
  all
• 29:24
  these
• 29:25
  things
• 29:25
  there's,
• 29:25
  there's
• 29:26
  so
• 29:26
  there's
• 29:26
  too
• 29:27
  many
• 29:27
  things
• 29:27
  probably
• 29:28
  to
• 29:28
  say
• 29:29
  but
• 29:29
  it's
• 29:29
  always
• 29:30
  very
• 29:30
  helpful
• 29:31
  and
• 29:32
  I
• 29:32
  probably
• 29:33
  need
• 29:33
  to,
• 29:33
  when
• 29:33
  they
• 29:34
  go
• 29:34
  to
• 29:34
  school
• 29:34
  I
• 29:34
  will
• 29:34
  like
• 29:35
  be
• 29:35
  like
• 29:35
  your
• 29:36
  A
• 29:36
  class
• 29:36
  student
• 29:37
  or
• 29:37
  whatever
• 29:37
  but
• 29:38
  because
• 29:38
  there's
• 29:39
  always
• 29:39
  something
• 29:39
  to
• 29:39
  do
• 29:40
  and
• 29:40
  there's
• 29:40
  always
• 29:40
  something
• 29:40
  to
• 29:40
  improve
• 29:41
  on.
• 29:42
  Website
• 29:42
  everything
• 29:43
  and
• 29:43
  even
• 29:44
  we've
• 29:44
  had
• 29:44
  people
• 29:45
  guest
• 29:45
  speakers
• 29:45
  in
• 29:46
  and
• 29:46
  people
• 29:47
  to
• 29:47
  look
• 29:47
  at
• 29:48
  like
• 29:48
  I
• 29:48
  think
• 29:48
  someone
• 29:49
  actually
• 29:49
  looked
• 29:49
  at
• 29:49
  my
• 29:49
  website
• 29:49
  and
• 29:49
  gave
• 29:50
  feedback
• 29:50
  on
• 29:50
  a
• 29:50
  zoom
• 29:51
  course
• 29:51
  like
• 29:51
  things
• 29:51
  like
• 29:51
  that.
• 29:52
  Really
• 29:52
  helpful.
• 29:52
  Yeah.
• 29:53
  So
• 29:53
  invaluable.
• 29:54
  And
• 29:54
  it's
• 29:54
  interesting
• 29:55
  because
• 29:55
  I
• 29:55
  think
• 29:55
  when
• 29:55
  they
• 29:55
  go
• 29:55
  to
• 29:55
  school's
• 29:56
  the
• 29:56
  perfect
• 29:56
  time.
• 29:56
  I
• 29:56
  always
• 29:57
  said
• 29:57
  to
• 29:57
  people
• 29:58
  I'm
• 29:58
  going
• 29:58
  to
• 29:58
  grow
• 29:58
  my
• 29:59
  business
• 29:59
  with
• 29:59
  my
• 30:00
  children
• 30:00
  and
• 30:00
  that's
• 30:00
  exactly
• 30:01
  what
• 30:01
  I've
• 30:01
  done.
• 30:01
  Because
• 30:01
  there,
• 30:02
  there
• 30:02
  is
• 30:02
  a
• 30:02
  limited
• 30:02
  capacity
• 30:03
  when
• 30:03
  they're
• 30:03
  young,
• 30:04
  because
• 30:04
  you
• 30:04
  only
• 30:04
  have
• 30:04
  so
• 30:05
  many
• 30:05
  hours
• 30:05
  in
• 30:05
  the
• 30:05
  day.
• 30:06
  And
• 30:06
  that
• 30:06
  capacity
• 30:07
  gets
• 30:07
  bigger
• 30:08
  again.
• 30:08
  People
• 30:08
  say
• 30:08
  to
• 30:08
  me,
• 30:08
  oh,
• 30:09
  it's
• 30:09
  nice
• 30:09
  for
• 30:09
  you
• 30:09
  swanning
• 30:10
  off
• 30:10
  to
• 30:10
  Las
• 30:10
  Vegas.
• 30:11
  I'm
• 30:11
  like,
• 30:11
  well,
• 30:11
  it
• 30:11
  is,
• 30:11
  is.
• 30:12
  But
• 30:12
  I
• 30:12
  wouldn't
• 30:12
  have
• 30:12
  been
• 30:12
  able
• 30:12
  to
• 30:13
  do
• 30:13
  that
• 30:13
  when
• 30:13
  they
• 30:13
  were
• 30:14
  under
• 30:14
  five.
• 30:15
  Absolutely
• 30:16
  not.
• 30:16
  But
• 30:16
  it's
• 30:16
  only
• 30:17
  when
• 30:17
  they've
• 30:17
  been
• 30:18
  six,
• 30:18
  seven,
• 30:18
  eight,
• 30:18
  nine,
• 30:19
  you
• 30:19
  know,
• 30:19
  that
• 30:19
  that's
• 30:19
  been
• 30:20
  possible.
• 30:20
  And
• 30:20
  so
• 30:20
  I
• 30:21
  think
• 30:21
  it's
• 30:21
  a
• 30:21
  great
• 30:21
  goal
• 30:21
  to
• 30:21
  have
• 30:22
  grow
• 30:22
  your
• 30:22
  business
• 30:22
  with
• 30:22
  your
• 30:23
  children
• 30:23
  because
• 30:24
  then
• 30:24
  as
• 30:24
  they
• 30:24
  get
• 30:24
  older,
• 30:25
  you
• 30:25
  can
• 30:25
  do
• 30:25
  bigger
• 30:26
  and
• 30:26
  bigger
• 30:27
  things.
• 30:27
  And
• 30:27
  you're
• 30:27
  right,
• 30:27
  there's
• 30:28
  always
• 30:28
  more
• 30:28
  to
• 30:28
  learn.
• 30:28
  That's
• 30:28
  what
• 30:28
  I
• 30:29
  love
• 30:29
  about
• 30:29
  the
• 30:29
  members.
• 30:30
  That's
• 30:30
  why
• 30:30
  I
• 30:30
  set
• 30:30
  it
• 30:30
  up
• 30:31
  right
• 30:31
  in
• 30:31
  this.
• 30:31
  In
• 30:31
  the
• 30:31
  start
• 30:32
  really
• 30:32
  was
• 30:32
  because
• 30:34
  what
• 30:34
  used
• 30:34
  to
• 30:34
  happen
• 30:34
  is
• 30:35
  I
• 30:35
  would
• 30:35
  run
• 30:35
  a
• 30:36
  social
• 30:36
  media
• 30:36
  training
• 30:36
  in
• 30:36
  a
• 30:37
  hotel
• 30:37
  and.
• 30:37
  And
• 30:37
  15
• 30:38
  people
• 30:38
  would
• 30:38
  come,
• 30:39
  and
• 30:39
  then
• 30:39
  a
• 30:39
  week
• 30:39
  later,
• 30:40
  Facebook
• 30:40
  would
• 30:40
  change
• 30:41
  the
• 30:41
  algorithm.
• 30:41
  Cause
• 30:41
  it
• 30:41
  was
• 30:41
  the
• 30:42
  days
• 30:42
  when
• 30:42
  Facebook
• 30:42
  was
• 30:42
  the
• 30:43
  big
• 30:43
  thing.
• 30:43
  And
• 30:44
  then
• 30:44
  I'm
• 30:44
  like,
• 30:44
  well,
• 30:44
  how
• 30:44
  do
• 30:45
  I
• 30:45
  tell
• 30:45
  them
• 30:45
  all
• 30:45
  that
• 30:46
  we've
• 30:46
  got
• 30:46
  to
• 30:46
  do
• 30:46
  it
• 30:46
  again?
