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- 0:00Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of the Profitable Christian Business Podcast.
- 0:06I am really, really pleased, especially after reading her bio and learning a little bit more about her.
- 0:11I am so pleased that Janine Mix is joining us today on the podcast.
- 0:16Janine, how are you today?
- 0:19I'm so good.
- 0:20It is sunny and warm in Arizona and I'm very excited for this conversation.
- 0:28Well, I can't wait for people to learn a little bit more about your story and some of the insights that you'll be able to offer them from going from where you were to where you are
- 0:37now.
- 0:38We're gonna get, I know we're gonna get a lot into faith and mindset and all those good things.
- 0:43I'm sure the audience will get a lot from that.
- 0:45But for now, why don't you just give a quick brief introduction.
- 0:49Yeah, I'm a Christian entrepreneur, real estate investor.
- 0:54um I went from six figures in debt to becoming a multimillionaire by the time I was 33.
- 1:01And I didn't get there by skipping my lattes, which you'll learn a little bit more about in my book.
- 1:10And yeah, I just.
- 1:12became a best selling author.
- 1:13I was just in New York with my book on Times Square, which was super surreal, such a God moment.
- 1:19um And yeah, I'm excited to share, like how I came from nothing, literally nothing, in fact, six figures to becoming a multimillionaire and doing it, like with God at the center
- 1:33of everything, because I think that there's a little bit of misunderstanding in the church of pursuing success and wealth.
- 1:41meaning that you also can't in tandem pursue God.
- 1:45So I'm very, very excited to share a little bit more about that.
- 1:48That is awesome.
- 1:49That is right up with the theme of this podcast.
- 1:52uh I always like to mention that, yes, profitable in our name in the profitable Christian business is not just profitable for your business, it's profitable for the kingdom.
- 2:01And I know we're gonna dive into that and you can be more profitable for the kingdom if your business is more profitable.
- 2:06So, uh some really, really good.
- 2:08I have some fun getting to know you questions that I like to start off every podcast with.
- 2:13So, uh
- 2:14Your first one is if you could get a one-way ticket anywhere in the world to celebrate your next money milestone, where you're going, and what's the first thing you do when you
- 2:23land.
- 2:24love this question, except for I travel all the time.
- 2:28I just hit my country.
- 2:31um I hit my 50th country this year, which was Bolivia.
- 2:35I turned 40.
- 2:37So if I have to answer this question, I am trying to figure out a very unique cool trip for my 40th where I have some family members and friends meet up with me.
- 2:47I kind of want to do like three weeks in Europe.
- 2:49um
- 2:50I would love to do a train with my mom because we love trains and have a few days with her and then see her off at the airport and pick someone else up.
- 2:57And so I kind of have this like this relay this tag and relay idea that I want to do for my 40th but travel and spending money on experiences has always been a priority of mine.
- 3:09And so I love to travel.
- 3:10It's a part of my
- 3:12everyday life, not just my one time a year and not just my when I'm 65 and then I'm retired and then I'm debt free and then you know, there's no and then no and then um it's
- 3:23my now it's my reality because we get this one precious life and God has created some pretty amazing people cultures and places to see and I just want to see it all.
- 3:33That is awesome.
- 3:34I'm sure there are many people that are listening that are in the grind, right?
- 3:38Christian entrepreneurs, they're like, they never take a vacation because it's all hustle and grind.
- 3:43So it is inspiring, I'm sure, to hear that you live life by your terms because you are able to build the way you wanted it, you wanted to so that your business works around your
- 3:54lifestyle.
- 3:55Yeah, my husband and I were just having this deep conversation about this yesterday about how we're so grateful how we have built our businesses to really reflect the life that we
- 4:07want to live.
- 4:08And we've seen and idolized a lot of successful entrepreneurs that we see are like, only now do they do a trip to Colorado to go fly fishing or just started scuba diving.
- 4:21And we're just like, we have been doing that.
- 4:24from the beginning, even when we love credit card hacking.
- 4:28So even when we were broke, and we started our business and you're just like, where am I gonna get a flight?
- 4:35We credit card hacked, we put all of our business expenses on, we were able to travel internationally every single year for the last decade for free using credit card points
- 4:44and not paying any interest.
- 4:46So we got really creative, we always made it a priority.
- 4:49but we see so many people hustling and building this business and getting to a point where they're just completely burnt out.
- 4:56And we're building and launching some new things right now.
- 4:58And we're being really mindful of how we build and with what kind of energy.
- 5:04Like, you know, I don't want to be in this starvation energy hustle mode where then you don't get to live.
- 5:10think having that balance is absolutely possible.
- 5:13I think there's a lot of people like you got to give up everything, anything fun, and you just have to focus.
- 5:18you do have to focus, but I think you can enjoy vacation and enjoy your family and should because at the end of the day, if you and I were diagnosed with a life-threatening disease
- 5:28and had 10 days to live, probably the last thing we would do is work.
- 5:32I'm like, I want to make sure that I'm experiencing the world and creating memories and spending time with them and the people that matter to you the most.
- 5:45Yeah, that is awesome.
- 5:46Much like you, my family, we spend more money on experiences and travel than we do on a lot of things because we really feel like that's what life is about, is to travel and
- 5:57experience things.
- 5:58With that in mind, since you've told me that you've visited 55 countries, do you have a favorite place that you've visited?
- 6:05Well, it's 50.
- 6:06It was my 50th.
- 6:08I, I would say, um, Spain has always been on my top of my list.
- 6:13It has been a place that I absolutely love.
- 6:15There's just, I love like a good tempered Neo and paella and it just had my vibe.
- 6:21has that slow pace.
- 6:22It's got siesta, you know, they just like close down in the middle of day and enjoy life and then come back to work.
- 6:27think they've figured something out in, uh, the quality of life.
- 6:31So I love Spain.
- 6:32Um, we just went to Finland.
- 6:35I would say like Iceland, Iceland was one of the most beautiful places that I feel like I should go there every to see every season.
- 6:45yeah, I loved New Zealand.
- 6:48I mean, you really can't go wrong.
- 6:50I did hit my 50th in Bolivia.
- 6:52I wouldn't necessarily like suggest going to Bolivia.
- 6:55It was fine.
- 6:57I think that um kind of depends on the kind of trip that you want to have.
- 7:02Bolivia and a lot of third world countries are very, very difficult to get in and out of and travel and navigate.
- 7:09I, you always come back.
- 7:10I love Africa.
- 7:11I've been to Africa the most.
- 7:13I love Kenya.
- 7:14It's probably one of my favorite places in the world.
- 7:16And you have to get used to like, when you get back home, like you get to use toilet paper at your leisure.
- 7:24You get to not stress out about water, which is crazy.
- 7:28These are the things that we should be really grateful that we have the
- 7:31ability to get but you're constantly worried about am I going to have clean water?
- 7:35Do I need to brush my teeth with the different water?
- 7:37Like, it's um definitely a different adjustment.
- 7:40So it depends on the kind of vibe you want on your trip.
- 7:43But I can I we climbed Kilimanjaro last year, I can sleep in a tent and go to you know, go to the bathroom in the wild.
- 7:49That's fine.
- 7:51But I also am getting a little older and enjoying more like resorts to
- 7:56Yeah.
- 7:58I had a guest recently on the podcast.
- 8:00One of the things that we reflected on was as Americans, we don't realize it.
- 8:04We've already kind of won the lottery, right?
- 8:06Because we're in the top percentage of the world population.
