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This Jimmy Butler Situation Is Getting Weird... · Kenny For Real

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  Speaker 1: This is Jimmy Butler trade situation or lack of trade situation.
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  Speaker 1: It's something I've never really seen before, and it keeps
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  Speaker 1: getting weirder and weirder. So let me walk you through
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  Speaker 1: the timeline. Right, So this is December tenth. Shamp Sharani
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  Speaker 1: head his inside pass and in this he says the
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  Speaker 1: Heat are opening to listening to offers for Butler and
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  Speaker 1: making a deal if the proposal is right. Butler's agent,
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  Speaker 1: Bernie Lee, has indicated to the in league circles that
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  Speaker 1: Butler's open to destinations such as the two Texas teams,
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  Speaker 1: the Houston Rocks and to Dallas Mavericks and the Golden
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  Speaker 1: State Warriors. Teams have also been informed that Butler intends
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  Speaker 1: to opt out of his deal in the offseason and
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  Speaker 1: become a free agent. A day after that, Seam said,
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  Speaker 1: hold on, there's another team to the bunch. That team
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  Speaker 1: is the Phoenix Suns. But also that Dave Bernie Lee,
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler's agent, came out and said, oh, this is
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  Speaker 1: Albs and he took some shots at Shamp Serronie. It
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  Speaker 1: was a pretty fun day on Twitter and all. But overall,
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  Speaker 1: Butler's camp is basically saying these are all lies. And then,
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  Speaker 1: just like every other Christmas Day, we get a new
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  Speaker 1: slop of a report from ESPN and it is Sham Sharani.
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  Speaker 1: You're saying that the six time NBA All Star Jimmy
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  Speaker 1: Butler prefers a trade out of Miami ahead of the
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  Speaker 1: February sixth deadline. But even with that said, there's nothing
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  Speaker 1: in this article that is new. Information is basically the
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  Speaker 1: same stuff from December tenth. But we needed something to
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  Speaker 1: talk about to get us ready for the Christmas Day games,
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  Speaker 1: and this happened to be it. Nothing so far is
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  Speaker 1: too out of the ordinary. It's what happened next that
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  Speaker 1: really blew my mind. Before we talk about it, here's
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  Speaker 1: We usually don't comment on rumors, but all this speculation
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  Speaker 1: has become a distraction to the team and it's not
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  Speaker 1: fair to the players and the coaches. Therefore, we will
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  Speaker 1: make it clear we are not trading Jimmy Butler. That
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  Speaker 1: is wild to me because, like he said in a statement,
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  Speaker 1: we usually don't comment on rumors. Hell, many front officers
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  Speaker 1: don't usually comments on rumors because at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the day, that's all it is. It's just stuff for
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  Speaker 1: NBA fans to get excited about. But you just don't
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  Speaker 1: see this often. Pat Riley had a presser and he
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  Speaker 1: said all these comments saying no, no, no, no, no. Not
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  Speaker 1: only am I talking to y'all in his room because
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  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are not watching this
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  Speaker 1: pre conference, go tweet it from the official Miami Heat account.
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  Speaker 1: We are not trading Jimmy Butler. You just don't see that, man.
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  Speaker 1: You just don't see a team plant their flag or
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  Speaker 1: front office plant their flag. That definite this early in
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  Speaker 1: the season. So they really got me thinking about why
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  Speaker 1: pat Riley said this. Was this always a case? Was
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  Speaker 1: there never a world where he was gonna consider trading
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler With this from eight months ago, pat Ridley
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  Speaker 1: would asked if he would consider trading Jimmy Butler, one
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  Speaker 1: word answered no.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe that has always been a case.
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  Speaker 1: Or maybe it was the fact that trading a player
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  Speaker 1: like Jimmy Butler in today's day and age is just
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  Speaker 1: so damn hard. Maybe they did listen to all of
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  Speaker 1: these calls and trying to get it where Jimmy Butler
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  Speaker 1: was going to one of this preferred destinations. They recognized
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  Speaker 1: with the second apron, it's practically impossible to pull off
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  Speaker 1: a Jimmy Butler trade. Yeah, we sat on this channel
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  Speaker 1: and reacted to articles that had Jimmy trades to the Lakers,
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy trades to the Golden State Wars and all those
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  Speaker 1: other seas. But that just feels super unlikely. So now
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  Speaker 1: that they maybe come to the realization that that trade
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  Speaker 1: is just not okay, let's stop it. Let's cut all
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  Speaker 1: the rumors out of the way and just say no.