• 30:46
  Because
• 30:47
  it's
• 30:47
  now
• 30:47
  changed.
• 30:48
  And
• 30:48
  so
• 30:48
  what
• 30:48
  I
• 30:49
  love
• 30:49
  about
• 30:49
  the
• 30:49
  members
• 30:49
  lounge
• 30:50
  is
• 30:50
  whether
• 30:50
  you
• 30:50
  dip
• 30:51
  in
• 30:51
  and
• 30:51
  out
• 30:51
  every
• 30:51
  now
• 30:51
  and
• 30:51
  again
• 30:52
  or
• 30:52
  whether
• 30:52
  you're
• 30:52
  in
• 30:52
  there
• 30:53
  all
• 30:53
  the
• 30:53
  time,
• 30:53
  doesn't
• 30:53
  matter.
• 30:54
  But
• 30:54
  if
• 30:54
  something
• 30:55
  changes,
• 30:56
  I
• 30:56
  try
• 30:57
  and
• 30:57
  make
• 30:57
  sure
• 30:57
  you
• 30:57
  know
• 30:57
  about
• 30:57
  it
• 30:57
  or
• 30:58
  I
• 30:58
  bring
• 30:58
  in
• 30:58
  the
• 30:58
  right
• 30:59
  person
• 30:59
  to
• 30:59
  tell
• 30:59
  you,
• 30:59
  because
• 31:00
  otherwise
• 31:00
  everything's
• 31:01
  out
• 31:01
  of
• 31:01
  date
• 31:02
  the
• 31:02
  minute
• 31:02
  after
• 31:02
  it's
• 31:03
  done.
• 31:03
  It's
• 31:03
  funny,
• 31:03
  when
• 31:03
  I
• 31:03
  wrote
• 31:04
  my
• 31:04
  book
• 31:04
  recently
• 31:04
  is
• 31:05
  I've
• 31:05
  been
• 31:05
  really
• 31:05
  careful
• 31:05
  what
• 31:05
  I
• 31:06
  write
• 31:06
  in
• 31:06
  there
• 31:06
  because
• 31:06
  I
• 31:06
  know
• 31:07
  if
• 31:07
  I
• 31:07
  start
• 31:07
  talking
• 31:07
  about
• 31:08
  TikTok,
• 31:08
  for
• 31:08
  example,
• 31:09
  tomorrow
• 31:09
  TikTok
• 31:10
  could
• 31:10
  get
• 31:10
  banned.
• 31:10
  And
• 31:10
  then
• 31:11
  the
• 31:11
  book's
• 31:11
  out
• 31:11
  of
• 31:11
  date.
• 31:12
  It's
• 31:12
  imprint.
• 31:13
  And
• 31:13
  so
• 31:14
  we
• 31:14
  know
• 31:14
  things
• 31:14
  are
• 31:14
  always
• 31:15
  changing.
• 31:15
  And
• 31:15
  it's
• 31:15
  important
• 31:16
  to
• 31:16
  find
• 31:16
  ways
• 31:16
  to
• 31:17
  stay
• 31:17
  ahead
• 31:17
  of
• 31:17
  the
• 31:17
  game.
• 31:18
  And
• 31:18
  if
• 31:18
  you
• 31:18
  are
• 31:18
  listening
• 31:18
  to
• 31:19
  this
• 31:19
  and
• 31:19
  you
• 31:19
  feel
• 31:19
  like
• 31:19
  you
• 31:19
  need
• 31:20
  that,
• 31:20
  then
• 31:21
  this
• 31:21
  podcast
• 31:21
  is
• 31:21
  a
• 31:22
  great
• 31:22
  place
• 31:22
  to
• 31:22
  start.
• 31:22
  But
• 31:23
  do
• 31:23
  invest
• 31:23
  further.
• 31:24
  Come
• 31:24
  into
• 31:24
  the
• 31:24
  members
• 31:24
  lounge.
• 31:25
  It
• 31:25
  is
• 31:25
  the
• 31:25
  secret
• 31:25
  club.
• 31:26
  Because
• 31:26
  one
• 31:26
  of
• 31:27
  the
• 31:27
  things
• 31:27
  I
• 31:27
  get
• 31:27
  out
• 31:28
  of
• 31:28
  it
• 31:28
  that
• 31:28
  I
• 31:28
  love
• 31:28
  is
• 31:28
  when
• 31:29
  people
• 31:29
  in
• 31:29
  there,
• 31:30
  not
• 31:30
  me,
• 31:31
  other
• 31:31
  people,
• 31:31
  share
• 31:32
  what
• 31:32
  they're
• 31:32
  going
• 31:32
  through
• 31:32
  or
• 31:33
  share
• 31:33
  what
• 31:33
  they've
• 31:33
  learned
• 31:34
  or
• 31:34
  share
• 31:34
  their
• 31:35
  vulnerabilities.
• 31:36
  And
• 31:36
  the
• 31:36
  way
• 31:37
  that
• 31:37
  the
• 31:37
  community
• 31:38
  supports
• 31:38
  and
• 31:38
  jumps
• 31:38
  on
• 31:39
  it
• 31:39
  and
• 31:39
  helps
• 31:39
  them
• 31:39
  is
• 31:40
  always
• 31:41
  really
• 31:41
  refreshing.
• 31:41
  And
• 31:42
  I
• 31:42
  think
• 31:42
  sometimes
• 31:42
  business
• 31:43
  is
• 31:43
  lonely.
• 31:43
  We
• 31:43
  need.
• 31:44
  We
• 31:44
  need
• 31:44
  other
• 31:45
  people
• 31:45
  now
• 31:46
  on
• 31:46
  that.
• 31:47
  How
• 31:47
  do
• 31:47
  you
• 31:48
  find
• 31:48
  NAVIGATING
• 31:48
  this
• 31:49
  world
• 31:49
  of
• 31:50
  other
• 31:50
  wedding
• 31:50
  singers
• 31:51
  because
• 31:51
  you
• 31:52
  know
• 31:52
  me,
• 31:52
  I'm
• 31:53
  always
• 31:53
  talking
• 31:53
  about
• 31:54
  community
• 31:54
  over
• 31:55
  competition.
• 31:56
  You've
• 31:57
  mentioned
• 31:57
  it
• 31:57
  before.
• 31:57
  More
• 31:58
  and
• 31:58
  more
• 31:58
  people
• 31:58
  are
• 31:58
  coming
• 31:59
  into
• 31:59
  the
• 31:59
  wedding
• 31:59
  industry.
• 32:00
  How
• 32:01
  are
• 32:01
  you
• 32:01
  staying
• 32:01
  in
• 32:01
  your
• 32:02
  own
• 32:02
  lane
• 32:02
  and
• 32:02
  not
• 32:03
  getting.
• 32:03
  Getting
• 32:03
  sidetracked
• 32:04
  too
• 32:04
  much
• 32:04
  by
• 32:05
  what
• 32:05
  else
• 32:05
  is
• 32:05
  going
• 32:05
  on?
• 32:06
  So,
• 32:06
  yeah,
• 32:06
  there
• 32:07
  are
• 32:07
  a
• 32:07
  lot
• 32:07
  of
• 32:07
  wedding
• 32:08
  singers
• 32:08
  now
• 32:09
  around
• 32:10
  and
• 32:11
  there
• 32:11
  are
• 32:11
  people
• 32:12
  that
• 32:12
  are
• 32:13
  putting
• 32:13
  a
• 32:13
  lot
• 32:13
  of
• 32:13
  numbers
• 32:14
  up.
• 32:14
  I've
• 32:14
  got
• 32:14
  this
• 32:15
  many
• 32:15
  weddings,
• 32:15
  I've
• 32:16
  done
• 32:16
  this,
• 32:17
  and
• 32:17
  it's
• 32:17
  really
• 32:18
  easy
• 32:18
  to
• 32:18
  get
• 32:18
  bogged
• 32:19
  down.