- 8:09We have a lot to be grateful for just for that.
- 8:13He was he actually was an immigrant from South Africa.
- 8:16And he just talked about we talked about the difference of when an immigrant comes to this country and their drive is totally different.
- 8:23If we could bottle up a lot of that
- 8:25uh drive that they have and take it with us as Americans, we would see all kinds of changes in this country.
- 8:34So I want to allude to your book just a little bit.
- 8:38You wrote the book, Buy the Damn Coffee.
- 8:40So what's your personal go-to coffee order?
- 8:45love a latte with a little bit of honey.
- 8:48I'm boring.
- 8:49I don't like it too sweet.
- 8:50That's why I like the honey but I love espresso.
- 8:52I think decaf shouldn't even exist because what's the point?
- 8:56Coffee doesn't taste that good.
- 8:58I like I like espresso more than I like drip for sure.
- 9:02But um mine's a honey latte.
- 9:05That's my go to for sure.
- 9:06And then I also love a good like seasonal.
- 9:08um Like uh
- 9:12I've had like a honeycomb latte, which is like slightly different seasonings in there.
- 9:16That's probably like my go-to in the fall, although I don't think I'll be having much of that in Arizona.
- 9:21That was more of a Montana thing.
- 9:22You know, the whole pumpkin latte seasons.
- 9:25I did have my first October here in Arizona this year and I was like, you can't do fall.
- 9:32Like this is weird.
- 9:33It's 120 and having a pumpkin latte is not the same.
- 9:37So I'm gonna just.
- 9:39foliage, there's no leaves.
- 9:41It's weird.
- 9:42I'm like, there's not enough pumpkin flavored things to sell at Trader Joe's to make me feel like we're in autumn.
- 9:49Right, yeah, so you referenced, so Arizona is something new to you, I take it.
- 9:53So you recently moved there, that's pretty cool.
- 9:55So I'm just gonna go back to the coffee real quick, because we love coffee as a family.
- 10:02uh We are coffee snobs and a little bit of that.
- 10:06One of the places we went to, when we went to Hawaii recently, we're so nerdy that we went to the coffee farms, right?
- 10:14So is there a place, since you've been to so many countries, is there a place where you,
- 10:18I love the coffee more than any other place.
- 10:21You know, no, I mean, Ethiopia has amazing coffee.
- 10:25Hawaii has great like the Kona coffee or what is that like where you maybe went but yeah, no, I like locally roasted usually fresh roasted.
- 10:37mean, I got I ended up purchasing a nice coffee machine for the house even though I'm like buy the damn coffee.
- 10:43I did just recently like, um watch a reel though that was like, yes, I can make a coffee at home but does getting a coffee give me the will to live?
- 10:53When you're like that mid day you just want to go see your barista like there's nothing greater than walking in to your favorite coffee shop them saying good morning Jeanine.
- 11:03They already know what you want.
- 11:04Like there's just like nothing greater.
- 11:06I love that experience.
- 11:07um But yeah, I'm not I'm not as snooty about where
- 11:11the origin of the beans come from necessarily, but I typically like to support local businesses by their local beans versus I used to work for Starbucks.
- 11:20um And so I would say that's not the place I get my coffee anymore.
- 11:26Same here.
- 11:27tend to if there is a alternative to Starbucks wherever we are, we usually would go there if it's a local coffee shop just to support the local business.
- 11:36That's really cool.
- 11:37One of the staples of the Profitful Christian Business podcast is the fill in the blank question.
- 11:43So your fill in the blank question is prosperity begins when you finally believe blank.
- 11:51Prosperity begins when you finally believe you're worthy of wealth and that God doesn't want you to stay broke.
- 11:59Hmm, nice nice.
- 12:00So that is going to allude I think very well into our secret question, which is another staple of the podcast What is the secret to believing you're worthy of Wealth?
- 12:10Mmm.
- 12:13Man, what's the secret?
- 12:16I think it's knowing to understand that you're truly worthy of wealth, you have to really understand what has impacted your mindset around wealth.
- 12:31And I know you have this uh potentially in some future questions, uh but I talk about money influencers because
- 12:39You won't believe you're worthy of wealth because what you've heard, what you have learned, or what you have experienced around money.
- 12:47Those three money influencers started very young for you, young for me, you know, like, and they shape our beliefs around money.
- 12:56How many of us have gone to church and felt like, well, I'm supposed to sell all my possessions and be a missionary.
- 13:02That's the way to...
- 13:04God's heart, that's the way to a prosperous life is to give up everything.
- 13:08Well, for some people, that's the calling on their life, but everybody has a different calling.
- 13:13Some people are called the missionary.
- 13:14Some people are called to the marketplace.
- 13:17And so um I'm sure many of us have grown up with sayings like money doesn't grow on trees.
- 13:25You have to work hard for money.
- 13:27Wealthy people are greedy.
- 13:29Don't be greedy.
- 13:31know, money is evil.
- 13:32That's probably the number one misinterpreted scripture I've heard oh constantly about money is that money is the root of all evil.
- 13:41The actual verse is for the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil.
- 13:47And so it comes back to your heart and your posture and greed.
- 13:51um so money is just the tool.
- 13:54Money is not, it's amoral.
- 13:56It doesn't have feelings.
- 13:57It's not good.
- 13:57It's not bad.
- 13:58It's simply a resource that we have and we can use it just like a knife.
- 14:04I can use a knife to cut up a salad or I can use it to stab someone.
- 14:07How I use the tool changes.
- 14:09um You know, it doesn't change the tool.
- 14:12The knife is a knife.
- 14:14It's how I use it and what my intention behind using that tool is.
- 14:18So that's how I feel about money as well.
- 14:20um
- 14:21So those things that we heard constantly from our parents and maybe your parents had some different sayings, you know, that they said all the time or maybe you always heard your
- 14:30mom be like, I got this on sale.
- 14:31I got this on sale.
- 14:32I got this on sale, you know, like, well, you know, it was 50 % off, you know, why do they, why does she need to justify that so much?
- 14:40Right?
- 14:40That's a money story for her somewhere where she doesn't feel worthy of full price or she feels bad for spending money.
- 14:46So therefore she has to justify the purchase.
- 14:48I mean, that's the whole movement around by the damn coffee.
- 14:51Why I named my book that was it's a movement away from the shame and the guilt of this coffee theory that like it's the coffee that's keeping you broke said literally no
- 15:02successful top one percent person ever in any interview.
- 15:06Literally, there's so many great interview shows you could listen to not one not one of them is like, you know what got me here?
- 15:12I cut out the $5 latte.
- 15:15So, you know, what you heard, what you learned, what you experienced.
- 15:19Did you go through a divorce?
- 15:20Did you go through a death?
- 15:21Have you lost a job?
- 15:23Have you come from poverty?
- 15:25Have you come from hard situations?
- 15:27Those things will shape your behaviors, your beliefs, and your um thinking around money.
- 15:34So when you think about like, where did it stem from?
- 15:38Why do I not feel worthy of wealth?
- 15:39You have to identify where it came from.
- 15:43When you identify where it came from,
- 15:45Then you can start rewriting the story.
- 15:48Then you can start asking yourself, well, is this actually true or is this just something I've grown up believing?
- 15:54my gosh, I've had, I've worked with so many people.
- 15:56I've spoken on stages that people are like, I spoke at an event the uh couple months ago and there were two brothers in the same conference.