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  Speaker 1: But these fake Jimmy Butler trades or these things are
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  Speaker 1: not very new. I think they started around here, Barry
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  Speaker 1: Jackson had to report. Riley said, heat will need to
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  Speaker 1: give a lot of thought if Jimmy Butler asked for
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  Speaker 1: an extension in July is expected unless you have someone
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  Speaker 1: who's really going to be available every single night, Riley said,
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  Speaker 1: And WHOA, that's a lot of conversations about your best player, right,
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  Speaker 1: And we can all agree that Jimmy Butler is not
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  Speaker 1: readily available like he was earlier in his career. Hell,
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  Speaker 1: as of today, he turned his ankle like a week
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  Speaker 1: ago and now he's out with a stomach virus. I
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  Speaker 1: don't understand it, but Jimmy Butler just does miss time often.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a reality.
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  Speaker 1: And then you got this report like it just feels
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  Speaker 1: like there might be some friction with Riley and Jimmy Butler.
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  Speaker 1: Riley asked about Butler trolling the Celtics when he couldn't
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  Speaker 1: play in the series. If you're not on the court playing,
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  Speaker 1: you should keep your mouth shut. And you know what,
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  Speaker 1: though I love Jimiy Bodley's one of my favorite players
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  Speaker 1: of all time, and I love that we have a
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  Speaker 1: player in the league that is willing to talk trash.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a Riley on this one.
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  Speaker 1: You can't be you can't be talking trash for you
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  Speaker 1: not really there, because it defeats them, It defeats the
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  Speaker 1: purpose of it. Now, Tyler, hero gotta go out there
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  Speaker 1: against the Celtics because you was talking trash and they
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  Speaker 1: got that animosity towards Tyler.
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  Speaker 2: No, that's not cool. So I agree with Riley on
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  Speaker 2: this one.
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  Speaker 1: But it always feels like Riley has a comment here there,
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  Speaker 1: and you can argue that that's their relationship. Right, Jimmy
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  Speaker 1: Butler has flamed out in a couple of different locations,
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  Speaker 1: like Minnesota or like the seventy six ers because people
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  Speaker 1: weren't keeping it real. Maybe this is just their relationship
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  Speaker 1: and Jimmy doesn't find no harm in these comments.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe, but things do get really interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Right when I was growing up, there was this thing
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  Speaker 1: that we used to call financial loyalty. When you have
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  Speaker 1: a guy that's been on your roster for seven, eight, nine,
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  Speaker 1: ten years, and whether that time has been championships or not,
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  Speaker 1: you kind of felt obligated to pay that player for
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  Speaker 1: their loyalty. He might have been later in his career,
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  Speaker 1: but damn it, he's been here for so very long.
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  Speaker 1: The fan base loves him. Let's give him that bag.
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  Speaker 1: Pat ryl and them very early on, was like, that's
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  Speaker 1: not really who we are, and that's how Dwayne Wade
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  Speaker 1: ended up in Chicago at of all places.
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  Speaker 2: But I look at.
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler and think about him declining that player option,
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  Speaker 1: and though there were times in my life where I
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  Speaker 1: used to say cap space is an illusion, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that's the case anymore. With the second Apron, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, like Jimmy Butler even get into Miami.
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  Speaker 2: It's part of that argument.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't have the money to get Jimmy Butler, but
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  Speaker 1: they made the necessary trades where now in Jimmy Butler
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  Speaker 1: wants to come here, we make that happen. With the
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  Speaker 1: second Apron, trades are just not as plentiful as they
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  Speaker 1: used to be. To make me feel like cap space
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  Speaker 1: is not real, and then you look at the teams
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  Speaker 1: that do have cap space. You got the Brooklyn Nets.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell they're gonna do this offseason.