• 32:19
  And
• 32:19
  I've
• 32:19
  spoken
• 32:20
  to
• 32:20
  wedding
• 32:20
  singers
• 32:20
  that
• 32:21
  I'm
• 32:21
  friends
• 32:21
  of
• 32:21
  online.
• 32:22
  Maybe
• 32:22
  I've
• 32:22
  met
• 32:22
  them
• 32:22
  in
• 32:23
  person,
• 32:23
  maybe
• 32:23
  I
• 32:23
  haven't.
• 32:23
  And
• 32:23
  we
• 32:24
  share
• 32:24
  our.
• 32:25
  We
• 32:25
  go,
• 32:25
  well,
• 32:26
  actually
• 32:26
  I'm.
• 32:26
  I've
• 32:27
  got
• 32:27
  this
• 32:27
  many.
• 32:27
  And
• 32:28
  actually,
• 32:28
  well,
• 32:29
  people
• 32:29
  have
• 32:29
  said
• 32:29
  I've
• 32:29
  only
• 32:29
  put
• 32:30
  that
• 32:30
  up
• 32:30
  for
• 32:30
  like
• 32:30
  a
• 32:30
  marketing
• 32:31
  thing.
• 32:31
  And
• 32:31
  you're
• 32:31
  like,
• 32:31
  oh,
• 32:32
  it
• 32:32
  is
• 32:32
  very
• 32:32
  draining
• 32:34
  to
• 32:34
  see
• 32:34
  it.
• 32:35
  But
• 32:35
  once,
• 32:35
  you
• 32:35
  know,
• 32:36
  like
• 32:36
  behind
• 32:37
  closed
• 32:37
  doors,
• 32:37
  actually
• 32:38
  not
• 32:38
  as
• 32:38
  all
• 32:38
  it
• 32:38
  seems.
• 32:39
  And
• 32:39
  you
• 32:39
  have
• 32:39
  to
• 32:39
  keep
• 32:39
  reminding
• 32:40
  yourself
• 32:40
  of
• 32:41
  that.
• 32:41
  And
• 32:41
  people
• 32:41
  may
• 32:42
  be
• 32:42
  doing
• 32:42
  well
• 32:42
  and
• 32:42
  people
• 32:43
  may
• 32:43
  be
• 32:43
  doing
• 32:43
  better
• 32:43
  than
• 32:44
  you.
• 32:44
  But
• 32:44
  I
• 32:45
  know
• 32:45
  that
• 32:45
  for
• 32:46
  me,
• 32:47
  I
• 32:47
  don't
• 32:47
  actually
• 32:47
  have
• 32:48
  to
• 32:48
  travel
• 32:48
  very
• 32:48
  far.
• 32:48
  I
• 32:49
  don't
• 32:49
  really
• 32:49
  travel
• 32:50
  over
• 32:50
  an
• 32:50
  hour.
• 32:50
  And
• 32:51
  that
• 32:51
  is
• 32:51
  working
• 32:51
  inside
• 32:52
  with
• 32:52
  what
• 32:52
  my
• 32:53
  life
• 32:53
  is,
• 32:53
  my
• 32:53
  lifestyle,
• 32:54
  my
• 32:54
  children,
• 32:55
  childcare.
• 32:56
  So
• 32:56
  I'm
• 32:56
  actually
• 32:57
  quite
• 32:57
  happy.
• 32:58
  Like,
• 32:58
  when
• 32:58
  you
• 32:59
  do
• 32:59
  see
• 32:59
  the
• 32:59
  numbers,
• 32:59
  you're
• 32:59
  like,
• 32:59
  oh,
• 33:00
  I
• 33:00
  should
• 33:00
  be
• 33:00
  doing
• 33:00
  that.
• 33:01
  But
• 33:01
  you
• 33:01
  just
• 33:01
  really
• 33:01
  have
• 33:01
  to
• 33:01
  keep
• 33:02
  reminding
• 33:02
  yourself
• 33:03
  you're
• 33:03
  doing
• 33:03
  okay.
• 33:03
  And
• 33:04
  if
• 33:04
  you
• 33:04
  hadn't
• 33:04
  seen
• 33:04
  that,
• 33:04
  you
• 33:05
  would
• 33:05
  never
• 33:05
  have
• 33:05
  thought
• 33:05
  that.
• 33:07
  And
• 33:07
  it
• 33:08
  is
• 33:08
  like
• 33:08
  community
• 33:08
  over.
• 33:09
  Like,
• 33:09
  so
• 33:09
  I
• 33:09
  have.
• 33:10
  When
• 33:10
  I
• 33:10
  was
• 33:10
  pregnant,
• 33:10
  I
• 33:10
  had
• 33:10
  to
• 33:11
  get
• 33:11
  some
• 33:11
  people
• 33:11
  in
• 33:12
  to
• 33:12
  cover
• 33:12
  the
• 33:12
  very
• 33:13
  last
• 33:13
  ones
• 33:13
  that
• 33:14
  I
• 33:14
  was
• 33:14
  doing.
• 33:15
  Hopefully
• 33:16
  people
• 33:17
  would
• 33:17
  ask
• 33:18
  me
• 33:18
  if
• 33:18
  they
• 33:18
  were
• 33:18
  in
• 33:18
  the
• 33:18
  same
• 33:19
  position.
• 33:19
  Hopefully
• 33:19
  for
• 33:20
  them
• 33:20
  in
• 33:20
  the
• 33:20
  future.
• 33:21
  So
• 33:21
  there
• 33:21
  is
• 33:22
  an
• 33:22
  element
• 33:22
  of
• 33:22
  that.
• 33:22
  And.
• 33:23
  And
• 33:23
  also
• 33:23
  it's
• 33:23
  nice
• 33:24
  to
• 33:24
  see
• 33:24
  because
• 33:24
  we
• 33:25
  have
• 33:25
  a
• 33:25
  green
• 33:25
  circle
• 33:25
  as
• 33:25
  well
• 33:26
  where
• 33:27
  you
• 33:27
  share,
• 33:28
  like,
• 33:29
  maybe
• 33:29
  things
• 33:29
  that
• 33:29
  you're
• 33:29
  struggling
• 33:30
  with.
• 33:30
  And
• 33:30
  it's.
• 33:30
  It's
• 33:31
  nice
• 33:31
  to
• 33:31
  see
• 33:31
  that
• 33:31
  people
• 33:32
  are
• 33:32
  like,
• 33:32
  oh,
• 33:32
  this
• 33:32
  is
• 33:32
  really
• 33:33
  hard.
• 33:33
  Because
• 33:33
  for
• 33:33
  years
• 33:34
  is.
• 33:34
  Again,
• 33:35
  it
• 33:35
  looks
• 33:35
  to
• 33:35
  the
• 33:35
  outside
• 33:36
  people
• 33:36
  like,
• 33:36
  oh,
• 33:36
  she
• 33:37
  just
• 33:37
  wanders
• 33:37
  up
• 33:37
  to
• 33:37
  a
• 33:37
  wedding
• 33:37
  and
• 33:38
  sings
• 33:38
  a
• 33:38
  few
• 33:38
  songs.
• 33:39
  There's
• 33:39
  so
• 33:39
  much
• 33:39
  more
• 33:39
  that
• 33:40
  goes
• 33:40
  behind
• 33:40
  the
• 33:41
  scenes.
• 33:41
  And
• 33:41
  to
• 33:42
  have
• 33:42
  other
• 33:42
  people
• 33:42
  go,
• 33:43
  yeah,
• 33:43
  no,
• 33:43
  it's
• 33:43
  really
• 33:43
  hard.