- 16:05One brother grew up with the rich dad um where they had money, but then the dad lost the wealth.
- 16:11The second brother grew up with the poorest dingy dad.
- 16:14They had totally different experiences and relationship with money simply based on where they were and their circumstances in the same house.
- 16:24And I was like, this is cool.
- 16:25So like we worked through that and some of the resentment or some of the different things that they believed about money based on the experience, the event.
- 16:35So I really think you have to understand that before you can.
- 16:40Accept that you're worthy like you should just know you're worthy like God's not like hey, you're worthy of everything I offer except for money Except for money, you know, like no
- 16:50no, no God transforms all areas of our life including our money.
- 16:55So That is already innately there for us to tap into to test our heart and our stewardship It's the only thing he says test them in and I think there's something unique about that
- 17:06because you have to work through a lot of baggage with money
- 17:08You have to work through a lot of baggage and at multiple levels.
- 17:11When you get money, when you become uh financially free, you got to work through those same beliefs through different levels of your finances too.
- 17:19It doesn't just go away, uh but then you can recognize them and pivot faster and know like, this a limited belief I have around money or is this actually like true?
- 17:31Can we uh really quick dive into part of that?
- 17:33And that is the practical steps for someone that has a negative, have grew up in a negative mindset around money, that sort of thing.
- 17:43I have some insights into that for my own life.
- 17:45It's like you start getting around, you put different information in, right?
- 17:49And you take yourself out of environments.
- 17:51We've heard of the cycle of poverty.
- 17:53That's because they stay in the environment of that mindset.
- 17:55You can literally, you came from deep debt.
- 18:00to something, right?
- 18:01You can literally come from nothing and become something.
- 18:05It's all about what goes into your mind, right?
- 18:07And what you allow to stay there.
- 18:09So I would love for you to just expand on that a little.
- 18:12Yeah, well what's really hard is when you're broke and you're starving and you could barely pay your bills and you're going into debt just to pay your bills, you cannot see
- 18:19the light at the end of the tunnel.
- 18:20It is very easy to say just change your mindset.
- 18:22But when you're in it, you're suffering.
- 18:25You feel like the whole world is against you.
- 18:28You feel this heavy weight.
- 18:29It sucks, okay?
- 18:31It does not feel good and it is really, really hard to just be like, uh you know what?
- 18:36I just need to be positive and money will flow to me.
- 18:39Yes, and no you have to change your mindset from a what I say is the poverty mine into the prosperity mine Simply being that one will always see the glass half empty.
- 18:52The other will always see opportunity.
- 18:55So, okay You're not a victim to your life.
- 18:59That's really hard again when you're suffering and you're going through a circumstance where you feel like everything's coming at you and it always usually does you know, it's
- 19:07like a
- 19:08It's like, what is it like comes in threes like it's usually like you just get hit and hit and hit and hit and you feel like you can never get out.
- 19:15It's just so like stressful and painful and like I know those feelings so well.
- 19:23I used to cry on my floor like of my cockroach filled apartment that I couldn't shower in or eat in because I had like a family a whole colony of cockroaches and cause that's all I
- 19:34could afford.
- 19:35So like, I get it when you're at that part, it's really hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel.
- 19:39So the first thing that I say is like, you have to accept that your circumstances are temporary.
- 19:46Everything is temporary.
- 19:47This life is temporary.
- 19:48This day is temporary.
- 19:49This hour that we have together is temporary.
- 19:52All right?
- 19:53So it's not forever.
- 19:55It won't be forever unless you stay in the poverty mine, unless you stay in victimhood, unless you just stay there.
- 20:02So there has to be a shift a shift in your mind, but also there has to be action, right?
- 20:08So like, you can believe money is going to flow to me and go spend money like a mad person who just doesn't have it and doesn't have a clue and is like God will provide and I've
- 20:18seen that too.
- 20:19And it's gonna hurt you, it's gonna come back to bite you.
- 20:22So you know, there's this balance of action meeting the movement into the prosperity mind like believing that you're worthy believing this is temporary.
- 20:31because everything is temporary.
- 20:33promise you it won't feel like this forever.
- 20:35I promise you that time heals.
- 20:37I promise you that you can change your circumstances.
- 20:39My story is like a little story of so many other stories that I have heard of people coming from nothing.
- 20:46We were just kind of mentioning like, you know, people that come from impoverished third world countries that come to our country that all of a sudden are like, I just saw a story
- 20:55of someone who sold WhatsApp.
- 20:57to Facebook.
- 20:58He came from nothing.
- 20:59He was an immigrant.
- 21:00Like he came from absolutely nothing.
- 21:02He was turned down to bite to even work at Facebook.
- 21:05And years later, he's selling WhatsApp for like billions of dollars to Facebook.
- 21:09How cool is that?
- 21:10That is possible for them.
- 21:11You have to believe it's possible for you.
- 21:13Right.
- 21:13But then we want to be like, well, I think as Christians, this is another big one.
- 21:18We like to be like, well, I shouldn't want wealth.
- 21:20So you know, money isn't the thing.
- 21:23It's not my priority.
- 21:24It's not about the money.
- 21:26Well, if you keep saying that, you're gonna keep pushing opportunities away too.
- 21:29And I think there's like a false humility in that, that is still like reiterating to yourself that you're not worthy, that it won't happen for you.
- 21:41And so I think instead of pushing away wealth, even if we think it's like the more holy thing to do, I shouldn't want that, I shouldn't focus on it.
- 21:51Um, you know, I think that we actually do need to focus on it.
- 21:54I think it was very important to Jesus.
- 21:56In fact, two thirds of his messages were around parables of wealth, money.
- 22:00And, so it was obviously important to him.
- 22:03It should be important to us.
- 22:04What can we learn from that?
- 22:05You know, like what is he refining in us with our money?
- 22:08What is he testing us in our money?
- 22:10But it's absolutely important to him.
- 22:12So it should be important to you.
- 22:13Jesus paid taxes too.
- 22:14Let's not forget.
- 22:15Like he lived as a human.
- 22:17Jesus paid taxes too.
- 22:18Jesus still needed money to survive.
- 22:21needed clothes, needed food, and he was provided for by people in the marketplace.
- 22:29And there's another part of this where it's like you're called to be a blessing, not just to bless yourself and your life, but to bless others.
- 22:37And how cool that a lot of marketplace women funded Jesus' mission.
- 22:43If you wanna go do something great in the world, it's gonna require provision, financial provision.
- 22:51anything.
- 22:51mean, sure, you could go live in a mountain off the grid, completely like not leaving a carbon footprint.
- 23:00Okay.
- 23:00And like, I'm, I'm protecting the planet and all these things.
- 23:03I actually think that's a really selfish way to live because what are you doing for others?
- 23:07You know, and so this, this tool, this ability to create money and wealth can actually help solve hunger, poverty, healing, like, you know,
- 23:20Cures, okay, so it's a big tool.
- 23:23So I think that Yeah, we have to be a really good steward of this tool We have to be open and willing to accept that our our circumstances are temporary and then we have to take
- 23:34that action So what can you do?
- 23:36What can you do right now?
- 23:37Stop avoiding your bank account for one, you know create a financial plan I don't like to use the word budget but create a financial plan know where your money is gonna go like
- 23:48know where you want it to go
- 23:49have a little control over it.
- 23:51If you're if it's just going in and out in and out in and out and you have no idea and you're just like, I don't like and you feel like you're just working for money, like it
- 24:00comes and it goes and then it's gone.