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  Speaker 1: They're doing the right thing right now, as of like
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  Speaker 1: losing some games he or there, even though I did
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  Speaker 1: see a clip from.
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  Speaker 2: Last night where Bobby Portois doubled.
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  Speaker 1: Ben Simmons twenty seven feet away from the basket and
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  Speaker 1: left Kim Johnson wide open for three and they win
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  Speaker 1: that game. Either way, they're doing the right thing. Trying
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  Speaker 1: to sell their pieces to be bad now. But like
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  Speaker 1: they have a potential seventy seven million dollars in cap space,
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  Speaker 1: are they gonna use that to go get a guy
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  Speaker 1: like Jimmy Butler? You at the Washington Wizards, who can
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  Speaker 1: have up to forty million dollars in cass space. That
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  Speaker 1: doesn't feel like a good fit. The Pelicans at thirty three. Hell,
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler's a client of fifty. He's a client of fifty,
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  Speaker 1: so that thirty three might not be it. So aware
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  Speaker 1: is the Jimmy Butler location if he opts out, And
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  Speaker 1: you also have to consider this, Jimmy Butler will be
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  Speaker 1: thirty six years old at the start of next season,
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  Speaker 1: and this year he's only averaging a eighteen points per game,
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  Speaker 1: six rebounds, five it says, shooting him fairly well. This
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  Speaker 1: has been one of his most efficient years of his
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  Speaker 1: entire career. But like, I don't know if teams are
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  Speaker 1: going to be lining up to pay a thirty six
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  Speaker 1: year old guy who feels like he has been somewhat
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  Speaker 1: declining over the last couple of years the amount of
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  Speaker 1: money that he thinks he's worth.
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  Speaker 2: And he again, I'm a Jimmy Butler superfir Like.
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  Speaker 1: There are times this year Robs has been straight up
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  Speaker 1: frustrated with his lack of effort or lack of impact
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  Speaker 1: on these games.
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  Speaker 2: And there's other nights.
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  Speaker 1: You're like there he goes, that's the Jimmy Butler that
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  Speaker 1: every team would be interested in, but you're just not
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  Speaker 1: getting it on a night to night basis.
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  Speaker 2: And listen on this channel, maybe you watching this video.
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  Speaker 1: We love player movement, but I just don't feel like
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  Speaker 1: the Jimmy Butler player movement thing is gonna be real.
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  Speaker 1: Like I would bet a good amount of money that
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler is not just finishing this season on his roster,
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  Speaker 1: but gonna be on the roster next year as well,
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  Speaker 1: unless Jimmy is willing to take a big pay cut,
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  Speaker 1: which that doesn't feel like a likelihood based on all
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  Speaker 1: of the comments we've read from everybody. And again we
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  Speaker 1: add the second Aprin thing, which as of today, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not a huge fan of. I think it probably would
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  Speaker 1: take years before the league evens out and then it
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  Speaker 1: becomes something that is pretty wor worthy. But because of
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  Speaker 1: the Second Apron and because players are better now at
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  Speaker 1: old age compared to previous generations, I just feel like
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be increasingly harder to figure out what
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  Speaker 1: a thirty five year old star is worth do we
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  Speaker 1: want to pay? Like here's an example the playoffs this season.
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  Speaker 1: Paul George would turn thirty five years old this year.
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  Speaker 1: Paul George Abas is sixteen six and five, his efficiency
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  Speaker 1: is down, and so on and so forth. The Philadelphia
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  Speaker 1: seventy six ers were a team that recognized the risk
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  Speaker 1: and paying a near thirty five year old aging star,
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  Speaker 1: but they thought that even if we get two years
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  Speaker 1: of real George, that'll be worth it. I just don't
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  Speaker 1: know if teams are gonna be willing to take that
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  Speaker 1: much of a risk, even though these players are getting
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  Speaker 1: better throughout their careers, like some of the all time greats,
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  Speaker 1: of course, played great through their thirties, like Tim Duncan
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  Speaker 1: made an All Star Game at thirty six, Jason kidd
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  Speaker 1: Making made an All Star Game at thirty five and
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  Speaker 1: thirty six. But a lot of players that I grew
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  Speaker 1: up loving by the age of thirty five thirty six,
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  Speaker 1: we were looking at them like, oh man, oh man,
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  Speaker 1: it might be time to stop blaxing them up. So
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  Speaker 1: I just don't know what happens with Jimmy Butler. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like we're gonna get some more slops soon, some
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  Speaker 1: more rumors about Jimmy, and I don't think it'll ever
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  Speaker 1: really stop, But I do want to say this before
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  Speaker 1: I get out of here. I think ring culture has
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  Speaker 1: destroyed the mind of like seventy percent of NBA fandom,
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  Speaker 1: Like seventy percent of NBA fandom has just the brain
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  Speaker 1: has just got so smooth.