• 33:43
  I'm
• 33:44
  like,
• 33:44
  okay,
• 33:44
  good.
• 33:44
  Okay.
• 33:45
  Because
• 33:45
  I
• 33:45
  thought
• 33:45
  I
• 33:45
  was
• 33:46
  just
• 33:47
  so.
• 33:47
  There
• 33:48
  is
• 33:48
  that.
• 33:48
  But
• 33:48
  you
• 33:48
  have
• 33:49
  to
• 33:49
  stay
• 33:50
  on
• 33:50
  top
• 33:50
  of
• 33:50
  it.
• 33:51
  Like,
• 33:51
  again,
• 33:51
  I
• 33:52
  think
• 33:52
  I
• 33:52
  only
• 33:53
  started,
• 33:53
  I
• 33:54
  did
• 33:54
  the
• 33:54
  odd
• 33:55
  video,
• 33:55
  but
• 33:55
  I
• 33:55
  really
• 33:55
  have
• 33:56
  to
• 33:56
  make
• 33:56
  More
• 33:57
  effort
• 33:57
  to
• 33:57
  do
• 33:57
  it.
• 33:57
  People
• 33:58
  were
• 33:58
  doing
• 33:58
  a
• 33:58
  lot
• 33:58
  of
• 33:59
  content
• 33:59
  at
• 33:59
  weddings
• 33:59
  and
• 33:59
  I
• 34:00
  just
• 34:00
  was
• 34:00
  always
• 34:00
  focused
• 34:01
  on
• 34:01
  the
• 34:01
  wedding,
• 34:01
  which
• 34:01
  you
• 34:01
  should
• 34:02
  be
• 34:02
  because
• 34:02
  it's
• 34:02
  someone's
• 34:03
  important
• 34:03
  day.
• 34:03
  But
• 34:04
  maybe
• 34:04
  I
• 34:04
  have
• 34:04
  to
• 34:04
  get
• 34:04
  there
• 34:05
  a
• 34:05
  bit
• 34:05
  earlier
• 34:06
  then.
• 34:06
  And
• 34:07
  I'm
• 34:07
  always
• 34:07
  there
• 34:07
  ridiculously
• 34:08
  early
• 34:08
  anyway
• 34:09
  to
• 34:09
  make
• 34:09
  some
• 34:09
  content,
• 34:10
  to
• 34:10
  make
• 34:10
  sure
• 34:10
  that
• 34:11
  people
• 34:11
  know
• 34:11
  you
• 34:11
  are
• 34:11
  doing
• 34:12
  a
• 34:12
  wedding
• 34:12
  the
• 34:13
  same
• 34:13
  as
• 34:13
  everybody
• 34:13
  else.
• 34:14
  And
• 34:15
  so
• 34:15
  that's
• 34:15
  what
• 34:15
  I,
• 34:16
  I'm
• 34:16
  trying
• 34:17
  to
• 34:17
  keep
• 34:17
  up
• 34:17
  with
• 34:18
  because
• 34:18
  everybody
• 34:19
  else
• 34:19
  is
• 34:19
  doing
• 34:19
  that.
• 34:20
  So.
• 34:20
  And,
• 34:21
  and
• 34:21
  also
• 34:21
  if
• 34:21
  you
• 34:22
  don't
• 34:22
  do
• 34:22
  a
• 34:22
  wedding
• 34:22
  fair,
• 34:23
  someone
• 34:23
  else
• 34:23
  is
• 34:23
  definitely
• 34:24
  going
• 34:24
  to
• 34:24
  be
• 34:24
  there.
• 34:24
  Whereas
• 34:24
  years
• 34:25
  ago
• 34:25
  no
• 34:25
  one
• 34:25
  would
• 34:25
  be
• 34:26
  replacing
• 34:26
  me.
• 34:26
  There's
• 34:27
  a
• 34:27
  hundred
• 34:27
  people
• 34:28
  lining
• 34:28
  up
• 34:28
  to
• 34:29
  take
• 34:29
  my
• 34:29
  place,
• 34:29
  so
• 34:29
  I
• 34:30
  cannot
• 34:30
  rest
• 34:30
  on
• 34:30
  my
• 34:30
  laurels.
• 34:31
  I
• 34:32
  think,
• 34:32
  think
• 34:32
  a
• 34:32
  lot
• 34:32
  of
• 34:33
  wedding
• 34:33
  suppliers
• 34:33
  thought
• 34:33
  that
• 34:34
  at
• 34:34
  one
• 34:34
  stage,
• 34:34
  like,
• 34:34
  oh
• 34:35
  yeah,
• 34:35
  you
• 34:35
  know,
• 34:35
  this
• 34:35
  is
• 34:35
  fine.
• 34:36
  And
• 34:36
  I
• 34:36
  think
• 34:36
  after
• 34:36
  covert,
• 34:37
  because
• 34:37
  you
• 34:37
  had
• 34:37
  the
• 34:37
  double
• 34:38
  amount
• 34:38
  of
• 34:38
  weddings
• 34:39
  that
• 34:39
  you
• 34:39
  would
• 34:39
  have
• 34:39
  had
• 34:39
  done,
• 34:40
  you'd
• 34:40
  be
• 34:40
  like,
• 34:40
  this
• 34:40
  is
• 34:40
  great.
• 34:41
  No,
• 34:42
  everything's
• 34:42
  changing
• 34:43
  all
• 34:43
  the
• 34:43
  time.
• 34:43
  You
• 34:44
  cannot
• 34:45
  just
• 34:45
  assume
• 34:46
  that
• 34:46
  you're
• 34:46
  going
• 34:46
  to
• 34:46
  have
• 34:46
  lots
• 34:47
  of
• 34:47
  weddings
• 34:47
  that
• 34:47
  next
• 34:48
  year.
• 34:48
  So
• 34:49
  especially
• 34:49
  with
• 34:49
  the
• 34:50
  competition,
• 34:50
  I,
• 34:51
  I
• 34:51
  do,
• 34:51
  I
• 34:51
  do
• 34:51
  feel
• 34:52
  a
• 34:52
  bit
• 34:52
  like
• 34:52
  heavy
• 34:53
  hearted
• 34:53
  sometimes.
• 34:54
  I'm
• 34:54
  like,
• 34:54
  come
• 34:54
  on,
• 34:55
  just
• 34:55
  keep
• 34:55
  going,
• 34:55
  keep
• 34:56
  going.
• 34:56
  But
• 34:57
  I
• 34:57
  don't
• 34:57
  want
• 34:57
  to
• 34:57
  not
• 34:57
  do
• 34:57
  this
• 34:58
  job.
• 34:58
  So
• 34:59
  if
• 34:59
  I
• 34:59
  have
• 35:00
  to
• 35:00
  keep
• 35:00
  trying
• 35:01
  and
• 35:02
  try
• 35:02
  even
• 35:02
  harder
• 35:03
  to
• 35:03
  be
• 35:04
  as
• 35:04
  good,
• 35:05
  if
• 35:05
  not
• 35:05
  better,
• 35:06
  then
• 35:06
  I
• 35:06
  will
• 35:06
  keep
• 35:07
  trying.
• 35:07
  And
• 35:07
  you
• 35:08
  are
• 35:08
  amazing.
• 35:08
  And
• 35:08
  I
• 35:09
  love
• 35:09
  it
• 35:09
  when
• 35:09
  you
• 35:09
  share
• 35:09
  videos
• 35:09
  of
• 35:10
  you
• 35:10
  singing
• 35:10
  and
• 35:10
  you
• 35:10
  don't
• 35:11
  necessarily
• 35:11
  even
• 35:11
  need
• 35:11
  to
• 35:11
  share
• 35:12
  videos
• 35:12
  of
• 35:12
  you
• 35:12
  singing
• 35:13
  at
• 35:13
  a
• 35:14
  wedding.