- 24:01You're not stewarding it.
- 24:04You're not telling the money where to go.
- 24:06The money's telling you where it's going.
- 24:09And the only way that you can do that is simply by knowing where your money is going.
- 24:14Now, this is where I'm different.
- 24:16And this is where I like
- 24:17wrote the whole book by the damn coffee.
- 24:19I do not think you should just focus on cutting out your latte.
- 24:23I do not think that you need to be debt free to be financially free.
- 24:26I don't, it doesn't say that in the Bible.
- 24:28um I do not believe, and by the way, being debt free is not synonymous with being financially free.
- 24:34I have more debt now than I ever have through real estate and I'm a multimillionaire.
- 24:39I'm using a tool that the world gives us, business loans, um property loans, in order to build that wealth.
- 24:47Again, how you use the tool is everything, but you have to be able to have your plan and not just focus on the $5 latte, not just focus on the expense category of your budget,
- 25:01because that's where everybody wants to focus.
- 25:03If you just cut out date nights, you cut out trips, you roll everything over into your debt, because again, you can't, apparently you can't have any debt in your life, um and
- 25:14your entire focus.
- 25:15should be on paying off the debt.
- 25:18You know, maybe given a time or a place, if you're in, like there's, if you're in a really bad situation where this interest is causing, like, yes, focus on it, get it knocked out.
- 25:29But why do you have to be debt-free?
- 25:32Why do have to pay off your house when you have a 2 % mortgage?
- 25:34I don't even know why you'd want to do that right now.
- 25:36Especially if you're not doing the other thing that you need to do to actually steward your money, which is invest.
- 25:42So a lot of people want to focus on that expense category, right?
- 25:45What do you cut out?
- 25:46What can I trim?
- 25:47Trim the fat.
- 25:48That is a temporary solution to solve maybe an immediate hardship.
- 25:53The very next thing after you've looked at your expenses, I don't want you to focus there.
- 25:57I don't want you to be like, well, now I can't live and do anything fun.
- 25:59Cool.
- 26:00That's motivating.
- 26:01I want you to focus on the other side of that category of your budget, which is your income.
- 26:06Your income has the greatest chance of changing your life.
- 26:09Not the $5 latte.
- 26:11Not cutting out date night.
- 26:13In fact, I actually think that's going to make it more miserable and more unhappy and you'll resent money more.
- 26:18And then what you'll do is overspend because you're kind, you're upset.
- 26:21Like why work so hard?
- 26:22I deserve it.
- 26:23So then you buy stuff you can't afford.
- 26:24And this is the vicious cycle that we all have experienced if we're being honest.
- 26:28So, um, focus on that income category, but not just the income that you can make from your job.
- 26:33Like I love, there's a book T Harv Ecker.
- 26:36it was like secrets of a millionaire mind.
- 26:38And he's like, rule number one, never have a feeling on your income.
- 26:41I love that.
- 26:42I've lived by that.
- 26:43Never have a ceiling on your income.
- 26:45What does that mean?
- 26:46If you only have your job employee income, you need to figure out how to create more wealth.
- 26:50You need to figure out how to invest some of that income so it's paying you in your future.
- 26:55So I think that's the very, very next thing, right?
- 26:58Like correct some things over here, temporary, okay?
- 27:01Sure.
- 27:02Focus on the income.
- 27:02The income is gonna change your life.
- 27:05And like we've already said, your relationship with money.
- 27:08Because a lot of people will make a lot more money and then it's gone.
- 27:11or lot of people will put a ceiling on what they can make because they don't think they're worthy.
- 27:15And that's where it's like, it's not really the dollars in your bank account and the dollars in your wallet.
- 27:21It's what's in your mind that is stopping that.
- 27:24heal your relationship and your money trauma, okay?
- 27:27Heal it just like you would heal any other trauma in your life.
- 27:30Heal your money trauma.
- 27:31Focus on how can I multiply?
- 27:33How can I create more wealth?
- 27:36There's never been an easier time than right now in our society to make money in so many different ways.
- 27:42So you can't like, it's not an, it's an excuse if you're like, I just, don't know like how to make more money.
- 27:49I don't know.
- 27:50No, no, no, no.
- 27:50There's so many ways.
- 27:52I know, I know a friend who's making millions of dollars.
- 27:55I think she said she makes at least 55,000 per YouTube video on air fryer.
- 28:02How do you use your air fryer?
- 28:05Amazing.
- 28:07So cool.
- 28:08So there's opportunity out there, but we're not focusing on it.
- 28:11We feel stuck.
- 28:12We feel trapped.
- 28:12We feel stuck at our job.
- 28:13We feel this tie of like, I don't have any time and I don't have any money.
- 28:17They're very intertwined.
- 28:19And that's the scarcity, the poverty mindset that's going to pull you down and be like, you'll never have enough time.
- 28:24You'll never be financially free.
- 28:27And then you just feel in this trap cycle.
- 28:30Yeah, I want to emphasize a couple things that you said there.
- 28:33Oftentimes, people over focus on the debt.
- 28:36They don't focus on the income, right?
- 28:38You don't necessarily have a debt problem.
- 28:40You might just have an income problem.
- 28:41And how do you solve the income problem will solve the debt problem.
- 28:45So I want listeners to carry that with them is like, think of if you're if you have debt right now.
- 28:53Yes, there are some things that you can do stewardship.
- 28:56And the other thing I don't want to ramble here.
- 28:57But the other thing that I really hear there is
- 29:00focus on stewardship, right?
- 29:02That says it over and over again in the Bible, like the way you steward what you get, right?
- 29:07You talked about it, like you can overspend no matter how much money you have.
- 29:12So I love all those points.
- 29:14Yeah.
- 29:16The other thing I want to bring up is a lot of Christians might take the story of the ruler, the rich young ruler who would not give up all of his possessions to follow Jesus.
- 29:25And I think they take that so much to heart, like I have to be dirt poor, otherwise I can't follow Jesus.
- 29:30It was the priority of things that he had, not the wealth itself.
- 29:34He would not put Jesus first.
- 29:36That's what really you need to take from that is he was unwilling to put Jesus above worldly things.
- 29:42You do need to make sure you get that right before you go pursuing wealth.
- 29:46Have your heart right in the right place before you move forward.
- 29:50Any thoughts on that?
- 29:51Yeah, you know what the greatest thing you can do to combat greediness and selfishness is generosity.
- 29:59And that's where I think God says tithe, give, donate tithes and offerings.
- 30:04It's a test.
- 30:05It's a test.
- 30:06And even when I was like so broke living in that cockroach filled apartment, couldn't pay for groceries.
- 30:12I would be like this, like my, my fists were just tight and closed off.
- 30:15And I'm like, I don't have anything to give.
- 30:17And he's like, I need you to give to me.
- 30:21What?
- 30:2210 % you know, you can debate the tithe whether that's Old Testament, you know, whatever you can debate it.
- 30:28I think he wants you to be generous.
- 30:30So test it.
- 30:32Just test it.
- 30:33Take that 10 % and like open your hands and release it and let it go.
- 30:39And then you'll see what he does with that with that obedience.
- 30:42And then when you're no longer close fist tight white knuckled, look at your posture is open to receiving more like
- 30:49And a lot of people, like the parable of the talents are like, well, I'm saving it.
- 30:54I'm saving it.
- 30:55And I don't have any debt.
- 30:56I'm just saving, saving, saving.