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  Speaker 2: Because of ring culture.
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  Speaker 1: Bro. So a couple of days back, I've made this
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  Speaker 1: tweet when when shap Saranya had his whole thing saying
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  Speaker 1: that Jimmy Butler would prefer Trey Yadyadada, I said, how
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  Speaker 1: will Jimmy Butler he'd ever be remembered? And while I
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people would agree, we got like Swiper,
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  Speaker 1: a better player they've had since bron took them to
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  Speaker 1: two finals with underwomen roster and the lee coaching. While
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  Speaker 1: four thousand percent four thousand people agree with that, I
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  Speaker 1: definitely don't have to send no negative energy to nobody. There
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  Speaker 1: are a lot of people that looked at this Jimmy
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  Speaker 1: Butler era in Miami and felt like it was underwhelming
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  Speaker 1: because he didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Win a ring. Are y'all are y'all serious? Bro, I.
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  Speaker 1: Never I will never understand it. I don't even know
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  Speaker 1: where ring coacher became the thing that like, we can't
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  Speaker 1: appreciate a great stance of basketball because a person didn't
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  Speaker 1: raise Ilario b It has never made sense to me.
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  Speaker 1: Basketball is a team sport with the fifteen players that
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  Speaker 1: suiting up, and then the seven coaches and then the
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  Speaker 1: people in the front office. You know how hard it
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  Speaker 1: is to win according to Basketball Reference game score Tool,
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  Speaker 1: which is this is not a perfect science, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan of games score Tool, but
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  Speaker 1: it we'll talk about it for today's case. Butler is
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  Speaker 1: already responsible. Who's seven of the ten best playoff outings
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  Speaker 1: in Miami Heat franchise history. Reminder, the Miami Heat had
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  Speaker 1: fucking Lebron James on his team for four years and
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  Speaker 1: Dwayne Wade on his team for fifteen. Jimmy Butler has
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  Speaker 1: seven of the ten best performances by a Miami Heat
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  Speaker 1: playoff performer. Game six of the Conference Finals forty seven
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  Speaker 1: to nine and eight four steals, Game three of the
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  Speaker 1: NBA Finals forty eleven and thirteen, Game five thirty five,
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  Speaker 1: twelve and eleven when this brother bent over the stanchion
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  Speaker 1: because he was so tired. That was real.
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  Speaker 2: He was doing everything.
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  Speaker 1: And last reminder, there's only six one to eight upsets
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  Speaker 1: in the history of basketball and Damon, I'm not counting
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  Speaker 1: one of them because Darreck rose towards ACL Jimmy Butler
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  Speaker 1: in this series, game five or game four of this series,
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler did this fifty six. Matter of fact, that's
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  Speaker 1: yere on. You gotta read fifty six and what did
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  Speaker 1: he do next game?
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  Speaker 2: Home, I'll show you what he did next game. I'll
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  Speaker 2: show you what he did next game. He had forty
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  Speaker 2: two in the closing out? Are we being real?
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  Speaker 1: One of the best individual playoff performers of our lifetime?
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  Speaker 1: And because he doesn't have a ring, there's a percentage
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  Speaker 1: of NBA fandom that won't respect this tenure with the
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  Speaker 1: Miami Heat, or maybe won't respect his career as a
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  Speaker 1: whole because he has zero NBA championships, when the reality
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  Speaker 1: is Jimmy Butler is a fucking dog.