• 35:14
  You
• 35:14
  can
• 35:14
  just
• 35:15
  share
• 35:15
  videos
• 35:16
  of
• 35:16
  songs
• 35:16
  that
• 35:16
  people
• 35:17
  like
• 35:17
  to
• 35:17
  hear
• 35:18
  on
• 35:18
  your
• 35:18
  Instagram.
• 35:19
  And
• 35:19
  I
• 35:19
  think,
• 35:19
  you
• 35:19
  know,
• 35:20
  everything
• 35:20
  in
• 35:20
  our
• 35:20
  business
• 35:21
  is
• 35:21
  really
• 35:21
  important
• 35:21
  that
• 35:22
  we
• 35:23
  don't
• 35:23
  do
• 35:23
  things
• 35:23
  because
• 35:24
  other
• 35:24
  people
• 35:24
  are
• 35:24
  doing
• 35:24
  them,
• 35:24
  but
• 35:25
  we
• 35:25
  do
• 35:25
  things
• 35:25
  in
• 35:25
  a
• 35:25
  way
• 35:26
  that
• 35:26
  suits
• 35:26
  us
• 35:27
  and
• 35:27
  our
• 35:27
  lifestyle.
• 35:28
  And
• 35:28
  so
• 35:28
  if
• 35:29
  for
• 35:29
  you
• 35:29
  focusing
• 35:29
  on
• 35:30
  the
• 35:30
  wedding
• 35:30
  is
• 35:30
  more
• 35:30
  important,
• 35:31
  that's
• 35:31
  a
• 35:31
  selling
• 35:31
  point,
• 35:32
  right?
• 35:32
  That's
• 35:32
  a
• 35:32
  selling
• 35:33
  point
• 35:33
  to
• 35:33
  be
• 35:33
  like,
• 35:33
  I'm
• 35:34
  not
• 35:34
  here
• 35:34
  to
• 35:34
  capture
• 35:34
  content
• 35:35
  at
• 35:35
  your
• 35:35
  wedding,
• 35:35
  I'm
• 35:36
  here
• 35:36
  to
• 35:36
  sing
• 35:36
  at
• 35:36
  your
• 35:36
  wedding.
• 35:37
  And
• 35:37
  I
• 35:37
  would
• 35:37
  talk
• 35:37
  about
• 35:38
  that
• 35:38
  on
• 35:38
  social
• 35:38
  media
• 35:39
  because
• 35:39
  actually
• 35:40
  do
• 35:40
  I
• 35:40
  want
• 35:40
  a
• 35:41
  wedding
• 35:41
  singer
• 35:41
  that's
• 35:42
  followed
• 35:42
  round
• 35:42
  by
• 35:43
  someone
• 35:43
  creating
• 35:43
  content
• 35:44
  all
• 35:44
  the
• 35:44
  time,
• 35:44
  or
• 35:45
  do
• 35:45
  I
• 35:45
  want
• 35:45
  a
• 35:45
  wedding
• 35:45
  singer
• 35:46
  who's
• 35:46
  there
• 35:46
  singing
• 35:46
  at
• 35:47
  my
• 35:47
  wedding?
• 35:47
  And
• 35:47
  so
• 35:48
  actually
• 35:48
  a
• 35:48
  little
• 35:49
  bit
• 35:49
  of
• 35:49
  live
• 35:49
  coaching
• 35:50
  here.
• 35:50
  Actually
• 35:50
  I
• 35:50
  would
• 35:51
  use
• 35:51
  that
• 35:51
  as
• 35:51
  a
• 35:51
  marketing
• 35:52
  point.
• 35:52
  I
• 35:52
  would
• 35:52
  say,
• 35:53
  like,
• 35:53
  take
• 35:53
  a
• 35:53
  photo
• 35:54
  of
• 35:54
  the
• 35:54
  venue.
• 35:54
  I'm
• 35:54
  here
• 35:55
  at
• 35:56
  X
• 35:56
  venue
• 35:57
  today
• 35:57
  at
• 35:57
  this
• 35:57
  wedding.
• 35:58
  You
• 35:58
  won't
• 35:58
  see
• 35:59
  any
• 35:59
  footage
• 35:59
  because
• 35:59
  it's
• 35:59
  really
• 36:00
  important
• 36:00
  to
• 36:00
  me
• 36:00
  that
• 36:00
  all
• 36:01
  of
• 36:01
  my
• 36:01
  attention's
• 36:01
  on
• 36:01
  the
• 36:02
  couple.
• 36:02
  And
• 36:02
  use
• 36:02
  it
• 36:02
  in
• 36:03
  your
• 36:03
  marketing
• 36:03
  and
• 36:03
  save
• 36:04
  yourself
• 36:04
  time.
• 36:04
  You
• 36:04
  know
• 36:05
  how
• 36:05
  I
• 36:05
  do
• 36:05
  that?
• 36:05
  When
• 36:05
  people
• 36:05
  talk
• 36:06
  to
• 36:06
  me
• 36:06
  about
• 36:06
  my
• 36:06
  podcast
• 36:07
  and
• 36:07
  they
• 36:07
  say,
• 36:07
  you
• 36:07
  should
• 36:07
  video
• 36:08
  your
• 36:08
  podcast.
• 36:09
  You
• 36:09
  should
• 36:09
  put
• 36:09
  it
• 36:09
  on
• 36:09
  YouTube.
• 36:10
  All
• 36:10
  of
• 36:10
  the
• 36:10
  podcasters
• 36:11
  have
• 36:11
  it
• 36:11
  on
• 36:11
  YouTube
• 36:12
  and
• 36:12
  TikTok.
• 36:12
  And
• 36:13
  I
• 36:13
  say
• 36:14
  I
• 36:14
  don't
• 36:14
  want
• 36:14
  to
• 36:14
  because
• 36:15
  sometimes
• 36:15
  I
• 36:15
  want
• 36:15
  to
• 36:15
  do
• 36:16
  it
• 36:16
  in
• 36:16
  my
• 36:16
  pajamas
• 36:17
  with
• 36:17
  no
• 36:17
  makeup
• 36:18
  on.
• 36:18
  And
• 36:18
  I
• 36:18
  don't
• 36:18
  want
• 36:18
  the
• 36:19
  pressure
• 36:19
  of
• 36:19
  that.
• 36:19
  And
• 36:20
  so,
• 36:20
  you
• 36:20
  know,
• 36:20
  the
• 36:20
  whole
• 36:20
  point
• 36:21
  of
• 36:21
  having
• 36:21
  our
• 36:21
  own
• 36:21
  business
• 36:22
  is
• 36:22
  that
• 36:22
  we
• 36:22
  can
• 36:22
  do
• 36:22
  our
• 36:23
  own
• 36:23
  business
• 36:23
  our
• 36:23
  own
• 36:24
  way.
• 36:24
  So
• 36:24
  I
• 36:25
  think
• 36:25
  if
• 36:25
  it
• 36:25
  feels
• 36:26
  heavy,
• 36:26
  heavy,
• 36:26
  don't
• 36:27
  even
• 36:27
  try
• 36:27
  and
• 36:27
  film
• 36:27
  at
• 36:28
  weddings.
• 36:28
  Take
• 36:29
  that
• 36:29
  burden
• 36:29
  off.