- 30:59Is that what the parable of the three talents taught us?
- 31:02No, I think the parable of the three talents taught us that the one who hoarded it and saved it and kept it and kept the same amount, not only was each of them was given what
- 31:16the master
- 31:17believed like double believed what they were already capable of stewarding.
- 31:21You know, it already did that.
- 31:23So one hit it on our rug, basically dug a hole, right?
- 31:26Hit it on our rug.
- 31:27The other two multiplied it and the two that multiplied it were blessed, not just like, like blessed double.
- 31:34And the one who hit it, that saved it, that hoarded it, that controlled it.
- 31:39And look, I gave, I, it's the same amount was cursed.
- 31:42And I think that's like a test of stewardship required multiplication.
- 31:48It's not just a counting of your coins.
- 31:51It's not just a saving of it in your bank account.
- 31:53What is it doing there?
- 31:55In fact, it's probably just losing to the inflation monster.
- 31:58So it's not stewardship.
- 32:00So figure out, and it's very easy.
- 32:02You could just start a simple stock account if you want to be as simple as possible.
- 32:07We chose real estate.
- 32:08I do have stock accounts too, but like we chose real estate.
- 32:11See, see if you could multiply that money.
- 32:13Take some risk, invest.
- 32:16um I think that like we make failure such a big thing that like you're not allowed to like play with your money and test it and try things out because you're so afraid that you're
- 32:25gonna lose.
- 32:25Guess what?
- 32:26You probably will lose some, but you'll probably make more than you ever lose based on odds.
- 32:32And so like, and make wise decisions.
- 32:38I challenge anyone that's also listening, they hopefully they've read some autobiographies of successful entrepreneurs, every single one of them has a failure story, multiple
- 32:46failure stories.
- 32:47uh So they took risks, and they learned from those failures, and then they were able to grow their money.
- 32:54So you can't let a fear of failure stop you is basically the point that I'm getting at, because everyone that you ever look up to has failed.
- 33:02They might not uh write it in a book, but
- 33:05they have failed to get where they are.
- 33:07So, really, really good.
- 33:09um failure is necessary.
- 33:13You cannot avoid fear.
- 33:15You cannot live a fearless life.
- 33:20It's impossible.
- 33:22But you can fear less.
- 33:25You can absolutely fear less.
- 33:27You can have fear in the driver's seat of your life dictating every move you ever make.
- 33:32Or it could be in the
- 33:33the passenger seat while you're the driver, you and God are the driver and you say, okay, fear, I see you, you're trying to keep me alive here, you're trying to make sure I'm not
- 33:40making mistakes, you're trying to make sure I'm doing my due diligence on this deal or this investment.
- 33:44Those are all good things that fear is necessary.
- 33:48It's necessary in our life, you know, but it's not in the driver's seat.
- 33:52It should never be in the driver's seat.
- 33:53It shouldn't be the driver of your life.
- 33:56I love Will Smith said, fear, fail fast, fail often and fail forward.
- 34:03And I love that, because it's like normalizing failure and fear.
- 34:07It's all part of the process.
- 34:08Like it's how God refines us.
- 34:12Yeah.
- 34:14One point I want to make is, again, around the practical steps is no matter where you are, one step forward, Kobe Bryant got 1 % better every day, he said, right, to get to where he
- 34:25was.
- 34:25So it may not seem like you're making these momentum leaps, and most people do not make momentum leaps.
- 34:31They take one small step forward every time, and those compound over time to get to where they are.
- 34:37So uh start with going like...
- 34:40Here's the other point I want to make.
- 34:40One of the first things that I did is started to get around people that thought differently about money, right?
- 34:45Took myself out of environment of people thinking negatively and got around people that, like you, right?
- 34:51That have a positive aspect of money and that in itself, changing your environment changes your actions.
- 34:58So.
- 34:59don't take financial advice from broke people.
- 35:02It just, you know, and you might not realize that they're broke, but you can kind of learn that through someone's behaviors.
- 35:09You know, my sister used to, she had the whole cash and envelope system that she had learned in church and she was trying to help me with that.
- 35:15And God bless her.
- 35:16She was being a really good big sister, just trying to help me navigate managing my money better.
- 35:22But I didn't know that she was also living on food stamps.
- 35:25So, you know, she was
- 35:27probably more broke than I was.
- 35:28I actually know that I was making more money in my retail job than she was as a teacher.
- 35:33And I'm like, so I'm getting advice from someone who's not where I want to be.
- 35:38And it's okay.
- 35:39Like I don't necessarily think you should talk about money with your family if they're, know, like, I think you should make money conversations more normal, especially as you are
- 35:47breaking the financial chains in your family and breaking the generational, you know, chains of, of financial poverty in your family.
- 35:55think then you should
- 35:56influence, know, rising tide raises all ships.
- 35:59So I do think that you should have more candid conversations, bring up money more talk more about it.
- 36:05But when you're starting off, and you're trying to get that advice and guidance, you need to be getting it from people who are where you want to be like, that's it, like every
- 36:13coach you hire better be making some money, and you better be careful.
- 36:15You better be careful out there.
- 36:17A lot of people are saying they're making a lot of money, you know, so really have discernment with who is guiding you with your finances with your business.
- 36:26Are your are your morals aligned?
- 36:28you know, do you are they where you want to be?
- 36:30And can can they prove that?
- 36:32Do they have the receipts?
- 36:33You know, I love that some are really starting to show like their sales online because there's just so many imitators out there is really easy to go rent a private jet and do
- 36:41some, you know, reels on it.
- 36:43It's really easy.
- 36:44see people.
- 36:45There's a lot of Lamborghinis in Scottsdale.
- 36:48And I see people like filming out in front of these Lamborghinis.
- 36:51of your Lamborghini, you know, so it's really easy to be deceived.
- 36:55So you have to have that discernment.
- 36:57But you definitely want to take financial advice from someone who's where you want to be and who has come from that who who's going to condense time for you.
- 37:05Because like you said, like, it takes a little step 1 % better.
- 37:09But people think that financial freedom is 50 years from now.
- 37:12And that's why it's really hard to stay on path.
- 37:15And it's really hard to like, not
- 37:18fall into instant gratification because it just feels so far off, but it's not.
- 37:23actually think financial freedom is so much closer than you think.
- 37:27You just don't even know.
- 37:28You haven't even done the math.
- 37:29Have you done the math to see how much it would be to replace your current income right now with passive income and what would that take?
- 37:35Honestly, it's like what, $5,000 to $10,000 maybe a month?
- 37:38Maybe.
- 37:38And that's like if you have family, it's not that much.
- 37:41And it's not that far away.
- 37:44We just give up, we give up, we think it's too late, we think we're too old, we think, you know, it's for them.
- 37:49It's again, like, it's the worthiness.
- 37:52You just don't think it's, you know, it's a worthy pursuit.
- 37:55I think it's one of the greatest pursuits.
- 37:57Again, see that you could be a blessing for others, not just your family, your community, your immediate family, but like for people who are in real poverty, you know what mean?
- 38:06Like real poverty.
- 38:08I want to touch on two things.
- 38:10I love that you said someone that has the receipts, right?
- 38:13But also you also mentioned in there that's morally aligned with you.
- 38:16Some people may have the receipts, but they've gone in an ill-gotten way, right?
- 38:20You don't want to follow people that are doing illegal things that are going to lead you down an immoral path, because there's plenty of those out there too.
- 38:30I love...
- 38:32Yes.
- 38:35Yep.
- 38:35can make it righteous wealth or unrighteous wealth.
- 38:38You know, there are definitely Opportunities for both and I definitely people are out there saying you could manifest it make it happen.
- 38:46You're your own god like nah Nah, I don't believe in any I don't I didn't read anywhere in the Bible that I have the power to manifest anything I'm not God but
- 38:55I do have the ability to steward and honor what he's given me and see what he'll let me do with it next.
- 39:03Yeah, one other thing I want to bring up is the, want to relate this to AI because a lot of negative people think AI is from the devil.
- 39:12It is just like the dawn of the, when the internet came out, a lot of people said, that's a bad thing.
- 39:17You know, it's going to be used for evil.
- 39:19Why as Christians would we let something like a technology or whether it be, or, or wealth, for instance, be all in the hands of the enemy.
- 39:28Right.
- 39:28That would, that would, to me is bad stewardship.
- 39:31Right.
- 39:32there's no greater transfer of wealth than in the hands of God's people.
- 39:36And I think we're actually in that transfer right now.
- 39:38So do you want to be a part of it?
- 39:40Do you want to be entrusted?
- 39:42What was it?
- 39:43Luke 16, 10?
- 39:45Be faithful with little and he'll test you in what and to see what he can.
- 39:52You can be faithful with much, right?
- 39:54Wow, that was hard to get out.
- 39:56just imagine.
- 40:00If there were more of God's people who were obedient, like look at Truett Caffey.
- 40:06Do you know how much money that family has given away?
- 40:08Look at Hobby Lobby.
- 40:10You want to learn from some of the greatest business Christians?
- 40:14Read about them and see what they've been able to do in secrecy.
- 40:18Like they didn't do it like, hey, I do all these amazing things.
- 40:22Just go look at how much the owner of Hobby Lobby has donated.
- 40:25I mean, it's crazy.
- 40:27So I think that there's
- 40:30no greater gift and way to honor God.
- 40:33I mean, there are lots of great ways to honor God.
- 40:35I guess I can't put one greater, but this is one way in our world.
- 40:38And people want to be like, well, it's not about the money and money is not important.
- 40:42Money is a really useful tool here on earth.
- 40:44Do we get to take any of it with us when we die?
- 40:46No.
- 40:47Can you buy your way into heaven or out of hell?
- 40:49No, this is not prosperity gospel.
- 40:51That's not what this is.
- 40:53um But it's pretty useful here on earth, I would say.
- 40:58How can we be a servant with this useful tool?
- 41:01That's it.
- 41:02And how can we be a vessel?
- 41:03How can we be a vehicle that it flows through?
- 41:07It flows through like a current, like water.
- 41:09Like, it doesn't stop at us.
- 41:12not, uh I interviewed this former NBA player, Anthony Tolliver on my new YouTube channel.
- 41:18And he uses the analogy of like, you never wanna be a lake.
- 41:21You're not just like piling up everything.
- 41:24You wanna be a river.
- 41:25And I love that and he's been able to do so much with his NBA career and teaching generosity as kids.
- 41:31And I think that's a really good analogy for, you a lake or are you a river?
- 41:37Yeah, very, very, very true.
- 41:39I want to touch on your journey just a little bit because you went from, we mentioned, being really, really in debt to being a multimillionaire now.
- 41:47Can you cite just a couple, I know, kind of like we talked about, it's like your momentum, right?
- 41:52You start moving forward and you build momentum, but are there a couple moves in there that you can go back to and say that, that in particular was one thing that really
- 41:59catapulted me forward.
- 42:01Yeah, the first move I made was a physical one.
- 42:04I was living in Los Angeles, barely making it in a city that I felt was sucking the life out of me, drying my bank account dry.
- 42:14You know what I mean?
- 42:14Like I just, could not get my head above water there.
- 42:18So I physically moved.
- 42:20I never thought I'd move out of California ever.
- 42:23I was like, I honestly was like one of those Californians that was like, is there another world?
- 42:28Is California its own country?
- 42:29You know?
- 42:31and Northern and Southern California are very different.
- 42:33I was a SoCal girl.
- 42:34So I really didn't ever imagine my life not there.
- 42:40And at the same time, I was absolutely miserable.
- 42:44I was miserable.
- 42:45I was making $55,000 a year, and this was like a lot of years ago now.
- 42:49I haven't been back, but I was making good income at the time, but I wasn't seeing any of it.
- 42:55It was all going to cost a living, all going to bills.
- 42:58It was insane.
- 42:59There are more affordable.
- 43:01affordable places to live.
- 43:02And um I decided to sell everything I owned, pack up my little Toyota Silica, and I moved to Montana.
- 43:10I had never been there.
- 43:12I didn't even know where to point it out on a map.
- 43:13Again, I'm from California.
- 43:14We don't look at maps.
- 43:16And I didn't, I literally didn't know where I was going.
- 43:19I remember when I first got there, was March, so it was like winter.
- 43:22I had to go buy snow boots and everything smelled like cow poop because there were a lot of farms.
- 43:27And I was like, where did I move?
- 43:29You know?
- 43:30I just had no idea.
- 43:31I put a quarter in a meter, a parking meter and I got 10 hours.
- 43:36I called every friend I knew in LA.
- 43:39I said, you will not believe where I just moved.
- 43:41I think I'm in heaven.
- 43:42Pigs were flying.
- 43:44I just was like, yeah, it was very different.
- 43:47Okay, very different environment does not even still to this day have like a Macy's.
- 43:52Okay.
- 43:53So the whole state okay has one zip code.
- 43:56It's but it's
- 43:57It's where I needed to be to start over, to hit the reset button on my life.
- 44:04Some people are in that spot right now.
- 44:05You are never going to get ahead if you stay where you are.
- 44:09so what?
- 44:10The weather is perfect in California.
- 44:12I hated my life.
- 44:13I hated my life there.
- 44:14I was, I was on the track, I believe, to becoming very, very unhealthy, very, very unhealthy.
- 44:20I was so stressed out and I feel like that stress would have turned into cancer, something really, I I cried all the time over my death.
- 44:28I cried all the time because I would sleep in my car.
- 44:31I would literally sleep in my car because they had street sweep and I couldn't afford the parking garage across the way.
- 44:37I was already paying a lot in rent and I couldn't afford more for the parking garage.
- 44:41I would get home at like two in the morning, which means everybody's already parked for the night.
- 44:45So I couldn't park my car.
- 44:48I would be blocks and blocks and blocks away.
- 44:50So I would illegally park my car and sleep in it.
- 44:53until 7am when street sweep is coming and I knew someone would be able to move their car and I'd be able to move it in get a few more hours of sleep before I had to do it all over
- 45:01again.
- 45:02That is no way of living and I cannot believe that I accepted that for so long for so long when I'm like, Whoa, I moved to Montana, I moved into a house with two girls, I was paying
- 45:14$300 to live in a house for rent.
- 45:18put
- 45:1925 cents and got 10 hours and a meter and I was like, seriously, no, I wasn't making as much income.
- 45:25But again, I figured that out.
- 45:27I became an entrepreneur.
- 45:28I made sure there was no ceiling on my income.
- 45:30It definitely allowed me to catch a break, to breathe, to take a step back from survival mode and be able to come up with a plan.
- 45:39Now, the second thing I did and the plan that worked was real estate.
- 45:43Hey, guess what?
- 45:44We moved across country.
- 45:45It was with my boyfriend at the time who's now my husband.