• 36:29
  You
• 36:30
  use
• 36:30
  that
• 36:30
  as
• 36:30
  a
• 36:30
  marketing
• 36:31
  point
• 36:31
  going
• 36:32
  forward
• 36:32
  and
• 36:32
  record
• 36:33
  yourself
• 36:33
  singing
• 36:34
  in
• 36:34
  your
• 36:34
  house
• 36:34
  when
• 36:35
  your
• 36:35
  kids
• 36:35
  are
• 36:35
  napping
• 36:36
  and
• 36:36
  you've
• 36:36
  got
• 36:36
  a
• 36:36
  bit
• 36:36
  of
• 36:36
  free
• 36:37
  time
• 36:37
  and
• 36:37
  you
• 36:37
  can,
• 36:38
  like,
• 36:38
  put
• 36:38
  out
• 36:38
  requests
• 36:39
  and
• 36:39
  we
• 36:39
  can
• 36:39
  all
• 36:39
  put
• 36:39
  in
• 36:40
  our
• 36:40
  songs
• 36:40
  that
• 36:40
  we
• 36:40
  want
• 36:40
  to
• 36:40
  hear
• 36:41
  you
• 36:41
  say.
• 36:41
  There
• 36:41
  you
• 36:41
  go.
• 36:41
  Thank
• 36:42
  you
• 36:42
  for
• 36:42
  the
• 36:42
  coaching
• 36:43
  life
• 36:43
  on
• 36:43
  the
• 36:43
  podcast
• 36:45
  anytime.
• 36:46
  But
• 36:47
  honestly,
• 36:47
  I
• 36:47
  just
• 36:47
  think
• 36:48
  it's
• 36:48
  so
• 36:48
  hard,
• 36:48
  isn't
• 36:48
  it?
• 36:49
  We
• 36:49
  look
• 36:49
  at
• 36:49
  what
• 36:49
  other
• 36:49
  people
• 36:49
  are
• 36:49
  doing.
• 36:50
  I
• 36:50
  do
• 36:50
  it
• 36:50
  too.
• 36:50
  I
• 36:50
  look
• 36:51
  at
• 36:51
  people,
• 36:51
  I
• 36:51
  think,
• 36:51
  oh,
• 36:52
  that
• 36:52
  person's
• 36:52
  speaking
• 36:53
  at
• 36:53
  this
• 36:53
  event.
• 36:53
  Or
• 36:53
  this
• 36:54
  person's
• 36:54
  got
• 36:54
  50
• 36:55
  million,
• 36:55
  000
• 36:55
  followers.
• 36:56
  And
• 36:56
  then
• 36:56
  I
• 36:56
  think,
• 36:56
  well,
• 36:57
  I
• 36:57
  don't
• 36:57
  actually
• 36:57
  want
• 36:58
  to
• 36:58
  be
• 36:58
  at
• 36:58
  that
• 36:58
  event
• 36:58
  right
• 36:58
  now
• 36:59
  because
• 36:59
  I'm
• 36:59
  enjoying
• 36:59
  being
• 36:59
  at
• 37:00
  home
• 37:00
  with
• 37:00
  my
• 37:00
  kids.
• 37:00
  Or
• 37:01
  actually,
• 37:01
  they
• 37:01
  probably
• 37:02
  just
• 37:02
  bought
• 37:02
  10,000
• 37:03
  followers.
• 37:03
  So
• 37:04
  I
• 37:04
  know
• 37:04
  that
• 37:05
  mine
• 37:05
  are
• 37:05
  genuine,
• 37:05
  so
• 37:05
  I
• 37:05
  don't
• 37:06
  actually
• 37:06
  care.
• 37:07
  But
• 37:07
  it's
• 37:07
  so
• 37:07
  easy
• 37:07
  to
• 37:08
  fall
• 37:08
  into
• 37:08
  that
• 37:08
  trap.
• 37:09
  And
• 37:09
  I
• 37:09
  think
• 37:09
  every
• 37:09
  single
• 37:10
  one
• 37:10
  of
• 37:10
  us,
• 37:10
  and
• 37:10
  I'm
• 37:10
  sure
• 37:11
  a
• 37:11
  lot
• 37:11
  of
• 37:11
  people
• 37:11
  listening,
• 37:12
  do
• 37:12
  the
• 37:12
  same
• 37:13
  thing
• 37:13
  as
• 37:13
  well.
• 37:14
  Right,
• 37:14
  Rebecca,
• 37:15
  We've
• 37:15
  got
• 37:15
  to
• 37:15
  draw
• 37:16
  this
• 37:16
  to
• 37:16
  a
• 37:16
  close.
• 37:16
  Otherwise
• 37:17
  I
• 37:17
  could
• 37:17
  talk
• 37:17
  to
• 37:17
  you
• 37:18
  all
• 37:18
  day.
• 37:18
  I've
• 37:18
  really
• 37:19
  enjoyed
• 37:19
  the
• 37:19
  conversation.
• 37:19
  Thank
• 37:20
  you
• 37:20
  for
• 37:20
  sharing.
• 37:21
  Thank
• 37:21
  you
• 37:21
  for
• 37:21
  being
• 37:22
  so
• 37:22
  open
• 37:22
  and
• 37:23
  honest
• 37:23
  about
• 37:24
  the
• 37:24
  ups
• 37:24
  and
• 37:24
  downs
• 37:24
  of
• 37:24
  your
• 37:25
  business,
• 37:25
  how
• 37:25
  you
• 37:25
  juggle
• 37:26
  things
• 37:26
  in
• 37:27
  your
• 37:27
  life
• 37:27
  as
• 37:27
  well.
• 37:27
  It's
• 37:28
  been
• 37:28
  a
• 37:28
  real
• 37:29
  pleasure
• 37:29
  chatting
• 37:29
  with
• 37:30
  you.
• 37:30
  I
• 37:30
  always
• 37:31
  end
• 37:31
  the
• 37:31
  podcast
• 37:31
  with
• 37:32
  the
• 37:32
  same
• 37:32
  question,
• 37:32
  so
• 37:32
  I'm
• 37:32
  going
• 37:33
  to
• 37:33
  pose
• 37:33
  that
• 37:33
  to
• 37:33
  you
• 37:33
  now.
• 37:34
  It's
• 37:34
  what's
• 37:34
  one
• 37:35
  thing
• 37:35
  you
• 37:35
  wish
• 37:35
  you'd
• 37:36
  known
• 37:36
  sooner
• 37:37
  in
• 37:37
  your
• 37:37
  own
• 37:37
  business?
• 37:38
  I
• 37:38
  think
• 37:39
  to
• 37:39
  have
• 37:39
  a
• 37:39
  crystal
• 37:39
  ball,
• 37:40
  which
• 37:40
  you
• 37:40
  can't
• 37:40
  do,
• 37:40
  and
• 37:41
  just
• 37:41
  know
• 37:41
  that
• 37:41
  it
• 37:41
  will
• 37:41
  be
• 37:42
  okay
• 37:42
  and
• 37:42
  you'll
• 37:42
  be
• 37:42
  successful
• 37:43
  and
• 37:43
  there'll
• 37:44
  be
• 37:44
  ups
• 37:44
  and
• 37:45
  downs,
• 37:45
  but
• 37:46
  keep
• 37:46
  going.
• 37:47
  Also,
• 37:47
  maybe
• 37:48
  joining
• 37:48
  TikTok
• 37:49
  earlier
• 37:49
  because,
• 37:49
  my
• 37:50
  goodness,
• 37:50
  I
• 37:50
  just
• 37:51
  thought
• 37:51
  it
• 37:51
  was
• 37:51
  Something
• 37:51
  that
• 37:51
  people
• 37:52
  did
• 37:52
  dances
• 37:52
  on
• 37:52
  and
• 37:53
  it
• 37:53
  is
• 37:53
  not.
• 37:53
  It's
• 37:53
  a
• 37:53
  real
• 37:54
  good
• 37:55
  tool,
• 37:57
  which
• 37:57
  I,
• 37:57
  yeah,
• 37:58
  wish
• 37:58
  I'd
• 37:58
  started
• 37:58
  earlier.
• 37:59
  But
• 37:59
  everything
• 37:59
  else
• 38:00
  I
• 38:00
  do
• 38:00
  feel
• 38:00
  is
• 38:01
  an
• 38:01
  organic
• 38:01
  way
• 38:01
  of
• 38:02
  my.
• 38:02
  Of
• 38:03
  me
• 38:04
  growing
• 38:04
  my
• 38:04
  business.
• 38:05
  I
• 38:05
  don't
• 38:05
  think
• 38:06
  there's
• 38:06
  much
• 38:06
  else
• 38:06
  I
• 38:06
  could
• 38:07
  have
• 38:07
  changed,
• 38:07
  to
• 38:07
  be
• 38:07
  honest,
• 38:08
  as
• 38:08
  arrogant
• 38:09
  as
• 38:09
  that
• 38:09
  might
• 38:09
  sound.
• 38:10
  No,
• 38:11
  it
• 38:11
  doesn't
• 38:11
  sound
• 38:11
  arrogant
• 38:12
  at
• 38:12
  all
• 38:12
  because
• 38:12
  it's
• 38:12
  your
• 38:13
  journey.
• 38:13
  I
• 38:13
  wouldn't
• 38:13
  change
• 38:13
  anything
• 38:14
  I've
• 38:14
  done
• 38:14
  either
• 38:15
  when
• 38:15
  I
• 38:15
  look
• 38:15
  back.
• 38:15
  But
• 38:15
  I
• 38:16
  do
• 38:16
  think
• 38:16
  all
• 38:16
  of
• 38:17
  us
• 38:17
  would
• 38:17
  like
• 38:17
  a
• 38:17
  crystal
• 38:17
  ball
• 38:18
  for
• 38:18
  sure.
• 38:18
  And
• 38:18
  I
• 38:18
  think
• 38:19
  I
• 38:19
  love
• 38:19
  that
• 38:19
  trend
• 38:19
  where
• 38:19
  people
• 38:20
  go
• 38:20
  back
• 38:20
  and
• 38:20
  talk
• 38:21
  to
• 38:21
  their,
• 38:21
  you
• 38:21
  know,
• 38:22
  talk
• 38:22
  to
• 38:22
  themselves
• 38:22
  when
• 38:23
  they
• 38:23
  were
• 38:23
  12,
• 38:23
  whatever,
• 38:23
  on
• 38:24
  Instagram
• 38:24
  at
• 38:24
  the
• 38:24
  moment.
• 38:25
  And
• 38:25
  I
• 38:25
  think,
• 38:25
  yeah,
• 38:25
  actually,
• 38:26
  I
• 38:26
  wish
• 38:26
  I,
• 38:26
  I
• 38:26
  could
• 38:27
  go
• 38:27
  back
• 38:27
  and
• 38:27
  tell
• 38:27
  Becca,
• 38:28
  who
• 38:28
  had
• 38:29
  a
• 38:29
  baby
• 38:29
  and
• 38:29
  a
• 38:29
  toddler,
• 38:30
  it's
• 38:30
  going
• 38:31
  to
• 38:31
  be
• 38:31
  okay.
• 38:31
  One
• 38:31
  day
• 38:31
  you're
• 38:31
  going
• 38:32
  to
• 38:32
  get
• 38:32
  to
• 38:32
  go
• 38:32
  to
• 38:32
  Las
• 38:32
  Vegas
• 38:33
  and
• 38:33
  you're
• 38:33
  not
• 38:33
  always
• 38:33
  going
• 38:34
  to
• 38:34
  be
• 38:34
  crying
• 38:34
  in
• 38:35
  your
• 38:35
  front
• 38:35
  room
• 38:35
  because
• 38:35
  the
• 38:35
  kids
• 38:36
  are
• 38:36
  driving
• 38:36
  you
• 38:36
  crazy
• 38:37
  and
• 38:37
  you're
• 38:37
  exhausted.
• 38:38
  Actually,
• 38:39
  one
• 38:39
  day
• 38:39
  it's
• 38:40
  going
• 38:40
  to
• 38:40
  get
• 38:40
  better
• 38:40
  and
• 38:40
  your
• 38:41
  business
• 38:41
  will
• 38:41
  grow
• 38:41
  and
• 38:41
  you'll
• 38:42
  look
• 38:42
  back
• 38:42
  and
• 38:42
  you'll
• 38:42
  be
• 38:42
  really
• 38:43
  proud.
• 38:43
  And
• 38:44
  so
• 38:44
  even
• 38:44
  now
• 38:45
  you
• 38:45
  can
• 38:45
  look
• 38:45
  forward
• 38:45
  and
• 38:46
  know
• 38:46
  that
• 38:46
  in
• 38:47
  a
• 38:47
  decade's
• 38:47
  time,
• 38:48
  you'll
• 38:48
  be
• 38:48
  looking
• 38:48
  at
• 38:48
  the
• 38:49
  Rebecca
• 38:49
  on
• 38:49
  this
• 38:49
  podcast
• 38:50
  today,
• 38:50
  listening
• 38:50
  back
• 38:50
  to
• 38:50
  this
• 38:51
  and
• 38:51
  knowing,
• 38:51
  actually,
• 38:52
  I'm
• 38:52
  really
• 38:52
  proud
• 38:52
  that
• 38:52
  I
• 38:52
  got
• 38:53
  through
• 38:53
  that
• 38:53
  and
• 38:53
  look
• 38:53
  at
• 38:53
  what
• 38:54
  I've
• 38:54
  achieved
• 38:55
  now.
• 38:55
  Rekka,
• 38:56
  it's
• 38:56
  been
• 38:56
  so
• 38:56
  much
• 38:57
  fun
• 38:57
  chatting
• 38:57
  to
• 38:57
  you.
• 38:57
  If
• 38:57
  people
• 38:58
  want
• 38:58
  find
• 38:58
  out
• 38:58
  more
• 38:59
  about
• 38:59
  you,
• 38:59
  find
• 38:59
  out
• 38:59
  more
• 39:00
  or
• 39:00
  even
• 39:00
  watch
• 39:00
  some
• 39:00
  of
• 39:01
  you
• 39:01
  singing,
• 39:01
  where's
• 39:02
  the
• 39:02
  best
• 39:02
  places
• 39:02
  for
• 39:02
  them
• 39:02
  to
• 39:03
  find
• 39:03
  you?
• 39:03
  So
• 39:03
  Instagram's
• 39:04
  regularly
• 39:04
  updated,
• 39:05
  so
• 39:05
  Rebecca
• 39:05
  Cole
• 39:06
  or
• 39:06
  I
• 39:06
  am
• 39:06
  on
• 39:07
  Facebook.
• 39:07
  Yeah,
• 39:07
  mainly
• 39:08
  Instagram.
• 39:09
  And
• 39:09
  yeah,
• 39:10
  just
• 39:10
  stop
• 39:10
  on
• 39:11
  by,
• 39:11
  say.
• 39:11
  Hi,
• 39:12
  give
• 39:12
  me
• 39:12
  a
• 39:12
  follow,
• 39:13
  please,
• 39:14
  and
• 39:15
  Tick
• 39:15
  Tock.
• 39:15
  Presumably
• 39:16
  now
• 39:16
  that
• 39:16
  you
• 39:16
  know
• 39:16
  you're
• 39:17
  on.