- 45:48We moved across the country, moved to Montana.
- 45:50I guess it's not across the country, but felt like a whole nother world.
- 45:54We moved to Montana.
- 45:55We had no money.
- 45:56I was six figures in debt.
- 45:58He had bad credit.
- 45:59Let's start investing in real estate with no job and no money.
- 46:03And we did.
- 46:04And we took a course.
- 46:06over a weekend, someone came in, you know, we read Rich Dad Poor Dad, we took a course that weekend, we got a coach, put that on a credit card, you know, some people would be
- 46:14like, that's stupid.
- 46:16One of the best decisions I ever did.
- 46:18And we were able to, not only did putting that on a credit card make us like, we had six months of free interest on that card, we were like, we have six months to pay this off.
- 46:27We have six months to do our first deal.
- 46:29We have like it gave us the deadline.
- 46:31It put our back against the wall and give us no other option.
- 46:35We burned the boats.
- 46:36It's time to do real estate and we figured it out.
- 46:39Our first investor we got off of Craigslist.
- 46:42Yes, someone on Craigslist gave me over $60,000.
- 46:45You know why?
- 46:46Because there's also smart people out there that have a lot of money.
- 46:49You think everybody's broke?
- 46:50No, no, no.
- 46:51There are people out there that have a lot of money and they understand a good deal.
- 46:54And if you can present the deal to them and that they'll make more money than it's sitting in a bank account.
- 46:59they will do the deal.
- 47:00You know, and we've always been very integrative people.
- 47:03So people have just like invested with us and we've shown that we've never lost anybody, any money.
- 47:08So, um, we have lost our own money.
- 47:12Let me just state that, you know, not any deal is perfect, but, um, but I would say the second thing I did was invest in real estate.
- 47:20It, you know, if you look at the common denominators in the top 1 % of people is they found wealth through one
- 47:27two or both of these ways and it's business or real estate.
- 47:30The quickest way to change your financial situation is through business and real estate or both.
- 47:35And most people who end up having a very successful business, tuck a lot of money into real estate to help with taxes.
- 47:40And it's a great combination in it to build wealth in our society.
- 47:44And there's just so many incentives that the government has given us to become entrepreneurs and to buy real estate.
- 47:50so, interest rates aren't great now, which is super fun, but.
- 47:54You know, it's all part.
- 47:55Everybody's been through cycles.
- 47:56Remember, like it used to be 18%.
- 47:58So people are like 7%.
- 47:59I'm like, dude, before 2009, it was so much higher.
- 48:04there's opportunity to start a business, especially in the United States.
- 48:10Like I just don't think there's a greater place to start a business.
- 48:13And then there's opportunity to start investing in real estate without the experience, without the money.
- 48:17You do have to have a little bit of time.
- 48:19And we would do bandit signs in the middle of the night, like
- 48:23We hustled, we hustled.
- 48:25For a few years, it took some hustle.
- 48:27Again, we still traveled, we still had a balance every weekend, we still enjoyed the beautiful, beautiful mountains of Montana.
- 48:35We explored more of Montana than people who have been there their whole life.
- 48:39So we still made that a priority while we were building, but we build hard and we went after it and we never give up.
- 48:44And when I look at the people who were in that class with us, the only difference between some of the people uh and us was that we didn't give up.
- 48:53Eventually it worked.
- 48:54Eventually, like that first deal we made happen in six months.
- 48:57Eventually it started building and it started snowballing in such a significant way.
- 49:02It's like the hockey puck.
- 49:03It's just like when you start a business, you know, it's like here and then all of sudden it's like, whoa, all of that is paying off.
- 49:09All that is coming through.
- 49:11So those were the two biggest things.
- 49:14And I think if anybody can get anything, a takeaway would be, do you need to make a move, a literal move?
- 49:23to make something happen, it might require that, okay?
- 49:25And again, maybe, I love California.
- 49:29mean, I probably would never go back now, but it's always on the top three places we could live.
- 49:35But I don't need to go there now.
- 49:37Like, I don't know, I feel good in Arizona, I feel good.
- 49:39Like, maybe your priority will change once you've moved away, but you don't know, it's all that you've ever known.
- 49:45And I think there's really something fun to explore on the outside of your comfort zone.
- 49:50um And so maybe you need a literal move.
- 49:53Maybe you need a job pivot, you know, um I think again, it's like the fear what if what if what if yeah, but what if it works?
- 50:00What if it worked out?
- 50:01Well, what if it's better?
- 50:03What if that job is better?
- 50:04What if you were happier there?
- 50:06Like I just didn't think I would love Montana as much as I did and I loved it and we were there for 14 years.
- 50:11We just moved.
- 50:12I was like, I'll be here for a few and God's like, I got a plan for you.
- 50:18and it was really the springboard to everything else.
- 50:20And then the second part, the takeaway would be you have to multiply your money, whether it's your job and you match your 401k, whether you take some money from your paycheck to
- 50:30pay your future self through a stock account, or whether you put some money aside into what I call an investment account and you start saving up to buy some rentals.
- 50:38Like I definitely think that like, you read Rich Dad Poor Dad, it's the one book everybody says that they've read that has impacted their
- 50:47their mindset around money.
- 50:49Read my book, Buy the Damn Coffee, if you want some internal healing around your money.
- 50:53If you want to know what God actually says about money too, my husband wrote a book too.
- 50:58He's my introvert, so he'll never plug his own book.
- 51:00I'll plug it for him because I'm a good wife, but he wrote Bible Money Secrets.
- 51:04And if you really want to deep dive with other pastoral expertise inside of that book um and really know what the Bible actually says about money, because you're hung up on
- 51:15greedy people won't you know can't get through the eye of the needle of the camel right like all these things like if you're hung up on that that's a great book that will will
- 51:23really show you the limiting studies and conversations that we've had in church around money um and Hopefully hopefully set you free so that you can walk into prosperity.
- 51:36God does not promise wealth.
- 51:39Okay, that's not prosperity gospel
- 51:42He does not promise wealth, but he gives you every opportunity to prosper.
- 51:47Yes, yes, very, very true.
- 51:48uh I have more questions, but we're running up against the top of the hour.
- 51:53I really want to know, like, maybe we have you on for another episode just to talk about your marriage and how you two work together uh towards your wealth.
- 52:03I don't know if you started on the same page, but we'll get into that topic maybe on another episode, or I just bring you back for like a 15-minute clip or something.
- 52:11uh
- 52:12Doug.
- 52:12It's actually the next book that my husband and I are probably gonna write together, which is Marriage Money, because that is a whole topic.
- 52:19I have a chapter in it in my book on Marriage Money, but I had to take so much out of it.
- 52:23I'm all, is the next book, because working towards wealth with your partner is a whole nother story, because they come with their own money influencers, money stories, beliefs,
- 52:32and all these things.
- 52:33And I am an advocate for working together with your spouse.
- 52:38because whether one partner is trying to build a legacy, but not teaching the knowledge to pass on the legacy, that's to your spouse, to your kids, it will be gone.
- 52:48Everything you ever built will be gone.
- 52:50And if you aren't working together and you have separate bank accounts and you're Venmo-ing, I see this, you Venmo your spouse for the mortgage, something is seriously
- 53:00wrong with that too.
- 53:01So ah now there are very rare cases of keeping your finances separate.
- 53:07but for the most part, uh statistically too, uh marriages last more if your money is together and you work together.
- 53:15Most of the stats on marriage and divorce and money are really not just the money, the physical dollars in the account, it's not being on the same goals with finances at all.
- 53:24And so I have a lot to share and I would love to come back on and share more about that.
- 53:28Awesome, awesome.
- 53:29Well, we'll do another episode.
- 53:31It'll be probably, maybe it'll be just as long.
- 53:33I don't know, but uh I really want to dive into that topic.
- 53:36So let's plan on that.
- 53:37uh I do have, uh first of all, you mentioned your book.
- 53:42Where can people find out more about the book and what else can they, where else can they find out more about you?
- 53:47you can go to JanineMix.com forge slash PCB for profitable Christian business PCB and I've got my five step money planner.
- 53:55If you're like, I don't even know where to start with organizing my money.
- 53:58I've got you.
- 53:59It's a five step money planner and is not complicated and it's not full of pie charts.
- 54:02It's very, simple.
- 54:04like more to me more like Excel stuff.
- 54:07It's like stressful.
- 54:08It's very simple.
- 54:09It's all in one easy glance of the year and month.
- 54:12Like it's great.
- 54:13And then you can set your goals in there and your spouse and organize your money.
- 54:16I think it's a great place to start to start feeling more confident with your money.
- 54:20There's a link on there for my book as well.
- 54:21And then there's a Facebook community that you can join in and hang out with me.
- 54:25But if you want to hang out with me, hang out with me on uh Instagram, Janine Mix.
- 54:29That's definitely where we go.
- 54:31And then we just launched our new YouTube channel.
- 54:34So definitely go subscribe.
- 54:36It's Adventures with Millionaires.
- 54:38I interview millionaires while doing something epic.
- 54:40It's not a boring interview.
- 54:41It's so fun and we get them out of their comfort zone and in a little bit of fear so that you can see a different side of the people and a different vulnerability of people who
- 54:51have crushed it in their life and have become millionaires and have come from, you know, I think there's something really inspiring about hearing someone's story.
- 54:59And so um I'm really excited to share that and we just launched that a couple of weeks ago.
- 55:04Wow, I'm excited to check.
- 55:05I'm going to be subscribing to that YouTube channel because that sounds amazing.
- 55:08I had ah someone that I was suggesting, you beat them to the punch of them doing something like that and here you are, you've done it.
- 55:15And there you boom, awesome.
- 55:17I'm going to subscribe.
- 55:18ah So I'm going to put those links below.
- 55:22I'm also, if you'll give it to me, I can go research it.
- 55:24I'll put the link to your husband's book ah as well to go check that out because I really think there's going to be a lot of great information in there for anyone that is watching
- 55:32or listening.
- 55:33Last question, I ask everybody before they leave because I don't want to leave anything left on the table of wisdom passed along.
- 55:40Any words of wisdom for anyone that is watching right
- 55:50start today.
- 55:51I just feel like you're gonna, you're gonna listen to this, you're gonna get inspired, you're gonna listen to some other podcasts, you're gonna get inspired, you're gonna read
- 55:59another book, you're gonna get inspired.
- 56:00But if you don't take action and just do something every day.
- 56:03So I do this thing called money moves Monday.
- 56:05And it's how I built my financial confidence because no one is born confident with money.
- 56:10Literally no one.
- 56:11It's not like it's not a birthright.
- 56:13Okay, well, might be our kingdom birthright, you know what mean?
- 56:16But
- 56:17We're not born knowing like the financial institution, how a 401k works, like how much I should be saving.
- 56:23Like we're not born that way.
- 56:24So we have to build our confidence.
- 56:26The quickest way that you can do that is dedicate 20 minutes every Monday.
- 56:30Money moves Monday.
- 56:3220 minutes every Monday.
- 56:33Read a financial article.
- 56:34Read a financial specific financial book.
- 56:37Read my book, my husband's book, Rich Dad Poor Dad.
- 56:39I don't care.
- 56:40Make sure it's focused on money so that you can like be...
- 56:43absorbing, absorbing from successful people, In that proximity, like you said, whether it's a podcast about money, 20 minutes every Monday, and you will get more confident with
- 56:54your money.
- 56:55I also spend that 20 minutes, I actually do two hours now, because I love it.
- 56:58I love it.
- 56:58I used to like cry in my budget and avoid it and started with like 15 minutes.
- 57:02Now I'm like two hours every Monday.
- 57:04I love it.
- 57:04And I'm in my money and I'm in my money plan and my five step money plan.
- 57:08And I'm making decisions.
- 57:09I'm feeling empowered.
- 57:11You know, all of the things, the stress, the things that, you know, why you avoid your bank account, all that starts to dissipate when you become more confident in knowing where
- 57:20your money is going.
- 57:22And I just think that if you listen to this and you do nothing, nothing will change.
- 57:26Nothing will change in your life.
- 57:28Your circumstances will remain the same.
- 57:30You have to do something.
- 57:32So read an article, go get my planner.
- 57:35actually spend the week filling that out.
- 57:37And it's not, you don't need the week, but like spend a little bit of time, you know, and don't avoid it and have the conversations and, um, you know, take that action.
- 57:45I think it starts there because most people just don't even know where their money is.
- 57:48So they can't even imagine investing right now.
- 57:50How could I get into real estate?
- 57:52I don't even know where my money is.
- 57:53Right.
- 57:53So that's an easy fix.
- 57:54Let's do that.
- 57:55So we can move on to the next category, right?
- 57:57Your income and then
- 57:58be able to make some more wiser decisions with your money.
- 58:02I know on your questions you had mentioned something about feeling, what's my guilty pleasure when I purchase something?
- 58:10I don't have a guilty pleasure because I don't feel guilty spending money anymore.
- 58:13I feel excited.
- 58:15What would your life look like if you felt excited to spend money and you felt confident where that money was going?
- 58:21It's a different life.
- 58:23It doesn't mean we don't have financial stressors, okay?
- 58:26Bigger problems with bigger...
- 58:28Real estate for sure, bit more expensive problems too.
- 58:31We have those all the time, but I no longer have like guilt and fear and shame over my dollars because I know where they're going.
- 58:39I have a plan for them.
- 58:40Sometimes the plan doesn't work out.
- 58:41It's okay.
- 58:42It's not perfect.
- 58:43And then we pivot, but I'm in it.
- 58:45I'm in it to make real time decisions.
- 58:47You know, I'm not figuring it out after my PNLs have done, been done for the year and my taxes are submitted.
- 58:52I'm not figuring out if my business is profitable once a year.
- 58:56I'm doing this every single week.
- 58:58I put it in my calendar, just one last little tidbit, put it in your calendar, and in the description of that event, put the links to blogs you wanna read, put the links to the
- 59:07podcast you wanna listen to in that time, put the link to the course that you wanna go through one of the modules during that 20 minutes, put that right into your calendar, and
- 59:16just see how much confidence will change in your life very quickly around money because you're absorbing the information differently.
- 59:25Shameless plug, if you're a Christian entrepreneur, make sure this podcast is in that list.
- 59:31Nice, nice.
- 59:32Well, thank you so much, Janine.
- 59:34This has been delightful.
- 59:35Well, I will know, I will see you again.
- 59:36We'll have you back on for the marriage episode because that I don't think can go left unsaid on this podcast because I think our audience really needs it.
- 59:44So thank you again so much.
- 59:46And until next time, entrepreneurs, keep moving forward.
- 59:53All right, that was awesome.
- 59:54uh