• 39:17
  Tick
• 39:17
  Tick
• 39:18
  Tock,
• 39:18
  but
• 39:18
  not
• 39:18
  many
• 39:19
  followers.
• 39:19
  So,
• 39:19
  yeah,
• 39:20
  you
• 39:20
  know,
• 39:20
  help
• 39:20
  a
• 39:20
  girl
• 39:20
  out
• 39:21
  and
• 39:21
  give
• 39:21
  me
• 39:21
  a
• 39:21
  follow
• 39:21
  on
• 39:21
  Tick
• 39:22
  Tock.
• 39:22
  Get
• 39:23
  this
• 39:23
  grandma
• 39:23
  up
• 39:24
  to
• 39:24
  date
• 39:24
  with
• 39:24
  what's
• 39:24
  going
• 39:25
  on.
• 39:26
  Seriously.
• 39:26
  And
• 39:26
  I
• 39:27
  went
• 39:27
  to
• 39:27
  the
• 39:27
  school
• 39:27
  careers
• 39:27
  fair
• 39:28
  last
• 39:28
  week
• 39:28
  and
• 39:28
  I
• 39:28
  was
• 39:28
  showing
• 39:29
  them
• 39:29
  all
• 39:29
  Instagram.
• 39:30
  So
• 39:30
  many
• 39:30
  of
• 39:30
  them
• 39:30
  asked
• 39:30
  me,
• 39:31
  I
• 39:31
  was
• 39:31
  like,
• 39:31
  look
• 39:31
  how
• 39:31
  many
• 39:31
  followers
• 39:32
  I've
• 39:32
  got.
• 39:32
  Instagram,
• 39:33
  4,000.
• 39:33
  And
• 39:33
  they
• 39:33
  were
• 39:33
  like,
• 39:34
  how
• 39:34
  many
• 39:34
  on
• 39:34
  TikTok?
• 39:35
  I
• 39:35
  was
• 39:35
  like,
• 39:35
  let's
• 39:35
  not
• 39:35
  talk
• 39:35
  about
• 39:36
  that
• 39:36
  because
• 39:36
  I'm
• 39:37
  old
• 39:37
  and
• 39:38
  you're
• 39:38
  not.
• 39:38
  But
• 39:39
  it
• 39:39
  did.
• 39:39
  Again,
• 39:39
  looking
• 39:40
  at
• 39:40
  these
• 39:40
  kids
• 39:40
  coming
• 39:41
  through
• 39:41
  the
• 39:41
  careers
• 39:41
  fair
• 39:41
  in
• 39:42
  year
• 39:42
  eight
• 39:42
  and
• 39:42
  how
• 39:43
  much
• 39:43
  they're
• 39:43
  on
• 39:43
  TikTok
• 39:44
  I'm
• 39:44
  like,
• 39:44
  this
• 39:44
  is
• 39:45
  coming
• 39:45
  like
• 39:45
  a
• 39:45
  steam
• 39:45
  train
• 39:46
  and
• 39:46
  we
• 39:46
  need
• 39:46
  to
• 39:46
  jump
• 39:47
  on
• 39:47
  it
• 39:47
  and
• 39:47
  we
• 39:47
  need
• 39:47
  to
• 39:47
  stop
• 39:48
  being
• 39:48
  grandmas,
• 39:49
  even
• 39:49
  though
• 39:49
  we
• 39:49
  feel
• 39:50
  like
• 39:50
  we're
• 39:50
  too
• 39:50
  old
• 39:51
  for
• 39:51
  TikTok.
• 39:51
  Rebecca,
• 39:52
  it's
• 39:52
  been
• 39:52
  so
• 39:52
  much
• 39:53
  fun.
• 39:53
  I'll
• 39:53
  make
• 39:53
  sure
• 39:53
  I
• 39:53
  put
• 39:54
  all
• 39:54
  of
• 39:54
  your
• 39:54
  links
• 39:54
  in
• 39:55
  the
• 39:55
  show
• 39:55
  notes.
• 39:55
  If
• 39:55
  you're
• 39:55
  listening
• 39:56
  to
• 39:56
  this
• 39:56
  and
• 39:56
  you've
• 39:56
  enjoyed
• 39:56
  our
• 39:57
  conversation,
• 39:57
  do
• 39:57
  reach
• 39:57
  out
• 39:57
  to
• 39:58
  Rebecca.
• 39:58
  Rebecca,
• 39:58
  say
• 39:59
  hello.
• 39:59
  And
• 39:59
  if
• 39:59
  you
• 40:00
  want
• 40:00
  to
• 40:00
  get
• 40:00
  to
• 40:00
  know
• 40:00
  her
• 40:01
  further
• 40:01
  or
• 40:02
  you
• 40:02
  want
• 40:02
  to
• 40:02
  get
• 40:02
  to
• 40:02
  know
• 40:03
  me
• 40:03
  better
• 40:03
  and
• 40:04
  you
• 40:04
  want
• 40:04
  to
• 40:04
  get
• 40:04
  your
• 40:04
  business
• 40:05
  on
• 40:05
  track,
• 40:05
  why
• 40:06
  not
• 40:06
  consider
• 40:06
  joining
• 40:06
  the
• 40:07
  members
• 40:07
  lounge?
• 40:07
  We'd
• 40:08
  love
• 40:08
  to
• 40:08
  welcome
• 40:08
  you,
• 40:08
  Rebecca.
• 40:09
  I
• 40:09
  will
• 40:09
  see
• 40:09
  you
• 40:10
  soon,
• 40:10
  hopefully.
• 40:10
  Take
• 40:11
  care.
• 40:11
  Thanks
• 40:12
  so
• 40:12
  much
• 40:12
  for
• 40:12
  having
• 40:12
  me.
• 40:12
  Bye.
• 40:13
  What
• 40:13
  a
• 40:13
  fantastic
• 40:14
  conversation.
• 40:15
  I
• 40:15
  always
• 40:15
  really
• 40:16
  enjoy
• 40:16
  chatting
• 40:16
  with
• 40:16
  my
• 40:17
  members
• 40:17
  because
• 40:17
  I
• 40:17
  get
• 40:18
  to
• 40:18
  find
• 40:18
  out
• 40:18
  more
• 40:18
  about
• 40:18
  their
• 40:19
  businesses,
• 40:19
  find
• 40:19
  out
• 40:20
  more
• 40:20
  about
• 40:20
  their
• 40:20
  backgrounds
• 40:21
  and
• 40:21
  see
• 40:22
  what's
• 40:22
  going
• 40:22
  on
• 40:22
  and
• 40:22
  what
• 40:23
  they've
• 40:23
  learned
• 40:23
  over
• 40:24
  their
• 40:24
  time.
• 40:24
  And
• 40:24
  I
• 40:25
  really
• 40:25
  enjoyed
• 40:25
  that
• 40:25
  conversation.
• 40:26
  Hopefully
• 40:26
  you
• 40:26
  took
• 40:27
  something
• 40:27
  away
• 40:27
  from
• 40:27
  it
• 40:28
  that,
• 40:28
  you
• 40:28
  know,
• 40:29
  we
• 40:29
  can
• 40:29
  just
• 40:30
  work
• 40:30
  things
• 40:30
  out
• 40:30
  as
• 40:31
  we
• 40:31
  go
• 40:31
  along,
• 40:31
  but
• 40:31
  a
• 40:31
  little
• 40:32
  bit
• 40:32
  of
• 40:32
  help
• 40:32
  along
• 40:32
  the
• 40:32
  way
• 40:33
  can
• 40:33
  help
• 40:33
  fast
• 40:33
  track
• 40:34
  that
• 40:34
  too.
• 40:34
  I'll
• 40:35
  see
• 40:35
  you
• 40:35
  next
• 40:35
  time.